Quick Tip For Fitting Replacement Piston Rings Into A Chainsaw Engine

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WAY OUT WEST with Sandra and Tim

WAY OUT WEST with Sandra and Tim

Күн бұрын

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@billlaporte8255
@billlaporte8255 5 ай бұрын
That tip saved me so much stress, THANK YOU!!!
@drmkiwi
@drmkiwi 7 жыл бұрын
There is no easy part! I'm pleased it was you and not me, but you must have been delighted when your beloved chainsaw was chooching again. Cheers, David
@springwoodcottage4248
@springwoodcottage4248 7 жыл бұрын
We used to use bake bean tins in exactly the same way. One can use big jubilee clips (hose clamps to Americans), plastic cable ties, string etc, to compress the outer sleeve & then get the pistons rings into the bore if working alone, but best not to have a swear box nearby! Much easier with two pairs of hands. . I have had more problems with bigger engines. I once did a 2.4 litre VW diesel in a Volvo & the rings were anything but cooperative & in that case I did buy the proper tool & have been thankful for it. Sometimes these jobs go well without a re-bore, but I did a Briggs & Stratton on a Merry Tiller & it is a nuisance for fouling plugs & I always wished I had had enough money at the time to re-bore it. I have a Stihl chain saw that needs the same treatment as yours. The seller who we bought it off new, said It had been run on too low an oil content, but its no where near as bad as yours, but the compression makes it very difficult to start & then it drinks fuel. Think I will rebore it sometime. But finding the time is hard & it's one job among so very many. Good Luck with yours!
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
You make a good point about the plug - I guess that's a sign of oil leakage if it gets fouled up quickly? Thank you. I've never had to re-bore a cylinder - sounds interesting. But still I think I'll avoid it if I can..!
@ronmartinmhg2804
@ronmartinmhg2804 7 жыл бұрын
I like the piston ring compressor. Better than buying one which you will use high days and holidays. Good video. Good to see I'm not the only one that has to undo something because of something I've forgotten.
@CraigArndt
@CraigArndt 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, lucky to have saved that motor. It really runs good and that chain was sharp!
@Nighthawkinlight
@Nighthawkinlight 7 жыл бұрын
Do you have any tricks for those annoying ring shaped spring retaining clips that hold in bearings and all sorts of other stuff? Most of them are too big and way too strong for the common sizes of spring pliers that are supposed to take them on and off.
@gramursowanfaborden5820
@gramursowanfaborden5820 7 жыл бұрын
i'd like to know about this too, they're right little buggers. there must be something that makes them easier to work with.
@ellisonrepair
@ellisonrepair 7 жыл бұрын
Correct size of pins, on the pliers, are key to successful installation / removal
@ellisonrepair
@ellisonrepair 7 жыл бұрын
Here is a good video, not mine, on how to do piston pin clips kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHvZfqGVi9F9aqcm4s
@Nighthawkinlight
@Nighthawkinlight 7 жыл бұрын
Good tip for the interior ones. The rings that go on the outside of a shaft I've found to be the worst of them though. There's some that need to open a good inch to slip over the shaft, and standard ring pliers only open 3/4" at best. I've found real big spring pliers, but they're all poorly reviewed until you get to sets that are $80 or more. Worth making my own from regular pliers for that kind of cost.
@ellisonrepair
@ellisonrepair 7 жыл бұрын
$80. for a life time is not so bad. If a one time use, maybe your local rental yard
@qualqui
@qualqui 7 жыл бұрын
Always something very interesting here on ya guy's channel, watching your friend bring back to life this trusty ol' chainsaw! :)
@themall1314
@themall1314 7 жыл бұрын
Love when old tools are resuscitated
@krzysztofkacprzak7986
@krzysztofkacprzak7986 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my Jonseted for 18 years, a lot of firewood cut. Made the same mistake, all by myself🤬 I rebuilt it and run it for one season, but she’s on a shelf now. Had to upgrade as new anti vibration technology is kinder to my joints. Great video.
@ThePete1891
@ThePete1891 4 жыл бұрын
I'm working on a husky, but 2 seconds in I looked at my Johnny on the bench,and said hey! That's my saw!! Thank you.
@mbm2355
@mbm2355 Жыл бұрын
I didnt know I needed chainsaw repair tips narrated to me in the style of Beatrix Potter, but here we are.
@frodehau
@frodehau 7 жыл бұрын
The mark on the piston , usually an arrow, is supposed to point towards the exaust. How do I know? I used to do stuff like this for a living. Never bothered with the ring compressor, just squeezed on the rings to get them past the cylinder opening, but that tube trick was nice. Also remember to measure the piston ring gap. Insert one ringe in the cyllinder bore, and measure the gap with a feeler gauge, and check it against manufacturers recomendations. If the gap is too narrow, then the ring wil lock in the boore when heat expands it. Usually you get the right rings from the store, but I have been sendt the wrong ones. Grind down exess until the gap is right.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
That makes sense. Perhaps we were just lucky but it seems to be working fine. So far!
@frodehau
@frodehau 7 жыл бұрын
Way Out West Blow-in blog You would have noticed it the first time the engine reached opperating temperature. Nice job btw, always nice to see when people fix things instead of throwing it away. You could often buy a new saw just for the parts price, but those cheapos are not at all reliable. Btw, I saw your Cordelia thingy, really neat. I hope someone licences it, it deserves to get out to a wider audience.
@Menditman2014
@Menditman2014 7 жыл бұрын
Hi good fix, I usually replace both pot and piston but I'm tempted to clean the pot next time if not to bad. It's good keep the old tools going, you get to know your tools, also great idea with the tube. Good vid thanks🙂👍
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mowersandstuff. Yes, the tube worked REALLY well.
@TheRealCCSmith
@TheRealCCSmith 3 жыл бұрын
👍comment for the algorithm.... very good idea 💡I found this video after breaking a few rings.
@5327Eagles
@5327Eagles 7 жыл бұрын
Well done chaps, you guys are an inspiration to us all .✅👍
@motordiverse1276
@motordiverse1276 3 жыл бұрын
Hey ! Very good tips ! :-). Thx for sharing ! I would sand grind the edges though...on the plastic made tube tool ! Just to make it operate moore smoothly and precise and...well with out anoying small quantom plastick bits flying arround eighter...they might end up in the cylinder grate or the sylinder itself....and would be anoying i bet...with small melted quantum plastic parrticles...where not should be. Just a suggestion and just saying. To get them correct and going...those old machines...is very satisfying...and you tips there was very good as i said. Also i think you remind everyone to be smart and creative...and than you make yourself more and more comfertable on issues that is anyoing and seems difficult. Perfect solution he he
@colinpobjoy4895
@colinpobjoy4895 7 жыл бұрын
Lovely video as usual. Good to repair useful tools. Shame my old Suffolk colt wont start, but thats another storey.
@locouk
@locouk 7 жыл бұрын
Colin Pobjoy Have a look at 805RoadKing You Tube channel, he’s an expert with Briggs and Stratton engines.
@tropifiori
@tropifiori 7 жыл бұрын
I am good at quite a lot of things. Small engine work is definetly not one of those things. Kudos to you all.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Frank.
@kevinleetreetimefpv111
@kevinleetreetimefpv111 Жыл бұрын
Great tip on the piston rings. Thx for that.
@autorepairandmore3842
@autorepairandmore3842 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful job and time saving information
@lightshine6044
@lightshine6044 Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me brand and model number of the chainsaw that you are replacing piston?
@GuysPlayingWithTools
@GuysPlayingWithTools 2 жыл бұрын
That piston was definitely beat to death. I use a soda and tie strap the same way, I will have to try it this way next time.
@ForbinColossus
@ForbinColossus 7 жыл бұрын
Love that you did it without those fussy expensive precision measuring tools. I used to work on engines without gloves and clean my hands after with gasoline (it used to smell so much better and be orangey-coloured). I would not do it that way now. Gasoline also worked well to clean roofing tar off hands.
@larryhardin3985
@larryhardin3985 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea. Thanks.
@zapszapper9105
@zapszapper9105 4 жыл бұрын
Which way round and which one on top.???..???
@scottgalbraith3850
@scottgalbraith3850 5 ай бұрын
Amazing video and trick, thank you!
@locouk
@locouk 7 жыл бұрын
Lessons in two stroke lubrication, the expensive way! It’s always handy to know how to strip and reassemble an engine, should the be a next time, the job won’t be nearly as daunting.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
You're right - I learned never trust someone else's mix..
@ellisonrepair
@ellisonrepair 7 жыл бұрын
Out-Takes, They're the reason I don't allow customers to watch over my shoulder. :)
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@Sensei948
@Sensei948 3 жыл бұрын
@@WayOutWestx2 oil mix 1:33 is ok ?
@GaryBoyd02
@GaryBoyd02 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you guys had fun!
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
of course. Life's short - best enjoy as much as we can before it's over
@cpaul1093
@cpaul1093 4 жыл бұрын
How did you get the wrist pin out? THX!
@63256325N
@63256325N 7 жыл бұрын
Nice fix. Thanks for sharing.
@georgesechrest5339
@georgesechrest5339 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea, thanks
@williamolson2441
@williamolson2441 7 жыл бұрын
A bit off topic, but my condolences on the news of Dolores O'Riordan's passing. She was a fantastic and creative artist and one of Ireland's best musicians. I was a bit older when the Cranberries came out - but I 'forced' my young children to listen to them in the car on road trips. A sad day indeed.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
She was another person who's internal anguish came out so clearly in her voice and song-writing. It's not easy being a sensitive human, is it?
@wmo1234
@wmo1234 7 жыл бұрын
I think she is like so many wonderful people, that despite their inner demons they seem to produce such amazing art. Ireland is such a beautiful place with a difficult past that has 'forged' many amazing talents. Its as if the history acts as a crucible where diamonds are made. I think of our Jazz and Rock and Roll music that was "Born" from the African American story in this way. Sorry, I didn't mean to drift too much off topic, but I have a deep reference for that rocky, beautiful emerald green island that is your home. You represent it well Tim!
@thuffman44
@thuffman44 7 жыл бұрын
Nicely done!
@cpaul1093
@cpaul1093 4 жыл бұрын
Nice thanks for the tip!
@awesamness1
@awesamness1 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for the tip!
@chriswalford4161
@chriswalford4161 7 жыл бұрын
You said 'quantum physician' ; healing quanta?
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
You're right, Chris - I thought physician also meant a physics-ian, but it doesn't. So what is the right term?
@orcoastgreenman
@orcoastgreenman 4 жыл бұрын
@@WayOutWestx2 - quantum physicist, though to you, more of a “Quantum Mechanic”
@bluebelle7711
@bluebelle7711 6 жыл бұрын
What saw is that?
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 6 жыл бұрын
Efco, I think
@carpespasm
@carpespasm 7 жыл бұрын
Curious how well your saw will hold up now with the touched-up jug, run-dry needle bearing(s), and basically just a new piston and rings. Common wisdom as I've known it is to pair new jug, rings, and piston, but I suppose it's worth a go as long as the cost is right in it.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
Whatever happens we'll put it down to experience. But so far, so good.
@ShawnMcShane
@ShawnMcShane 4 жыл бұрын
THANNKK YOOU!!!!! !
@AdevăruriIstoriceAscunse
@AdevăruriIstoriceAscunse 7 жыл бұрын
Super! 💚🇬🇧😉
@tanjongboss8276
@tanjongboss8276 5 жыл бұрын
How to repair a tree cutting machine moble block ,
@solidwoods6999
@solidwoods6999 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know Tim , I think Sandra should have purchased a early Valentine day gift of a jug/cylinder for you since you were already in the rebuild mode and it was damaged.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
It may still happen : - )
@pietrocanada
@pietrocanada 4 жыл бұрын
amazing!!!!!
@charleslynch2938
@charleslynch2938 9 ай бұрын
I like that English accent it's jolly good don't you know
@radiodjungli9096
@radiodjungli9096 7 жыл бұрын
Отличное видео, но не подробное. Вы, наверное снимали его, что бы посмеяться?
@garengtutorial8923
@garengtutorial8923 Жыл бұрын
😮😮 mantapp 👍
@shokinkhan2812
@shokinkhan2812 4 жыл бұрын
Listen bro chainsaws original parts please bro I am very difficult problems chain saw Machine please bro
@skipmole612
@skipmole612 3 жыл бұрын
Ah well. In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
@dmunman
@dmunman 7 жыл бұрын
compression was probably poor on an old saw....rebuild was imminent any way. good tip of course. we used cardboard tubes from toilet paper
@TonyWony
@TonyWony 7 жыл бұрын
i see much worst on glow engines
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