Gaslighting Scottish Rape Victims in the Name of ‘Trans Inclusion’

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@kimj5037
@kimj5037 3 ай бұрын
Those people who are telling rape victims to 'reframe' their trauma are just plain evil.
@MichaelMcgee-nh9qt
@MichaelMcgee-nh9qt 2 ай бұрын
Yep.
@joycemanning1254
@joycemanning1254 2 ай бұрын
Again no respect for women
@Petra-ms3ku
@Petra-ms3ku 3 ай бұрын
This is the most awful thing I’ve ever heard. This is a predator that wants to relive the thrill by forcing other victims to sit with him. EVIL
@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559
@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 3 ай бұрын
As bad as you expect the trans movement to be, it's ALWAYS way worse.
@Blurbblurb
@Blurbblurb 3 ай бұрын
Google male rapists in US prisons.
@vasilyfamilienko4318
@vasilyfamilienko4318 3 ай бұрын
Worse is when they are also housed inside female prisons, in one cells with women.
@sbwlearning1372
@sbwlearning1372 3 ай бұрын
More evil is the cultural push to accept
@christking8844
@christking8844 3 ай бұрын
eviL is eviL Period... What "eviL" is "good"... That malevolent predator...being "allowed" even encouraged by the supposed "GateKeepers" proves how disingenuous they've been towards XX all along. Obscene Belittling actual Women's Issues of sexual violence and Power
@jacquiollard8784
@jacquiollard8784 3 ай бұрын
no sex offender should be in a rape crisis center
@ritabrandow1318
@ritabrandow1318 3 ай бұрын
@@jacquiollard8784 agree
@jensphiliphohmann1876
@jensphiliphohmann1876 3 ай бұрын
WOODCHIPPER 2024!
@theundone777
@theundone777 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. It doesn't actually matter that they're trans, it the fact that there are sex offender should exclude them.
@MichaelMcgee-nh9qt
@MichaelMcgee-nh9qt 2 ай бұрын
Ought be a no brainer but we live in a wicked society.
@tell-me-a-story-
@tell-me-a-story- 2 ай бұрын
@@theundone777 They don’t even belong in a center made for male victims, (Which I hope exists,) Because they could re traumatize them as well.
@rachaelryan4076
@rachaelryan4076 3 ай бұрын
As a rape victim-I’ve gone knowingly to a male doctor I knew I could trust and who showed me infinite compassion and care- however, if I were to attend a crisis centre if a man pretending to be a woman was the only person I was presented to talk to when I was expecting to speak to a woman with biological and cultural experience of male violence I would not be ok with that and would leave and not return for further help in crisis.
@louisavondart9178
@louisavondart9178 3 ай бұрын
There are a lot if " ifs" and speculation in your comment. Can you provide one single case where that has actually happened?..... didn't think so..... A CEO deals with staff, not patients.
@jaijai5250
@jaijai5250 3 ай бұрын
@@louisavondart9178a CEO shapes services and provision. How could a male CEO ever experience life as a woman, or more specifically a female as you may need clarification to my reference as woman.
@Parrotgirl-tattoo
@Parrotgirl-tattoo 3 ай бұрын
I was r*p3d as a teen & went to the crisis center, as it was in the middle of the night. There is NO FREAKING WAY I would have let a man do the exam. NO FREAKING WAY!!!!
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 3 ай бұрын
I agree with the OP, there's one doctor with whom I already had an excellent trust system established, and I felt comfortable talking with him, because I'd already known him well for years. (edit: and he was male)
@scotswumin5502
@scotswumin5502 3 ай бұрын
I trusted my GP, David Baillie of Maryhill Health Centre, so did others....always have a chaperone if getting an internal examination, eg, smear test from a male! Re the person who commented on your comment, CEOs can and do (as with MW), set the tone of guidelines, protocols etc. MW should imo be removed from this position as he thinks victims and staff should challenge their thoughts and beliefs. Additionally he gave false information on interview given that he got the job advertised for a female. A sari, long hair, ear rings and lippy does not mean yer a woman!
@unravel3416
@unravel3416 3 ай бұрын
I have used the Edinburgh Centre myself Decades ago. Had it not been for them I don't think I would have had the confidence to talk with my GP, a Kindly Soul who listened and helped me navigate the emotional destruction and self harming for Years on end. Had I walked into the centre today and was confronted with this, I'd have walked out said nothing for fear of being branded a phobe, and never spoken with a gp either because it was the lady at the centre that convinced me to be open and extend a little trust in my GP. This is wrong on so many levels, there are others in the comments far more eloquent in expressing why and I agree wholeheartedly. This is a slap to the face of victims for the gratification of a Man in drag and the thought makes me physically ill.
@lidahall5928
@lidahall5928 2 ай бұрын
It's nightmarish, isn't it?
@unravel3416
@unravel3416 2 ай бұрын
@@lidahall5928 It's incredibly shocking. I understand I have an emotional interest in this having used the facility and may be bias and emotional in my view, but I see no benefit for the victims in this at all. The only benefit is to the person we are discussing. And when the gender I'd of the staff is more important than the victims, I have a problem, a big one. Also I'd like to let know I want male exclusively rape centers like we "had", they have less voice than any in this world. Thank you for replying ❤️
@robertmarshall2502
@robertmarshall2502 3 ай бұрын
I used to work for the local council in Benefits. As a male I wasn't allowed to touch a single case that went to the women's shelter nor know the address. Only one specific woman could touch them. The women and children involved could literally be murdered or r**** if not. So the career route for a male to work connected to these centres is non-existent except if you're a chairman of some umbrella organization which means you wouldn't get to that position via some connection to those centres. Even then, male figures of power would hold meetings with the heads of the centre on a highly confidential basis without knowledge of private data. Males who actively try to work in or gain access to even information on the location of a centre would be prosecuted. Rightly. If I used my position to try to find out about women or the centre they'd have jailed me. There is no non-suspicious motivation for trying to "get involved". Sane males do not want to know where these centres are let alone gain access to them. If a male dishonestly gets an interview for a female role such as this case I think they should go on the "list". There is no justification for it. That male shouldn't be allowed near confidential data or jobs involving women, children or vulnerable people. It doesn't just raise red flags it's a genuine reason to convict.
@anonymousa-uy1hk
@anonymousa-uy1hk 3 ай бұрын
Well said, couldn’t agree more!
@beastrabban5991
@beastrabban5991 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree.
@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals
@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals 3 ай бұрын
Robert, great to see you here! Somehow your comment under my recent community post (with the pink anemones) and my reply got disappeared! Glad to see we're both back after our "time outs" based on our sex realism views!
@robertmarshall2502
@robertmarshall2502 3 ай бұрын
@@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals I was permanently banned from reddit a few years back when a moderator said everyone who argued J K Rowling wasn't "extremely transphobic" would be banned. I didn't even say she isn't because she obviously isn't except in the non-believer sense. I said, I don't think this is the way moderators should behave and that it was a gross abuse of power. I was permanently banned and never ever got that account back. I now have a new one (apparently because it's connected to my phone). I was banned from a skeptic subreddit for being skeptical of puberty blockers. I was banned from multiple subreddits without reason. I am now banned for 7 days for "harassment" as I told you for pointing out simple realities. Literally pointing out that sources said the opposite that was claimed. The pressure to claim Khelif is female is overwhelming and the cowardice and virtue signaling palpable. Comments go awol left, right and centre on youtube. I enjoyed reading Orwell but didn't choose to live in one of his novels. P.S. If anyone else is reading this and hasn't seen Ute's channel then it's absolutely fantastic and regularly highlights studies and events that are hidden from us. The stories of wives of trans identifying males follow patterns anyone with a background in crime, vulnerable people or abuse, will easily recognize and the methodical questions allow for an objective, statistical as well as a qualitative approach to understanding the unheard stories of the wives whose voices go unheard in mainstream media.
@applesandpears9756
@applesandpears9756 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful contribution. Thank you.
@bluedreamer6564
@bluedreamer6564 3 ай бұрын
6:40 It doesn't matter if they had good intentions. What matters is that women are able to be comfortable with who they're talking to. That is what the crisis centers exist for. If the women are uncomfortable due to the person being biological male, end of story, because they can't open up the way that they are seeking to, leaving no point in the existence of these centers.
@edoboleyn
@edoboleyn 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. If a women’s crisis center required a male plumber or electrician to visit and make repairs, that man would have to be accompanied by a staff member. He would not be left alone. That is not because they believe a random electrician is a predator. It is because they are taking reasonable precautions. Beyond the risk of actual abuse, female survivors have a right to seek care without the presence of men, regardless of those men’s intentions. The same is true of male survivors made uncomfortable by the presence of a woman. Anyone who repeatedly seeks to transgress people’s personal boundaries and safeguarding rules-particularly those of vulnerable abuse victims-should be regarded as suspicious.
@Bytheirfruitsshall
@Bytheirfruitsshall 3 ай бұрын
​@@edoboleyn Addendum: Many male survivors in fact would rather see a woman, as their attacker was male.
@gentriage
@gentriage 3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand the thought process behind just taking some guy in a dress’s word for it that he’s now a she. Why do people refuse to believe that male predators might pretend to be trans women to access women’s spaces with evil intentions? Anyone who would look at a women’s crisis center and decide that it’s a good place for a man who identifies as trans has either never been a victim or has bad intentions. To complain so loudly about the rules in place shows either profound ignorance or profound misogyny.
@ritabrandow1318
@ritabrandow1318 3 ай бұрын
Agree 💯 percent or likes the ideal got themselves
@gaia7240
@gaia7240 3 ай бұрын
They are malicious, that's it
@lenxiabuda8338
@lenxiabuda8338 3 ай бұрын
I don't get the last part, "To complain... shows ignorance"...?
@gentriage
@gentriage 3 ай бұрын
@@lenxiabuda8338 ignorance of a woman’s experience of rape. If a trans woman can’t understand why it would be traumatic for a female rape victim to be speaking about that rape to someone who has been, or physically still is, a man they are not knowledgeable enough about a woman’s lived experience in the world to be a rape crisis counselor. To complain that you’re being unfairly discriminated against because the safety and comfort of the rape victims at the rape crisis center is considered more important in that place than a trans person’s desire to insert themselves into that space and counsel those victims is ignorance.
@chilltarts
@chilltarts 3 ай бұрын
The way they keep forcing their way into female-only spaces shows that they don’t really want to be women at all. They clearly don’t even like women, as they keep trying to take away our privacy and safe spaces. This is nothing but a power play for them. And it’s beyond disturbing.
@serenitynowyolo
@serenitynowyolo 3 ай бұрын
They are now forcing women to call their r… by their preferred pronouns as well as judges using preferred pronouns which totally inflicts more trauma to the victims. The world has gone crazy
@Sophie-ur2qb
@Sophie-ur2qb 3 ай бұрын
That's awful! Why should we show any respect to these monsters?! Disgusting. Where's the respect for the survivors 🙏
@barryledgister4496
@barryledgister4496 3 ай бұрын
It`s tough getting rape convictions without now forcing (yes, forcing) the victim to say things like `she threw me against the wall`...and have a defence lawyer say..`at this point you thought she was a woman?` It`s hellish nonsense.
@nihilismistheonlyway4680
@nihilismistheonlyway4680 3 ай бұрын
Weird... youtube just asked me to judge OP comment... I gave it full stars of course
@NoOne-bp2jw
@NoOne-bp2jw 3 ай бұрын
They will never compell my speech. Trans women are not women and they/them refer to multiples.
@GraveyardShift-tl6ri
@GraveyardShift-tl6ri 3 ай бұрын
VoicesWithVikki said it perfectly in her part 1 interview with The Bahemian Gyal (Aug 2024) a day or two ago. "Women are now being conditioned to put their danger sensing instincts on the back burner to make someone else feel comfortable."
@tanyasmith2898
@tanyasmith2898 3 ай бұрын
Still saying she when referring to that despicable man.
@pyramidus
@pyramidus 3 ай бұрын
This makes me so incredibly angry 😡.
@Debbie-henri
@Debbie-henri 3 ай бұрын
It makes me want to cry. I just don't understand what happened to turn the world on its head like this. We women have fallen back into second class citizenship again, and it gets worse all the time in the UK. Round about 40 years ago, I was attacked by a man on a very early morning train. Every person that interviewed me was a man. Not that they weren't sympathetic, but it was still made worse telling a male stranger the details of the attack again and again. Still makes me tense up, even now, after all this time. But to go into a Crisis centre and discover that you're talking to a man dressed as a woman about a most intimate horror - it's beyond words to express how I feel about that. Indeed, to me, it's a p***-take. How dare they put women through that experience, when they are already holding on by mere threads.
@lynisathome222
@lynisathome222 3 ай бұрын
I feel physically sick listening to information about that CEO.
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 3 ай бұрын
I first heard about Mridul years ago and was heartbroken and sickened for women in Scotland.
@jackiejones690
@jackiejones690 3 ай бұрын
There is no excuse for this ........AT ALL....
@jackgammon4084
@jackgammon4084 3 ай бұрын
For anyone in the UK, please consider registering support with women's rights charity 'Sex Matters' run by a bunch of strong-minded articulate mostly women who argue for women-only spaces including Rpe. Crisis centres. As a father I also donate a small monthly amount - I do it for my daughter and women's human rights in general.
@ritabrandow1318
@ritabrandow1318 3 ай бұрын
This has to stop right now. We need to stand up. I know personally what it feels to be sexual abused starting at age five and for a long time. I know what it feels like to be blamed for it. Yes, I was told it was my fault that I must have led him on Let's get real. I was only and played with dolls. We need to put the blame where it belongs. Start protecting the children at all cost.
@jayhanson-hs5vg
@jayhanson-hs5vg 3 ай бұрын
WTF is going on . all common sense has left the building
@JohnSmith-ux3tt
@JohnSmith-ux3tt 2 ай бұрын
Too many Leftists in positions of power.
@elishh8173
@elishh8173 3 ай бұрын
This is so wrong. Women need our own spaces! Enough is enough!
@gfys756
@gfys756 3 ай бұрын
You already have them.
@benu_bird
@benu_bird 3 ай бұрын
@@gfys756If anyone who calls themselves a woman can enter a woman’s space, no, they don’t anymore.
@Busyhriehfjeje
@Busyhriehfjeje 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been raped multiple times throughout my 20s. I’m 31 and only JUST now started talking about these incidents in therapy. My heart absolutely BREAKS for that 60 year old woman. I had a little bit of a breakdown when everything clicked in my head that I had been raped multiple times. I’m almost certain she had something similar. That’s so cruel. I want to give that woman a hug so bad.
@Walklikeaduck111
@Walklikeaduck111 3 ай бұрын
😢 so sorry for what happened to you. Should never happen to anyone. I hope you are healing and find peace and joy in life.
@elenawilliams32
@elenawilliams32 3 ай бұрын
As a hairdresser I'm privileged to have lots of very personal chats with my clients who choose to confide and trust in me. Statistically, 1/3 of women are victims of sexual assaults, from my chats with my female clients... the numbers are so, so much higher but unreported. I hope you have some great friends, support and life is being kind to you. Take care.
@ls-l1518
@ls-l1518 3 ай бұрын
Recent events show us beyound doubt, that misogony is alive and kicking. We women need to focus on OURSELVES. Our kindness and empathy are our downfall. We must save WOMEN.
@Parrotgirl-tattoo
@Parrotgirl-tattoo 3 ай бұрын
It's not conservative men like the left loves to demand we say.
@WallyPyneoil
@WallyPyneoil 3 ай бұрын
You are a narcissist.
@michaelmunoz2524
@michaelmunoz2524 3 ай бұрын
A wolf in wolfy’s clothing; (even the sheep are addled).
@Xbalanque84
@Xbalanque84 3 ай бұрын
[INSERT "THERE ARE TWO WOLVES INSIDE YOU" MEME HERE]
@PhilipHood-du1wk
@PhilipHood-du1wk 3 ай бұрын
A lot of parents and other adults have failed a lot of children.
@Sweeden268
@Sweeden268 3 ай бұрын
Why are we allowing this behavior to continue…why aren’t people standing up together and fight back for normalcy? I have 2 granddaughters and I am petrified for their future. I know of no known group in my area that’s willing to stand up against this nonsense- NY,…yes I know but still
@HellCatt0770
@HellCatt0770 3 ай бұрын
When I talk to people they all agree it’s wrong, but they don’t do anything- everyone seems to think it’s someone else’s job
@joycemanning1254
@joycemanning1254 3 ай бұрын
I am a 79 year old woman. I am Canadian. We are as warped here as you are. The rights of women are being stripped. Men are controlling us as never before. Women’s rights are gone!
@ritabrandow1318
@ritabrandow1318 3 ай бұрын
@@Sweeden268 agree
@ritabrandow1318
@ritabrandow1318 3 ай бұрын
@HellCatt0770 I keep speaking out a sharing. If I could do more, I would. I am a 74 year old disable widow . Please pray I can do more, for I am praying . I WILL never quit standing up for the victims ( children and women)
@devesongs
@devesongs 3 ай бұрын
Because men once again are the common denominator of issues involving women. Trans-men largely are not problematic. Men create laws to benefit men. Misogyny.
@lindajohnson325
@lindajohnson325 3 ай бұрын
If he wanted to help women he would not have applied for this job , which most likely , would upset/scare and make vulnerable women feel horribly uncomfortable and betrayed.
@ronnieroo227
@ronnieroo227 3 ай бұрын
The world has gone mad....like dropping a dog off at cat boarding. 😮😮😮
@sn4rff
@sn4rff 3 ай бұрын
i can't say i really enjoyed the video but i'm very grateful that you've posted it ❤
@alexandrawordsworth9639
@alexandrawordsworth9639 3 ай бұрын
This is mad what went on
@janeg8274
@janeg8274 3 ай бұрын
Larger problem in Scotland…..We are doing that today in California Prisons!!!!! It is outrageous!
@alicerose6640
@alicerose6640 3 ай бұрын
As a rape victim, I find it highly offensive, disgusting and despicable, that women would allow men, to be anywhere near a girl or woman who has been raped. There are "zero" rape victims that would want to be near a man, let alone one pretending to be a woman, after being violated by a man.
@Sweeden268
@Sweeden268 3 ай бұрын
@alicerose6640 it’s breathtakingly surreal. Makes you want to scream…the absurdity is staggering!
@ritabrandow1318
@ritabrandow1318 3 ай бұрын
I agree 💯 percent, and I was sexual abused, starting at age five
@Fractureise
@Fractureise 3 ай бұрын
I am very sorry you had to go through that and i have a genuine question but im not very good at explaining what im thinking so i apologize if my question is crude/intensive as that is not my intention and i will do my best. Would it be worth offering a choice to the victims incase it was a woman who did it or due to their parental relationships they have an association of protection from men? Perhaps male councilers could be in a separate nearby location if thats a possibility (i have no idea how any of this works)
@ritabrandow1318
@ritabrandow1318 3 ай бұрын
He wasn't a counselor but a male who said " he was a transgender woman she was upset about being in the group." The other women have a right to be upset. I was sexual abused, starting at age five for years. No way way would I want a man there saying he is transgender. Some men get their jollies that way. Please let's have more compassion for the victims. I would hate for any other child or woman to go thru that. When are we really going to protect them instead of the ones doing it. I will never stop standing up for the ones that went thru the suffering. No one should say that if they haven't been thru it because you don't know what it fools like 😢😢😢
@ritabrandow1318
@ritabrandow1318 3 ай бұрын
He wasn't a counselor but a male who said " he was a transgender woman she was upset about being in the group." The other women have a right to be upset. I was sexual abused, starting at age five for years. No way way would I want a man there saying he is transgender. Some men get their jollies that way. Please let's have more compassion for the victims. I would hate for any other child or woman to go thru that. When are we really going to protect them instead of the ones doing it. I will never stop standing up for the ones that went thru the suffering. No one should say that if they haven't been thru it because you don't know what it fools like 😢😢😢
@mikametcalf3783
@mikametcalf3783 3 ай бұрын
Government refuses to protect women and children. Protect yourselves and one another. Fight back. Never stop fighting.
@cannagrama
@cannagrama 3 ай бұрын
#DefundWOKEdinburghRapeCrisisCentre #ShameOnERCC
@liabell2175
@liabell2175 3 ай бұрын
self-ID-believerst still don't acknowledge that forcing women's spaces to be 'all inclusive' *will* be abused by predators.
@PHYTOPLANKTON1987
@PHYTOPLANKTON1987 3 ай бұрын
And of course he is a sociopath.
@scouticuss2121
@scouticuss2121 3 ай бұрын
Strange though isn't it that in the end Nicola Sturgeon found out that she did know what a woman is. Because you don’t send a "woman" to a male prison just because people complained.
@cosmicmuffin322
@cosmicmuffin322 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@scotswumin5502
@scotswumin5502 3 ай бұрын
I was a supporter of NS until she went down this path. Utterly put off her, even after her Covid management, for coseying up with the likes of MW. Stonewall diversity champion capture suckered in a lot of organisations.
@julianstone1192
@julianstone1192 3 ай бұрын
We need to have services that are biological women only, if women want to share space with trans cool but it should be an option not forced on them, provide some more services specifically for trans people than just lumping them in, they have different unique challenges
@pickupmygroceriespeasant
@pickupmygroceriespeasant 3 ай бұрын
You would think that would be the most sensible thing, wouldn't you? But the trans activists don't want this because they see it as transphobic to separate transfeminine males from women in such a way. They want transfeminine males to become as indistinguishable from women as possible. That's why they want people to medically transition younger and younger, so that they "pass" more easily (passing, in case you're not aware, is the state of looking so convincing that people don't think you're trans when they look at you). And part of "passing" as a transfeminine male is having people not treat you any differently from women. That means being allowed into women's spaces, and no one batting an eye at it. And that _would_ be fine, if they actually applied that philosophy consistently. But they don't. They think transfeminine males shouldn't have to "pass" at _all_ to be treated just like women. They _want_ people who are visibly male, or "clockable", to be allowed into women's spaces. They will accept no less, as any less than that is "transphobic". For me personally, I am comfortable with sharing locker/changing rooms with transfeminine males (so long as they've had bottom surgery and are clearly making a genuine effort to pass. IMO these people are not a threat to my safety). But I know that other women are _not_ comfortable with that and they should not be forced to share the space with them. That's not transphobic, but even if it _is,_ why does that matter? Rape victims often do develop irrational phobias. That's the nature of trauma. To not be sensitive to that is deeply misogynistic.
@gfys756
@gfys756 3 ай бұрын
​@@pickupmygroceriespeasantTranswomen are women. They have every right to women's spaces. Your right wing reactionary rhetoric isn't going to change that.
@Clint52279
@Clint52279 3 ай бұрын
We naturally think a rape crisis center, tlin fact the entire system of care for these women, is established to provide the utmost care for traumatized patients. Thats where youre wrong! If there is one man in a dress, then it's all about him and his superior victimhood.
@maddoglover4511
@maddoglover4511 3 ай бұрын
I wanted to volunteer to support women who had been raped in a Scottish rape and sexual abuse centre, but the main thing was I didn’t agree with the idea that trans women were women and so I realised I couldn’t work for them. You basically had to agree with these values to help them in any way and was a shame but they are too bigoted to accept anything else even though I would never have even disrespected the personal worldview of a trans person regardless of whether I agreed with it or not.
@fraserct533
@fraserct533 3 ай бұрын
Women who have suffered rape ansolutely must be allowed to be in a female only environment for as long as they need to - they surely need that 'space' to recover. A rape crisis centre (RCS) that is not female only has to be a contradiction in terms & not fit for purpose. Not fulfilling its purpose. The ex CEO conning his way into the Edinburgh RCS has to be a self serving act of deceipt - no matter how good his disguise. It looks like its more important to him (& the ERCS staff?) that he be accepted as a woman than to have an effective RCS. - wants to be accepted as a woman so much he'll undermine the RCS needed by actual women? - cares about actual women (whom he wants to be) so little he'll do that? A male forcing or sneeking his way into a RCS has to be suspect - can't be there for anything other than dark, self serving reasons. Sounds like UR better our of it.
@maddoglover4511
@maddoglover4511 3 ай бұрын
@@fraserct533 I think that's the point - his personal rights are deemed more important than the safety and needs of the women the centre is supposed to be supporting.
@fraserct533
@fraserct533 3 ай бұрын
@@maddoglover4511 Which, as they say in Edinburgh, is completely 'erse aboot face' 😉
@graceg3250
@graceg3250 3 ай бұрын
Just wondering if you’d support male rape victims, regardless of how they identify?
@blinkyy1088
@blinkyy1088 3 ай бұрын
I love that women overwhelmingly vote and approve of LGBT ethics and now that it's blowing back in your faces you're all upset! Try not digging yourselves into a grave next time, eh?
@jensphiliphohmann1876
@jensphiliphohmann1876 3 ай бұрын
I'm so fed up with this crap that I immediately stop listening to someone who even uses the term 'TERF'.
@cestmoi4532
@cestmoi4532 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this conversation. I both volunteered for Vancouver Rape Relief and met Kimberly Nixon. It would have been wholly inappropriate for a man, no matter his identity or fashion, to be a worker in the centre or crisis line. Nixon was offered other options to support the house, the work, and the women, but was not satisfied - I feel like the idea of being a battering ram for Nixon's own politics was MUCH more important to Nixon than helping women escape violence. Many thousands of dollars and hours of organizing and labour were lost to defend sex-based services and spaces which should have gone into helping women and their children break free.
@charlottebowes7666
@charlottebowes7666 3 ай бұрын
The result is that one cannot change sex, so the process isn’t a transition.
@leahwooding5657
@leahwooding5657 3 ай бұрын
Thankyou Joan for all your research and insights.
@SlapCabbage08
@SlapCabbage08 3 ай бұрын
There is also the physical danger, of a person with vastly stronger physique is an intimidation for abused people.
@MargaretThompson-p5z
@MargaretThompson-p5z 3 ай бұрын
Obviously the staff just wanted to be paid, not interested about women.
@WallyPyneoil
@WallyPyneoil 3 ай бұрын
And everybody's interested in men's welfare? I suppose that's why we have VAWG and 'Believe Women'. The innocent goddess syndrome, otherwise known as gynocentricism.
@sannakarppinen4163
@sannakarppinen4163 3 ай бұрын
It is disgusting that rape victims has been left alone and society has betrayed them so hard. There is no justice for rape victims anymore..i was molested and raped by my brothers godfather and this is disgusting.
@niccosalonga9009
@niccosalonga9009 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. That place is screwed.
@auroratm2472
@auroratm2472 3 ай бұрын
This really was an amazing show never seen you before but I will be looking at more of your stuff. Being from Edinburgh this broke my heart it’s disgusting that rape victims are being treated this way. Thankfully JK and other people have pulled together for a new centre so victims can get the help they need. I have only one critique please learn how to say Edinburgh
@IanNason-qn9yw
@IanNason-qn9yw 3 ай бұрын
You can't be politically correct and have morals at the same time. Because the two will always conflict. There is no room for both. And truth is never found anywhere near political correctness. Ever!
@katharina390
@katharina390 2 ай бұрын
The fact that Wadhwa called women who have been raped and who subsequently require female only service providers "bigots" who need to "reframe their trauma" shows that for him, it was NOT about helping victims of rape, it was all about him and the likes of him being allowed to disregard women's boundaries.
@amyshoneye5455
@amyshoneye5455 3 ай бұрын
At the moment in England 🇬🇧 if a trans requests a session at a domestic violence centre (for Women) They Have To Let Him 😢 The Most Twisted Are Ruling Our Planet 💔🙏
@humblemonkm61
@humblemonkm61 3 ай бұрын
Great interview!
@sbwlearning1372
@sbwlearning1372 3 ай бұрын
Feminism really has been subverted hasn't it ??
@feministescontreletransfascism
@feministescontreletransfascism 3 ай бұрын
*disguting !*
@jacovawernett3077
@jacovawernett3077 3 ай бұрын
I can't even believe how a muslim guy of this thread thinks it's funny. He's a Hamas person.
@SteveCondron
@SteveCondron 2 ай бұрын
I am a man. I was raped when I was a child and it took years before I could talk to anyone about it. For a woman to go through the trauma which comes with having been raped and having to speak to a man is so wrong. Sorry this video is causing me to cry.
@MegaJacko4
@MegaJacko4 3 ай бұрын
I heard that there was an app that was meant for women only where women could chat, date, make friends, buy and sell etc. No men were allowed on this app. The CEO and founder of the app, a woman, reported that atleast 1000 men per week were trying to access the app. 1000 men!!!
@turdferguson9356
@turdferguson9356 3 ай бұрын
admitting that your legal system has no way to properly punish a woman who commits rape isn't the win she thinks it is... not only does it short-change male victims, it gives the activist class something to latch onto
@Vates104
@Vates104 3 ай бұрын
I was “assaulted.” As a man I had no place to go. Yes I am gay and I was “assaulted” by a man on the down low.
@patriciarouse16
@patriciarouse16 3 ай бұрын
No talk is the abusers credo. A red flag is the guise of no talk mascarading as anything at all . No talk is abuse
@gemox3225
@gemox3225 3 ай бұрын
This sounds something out of an apocalyptic nightmare.
@WallyPyneoil
@WallyPyneoil 3 ай бұрын
Rather like the Duluth Model, the SCUM Manifesto, the experiences of Erin Pizzey in the 1970s and 1980s, 'Believe Women' and the feminists' chant of 'Gender Is A Social Construct for decades. Not to mention the Declaration of Sentiments.
@heathercontois4501
@heathercontois4501 3 ай бұрын
Ingratiating himself with the people in charge is such a red flag. You'd think after the Church scandals all these people would have been more cautious. Any time I see people wanting to advocate for gender exclusive spaces allowing in the opposing gender, it's a red flag.
@maddib1723
@maddib1723 3 ай бұрын
As a woman please stay away from our spaces..
@buckodonnghaile4309
@buckodonnghaile4309 2 ай бұрын
As women should stay way from mens. Unfortunately that gate was kicked down long ago with the courts approval (in my country at least).
@christinelennon1110
@christinelennon1110 3 ай бұрын
You cannot make a silke hankie out of a sows ear 😅
@cathunter3874
@cathunter3874 Ай бұрын
he had no relevant qualifications, why did he get the job? I have considerably better background for this job and I wouldnt have even applied because I would not get it?
@solitarymacaroni
@solitarymacaroni 2 ай бұрын
This is insane..
@jayjmoi6744
@jayjmoi6744 Ай бұрын
This is sick
@llkoolbean4935
@llkoolbean4935 2 ай бұрын
Women need to keep speaking out!
@OrwellsHousecat
@OrwellsHousecat 3 ай бұрын
Intersectional Feminism Caste System
@vasilyfamilienko4318
@vasilyfamilienko4318 3 ай бұрын
Championing feelings of men over women's rights and needs - can't be called feminism.
@christinelennon1110
@christinelennon1110 3 ай бұрын
That manis a he ,she for a woman ,He for a man ,
@Domn879
@Domn879 3 ай бұрын
Where is this Edinbowrow? I’ve lived in Scotland my whole life and never heard of it.
@alibrown6268
@alibrown6268 3 ай бұрын
Thar was very annoying. I do wish presenters would learn pronunciations of place names and people's names before they go on air
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 3 ай бұрын
Femininity in males is different to female
@fld9266
@fld9266 2 ай бұрын
I’m Scottish and I am horrified
@PHYTOPLANKTON1987
@PHYTOPLANKTON1987 3 ай бұрын
This makes me ashamed to be scottish and shame on the SNP.
@WallyPyneoil
@WallyPyneoil 3 ай бұрын
You Brits are as silly as can be.
@christinelennon1110
@christinelennon1110 3 ай бұрын
The trans movement has destroyed womens rights trans women (men) I mean 😮
@farhanatoerien3437
@farhanatoerien3437 3 ай бұрын
What the hell omg
@JB-mz3eo
@JB-mz3eo 2 ай бұрын
If Sutcliffe was still alive, he'd identify as trans. Joan Smith is a legend.
@Ssm19494
@Ssm19494 3 ай бұрын
Women did this to themselves now they have to get themselves out of it 😮
@helenablavatsky9136
@helenablavatsky9136 3 ай бұрын
Lies
@Ssm19494
@Ssm19494 3 ай бұрын
@@helenablavatsky9136 no, you really did
@elenawilliams32
@elenawilliams32 3 ай бұрын
I don't know one woman, socially, professionally, etc ... Who wanted males (no matter how they identify) in private female spaces, female sports, etc. Or that sees them as a 'woman'. I have no clue how you came to that conclusion mate. Aren't the vast majority of the lawmakers/politicians who changed these laws male?
@mysteryneophyte
@mysteryneophyte 3 ай бұрын
This is really wrong
@FionaKumariCampbell
@FionaKumariCampbell 3 ай бұрын
A reminder Scottish law is independent of English law, ie Cass report is not binding on Scotland
@fraserct533
@fraserct533 3 ай бұрын
@@FionaKumariCampbell Which parts of the Cass Report do you think would not be applicable in Scotland? The report is not a piece of law. It's an in depth 4y analysis of gender medical practices produced by an eminent UK medical expert - its conclusions have been accepted internationally as correct & valid by the majority of qualified opinnion. By NHS Scotland too, I uderstand. As such, it can be used as the basis for policy & regulation of many kinds, including laws, anywhere gender medecine is practiced.
@kelleygreengrass
@kelleygreengrass 3 ай бұрын
Scotland is pretty lost
@jonsmum5552
@jonsmum5552 3 ай бұрын
It is binding uk wide.
@ls-l1518
@ls-l1518 3 ай бұрын
​@@fraserct533 You are exaggerating. I am from Norway, living in Denmark. Tell what countries have adopted these policies based on the Cass review? Be realistic.
@fraserct533
@fraserct533 3 ай бұрын
@@ls-l1518 Hi, I think you misread my post - which part is unrealistic? I point out the wide acceptance & credibility of the Cass Review, especially in the English speaking world (ESW), that it can be adopted in any country, & that the separate legal systems in 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 & 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 would not stop it being adopted in 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿. I know what I say above from being Scots & from following the public news. So, I'm reasonably familliar with the UK & ESW situation. I don't know the specifics of the situation in Scandanavia & would like to know. Which Cass recommendations have been accepted there, which not & why? - Tx.
@xtooni5242
@xtooni5242 3 ай бұрын
It’s seems like that attention seeking trans people are more important than the rights and the well being of woman who suffered and are seeking help. There is sadly a reason why this Center has to exist and it should only be focused on the well being of the victims.
@yuribelkin1319
@yuribelkin1319 3 ай бұрын
The world has gone crazy. However, one oddity stood out in what she said. Under Scottish law you can't rape someone if you don't have a penis. That may need to be corrected. Nothing to do with gender ideology. However, a woman can rape another woman. A woman can rape a man. It may not be as common as men doing it, however putting it into law that they can't seems dangerous. There are plenty of stories of women having sex with underage boys. I'm assuming that happens in Scotland as well. Men can be drugged. Men can be abused. I guess it may seem small in comparison to the other issues discussed. However, if you're fixing things. Why not fix everything.
@jumblyman
@jumblyman 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful woman
@cannagrama
@cannagrama 3 ай бұрын
#SocttlandisWokeNow #ThisIsSICK
@WallyPyneoil
@WallyPyneoil 3 ай бұрын
Well, there's only five million people. Interest is always artificially inflated because it is part of the UK. When it suits.
@calebfielding6352
@calebfielding6352 3 ай бұрын
made possible by the rainbow cult
@spideogconchobhair776
@spideogconchobhair776 3 ай бұрын
just omg
@beeret110
@beeret110 Ай бұрын
Looks cute in his coloured garb, Blue cap Pink top. Am i missing something here. also lots of boys toys in the background. Strange
@laok
@laok 3 ай бұрын
i came up with a system to help people have good faith i call it the manifesting system bascly you are born with your manifesting gender if you want to change your gender you become aspirational then if you get a full transition a doctor signs you off and you become manifesting of that chosen gender it's designed to be an extra step that no one will see as well as a level playing field but it wolud really help places like this
@Bytheirfruitsshall
@Bytheirfruitsshall 3 ай бұрын
If you don't mind may l add a link for boys and men, who need this service in the UK? Thanks in anticipation. Survivors UK Nationwide specialist support for male survivors of sexual abuse. They offer web and SMS chat services, along with specialist counselling in London. Their website has further information on their services, including a database of counsellors across the UK who can support male survivors.
@Tuppence1966
@Tuppence1966 2 ай бұрын
It’s all just bull
@WallyPyneoil
@WallyPyneoil 3 ай бұрын
I think feminists screeching for decades 'GENDER IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT!' may have something to do with it. The misandry here is astonishing. I'd love to be a historian examining this sick era in about 100 years' time.
@clairhonnor6211
@clairhonnor6211 3 ай бұрын
Gender is a social construct. sex is not
@adamwalker2377
@adamwalker2377 Ай бұрын
Sorry, but women wanted gender to be ignored in public accommodation. You must regard the present situation as an infelicity of that push. Your predecessors fought for this
@Selmamander
@Selmamander Ай бұрын
👁️👁️
@miroirs-jumeaux
@miroirs-jumeaux 3 ай бұрын
twenty and second
@RC-qf3mp
@RC-qf3mp 3 ай бұрын
The title of the video is annoying - please top calling everything bad people do “gaslighting”. This word has gotten out of hand. I know it’s all the rage among Gen Z, but just stop. Use words that are more accurate for what you’re trying to describe. The problem isn’t any alleged ‘gaslighting’. The problem is including men in women’s spaces. There. See how easy it is to accurately describe an issue without needing to use ‘gaslighting’ ?
@cee-emm
@cee-emm 3 ай бұрын
Disagree. Gaslighting is a good description. Telling women victims who uncomfortable with men that their discomfort is not real or unfounded because this man is actually a woman is defintionitionally gaslighting. It is the denial of reality and making a person feel as of they are the insane ones.
@dcollins4679
@dcollins4679 3 ай бұрын
How would you have people discribe making them doubt the evidence of their own eyes? Making people use female pronouns for males, compelling people to lie under oath in court? Forcing people accept Trans Identifying Males as women and girls? Demand acceptance of TIM competing in female sports?
@CrowsAreMurder
@CrowsAreMurder 3 ай бұрын
IT IS GASLIGHTING 🔥! The Trans Activists are telling and forcing these women to BELIEVE and accept that these are biological females and invalidating their feelings and observations by manipulation. YES "GASLIGHTING" IS "Overused" but this pretty much IS GASLIGHTING (where an abuser manipulates the victim into questioning what their reality is)
@birdfriday
@birdfriday 3 ай бұрын
“Intersectional Feminism” is just DEI
@pickupmygroceriespeasant
@pickupmygroceriespeasant 3 ай бұрын
No it isn't, don't be ridiculous. You can believe in intersectional feminism without applying DEI policies. In fact, we do exactly that in the UK. DEI is illegal here because of our discrimination laws. But we still very much have intersectional feminism in our leftist politics.
@gfys756
@gfys756 3 ай бұрын
​@@pickupmygroceriespeasantNope. It's DEI (which benefits whyte women more than any other group).
@trevorcook4439
@trevorcook4439 2 ай бұрын
Please Americans, when it comes to names and places names can you at least try to use the English language? Not your Us version? Edinburgh. 3 syllables not 4. That’s. cultural appropriation 😊
@jaijai5250
@jaijai5250 3 ай бұрын
Joan smith is entitled to her opinion on intersectionality. She may see it as an idea, or belief, but it’s a reality for unambiguous looking black women. White women can ignore racism, and black men can ignore sexism. However black women are forced to see and experience both.
@pickupmygroceriespeasant
@pickupmygroceriespeasant 3 ай бұрын
It's both a belief and a reality. Because, as you have essentially just pointed out, there are people who don't believe in that reality. That's what's so unfortunate about the whole situation. It's just like how Flat Earthers don't _believe_ that the Earth is a globe. Doesn't make it any less a fact.
@titanomachy2217
@titanomachy2217 3 ай бұрын
Every demographic faces unique challenges. I hardly see how being a black woman is a handicap.
@gfys756
@gfys756 3 ай бұрын
​@@Ala-XTCWhyte people don't experience racism. The dominant group cannot experience racism. In fact, whyte women are the biggest benefactors of DEI.
@elenawilliams32
@elenawilliams32 3 ай бұрын
​@@gfys756Can you explain why you spell the word white "Whyte" please? I've seen it around and am curious about its origins and meaning. Cheers.
@AdaTheWatcher
@AdaTheWatcher 3 ай бұрын
​​@@elenawilliams32it's racist slang, they're a black supremacist. These people are dangerous because everyone can experience racism. Claiming a certain demographic can't experience racism is an open door for racist behavior. I have personal experience with people like this. Been called a colonist and all kinds of horrible things just for being white. We are not responsible for the choices of our ancestors. Plus these kind of types often ignore the fact black people where also slave owners in history.
@gfys756
@gfys756 3 ай бұрын
Oh well. Most women wanted this. No point complaining now. 😂🤷🏿
@TheVigilantEye77
@TheVigilantEye77 3 ай бұрын
LMFAO. FEMINISM VICTORY
@user-tg9qq8eb3h
@user-tg9qq8eb3h 3 ай бұрын
You are sick. Get help.
@jacovawernett3077
@jacovawernett3077 3 ай бұрын
Really, go tell your mother you approve of the rape of women. It's not a good look. As a mother and woman, I am embarrassed for you. L'chaim. My son is 25, so please don't jive me. L'chaim
@jacovawernett3077
@jacovawernett3077 3 ай бұрын
Of course. Islamer J.had is anathema to God and life. God nor Archangel Gabriel were on metaphorical speed dial for sex slave tips, bathroom tips, animal sex tips, rape tips, and lunacy. Try not to insult my intelligence. My IQ is 152. You don't even know #1 on the periodic table is H2O. God spoke fifty sentences to me from above over nine years' time span. His first nine sentences were 8.4.2015 in the morning. Since then I have told people and timestamped many prescient visions that came true.
@jacovawernett3077
@jacovawernett3077 3 ай бұрын
God is my Father and rabbi. Stop celebrating the 7 deadly sins and pretending you know God, let alone your own what. Your IQ is 100. I'm being generous. You abandoned Deus. Vivitas. Rem. God. Reality. Truth.
@titanomachy2217
@titanomachy2217 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, they got what they wanted. They always get what they want, regardless of how badly it actually harms women. Intersectional feminism is the worst thing that ever happened to women. They're not going to let up, they continue housing men in women's prisons. So bizarre that this is the end point of feminism: women being forced to be housed with male r@pists.
3 ай бұрын
LOL
@louisavondart9178
@louisavondart9178 3 ай бұрын
This situation sounds problematic only if you are of the opinion where all Transwomen are sexual predators. In fact, none are. Some men pretend to be Transgender after getting arrested, not before. No doubt hoping for a softer ride in prison. In no way are they genuine. Secondly, in what alternative reality does a CEO deal directly with victims? They only deal with staff and are responsible for the organisational operation of the entity, not the day to day routine. Fear mongering again.
@tmc7903
@tmc7903 3 ай бұрын
No, it's problematic because the CEO's ideology meant female rape victims were turned away because they questioned the gender of someone non binary that worked there. Because they thought the person was male and it made them feel unsafe. This ideology also allowed a male sex offender who identified as non binary to use the centre. Literally putting rape victims in danger. Also, blanket statements like 'no transwomen are sexual predators' are just as ridiculous as if someone was to say they all are.
@nielszindel1151
@nielszindel1151 3 ай бұрын
The victim is the NO one priority and nothing else matters and if a victim of rape needs a woman for help, that is the bottom line..the service is not for staff to feel included or accepted. Get another job if you cannot prioritise the needs of the victims. Delia Morris
@jaijai5250
@jaijai5250 3 ай бұрын
The CEO has authority and power to shape services and provisions. He didn’t need to see victims. He could simply enact and implement policies, and procedures that were detrimental to vulnerable women and girls. His presence alone could influence them not to access the service. Therefore, the service might as well be defunct as it’s his playground, toy.
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 3 ай бұрын
The CEO specifically said that rape survivors need to confront our biases, while getting post-attack help. 🤦🏾‍♀️ No. We need care and support, it's NOT the time to confront anything IN ADDITION to what we already had to confront!
@titanomachy2217
@titanomachy2217 3 ай бұрын
Religious zealot.
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