The most TOXIC tank in World of Tanks!

[@QuickyBabyTV]

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[@izaakmunski1902]

Wait what happened to jingles

[@Mandurath]

Yeah, pretty rough news

[@Byggherren]

@@izaakmunski1902 He was diagnosed with bowel cancer and diabetes. Absolutely crushing to hear, and i hope he lives for many more years. One of the most hilarious content creators on the site.

[@TheNoisyBoy]

​@@izaakmunski1902 not good go watch the mingles with jingles

[@albazar]

I hope he can beat it, that was tough news, especially after Eddie.

[@alexanderstoyanov7464]

The most toxic tank is elc ev...lefh tier 5 arta has entered the chat

[@luisheunisch2757]

FCM 36 Pak 40 has entered the chat

[@RetroAmateur1989]

@@luisheunisch2757 "evil laughter"

[@RetroAmateur1989]

@@luisheunisch2757 "evil laughter"

[@Rhallowl]

Burrasque join

[@danam0228]

absolutely

[@janschaffstall8261]

Elc is naturaly nerfed due to the bad maps for lts. But a bz176 is toxic on every map.

[@AetherYes]

Did you type "Nerf BZ-176 please" on yt ?

[@jaroslav22100]

exactly.. with ELC you can have spectacular battles, but you can also suffer awful ones, particularly at the "city" maps... also, it’s performance is very dependant on the overall team.

[@AetherYes]

If you guys hated BZ-176 and want me to "nerf" them I'm gladly doing it for you guys >l:)

[@Paweu240]

​​@@jaroslav22100😂 i think you didnt played meds whitout armor Tanks whitout good dpm, and armor can do something Its evl you dont fire one shell...

[@TheRealYoda-ob7gd]

bz176 is OVERPOWERED not toxic. this is toxic because its game breaking. bz176 is simply better than everything else

[@Lustanda]

I mean the borrat can get close to that level of cammo standing still and can clip half a tier 8 in 2 seconds…

[@DiabloDBS]

Afaik you can even have slightly better stationary camo values than the ELC90 due to the 3% camo boost from headlight coating. But the ELC90 has the size advantage allowing so many locations to be used.. some of them even with double bush oportunity that the Bourrasque can't use due to the bushes being too small. I'd still give the scout job to the ELC but a stealth Bourrasque is terrifying especially on maps that have a lot of good bush locations.

[@brain9inavat520]

Yep. I have 50/41 hiding with Lansen C and STG Guard, and almost as good with UDES 14 alt 5. It's not ELC that's too good, it's all the other light tanks that are too bad.

[@nikoladd]

Exactly. Borat is way more toxic.

[@nikoladd]

@@DiabloDBSthose are lower camo locations though. Bush is 50%, grass is 30%. And you can use many of them with Borat too.

[@DiabloDBS]

@@nikoladd Yeah some locations. But those are the obvious spotting positions. I've seen ELC 90's standing in a 25% (afaik it is 50%, 25% and 10% for the real small shrubs) bush in positions in the open field with no ridge or anything around and 80+% camorating and an IS-2 no 100m away not able to figure out from where he gets spotted blind firing the few obvious spotting locations completely oblivious that he would need to get within some 70m to spot that thing... I find both of them problematic for the MM. But since most people don't play a full camo build on the Bourrasque it is imho much less problematic in terms of knowing were it is and being able to do something about it than it can be with a good ELC player since those usually don't shoot you while spotting.

[@williamsmail2562]

Borrasque states "hold my beer". Immediately followed by the BZ 176 dropping its 800+ Alpha onto the bar.

[@AetherYes]

Did you type Nerf BZ-176 please to find me ?

[@soldier22881]

bunch of overpowered pay to win premiums at tier 8. pay tow in game with rigged match making, casino game

[@Vormehk]

I like the suggestion for the BZ to be bumped to tier 9 and the AP pen buffed.

[@ЮрийВилин-Каналдлялучника]

BZ is a "tier 13" tank , so there is no correct place for it in game as of now )

[@posadist681]

@@ЮрийВилин-Каналдлялучника Yep I got general in frontlines every single time thanks to bz and progetto

[@ЮрийВилин-Каналдлялучника]

@@posadist681 Never played this mode )

[@arakainer]

The most toxic tank is BZ-176

[@AetherYes]

Did you type "Nerf BZ-176 please" on yt ?

[@stepanyablonsky7697]

BZ-176, Bourasque, ELC EVEN, LEFH, pz V/IV, amx 13 57, M6, EBRs (for dodging dmg with wheels, yet keep driving)

[@vfk8644]

@@stepanyablonsky769713 57 F is sick.

[@leno7492]

no its every single artillery piece

[@ganndeber1621]

M6 is balanced by MM, you are very very rarely top or mid tier@@stepanyablonsky7697

[@magnuslikestanks6044]

After all these years, I still think the LeFH remains the most toxic "tank" in the game, by far.

[@robinkhn2547]

absolutely. Fck everyone who plays this.

[@gaz1911ss]

stop clubbing then

[@magnuslikestanks6044]

@@gaz1911ss What? I'm not allowed to have fun at tier 5-6 anymore? Playing lower tiers =/= clubbing

[@azertu2u2]

​@magnuslikestanks6044 club, but don't sit still when arty can hit you. Its not a problem then

[@magnuslikestanks6044]

@@azertu2u2 Have you even played against a LeFH? Doesn't matter if you sit still or not when that pos shoots 3528 rounds a minute

[@edelmann4388]

the Even90 is permanetly available in premium shop and with the bonustickets you can have a discount on the cheapest tier8 too sometimes. how to balance: only one per team and only match up always against a Even90. yes, it might take a second longer to get in a match, but by the numbers it is used there is mostly a match available in short time

[@christopherestes6760]

THANK YOU! I had a battle yesterday. both teams had 2 LT's.... MY TEAM: 2 ELC even 90's. Enemy team: ELC even 90, Setter. Enemy ELC won the whole battle! he was the last against a our TD and arty and just drove around from a distance farming for the win... it was disgusting. 1 ELC per battle, make them wait- they chose a toxic tank, you pay the toxic time.

[@thane7162]

Once I bought the ELC when he first entered the scene at the very first day. I had some really nice chats with mates that could believe that this tiny thing should be a tank. During my army time I was a tanker too and even today I could not imagine how 2 soldiers should fit in it. Awesome games at the right maps. Love it!

[@SilencerGDA]

Less toxic than Ebr 75 FL

[@Kevin-bi9nf]

I need one of those too

[@southerncomfort3543]

I think what makes the ELC so oppressive is that no other light tank at tier 8 can match its overall camo and visibility. Since they won’t balance it they may as well give its counter a buff.

[@cromptank]

LHMTV turret upgrade for better view range? That’s the closest match the the ELC in the tech tree but currently they have identical view range while ELC is the sneakier if the two by a not insignificant margin. Bumping up the view range on the LHMTV would mean they spot each other at about the same distance without making another vehicle just as sneaky.

[@Tommy_The_Gun]

The sad truth is that by adding wheeled LTs, WG killed passive spotting. Games used to be much slower paced & longer & passive spotting was a thing, since even once some one got spotted, then they did not get vaporized into garage cuz DPM was way lower and armour used to mean something. ELC EVEN is probably one of the few tanks left that you can still use to spot passively. The problem is that other tech tree LTs do not even come close. The other issue is the amount of stuff you need to spend (gold, credits, free exp, crew books etc) in order to achieve stats like that, so that you would be able to passively spot the enemy. I would also say that passive spotting requires a lot of experience & knowledge when it comes to the game (maps, positions etc). Definitely more than playing Skoda T56 or BZ.

[@badweathergaming4929]

LTs overall at all in a TERRIBLE state. MTs can spot just as far as they can (farther in some cases), they are fast, but not fast enough with how accurate things are and they cant circle tanks anything like they used to and unless you track them almost every turreted tank can keep its gun on you. Also with speed, some MTs are just as fast and even some of the faster HTs are not much slower anymore. Add to that no armor so everything pens 99% of their shots and some of the worst guns in their tiers(in both pen and damage in most cases) and bad DPM even if they can pen. It says volumes that every T10 LT actually lowers the win rate of the people that play them on average (meaning the average win rate in the tank is less than the average win rate of those same players playing other tanks). I personally dont think the wheeled boys made it much worse as their view range is so bad and their camo is low for an LT so you will see them long before they see you in most cases. Do they make it harder for normal LTs, possibly... can they hard counter a passive scout by rushing it, definitely. I just think the issues above are worse.

[@soldier22881]

artillery has made the game even more worst state than wheels. wheels help make artillery miserable. until artillery gets removed wheeled should stay to counter the overpowered camper class that is artillery

[@badweathergaming4929]

@@soldier22881 Oh when I get to survive late in the game in my LTs I'm almost always looking for the opening to get to their back lines and kill the king pigeons. Thou shalt not suffer an arty to live lol

[@soldier22881]

@@badweathergaming4929 good man, i love you. hero

[@Jonas-sg9uq]

@@soldier22881 You could literally say the same for TDs... But unlike them arta requires at least a lil bit of skill.... I rly dont get why you guys cry bout arta. The dmg, ROF, accuracy and dispersion values are so horrific that arta basically has no impact on the battle these days... Why dont u have a problem with TDs? They also just sit in bush, are basically unspottable but have unlike arta good dpm, alpha, accuracy, pen and more often than not camo as well. Dont know why you guys think its totally fine losing 1800 dmg to one shot from a FV but losing like 50 dmg every minute is suddenly toxic.. Wtf is wrong with you guys.. Lemme guess u all play OP hull down toxic tanks like Chief or BZ and u cry that u cant farm in peace the whole of the enemy team while being totally unharmed... When even losing 50 hp makes you cry thats rly pathetic sorry

[@khrysRSCA]

It's tocic in your hands, not mine 😂

[@MrSoapert]

On the BZ-176 we all know that a nerf will not happen and i like the idea on putting it at Tier-9. They could also give it the same matchmaking as the EBR so a BZ-176 Will allways match against a BZ-176. Just a thought tho what do u guys think?

[@danam0228]

Good thought

[@hughmungus6838]

Nope i paid for bz176 by buying boxes knowing that it was a tier 8 . Thats what i paid for. If i wanted to take your shoes away and change the size or colour of them because nobody else likes it would you not be upset?

[@jbjb8335]

@@hughmungus6838 least crybaby bz176 fan

[@AetherYes]

Did you guys type "Nerf BZ-176 please" on yt ?

[@_Cookie_Warrior_]

@@hughmungus6838but buying WG boxes you have agreed terms and services, which means that they could easily change bz if they would want to

[@nando03012009]

E25 is by far the most toxic tank. Op cammo, it's fast, and it fires every 2.5 seconds.

[@David-ps6pq]

and theres always people who play nothing but the e25 and t67 they just sit in a bush and snipe all game. have no clue how to play the game

[@Donatelas33]

BZ-176 says hi

[@randomkommentelo9015]

Lefh arta, E 25, FCMPAK36 says hi too :D

[@gangfire5932]

If an ELC Even 90 grows 1% in size every second for 14 minutes and 55 seconds it will become just over 39 kilometers long: _much_ larger than any of the maps it plays on. During that time its 90mm main gun will grow to a bore size of just over 663 _meters_ , probably enough to one-shot anything it can encounter in the game . . . except the BZ-176, of course.

[@PixelatedPenfold]

A 663-metre 3-shot autoloader? Ouch. That gun would one-shot the entire map - leaving the BZ-176 sitting in dead space saying "what happened?"

[@gangfire5932]

LOL@@PixelatedPenfold

[@robertflint4115]

The ELC is not a problem. It's a "1 Trick pony". My ELC is just over 58% camo both moving/stationary, makes it a good scout. Though it's NOT the fastest, NOT good DPM, when I get rammed it's devastating. Please leave it be. Talk about Toxic, let's talk about EBR's and how unreal the stats are with them. REAL LIFE forward 60 mph on a road, off road 45 mph max and slower when Reverse driver is driving. This is the Toxic vehicle and needs fixed. RL it is a 4 man crew, 2 drivers, gunner and commander. Anyhow, enough ranting, sorry. Rock on Tankers 🤘😎

[@Skott62]

I bought one a few weeks ago. Crew with 3 lines of perks and regular equipment and it has 54% camo on it. The little booger can hide pretty much anywhere. Other little lights is its biggest threat.

[@Kevin-bi9nf]

true

[@Mr.P.Griffith]

My strategy in wot was always to almost max the view range of every tank. You will consistently get more exp for all the extra spotting you'll be doing. It works great for countering light tanks like this elc even.

[@topaz6959]

ELC is most certainly not the most toxic, BZ-176 is 100% worse, perhaps not in the EU servers where there's a decent variety of players, but here in NA, its a god damn nightmare.

[@garyhardison9265]

With the map changes spotting isn’t a thing on the majority of maps, the days of spotting 3-4K damage every game have passed IMO.

[@muguen801]

borrasque is even more op

[@西癫东疯]

Borrasque has more fire power, but way way less sneakiness. Borraque also way bigger, its not hard to hit full speed Borrasque unlike ELC:

[@smallarmsfire7497]

@@西癫东疯 Borat also gets 50+ % camo.

[@williammiller8613]

Borrat can get 55 camo stationary, but less on the move. I agree with your premise though

[@unseen289]

The Borat can unload it's 750 burst without being seen, rapidly move and hide to rinse and repeat. There is a high skill level don't get me wrong but there's a reason it's extremely high performing

[@stepanyablonsky7697]

@@西癫东疯 but think of the games without light tanks. The team that has boura, automatically has a light. In case of playing with tier VI, he can rush on full spead and deal up to 750-800 dmg in 2 sec. It´s bareally enough to shoot 1 time to most of the tier VI. And most of the time boura get away from it by having the speed and much more hp than tier VI. Boura is worse than elc

[@ShatterBlade28]

I got 6000g from World of War Planes over the holidays and used it to buy the ELC Even. It's a fun tank!

[@AGWittmann]

Saw and touched an ELC Even 90 in Saumur, that thing is flat like an modern european station car, the viewports are tiny. WoT Nerf: Would lower it viewrange by 15/20% when stationary and by 60% when moving. Would kinda do the same to the other flat lights like the T-100 LT and Manticore. In real, on the move the turret's rotation was limited to about 36°, because with more turret rotation the driver (located on the floor of the vehicle) was unable to access the tank's controls, and he might be injured by the breech of the gun. To fully rotate the turret and aim at the target, the tank had to stop, but it could aim at targets on the move, when they were in the limited arc of turret traverse.

[@cshubs]

I bought it when it was on sale a couple years ago for the console. It can be a laugh riot to play since you can camp bush and not be seen-- you could find a spot, and virtually go off and make a cup of coffee while the machine spots for your team.

[@xBozyan]

11:11 Average kv2 fully aimed reticle

[@etm8539]

I've seen no one saying this, but for me, the strongest tier for tier tank its the Pz V/IV, that tank wins games by itself.

[@jagdpanzere.onehundred911]

Bourrasque BZ-176 Lefh PZIIJ PZ V/IV Obj 279e All these tanks are way more toxic than the even 90 imo

[@OchaFauzan01]

let me add SU-76i which is basically a tier 3 Thanos, way more cancer than Pz IIJ.

[@vass7885]

​@@OchaFauzan01 SU-76I lost part of its power since they buffed HP from tier 1 to 7

[@OrdinaryWorld]

Great idea regarding the BZ-176 moving to tier IX. ELC breaks games in the hands of a good player. I recall a battle on Karelia that was won by an ELC EVEN who parked in a bush in the middle and never took a shot. My team was relegated to the edges of the map to prevent being spotted and killed. And let's face it, this is a vision game. You control the vision, you control the battlefield. The only thing that comes close is the E25 in that respect but even though its camo can be outrageous, it's not as small as the ELC.

[@nikokentaur2240]

And it has no CVS ;)

[@XSharkdarkX]

For me the Bourrasque is still the more toxic tank in the game by his versatility : camo, spotting ability, speed and burst. The ELC Even and the BZ-176 are just behind for the holy trinity of OP (premium) vehicles.

[@shonemumy]

decently done 3D cammo. surprised WG didn't try to put 5 different AA guns on it regardless of its size.

[@nizari116]

Bourrasque is the most toxic. Its the game winner, game decider, even on tier 10 battles. Every. Single. Time.

[@Xard86]

Quite interesting thing is that the real ELC Even 90 had a gun capable of effectively piercing the armor of the IS-4

[@ahmadabouheit]

Wargaming devs looking at each other stressfully while watching this video and working on ELC Even 105.

[@marcelgroen6256]

I loved your initial judgement on the ELC EVEN 90, QB ... Just kiddin' ... Love your contributions !!!

[@Madude62]

The infamous Steven-90

[@PixelatedPenfold]

Another Wallst (Honest Gaming) fan

[@sethcarter9833]

Nah, it cannot be the most toxic tank. It is so dependent on the team, especially if compared to the actual toxic tanks like the BZ176 or Bourrasque. That's not even a fair comparison. Also, the counter towards the ELC Even 90 is the EBR 75...which works just the other way around and can drive dangerously close to enemy light tanks to spot them...

[@coosmac]

I use to love playing tier 8 lights but now it's not really enjoyable to play other lights because you can't compete against ELC.

[@nson__]

I love the ELC Even 90. It is not a "press W and enjoy" tank. You have to know what you do, where you go and how you react if you get spotted. It might be small, but I got annihilated several times if I made the wrong decision.

[@logankeppo]

Agreed, got the ELC without knowing how to play lights well, went and played throught the Bachat line and now love the ELC now that I know how to use it!

[@azgarogly]

Funny enough, that is exactly how I play it most of the time. Press W and enjoy. Sure, there is plenty of pressing A and D, but W is on for most of the game. Because speed keeps you alive.

[@drafhixa]

Currently packing 57.1% camo and had tanks pass by me at 75 meters and never saw me

[@-Shockwave-]

It's my go to tank when i want to have a fun game, AMX1390 crew in it with 5 perks and bond and imporoved equipment, they will only spot me within proxy distance so i see most of the nme lights comming towards me and i just back off to keep them spotted but remain unspotted. End game i just gonna harras and clean up some leftover tanks.

[@Fonsmail]

you idea is good. give it an engine overheating counter if it is still and then starts to smoke making it visible…, can be done!

[@rafaelfreitas7080]

I never even think about the ELC. Wheeled vehicles, premium BZ, and a few other high burst or over the top armor T8 premiums, nost tier 10 reward tanks, the M44 arty, the Lefh....Those bother me.

[@obrnenydrevokocur9344]

I would not consider the ELC to be as bad as the borrat or the 176. The low clip dmg potential means, that it will lose 1 on 1 fights with (almost) every other light tank. So any ELC player, who does not have enough experience with light tanks, can be countered by a bit more aggressive play.

[@tompayne4945]

Unpopular opinion. The WORST thing about the ELC is it has an autoloader clip to murder other low hp tanks at the end of a game it hid for the entirety of. the clip is what pushes this tank over to stupid broken.

[@lollol-py3jz]

the problem with nerfing the elc is indeed that it is a premium, but even if wargaming would nerf the elc and give it less camo, it would be one of the worst tanks in WOT since it got a terrible gun and no armor

[@zacharyfelkel7924]

The counter to an ELC even 90 is the miel and borasque. They can spot it with the right setup and eliminate it almost within the first minute of the game. Or you can have WG say f u we are giving the enemy team and elc and 2 borasque and you get a black bulldog and random crap meds that can’t spot either. Great game that is, very balanced and fair.

[@ghoul114]

I've thought the same thing about the ELC, they could either nerf it, which they wont, or not have it regularly available to buy or they should bring a couple of small tanks to compete with it.

[@ghoul114]

I tried that link but it says it’s terminated

[@Nippa_play]

They do nerf premiums quietly, soft stats and more. I've noticed some of my premiums behaving differently over time. Lets face it, this company have broken every promise that they ever made when it comes to selling Tanks!

[@mr.niceguy9394]

54% cant be achieved with standard equipment its like 53% at most tied with Ebr With All bond/Bounty Equip If I remember Correctly

[@TotalRookie_LV]

I bought this one for real money on discount (those, that are regularly provided after a series of victories), but... only got a couple of games on it, because I'm afraid to play LT and leave my team blind, since I'm not a good player. 🤣

[@TotalRookie_LV]

P.S. Oh, BTW, just a couple days ago one of my clanmates noticed a really bad player on ELC with abysmal rating (below 900). Well, my rating isn't even nearly THAT bad, but that's pretty much what I'm afraid of - to be bad at playing a class, that really matters in the game.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

This is definitely a tank that gets exponentially more powerful the more sweaty the player is, since a bad ELC player can be countered simply from proxy spotted by an equally bad light tank player (usually me)

[@zanaton1989]

To face an elc you even need pink equipment and consumables if you're not worth shit, and new users can't afford that so they go to war thunder

[@zzHoo-c9g]

i suggest the cover of this video to be a open ground with nothing, because this is what happened when u meet elc90 in wot

[@hohuynhquocchuong4925]

Just nerf the view range to the level of lynx, make sure the max view range it can get up to 400m and force it to mount binoscopes.

[@Ivanova2718]

it's also too short to easily blind fire, even when you get the right bush. if there's not anything immdiately behind you for the distance assist to 'see' the shell is likely to soar right over you

[@TurboCharged_RubberDuck]

I would argue that the ELC Even 90 is NOT "toxic"... It may be annoying to try to play against for other light players if the driver is skilled and have good equipment and crew on it. However, most Even 90 players are NOT that skilled and dont have that good equipment and crew on it so it will be easier to take out in these situations! The BZ-176 is very much "toxic" as it, in my opinion, ruins the game experience way more for anyone between tier 6 to 8 (and maybe even 9) with it's outrageous HE pen and gun handling.

[@nicklasasplund5908]

I hope WG removes the commander's vision system, or changes it so that all light tanks can use it. Is so damn annoying to play tier 6 or 7 and face tier 8s who see you through all the bushes

[@Kevin-bi9nf]

They nerfed the E25 and it is premium . The even90 doesn't need nerfing . Everyone bullies it.

[@Creatural]

trading IS-5 for ELC was one of the best moves I made in this game

[@philippdorn322]

in my opinion the most toxic thing about this tank is that it just makes every other t8 light obsolete except the ebr which gets special matchmaking. I was so frustrated at playing the LTTB that i just trew away my tank in trade for the elc every game because it felt like the only way i could get value for me and my team

[@LWTUA120609]

I strongly disagree. Most toxic is BZ.176 followed by LeFH18B2. These two are absolutely the worst sh*+* in the game.

[@jimis2223]

Fun fact qb , exhaust directive is slightly better than camo directive.

[@animalyze7120]

This tank is not toxic, it's just 100% efficient at it's only role. Toxic would the 279e or the Chief in pub matches. All WG needs do is make everything available at a reasonable level. The mission tanks are beyond he reach of many and 99% of the players that do have the mission tanks they paid unsavory players boat loads of real money to unlock them. A better move would to stop pairing tanks in battles with tanks that are 50 years apart in technology. They could remove the sissy circles too forcing people to fight it out rather than play a tank game afraid to use the gun.

[@virt23virt]

my favorite tank. played 1k already from my 22k game. i like it very much

[@exharkhun5605]

Stealth has an inbuild balancer. You see this with stealthy destroyers in Wows. Yeah you can get very close to the enemy without him spotting you, now what are you going to do when he does? Stealth is seen as a skill based mechanic, and the tank itself has very clear mins to it's one max. Toxic tanks are the ones that make you feel powerless. A very skilled stealth player can do that, but only to an extent. I don't see this tank as very toxic.

[@ggginforlab]

Elc is cheap (for premium), can be paid with gold, give good credits... Not even near the toxic level of 176. The only problem with Elc is with every other LT in tier 8-9. Today you can play LTs in tier 6-7 and have fun, win credits and be useful for your team. In tier 8, play Elc or dont play LT.

[@halukyildiz4126]

u did this video now they r on every map !!!! Thank u QB !!!

[@SvetlinTenev]

But they where on every map long before the video ....as he said is the most played tank, and is the most played tank cos is OP.

[@blanchae]

Wargaming doesn't officially nerf premium vehicles, they just stop being op after a while. When I bought the T54 Mod1 when it first came out. It was a beast - great armor, nimble and pen everything. A month later it seemed sluggish, everything was penning it and bouncing shots. One of the first battles I had was head to head against two tier 8 mediums. I ran circles around the other mediums, bounced their shots and killed both. One month later, I had trouble fighting one head to head.

[@dom3827]

That is a Myth. They did in the past and will still do. Type 59, KV 2 R, Super Pershing All officially nerfed even with refunds due to the nerf. Losing a hughe amount of player base due to overpowered p2w game mechanics is more expensive than just changing the actual mechanic. One way you just lose some people who bought it or just made some angry. Nothing compared to the damage of thousands of customers who dont play the game because of negative publicity going viral. And those customers will never pay anything for anything in the game. At the other side, in worst case, you just refund some BZ Players. Which is ridiculously cheaper than the potential loss due to bad publicity. And that is what BZ did. WoT got viral for pay to win and now is seen as a joke in memes. The Damage is dealt. Guess why they try to find concepts of gaining more money desperately. They lost enormously much with BZ 176

[@TurbineFlyer]

To me, this tank is more toxic than the BZ176. I hate this freaking tank because it's in every tier 8 game on the NA server.

[@sarunotaslt]

Id say bz176/lefh/boRAT are the most toxic. but the bugger 90 might me the most annoying.

[@Phil926]

I actually hate the 13 57s more than the 90. At least the 90 only hits you for a total of about 600 damage and then has to take some time to reload. Those damn 13 57s just death by a thousand cuts on you with a stupidly high firing rate, and they reload so damn quickly. The way I agree with your top three. Those are my most hated with the BZ being significantly above the leaf blower and the leaf blower significantly above the borat

[@Spielberg7]

Since its so popular, put ELC EVEN 90 only in same matchups against ELC EVEN 90 like EBR 75 against itself or a Lynx and problem solved.

[@madart6476]

BZ 176 is OP only for those who didn’t have it, or doesn’t want to shoot gold. I mean you can’t have all balanced, in real life some tanks are more powerful than others, what’s the point of making all tanks similar. Where is the passion and the soul of certain things. I think WG made a mistake with the BZ 176. I have it and i love it. But im not playing with it constantly, i like variety. If WG will change something about it, it will be worse in my opinion, you can’t sell me a BMW and then change it with a Fiat or a Ferrari, i want my BMW, if you know what a mean.

[@Martynas954]

yup has the camo rating of my t100 lt but its a tier 8 premium, id imagine if it had my t100 crew it would be bloody invisible

[@xBozyan]

I think a reasonable fix for BZ-176 without nerfing it would be a reverse preferential matchmaking, to where it can never see tier 6 tanks. The least they could do.

[@servusdedurantem]

so should all other op premium tanks like skoda 56 - 703 II and others

[@aristaeus2514]

You do realize this means other tier 8's will also suffer from this right. Basically creating a tier 8+ mm. It would help tier 6 and 7 but really only nerf all the other tier 8's

[@xBozyan]

@@aristaeus2514 MM doesn't have to create special lobbies for them, just add them only to the ones where tier 6 where not in. As a result bz might stay more in queue tho.

[@aristaeus2514]

Yes I understand, but my point is that this will result in other tier 8s being matched up with them so often that it would beat the purpose. Also, imagine if you would have a long queue and you do get matched with them, even if you expect that to be more rare, it will be even more toxic than it is now. @@xBozyan

[@shred3005]

I’ve got a BZ-176 and I don’t like playing it much. Gun handling is tedious and armour isn’t that reliable

[@patatacaliente8270]

Definitely in the top 5 of toxic tanks, but I would probably not put it on #1, because it is too situational. My personal Top V: 1) leF 2) BZ-176, 3) EBR 75 (and 105), 4) Bourrasque, 5) Even 90. Feel free to disagree.

[@natus99]

prem lights definitely should NOT have -2 MM, this is just ridiculous

[@K_LeShaeya]

I cannot agree that this tank is toxic, mainly for the fact that, since it's gun is unreliable outside short ranges, you have no armor and most of the guns you will be facing in +2mm can nearly or actually kill your tank in 1 hit if they get a good shot and good roll. That and, the EVEN 90, like other passive scouts with poor guns are relegated to relying on teamwork and a team that actually plays well and fires and damages spotted targets. Sure a good player will set up in the good bush or the funky bushes as you described, but sitting in a bush spotting targets that your team either ignores or fires, misses and then gets killed by... EVEN 90 relies too much on the team to ever be a real problem. It's camo is well balanced because that's it's only survival tactic, it's gun is weak and terrible past a few 100 meters so hiding and spotting is literally it's tactic I'd say tanks like the BZ-176, LeFH, FV4005/183, Cheiftain, etc are more toxic and we all know why. BZ-176 should not exist in tier 8 LeFH is a horribly toxic vehicle and is only in the hands of seal clubbers FV4005/183 can 1 tap almost all tanks in the game and Chieftain... is a Chieftain

[@Atomicjedi]

You can hide the ELC in a bowl of salad...

[@jforden78]

I've spotted more ELC by running into them than with my actual vision. I do like QB's idea about the BZ-176 though.

[@djfez58]

I kind of agree. I am a very average player (despite playing this game for 12 years) but I can rack up experience and credits in this tank more consistently that any other tank. To play with an ELC when the other team don't have one for counter spotting is a license to print credits. So please don't nerf it but just stop selling it please!

[@Johnnyynf]

And imagine we had it for free in tech tree before 9.18 It's called SPIC at tier 7 (with tier 8 match making), fun tiny and mobile package with 3 round 90mm autoloader very similar to this. It was my go-to fun tank to play, now it's just a generic light tank without fun, and they sell you ELC Even 90 for money

[@Am3r1knu]

The camo is not necesarily the issue but the size, camo and view range combo is. If WG would apply the logic that the taller the tank, the higher the viewrange, then the ELC would lose, what, half of its viewrange? Also, the camo is great but it's not the best as I have more camo on my Kanonenjagdpanzer 105. Even on tanks gg, with everything maxed, the Kan 105 reaches 59% while the Elc stops at 57%.

[@johnloy9331]

Passive scouting is OK, but getting shot over and over by invisible tanks is BS. The second shot would spot ANY vehicle from anywhere with a line of sight!

[@usun_games2771]

I snatched it in a heartbeat in the latest trade in and did all campaign missions for lights in it

[@arthurvandenbrande2304]

the most toxic aspect of this tank is because of the matchmaking. As soon as I play a t8 light tank that is not the elc even I pray that I don't get matched up against one, because I know if I do my team is at a deficit. And I know I won't be able to contest the spotting in early game as elc will always outspot me and out cammo me...

[@TheLtVoss]

That might be true but in my opinion on the maps were lights exel you cann get out spotted know were his General direction is and avoided them or go and contest them with more firepower the later is a gambel and the first might not be as good of a position and needs more attention to play with impact but too be honest I play my lights more over my own damage with calculated risks I mean common if all of my team mates play like headless chicken with bad rng I have too doo the damage mostly per Bush mechanic abuse I try too create cross fires on the enemy takes same time too get that play style down but Supporting and distraction shoots mabye secure 1 or 2 kills in the process cann break a flank and because of the high mobility you cann change back too the other side of the map and doo the same it is a very dynamic play style and not fit for every light but for example on the Vk28.01 105mm gun you cann just bull any light with same practice or the lt432 with its stalinum armor and low Profil you cann Dow hilarious stuff but ebrs make that kinda hard same times 😅

[@funkygodwit1774]

This! I hate playing against the ELC in my tier 8 light tank. It's not possible to play like a light. Either I suicide on it and lose if they are any good, or I avoid them and my team gets outspotted. Pretty hopeless...

[@ggjoska]

Yeah its camo can be pumped up to 58.2% if you really want to hide from others without a camo net.

[@Guinness65ify]

I'd like to see more videos of you just having fun. The tank evaluations are nice but,,,what about a video line, Quickyfingers has fun.

[@bulentyavuz1176]

I can only take all the bullshit in This game with this tank, this tank keeps me in.

[@lordfrostdraken]

I agree. But I stopped playing years ago, the ELC even 90 is the only tank that I actually miss playing.

[@RichardStefanits]

This is only toxic in your mind QB. Its balanced As it is bad ín any other regard, like gun handling, dpm, etc... Its so fukked if it spawns to for example himmelsdildorf.

[@NotADuncon]

As someone who played 2k battles in the Even I dont get why other people play it as most play it really really wrong and get shit results in it.

[@bulzvids5434]

Elc is basically invisible

[@istvantoth3775]

The main problem with wot matches is that every freaking map is just 3 corridors and thats it. Its like map designers are apes. Matches are too fast yes, but with the current maps the only thing wg can do to slow it down is create more hull down monsters or stealth freaks, and it SOOOOOO BOOOOOORIING when a match is long exactly because of this. Like literally the most reliable way to win in Wot is wait for the enemy to become bored and do something silly. I love the game but this is terrible. This is also the exact reason why I love Frontline so much. Normal matches should be Frontline from now on

[@gaz1911ss]

props to that giga-ultra-platinum-uber chad in the Miel brawling with the heavies in the A1 area

[@ChristWolf]

I love playing my elc even 90 !

[@johnleighton8605]

You can fix the ELC by just doubling its size, right now when compared to the cars on the road that we crush it is so small that there is no way two people can fit inside it, and that is without the gun, ammo, engine and other equipment. The size is the only problem with this tank. They did this to the FV 304 without changing any other stats and it worked fine.

[@magnuslux3999]

I've seen the Even 90 IRL when I was in France - it really was that tiny. Wikipedia has a great photo of one next to a classic VW Beetle as a size comparison

[@Jonas-sg9uq]

I really dont understand the outrage about this tank. Check its winratio, out of all other tier VIII prem tanks its right in the middle. It doesnt need any nerfs, its completely balanced.

[@karolkilian2402]

traded my is6b for this and it was the best decision ever

[@johnny1553]

Most toxic are turtle, tortoise, badger and t95. They are not fun to play unless you are farming lower tier scrubs and if you are the low tier, people will shit on you with premium shells unless you are camping in the back. Not fun when you are low tier and toxic when they are. Also complete one trick pony’s. But QB will say how much he loves them…