The early internet is breaking - here’s how the World Wide Web from the 90s on will be saved

[@hotseventyfive]

2005: be careful what you put in the internet, it’ll be there forever 2019:

[@20035079]

posts are temporary, screenshots are forever

[@sweiland75]

1999: This Internet thing is gonna be huge! 2019: I wish we could go back to before memes took over KZbin.

[@hullstar242]

sweiland75 did you live back then? KZbin was literally ALL memes.

[@crnkmnky]

@@hullstar242 "Literally?" You mean it wasn't vacation videos and webcam test footage?

[@justsomeone4347]

They stay if someone tries

[@nirui.o]

In the 90s, the Internet was like a independent country. Everything is so chaos, vibrant and personal. Today, you are bound to few companies that put their rules in front their users. The most sad thing is, people has forgotten that they are creators, and they don't need someone grant them that title.

[@KirbyLinkACW]

Well, there's also the day Net Neutrality was established. And the day it was repealed...

[@capnbarky2682]

Except it's not The greater internet is more varied and vibrant than ever, most people just literally dont know how to access websites safely outside of apps.

[@razzlfraz]

@@fluffmiceter1846 It has for me. I'm on gigabit duplex fiber. (I've been on fiber since 2001.) I'm allowed to use 1% of my upload for anything during off hours, and a little less than 0.1% during busy hours, and 10% of my download. Everything else has to be in AT&Ts fast lane, so getting a proxy of vpn doesn't help. Some websites I visit download like dialup now, despite me having a 1.5ms ping time and the server is down the street. Before the end of net neutrality even people on cable with the common 20mbps upload in this part of the world, it was far faster than what I have today. Please please please, get net neutrality back. It's only going to get worse in the future.

[@ryanm1630]

KirbyLinkACW literally nothing has changed

[@Miquelalalaa]

Rui Ni And governments are controlling, regulating, and censuring the internet to their will.

[@yussefjeber3904]

Preserve 90s Internet for the sake of the future of vaporwave aesthetics

[@q_q123]

They're good vaporwave material

[@AnotherWorldYT]

@Serious Face two separate things and one in the same nowadays

[@hardyzme]

In the 90s there were no brown pakistanis on the internet

[@romarbetc123]

This stuff is incredibly a e s t h e t i c

[@abishaakmal7455]

@@GodsBadAssBlade outrun is basicly synthwave... 80s vaporwave is 90s

[@pepsijazz462]

So much from the 90's and early 2000's internet culture has been lost.

[@eduardocampos5739]

That squiggle will live on

[@ar_xiv]

And all that remains is dixie cup bullshit

[@jayfawn8478]

Tbh, today's webpages are more appealing. clean, user friendly and sleek

[@linadw]

@@jayfawn8478 It's true -- it's precisely because of universal UX design principles that all websites look the same these days, for optimal usability. But as the video points out, it means that all the distinct personalities of the old era of webpages are gone. They might have been crappy looking, but at least people were able to design them in a way that really reflected their sense of self.

[@ar_xiv]

( I like Dixie cup bullshit btw)

[@BvousBrainSystems]

Of all the videos sponsored by Squarespace, they really should have sponsored this one

[@daniele9209]

They basically said that all the new websites sucks because thanks to programs like squarespace they all look alike. How does this sounds like a good marketing campaign to you?

[@yudikurina1871]

you didnt watch through the whole video Bvous :/

[@technopoptart]

@@daniele9209 yes.

[@Toxodos]

that's a major point, even if you cut out the explicit mention, it's pretty much implied

[@opus53waldstein70]

I wish to have also recording archives of KZbin before 2010s, because all I hear now is excessive uptalk -_-

[@Goldenclap]

I'm so intrigued by the aesthetic and limitations of older websites. Even when they look awful, the charm is unmistakable while every modern site feels like an apple store, selling me stuff at every turn.

[@NaldinhoGX]

Back when the internet was managed and kept alive by the users themselves with little to no corporation influencing any interaction. Today, everything's polluted because the users no longer have control over it - we let others "do the job" for us just for the sake of convenience; therefore, like you mentioned, the internet now feels like an infinite advertisements playground where creativity is killed more and more every day.

[@damian9303]

That's kinda sad to see people who ran those sites say 'BE PATIENT I'M WORKING ON IT' yet a final product was never made

[@FirestormDDash]

Like games of today

[@SmilingDepression]

lmao

[@jgill3881]

I didn’t come here to feel :(

[@q_q123]

:(

[@Daniele63]

maybe they are still working on it, who knows

[@hasztagpuasko9349]

the conclusion is - Yahoo destroys the internet. First they bought geocities to close it down and then tumblr to ruin it~

[@Cheezburgercatz]

hasztagpułasko large companies destroy everything by buying IPs and services they have no intention of maintaining or caring about for the user base. Instead cutting it off after it stops being a zero effort money farm or the ads they load it with don’t work for revenue bc everyone’s broke or the service should be free lol

[@GeorgiaOverdrive]

Excuse me, what is this Yahoo?

[@ItsBrendo]

Honey, tumblr was ruined long before Yahoo acquired it.

[@sentrysapper45]

It's not just Yahoo: Google, Viacom, Warner Bros...pretty much all tech and media giants share the blame in this. Just look at what happened here on KZbin after Google bought it out. I have an old account I made back in 2006, and the Favorites playlist is a video graveyard from deleted channels, many of which fell victim to spurious copyright strikes from entities like WMG. Meanwhile Google did and still does practically nothing to stop it while their anti-consumer algorithms strangle the once-vibrant creativity and expressiveness of early KZbin. Big business in conjunction with government officials they've bought out are slowly turning the internet into a sterile, corporate-friendly hellscape. Things are only going to get worse with recent developments like the end of net neutrality here in the US and Article 13 in the EU. Now more than ever preservation of the early internet is essential, as its freewheeling, almost anarchic ways might just provide the solutions we need.

[@AsphaltAntelope]

@@ItsBrendo Babe, it wasn't. Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean that it wasn't working well for the communities that thrived there - be they furries or sapio-pan-quasi-sexuals or whatever. It's easy to take the piss out of them but they had a community and a place to group together and it worked well for them. Fuck Yahoo. They killed Flickr too. How the fuck can you kill Flickr?

[@marcusatiusvirilis7723]

The internet may have been much simpler, but there was a better mindset. You weren't only a user, you were a builder. It was decentralized and mostly anonymous. I think we should bring back this stuff or at least the mentality.

[@ruggjay]

be the change you want to see

[@bluex217]

It was also a goldmine for freelancing frontend developers. Nowadays, small and even medium sized businesses opt for a FB page and have much less need for a website

[@forestjohnson7474]

I 2nd that

[@WarpedBlinds]

The old internet was more personal. Today's internet just feels like a giant ad :/

[@ukkomies100]

This

[@shin-ishikiri-no]

@@kosmique Not enuff upvotes.

[@JosipMiller]

So true. I remember my first website, devoted to music and audio. I n every part of that website people can feel YOU speaking about things.

[@kylehill3643]

Smartphone mindset! They mostly do shopping. When smartphones first came out I'll never forget the ads of teenage girls holding them and scrolling fast to their favorite shopping sites. That favors over personalism. We are under 'crapitalism'.

[@kylehill3643]

@@JosipMiller All the websites I liked either no longer update or not there anymore especially fan project websites. :( Many say promises they don't keep. It feels like we live in the Outer Limits. Do NOT attempt to adjust the picture.

[@draizze8329]

Ah, geocities. I remembered making own personal page after learning HTML. It's like decorating your own room then show it off to friends.

[@Bruno-qw8gl]

Goodbye, flash player, you made the childhood for many

[@japzone]

And now Flash is being retired in a year, breaking even more stuff from the 2000s. Tons of old Flash games and animations especially. Thankfully BlueMaxima's FlashPoint is scrambling to archive it all, but it'll still just be a drop in the bucket.

[@xanescent]

japzone I’m actually downloading as many old games as I can from my childhood that were flash games. Although I can’t get everything, and many have already been deleted :(

[@japzone]

@@toad8840 Browsers are dropping support for Flash because it's a security risk. The plugin APIs that Flash uses have pretty much been retired already, and the only reason Flash still works is because browser makers made short-term concessions to it in order to ease the transition. Flash really isn't necessary anymore, it's just that there's still a ton of legacy content that's floating out there. It's not a problem that could be solved with a petition. You'd be better off just doing what you can to support things like Archive.org and BlueMaxima's FlashPoint.

[@litjellyfish]

toad adobe? It has nothing to do with adobe. It’s google / chrome who is deprecating the support of automatic flash embedding. And of course since Adobe knew this they discontinued their evolution of flash. Instead flash as a forward is now called adobe Animate and outputs HTLM5. So you can make the same stuff with flash today and run it without a flash player. This happened like 5 years ago... Now it’s the official deprecation happening. It’s done. You are a little late with your petition. About 5 year late :)

[@WindowsEater]

RIP Everybody Edits, Possibly Newgrounds, and most likely *EVERY **_SINGLE_* flash gaming site there is/was.

[@moochincrawdad]

Does anyone know how to download "Capoeira Fighter 3" so it'll run standalone?

[@lidette711]

My last HTML school web design project was a site for my favorite manga. Damn, those were the days.

[@kaibaCorpHQ]

That's what I hate about FaceBook the most today, I hated FB back then for it, and I still hate it for it today (and other numerous privacy reasons aswell more recently); FB was stale, it was white and blue, and no personality, Myspace was the opposite of that, so customizable and yet uniform is what won out.

[@ian_b]

OS's are the same. The Win 10 interface isn't as awful looking as Win 8, but I am still mystified as to why they think it's more stylish to be unable to tell where one window ends and another one starts.

[@ella1135]

And an awful uniform. I think Facebook looks so messy and ugly. No personality at all

[@bilbo_gamers6417]

@@ian_b XP and 7 had a different kind of feel to them.

[@ian_b]

@@bilbo_gamers6417 I liked Win 7, but with the classic Start Menu added back in. Much of what they've taken out was to make the interface run on low end devices and small screens, and they stripped out most of the customisation. I still resent (on 10) having such limited colour choices.

[@BSIII]

@@ian_b exactly. I couldnt understand why everyone was flocking over to a flavorless, sterile, datamining site like facebook from the customizable myspace. The fact that I couldnt upload my music straight to facebook like my myspace, made me stay away for a while. Buuuttt, i eventually made a fb to find my sister, who i havent heard from in years, and myspace died... i still regret making my fb. I hate that platform. When i stopped logging on, it started sending me updates through my text messages, which i never asked them to do. Fb is a DARPA project, called 'lifelog' re-branded as facebook. Look that one up

[@JayFGrissom]

Wow... this made me realize how much I miss this (angelfire, geocities, altavista, dialup bbs, aol, junos, etc...) weirdness of my youth. Great video. Sigh. I feel super nostalgic now.

[@junelynn63]

Angelfire made me attempt to learn html

[@RealIllumin]

Ah Altavista... How I loved thee! Best search engine ever. Until you know who bought and killed it.

[@JayFGrissom]

@@RealIllumin - In hindsight they could have called it "Ya-HALT-avista". Yahoo's approach to halt the competition.

[@RealIllumin]

@@JayFGrissom Agreed, "broke" my internet heart back in the day when it went downhill. Never used anything Yahoo since.

[@ilhaanf663]

Altavista, that was our Google back then. You're taking me back, back to my teen years

[@dualshock3462]

I don't miss only the early 00s style, I miss the state of the internet of the early 00s. Back then you could use the internet in internet cafe where you had to pay for using it or at home only with computer and some of them were limited (some people couldn't use the phone and internet at the same time) so you could control your "addiction" by just leaving the house and visit clubs, cafes, malls and other places that don't have internet cafe. Today every place has wi-fi, you can't visit places to hang out and talk to normal people anymore, internet connection is everywhere and everybody has phones that fit in their pocket so they are online 24/7. Even people who couldn't 10 years ago use a computer let alone use the internet are now on social media 24/7 thanks to wi-fi and smartphones. Internet was in the early 00s a magical place, today it became a drug for everybody

[@infesticon]

The white backgrounds really suck though, Like staring at a goddamm lightbulb. I do miss how personal websites used to be. Geocities was great.

[@infesticon]

@@toad8840 Give me some tips where to look dude.

[@shaggypoo4120]

@@infesticon neocities

[@infesticon]

@@shaggypoo4120 nice one thank you.

[@electron8262]

@@shaggypoo4120 Yessss! Thanks for the tip!

[@catcatdeluxe1332]

@@shaggypoo4120 yeah i use that

[@spiderliliez]

AHAAHHAHAA... I was one of those people who created those crazy cluttered websites back in the late 90s, complete with distracting button GIFs. I think it was uploaded at Angelfire or Geocities. I remember my first website was a fansite about a Brazilian volleyball player who plays at the Women's Grand Prix. I wish I had saved those html files. I dunno where they went now!

[@mancerrss]

Thank you for influencing the current internet culture we have now, that back then was ridiculed is a shame, now it's mainstream!!

[@spiderliliez]

@Christian William yes, oh my word... IKR? Oh the golden days of the internet, hahahah.. Oh and the Brazilian player was Leila Barros... ahahahah!

[@notinuse926]

@@spiderliliez oh she's a senator now and she's causing quite an uproar with the gamer community saying that games aren't sports (e-sports i mean)

[@crnkmnky]

@@notinuse926 😯 ooh, edgy. Hopefully that discussion didn't get _too_ vicious, and hopefully the senator was able to observe real e-sports competitors to inform her opinion.

[@spiderliliez]

@Christian William ahahahaha.. actually i am not in the US. The Women's Grand Prix Tour use to frequent Asian countries in the late 90s. I remember watching Brazil VS. Cuba, and it was so intense! And Leila was sooo adorable with her short hair back then (she is still gorgeous until now). I met her and Ricarda Lima quite a few times during their tour!! The Brazilian team was warm and friendly, I remember that. And, yes!!! I heard about her being a Senator now! I'm very very happy for her!!! Are you from Brazil?!!

[@setsuro.splice]

my sentiments exactly. websites these days lacks any... personal touch. I miss the late 1990s and early 2000s. sighhh, good times, good times.

[@susiemurray8599]

im 14 so i never even lived in the 90s but this makes me feel a strange sense of nostalgia for a life ill never live

[@ChristianJiang]

2:23 Dragon, but with an “A” Me: Wait, “Dragon” already has an “A”!

[@IdRatherNotHaveAHandleThankYou]

Daagon? Draaon? Dragoa? Aragon?

[@lisaishere0919]

I was confused when she said with an A lolll

[@MultiVigarista]

Dragan

[@IdRatherNotHaveAHandleThankYou]

MultiVigarista its a joke

[@denisenova7494]

Adragan

[@ladymecha8718]

I had a geocities page, and it was special to me. I still have my website backed up on my computer. I do miss the citizenship it had and gave you.

[@SleepingCocoon]

reupload it to neocities!

[@FarrFromPerfect]

I used to have my winamp playlist on one. It was live updated once a week. I miss that.

[@eklim2034]

internet was meant to level playing field, it was not meant for high concentration of power into very few players, let's hope internet 2.0 blockchain technology would help realising internet's original purpose

[@litjellyfish]

EK Lim nope it was just a medium. That evolved. And with that comercial thinking entered. Like in all other mediums.

[@TorreFernand]

the "Web 2.0" moniker refers to... the comments section Web 3.0 just means more metadata (i.e. web pages being written more for search engines than for humans)

[@azazellon]

My uncle threw away a Windows 95 For Dummies book, I just liked reading about the early internet terms and like, stumbling around the net.

[@cavejohnson4306]

I think the original space jam website is still up, so if you want to see a still working website from 1996 try to find it.

[@robobox7595]

I have that book, there is little about the internet execpt for info about HyperTerminal and MSN.

[@azazellon]

@@robobox7595 yeah it was basically "how to use a computer" in 1995

[@Johioe]

@@cavejohnson4306 i tried to go to it recently, now its just a website for the new space jam movie.

[@cyberponiez]

I love the old internet so much. I’m too young to have experienced it in its prime, so I’ve been using Neocities. I’ve been able to make my own 90s-esque website and be in a community of people doing the same thing!

[@cyberponiez]

that being said - use neocities! it’s perfect!

[@heartrockingcity]

I agree, but it is mostly middle web (2000s), but anyways still classified as early web

[@papasmurfsmurfy6360]

The same thing happened to film 100 years ago. At least something is happening about it this time.

[@im.empimp]

e.g. Dr. Who ˚‧º·(˚ ˃̣̣̥᷄⌓˂̣̣̥᷅ )‧º·˚

[@tornadomimicyclone6707]

Not to mention Always Online DRM, which leads to games getting nuked when that shouldn't be the case.

[@renee1390]

“Then they got married..... to each other” Oh my god they were roommates

[@konstantingeist3587]

the Internet is becoming more TV-like

[@tornadomimicyclone6707]

Actually, it's going on the same route as ITV: From a bunch of regions with unique identities to one effectively homogenized look.

[@avatarmary]

Reminds me of in the 90s and early 00s when I'd look at sailor moon and ronin warriors stuff online...good times

[@Aerynvala]

That was fun, seeing my old GeoCities site in this. And I'm glad people are archiving the web.

[@andree1991]

This is such an important thing to do. They truly are heroes

[@mat2468xk]

I know it's not that old, but I mostly miss the culture and mindset of the 2007 - 2013 internet era. The "lol random epic win xD" culture back then was honestly endearing, and I feel like the memes were mostly focused on having fun. I like the improvements on the internet in general nowadays, and I still like some of the memes. Maybe I was too young to understand, but I feel like people were much "nicer" in that era.The sheer amounts of edgelords in social media is honestly just exhausting to look at already. Sure, there were edgy content in that era, but I feel like it's fewer or at least harder to find (i.e. you have to dig deeper into certain sites). That, and I'm pretty sure some of them weren't too hostile (some of the memes now are straight to the point harassment). Well, at least the screamers disappeared. That's one thing I don't miss from the 2007 - 2013 internet era, lmao. So glad for that.

[@WulfLovelace]

I have to agree with the sentiment. It felt like the internet was much nicer back then as well. I didn't feel like I had to defend myself against countless shitlords and edge masters as I do today. Online now adays feels - I don't know how it got this bad. But I been playing online games since online games existed. People were much nicer in MMOs for example, someone would walk up to you and be like, you're new lemme show you what you need to do. Where as I started an MMO in todays culture and you aren't greeted by a random stranger just helping you out, you just meet people on the chatbox telling you to "git gud" and you're like....okay thanks I guess. Or for example the fighting game community I find atrocious and bars people of different skill levels because of the git gud cultures. How this applies online is Discord and VC online is just kind of toxic.

[@q_q123]

I agree so much to this. I miss saying "rawr XD", "yolo swag", or "trololol". The internet had personality and was actually fun. Now it's just toxic.

[@connors3356]

I wholeheartedly agree man. Im not nostalgic for anything, but there definitely was a shift in 2014-15 in the internet. Everything ebbs and flows I guess

[@danielsjohnson]

I think one of the reasons why the early internet, and to a lesser extent the 2007-2013 era, had less edgelords was because the barrier to entry was higher. People were on the internet because they wanted to be, they knew how to, and had some specific purpose. Today, being online is the default way of life for most people. Being the default, naturally, means you get more low quality junk than if being offline was the default.

[@danielsjohnson]

@@WulfLovelace that probably has something to do with more kids than adults (or at least more immature kids than mature kids) being in those games. World of Warcraft Classic (coming out August 27) will hopefully recreate that mood.

[@Matando]

Holy crap... I'm only 26 yet this video made me feel so OLD! I remember all of this.... Oof

[@UltraNyan]

You sound like 16

[@sebastiansanchez2776]

You look like an egg

[@supasempai]

Same here, but aside from website, MIRC, Yahoo Messenger, damn it, back then, the web was very personalize and literally sociable

[@drewtheartists8479]

I’m 18 so I can’t remember the earlier internet or the 90s

[@Matando]

@@supasempai I've logged into BBS via a phone line. This predated the internet...... Oof

[@MapleMilk]

The early web is its own form of art It's got an aesthetic untapped since proto vaporwave

[@mind-of-neo]

I LIVE for the 90s cyber aesthetic so it's very important to me for these early internet websites to be preserved so they can be explored and enjoyed forever.

[@gkv633]

Brings back nostalgic memories from 2007 when I first used internet. Everything has changed so much.

[@FaaduProductions]

Do you remember free loop gprs?

[@joseherrera5264]

Same! Though I first was online around 2009. I was 9 at the time :p

[@litjellyfish]

You should have been around in 1994. They we can talk about things changing

[@FaaduProductions]

@@litjellyfish r/gatekeeping

[@shyguy85]

@@FaaduProductions lmao ok redditor

[@MikeDragon]

I've been a user of the early web. Connecting via dial-up on a Pentium III late at night because it was cheaper and less likely that someone would use the phone to make or receive a call, wait several hours to download an MP3, chat with friends on MSN Messenger under Windows 98, ME and 2000 on a 15" CRT monitor, making backups on 1.44MB floppy disks, playing games off of CD-ROMs for countless hours, waiting several minutes for a site to load, spending hours doing image searches on Internet Explorer 5... Good times. Good memories. :')

[@drewbocop]

Back in the mid to late 90s, my sister who was older than me learned HTML, I learned HTML/CSS at age 8, all my friends began learning to do web dev and we were all webmasters of our own shitty little hand-coded web sites. As kids. I miss those days quite honestly. The nostalgia is very real and I absolutely commend these people for trying to preserve the old net. It is very important to me and many other people.

[@wayfarerzen]

Archiveteam, you guys are heroes. This is so much more important than a lot of people realize.

[@ingframin]

What I miss the most was the content. Nowadays, people are obsessed with the “attention span” and do not write a lot of actual content anymore. Also, I remember that there were way less ads. Now you need to dig into the ads to find what you are looking for. The last thing that I miss is the discovery. Now people are tracked and only gets presented what an algorithm wants them to see. Back then there was more exploration freedom.

[@21Shells]

Almost every website you visit nowadays is beautifully designed, and has decades of research of psychology and art behind it, making it as navigatable and pleasing on the eyes as possible. Old websites kind of let you appreciate how much effort goes into the average website nowadays, but its also just fun. I do kind of wish more people made their own websites.

[@zotac1018]

Hey, there is this website called as the internet archive please go and check that out if you are interested. It has been doing the stuff they are talking about here for years now.

[@frogsfoot]

it’s sad to see everyone mourning the indie web when it’s still out there! places like neocities (a geocities revival project) are a great springboard for finding people who still treat the internet like a blank canvas. you can make a bad website too! everyone i’ve met there has been so friendly and willing to help people with a limited knowledge of html coding! the best way to prevent something from disappearing is to make more of it!

[@empirebaran5060]

I checked it now Cool project

[@tonykuchar3237]

if you're into mid-late 90s internet culture and aesthetics you gotta play the game Hypnospace Outlaw

[@FAB1150]

And this is why Quartz will never be sponsored by squarespace again

[@RudieObias]

I remember when you had to dial into the internet and if you didn't have a dedicated phone line, no one in your house could make or receive calls. We also all didn't have smartphones or even cell phones back then either. You'd have to hope you weren't going to get an important phone call when you were online back in the '90s.

[@Qznews]

Ah yes! Some of us at Quartz remember the 'cool' friends with a second phone line just for the internet.

[@RudieObias]

@@Qznews Also, all websites should bring back guestbooks. Haha!

[@Qznews]

Wonderful suggestion! LOL!!!

[@nowthatsjustducky]

Actually, they could make outgoing calls. All they had to do was pick up the phone to knock you offline, hang up, then pick it up again. :)

[@nowthatsjustducky]

@@Qznews Remember how that newfangled phone feature known as Call Waiting would kill your connection? And back then, even if you did have a dedicated second line, those telemarketers and robocallers could not tell the difference between a line being used for voice and one for data, so your dedicated line was just as vulnerable to being called by these early parasites as your voice line. Fortunately, I think it was *70 before the phone number that disabled call waiting. No idea nowadays.

[@WebGoonie]

Be sure to sign my Guest Book! I miss these days. Websites took forever to load but dang was it worth it.

[@kylehill3643]

Guest book page not found! Whoops! :)

[@alejandraesquer155]

Who else used to visit cartoon doll geocities websites in the early oughts? Drag-n-drop dollmakers, blinkies,tagboards? THIS is what we did as pre-teens. Learn to draw pixel kawaii poo on ms paint long before it became main stream...meet other pre-teen girls on forums dedicated to said cute graphics. ;~; miss those times.

[@muglymae7408]

i miss seeing the old geocities, angelfire, and tripod hosted sites. they made going on the Internet exciting and an adventure

[@VITORB82]

OMG the nostalgia... these years made me want to be a web developer...so much freedom. I miss thise days. Will investigate more this project.

[@ninja_raven256]

For anyone wanting to replicate the days of old, use neocities. The whole point of that website is to bring back nostalgia for old web trends and to be able to make your own stuff.

[@jamestheminorbender4978]

Vaporwave aesthetics or Anything related to aesthetics will surely save this piece of beauty

[@mittelego1098]

The old internet was so much better. Everything has been commercialized nowadays.

[@Btvstudio]

I love these 2! I remember learning HTML 2.0 to make my own websites in the 90's.

[@zinAab79]

I love internet, I know is old and unusable, but it was honest and manually crafted by people, now with all experts and templates it all feels perfect and profesionally done, all blogs look the same, similar happens with new pages, all of them asking you to log in with your gmail account, is boring. Old webs were just a mistery into the mind of the creators, entering a new section felt like really entering a new space designed for it, it was fun to grow on these times.

[@CS-nw9si]

I taught myself basic HTML on the Nickelodeon message boards when I was a kid. Flash going away now makes me so sad. I miss the early Internet so much.

[@ravenphin2406]

30 years from now I bet that there’ll be digital historians saving the memes from our time 😂

[@toasterbotnet]

Datahoarders is the correct nomenclature and we are already on it. Quietly collecting content on our storage servers.

[@LongTailCat3]

most memes after 2018 arent worth saving

[@xIzephael]

Let's face it, we may fantasize on the feeling of personality personal web pages had, but if someone would make a personal site today, you would not log into it as frequently as you did back then. We all stay confined to our main big sites and social medias, and the other ones are there for you to find an information and then be forgotten.

[@Qznews]

This is true, not only has the look of the internet changed - but also the way we use the internet.

[@AverageGuy2002]

Don't worry Google won't exist(probably) in next 100 years

[@LongWaster]

this is part of what makes neocities great - you can follow a website and it will let you know when the owner edits it.

[@Me-rd7po]

When I was 8 I learned html and made my website. It was a totally chatic site. I put cats pics , pink buttons , a pink meniu bar and a pastel pink search bar. I forgot the name but I would love to see it again.

[@wannabehistorian371]

I was a 2000s kid, so I saw some old-school websites. ...But why does this feel so nostalgic? This video has made me miss something I’ve barely experienced.

[@RealIllumin]

Because nostalgia goes around in ~20 year cycles. e.g. You can't be (technically) nostalgic for things that are under 10 years old.

[@Phlegethon]

look at these old people pretending like they don't know how to navigate the internet in the 90s when they actually lived through it.

[@Qznews]

Sick burn 🔥

[@xtrashocking]

hahahahha

[@kylehill3643]

I miss Lycos.

[@nowthatsjustducky]

Could be a use it or lose it thing. I'm finally getting around to getting an old Linux system back up and running, and am also looking at tinkering around with some classic DOS/Win 3.x era systems and I know it is going to take me a good while just to get back up to speed on the old school hardware. That is likely why I keep procrastinating those activities, so those projects are currently Under Construction

[@AprilTee]

I've been following this Tumblr and I had no idea that it was part of a huge project.

[@nasranruwaidi]

My first web page was hosted on Tripod. Best viewed with Netscape Navigator. 😃

[@erikdallas8644]

Thank you so very much for the wonderful video. You brought back so many memories. I don't know what we are supposed to do now. The internet is a very different place.

[@TheStarBlack]

I remember building an angelfire page in the late 90s to post photos of our nights out before Facebook or MySpace. Funny thing is, digital cameras were incredibly rare back then so I'd take photos on film then scan them into my PC to upload! Used to take hours now you can do it in seconds on your phone!

[@jamestheminorbender4978]

My obsession with aethetics and old stuffs is quacking right now.

[@nowthatsjustducky]

This times infinity... ^^^^^

[@summysums]

Really hope that people are working to properly save flash games. Those things are a gem that I always come back to ❤️

[@occultbass]

this made me so sad :( i miss the old internet it was so cool

[@danielsjohnson]

If anyone is wondering, the anime at 3:21-3:23 was "Fushigi Yuugi: The Mysterious Play".

[@ethan82714]

At least my HTML and CSS skills look old style. Because I'm bad at HTML and CSS.

[@inseut]

Same!

[@AhnafAbdullah]

Same,that's what I was taught at school

[@Luischocolatier]

I remember this website I used to access when I was a little kid, like 5 or 6 years old. It was called something like Serena1 and it had little flash games with gifs, all of them with holiday or vacation themes like Christmas, Halloween, Easter, Summer... You usually had cities to build and you did that by picking from the gifs on the lower half of the srceen and dragging them up to the upper half, arranging them how you wanted. I especially loved the Halloween city. I tried to look for it a couple years ago, but it had disappeared.

[@davdjimenez1150]

Loved this vid, shame more didn’t appreciate it

[@Qznews]

We appreciate you appreciating our cool internet vid! Thanks for watching!

[@dyrr836]

These two are heroes, god bless them and their work. Keep fighting the good fight! All of us who lived this era thank you, as long as we all keep the spirit of the vintage web preserved it will NEVER truly be gone.

[@AfkaSound]

God bless my childhood, filled with dragonballz animations and geocities

[@HacksignKT]

This honestly hits me hard... back then there were a lot of great sites that had stories for me to read from Tenchi Muyo to Pokemon but now they are all gone. :c

[@DavidWonn]

I really miss the mid-1990s WWW. You could do a net search on almost any topic and browse all results in a reasonable time. For instance, searching "Mario Kart" had less than 30 results. Additionally ads were nearly non-existent, and pages weren’t very bloated. They had to be simple because nearly everyone was on dial-up. Yahoo buying geocities in the late 90s was the beginning of the end of the Golden Age of the Internet. They invented the pop-ups and watermarks that would plague users for many years (though disabling JavaScript helped.) Sure, we’ve had KZbin since the mid-2000s, so everything is a tradeoff, but I do wish at times I could trade it all to go back a couple decades.

[@Dumb_Killjoy]

I'm pretty sure it was Tripod that invented popup ads

[@hhthoj]

I would love to see a distributed version of this project, IPFS for example. It will both promote the use of distributed file storage and gain community more contribution to it, as well as archiving the early web.

[@ybot1]

these websites look like ones we created in secondary school as we were learning how to create html sites using code

[@lisaishere0919]

Dame reminds me so much of those computer class in the early 2000s. Wondering what kids (the net native) are doing today in school computer class...

[@BryanTan]

The video game Hypnospace Outlaw does a great job at nailing the 90s Geocities vibes, but in an alternate universe where people can browse the Web while sleeping.

[@Qznews]

Ever dream you were searching the web or filling out spreadsheets on the computer?

[@BryanTan]

That'll probably be a sign that I was way overworked 😅 Now that I think about it, the netizens of Hypnospace Outlaw weren't seen to do jobs in Hypnospace, apart from some advertising their services. Only the admin staff + enforcers (which you are part of) are actually on the clock. Makes sense that the last thing you'd want to do in your dreams is more mundane work/school stuff May be worth your while giving the game a try! It really bundles up a lot of the 90s Internet into a tight package - the music, the animated gifs, the young & old netizens bumbling through web design, etc. Intriguing main storyline peppered with the ongoing live stories of the citizens of Hypnospace.

[@AamirBilal]

"Very short period of my life when I was making fun." Sums up my life. 01:12

[@bryanpedrosa8061]

I don't know but I like old web page designs. It's my AEsthetic.

[@YounRangr]

Thank you for saving Geocities 🙏✌🏽

[@baumkuchens]

you can always use wayback machine to access vintage webs. not everything is in there tho

[@FirestormDDash]

Honestly i always enjoyed the animated gifs of that day. Also losing all of my StumbleUpon sites was a big hit too.

[@eris4734]

I saw this video, and I was like, hey I know some basic html. I could make a website. Now I'm working on one. I'll probably give up on it in a few months, but it's just a fun project. I'm not trying to recreate any style or anything, just trying to make a place that's personal, and where I can put interesting stuff. I wasn't even alive during the 90's. I have no idea what that era was like. But I do enjoy having control and customization options over as much as possible. Maybe I should have done this a while ago.

[@bluesquare23]

To be honest a lot of those early websites had no defined purpose because it was just people experimenting. And that’s fun for a while till you realize you gotta pay hosting costs. There are still lots of people out there who do this type of stuff, although their aesthetic has changed a little. But those pages are buried under the weight of a corporate internet.

[@smappdooda]

I recently did a "website retrospective" video of all of my websites since 1998 and I had to recreate my very first website that was on Tripod. I was a little sad I couldn't find it archived anywhere.

[@Vnuckmusic]

Makes you wonder if the same thing will be being said about youtube 30 years later or so...it just starts dying and losing "old youtube" content

[@asky_2759]

Most of the anime pages I found had some sort of fanfiction... I guess people liked lemons just as much as we do

[@CoryEbenestelli]

I find it scary to think how much history could be lost forever fron this age. Digital storage is far more fragile than stone inscriptions

[@imodium438]

I now understand why the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids out of limestone blocks weighing anywhere from 2.5 to 20 tons - they wanted to leave a lasting legacy. We now have to find a way to pyramidize the internet. Hmm...

[@gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258]

Is there a website like Geocities now that hosts websites, I used to love doing searches on Geocities for different topics and seeing all the pages appear.

[@apostoffice]

neocities.org is pretty popular for ppl who miss geocities, but it's still relatively tiny. "Tilde" sites (eg tilde.town) also have significant communities for ppl who make old-school homepages / net art. There are other sites too but you kinda gotta dig for them bc they don't care about SEO

[@nowthatsjustducky]

@@apostoffice Wow! Just actually read fairly carefully through their TOS and AUP. I am impressed. I will be setting up an account there soon, I think.

[@wintutorials2282]

The story of Olia and Dragan is so cute actually

[@90AlmostFamous]

Loved the chaos, now we have to confirm to their stupid standards, like youtubes stupid creator manager or something

[@funstuffonthenet5573]

That Dragonball Z Hyper Dimension fight gif brings me back

[@Negentropy.]

Double uploads are the best uploads! What what

[@edwardbliss8931]

In the mid to late 90s, there was no concept of paying for printouts yet. So you'd have people standing at the printer for ten minutes while they print out 90 pages from Geocities and Tripod sites.

[@iamlost2788]

the biggest fall in history will be youtube itll happen someday eventually everything falls

[@moochincrawdad]

Somehow I don't think a one terabyte hard drive will hold all the KZbin content 😐

[@Raziffalyan]

@@moochincrawdad I doubt a million terrabyte will even hold all the videos haha.

[@katec3963]

People are already making better platforms, hopefully someone makes one that puts users and content creators first.

[@PohTrain]

YT deserves to die

[@nowthatsjustducky]

@@PohTrain Not until we have a drop in replacement ready to go immediately first.

[@jettsecret6416]

For anyone just seeing this video now, like me, sure, Geocities is dead, but the old/indie web still exists on places like Neocities. It's out there if you look for it, and looking for it means involving yourself in it too.