Nope, we did not cover lapping scope rings in this one, the reason is because it is typically not an issue for you average user, by average we are referring to the vast majority of rifle shooter. Lapping rings is important for precision rifle shooting and it deserves it's own video.
@Alex325-z5l Жыл бұрын
Hey Caleb, looks like you need to flip your front sight on that Armalite Rifle you have there.
@dodgersfnshepard8673 Жыл бұрын
Do a video about keeping/cleaning lenses
@halfinchholes88 Жыл бұрын
I lap nearly every scope, but if not, I still use the lapping bar to verify alignment issues before torqueing the caps down. A little Dykem Hi-Spot Blue can show it all. Normally, I marry scopes to a specific rifle, and never move them between rifles. Saves a lot of troubles and headaches.
@BCM1959 Жыл бұрын
@@CalebSavant sounds like your mind is made up... 👍😎👍
@vettepilot427 Жыл бұрын
@@halfinchholes88 If there is one thing on the planet that’s worse than anti-seize about getting EVERYWHERE it’s Hi-Spot. I swear I can touch the tube and have it between my toes when I get home.
@lincolnpascual Жыл бұрын
I'm getting old, so watching other gunsmiths re-affirm things that I know reassures me that I'm still on top of my game. Thanks guys. I struggle to remember to wear pants out of the house sometimes. At least the gun knowledge is still there.
@MF_UNDERTOW Жыл бұрын
It’s important to push the rings or mounts forward (towards the muzzle) inside the pic rail notches before tightening them down so that they remain snug under recoil.
@montgomeryfitzpatrick4734 ай бұрын
First time I put a $40 scope on a high fps air rifle I failed to do this and thought it was the cheap scope not holding zero, just turns out I just hadnt learned how to mount on pic rail yet
@danschmitt249027 күн бұрын
@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473also you need to make sure the scope is capable of handling the double recoil and high frequency vibrations of a piston air rifle if it is that style... Piston air rifles will wreck a lot of scopes... I have shot one out on mine... 😬 Was thinking any old center fire rifle scope would handle it but... I guess not.. now as we progress with tech... Alot of modern scopes will handle it.. but not all of them I figured that out!! Scope was 400.00 and now it's a paper weight... Everything mounted correctly... I mount all of my own equipment.. first time that's ever happened.. don't ever buy barska and throw it on an air rifle!! 😂
@goosecouple Жыл бұрын
Tip: Inspect the inner radius of the scope rings. Run your finger along the radius and feel for surface irregularities. Sometimes the radius are irregular due to machining defect. Don't mistakenly assume Made in USA to mean "defect-free".
@LuvBorderCollies Жыл бұрын
Good point.!! I learned the hard way to feel the radius on every brand of scope ring.
@michaelb4528 Жыл бұрын
The E Coat or A Coat finish can also have runs like paint inside the rings that should be lapped out
@aransasfirearms Жыл бұрын
You should always make sure your rings or mount are pushed forward against the slot before torquing to spec, imho......
@tombaxter2879 Жыл бұрын
You guys should do much longer (~30-60 minute) deep dives on this topic (and many others). I learn a lot from this channel. Thanks.
@mikesuch9021 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget a bore sighter from Brownells. I ordered one over 40 years ago and it has saved me countless amounts of ammunition dialing in firearms for myself and customers.
@CalebDor Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for this. I checked my scope and rings while Caleb was talking and sure enough they were making contact with the turrets both front and back. I had no clue that them touching could make such a difference. I can't wait to get out to the range after work tomorrow to see the improvements. Thank you much gentlemen.
@2CODO1963 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if anybody mentioned this, but if you are going to use a torque wrench, it is essential to return the setting to zero before setting the wrench to a different torque value. Do this every time you change the setting and every time you are done using the wrench
@blackhawk7r221 Жыл бұрын
I’ll add a few that our shop sees VERY often: 1- the ring to receiver screws and ring screws themselves need to all be brought down together gently in steps to gain perfect alignment and seating. 2-average AR scope needs to be 1-1/4” to 1-1/2”. 3- Do not use separate rings and bridge a receiver to a handguard 4- a solid one piece mount setup is always better, IF your bolt action allows. AR’s no problem. 5- Interface problems between Weaver and Picatinny. 6-scope mounted too high causing a gap in cheek to stock contact. 7- clueless as to how to achieve proper cheek to stock weld, and clueless as to how to adjusting their body to properly shoulder the rifle. 8- believe it or not, placing the optic where it looks coolest.
@blackhawk7r221 Жыл бұрын
@Hewhoremains420 What kind of rifle do you need to scope?
@Jammaster1972 Жыл бұрын
Nobody talked about LocTite ????
@blackhawk7r221 Жыл бұрын
@@Jammaster1972 We don’t recommend Loctite. It’s not so much that screws back off, but rather the aluminum rings, aluminum mounts, and aluminum rails all expand and contract going from indoor temp to outdoor temp, to hot barrel warmth, then cold outdoors temp, then back to a warm house. Aluminum is one hell of a good heat conductor, so expansion and contraction causes slight looseness over time, so setting the screws at the proper torque with Loctite will cause issues later when it’s time to retorque, which you WILL have to do with aluminum. Allen head cap screws round off easy enough as it is. Now if you have steel rings on steel mounts torqued properly, you’re good, Loctite or not.
@Jammaster1972 Жыл бұрын
@@blackhawk7r221 I hear what you're saying. However, my experience with LocTite has been such that I've never rounded metal loosening them. Have you experienced this? Does the LocTite interfere with the accuracy of the next Torque? In other words, does it interfere with the re-tightening to torque spec? Thanks for your opinion.
@Grizzleback074 ай бұрын
@@blackhawk7r221Weird....Locktite is used on automotive parts, many of which experience extreme thermocycling, and have not failed. So how does the minor temperature adjustments of a firearm compared to those in an automotive engine make it inferior? Sounds like you are buying into the firearms snake oil threadlock market.
@ilukeberry Жыл бұрын
it's a joy to listen both of you.. please continue these... I've learned a lot!
@kevinrezac8214 Жыл бұрын
I volunteer at a gun range and a frequent problem I see with AR-15's are when the forward scope mount touches or is fully on the hand guard rather than fully on the upper receiver. That can grow your groups from 2 inches to 13 inches.
@SchooloftheAmericanRifle Жыл бұрын
Always a great job fellas. Brownells is a blessing to Gunsmiths and Armorer's.
@mikesuch9021 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Reloaders.
@sluttybutt Жыл бұрын
Just not a blessing to gun manufacturers/partners with whom lead-poisoned male-menopausal arfcom red hats disagree solely on the basis of their politics 🤷♂
@mikebillman8089 Жыл бұрын
As are you good Sir.
@davidanderson5259 Жыл бұрын
I got a nice Vortex scope for Christmas... I went out and bought a torque screwdriver specifically to mount it...glad I did the right thing rather than just eyeballing it.
@triplefoam Жыл бұрын
742 - been there and so funny that you mentioned it! 50 years ago, I was ready to use my Bicentienial 742 30-06 as a boat anchor as it simply would not hold a scope sighting... Scope rings may not need torquing, but the 742 forearm screw needs to be tightened by the hulk with a big ass screw driver! Thank you for your content fellas!
@goodnewseverybody739 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s the only time I need to screw in the handle on torque wrench. My fore end had such a bad fit I tossed the nylon spacer and bedded it front and back- much better. As for poi shift, if everything is good up top with the scope, remove the 3/4 nut off the recoil lug, remove the barrel and check the treads on the stud. See if the nut runs down it good past the point it would tighten the barrel, I had to use a thread file cause mine were cut shallow toward the bottom. Clean off loctite throughly. I had to grind a wrench to get that nut off. After I did these 2 things it took a rifle that was shooting dirt to a 2” rifle😊.
@allenseal5551 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny you mentioned the 742. I was picturing my 742 with see through rings when you guys were discussing it, and then you brought up the 742. I’ve had good look with the setup using an old tasco exp. It’s my most trusted hunting rifle.
@johncmitchell49418 ай бұрын
1) I like 2-screw vs 4 or 6-screw rings with older, lighter glass. To keep a scope from slipping I'll dust them inside with powdered rosin. I learned this when still shooting gas piston vs PCP airguns. 2) Not for QDs but on some 1" setups I'll put a TGP bar into the rings before finally tightening them to the rail, then swap out the bar for the scope. This is quick & easy and why I don't feel a need to lap rings. btw, great video.
@kevinyoung8651 Жыл бұрын
Suggestion; a video on the value of a good torque wrench. I bought one a couple years ago and I had no idea what a jack legged mess I had been making, especially on scope mounting but even worse was action screws. The difference is night and day.
@michaelb4528 Жыл бұрын
Wheeler F.A,T. (Firearm Accurizing Torque) wrench is awesome addition to the tool box.
@michaelb4528 Жыл бұрын
Never gets old listening to true professionals. Thanks for the great video fellas
@briskyoungploughboy Жыл бұрын
Some older rifles have hand-ground receiver tops. Misalignment of scope-bases is almost inevitable. Best way to avoid bending your scope-tube is to use the Burris Signature rings- the ones with the spherical nylon inserts. Or you can spend hours lapping your rings with a 1" steel bar and auto valve grinding paste.
@emogowlАй бұрын
Scope mounting is one of these areas where every tyre kicker in a club will have an opinion. Nice to watch/listen to experts, thank you
@milboltnutАй бұрын
Great tips! I just ordered a rail base last night to replace my two piece weaver bases. The rings were to close to the bell and parallex dial! Accuracy was good but occasionally went somewhere, and l believe the rings were pinching internally
@M_Pashby Жыл бұрын
I have see-through scope mounts on a muzzleloader that has FO irons as well. I like the irons option for quick acquisition of deer when they sneak up on me.
@hoosiered471 Жыл бұрын
Very valuable information guys!!! ....and the way you described common scope mounting problems with easy to understand examples was much appreciated. Every beginner shooter should be watching all your videos!!!!
@friskywildthing Жыл бұрын
Great info, gentlemen! I didn't realize how detrimental proper placement of scope rings on the scope barrel can be. Thank you. Some of the mistakes you mentioned I've already made with a Vortex Venom 5-25x56 I recently purchased. The 34mm Vortex Pro (medium height) scope rings I bought causes the front of the scope to contact the rifle barrel when the lens cap's in place. Luckily I haven't tightened anything down, so I can exchange the rings for the correct height.
@unbereafigendlic8414 Жыл бұрын
Vibra-tite instead of Loctite for removing scopes if you need to. It's designed for guns and you can reuse what you've already applied instead of cleaning it off and reapplying it.
@maxstueven1965 Жыл бұрын
Make sure you are careful the torque settings can change if you are using any compound that was not factory applied to the screws. Torque settings will be different for wet vs dry. This is why I follow the manufacturers instructions.
@chrisfournier6144 Жыл бұрын
Vibra-tite is a great product!
@xenomorph1317 Жыл бұрын
You also have scope ring caps with three screws on top, so what torque do u use then?
@JohnLee-lr2op10 ай бұрын
Sound advice, gentlemen, especially with all the different approaches, methods, and ideas out there now.
@syork244 ай бұрын
Excellent advice. Your video explained why I have been having problems getting my scope zero'ed. The first thing I need to do is get a new AR scope mount.
@kcMan79383 ай бұрын
I am a believer in using the wheeler scope ring lapping tool on all scope rings . It improves the fit and increases more contact surface for rings to hold onto scope. I consider it a necessary step when mounting a new scope .
@tomforeman4976 Жыл бұрын
When I first mount anything especially scopes I use liquid white out in the little squeeze bottle with the metal tip to put a fine dot on each screw to check for proper tightness at a glance. After a box or so doubel check with torque wrench and use engine decreased to clean off white out and trust your work until it changes on patters.
@TheFlyingZulu Жыл бұрын
Some things I learned when mounting my first scope and that was not mentioned in the video well... Make sure the RETICLE and action of the gun is level before and after tightening down a scope. This will make zeroing a rifle much more precise and attainable. I emphasise RETICLE because the scope housing could be slightly off from the reticle. Some people just toss a level on the top flat part of the scope and go with that... nope. Put a level on the rifle scope rail mounts and then shine a light through the scope and it'll project the reticle onto the wall. Then use a hanging line to line up the vertible reticle with the line on the wall. This is called using a plumb bob. The rings should also be pushed all the way FORWARD in the rail slots before tightening. If the rings are reward in the slots the recoil could make the rings work forward and throw off your zero.
@JohnDoeEagle1 Жыл бұрын
Unless you are using a $30 Walmart scope the housing and caps will be perfectly square and level. They are CNC machined in this day in age. "This" isn't a Plumb Bob either. It's a torpedo shaped object that you hang in the dead center of a door/window etc etc from a string from above. When it's perfectly plumb using gravity the point of the torpedo will be pointing to the exact center on the bottom and you can start nailing. Have to find exact center on both the top and bottom for it to work.
@davidunderwood3605 Жыл бұрын
Very good video. You forgot the one piece scope mounts, they can be turned around backwards. Some makes no difference other than looking non conventional but those that offer that extra 20+ moa is another way to not getting good groups if you can adjust to get on paper
@Casper0844 Жыл бұрын
Also its important to use the same material scope base as the scope ring, right? Mounting tip: front load the mount i.e. push it forward. That ensures solid engagement with the rail under recoil and more importantly allows repeatable zero if you run a QD and swap optics
@hopewilliams6705 Жыл бұрын
Getting ready to mount one soon great information and timing
@jamesdaniel6081 Жыл бұрын
Tip: Level your scope with/using the reticle, not the elevation cap.
@yeejay6396 Жыл бұрын
Interesting..
@JohnDoeEagle1 Жыл бұрын
Have to use the elevation cap to place the level on to get the crosshairs level in addition to a level mounted on your barrel or Pic 1913 rail. Start with the barrel or rail being level first. Once it is.... level the crosshairs to that level and itself using BOTH levels together. You will have perfect alignment if you do. I use the Wheeler Engineering kit for all my scopes. It has all the pieces included.
@JohnDoeEagle1 Жыл бұрын
@Hewhoremains420 Too close to the objective or front of the scope.
@leewilkinson6372 Жыл бұрын
So, I watched a video where the guy shined a light through the scope so that the reticle appeared on a wall. He then leveled the receiver with spirit level and aligned the scope by using a plumb Bob on the vertical cross hair because a plumb Bob is "hands free" Seems like it would work really well, but needs a bit of space and a clean wall to work. Neither of which I have in my workspace unfortunately. I'd like to try it though.
@garyfrancis-ns3kq4 ай бұрын
Losing the vision of my dominant eye to age. Have used a left-handed Remington model 700 and I was amazed by how we shot together. Ranch rifle that rode in a rifle case behind the seat. Looking for a new left-handed rifle now and it will need a scope also.
@MrRockstar1968 Жыл бұрын
Can you please explain how you determined placing the mounts right to the edge of the scope causes it to affect the accuracy?
@warriorlink861210 ай бұрын
7:36 this happened to me 😅 Had the scope rotated 90 degrees. Went to sight that in and up was left, right was down. It was so messed up. My father-in-law was bewildered as to why we couldn't sight it in. LOL!
@ethanterry337013 күн бұрын
Small tip: Level the vise, then the rifle to the vise, then the scope to the rifle to the vise. You can buy leveling kits, but there are magnetic line levels out there that will work too, for like a couple bucks a pop. Remove the elevation turret cap to place the level, since the cap is just one more layer that will throw off true level.
@lanceschul Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. How about a debate on reticle leveling? I’ve determined that the plumb bob method works the best for me. What do you say?
@Steaknjake.45 Жыл бұрын
Do what works, right? Lots of scopes are flat under the turret and a quality rail is flat. So I’ve had good luck with using a piece of steel to align those surfaces. There are alignment tools that use two wedges to do the same thing.
@lanceschul Жыл бұрын
@@Steaknjake.45 for sure. Feeler gauges work too. I have tried the wedges but when I get things snuggled up they tend to get stuck…
@Steaknjake.45 Жыл бұрын
@@lanceschul I’ve not tried them but could see that happening. I just tilt a piece of steel that has parallel edges, as I tighten the rings I use it to keep the scope and rail parallel. With a plumb bob I’ve struggled to keep the gun level, any tricks?
@lanceschul Жыл бұрын
@@Steaknjake.45 take your time. I have a CTK Precision level that lays over the pic rail. Excellent product. Or the wheeler model that clamps to your barrel. Just keep an eye on those while you true the reticle.
@rickmiller8931 Жыл бұрын
Thank I will be mounting my vortex this weekend. So awesome to see this video show up this evening. And thank you
@criagcundiff2469 Жыл бұрын
Once again, Thank you for educating me. This time re. the elevation factor difference for mounting on AR platform.
@jamesmartin7282 Жыл бұрын
Such common sense stuff, some of which I have never considered... thanks, Steve and Caleb!
@randomanon5237 ай бұрын
Please cover the topic of Right Hand Dominate / Left Eye use shooting. I'm blind in my right but shoot right handed. I have my acog mounts on a 3/4s riser. But still have to smash my head down to get my left eye level to see through the scope
@timothysuddath3852 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have an old Savage 99 in .308 win. Never could get it to hold a group. 4 dead on, then a few flyers. My rings were right up to the ends of tube. I had to, to get the right eye relief. Now I know - I need a longer scope, and get those rings off the objective and eye relief adjustment. I kept thinking I had a foukded barrel, maybe needed to re-crown. The rifle shows no evidence of that, but I was out of ideas.
@blackhawk7r221 Жыл бұрын
Get a cantalevered one piece mount like a Nikon
@timothysuddath3852 Жыл бұрын
@@blackhawk7r221 Not 100% that would would. The 99 is a lever action top eject. I guess I could the same style pic rail I use on my mini 14 to accommodate top. eject.
@timothysuddath3852 Жыл бұрын
@@blackhawk7r221 Though the idea of a pic rail on a 60s model lever action....ugh. Classic look and feel out the door.
@davidlayne8755 Жыл бұрын
They make special bullets for that rifle.. the bearing surface is moved out ..... I had a Stevens 308 that had a lot of free bore and these bullets shot the best....
@timothysuddath3852 Жыл бұрын
@@davidlayne8755Yeah, my gunsmith who handles what I can't got me fixed up. Ammo, the scope rings. We went elevated scope rings so I could still use open sights. Bored perfectly. Just a straight 4X, shots here are not long range. Also learned I was benching it wrong. Have to go way back. Get it on the receiver. So the barrel can float. Working great now.
@josh48315 Жыл бұрын
Definitely Vibratite VC3 instead of Loctite for almost all screws: scopes, mounts, handguard accessories, etc.
@jackfrench3324 Жыл бұрын
In the case of the scope being a little loose in the rings, I've seen a small piece of friction material like 320 grit "wet or dry" sandpaper cut into a strip, and placed under the scope. It gives the rings the needed "grip" onto the tube. Not the best solution but it works for plinking guns, etc.
@gunfisher4661 Жыл бұрын
There`s a couple places out there that offer special adhesive type tape made special for the scope rings to cure that problem since not all the manufactures include the anti friction tape on the rings.
@jordanrick2931 Жыл бұрын
If you’re using this technique you need to invest in better quality scopes and rings
@timwoodruff5998 Жыл бұрын
Did you all cover using a level tool so that the scope crosshairs are not tilted out of level in relation to the receiver?
@timwoodruff5998 Жыл бұрын
Leveling scope was barely mentioned but an explanation why level matters as distance increases helps understanding.
@ianthrockmorton9167 Жыл бұрын
Check out the video Vortex put out on leveling scopes, you might be surprised what you find.
@jimdavenport8020 Жыл бұрын
Did I hear you say that if the scope COVER (bikini cover) fits tight between the scope and barrel, it will cause a problem?
@mrnukeduster Жыл бұрын
Good products, good people. Thanks for doing what you do.
@mpatrick7860 Жыл бұрын
You guys mentioned loctite. I use blue on the threads of my scope mounts and rings. I use one tiny drop on each screw. Do y'all recommend that? I'd just like to know if I'm incorrect on this. I did have a scope come loose on me once. I was going crazy chasing groups and then eventually wasn't even on the paper. Last thing I expected was to notice my scope was loose. And a gunsmith in my area had mounted that one. This is why I use lactate. (I did buy that torque wrench y'all mentioned). Anyway, I'd like to know what you recommend? And thank you, M
@tanneracord1282 Жыл бұрын
How does one of the rings touching the turrent housing throw off accuracy? I have one that is touching, and it has always drove nails out to 500 yards?
@jamesdelong6401 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, gentlemen. About the lock tight. Are you supposed to use blue lock tight on the rings screws?
@1982rrose2 ай бұрын
Stock, mount, barrel, objective lens. How do you choose the right height?
@jaxbeach0910 ай бұрын
On the bolt gun, no mention of the ring mounted in the middle of the base over the ejection port? You always want to keep your rings over the pillars of the base.
@brownells10 ай бұрын
That dosent matter.
@Paul-q3m7k10 ай бұрын
@@brownellsbingo
@DanielRyanScott Жыл бұрын
My favorite one that was from a customer for us to "fix": The scope will work better if you mount the eyepiece facing the buttstock and the objective lens facing the barrel.
@texasstadium3 ай бұрын
Customer was probably a Navy Admiral.
@killertruth1863 ай бұрын
I am surprised you haven’t mentioned about scope magnification adjustment rings in the video.
@beevang6004 ай бұрын
If my scope and rifle is spot on but I notice the cross hair isn’t very straight. Can I loosen the scope ring and fix the scope to adjust the cross hair to be straight will that through off my shooting on paper? Thx!
@rodneyspence7441 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this informative video - as long as you tighten the mounting screws to the recommended torques it really isnt necessary to use loctite is it?
@appaple2937 Жыл бұрын
doesn’t hurt to. i’d rather do it to have peace of mind
@eliinthewolverinestate6729 Жыл бұрын
That was the pin bracket and arrow rest on my bow this year. It was a little loose. I even checked and moved pins to 10 yards and practiced preseason archery deer while bear hunting. The 10 yards pins were too much. Shot over 2 deer. Last day I reset to 5 yard pins. But couldn't get pulled back quick enough.
@snipersl270 Жыл бұрын
A note about mounting a scope with the windage and elevation backwards. I've got a Rem 788 in 22-250 that loves to eject the empty into the turret cover and bounce back into the chamber. Extractors being hens teeth for the thing I decided not to mess with it too much and turned the scope 90 degrees to the left so there was no longer a turret cover over the ejection port. Its wonky but works.
@jcows12Ай бұрын
What if your rings are set to be as narrow as possible but the scope needs to be set at the edge of the bell to fit? Is it a pressure thing? Obviously they should be able to have some strength in those areas as well
@rbballfreak020 Жыл бұрын
what do you think about ring tape? i know blue threadlock can help a ton but if ring tape can assist w/ other factors such as cant and alignment. I want to know that I will have a solid mount and be able to dismount down the road no issues.
@yoyomamamma2260 Жыл бұрын
Freedom arms recommended me to butt the turret base to my ring, no accuracy issues at all. Also touching a barrel with the bell does not always mean issues. This is only your opinions, not laws
@brownells Жыл бұрын
Not laws, but facts based on mechanical principles.
@stephenkrampert3430 Жыл бұрын
I believe the old Redfield and weaver scope catalogs. Had a lot of this information in them in the early 70s stay away from the erector and the lenses.
@joeyzagari41553 ай бұрын
If the scope manufacturer specifies ring torque dissimilar to the ring manufacturer, do you go with whichever is lower? Plus, how far beyond the scope manufacturer ring torque settings can a slightly crushed tube cause issues with holding zero and tall target click tracking test? How far beyond manufacturer recommendations will symptoms reveal itself. Bushnell mentioned “as tight as possible” in their manual for the elite tactical series. It’s stupid that the ring torque is not specified in the scope spec table that lists field of view, focal plane and magnification etc. all scopes should have the torque spec there with the rest of the summary but they don’t.
@OriginalMusic198323 күн бұрын
Anything I need to know about the placement of the rings on the Picatinny rail?
@ETHRON1 Жыл бұрын
What is your veiw on scopes that are mounted 90 degrees off...being the elevation is used for windage but on the left side and the windage is the elevation on top...I've seen some military shooters set their scopes that way. It is said that way you can make adjustments with the left hand and not release your firing hand...
@jstpsgthru Жыл бұрын
No mention of torque value ranges? My 24mm tube scope mount and Spitfire optic both call for 25 inch lbs on just about every screw. Is this close to universal? I think it usually is dependent on screw size, but these tubes (like you say) are vulnerable.
@spotmyimpactbro Жыл бұрын
Heavy scopes mounted on precision bolt action rifles with cantilever mounts. I see this needless combination a lot, and when taking into account recoil and inertia, this must put some real stress on the mount. I would like to see some examples of shooting with a high speed camera. Like a fat guy on a diving board. Thoughts?
@davidnuttall-y7l10 ай бұрын
great video guys ; to the point, sweet and short !
@bigosbro21 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you.
@DougMiller-vi5up9 ай бұрын
The rear ring on the bolt gun is “on the bridge” and not “on the island.” Is that best practice?
@LJK301 Жыл бұрын
Because there's always a bit of loose tolerance between the mounting points on a rifle (whatever standard that has an integrated recoil lug) and the rings, I've had a habit of pushing the scope rings forward whenever I initially tighten them to place. Since the rifle moves backwards when firing, everything "hanging" on the gun will tend to want to stay in place, effectively pushing it forwards on the gun. If the rings are already at their forward most position, they can't move in place. Don't know if this practically makes a difference but it's at least a little bit of peace of mind. Also applies the other way around. If I have a front grip on my AR-15, I'll pull it backwards before tightening it, since I'm going to be pulling on it fairly aggressively when shooting.
@JRTRAPP1 Жыл бұрын
"Hit or miss" sums up see through rings perfectly.
@joshadams7105 Жыл бұрын
Tips on maintaining a scope’s level as you are tightening scope rings? I’ve found myself having to loosen scope rings and retighten them because my scope lost its level when securing the rings around the scope.
@pauliewalnuts1949 Жыл бұрын
I was all over the place at the range with my new scope. I watched your video and found that the “power” rotating device was in contact with the pic rail. I repositioned and tested and the problem is fixed Thanks for another great video.
@roul3688 Жыл бұрын
If your mount sits level on a table, I’ve leveled the scope to the mount and it comes out perfect after mounting to an AR.
@braxtonoverby7122 Жыл бұрын
What about lapping the scope to the rings? When I install a scope I always lap the scope and rings.
@jordanrick2931 Жыл бұрын
What companies rings are you lapping?
@Clayman5577 Жыл бұрын
That’s really unnecessary with rings of today
@firearmsolutions46 Жыл бұрын
Here in Pennsylvania every Remington 760 pump that comes in my shop has see thru rings.
@bsmith150 Жыл бұрын
Using locktite on the screws??? Good or bad?
@ratagris212 ай бұрын
Good
@KB-bs4ct Жыл бұрын
No mention of the red dot on top with the magnified optic on a 45° mount. For the AR-15. Seen at a local show should have taken pictures.
@cameronjaeger Жыл бұрын
I'd love to get your opinion on the use of rosin for scope mounting
@joseavila245110 ай бұрын
Does it matter what direction you have a cantilever mount facing as long as you have the scope the correct way?
@lencac7952 Жыл бұрын
The biggest mistake I see people make in mounting a scope to their rifle is letting Sportsman's Warehouse charge them $25 do the job with laser bore sighting 😜 Can't keep track of how many "hunters" I've seen at the range with a new set-up and they aren't even on paper at 100 yrds. They say it's a new set-up with Sportsman's doing the work. Even though they bought the rifle and scope from Sportsman's they still get charged $25 for mounting and laser bore sighting. Many times even the scope is not squared-up to the axis of the bore. So because at that point I feel sorry for them I'll pull the bolt and do a quick by-eye bore sight which usually results in the first shot being within a few inches of the bulls-eye.
@ministerJason1Ай бұрын
What would cause a max out in elevation tourett after mounting, touqued to specs and lazer bore sightinf... I have 7 mill/.07 Mrad of adjustment left out a possible 36 MRAD
@eford72 ай бұрын
so when tightening the rings with a torque screw driver I have been using 15 In lbs. The have two screws per side on a cantilever mount. I also use 28-30 in lbs for attaching the mount to the rail (bolt action chambered in .22lr). Your thoughts?
@ratlips4363 Жыл бұрын
Great info guys! Thanks for the eye opener
@MPC_2117 Жыл бұрын
Tips for widening up some scope rings? I've got a period correct Zf39 side scope mount(reproduction) for my mauser, but the only scope I could get is 0.5mm too large.
@hokehinson5987 Жыл бұрын
Ùsing poster board on wall. Drawing a plumbed vertical on board making sure reciver is plumb...adjust scope by Turing in mounts to align retinal to plumb line tighten clamps
@SnapD24 Жыл бұрын
That look in Caleb's eyes at the mention of Loctite...
@Paladin1873 Жыл бұрын
Some good simple tips here.
@michiganmafiamx5543 Жыл бұрын
The scope mounted on Lee Harvey Oswald’s scope was loose and flappy (per this video it was reason #2 for inaccurate rifles), yet we’re told he made those shots with that rifle..
@CutlassOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Another common problem is adhesives like Loctite getting between the rings and the scope’s body tube, preventing the rings from properly gripping the body tube.
@woohoo2you966 Жыл бұрын
How much of a gap between the scope and the rifle (and things mounted to it) are acceptable? For example, I have an AR with a LPVO, mounted below the eye piece is a folded down rear BUIS. There is about 1 - 2 credit card's worth of space between the two. No touching but is CLOSE. (Look's similar in setup to Steve's son's AR in the video)
@brownells Жыл бұрын
If a piece of card stock fits without interference, it's good.
@woohoo2you966 Жыл бұрын
@@brownells thank you!
@frankbrowning328 Жыл бұрын
@@brownells If you have a decent deck of cards thats a perfect piece of card stock
@PrayerWarriorPh3 ай бұрын
Hot damn I learned so much from this 8 min video. Thanks so much! Priceless information.
@larryward1082 Жыл бұрын
Me too I've been mountain scopes forever and everybody's always been very happy with what I've done for him
@andrewstoll4548 Жыл бұрын
A guy just did a video show large distance between bore and scope. I'll have to see if I can find it.
@juniyananajukyu Жыл бұрын
It's MDT who made the videi
@roytallericoGunner Жыл бұрын
I just use Burris signature rings..that takes care of alignment
@jeffreyMagnum460 Жыл бұрын
I always use medium thread locking compound on the fasteners.