What is a Tangent? (in art)

[@alyciaward2243]

This was something I'd noticed on my own before but I never was able to pick out why it was making my compositions look worse. I just knew "this'll look better if I put that further over." It's so nice to have a technical explanation for it thank you!

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

It's something I noticed on my own while drawing that makes the real world uglier to me. Look around you and I bet you can easily find 5 or 6 "stolen tangents" from where you're sitting, all making things look misshapen if you close one eye to flatten your depth perception. Eclipses are cool though.

[@RossDraws]

WHAT IS A TANGENT

[@ahmedshaikh7662]

hahahha

[@Yasumora]

Lol

[@jasp9661]

You forgot the question mark

[@Johanyohann]

I don't get it :((

[@ThatPash]

Hi Ross!

[@intheotherworld.8713]

Ahh, I've been trying to avoid these kinds of things in my work for years because I never thought it looked right! I never knew it had a name!! I have learned.

[@AmanteANIMALS]

"I like things that look flat!" You better be talking about me

[@vocaloidsfan]

Just wanted to provide some opinions on the other side of graphic design; Tangents, especially Kissing, Stolen and Parallel are very popular and common in Typography layouts or in Graphic design styles. Example: “The Global Style,” where typography lines up neatly with each other, creating parallel tangents and even stolen tangents. Tangents are not inherently bad, it’s just that sometimes they create unwanted “tension.” Imagine two circles kissing each other: the tension would be in the part where they kiss. But that’s not a bad thing-the tension can become a conscious choice. ^^ The choice can be that you wanted the attention to be the kiss between the two circles. It’s all about design hierarchy!

[@R.K.994]

Oooo im gonna remember this as well as the video

[@whenny101]

today was terrible but now is good, thank you daddy sinix

[@TheMrKelloggs]

Aphelion09 daddy sinix

[@whenny101]

hell ye

[@whenny101]

Hobo Kid the whole family is happy

[@WangleLine]

@@whenny101 :)

[@noirblanche3729]

I first discovered Sycra, then Ahmed Adoori, then Sinix! Another new fave digital art artist! He is so inspiring !

[@itch433]

this sheds some light at some of my art instincts, good video. Never realised that the rule is so relatively simple. Though, I was expecting to also hear about cases when tangents actually complement the art. I can see it in Picasso's art, ancient egypt style, some modern cartoon's design, etc.

[@GlebAlexandrov]

Extremely useful!

[@Beryesa.]

Oh wow :D

[@someguyonthenet2146]

Gleb from blender community!!!!

[@exyl_sounds]

sheeesh

[@artaizen1613]

Now I can see why some people say that analytical - organized people tends to be unartistic and artistic people tends to be more messy, their definition of tangent is different in their mind. Organised people see tangents are good, it lines up perfectly, makes more compact thing, artistic people see tangent bad, it makes your art look flat. Just my random 2 cent.

[@MH-lr6ue]

this is one of the most important videos from sinix....tangents make sinix angry lol.

[@agreatbigart4194]

Wow! I have always been extremely bothered and meticulous about lines and shapes aligning too much, but I have never known it was an actual thing with a name... The more ya know! Like not even just art. My OCD intensifies the amount that I notice it in everyday things, like aligning a rug on a floor, the placement of the mouse pointer on a computer screen, etc. And at the end when you were purposely creating tangents, my brain was physically cringing haha

[@adelarscheidt]

Dude, you're the best. You really read our comments, don't you? Lemme tell you, Sinix, your channel is the best thing that has happened to my art lately

[@karlfestersen]

incedibly helpful video, thanx for massively improving my art so far.

[@shokurei]

I clicked so quickly, you helped me a lot in your past videos, thank you.

[@DaveConrey]

Although tangents tend to make drawing and paintings flat, in graphic design, a grid based system relies on certain tangents for optimizing visual interest and flow of content across the page. When you were placing the VSB on the illustration, their placement became the essential element on the page, making the illustration take a secondary position in the hierarchy. The way you were moving the letters around the illustration, you were making bad design decisions based on what you saw as the importance of the illustration, but it should have been the other way around.

[@FantasticOtto]

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure. The thumbnail may not be appealing to an illustrator, but it does contain graphic design elements that resonate with “good tangent” ideas. Think David Carson styled design, and it’s not that far off.

[@postplays]

Thank you for these videos, Sinix. Your videos on graphic design elements have, by far, the most helpful to me. Your video on graffiti is still one of the most eye-opening videos I've seen from you.

[@handarule]

Design-side of me: hmmm, yes, tangents, don't over align Obsessive-side of me: R I G H T A N G L E S

[@Gdquest]

Great tutorial to break any confusion on the topic. The words you chose, I've never heard another artist use them, but they make sense. Do you come up with your own expressions for all kinds of concepts? Thanks a lot anyway, I'm saving it as a reference for future videos about level design!

[@jumbocube]

hello GDQuest :D

[@GlobalOrbital]

Sinix, the good news about terrible Tangents is that we're in the compositional phase of design drawing and out of the stick figures and random doodles level, Light bulb ! thank's again

[@nostos_]

>We can call this either a stolen tangent or shared tangent based on your political beliefs LMAO

[@waazup2]

This seems to contradict with the graphic design principle of alignment, does it not? When used properly, tangents used for alignment can convey clarity and order.

[@sinixdesign]

I wouldn't say contradict. Tangents and alignment are uniting forces. Uniting things can be very important, but this video is all about avoiding the accidental uniting of separate objects.

[@larkwong7925]

Sinix Design nice reply sinix

[@FindingYaya]

Your videos are changing my life

[@asfallleaves]

Your examples are EXEMPLARY!

[@whatyousee3225]

i guess every day you learn a new thing! i heard about tangents before, but definitely not in art, so basically bad tangent is equal to not being able to read the silhouette? i will definitely go more in depth and try to read more about tangent now!! thank you so so much Sinix you're the best

[@OreLye]

I remember when we were kids and draw an horizontal line for the floor and EVERYTHING would be placed on it :p

[@briegookin2112]

omg. more perceivable logic in art. THANK you. I use this in photography too!

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

Very articulate and easy to understand. Well done.

[@yezzzsir]

I think I got the idea from the last video, but this one really helped me get a grip on the whole concept. Thanks Sinix.

[@optimusslime6795]

I HAD NO IDEA! that's why everyone always says my drawings are flat but they could never tell me why!

[@AlexLusth]

Those tangents examples actually hurt to watch xD you forgot one tangent though, Frame/edge tangent - when things tangent the edge of the canvas.

[@MMM1MM]

My art teacher taught me this a few years ago! Great video

[@omargodran6469]

critical..........that was really good and now i understand how shod i place the element of my designs thank u

[@GatsuRage]

I would really really want to see some actual paintings critiques with this subject as main focus of it. Tho I did understood the whole explanation of it I would've of liked see more examples in actual pieces of artworks. Regardless, thanks for the video!

[@YVZSTUDIOS]

That was very interesting! :D It's very confusing when you're in the middle of a drawing and suddenly a tengent appears

[@omairjamal3027]

Hi Sinix. This is one of my fav videos on your channel :) Helped me a lot. Especially showing how all the diff tangents are misplaced. Thx Professor! Btw you almost have 100K subscribers (99,663 at the time of this comment), you'll be joining Ahmed and Ross soon!! Congratulations!!

[@ahmedyusuf1000]

i have always avoided these subconciously, i didn't know it can be a real problem

[@KariPurpleField]

thank u so much .... I didn't realize the horrible mistakes I've been making till now ... I have a question .. dose the stolen tangent look bad when m creating flat design ??? I mean is it me or when u intentionally tried to make bad tangents it looked appealing as a flat design

[@MirkoFailoniArtz]

The "tortoise part" with tangents was a pain to me xD Keep pushing, you rock man.

[@IzarraSTL]

I needed this ! It's really instructive, but god... To chase tangent in detailed drawings already gives me headaches LOL. Anyway I'll fight this ! Thank you for this awesome explaination. :D I suscribe !

[@Cassie_Lyn]

Ty for this.... I actually asked what this was in your last video!

[@jesusgerardoGM]

i kinda like tangents if they have rythm ,and i waa ok with most tangents you showed but then you proved me wrong by making them better

[@ciscoponch67]

Thanks for going on a tangent, Sinix! You rock! Screw you geometry!

[@cooperman.incstudios4060]

but I'm guessing that with a lot of care you could probably use tangents in some specific scenarios to add some more flow to a painting, make the eye follow a path by connecting shapes at specific points.

[@MrRawrSticks]

I LOVE SINIX REEEEEEE

[@takanuvamasteroftime7680]

Thank you for this video I was wondering about this!

[@Yotrymp]

TWO. VIDEOS. A WEEK?! I will be happy with one a week if that's not always possible.

[@standard_nova4269]

Am I the only one that also finds tangents weirdly satisfying? Like the pieces of a puzzle fitting together. XD

[@fanimeproductionst.v.3735]

Yes

[@Qmontun]

This video was great but i think he missed the mark at the end since i believe graphic design required you to use tangen as much as possible

[@A.K.Valentine]

I loved the video, it was really helpful but I would have liked you to show more examples of what 'to do,' rather than what 'not to do.'

[@FrameCycler]

I'm not sure why I laughted so much at "It's not really a logo, its just letters". great video thanks Sinix.

[@keiracopeland4721]

I still don't understand completely, but this has certainly helped! I think the reason it doesn't help is because my brain is already hard wired to avoid tangents, so I just don't see the point, or something along those lines. (Point, lines, ha) Thank you!

[@kristophernimchan7699]

oh magurd. he finally did it!

[@alessandrodavoli9016]

Thanks! Illuminating... :)

[@_MysterySock]

I love your humor, please keep it up! lol

[@justadreemurr]

i hate this video it was so painful to watch but i also appreciate this video so much it helped me understand the tangent lines and why they could be bad and also how to hopefully avoid my own tangents 😭bc these were PAINFUL KJNWKDSJH saving this video XD

[@hasslichesentcheee1815]

Very very great... thanks sinix :D

[@Argadeux]

Good video 👍🏼

[@djduck33]

does this mean your avatars face upper line has a pretty annoying tangent against the upper line of the frame?

[@glenlyglenlyglenly]

the force awakens movie poster has an ugly tangent between kylo's lightsaber and rey's staff that always bugged me but no one else seemed to notice.

[@LoryskaEntertainment]

Paul Sihotang Because it was done on purpose to be a dumb symbol for Kylo and Rey’s poorly made characters. The worst tangent is between Kylo’s saber and BB-8’s head

[@yevmann]

Another great video

[@ShadowSnake141]

This is both hilarious and informative!

[@katrenus2234]

oh no,after this video i see ALL fail tangents and its really annoying :D thank you for evolution in my art!)

[@DaisyFarm_]

-I actually liked the thumbnail-

[@VishalNamani]

will you do a part 2 of glitch art?

[@ellepelle2379]

9.:24 I really love that painting! Is there any chance you could link it so that I could use it as a wallpaper? Thanks.

[@shmuelisrl]

I think all the tangents in the thumbnail were really nice and helped blend the text and the background (/tie them together). it mafe me click on the video, so don't put down dem tangents

[@fraicheness]

Great video!

[@knifedrowns8272]

STOP CREATING ALL THESE TANGENTS FOR EDUCATING DEMONSTRATION IT HURTS MY EYES

[@LaSangriaSolitaria]

WE NEED THE PAIN, WE NEED THE PAIN TO LEEAAARRNNNN!!! *cries*

[@SercanSalkir]

"artist must suffer for the art. thats why its called pain-ting." :D

[@bossbabypaints]

@@SercanSalkir :'D

[@MWFreerun]

great, now I want a sinix poster...

[@YoManBroh]

Hello, Sinix. Are there any situations where these bad tangents turn out to be beneficial to the overall image? As far as i can remember, there were always some exceptions to the rules in art.

[@zhulikkulik]

I guess they can be beneficial when you are making a video about avoiding tangents :DDDD

[@TheMrKelloggs]

is it bad that I didn't see anything wrong with the thumbnail...

[@whatyousee3225]

nope, but think of it like this: imagine all the stuff in the thumbnail painted with a black color, no details nothing is clear everything looks like a shadow, at that point you won't be able to tell where is this and where is that you know? i hope that make sense!

[@Drop3dlvl3]

When doing graphics contrast is more important than the way shapes are placed because graphics are usually flat and it can be a technique or an effect that you purposefully use for composition. When painting or drawing its different because you are trying to imply depth in the image so having tangents is undesirable. The only thing that could be detrimental is that your image may imply a meaning that maybe you are not aware of.

[@sert87]

Its just graphic design - nothing wrong there. You can see these kinda tangents in logo shapes all the time.

[@sert87]

Tangent lines can also create good rhythms / relationships in composition if you know what you're doing.

[@WadWizard]

Technically there was nothing wrong with the thumbnail, as he made it with the intention of making tagents

[@Kman6849]

But how can you actually make tangent works maybe something like cubism?

[@sealbatross]

Tangent talent

[@shereenty]

love it thanks alot

[@TheKenttt]

A terrible thumbnail that catches the viewer's eye is not really a terrible thumbnail :)

[@nafzee]

nice video :) what program are you using to draw with? the snapping of the lines seems helpful for writing

[@WadWizard]

Usually uses corel painter

[@nafzee]

thanks do u know what setting makes the nice lines for writing?

[@WadWizard]

I think its mostly just freehand, but some of the lines appear to be done by holding shift, im not sure if painter has line smoothing. Oh, it might be because of how painter handles brushe strokes, its more of a simulation of traditional mediums, so if you have ever used photoshop and had say a square brush that follows your direction, it gets those jaged edges cause its just stamping the same shape down rapidly, but in painter im not sure exactly what it does, but to put it simply it fills in the gaps. What i imagine is going on is that its somewhat similar to how vector programs work, where its aplying your brush to the path you move along. In that case i dont think its a setting, most brushes work that way unless you import a stamp or so ething like that.

[@nafzee]

that makes sense :) thanks

[@nightynightshade]

You know what would be cool? An epic Tangent masterpiece with nothing BUT good&bad tangents. 🤔

[@blacksheep8534]

learned alot :l THNX! :D

[@cloggedaorta]

Lol I spilled my coke at 3:41

[@floorpuncher3280]

This is the first time in my life I’ve heard the word tangent.

[@sebinsuresh9656]

I liked the thumbnail actually..

[@sarahmcfadden8990]

I had an art teacher that referred to these as "kissing lines".

[@craigdaversa451]

such a happy little tortoise. he doesn't care.

[@andrewdesesso7632]

5:04 T A N Gent-leman

[@chilopodafreutsichwieeinsc3969]

Aahhh The obtuse triangle AaaHh The obtuse triangle aAAAAHHHH THE OBTUSE TRIANGLE

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

Imagine ever drawing backgrounds haha what do I look like a photographer haha

[@Egorold]

a laugh of desperation and sorrow

[@nobodycares6941]

what did tangents ever do to you?

[@fridaaa0]

Idk I thought the thumbnail looked kinda cool :D lmao

[@Painted_Owl]

You know: I learned your definition of "tangents" as the definition of Framing. What would your definition of Framing be?

[@picosdrivethru]

I have no idea how the old masters painted complex scenes and environments and balanced this all out, lots of placement and erasing geeze

[@user-rc7oz6th2f]

tangent/10

[@831mark]

How can you have 340 000 subscribers and 1900 thumbs up on an invaluable explanation on composition? I know, it can't be answered.

[@arturospeaks]

Me with OCD: **Heavy breathing**

[@kenonerboy]

actually, tangents arent nearly as bad as just veeery slight overlapping edges

[@korpen3770]

*Oh god.. my apartment is full of tangents. Please send help.*

[@InterWarp]

I liked the thumbnail though... :(

[@DawiThumbnails]

am i wrong for liking the thumbnail?

[@iiguroo3257]

Omg i'm the 2000th like :D

[@catchycatchy6167]

attention a tangent!