HUGE BUFFS AND NERFS in World of Tanks!

[@casuscnactus4864]

So the Foch will be the new OP flavour of the month TD and a few months later it will be nerfed below the previous level.

[@siuprizas]

sad but truth

[@derrickstorm6976]

Foch's problem was always penetration, side armor, and the rangefinder weakspot on top, and they didn't touch any of those

[@alexxu3004]

what about foch 155.....

[@deadarashi6462]

what about the FV215b

[@ricsisallai8786]

Sadly wot is filled with forgotten tanks

[@Belarius0404]

Collector tank don't get buff ....

[@alexxu3004]

@@Belarius0404 155did get buff last time foch b was buffed

[@bertonderdeeltweser_g]

​@@Belarius0404 thats stupid reward tNks get ok nurfs ore buffs

[@Rin-hw9jr]

I'm all for the Minotauro getting a cupola weakpoint. But they better not touch it's turret. It'll become useless since the gun is terrible as it is.

[@is7_155]

0.41 😂 stupid sniper

[@troywalker8078]

The Minotauro can't pen a wet paper bag.

[@Luxuriaa176]

preach brother!

[@ogmechsftw]

just buff the accuracy, at least to the same level as the tier 9's final accuracy. it's so bad

[@roberthak3695]

Cry more

[@shapeshifter7676]

Wow I'm surprised they're not nerfing the Italian meds

[@universalgamer8010]

They hate Italians, i thought it was obvious... Rhino sucks, Prog line sucks... Mano will probably be over nerfed to the point it's terrible. Remember WG nerfed the Prog 65 (it was never even remotely OP) because it was popular... DURING A BATTLEPASS... Like there's no other tree in the game that gets abused like the Italians.

[@menfaaanda]

They're not popular enough now

[@soldier22881]

dont worry they always nerf anything f2p if its popular, but conviniently dont touch any of the pay to win overpowered premium tanks that cost real money.

[@YamianGodlike]

@@universalgamer8010 And the most popular T10 medium at that time was still Leopard 1...

[@leeedsonetwo]

Always they nerf a tank when I get one, this time the Super Conq

[@soldier22881]

youre not aloud to have fun if your free to play, thats why they nerf tech tree tanks while keeping the most broken overpowered premiums untouched. they support pay to win. thats why i stopped playing this game.

[@Omegawerewolfx]

Steel and Bronze were dominated by S. Conqs in Onslaught but WG should not base changes on a game mode that sucks

[@Dreaddeamon]

dude supercounqers were annoying to fight against, they could sit in front of you and you would not be able to dmg them and they would just tear you apart

[@agostinho6550]

@@Dreaddeamon u r not very good then, or playing with the wrong tank...

[@Dreaddeamon]

dude every single time im playing my maus i end up against one super conquer and no matter how i angle they can pen me with their bullshit high pen. and i never claimed i was good. i just find it annoying how one tank out shadows so many others and barely have a weakspot to begin with.@@agostinho6550

[@CrazyPanda688]

@@Dreaddeamonyou are terrible then because a super conq can be penned in the mantlet lol

[@Memsandro]

I stayed in iron because of S Conq spam. Them and damn 60TPs. I had neither of these two and yeah.. had to flank or snipe them, head on or on a ridge line, they're imossible to beat ,unless you're an unicum

[@kjellannn]

Where tf is the british wheeled buffs???

[@xvphoenixvii5146]

they don't need them?

[@nephalos666]

They dont need them. They're not tanks. They're clown cars and they are fine where they are at. French clown cars should have wheel and mobility mechanics to match the British wheelies.

[@soldier22881]

until artillery is removed, all wheeled vehicles should get buffs. and keep getting buffs until you can yolo into the enemy team and take out the camping artillery that has been ruining this game for years

[@johnr5001]

@@soldier22881Arty is annoying af but not as bad as they used to be. Blame WG for making arty campaigns mandatory. Only reason I play arty.

[@soldier22881]

@@johnr5001 The tanks from the first front are not worth it, the second front arty missions can be skipped if you save your mission skip orders. Alot of people i talked to agreed removing arty missions all together would be nice change to the campaigns

[@everydaybacksbroken2886]

Remember the 3.7 inch howitzer on cruiser II at tier 3? It was removed, as it is impossible to fight back when encountered. 1 vs 1 you'll just get one shot every time. The most OP low tier noob bully.

[@magscorch7706]

Lmao i miss those days of the T18 TD as well

[@danielfeinour9611]

Ohhhh, I remember that derp very well. It was one of my favorite tier 3 tanks back in the day. I once shot a full health Chi-Nu, back when the Japanese line was still new, and killed him. He was cussing me out in the chat until I told him the tank had a tier 5 derp gun. Miss that thing so much!

[@menfaaanda]

A 3 man T18 platoon was what you would love to run into around the corner xD@@magscorch7706

[@menfaaanda]

It would be a bit less OP these days after the t3 tanks got massive HP buffs and are around 410HP for a lt. You can always roll out in the Valentine AT for the memories though..xD I have 11 kill shots in a row with that thing :O

[@tudormese]

@@menfaaanda The Alecto has the same gun, more usable.

[@1255XL]

Finally they are buffing a tier 10 tank which I have instead of nerfing it just after I finished the grind.

[@darkarcanum1814]

Grinding for them last week and didn't get there...no wondering if the Conquerer and Minatauro are worth it.

[@11stupididiots11]

Happend to with maus e5 progetto and obj 268😂

[@1255XL]

@@11stupididiots11 obj 268v4 as well.. Almost finished with the 263 but the fact you rarely see v4's anymore says enough..

[@samcheng6488]

If who always chase meta to grind, then this is the reason why WG alway nerfing what someone who are grinding... When I gring amx50b, WG buff it. When I gring rino, WG buff it. When I gring stb, WG buff sta & type 61.

[@azizsetyawan3038]

Well. In this case the super conqu would be slightly worst than type 71. Because the worst DPM and doesn't have any new mechanic to keep up In the end the type 71 will kick super conqu for the king of hulldown (tech tree side)

[@Jean_1999]

I mean the Foch 50 B becomes that monster again it was back in like 2015. I remember the Foch 155 was a hell of a monster back then. Since the game has the Foch 155 and the Foch 50 B and now with the Foch 50 B being buffed doesn't make that the Foch 155 kinda obsolete? I think we'll see how this is gonna turn out

[@SuperdreadnoughtLiebe]

Foch 155 has been obsolete since before Foch B was introduced

[@CrazyPanda688]

Foch B has never been a monster It’s a ridiculous gun on the worst platform in the game

[@TROLGUY999]

@@CrazyPanda688 worst platform in the game? not at all lol good mobility and decent armor vs lower tiers

[@Freakless93]

Bring back foch 155!

[@MrJeepinZeke]

Foch 155 is a different style of damage delivery and can deal with throwing a round out and pulling back with the ability of pumping all 3 if the opportunity arises. It’s odd too with its 5 sec intro clip. More of a high risk high reward kinda thing. Oh, and always take a HE mag for the lol’z.

[@vladdracul2379]

6:00 QB, that's quite literally all tier 9-10s in the game. My PzVII gets wrecked frontally no matter what I do. I'm really curious as to how QB thinks no one pens the lower plate consistently on the PzVII when people shoot mine at insane angles and tear through it.

[@High_Octane_YT]

Yeah, when I play my Pz7, everyone just spams gold through the lower plate, and if I'm hull down, people can pen my mantle even with standard rounds. If I sidescrape standard rounds melt the "armpit" of the tank. The panzer 7 feels terrible right now, I honestly think it needs an armor buff, not an accuracy buff.

[@ryandao3047]

Although his masterclass gameplay to angle the front through the corner, if u act like the tank has none and reverse back after every shot, some enemy will have less chances to penetrate us. Also use it’s huge HP pool to trade. All tanks are penetrable at some point.

[@Chillr3nd]

Im having like 58%wr with my pz7. I like that tank and im happy with these buffs.

[@High_Octane_YT]

Good for you, but it is still undeniably worse than ALMOST every other t10 heavy@@Chillr3nd

[@Chillr3nd]

@@High_Octane_YT yeah i agree with you. You can do well with it but you will usually pay from every mistake you make. The thing is, that if you dont wiggle pz7 all the time you will get penetrated again and again and again. And that not fun haha..it looks stupid aswell.

[@nson__]

Super Conqueror will get the Progetto 65 treatment. They will nerf it at least once more probably after this.

[@thijsjansen7600]

As they should. The S. conq. has been on top for too long. Time to give some other tanks some love. That is what balancing is about. Making tanks less popular to get other tanks played more.

[@nson__]

@@thijsjansen7600What I meant is that they'll go overboard with balancing.. Progetto 65 has been destroyed, and in my opinion, nerfing it was a mistake.

[@thijsjansen7600]

@@sillysausage4549 you dont understand balancing. You do not want a game full of super conqs. So when you notice it is played to much, you have to nerf it so other tanks get popular again. It is basic game management. Cut the bullshit with your argument that regular players cant get any fun. Every player can get the obj 279. You do not even have to grind the shit out of the game.

[@thijsjansen7600]

@@sillysausage4549 and if you still think the chief is OP, you might want to check if you even know how to play the game. The chief is only good when playing hulldown. On flat ground pretty much every tank can trade with the chief.

[@seboksandor1672]

@@thijsjansen7600 u talk bullsit man. Casual regular player like me (1408 wn8) never ever reach the obj 279(e). The requirement is incredibly difficult for a casual player.

[@sdfopsdmsdofjmp7863]

The superconqueror nerfs seem pretty okay. I guess they were a little bit harsh on the reload time, but it'll probably be fine. The tier 9 conqueror will be absolutely insane in comparison now, though.

[@inkozebadigbadig37]

i dont know man its kinda one of the few tech tree tanks everyone can get thats really really good the nerf isnt huge yes but its kinda weird to nerf superconq before all the event/campaign/blackmarket/etc. vics

[@Ca11mero]

As usual most people don't understand that DPM isn't as important as you might think. A lot of times you will be reloaded for a few seconds before shooting the next shot, making this nerf irrelevant (in that scenario).

[@imma5761]

Unnecessary nerfs to S conq. Never found problem playing against it. Its strenght is dpm and very good but not op turret. It has lack luster mobility so it cant rush and its not broken on ridge.

[@TROLGUY999]

tier 9 is already much more fun

[@Ca11mero]

​@@imma5761How exactly do you play against it? In let's say a tier 9 heavy on the heavy side of westfield.

[@nickarooroo6397]

21:20 Exactly! Make the “weak points” weak points. Not the whole turret face into a giant weak point. Will destroy the entire purpose of the vehicle.

[@jeannedarc9815]

What about my fv215b?

[@endahummukharis2838]

They should increase dpm if s.conq is nerfed

[@Rinface_Enjoyer]

That tank is forgotten about sadly, truly tragic

[@patrickbourne3819]

I play so badly in the s.conqueror already, really need to watch more on how to play it well

[@durachoks]

S.Conq do well positionally, take a good position/hull down and kinda just sit there

[@patrickbourne3819]

@@durachoks so my problem with that is that hull down positions tend to be opposite enemy hull down positions and there are a lot of tanks that are good at that so I end up spending most of the battle trading non pen shots with other hevys. Hull down can also be very boring

[@mole3171]

Changing the mm to plus 1 minus 1 would be the fairest change they could make.

[@rooreeves]

It would be very boring.

[@edvinstromberg9107]

nah don't agree. Have had some great games as bottom tier. I like the extra challange.

[@soldier22881]

nerfing overpowered pay to win premiums would be an even better. and the best change would be to remove the camping overpowered artillery from the game and handing artillery players a permanent ban from the game

[@edism3]

QB you forgot one small detail in the comparison of PZ and VK, 560 alpha vs 750 :)

[@roberthak3695]

Small? They could have easily buffed the Pz 7 by giving it huge dpm and some increased mobility. No armor changes. And the tank would be good, because increased dpm would allow it to go in, use the armor that it has and do something. But currently it cant trade, it cant use the armor...

[@skorpion7132]

I wish (and hope this is that) that they gave nation-based specialties or specifics. Germany was always known for their over-engineering, but accurate and 'effective' weapons. This could translate into high HP, big bulky armor and precise and powerful guns with good handling, however their modules could be weak(er) and their tanks are heavy and thus comparably more sluggish. The Pz VII increase in what the gun will pump out (and from what distance) could go a long way to make such a thing. On a personal note, accuracy inthis can't be improved enough to offset the ATTROCIOUS RNG and ballistics in this game.

[@stolfygaming]

honestly they all seem pretty fair. The foch B might be a little overbuffed but i hope some love comes to the foch 155

[@misstati2308]

i still dont understand why they gave the panzer 7 those side weak points, the mantlet ia okei to have them but the side like why? its supposed to be a sidescraper with a rear mounted turret ;_;

[@durachoks]

you have to peak front first, not sidescrape

[@Marco-cg7fb]

What about making volumetric shells like warthunder, to remove the pixel gaps being issues…

[@bundesmememinister1586]

Sure WG, that AMX is fine, but the Waffletraktor E100 is "way too op". Still waiting for WG giving it back, the Grille was no real compensation

[@skorpion7132]

Yeah, I still don't understand how people can still say WTF E100 is still OP... Looks at whats in the game these days...

[@usssouthdakota5541]

Panzer VII buff sounds epic ngl

[@hebrewhammer4086]

They arnt enough. Its still gonna be a very meh tank at best

[@commander5379]

changes to vk k and pz7. buff turret so its ndot an autopen. keep lower plate 280 so it has a novel feature (peak with lower plate), reduce side armour so it cant sidescrape and give mg weakspot or something like they used to do

[@davidwaxter66]

They buffed the irrelevant part of the tank. What about the turret ring weak points. The tank is suppose to sidescrape but can’t do any of that. The gun was already fine it was just its armor. They buff the wrong stuff on it

[@usssouthdakota5541]

@@hebrewhammer4086 the Panzer VII is actually a great tank as long as you hide the sides, if you wiggle the tank and don't stay standing the turret weakpoints are hard to hit and with the extra pen it is much more f2p than the other German super heavies. It's one of the hardest to play but the fun you get from it is crazy awesome.

[@hebrewhammer4086]

@@usssouthdakota5541 I disagree, I own every tank in the game, and while it is not the worst tank, it is by no means great. But to each there own.

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

WG HQ: -How do balance the game? -More P2W. -Great. Let's do that.

[@mathewg5884]

I can't get myself to play random battles anymore. It just feels like endless frustration. WG shouldn't be messing with the tanks gun. If I aim for 3 seconds and reload for 15 seconds the shot should hit the target when fully aimed because if it misses that makes the dpm half. I'd rather have every tank accurate when fully aimed than a select few accurate randomly. Buff every tanks accuracy. FRUSTRATION MAKES PLAYERS WANT TO LEAVE.

[@No_12c.]

So every game of tier 10 in the matchmaker is going to have 6 60TP and 1 S.C instead of 3 60TP and 1 S.C nice one WG.

[@Azermaniac]

Lesta games doing way better job of rebalancing tanks than Wargaming They buffed M48Patton, BatChat, Concept5, MVY, Type71 is different better etc. They nerfed crazy tanks like ChitoSP etc. They are doing what is required They even buffed some collection tanks and it made them playable not op PS: However I don’t like how they effed up the HoRi line made them sniper type TD

[@shevaughnlewin9981]

Proof that wargaming doesn’t know how to balance. They should’ve just nerfed the s.conq’s hatch armor and add some smaller weakspots there are too many heavies that can just sit there and think they’re gods.

[@tajj7]

Super Conq can be penned in the hatch and the mantlet, standard rounds can pen it in the mantlet, most heat rounds will trouble the cupola unless its very well angled. Also if you get slight side angles into the side turret most tier 10 guns will pen there as well. Plus the Super Conq is slow, huge and has a giant weak lower plate, with flat huge side so as soon as it is not perfectly hull down it gets very easily penned and people were penning it's turret with premium rounds anyway. So hardly like it can sit there like a 'god'. As QB showed its hardly a problematic tank, its not winning that much and it's not boosting players win rate like say pre-nerf Chieftain did or 279e still does. As a comparison the Chieftain's turret is so so much better than the Super Conqs, the small cupola vanishes with like 5 degrees of gun depression, it also much stronger side turret, even if you are at like 30-40 degrees to it's turret side you are still talking 300+ protection, whereas the same angle into the side of Super Conq turret and you need about 230-240 to go through, so overall I don't think the SC needed much change. It is also a low alpha heavy, so it relies on it's turret to keep peeking to actually do damage, it can't just peek and trade like a 60tp.

[@robinkhn2547]

Nah. The Super Conquerers hatch armor is already vulnerable to heat and the roof armor can be overmatched by large caliber guns. The S. Conq. is fine as it is, maybe just nerf the reload by half a second.

[@MsAres355]

No every Tier 10 HT have Heat. Ist 7, Mause

[@sorinancuta3934]

If they would do that s conq will end up just like kran;)

[@Memsandro]

What we desperately need is a massive nerf to the 60TP, that thing should've never been born. Ideally BZ-176 too.

[@fili0938]

QB it's very important to note that player win rate difference is not a stat that tells the whole story. Panzer 7 is very forgiving so bad players do alright with it which means the average stats won't be too bad either. Good tanks that are difficult to play like AMX 50B have absolutely dreadful player win rate difference but a high 3 mark requirement because bad players suck in them and good players can dominate but there are a lot more bad players than good players. Essentially player winrate difference can be used to measure the skill floor and 3 mark requirements can be used to measure the skill ceiling.

[@roberthak3695]

So, that other S***** streamer who is taking a lot of time and still can't 3 mark the manticore is not that good of the 3-marker? Because according to his chat he is a 3marker god. lol

[@fili0938]

@@roberthak3695 I don't know who you're referring to

[@viridescent7748]

curious, i play wot blitz and in blits, the mino's lower plate is just as strong as the turret at ~260mm. the turret is weaker at 240mm, but it is still mostly frontally invulnerable, unless you have a lot of pen. the weakness is low dpm, sus mobility, and weak sides. a lot of less-skilled players use the mino in blitz because it's great for winning but not for high performance.

[@Loyidus]

Where is the Type 5 buff? Last year WG said they would improve the Type 5.

[@Panzergraf]

The Pz 7 really needs those pen buffs (and the fix to the mantlet), currently it has only a few mm more standard and gold pen than the 128mm on the E100, while having drastically lower DPM. Not worth the extra 30 alpha damage. I don't think the Pz 7 will become meta, but it will become more playable, and closer to average. Currently it's one of the worst tier 10 heavies, and its global statistics are "carried" by the fact that unlike the E100 and Maus, it's not likely to be anyone's first tier 10.

[@randallreardon4628]

The only buff the foch needed was a pen buff to match the strv pen.

[@RSk8122]

113 needs a buff

[@Belarius0404]

Never gonna get one : wg drop every tank they didn't want to deal with into collector ...

[@MsAres355]

Hetzer. Wg nerfed recently

[@Belarius0404]

@@MsAres355 but its a nerf not a buff why it happened ? Because player still played it mostly because its a broken tank . The 113 being not that popular won't get buffed any time soon .

[@danielfeinour9611]

Honestly, it just needs a penetration buff. Everything else about the tank is pretty decent.

[@MsAres355]

@@Belarius0404 People talk Wg dont touch tanks that are collector which is not true

[@SilentJaguar]

8:35 the Foch doesnt really survive so improving it's firing accuracy would make it last a bit longer.......hopefully

[@sylvercloud6631]

The only meaningful nerf the SConq is here receiving is the HP loss. The DPM loss is meaningless, the issue with the SConq is that it can sit hulldown as long as it wants and farm its opponents, it will just take a few more seconds to do it. Now a T110E5 will have a chance to win a 1v1 against a SConq by going all-in at close range to flank it. Yey, awesome! What they should have done is something similar to the Chieftain, lower the easy ammo pen to 311. This way the SConq might be forced to expose itself more to be able to hit weaker areas.

[@csabamajor8764]

Thanks, nice in depth patch review.

[@NoobMicesters]

I feel like the Foch B would of done great with 1 of the 2 buff characteristics. Either make it able to escape after dumping better. Or make it able to get the oppertunity to dump more often. Doing both seems a bit silly. But i do feel it needed at least 1 of the buffs, sure high skill unicums will do well, but *most* Foch B's i see Unload 1 mag then die.

[@acomamind]

thx qb for informing us all bout whats comin. imo, there are 2 types of balancing: one is trying to create Fairplay and even odds, so there is a minimum of meta-mechanics/plays/tanks.. everyone can have fun and everyone is samewise happy.. and then there is the second one and its for companies: make ur game dynamic so noone gets bored. create diffrences so emotions can rise and fall above the old and the new... simple psychology: static = boring / dynamic = vital

[@matufujiwara7493]

am i an idiot or why can't wg rebalancing team find a middleground. they either buff the tank to the heaven or nerf the tank to the hell. like ffs, just change one statistic slightly, put it into a game and see how it affects the wr. and if needed change some statistic again slightly until you get it into good ground.

[@xvphoenixvii5146]

somehow still forgetting about the Type 5 Heavy somehow, one of the biggest turds in the game getting 0 love, who woulda thunk

[@walterryan9741]

Buffing...Nerfing...Rebalancing everything except RNG SMH

[@thomasstucki3702]

WG still not buffing the VK 45 02 B

[@Miha23_]

What is there to buff on it tho? Besides the AP pen that tank is fine. Has pretty good armour, solid gun and overall it's a solid brawling heavy.

[@thomasstucki3702]

@@Miha23_ It's worst than E75 in every way. Same gun but worst, same turret but worst, worst mobility, all that for a bit more hull armor that disapear again any gold rounds

[@Miha23_]

@@thomasstucki3702 Gun on VK is fine, both guns to their job. I don't see the point of trying to fix something that works. Mobility is worse for sure but it's not like e75 just rushes positions so who cares both will be slow. Regarding turret armor I did not notice any difference. 265 vs 280 when 340 heat flies your way trust me extra 15mm is not doing anything for u... Hull armor wise I disagree. More hull armor matters a lot when fighting 7s and and especially full gold spamming t8s. E75 one is 230-244 while VK is around high 245-260 when angled properly. That's right at the break point of most apcrs from t8 progettos and other annoying t8 tanks that ppl spam in mm constantly. That means u get to preserve more of that HP which VK has more of at base value. Preserving HP and using it properly is most important for German heavies. It either makes or breaks these tanks. VK is just fine, a good heavy player can be effective in it and it can shine. Also in general raving of WoT community about buffs to German tanks is prolly making WG puke at this point ppl cried for years to buff E50M and when buff came still nobody plays it even tho it's rly freaking good medium these days. Edit: spelling

[@thomasstucki3702]

@@Miha23_ The E75 is much more flexible in every way. The fact that the "armored version" is worst in every way is stupid. Of course good players can make it work, they can with every tank (i have 3.9k WN8 with it)And if they where such equal tanks, why is the E75 at the top of winrate différence and the VK at the bottom ?

[@Miha23_]

@@thomasstucki3702 Who legit cares about flexibility on a brawling t9 heavy... If u want that just play T55a or T-10...

[@Giocio]

As someone who's been a long supporter of your stuff. I'm gonna partially disagree with your view on the Mino. You're more experienced than I am but you're forgetting that the gun handling on the Mino, is not all that great. If anything they should have nerfed the armor, created a weak point and buffed it's gun handling so it can't just sit in front of people. Because if they just end up messing it's armor up, it screws the tanks main point. An armored TD.

[@Dpixtion]

When will these. Buff/Nerf take place?

[@Bmuelr]

I hope this isn't a dumb question, but if they're making changes to the Foch B can they make similar changes to the Foch 155?

[@warco3]

WG hasn't touched collector's vehicles or ones replaced in the tech tree like ever

[@hebrewhammer4086]

I feel like the super conq nerfs are very undeserving, panzer 7 buffs arnt enough. I like the mino nerfs, I do agree that foch buffs might be a bit to much

[@Miha23_]

Conq nerfs are 100% deserving. Tank is just dumb. A very strong turret combined is excellent RoF and sponge like HP pool means that it is utter pain to dig out or kill in general if the person driving it has any clue what they are doing. With nerf of the conq era of OP heavies is coming to an end. There rly aren't any straight up OP stuff on T10 from heavy class atm. which is how game should be, at least imho...

[@22250md]

In its current state the s conq is stronger then chieftain

[@skorpion7132]

S. Conq nerfs are deserving.

[@AetherYes]

Sure they nerf my favorite Progetto 65 and now they nerf my Conqueror time to nerf their premium tanks once again ರ⁠╭⁠╮⁠ರ

[@amzarnacht6710]

15:12 - What's sad is that, when looking at that stat list, the top performers are all tanks that 80%+ of the player base have utterly no chance of getting their hands on.

[@subaquaticsleepwalker7240]

I like how when the QB says heavy tanks it sounds like hippie tanks, my imagination runs wild.

[@TheAdaoo7]

"i never find myself wanting lower aim time and higher accuracy on my close quarter heavies" Really? Mate cq heavy battles have devolved into "whos gonna land the RNG pen first on each others tiny cupolas with our shitty accuracy" having 0.33 dispersion on the panzer 7 is huge

[@aquasalim2775]

my type 5 heavy :') will be waiting

[@CrazyPanda688]

Mino nerfs I disagree with because they haven’t addressed the problem with that tank which is the terrible gun handling. It needed the armour because it can’t move otherwise the gun is just bad So now it has weakspots, but will still have to sit still to actually be accurate, so it will just get farmed by absolutely everything with superior gun handling RIP Minotauro

[@22250md]

Drama queen

[@CrazyPanda688]

@@22250md your mom

[@22250md]

@@CrazyPanda688 how old are you? If I hurt your feelings little Boy then don’t make it worse for yourself by saying even more silly things.

[@CrazyPanda688]

@@22250md your mom

[@22250md]

@@CrazyPanda688 your dad

[@Vormehk]

It looks like the buffs and nerfs for the Minotauro are driving it to get in closer and brawl with the higher turn rate and engine power, rather than being a static boulder on top of a ridge.

[@deadzeddicious3684]

MINOTAURO DEAD. Its already has bad alpha, pen and dispersion on its gun. The only thing it excells at is playing hulldown. If it can just get penned in the face by 330+ heat, its not a nerf, its going to be a waste of fucking metal.

[@marcusmaximus5011]

What are we talking about? The most broken tank in the history of this game is EBR tier X and those lowlifes (WG) does not even think to put it to the ground. So many times i hit ebr with huge calliber gun HE shell and it's armor just absorb it. I've seen many battles where it was imposlible to hit it and when you do - no damage done. Speed and profile of that "tank" is out of this world. I salute nerfing minotauro but S.Conq should not be nerfed!

[@BarsimonR]

I completed heavy tank fifteen in the Panzer seven... on Westfield... so its not super bad as is

[@CHESTER9871]

I mean. OK for the Mino... not too bad, i always wondered why that hatch wasn't a weak spot from the beginning BUT the bottom part??? Thats wild

[@ole993]

The panzer 7 needed a armor buff. Lower frontal plate needed 20-30mm extra and the turret needed 50mm. Thats it.

[@anadin7515]

so why dont the buff my foch 155 then? Its accuracy and reload time are trash

[@fakerobot3762]

Don't forget to buff IS-4 . Add more ammo, better gun handling, little bit more penetration for AP and HEAT, better mobility .

[@hebrewhammer4086]

is4 is fine. It does not need any more pen or mobility. The only thing it needs is more shells

[@vladdracul2379]

IS-4 just needs more ammo. I never felt so low than I do when playing that tank.

[@MsAres355]

258 ap pen, 340 heat. Top dog. He lack ammo

[@xvphoenixvii5146]

it doesn't need a buff? it has insane armor though more ammo would be probably be good enough

[@hyperquick7412]

just shells, ammo amount should never be a balancing factor, same goes for batchat

[@isrraelhdhernandez4759]

I just say F***** the nerfs, live the tanks like they are and F***** the balancing.

[@CrazyPanda688]

I agree But the Foch B and PZ7 did need buffs

[@treypelham5515]

The Grille 15 needs a buff too!! Especially the camo rating.

[@GardaNorth]

I don't play any tanks that have been nerfed again. I'm bad enough in them without being nerfed :(

[@istvantoth3775]

The game is so easy to learn..

[@OnkelTomHDT]

When I see planned changes on AMX 50 Foch B and SuperConq, I always have to ask myself, why WG doesn't improve AMX Foch155 and FV215? These two old tanks are not even close to the level of AMX 50 Foch B and SuperConq and WG seems to just to forget them forever... 🤨

[@robertflint4115]

"Fairly mediocre player like me" If QB is mediocre, then we all must really suck. 🤣

[@davidlazzeri4450]

Remember they removed the WT Auf E 100 for it's gun being too OP and now we have the foch b

[@oscarr7099]

I think that the pz 7 buffs are very good because it wont be broken but become a nice tank to play with the buffed accuracy. I agree with you on the minotauro and superconq but the foch b should be be buffed but then lower the premium pen so that its not just a tank where you only load gold and just pen everything.

[@NGabunchanumbers]

Foch b is my favourite tier x, it seems like they're just taking the equipment I have mounted and making it standard for a stock foch b.... I think Foch 155 deserved these buffs a lot more. Also I use foch b without any gold

[@mattenmedia]

When will the T57 heavy get some love. It’s been so left behind

[@airton4700]

They must do something with wheeled british mediums

[@skorpion7132]

Yes, remove then along with the french ones.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

24:29 the tech tree grind as well as the crew grind just makes it so discouraging to try to go down a new tech tree, even with all of the special crew and boosters WG now has

[@imma5761]

Bruh it has never been easier to grind tech tree. X5 or x3 missions(that happen often nowadays) combined with clan and personal boosters can EASILY make mediocre/bad stock tank win turn into 20k xp. Combine it with blueprints and you can EASILY ascend tech tree

[@fakedakillzor8]

I think they needed to buff Foch 155 not the Foch B

[@sirrianusdagovax]

WG should buff the FV215b armour and match it with S.Conq side armour, and also remove the side weakpoint.

[@T51B1]

The changes to SConq, Mino, and Pz.7 make sense. Foch B didn't really need the changes, it looks like a yolo wagon and overbuffed. If the Foch B stays with those buffs then why keep the WT E100 out of the game?

[@peteycrack8441]

Wg ruins every tank I put bond equipment on.

[@scottperry7311]

What they need to do if they want people to play higher tiers is nerf the purchase and repair costs of these tanks along with the amount of XP needed to grind modules, but they will never do that because $$$.

[@crevette_farouche]

Or just stay in tier 7-9? You don't have to play tier 10.

[@danam0228]

Get rid of field mod.s too, pains in the ass

[@scottperry7311]

@@crevette_farouche That's exactly what I do.

[@FallenEgo]

For real, I've got 5 tier 10 tanks and don't play them due to the cost. My favorite tiers are 7 and 9 and I feel like I can still make a slight profit at 9 but my tier 10 games are usually huge credit losses. I don't play tier 10 anymore because of it. I've basically stopped picking lines to play based on the tier 10 and just focus on the 7's and 9's to make my decisions on which lines to play.

[@1DeleterX1]

W-Hellcome back Waffenträger Foch Auf B, its been a long time...

[@wotdragonracer5624]

Super conqueror nerfs are so stupid, my main problem with it was that I have to spam HEAT at its cupola to pen and not bounce my shots, that’s the only thing that was unbalanced about it. Players shouldn’t have to spam gold to pen a weak spot, and even then it’s not even guaranteed. Firepower is good but it’s balanced since it does have a horrible hull. These changes to it are absolutely stupid and shows how out of touch wargaming is with the playerbase

[@Yantsika]

You said that the foch will be gme destroying but if you almost oneshot someone whit the fv tds that is ok (and not p2w) ...

[@miroslavpralica251]

We need a map rebalancing patch for higher tiers.

[@ICT_Made]

I have the 60tp, i think E5 can destroy 60tp easy, i mean E5 has a reload of a medium tank and more driving speed, 60TP reload is to slow for E5 but 60tp have the damage to make up for the long reload.

[@roberthak3695]

They could have easily buffed the Pz 7 by giving it huge dpm and some increased mobility. No armor changes. And the tank would be good, because increased dpm would allow it to go in, use the armor that it has and do something. But currently it cant trade, it cant use the armor...

[@GrasshopperKelly]

24:09 That's 100% what they do... they've said that multiple times across all their titles over the years; that's how they metric whether things need or do not need a buff/nerf. *Then* they decide "How do we balance it?". Tbh it could be worse... they could be just searching for random tanks to randomly buff or nerf to look like they're busy xD

[@TheUnholyOneDsQ]

Guess the WT is coming back in a different way than we thought

[@High_Octane_YT]

This is going to be a bit of a rant, so bear with me. The following T10 tanks need buffs(not considering these changes): Foch B, Foch 155, Type 5 Heavy, 113, T-62A, Pz.Kpfw VII. (there are others, but I cant's think of them off the top of my head) To balance: Type 5 Heavy: This one is easy, just 10mm of extra armor everywhere except for hatches, this would give the type 5 a chance to bounce gold rounds, while maintaining the weakpoints so that f2p players can still fight it. In its current state people just spam gold straight through everything, no matter how little you peek they can pen you with gold. So I think this would be a good change. Pz.Kpfw VII: In its current state this tank is unusable, if you sidescraspe, people pen your 'armpit', if you go hull down, people pen your mantle and cheeks, if you go straight on people pen your lower plate, there is no position in which this tank has any decent protection. To fix this, I think we would need to make the flank weakpoint (the 'armpit') smaller, and thus harder to hit. Remove the mantle weakpoint entirely but leave the cheeks as they are. Another thing I forgot to mention is that the engine deck is easily overmatchable and easily hit able from any high angle, to fix this, is easy, increase its thickness from 40mm to 55mm. 113: another easy one, increase roof thickness from 40mm to 55mm, increase gun depression from 7 to 8 degrees. T-62A: increase hp by 50, increase gun depression from 5 to 6 degrees, increse speed from 50 to 52-55 kmh. Foch 155 and Foch B: honestly the propised changes are good, except, it should only get +2 kmh reverse speed and .5m after firing. This is just my opinion, if anyone has any other ideas on how to balance these tanks, or think other tanks need balanced, I would love to hear them.

[@azizsetyawan3038]

Well. In this case the super conqu would be slightly worst than type 71. Because the worst DPM and doesn't have any new mechanic to keep up In the end the type 71 will kick super conqu for the king of hulldown (tech tree side)

[@robertschuknecht1481]

By the time I get to the Panzer VII they will probably be nerfing it.

[@j0sh918]

VK 45 2 B is smth to look forward to tho

[@mathewg5884]

I remember the old world of tanks before they nerfed every tanks accuracy because the IS-7 couldn't bounce a shot. Back then when i fully aimed my shot I couldn't miss in my e 100. Every shot felt satisfying made me want to play the game again the next day. Now it's just endless frustration. The thing that made the game addictive, the feeling of SATISFACTION is gone.

[@Vincent-team-magic]

Buff type 5 is so painful to play....

[@ozmrrotary]

I never saw the Super Conqueror as a problem. FAR more premium tanks need to be nerfed ahead of the Super Conqueror.

[@soldier22881]

agreed. from my play time in randoms, s conqs are a rare sight and i played a good chunk of t8-9. but ofcourse they wont touch premiums because the game has become full pay to win. even match maker favors paying customers over free ones.

[@willis2557]

and they still cant take mines out of high tiers lol

[@artyditu]

They look at the games played of the tanks too, not just the win rate, basically no one plays the panzer 7 apart from people who want to mark it

[@isaiahjennings2295]

You think they would buff the front plate of the type 71 considering how bad the win rate is

[@SnaccDaddyy]

Anyone else think that some of these nerfs wouldn't be necessary if HE and artillery were actually usable again?

[@istvantoth3775]

Stop playing the game

[@SnaccDaddyy]

@@istvantoth3775 I pretty much have at this point, I come and go between getting frustrated by the meta and playing other titles. Problem is I want to love the game again but like so many others it's just frustrating too often

[@the_underscore319]

Just a small note. QB mentioned that the improved dispersion on the PZ 7 would only make it better at sniping, while that is true, it also quite significantly increases it's effective stabilisation due to how total dispersion is calculated in World of Tanks. The effect of -0.04 dispersion on the gun is huge (apart from making it a much better sniper), it's equivalent to having a normal set of stabilisers in the equipment slot for free (before buff with stabiliser 0.37 + 0.16 = 0.53 which would now be the same as after buff no stabilser 0.33 + 0.20 = 0.53). This calculation assumes that you're only moving or only turning your hull, good players ensure that while in a gun fight they minimise dispersion by only moving in one way at a time, if you move everything then stabiliser will still win, but stabiliser of course doesn't improve your accuracy when fully aimed which is a big advantage. This is why some top players will more often opt to use improved aiming over stabilisers since making good use of your dispersion will make stabilisers on some tanks useless in comparison. A good example where it's useful (at least for first shot) is the Bourrasque. Bourrasque has good base values for stabilisation (0.10) but very poor accuracy (0.40), this makes adding a stabiliser less beneficial since it would only improve moving dispersion by 0.02 compared to an improved aiming unit which would improve dispersion by 0.03. The result of this is that not only do you get better stabilisation, you also get better accuracy once you're fully aimed, it's almost like having 2 pieces of equipment in 1. Don't underestimate imroved aiming devices. In short the PZ 7 is getting a pretty big buff if Wargaming doesn't change anything.

[@Taudlitz]

tier 9 of mino line, while ok, is the least problematic of them all. It has proper weak lower plate unlike the others, it has two turret weakspots that are always visible (but i guess qb dont play the game enough to know about them) and penable unlike the others. Honestly as long as tortoise is on tier 9, no other triangle comes even close maybe with exception of WZ

[@ryaningraham6608]

I swear I saw a super conq in every single onslaught game i played.

[@diamondrmp]

Weird timing. I just sent a suggestion to WG that they should sell the BZ-176 and EBR because these two tanks are so OP. If they sell them then newer players have a chance to get those tanks to balance out the game. WG told me to post un discord which i did. THEN these buffs and nerfs come out. They are nerfing the SC and Mino, which are the good competitors for the BZ-176!