A DIY tutorial on making cosplay butted mail. I've had these Knipex mini bolt cutters for 8 years now &recommend them more than ever! www.amazon.com... WiredByFlynn
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@Flynntastic6 жыл бұрын
I would like to thank everyone for the amount of feedback and suggestions on this video! I am starting to make videos again, and will make some additional chain mail videos including all this advice. I like to put out quality videos that are nicely edited so you get the most out of your time watching. If you are interested in helping me, please check out www.patreon.com/Flynntastic
@duncancameron63425 жыл бұрын
You've probably heard this a million times by now, but it's SO much quicker (in my experience) to start out by joining 4 closed rings in one open ring each. Then thread those sets of five into a string, and join multiple strings into a sheet.
@diegozamora7075 жыл бұрын
That's really cool thanks for sharing with us
@dennishermans64095 жыл бұрын
That is the weakest type of chainmail "real chainmail" has closing pins
@dennishermans64095 жыл бұрын
Look at the video of shadiverity
@mikemancuso25264 жыл бұрын
I will do it to protect me against knife attack!...
@midnightgaming42696 жыл бұрын
I had a neighbor who taught me to make chain mail I guaranty you probably know more than me but one piece of advice I took from him is that if you kind of stretch the spring coil you only have to close them not open and close
@whitewolf30514 жыл бұрын
As for functional armor, this butted version is useless. Riveted mail is where it’s at.
@MrDrachnag3 жыл бұрын
@@whitewolf3051 true. But when are we going to fight in it anyway? Some people simply enjoy the crafting itself and don't have the possibility to produce the bolted rings themselves.
@andrewschort7243 жыл бұрын
@@whitewolf3051 with modern technology, if you have the tools, I would opt for links that are welded closed instead.
@ethanelectric10243 жыл бұрын
@@andrewschort724 you could definitely tig weld these but you would need to wear a good respirator and have away to extract the fumes because galvanized metal is bad stuff.
@josephlalonde30043 жыл бұрын
@@ethanelectric1024 If you're going to weld rings closed, I'd have to say screw the potential problems with galvanized and just go stainless.
@Mephiston7 жыл бұрын
bonus hint, before you start cutting the links off the spring, grab either end of the spring and pull, to stretch it out. This creates the gap required to fit the links together and saves time later on.
@beedykh2235 Жыл бұрын
That's a smart move
@paulhorrex181411 ай бұрын
I wouldn't stretch it very much though, or you'll just distort the rings and they will end up misshapen or differing in size. Better to just open them as you need them, so they stay uniform. I found out the hard way.
@Mephiston11 ай бұрын
@@paulhorrex1814 Yeah, good advice, only stretch it out enough to create the gap (about the width of the wire).
@mrmediocre153211 ай бұрын
I used to do this, but ive stopped because they end up getting all tangled in storage and it becomes such a pain to get them untangled
@Mephiston11 ай бұрын
@@mrmediocre1532 Yeah I had that problem too, but I started storing them on small plastic rods and stuff, and made a rack out of it by cutting some notches into some plywood strips.
@AflacMan135 жыл бұрын
It is a good thing to note, that the pattern used here is commonly called the "European 4-in-1" pattern. It is an excellent pattern for learning how to make chain maille and also looks great in finished pieces. It is very common pattern and is one of the easier patterns to pick up and master, and does make for fairly strong weaves of maille. There are stronger and cooler looking patterns, but of course they become more and more complex and complicated the more you add to them. Fantastic tutorial! :-)
@theterminaldave11 ай бұрын
Any suggestions for different types of DIY material?
@BradiKal6111 ай бұрын
@@theterminaldaveSaw a worker at a Renaissance festival who had made his chain link shirt out of lock washers which were probably a little larger than a half inch. I'm guessing that he heated them up to take the temper out of them so that he could bend them to close, otherwise that would have been a lot of work. When I made my shirt I went with a tight ring pattern because I thought it would be more period accurate, but mine might have been a bit tighter than was necessary. The lock washer chainmail shirt didn't look like it offered a lot of protection against arrows or thin blades, but it had a cool visual style.
@Halloween-rf4rw11 ай бұрын
@@theterminaldaveGalvenized electric fence wire is what I used 30 years ago
@deanworrall456711 ай бұрын
@@BradiKal61 i do this at work with 6mm or 8mm spring washers when I'm a bit bored.. you don't really need to take the temper out of the rings, you just have to bend them a little past closed because they spring back a bit..
@misscelinateloexplica10 ай бұрын
This is the best hard-core kniting tutorial. ❤
@BradiKal6111 ай бұрын
I made a chainmail shirt back in the mid 1990's, and there was not really a useful internet back then so I developed the process for myself . i bought a lot of 16 gauge galvanized fence wire and instead of a wooden dowel i used a 1/4" metal rod with a hole drilled in it. I built a cradle for my drill gun out of plywood so i could conteol the trigger with one hand and guide the wire as it wrapped around the rod. For anyone who is going to make rings like this I agree with your suggestion to buy good clippers. Another thing that developed over the hours and hours of cutting the rings was a sore pinky finger from using my finger to manually open the clippers, because the first set I used was not spring loaded to open up ,which I consider essential. I also bought a pair of mini pliers to do my ring bending. I did not build my chainmail on a rod, i just held it. Early on it was exciting to see how fast the piece of chainmail grew, but over time each link adds a smaller and smaller percentage to the sheet, And you need patience to keep going until you're finished. To this day I don't know how I got the armpits as good as I did on my chainmail shirt. One side looks better than the other but I can't day how that happened. I tried the shirt on for the first time in over a dozen years and I find that for some reason it seems to have shrunk and is now tight. Just one of those miracles of nature that we're not meant to understand
@yepiratesworkshop79975 ай бұрын
IT's that damned galvanized fence wire. I've used tons of it for fencing in the horses over the years and I think it shrinks and snaps once in awhile. I know the horses couldn't be doing it. They'd never do anything like stretch their heads and necks out under it so hard that it'd stretch and snap as they they tried getting at that 'greener' grass on the other side of the fence. Naw. It has to be some kind of flaw in the steel wire.
@manchu60053 ай бұрын
My kilt did the same thing. Weird how inanimate object take on a life of their own.🇺🇸⚔️🇬🇪
@bop52772 ай бұрын
Could you please give me a link for the spring loaded clippers? thanks:)
@-sturmfalke-Ай бұрын
@@bop5277 From what he is saying, he bought them some 30 years ago, and the internet wasn't really that useful back then. He might not have a link. You can easily modify pliers though, a simple flat piece of springy metal, bend it enough so it could push both parts of the handle fully apart, and somhow fix it to one of them. You can go further on this concept, but this is the simplest solution.
@sharonrigs799910 ай бұрын
A mail shirt is perfect for those rides on NYC transit!
@FrankieAmadeian.3 жыл бұрын
Oh, boy! Now I can go die to a Norseman's axe in Hastings wearing my very own chainmail!
@666kuzya6664 ай бұрын
I used to do chainmail key chains on sale. One optimisation I found pretty quickly: 1) bend a peace of wire 150% of diameter of the wire to L shape. 2) put one end of the L inside the "spring" 3) start screwing the other side of the L through the coils of the "spring" 4) then cut the rings The L creates the gaps in the rings - big enough to easily join the rings together. You'll save much time on that - no need to bend the rings twice (1st to create a gap, 2nd to bind the ends together). Good luck!
@lmyrna8 жыл бұрын
You make it look easy. Love that rod idea. Just wanted to mention that if you stretch your spring before you cut the jump rings, you end up with open jump rings so you don't have to open all those rings.
@warlord60210 жыл бұрын
You're the first person, other than me, I've seen do it this way. I think it is the fastest way compared to what I've seen others do. I used the same wire and fought in the SCA wearing this armor. Butted links do come apart, so I had to occasionally replace some. Not as many as you would think. I also used 6 to 1, and 8 to 1 patterns for other parts of my armor. I never had any trouble with loosing these rings. When I joined the ends of the links together, I would usually give a couple extra twist back and forth. This seemed to make the rings flatter, and also gave a little bit of hardening to the mettle.
@Flynntastic2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice!
@CookieDynamics9 жыл бұрын
I have absolutely zero interest in ever making a chain mail, but I still enjoyed this video from beginning to end. Great upload!
@whitewolf30514 жыл бұрын
You enjoy the making of useless except at LARP armor? If this person showed how to rivet mail into armor for historic re-enactments, it would’ve been better.
@brothertitan95163 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, this is a life saver in Britain from frequent chav attacks.
@nickstein31292 жыл бұрын
Pro tip! Weave elastic Paracord through the parts you want tight. Making sure to give it some slack. That way it always fits and doesn't bunch up and pinch
@Flynntastic2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to give that a try!
@Eugensson11 күн бұрын
I have discovered the same method with my brother when we were about 12 years old fiddling around in our granddad's workshop. The idea is a no brainer, and most likely was used in the middle ages.
@borbleborb4586 Жыл бұрын
I’m working on a punk jacket currently, and my biggest fear is getting shanked at a concert. This tutorial definitely helps since I’ve been wanting to stab-proof my jacket for a while!
@Flynntastic Жыл бұрын
You will need to rivet or weld your links closed if you want it to function as armor.
@MK-lk7nc Жыл бұрын
hello from 2023 - thanks for this video it helped me. I've only made a small patch of chainmail so far and it took forever but it's really satisfying.
@warlord6029 жыл бұрын
Wow. Someone that makes chainmail the way I do. I usually use a hanger rather than a rod to work on. The flexing seems to make things easier. I have gotten to the point that I use those pliers like a second pair of hands. My hands never release the grips. Pick up a link with one plier, and with the help of a finger from the other hand, slide the ring into place. Over time you learn to do this quite fast. This method is especially best if you plan to do 6 or even 8 to 1 mail.
@tadpole532 жыл бұрын
The "think smarter not harder" gene is working at 200% with this one.
@Flynntastic2 жыл бұрын
That's so nice!
@catrinafairlady84049 жыл бұрын
I have been doing chain mail for years and fought with it on the table. The rod is a fantastic idea that I cannot wait to try. Hopefully it works just as well with smaller rings. Thank you so much.
@beepbeep8019 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! My gosh do people overcomplicate chainmail tutorials, but not this one. Very much appreciated.
@Flynntastic Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@vijayeschbach36182 жыл бұрын
I am brand new at making chainmail, and this is one of the most helpful tutorials I've seen so far.
@origamikira8 жыл бұрын
One ring to rule them all...
@christopherkatz94848 жыл бұрын
or 50,000 rings...
@Alduinything6 жыл бұрын
and in the darkness binds them
@user-jh9nx6tl1n5 жыл бұрын
One ring to find them One ring to bring them all And in the darkness bind them
@dwightschrute38623 жыл бұрын
Thousands of rings to rule them all
@xxdustinadamsxx3 жыл бұрын
😂
@Saskia_vm4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have been stuck on several other tutorials. I'm trying to make chainmail shoulders for my boyfriends cosplay. I have much smaller rings then you, but the technique is the same. I kept getting mixed up. They are now on a tiny wooden skewer and that helps. I found it hard to start on the third row, but once going it can be so fast :D So thx :)
@Flynntastic4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it worked for you!
@kevingreen8763Ай бұрын
Learned how to make chainmail back in the late 80's. We used a large bolt and cut a groove in it to hold the wire and used heavy weight coat hanger wire. We also fed the wire through two pieces of wood chucked up in a vice to keep high tension on the wire while you spun it up on the bolt using a drill.
@FlynntasticАй бұрын
That's a good tip! Thank you
@sebastianpowell46706 жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear. Shaft stuck in drill
@DrunkenDarkSoul5 жыл бұрын
LMAO, if this happens to anyone else use a adjustable pliers to release. wood shaft sometimes gets compressed in drill teeth/mouth and is akward to let go of bit or in this case the wooden shaft. use metal rod in place of wood if available
@alexandergeppert31745 жыл бұрын
@@DrunkenDarkSoul I think it was a dick joke
@AlphaFatti5 жыл бұрын
@@DrunkenDarkSoul it's a play on the joke "Instructions unclear, dick stuck it ceiling fan."
@AflacMan135 жыл бұрын
Wrong shaft dude. ;-P
@daylenhigman86804 жыл бұрын
That's how she likes it
@timexyemerald629011 ай бұрын
man, the little helping hand guy needs a raise
@Flynntastic11 жыл бұрын
All you need is a rod to wrap the wire around, a cutter, and 2 pairs of pliers. The drill makes winding the wire allot faster.
@DangStank11 ай бұрын
I hope the smiths who had to make this stuff were compensated handsomely
@kassidyquinn420 Жыл бұрын
You rock! I was wanting to make some chain mail for a few cosplays and this pattern you are using seems the most beginner friendly, and you explained it very well. Very concise and to the point so things don't get too confusing. thanks! 🖤
@brucehartweg494611 ай бұрын
Your doing more work than you need. You are closing every row. If you add pre-closed links as you go, you only need to weave every other row. That is you have closed links on row one (on your rod) then as you add a link across the first two rings starting row 2, also add two more closed rings as the start of row three. Then with each link, you link the two links on top ro, the one link from row 3, and add one more closed ring. That way, every link you are closing is closing in all 4 of its final rings. You method is only closing in 2 rings at a time so you are closing twice as many rings. (Of course, you still are closing the rings initially, just not as you are working on a sheet.
@SwearMY11 ай бұрын
Nice tutorial! I do a similar process but with sterling silver for jewelry. Making it from a hanging starter row works so well.
@adammoore2516 жыл бұрын
Its amazing that in medieval times that they could even make steel wire.
@sulkingsalamander61815 жыл бұрын
Actual mail was made of pretty much small metal riveted shut not butted wire
@bignick24885 жыл бұрын
Well metals are ductile (can be spun into wire) and wire is pretty easy to make so they probably wouldn't have had much trouble
@littleworldkanthima59494 жыл бұрын
@@bignick2488 I agree
@aarondavis75263 жыл бұрын
You can also cast rods but that's hard
@Crotaro14 күн бұрын
It's amazing how ingenius people were with the tools they had at the time. Here's a great demonstration of how drawing wire most likely worked in medieval times kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmGci56bfpijsJo Edit: You can get the initial approximation of a wire shape just by carefully cutting and then hammering an iron ingot. After that, you can start getting an actually round wire by drawing it through the pattern.
@ben-me9jyАй бұрын
That is awesome to watch. Thank you Sarah I appreciate your time and effort.
@GodsPoisonSamael3 жыл бұрын
A simple and cleanly done tutorial, just what I was looking for. Planning on making a chainmail vest for cosplay but I'm gonna use keyrings as the links instead, can buy bulk bags online so I just needed a method of assembling them and here I am! Thanks again-
@MyCommentsRMaturelol2 жыл бұрын
omg I love this idea
@MyCommentsRMaturelol2 жыл бұрын
I'm in a frenzy right now looking for gold colored ones that won't let a 3/8" rod fit through, because larp rules so hype so hype
@GodsPoisonSamael2 жыл бұрын
@@MyCommentsRMaturelol as of right now my project is about 90% finished, I had to order more rings to add some additional length but the basic idea worked great!
@michaelmccoy1794 Жыл бұрын
Isn't cosplay like the only thing BUTTED mail is good for? If you want reliable functionality you need RIVETED mail, don't you?
@addeum776611 ай бұрын
@@michaelmccoy1794butted mail isn't that protective against stabbing, as weapons will just push the ends of the link away from each other, but against slashes, the difference would be barely noticeable unless you are planing to saw away at a single spot or bash at it repeatedly.
@MikeS-um1nm4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely gorgeous! I made some fairly convincing mail, using rings, cut from small diameter PVC pipe, about one eighth of an inch thick, and used "The Chopper" (a plastic model builder's tool) to make a straight cut through each link, and wove them together, into mail, exactly as shown here. The result was pretty nice, good enough for me, but NOT as convincing as THIS! I made MY mail, to represent mail on a video game character's costume. THIS mail looks exactly like the REAL THING! I'd love to find the time (and a good reason) to make THIS type of mail. GREAT job!! Absolutely spot on !!!
@53prime5 жыл бұрын
I used 3/8" mild steel stock - small hole to hold the wire on one end and ground some flats on the drill end. No problems with the dowel crushing or getting pinched by the wire. A 3 ft piece of stock is like 4 bucks. Totally worth it if you want to do this.
@TheBradinator21410 ай бұрын
I remember finding this video around 10 years ago after seeing some chainmail my friend had made. Ended up making myself a shirt and started on a headpiece. Maybe I'll finish it one day
@pietrosmusi634811 ай бұрын
"I place my shaft into the drill" That's going to hurt😅
@mmiYTB10 ай бұрын
The rod is an interesting idea, but when I did mine about 20 years ago, I started first with a lot of closed rings, and then I put 4 closed rings onto open one and I closed it. Made a lot of these quadruple/quintuplets (I guess they can be called both ways) which I then interconnected into the chainmail. I did the stretching of the "spring" like was recommended below, but I used sheet metal cutter (did one big armor - separate coif, long sleeves, down under as long as knees, about 45000 rings and the cutter held). It made much cleaner (flatter) cut. Quite a lot of the pre-stretched rings gained some tension and if the ends of the ring were cut in such a way that they basically aligned when closed, the gap became almost invisible with the ring ends slightly tensioned against each other.
@Error-54786 жыл бұрын
Why wear chainmail when you can use your dex or con modifier to have more ac?
@jamesm7835 жыл бұрын
because some of use want to bust action surge out with with 4 attacks per turn, and battlemaster manuvers on top of that
@DennisMHenderson5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesm783 yap plaus stonecold saidso
@comfortzoneinvader9615 жыл бұрын
I just cast shield and I'm ok
@dawsynp-b41035 жыл бұрын
Came here looking for that comment
@jarredelijah68035 жыл бұрын
Maybe that's expensive? all I can afford is that plies. I don't know how much for the metal wire
@yurygomez1409 Жыл бұрын
Very impress, how you have made chain male something I could try doing. I use to be left hander and I can't no longer use my left arm properly. The tools you use have given me ideas. Thank you very much. I'm a collector of antique arms and armour. So I love this .🏴
@Kalobeify8 жыл бұрын
DO NOT USE A WOODEN ROD!!!! it shrinks! for less than 5$ you can get a steel rod or alluminum rod that actually works consistently!
@bashkillszombies6 жыл бұрын
I was worried more about the fucking galvanized wire. Soon as you anneal that shit you're going to have burning fucking lungs and if you're unlucky end up dead.
@Antiganos5 жыл бұрын
From what I see here, this is purely aesthetic armor, in other words, you shouldn't attempt to anneal/harden it/temper it because it's not meant for use, and likely isn't made of the proper steel either.
@axslaps5 жыл бұрын
Where did you find these magical metals that are immune to wear!?
@azminek71545 жыл бұрын
@@Antiganos Yeah, if the end of the rings aren't closed it's purely aesthetic and won't offer much protection. Historical chain mail had riveted rings so they won't open up from a thrust. A mail like the one in the video is only good if you want to die stylishly. Though a cheaply made mail like this might be a decent supplement for gambeson to further improve on protection against slices. Though you would always wear a chain mail with gambeson anyways.
@johnschmidt21235 жыл бұрын
bashpr0mpt why would you anneal it? That would just soften it and ruin the zinc coating. It is getting work hardening with the cold working. Though as it is only show mail it doesn’t matter. And Zinc oxide is dangerous but you just need ventilation or a respirator.
@samsoncrosswood72595 жыл бұрын
It’s 2018, you don’t have to. Still, cool that people still, centuries after it’s usefulness, can make it and make money doing it. And the patience...
@xh73856 жыл бұрын
Why don't scientists invent an automatic chainmail knitting machine?
@TheSunnyTrails6 жыл бұрын
Because guns
@lamefire96 жыл бұрын
cuz it'd be a really complicated and precise machine for making something with not many modern uses
@tophatbandit5806 жыл бұрын
First off, sciencetis wouldn't design a machine, an engineer would. Secondly making mail (chain mail isn't an historical thing) is a bit more complex than making a cloth garment. Sure it needs to be tailored but combining each ring into a specific pattern and then riveting them together. (proper mail is rivited or solid rings and rivited rings are used) the mail in the video isn't rivited or solid. That mail is only good for larping and nothing else. That mail will never stand up to any combat or training use.
@RottenRogerDM6 жыл бұрын
There was a patent for a mail making machine. Around the 1920. Used about 4 rolls of wire to feed the machine. I have not been able to find the patent number.
@xh73856 жыл бұрын
Thanks pal. I just KNEW it!
@NY118089 жыл бұрын
This is the best guide for getting started weaving chain mail - in my opinion
@johnschmidt21235 жыл бұрын
Used to do this when I was a kid. This is actually just show mail. Real mail has an overlapping portion that is flattened, pierced and fastened with a small river. But I’m sure you know.
@TheSavageBountyHunter6 жыл бұрын
Just to think how many hours those types of processes took back when there was no home depot or Walmart.. Makes you thankful for all we have today..
@GoesTo113 жыл бұрын
Really great video showing how to make chainmail, thank you for sharing! It would take quite a while to make a full piece but definitely would be cool to have!!
@lukashawthorne76084 ай бұрын
Using a rod to hold the rings took this from a hobby I was struggling to getting going and let me turn out a fully fabricated piece in half an hour! Just a small piece, but it's a very encouraging start. Thanks for sharing this, it's a game-changer
@jimbob996310 ай бұрын
Its not super important for mail armor, but the gaps in the rings can get caught on clothes and hair fairly easily, so I would either saw the rings, as opposed to clipping, or bend them shut, especially for jewelry.
@oejlen Жыл бұрын
When you add an open ring, add a closed aswell. Makes it go faster when making full suits of armour.
@Flynntastic Жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@Ladle663 жыл бұрын
Alright, but how do i enchant it.
@Flynntastic3 жыл бұрын
You coat with the milkings of an ancient Chinese chirapsia house?
@LokarofWS7 жыл бұрын
After many failed attempts from other video's and instructions, this is the first one I found that made it easy! THANKS!
@monsterbash97585 жыл бұрын
This is a very efficient way of making butted mail but it should be noted that butted mail would make garbage armor that can be torn apart bare-handed. If you're looking to make quality mail you have to rivet each link closed, which takes considerably more time and skill.
@skydog22 Жыл бұрын
What kind of bare hands do you have?
@77gravity8 жыл бұрын
If you grip the ring to be added with the pliers, before you thread it through the two links, you will save a lot of time and fumbling. :)
@SwordGuardian10 ай бұрын
Reminds me a lot of knitting... especially the whole "several hours to get a few inches" part! XD Anything worth doin is worth doin right, though.
@xsteamyx97418 жыл бұрын
Haha I'm sorry but "Place my shaft in my drill and tight it down" haha sounds painful
@fabiandeijle23307 жыл бұрын
Whatever floats your boat lol
@Maleficent___6 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment that and then I saw yours hahaha
@Flynntastic6 жыл бұрын
It's good training ;)
@spaaggetii6 жыл бұрын
Simple things amuse simple people I guess.
@firespark70925 жыл бұрын
@@spaaggetii wow. You must be super refined if youre posting on KZbin that people are simple for finding something funny.
@oon86110 жыл бұрын
Its really the perfect way to make an easy chain mail
@CassidyDrew133 жыл бұрын
Why is this so satisfying 😂
@christiandeuctor36065 жыл бұрын
Just do /give fire and then put it in the crafting bench.
@alexissavage78155 жыл бұрын
Lol
@bluefire-ph8ln4 жыл бұрын
Well if you started the world with alloe cheats off just go to lan settings hit allow cheats on and then start lan world lol
@dss-homemadestuff85809 ай бұрын
I wanted to make a chaimail armor... and looked on youtube to find out how to start. This video popped up, and it was the start for me. Nice and simple. 👍
@Flynntastic9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ThStargateatlantis9 жыл бұрын
You make it look soooo easy! This is a really helpful video, thank you!
@binnurduman351010 ай бұрын
the best and easiest video i ever watch about this topic. thank you so much
@silverstacker9999 жыл бұрын
Nerds: *Heavy breathing*
@322doug8 жыл бұрын
lol
@velazquezarmouries7 жыл бұрын
silverstacker999 medieval reenactors that is botted mail
@user-sn4fm2uh7f6 жыл бұрын
**inhales** *B O I*
@JoeXTheXJuggalo16 жыл бұрын
silverstacker999 alright calm down Ogre
@imasspeons6 жыл бұрын
Not really. It's just butted mail he's making, which is garbage for anything other than appearances. It doesn't have a great deal of strength. Nice, neat job, though.
@TheDoof19 жыл бұрын
Wow, you saved me a ton of time! I was doing things a lot slower. And I noticed the end result is still a 4-in-1 weave. Thanks!
@Cloudii_999 Жыл бұрын
Wait this is so much less complicated than I thought. I’ve got to try this
@LordKaos6664 жыл бұрын
Lovely....some stuff to do in these days :D Thanks for the video.
@jacobbordeaux882011 жыл бұрын
This actually is the best guide I've seen for this.
@LongAct9410 жыл бұрын
Wait i insert my shaft on the drill?
@richfost68525 жыл бұрын
This aged so well lol
@kewheeler457310 жыл бұрын
I've seen all the videos that make groups of five and put them together and can never get any of the fives to join! This made so much more sense. I spent 1/2 an hour and actually had something other than a mess to show for it! Though hubby prefers a metal rod instead of a dowel to make his rings and he cuts them with his Dremel on another metal rod. Makes for more even cuts - is easier on his hands than cutting each ring - and the metal rods don't crush like a wooden one might so the inside diameter doesn't change.. But thanks so much for the hanging method. Made it so much easier for me to 'see' the pattern!
@الثعلب-المكار4 жыл бұрын
Gangs need it cuz it is anti stabbing !
@claytonstill23856 жыл бұрын
Your level of patience is admirable for sure. Nice work
@DaedalusProps7 жыл бұрын
I giggled like a jackass when he said he placed his shaft into a drill. Christ, I'm fucking 12
@standemlgboieeey63666 жыл бұрын
DaedalusProps im 13 believe me it gets worse
@benjaminrapp74183 жыл бұрын
Watch your language, young man! 😉
@DaedalusProps3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminrapp7418 UR NOT MY REAL DAD >8C
@benjaminrapp74183 жыл бұрын
@@DaedalusProps And? Lol
@Xerdoz7 жыл бұрын
Props for using Knipex pliers. Quality stuff.
@sixgunsam798 жыл бұрын
I don't think I'd want to place my shaft into an electric drill... But that's just me. ;-) Thanks for the tutorial, though. Great job.
@mabs95038 жыл бұрын
+Hannibal Lechter You should at least slide some links onto your rod though.
@IvantheFuriousMCAndMore6 жыл бұрын
Real mature...
@lindapasquali26705 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video as it helped me understand how to make a chain maille scrubber for my cast iron pots and pans. Thank you for sharing this info!
@user-ky9sq8sy8k7 жыл бұрын
Has anyone in the comments already mentioned about this mail been more decorative, then defending?
@Matt-dy7uq7 жыл бұрын
Владимир Баскаков that's probably because mail is no longer effective in combat, so it's probably for costumes.
@berend38937 жыл бұрын
Владимир Баскаков it't butted not rivited
@user-ky9sq8sy8k7 жыл бұрын
Berend Dovakhiin and Nova I was talking particulalry about butted mail, since this is the type of mail shown on this video.
@UndeadCrabstick7 жыл бұрын
True, butted mail falls apart easily when hit with a weapon. It's best to use riveted mail for reenactment.
@MrPanos20007 жыл бұрын
Nova It wouldn't be good back then either, its costume armour butted maille
@mika475928 күн бұрын
I love you The only guide that made sense to me when it comes to making chainmail out of split rings Thank you thank you thank you :3
@Flynntastic26 күн бұрын
I'm glad I could help!
@beeer4217 жыл бұрын
can this stop rounds from a plasma rifle in the 40 watt range?
@denisl27607 жыл бұрын
40 watts is not nearly enough to make plasma
@blackg00766 жыл бұрын
a black powder musket will make a nice hole in it , no need for high tech lol
@tophatbandit5806 жыл бұрын
"Hey just what you see pal"
@tophatbandit5806 жыл бұрын
@@denisl2760 it's a movie reference but clearly you didn't watch the terminator
@bignick24885 жыл бұрын
Mail is actually really good at redirecting electricity safely around your body so if you were in a full suit with no skin not covered you'd be able to stand lightning
@angraciagrampon7240 Жыл бұрын
I love this video and I am glad to see someone explain it from the start.
@alexpiggford27576 жыл бұрын
It's really funny all the "experts" in the comments, telling us what we already know about butted and riveted mail. Guys, I don't think anyone watching this video planned on going to war in this. 😂
@BurntwolfAirsoft6 жыл бұрын
you mean where not a war with france?....dam :p
@Zwei-II6 жыл бұрын
Whe Have to take Jerusalem
@WildGans916 жыл бұрын
Dude I was thinking about pillaging churches in England :D
@salifford6 жыл бұрын
incorrect! i WAS!
@nachtkind466 жыл бұрын
I could go for some pillaging.
@shimonkahloun98047 жыл бұрын
although you did it in the old fashion way. I must salute you for your way of explaining and your camera work with your understandable video. Thank you so very much looking forward to see more of your work
@herpderp16626 жыл бұрын
Used to do this in my free time in HS before youtube even existed. Made a winder with metal dowel rods of different diameters, a drill. Dikes, 2 needle nose. Pro tip, dont use wood as it compresses and the rings can be SLIGHTLY different diameter after 20 or so coils. Making the mail is easy as fuck, it just takes forever. Recommend starting with 4 in 1 or 6 in 1 european. Any retard can figure it out. Hard parts when you get to seems or the under side of arm holes. Also make sure when you hold the ring to bend it with the pliers you have 1 covering one HALF and the other covering the other HALF. This prevents warp and ensures every ring is perfectly flat. This separates noob mail from quality. Having every single ring exactly uniform is actually important. Then heat treat the whole thing or if you wanna go full retard contact weld each ring. Fence wire is great to practice with but it makes absolute garbage product even if heat treated. Its butter steal. Stainless is hard to work with and expensive but makes crazy nice weave. Aluminium if your a larptard, as most are weak and will appriciate the extreme weight reduction. But if you want bad ass, titanium wire. Costs a lot, is a bitch to wind, cut, and bend. But with some skill and patience makes top tier results. Light, strong, easy to heat color, and corrosion resistant.
@Flynntastic6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the input! a solid rod is better, I only had the wood dowel when I made the video.
@mycreations3182 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing! What a phenomenal idea. You are very talented and I very much appreciate you sharing your creativity.❤❤
@chrismclean56734 жыл бұрын
Minecraft be lying to us
@jesterthezombie95973 жыл бұрын
Ultimate respect to anyone who has the patience to make a full suit of this. I attempted it. After like 5 hours I had a 10”x10” sheet and was just like “Naaaaa bro I don’t have the mental fortitude for this shit” xD
@Smenchevieve Жыл бұрын
Try watching an anime or something while you work. Makes the time go faster and makes time spent watching anime feel productive :D
@الثعلب-المكار4 жыл бұрын
Is aluminum stab proof ?! I hope someone test that ..
@Hadras70943 жыл бұрын
This mail in particular it's not.
@الثعلب-المكار3 жыл бұрын
@@Hadras7094 ok but I mean aluminum sheet .. for example 2mm
@Hadras70943 жыл бұрын
@@الثعلب-المكار I don't know then. Sorry.
@radsnake33567 жыл бұрын
tin snips work surprisingly well for cutting through the wire
@jpavlvs7 жыл бұрын
You get a cleaner cut when you saw the links and a half inch is too big a ring. I use 16 gage wire and wind it over a steel mandrel 3/8" in diameter. Bend the mandrel so there's a crank. You have to make a jig to hold and turn it. Don't use a power drill to wind because you're bound to injure yourself. I tried it and injured myself. After I saw the rings free of the 'spring' I close a bunch then take a bunch and open them. I put 4 closed rings into one and close it. I like needle nose pliers for this. You never touch the rings with your fingers when you weave them together. I also like a flat board to weave the shirt on. I think you can control it easier.
@no-oneshome30837 жыл бұрын
jpavlvs quick Google to see what 3/8 inch is in mm, use mm in England. is 9.5mm (3/8) quite big ring size? I was going to use 8mm (5/16) or even 6mm (15/64 - 1/4) inner diameter. with 16 guage wire.
@Draug07 жыл бұрын
I've made two whole vests worth of rings winding them with a drill and I've never injured myself. I wear leather work gloves and use controlled drill speeds and it has never felt like they were going to get caught. Though I used a steel bar rather than dowel. I used 12 gage wire even.
@blackg00766 жыл бұрын
I have made a few suits of mail , one halburk and 5 byrnies and 5 coifs . all my rings have been hand rolled on a steel rod bent into crank. i have cut them with a saw and bolt cutters , bolt cutters are quicker but a saw is cleaner edge cut. i agree make daisy's, then into daisy chains and then patches etc. this method flynn uses is alright for small bits but not needed for large mail construction. Riveted mail is great for Hysterical fanatics but for most re en-actors it is fine to use butted mail . there are many methods of making rings , find one that your happy with enough said.
@nuparadigm44196 жыл бұрын
jpavlvs The problem with sawing rings is the kerf increases when you decrease your ring ID. Smaller rings end up distorted and this creates warp in the weave. Sawing links can also be very time consuming as compared to using nippers. However, the finished product certainly looks much cleaner as long as the ID:kerf ratio is correct.
@Trollioli11 ай бұрын
0:29 "I place my shaft inside the drill, tighten it down" HGNNNNNNNN
@TJS34 жыл бұрын
"put in one ring", nice try Sauron!
@Wow-xi3xz7 күн бұрын
I used split key rings and 2 hooks on my ceiling to make my vest
@Serkanbah9 жыл бұрын
4 in 1 method faster i think.
@theodormazilu68339 жыл бұрын
not really faster, I am working on a pice right now. After a month I got somethiong like 4000-4500 rings done, it is starting to look like and armour. But a 4 in 1 or 6 in 1 piece is much more dense and doesn`t look like you could tear it apart with you bare hands. Anyway, it might by that I work slower because of school and can only work on the piece maybe 10-15 h a week weekends included.
@patrickhodson87157 жыл бұрын
This _is_ 4 in 1, isn't it?
@Draug07 жыл бұрын
I think what he means is that this guy is starting with one row of closed links and then he just keeps adding open links. Instead of doing it that way, you can add another row of closed links while you are adding a row if open links.
@Draug07 жыл бұрын
Or maybe what he actually means is to make little squares by connecting four closed links with one open link and then connecting those squares together with open links. I think the way I described doing it is even better than that though. I start with one "4 in 1" square and keep adding two closed links with one open link to make a strip as wide as I want. then I start a row underneath connecting two closed with one open and continue on after by connecting one closed with open down the whole strip to the end, connecting them all in the "4 in 1" pattern. Kind of like knitting.
@JoeXTheXJuggalo16 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip on how to make the rings. Cheaper and easier than buying just the rings online.
@kingwacky1847 жыл бұрын
Great guide I would have made the rings smaller tho, i know it is only for show not to fight real battle lol but still if the rings are to big the tip of a pointed sword can get in to those rings and then you are pretty much fucked.
@przemysawlib43096 жыл бұрын
Nope. Even tinny, tinny overlapping rings with this technique would be ineffective against sword, spear, arrow or even peasant fork. On impact some of the force would "push" forward, but some would spread sideways trying to break the ring. If ends of the ring aren't "tied" together, and impact will break those rings. So sword, spear, arrow, fork would "make" holes on impact. It's that ineffective as a armor. That's also why mail used in Europe for over a 1000 years was riveted or otherwise tied.
@MrBottlecapBill6 жыл бұрын
Bows predate swords and armour. Trust me they used bows. In fact the earliest types of armour were specifically designed to protect against arrows almost exclusively. If you meant mounted Knights didn't use bows in battle then you're correct. They were fired on by archers constantly though, which is why in the age of mail shields were still very important. However good tight riveted mail, combined with a thick gambeson is still pretty effective at making arrows far less lethal should they squeek past your shield defence. Or course not effective enough, hence the development of plate armours. Bows and crossbows were mandatory battlefield equipment until the age of gun powder really took off.
@bendeguzcsoka38906 жыл бұрын
Toyja Kelley LMAO pls tell me you're not trying to be serious XD
@bendeguzcsoka38906 жыл бұрын
King Wacky that's why the real thing was riveted and not just pushed together.
@ralphh41314 жыл бұрын
knipex. nice. i want a pair of knipex cutters so bad. i wish my gf knew about tools lol. so she could buy me some for xmas.
@iliesebowman37810 жыл бұрын
Seems tedious, having to manually open all those individual links at the beginning of your process. Why don't you wind TWO wires around the dowel (alongside each other) as you are making the initial coil? You might need to cut them as you're in the process of sliding them off the dowel... or maybe you'll be able to pull them both off, and handle the two interwoven coils as easily as you handled one...(?) I've never tried it, but it does seem viable; and if it works, each link would (by definition) be open exactly the width of one wire as you cut it off its respective coil. That should save a ton of annoyingly tedious prep time. Would love to know whether this works for you!
@Flynntastic10 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing! Unfortunately the wire I was using is too hard to wrap 2 strands at the same time. I've learned allot since I made this video and will have a new and improved one out in a few weeks! Thank you!
@GetReal3810 жыл бұрын
clever! if small vary in AR doesn't matter, then that would be fine. coiling to strands at the same time means you'll have twice the resistance in coiling. not a big deal unless you are coiling tempered stainless steel which I use a lot of... just made a 28lb 16ga 3/8"ID HP3in1 sheet 6 shirt! i just pulled the spring apart a bit more the width of gauge before cutting to pre open half the rings.
@warlord6029 жыл бұрын
One method I saw used was that after the coil is made pull it out of shape a bit. Takes longer to cut the links because you'll be able to only cut like one at a time. But I think opening every link would take much longer.
@blackg00766 жыл бұрын
lol just one of the suits i made had 22000 rings in it.
@suoppsdn97516 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I really appreciate the effort you put forth to describe how Chainmail goes together.
@OskoreiMick9 жыл бұрын
not riveted not armour. good for cheap costumes but thats about it
@SidewaysGts9 жыл бұрын
OskoreiMick For what its worth, butted mail was used by a few places historicall. Japan for example was well known for making common use of butted mail. Amusingly enough, japan if i recall actually had more "styles" and patterns of mail than the rest of the world. Combined. Though theres probably a reason for this.
@OskoreiMick9 жыл бұрын
SidewaysGts there have been some finds of butted mail used in Japan, but even they used riveted most of the time. Even welded was used more then butted. off all the finds we have of real mail butted is a very small percentage of it. the reason is that butted falls apart to quickly. due to being an open ring is lacks strength. due to this you have to use a heavier gauge of wire to make the rings which then makes the mail heavier. my 1st set of mail was made with butted rings and weighted 22.5kgs. i then upgraded to a riveted set and it weights a bit under 10kgs. and it is much stronger due to the links being riveted together and yes they did use other "styles" and patterns then the standard 4-in-1. such as the chains used in the Kote, Haidate and suneate.
@SidewaysGts9 жыл бұрын
OskoreiMick "there have been some finds of butted mail used in Japan, but even they used riveted most of the time." *Some* finds? Im sorry. But im going to have to disagree, strongly. Japan did indeed make some use of riveted mail, but saying they used riveted mail "most" of the time is a bit dubious to the best of my knowledge- And i would absolutely LOVE some of your sources that drew you to this. To my knowledge, japan was one of the few culutures in the world to make *wide* use of butted mail. There links were commonly butted, or twisted. Sometiems the end of the link would be twisted closed- Sometimes the links were multiple loops (each link was actually a couple of spirals). Etc. i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz238/estcrh/samurai%20chainmail%20and%20armor%20samples/100_3328.jpg s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e1/ba/be/e1babe767b31ac32be85d5720ff0002a.jpg en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/75/Kusari_examples.JPG en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/75/Kusari_tabi.JPG media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/45/67/8e/45678e956b90bb9d2be958527b096e05.jpg media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/1c/91/53/1c91536aa55039da727435084f26326b.jpg media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/45/85/a6/4585a6448ed787d72d55de91d28c5842.jpg These three are all from the same piece, showing their construction a bit more clearly as they continue: www.sarworter.achim-und-kai.de/MA_JMRP/10-03-25_kote_027.JPG www.sarworter.achim-und-kai.de/MA_JMRP/10-03-25_kote_014.JPG www.sarworter.achim-und-kai.de/MA_JMRP/10-03-25_kote_030a.JPG (Showing how they used different styles of links) Somewere even quite decorative, with external links made of brass media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/23/18/cc/2318cc786106761254822056e1e78ce9.jpg Another good example here: s831.photobucket.com/user/estcrh/media/samurai%20chainmail%20and%20armor%20samples/100_6954.jpg.html This gentleman actually has a LOT of japanese mail armors cataloged, and his gallery alone is worth a look. I can do this for days. These are hardly "cherry picked". Armors of these types were *very* common throughout japan, for a lot of its history. "the reason is that butted falls apart to quickly. due to being an open ring is lacks strength." Yes and no. its worth pointing out japan was quite tricky in how they constructed their butted mail. Their mail was notoriously butted, but beause of its construction, even in europe, it was known to be quite strong: *A Glossary of the Construction, Decoration and Use of Arms and Armor: In All Countries and in All Times: George Cameron Stone* Page 424: "(On japanese mail) made of uniriveted links, but the wire is very hard and highly tempered so that the mail is as strong as the riveted. The links are frequently made of coils of two or three turns, giving the effect of two or three links side by side... Such mail is quite as strong as any riveted" The author also goes on to talk about the commonality of butted mail in japan, and continues to compare it briefly to european mail. But you get the idea. I readily admit that I may be wrong- It may simply be a coincidence that the vast majority of historical examples I have seen, either in pictures, or from galleries in museums around the world, or what i have had the pleasure of seeing first hand at exhibits, and what ive primarily read about, have largely been butted. But I hope youll excuse my skepticism to claims on the contrary. I could care less about being "right" and would love to know the truth- But I hope you dont mind if I ask for a source so that the next time this topic comes up I have a reasonable reference (or references) instead of "some guy on youtube said...". Cheers and thanks :)
@PatheticApathetic9 жыл бұрын
You want cheap costuming, use the method they did on the Lord of the Rings films. Slice up a plastic tube
@Mushnp8 жыл бұрын
+OskoreiMick Why do people say this? Do you plan on getting into bladed combat any time soon? What a fucking pointless statement.