quick look: Dual band FPV antenna (2.4GHz and 5.GHz)

[@nqueh]

we where just talking about this antenna in a FPV group here un México, your vídeo is going to help alot. Thank you!

[@davidringler7131]

Bruce may GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR WIFE! Things will turn around!

[@davidringler7131]

I truly feel sorry for you if that is how you feel! I will pray for you too,GOD Bless

[@devbb5330]

Your video's have really helped bring me into this hobby, I very much appreciate the time and effort you've put into your videos. Thanks so much. Good luck for the future, I hope things take a turn for the better.

[@Dobemandan]

Please don't go!!!!! Your videos are the ones I look forward to the most!!!

[@tma450]

Going to miss the reviews. So much great information

[@elescuadrone3442]

I was desolated after watching the bad news video Bruce...your channel is a lighthouse of knowledge for all of us that are into the hobby. I can only hope for a better situation for you in the future.

[@paulmason6847]

Hi Bruce, i think your channel is great, just flew my ZMR250 ( low cost drone build ) for the first time today. I would not have even tried to build one without your series, keep up the good work and i hope all gets sorted out and you can fly again soon. Paul.

[@zeldajunkielol2]

Great video, I could watch you talk about antennas and RF all day! I can sort of tell just by looking at the thing that it won't work well because 2.4 and 5GHz use different size antennas.

[@evertonedwards4248]

Hey Bruce, just to let you know...every time I am about to buy a new produst, I always checkin with what you have to say. you are the best

[@garylowe8601]

Bruce, do you remember the video you did a good few months ago now about old computer tech? When you stop doing the rc review stuff will you do more of them videos? I remember you saying you may if people want them. I enjoyed it a lot.

[@rguptaca]

Why aren't you providing a donation link in the description? Many people will donate while they think of it but not go looking for how to do it.

[@TheRCAddict]

Nice video Bruce :) I just bought some Fat Shark 5.8 for my mini quad, hope they work well as they cost me $40 ;)

[@leighfpvk8176]

"Just used the plastic" Sums up some of the stuff I have bought in the past too!

[@DenysSene]

dual band antennas always look like magic to me =)

[@TheEPROM9]

I was expecting to see two antennas in there. Looks a little bodge like I had made it at home.

[@shoominati23]

Hey Bruce, I'm trying to do a 10 km FPV flight with a 1/4 scale ARF plane with a 28cc gasoline engine. I have been looking at one of the big dome style antennas (about the size of a stack of 5 CD's) and a 2.0 watt amplifier. (admittedly it's what someone else used and had success with) But I was just wondering what your take is on the different frequencies? i.e. do you get better range comparing 900mhz to 2.4 to 5.8 per m/w you put in the system? are more line of sight dependant than others?

[@xjet]

+shoominati23 To be honest... I really wouldn't recommend a 10Km flight with a gas-powered model. Although I have my reservations about the over-regulation associated with FPV flying, there are *many* extra factors involved with BVLOS FPV operations, especially with something that could pose a very real threat to person or property -- such as an IC engine turning a large flesh-cleaving prop :-) However, if you want long-range video then you'll almost certainly have to opt for a lower-frequency and 1280MHz is widely regarded as the best option for long-range FPV. higher frequencies (such as 5.8GHz) will give you plenty of range under ideal circumstances but that generally involves a line-of-sight trajectory, which isn't possible with long-range unless you fly at a significant altitude (thus making you a threat to full-sized aircraft). I'm a strong advocate for creating areas where people can safely and legally fly long-range and/or high altitude FPV by way of excluding full-sized aircraft but sadly, the aviation administrators (despite their claims to be pro-safety) seem to be against such an initiative. Fly safe!

[@camofpv]

oh man, one advice. before you actually do your 10km flight you need to read read read. the lower the frequency the better penetration you have and distance as well, but there is a lot more to it. A LOT. Take care. also I think that Bruce have already made a video on that subject.

[@shoominati23]

Yeah, it would be FAR out in the country where there is flat terrain as far as the eye can see, the odd hill and not much traffic - of any sort ;) I'm sorry, I must have missed that particular video

[@chrisbewrx]

+shoominati23 If you plan a long range flight in the country, make sure you check your flight path and attempt to get permission from the landowners of any property you fly over. I'm not sure of your country of origin, but I'm guessing a flight without permission would be illegal? I personally don't see the "thrill" of long range flights, you end up with a bunch of boring footage, that most people speed up on KZbin.. I've been out to 2km and I still cut portions of the footage to speed it up lol. What I would like to see would be a close range big gasser pulling some cool stunts and a view from a very detailed cockpit.

[@shoominati23]

I mean far enough out in the country that I'd only be flying over crown land, no farms to speak of ;) and no having to ask permission to come on a property to retrieve the plane if something were to go wrong ;) remember, there is a lot of barren desert in Australia..

[@Blisoft]

Bruce, when you buy a set of 5.8Ghz antennas you generally get a 3 & a 4 lobe arrangement marked TX & RX respectively. Why is this? Why not use 4 lobe for both TX & RX? Hope you can shed some light on the subject.. Brett

[@andrewmcneil]

Bruce don't know if you have got these of a third party and been misdescribed but the company that makes them does not claim they are circular polarized that maybe why it had no reference to it on the housing. It is just a bowtie and a dog leg dipole.

[@PotRacer]

Open the dutch antennas please! I Would Love to know how they can make such a small 5.8 antenna!

[@AmisCorolla]

Did you ever test this? i did try to find, but i did not.

[@Karanar]

what norwegian antennas are you talking about? I live there, so that is good information to me :)

[@JosephDawson]

When you do your next set of tests... how about adding some tests with just standard crap rubber dipole that we get for free with everything. What sort of range do they get on the ground compared to everything else.

[@hothothotmale]

Bruce, love your vids from Sydney Aus. Any chance you can set up a crowd sourcing account to receive funds from those wishing to pay for the services you provide to viewers?

[@davidringler7131]

Bruce as far as running lipos in series or par can you get the same effect with a wireharness hooking them up one way or the other? I guess what I am asking instead of soldering the 2 batts together can I just make a harness to do the samething or will the harness defeat the whole purpose!

[@recommit]

I would love you to provide a breakdown in the differences between the cheap Chinese antennas and the quality antennas so the non electronic engineer peoples can see and differentiate between them. What makes a good design? What makes a poor design? What makes it work? & not just how the frequency works but the antenna itself. PLEASE.

[@cstangeland0001000]

Sadly one of the best antennas I have found yet. I tried expensive ones that are barely flyable. These are cheap and just work.

[@pokies100]

Pointing up and pointing down on the blade ends is designed that way to distribute the wave.

[@sputniksam]

Hi Bruce. A very interesting antenna. I expect the reason they've bent the two sides of the 2.4GHz antenna the way they have is so the VSWR is acceptable for the two bands and to reduce the interaction between the two antennae. However I doubt the Impedance (Z) will be 50Ohm and the Reactance (X) will be quite high resulting in very poor efficiency. As Scotty on the Enterprise once said " Ya can nay change the laws of Physics, Captain" Regards Nidge

[@NickoFishing]

wow its not pretty in there and looks like its epoxyed to the coax so cant even salvage the dome. btw have you tested the aomway antennas?

[@tmy158]

when will the rc timer hex vid be coming

[@xjet]

+tmy158 The assembly is mostly done. All the flight test vids will be done on the same day to keep costs down. Just have to organize some fine weather, a spotter and a camera-person to all arrive at the same place at the same time :-)

[@tmy158]

Cool i'm looking forward to it. Because rc model reviews is not going to continue would you consider writing reviews on a forum because i don't know what to do if there are no good rc reviews from a person that knows as mush as you. I hope to visit New Zealand one day an maybe have a fly with you. Thanks for the great work bruce

[@xjet]

+tmy158 I'd love to fly with you man. Unfortunately, my dream of creating a model park where people can come from all over the world to fly and enjoy the hobby looks to be sunk due to the rather conservative thinking of the local council here. What a shame... Never mind. If you're ever in this part of the world then please look me up -- there'll always be a warm welcome waiting.

[@franklee90]

Hi Bruce Nice videos.

[@hothothotmale]

Where would the RC world be without Bruceyyyyyy,

[@WarblesOnALot]

G'day, Yay Team ! An excellent Video olde mate... I agree with the bloke who told you to set up a Patreon Account, pay whatever the Kiwi Tax happens to be, and see what happyninks...; it looks to be presenting a realistically better set of outcomes than any of your other Outcomes..., as seen from under a Gumtree, with Swamp Wallabies eating out of my hand... ;-p Ciao !

[@manvstransmitter5424]

another grate vid mate il watch every vid you put up xjet or here shame on our gov/nzmf

[@jc-dv4zk]

What kind of magic ? 4 leaf looks like possibly folded not sure thumbs up breaking barriers again your correct I'm gonna send $ please don't stop reviews learned so much

[@stephengloor8451]

Hi Bruce - think you have more signatures on the petition than the entire MFNZ membership. I get it about the support network you have built up around the area you live. Leaving that would be daunting. The other idea would be to make it a fly-in fly-out job that we in WA have half the working population doing. Open the Patreon account that several people have suggested and setup somewhere else as remote worker on say 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. Might allow you to fly in one of the districts that are model friendly. In Western Australia it seems that at least half the working population are remote workers so it does not seem as strange here however it may be something you have not thought of as it is probably unusual for NZ. Having said that the electrician on a rig off Barrow Island lived in NZ and commuted every month.

[@TheDarkPixel]

Bruce, please take the advice of the many people dotted all over the world who have big love and respect for you, and SET UP A DARN PATREON ACCOUNT ALREADY!! Even if the tax man gets his hands on some, or all of it - it's still gonna help you out, right? :)

[@MantelisB]

+The Dark Pixel As this is the first comment I see below the video, would like to add a link for people - www.change.org/p/model-flying-new-zealand-let-bruce-simpson-fly-r-c-again - to support Bruce.

[@zakovich]

+The Dark Pixel I think Bruce's MAIN issue isnt financial ... he'll still be working on xjet channel, the major issue is that he can't maintain RCModelReviews without being able to FLY ... help by signing this petition www.change.org/p/model-flying-new-zealand-let-bruce-simpson-fly-r-c-again

[@Najvalsa]

5.GHz :)

[@winstonsmith478]

Bruce, since you can't fly and are very knowledgeable on electronics, have you considered doing a hobby robotics, ground/water R/C vehicle channel? You can't do R/C TX at the airfield, but you could do that at home. Your lab at the airfield could serve as the robotics lab and weekly news studio. Maybe add some 3D printing content, too, with the emphasis on robotic/RC parts made with 3D printers, since 3D printers have become very popular as they decrease in price. Your talented delivery style is much better and more entertaining than that found on most other channels. If you can't get a small 3D printer for free to do a review, here's a very clever and very inexpensive new design that I definitely plan to buy when they become available: www.kickstarter.com/projects/tiko3d/tiko-the-unibody-3d-printer/description tiko3d.com/

[@schmudge]

Move to the OUTBACKs of Oz and fly till your Lipos smoke. Theres bugger all to bug you out there, err maybe the odd inscet or small harmless snake but the weather is better than here. With your background it would be easy. Also getting stuff from china would be easier too. (I'm onto week 15 waiting for my stuff to arrive, stuck in Oz somewhere probably, lol ) Life is too short and boring to stay in one village. What every you do, you will make it with your fans help thats for sure.

[@Stambo59]

+Wyatt Earp I smell a troll account.

[@andrewjamez]

I had one of these, my home made cloverleaf antenna with a broken clover worked heaps better

[@superdau]

+Wyatt Earp Trolling won't work if you disable replies.

[@PDG005]

Your video's are great Bruce I lookout for new one's every other day... MFNZ SWDC and CAA surely to God you can see what this man is doing? I cannot see anything he has done that is wrong, apart from calling you Grumpy old men. Stop this utter crap and give him his wings back!!!! Whats next on your list? stealing sweets from children while you laugh and pat yourself on the back telling you small minded friends how good you are? MFNZ you should be ashamed of what you are doing.

[@jkflorida]

Ibcrazy made a video about this antenna almost a year ago. The antenna is complete junk!

[@tedtoez76]

there are 99,000 subscribers on this channel ,,pass the link no i posted,,

[@shoominati23]

How dare those pricks from MFNZ go and say you're a cowboy! I've not seen the guy with the loud mouth nor any other of the members come out and try to give anybody any help or post any advice anywhere

[@LucaOnida]

Sign the petition here: www.change.org/p/model-flying-new-zealand-let-bruce-simpson-fly-r-c-again

[@agentbertram4769]

I like the idea but quality will out. A poorly polished poop is still a poop.

[@conrad5551]

Check out Wyatt Earp ,... maybe you should start up a channel instead of the negativity..Just remember Earp... Talk Is Cheap..

[@revparsons3tl]

thay are crap ive had them on 2.4 about £8 for 2 on banggood etc etc