Quick Tip 288 - Troublesome Tangents

[@اجنحةالملائكة-ض3ق]

As professional you are , as beautifully & simple you explain painting techniques . Thank you Dianne 🥰

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You are so welcome

[@InLawsAttic]

Very helpful! Thank you!! Needed this to look for “uncomfortable” spots in my compositions. I’m actually a professional musician, learning painting & art and I see so much related to music. You are a wonderful teacher. ❤

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

So many of the principles for becoming a musician are the same for becoming a painter. Same process, different mode. Enjoy the journey!

[@harrymonk6]

U r definitely the best and most informative on KZbin 👍

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks.

[@elanamarino2624]

@@IntheStudioArtInstruction can you talk about (the corners of canvas) I see many artists paint around the edges, I've read an artist refer to this area as the "no fly zone"...so many painters are doing this...they also are painting the foreground along with sides of canvas with dark paint. .seeing mostly black ...thank you.

[@sallysmiles6088]

I have noticed some of those scenarios, but I didn't know that they had a name. Ppl say experience is the best teacher, I say an experienced teacher is a lifesaver for a student. Thank you very much.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Good point. One downside of being self-taught is that one has to know what to teach one's self. That's where a teaching comes in mighty handy.

[@Nodsaibot]

If talking about Drawings: Tangents are Objects "touching" eachother or objects touching the edge of the page, also 2 objects accidentally forming a 90 degree angle can sometimes be referred as tangents

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks for adding that.

[@Nodsaibot]

@@IntheStudioArtInstruction Just a summary for the people in the comments, Thank you for making great videos!

[@mariaanduplooy9716]

Thank you for explaining it so well! I like to paint urban scenes and always get myself trapped in a corner or having shapes share edges - now I understand why it looks uncomfortable and how to deal with it.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Wonderful!

[@elanamarino2624]

Your so full of knowledge, thank you for sharing...I have all of Helen's books and Dvds...she left behind so much valuable information...I watched your older video of tangents...and have since critiqued many KZbin artists....so many don't know about tangents...

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks. Helen was, indeed, a gem. I am often appalled at what folks are not being taught in the name of teaching painting.

[@watercolourkeyes]

Thank you so much Dianne for yet another fabulous lesson. I recently received my copy of your book “Finding Freedom to Create” and I am just starting my second time through it (not because its unclear but because it’s so jam packed with such wonderful lessons of deep interest and clear and inspiring tips). I can’t thank you enough for how generously you share of your talents. I’d also like to take this opportunity to thank you for your Saturday lessons via email. I enjoy them so much, and often get a whole weeks worth of practice exercises out of them. Thank you, sincerely.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thank you, Liana, and especially for mentioning my book.

[@alanclarke5339]

Thank you Dianne for these quick tips , you are a fountain of knowledge x

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks, Alan.

[@claychick100]

You are an amazing teacher. I am learning so much from you that I never thought of...such as tangents. Thanks so much for sharing your vast knowledge.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You are so welcome! It's a pleasure to do these.

[@joanistotler8804]

A little social distancing with those trees and you're golden! :O))))

[@joanistotler8804]

@@Genesis_3v15 Right!! Haha - good one!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

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[@ninaphatak1987]

Thank you very much for this beautiful explanation .🙏

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You're most welcome.

[@ssstults999]

Such an awesome teacher! Very thorough and also pleasant. Thank you again for your time and effort.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You're very welcome!

[@karenheston3115]

Very clear teaching. 😊

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thank you! 🙂

[@lunadargent5292]

I’ve heard the term tangent but I never knew what it was so thank you very much for an excellent explanation

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure.

[@Beaulini]

All good points about tangents. Thank you for this topic.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure!

[@elainevechorik2171]

Concise and to the point! Thanks!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure.

[@shirleyandrews1152]

You always have great info. Thank you🥰

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks for watching!

[@FHBart]

Thank you so much maam❤️ very nice you are a lagend in our little world of art ❤️

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure, and Thanks.

[@ginger9898]

Hi Dianne, thank you for your wonder video's, I learn so much. I am watching QT 198 and hear you speaking of warm and cool colors, I have heard you mention this many times and know that it is the difference between more blue or more yellow hues. What puzzles me is that I can not see the difference in the studies that you are painting. Would you have any suggestions?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Training yourself to see warm and cool in colors is very much like training yourself to hear one musical note from another. One key is that colors containing more red or yellow lean warm and those containing more blue lean cool. See Quick Tip 265.

[@henriquejanuario881]

Great class! Thanks for sharing!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure!

[@johngraham4053]

Dianne you do the tips with such enthusiasm and inspiration. I know what you mean its so very bloody, %$£!@&% when you see theses things lol. Enjoyed that thanks

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks!

[@birgitblume4980]

That's super helpful! Thank you!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure.

[@211kmeyer]

Do you ever use dynamic symmetry? If so, can you show some examples? I’m confused about how to use it in different compositions and different size canvases.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Katherine, dynamic symmetry is something I've given a great deal of study to and contemplation about. From the viewpoint of diagonal movement, it has influenced by work, but to be a strict adherent to the principle seems a bit dogmatic to me. Like all compositional principles, it is worth studying and contemplating. To see some examples and perhaps get some clarity go to photographycourse.net/dynamic-symmetry/

[@delmar5652]

Awesome tips, thank you 😊❤️

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure.

[@DS40764]

Interesting composition subject. I was just thinking about that this morning; how we must have many good elements to a painting to make it successful: good composition, values, etc. Thank you, I always learn so much from you. If there is something wrong in a painting, even if everything else is right, it isn't successful. In any painting is it smart to determine the composition first in the first step,like before color selection,etc?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Deborah, I see composition different for most artists who teach: I see the process as a composing process from beginning to end. Initially we can determine the compositional structure, but everything brushstroke we make is an act of composing and will effect the entire painting. My approach is to first determine the pattern of light and shadow--that is the most influential compositional structure. Next is to --within the light and shadow pattern ; determine the movement and kind of balance. All that is basic structure. Then how we select and place our shapes is decided by those principles.

[@KathyBrooksArt]

Most helpful, thank you!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You're welcome!

[@salliewhitney5889]

So helpful! Thank you

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You're so welcome!

[@linda7345n]

That was very interesting and something I had never considered --taking poetic license and adjusting the top of a tree, etc. Thanks, Dianne! I do have a question, completely off the subject, that I was thinking about last night. I bought 2 splined canvases from Blick and I don't know why...lol Is there any reason to buy splined over stapled?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Linda, there are those that will disagree with me, but I don't find any advantage of one over the other. Some think a splined canvas is more aesthetic for gallery wrap (frameless) presentation. But a canvas properly stretched, stapled on the back rather than the sides is just as aesthetically appealing. So I think it's just individual preference.

[@linda7345n]

@@IntheStudioArtInstruction Thank you, Dianne! Another mystery explained.

[@Deadeye901]

Re: Helen Van Wyke. Mississippi Public Broadcasting used to run her shows every Saturday afternoon. I still have some on VHS tape. She was amazing to watch, but, you explain things better. Do you think you'll do "almost" complete paintings like she used to do?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Billy, probably not, since my emphasis here is to show single concepts rather than do demos. My tutorials available on diannemize.com do take paintings (as studies) to near completion, kinda like Helen did.

[@chayita7]

But what about that plein air video we have been waiting for? Could you show the beginning-- how to plan it according to the surroundings and how to do the initial stages? Thanks.@@IntheStudioArtInstruction

[@cristinadeoliveira4280]

Great!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks.

[@ruthmoore1448]

Thank you!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You bet!

[@aquamarinefox8207]

Would you mind going over how to brighten red on dark colors. I know you would use a mixture of lighter colors and glaze with red but it would be nice to see a demo of it. Thanks!

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

There are principles that apply to all colors for enabling brightness. Value contrast is one, saturation contrast and hue contrast are two more. For example, If a fully saturated light red, such as cadmium red light or cadmium scarlet is surrounded by a dark, lower saturated green, the hue is contrasted because red & green are compliments, the value is contrasted as light against dark, and the saturation is contrasted with red being fully saturated and the green being lower. Let me know if this helps.

[@lorriestolt3761]

I have a question about discarding oil paint , paper towels with thinner and paint. How do we protect our environment?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You follow all the protocols for environmental protection.

[@sujanithtottempudi2991]

My question might be Irrelevant here. Dianne....I was reading the safety data sheet of gamsol....it's highly toxic when you inhale which is sure when its open to you while painting...please comment. What is your opinion on using only either poppy oil or linseed oil for thinning the oil paint? What is your opinion about water mixable oil paints?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

The safe way to use any solvent is good ventilation. Poppy seed and linseed oils are mediums rather than solvents. If the paint needs to be thinned, either of these or any professional painting medium works. Solvent should not be added to thin paint unless it is the initial lay-in of the composition because solvents weaken the structure of the paint. Back to Gamsol being toxic--The toxicity warnings are against swallowing it or excessive inhaling of it. When used in an area with adequate ventilation, you need not worry.

[@sujanithtottempudi2991]

@@IntheStudioArtInstruction 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@TheLeahsKitchen]

thank you, that was very helpful

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You're welcome!

[@beyzaerbil9503]

Thank you so much 💜✨

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

You are so welcome

[@joycesnodgrass7068]

Thank you💛

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

My pleasure.

[@sujanithtottempudi2991]

Does poppy oil alone okay to thin down paint?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Only if you want to retard the drying. Poppy seed oil is slow drying.

[@sujanithtottempudi2991]

I saw turpenoid natural to clean brushes and also thin down paint....it's plant based nontoxic.whats your experience?

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

I would not add turpenoid natural to paint.

[@sujanithtottempudi2991]

@@IntheStudioArtInstruction 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@sujanithtottempudi2991]

My questions here is based on your previous videos of thinning oil paint

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

I hope I answered it in your initial question.

[@teongbengngo3956]

👍👍

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

Thanks.

[@harrymonk6]

What does having tantrums got to do with ducks

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

They both float.

[@elanamarino2624]

Another topic. .so many paint clouds and mountains not paying attention to the shapes...the result appears as faces and such.

[@IntheStudioArtInstruction]

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