r/Choosingbeggars Cancel My Vacation? I'll Cost You $750,000!

[@silverflight01]

"Companies would rather pay massive fines than pay OP 10k" That's what happens when you have the wrong people in the higher position.

[@smashrosa8111]

That is way too common in those companies

[@ashh4929]

Just thinking that. This is why you don't screw over your indispensable employees. I love how he's so ham fisted saying "we need you too save the company" while saying "you aren't worth it you selfish little peon" in the same breath. 🙄

[@annika5893]

It was so hilarious that the boss just simply didn't get the fact that he was no longer in a position to bark orders. Also, all the higher ups got it wrong. "You already cost us 19k, we won't give you 10k!" They should have thought: how much MORE loss can we prevent if we give this guy 10k now.

[@sarahcb3142]

@Just wow Stop spamming everyone's comments with your link

[@Juju2927]

The real sucker punch move is also to imply that OP is the reason why other employes will lose their bonus / job. That's such a sucky move.

[@Olav_Hansen]

If a single employee can kill your company just by resigning for being underpaid, that in itself is proof that the employee was underpaid (or alternatively huge mismanagement).

[@LeatherDaddy97]

Yeah the boss is acting like its ops fault. They dug their grave

[@critterwhisperer5821]

be good get a life bot

[@darthandeddeu]

I've seen this recently. A new out of college guy comes in, works his ass of for 3 years. Realizes he's not growing further professionally or monetarily. Finds a new job. Only other guy who knows the program is 67. He gets tossed the extra workload with no raise. Puts in notice that he's retiring at the end of the month. Now they are down two key people at a time when people who are familiar with the program they use are on average getting more to start than what the young guy was making. Then finding a guy with the contacts that the older guy has will be more costly because of covid many in his age range took earlier retirements and are not doing consultant work part time as was the norm in the past for the industry. So all in all because the gm didn't want to pay 5000 more a year, the actions have cost 180,000 more per year minimum, plus a month of new work down time. To top it off, because of the downtime in getting new projects to the floor, those people will be looking elsewhere ( skilled trade) ( Manufacturing Machine Supplier, less than 50 employees)

[@hauntedshadowslegacy2826]

For anyone wondering, the spammed link is for a Muslim prayer. Just report it as spam. Don't bother going to the video.

[@MalorieCooper]

Probably both.

[@lmj2k]

I am living for the story where the OP resigned after having vacation cancelled at the last minute. If your company is brought to its knees by one person not coming to work, you’re doing something wrong. I mean, OP could have suddenly died, and this would have been the same disaster. Even moreso, if your company can be ground to a halt by a one-person revolt, might be a good idea to maybe not fuck that person over.

[@jcsjcs2]

Even worse was that they would cancel his vacation AND just tell him: too bad, you lost your vacation because it's the end of the year. I think this should be considered fraud.

[@paigeknight5844]

What was even more amusing was he was like "I don't even get paid that much, what makes you think you're entitled t that much pay?" Ummm.... maybe because without me the whole company goes under??

[@yozarahirvi4750]

@@paigeknight5844 That's even worse, that guy managed in the same message to tell "why do you think you deserve this much?" and "save this company" in Op shoes I'd probably say "Well, you answered your own question, well done !"

[@Ryanthusar]

@@jcsjcs2 - It was the manager doing the cancelling, you can bet HR were not on board by that.

[@seancarroll9849]

And this is why one doesn't bite the hand that feeds the company those meaty profits. It's a universal law: Don't mess with the IT guy.

[@FriedrichHerschel]

If the fine costs 19,000 $ an hour, why the heck is the company not willing to pay 10,000 $ a month for the employee? If the boss really laughed at that offer, he must suck at math.

[@sworddomo1951]

Then each employee would try the same. If the boss knew how to be discreet and not involve the manager, he could do it.

[@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763]

Incompetent management.

[@FriedrichHerschel]

@@sworddomo1951 At this rate paying every employee this would still be cheaper.

[@danielhughes3758]

It's not even per month, it's a one time fee. The only reason why they got into this situation in the first place is that they tried to screw OP out of vacation time and offered no compensation either when OP had been perfectly clear about when the requirements were needed. They could hire him temporarily as an outside contractor and not be forced to keep him but instead their client ends up doing the same and billing them for it. Absolutely brilliant! It cost them dearly but they had every chance to fix it and OP's offer was definitely reasonable given the situation they had caused.

[@grantteaton1727]

I would have responded to every text, incrementing the number by $10K for each one.

[@MiraTheWarlock]

If I ran a company and the one thing keeping it from dying is ONE person, I'd suck up so bad to remain in his good graces OPs boss really messed up DON'T PISS OFF THE IT GUY

[@jaxsonbateman]

It's just baffling the approach the manager takes. He can see that they're haemmoraghing money... and instead of changing his tune and trying to be amicable and work with the programming dude, he keeps making demands of him and talking down to him. Honestly, if his boss ever realises that his manner in dealing with the programmer is what cost them so much money, he should get canned so fast.

[@JasonW.]

@@mrich1976 the amount asked in hourly rate equates to near what that position should be paid normally. His contractor hourly rate should have been 300 or higher. He sold himself short.

[@jayzenitram9621]

@@mrich1976 $166K sounds like a lot less than $750k, so there's that.

[@kilerscn]

@@jayzenitram9621 This is exactly the point, on top of that they aren't really losing 166K, they are losing 166K minus what his previous wage was, so that more like 88K (with the signing bonus). That is far less than the 750K. They were losing 19K/h, in 5 hours they already lost more than the extra he was asking for the whole year.

[@ngeteengetee7589]

@be good stop posting these dumb af ads

[@norielbeato6102]

as an artist, seeing NFT in the first place is a huge major red flag.

[@1985toyotacamry]

My friend told me and I'm like what the hell is a NFT. Then he explains and I'm like that's sounds stupid.

[@norielbeato6102]

@@1985toyotacamry There's more than that. This video just made an example out of this

[@BronzeDragon133]

As an artist, seeing "Choosing Beggars" is a huge red flag. :-) I only do it in my spare time--and I'm a talented amateur at best--but they still scare me.

[@SendarSlayer]

@@1985toyotacamry I mean tech wise NFTs are a great idea. Decentralised and secure. Its a neat way to actually prove ownership of digital only goods. But these NFT apes and shit are just cashing in on the hype of new tech where people confused NFT for coins because they both use similar tech.

[@Ruchunteur]

@@SendarSlayer Meh, even tech wise I don't think NFT is great. You can't protect your images to be be copied, you just have proof that you own it in case someone trying to use your picture in a commercial way. And the blockchain isn't great for the environment so the price of this ownership proof is much higher than what you paid for.

[@Darkoli3939]

A lot of bosses are actually so dumb to piss of the wrong people who keep their company running. I saw that a lot of times already.

[@WorriedtheCircusDemon]

Some people just don't seem to learn sadly....

[@smarti1809]

that literally happened at my current company. my boss pissed off the one person who did billing. he couldn't even do it himself.

[@jayzo]

@@LouisE-mp8lx It's the power, it's like a drug. They're so high on the power they wield they start to lose touch with reality. Like "actual" drugs there's people who can psychologically handle them in a given amount and those who can't. Managers need to be picked by seeing who isn't just going to abuse their power, except the company want someone who'll get high on their power and rule with excessive force, and the employees want someone who'll have their back, and funnily enough the employees wishes produce better managers and more productive teams. I've seen it happen in my workplace, nice people become uncaring assholes.

[@Jdabomb93]

@@jayzo It falls apart from the inside out. 🏢🔥 Can’t expect to be successful, if you aren’t balanced out internally. ⚖️

[@sniperofbuffalo]

That last one should've been ProRevenge instead of Choosingbeggars, that was brutal, lol.

[@itsOasus]

why not both?

[@sleepyearth]

At least the client's business manager is more useful than the entire company combined. She's much more decisive and can see thru all the crap OP's company is pulling.

[@darthandeddeu]

@@sleepyearth exactly, heard something outrageous, checked to see if it was true, determined it was not. Made a decision. Gave an option, but with strings attached and no future promises. One hell of a negotiation.

[@moosecat]

I daresay that's nuclear revenge.

[@darkdrp]

Nuclear

[@somebody4952]

God, to have the power to make a company squirm like that one op did

[@wesleyharris1723]

The true definition of “people don’t leave jobs, they leave horrible, bad crappy bosses.”

[@critterwhisperer5821]

Wesley Harris indeed. Ooooh pretty bird. Sorry saw a Beaty outside my window.

[@Tooterbooter]

They shoulda cut their losses and taken the offer

[@907liondancer2]

This is why you dont piss off your best worker. Period. Hope those shitty managers and CEOs learned a valuable lesson. You. Are. Not. Replaceable.

[@gabrote42]

That's the magic of being a dev for a non-soft company. You have VetinariJobSecurity if they don't hear you out

[@theavatarofinsanity]

Pro Tipp: If you're gonna set up your company in such a way that 1 person is that integral to your success then you better be sure to never ever, EVER piss of that one person.

[@DrkWhiteWolf]

There are stories about this happening in corporations in the Game EVE online. Now because you say it's a game, understand that they do work with REAL money. And so often, you have 1 person who is really good with number management that ends up taking care of the accounts for a Corp of dozens to hundreds of people... until you piss them off and they Ghost everyone.

[@ReigoVassal]

The first mistake is that they don't hire another people that could do OP's work. There's ton of benefit from that. Even if it might be looks like a waste of money by the higher ups. What if OP suddenly died in an accident.

[@gabrote42]

VetinariJobSecurity is something that you want to avoid

[@gabrote42]

@@DrkWhiteWolf hilarious. When was that? The imperium? Casino wars? Late scarcity? First Upwells? Annoikis?

[@annfranksus1531]

"You gambled and you lost" yea, the boss gambled on their employee having no back bone and subsequently lost

[@jaxsonbateman]

@Just wow You are just awful. Spamming shitty links like that makes people want to be less religious, so you're really just hurting your cause and making people hate you as a person. Well done. >.>

[@vsgfilmgroup]

The amazing part is that they had the nerve to tell him that AFTER revealing the company was losing $19K an hour.

[@sleepyearth]

@Just wow Stop spamming your religious crap and stop liking your own comments.

[@awesome27677]

KEKW, i can't tell you how many times i have smiled as at such statements.

[@ДмитрийГусарев-ж8ъ]

Funny how that company manager in the last story was saying that OP wasn't needed that badly to pay his rates....and then kept demanding OP go back to work for god knows how many hours. "You gambled and you lost" Sounds like YOU are the one who lost Jimbo.

[@RicardoGantusa]

The fact that OP can bring the company to its knees means that he should be paid more than his boss

[@StoutShako]

They sent Jimbo back to the fucking shadow realm.

[@brunobruno-c1d]

@@RicardoGantusa yeah exactly, his boss could've been replaced by any uptight idiot, but apparently the programmer couldnt also trying to shame someone into accepting a job while also undercutting how much they're worth is so dumb if the guy is gonna lose you less than 19k/hour then go and give the money already, jeez

[@w_alderson21]

"Have you ever heard of NFTs-" *and like that, you've lost me.*

[@danielbrant6740]

Hi Alucard!🤣

[@vsgfilmgroup]

Somebody named Victor Chaos is on line one....

[@TheWolfie234]

The fact the boss tried to keep ordering OP as a 'friend' AND AFTER OP QUITS. Is just... Disgustingly bad. How big or small of an ego you have to have to think you have control over a person who quits.

[@jaybehkay2438]

Boss: “I don’t even get paid that much? What makes you think you deserve to be paid that much?” Also boss: “you’ve gotta come save the company waaaahhhh”

[@andriusbruzas9211]

Nft post: ‘quality does not matter, hype makes money’ and ‘you need to produce good quality images otherwise they will not make money’. Great logic.

[@michaelmclaughlin261]

Also: "Hey let's do NFT's in the likeness of a Billionaire whom can toss an army of lawyers at us. I'm sure it will be fine!"

[@aaroncousins4750]

I mean hes kind of right. The main thing with nfts are the hype. As long as they look alright the hype will decide the price

[@miguelangelhernandezsolis7849]

@Just wow don't fall for that link doesn't have anything to do with the story is a religious song

[@carldablob324]

@@aaroncousins4750 except NFTs look trash af

[@9liveslie-cat-lie129]

@@miguelangelhernandezsolis7849 fell for that, it's a religious song.

[@MisterH37]

Often, your r/choosingbeggers posts leave me angry and dismayed at the state of the world, but that last story had a delicious coating of r/prorevenge on top and I very much appreciated that.

[@radio-friendlyunitshifter4670]

I’ve been seeing a lot of situations where people are screwed out of PTO and all of a sudden the boss has to scramble to fix everything!! Like seriously what do you think is gonna happen when you dick your employees over? There’s so many job openings out there right now

[@jaxsonbateman]

Like, especially when it's a really, really good employee - the kind that's so good they'd get head hunted by other companies. Why would you risk treating them like shit when their presence in your company is likely generating you a fair amount of profit? If anything, you'd want to invest a little more in them with bonuses and perks and stuff to let them know you appreciate them - not screw them out of their raises, promotions and time off.

[@JadeAnnabelArt]

It's very much a 'I don't need you, but you need me' scenario. The boss can't just hire someone of OP's specific skills and have the issue fixed. But OP can get a job that pays as much if not more within the month.

[@Juju2927]

To be fair, if I was in the place of OP, I would have requested as a last condition to demote that manager from his position. Someone so egotistical doesn't deserve to be in this job.

[@BraveGamerTV]

No, fire him.

[@pitsahat2]

Pointless, since the CEO doesn't seem to be any better. The whole upper management should be replaced.

[@JasonW.]

@@pitsahat2 no, company is rotten to the core. Let it decompose.

[@sleepyearth]

@@pitsahat2 Word. I hope OP gets the job at the client's company thus rendering the OP's ex-company services useless to the client.

[@Fire-Manz]

@@BraveGamerTV I disagree. I want that person to come into work everyday not in a high paying position suffering and they know reason why ... because of me. Though OP said "I want a couple more bodies"

[@KellyDVance]

Last story: and this is why you never have massively important tasks that rely solely on a single employee's knowledge and ability. They may choose to walk out the door and you are screwed.

[@fdm2155]

Absolutely. The fact that OP had raised this exact issue multiple times and been ignored/brushed off explains how they got in this position! It's crazy that they didn't take his offer to fix it given how much it was costing each day.

[@sheeptasticSeb]

There's this "bus principle", basically the company shouldn't stop/fail just because 1 person got hit by a bus and will be in the hospital for the foreseeable future. This company obviously failed 😂

[@CrushaKRool]

It's also a problem with the "hire and fire" mentality that's common in the US that people can just quit or be let go on such a short notice. I am from Europe and the worker contracts in our company have a clause that we need to put in our resignation 3 months prior to it taking effect, so there is ample time to finish current projects and passing on responsibilities. In return, the company also can't terminate us without a 3 months prior notice, which at least gives some financial security and time to find a new job. Of course there is still a case to be made the responsibility should not be on a single person as point of failure, in case of sudden death. But that's a much rarer thing to worry about.

[@KellyDVance]

@@CrushaKRool in the USA we call it "right to work" which was the way many of our politically conservative right-wing states tried to destroy unionization. We are also often guilted into not using our PTO, forced by economics of low pay to work while sick, and a whole host of other issues. The US has a really screwed up view of work/life balance.

[@queensgaelsmenshockey]

Absolutley. When I worked for a junior hockey team I was in charge of gameday operations, the website and worked as the video coach and the webcast for the games. Me and a few others (trainer, locker room guy, equipment manager, stats guy and myself) were being verbally abused by the head coach so we all decided we weren't going to a big hockey showcase weekend in Buffalo and we were all leaving. The general manager all had to meet with us and beg us to come back and he would deal with the coach. And two months later after the players had enough of the verbal abuse, they refused to board a team bus until the coach was fired. The GM was absolutley lost doing all of our jobs for one game and begged us to come back

[@MrJerichoPumpkin]

last story: not anyways, but double the already enormous amount he asked for. That business manager lady is an evil genius.

[@jcsjcs2]

That's easy to understand. He's usually earning $40 per hour. He wants $80 to finish the project. But his company has always charged $160 to the client. The client will not look for an alternative provider that's cheaper than the original provider.

[@noahbohl2127]

@@jcsjcs2 also considering how problematic the company has already been, they kind of deserve to get shafted.

[@yozarahirvi4750]

@@noahbohl2127 if I was buisness manager lady I'd say my goodbye to that awfull company and looked for a new contractor instead of them right after facturing all the money to pay OP

[@maxskogh6289]

A smart manager rather pay a high rate emergency fee, than continually bleed money because of pride.

[@jaxsonbateman]

God damn, the manager of the programming dude was absolutely insane. He kept arguing from the position that he seemingly had the leverage and power, when it was crystal clear that he was in the weak position and needed the OP - not the other way around. The way he kept making demands and telling OP what he needed to do - despite being in this utterly weak bargaining position - was absolutely crazy. He may have had a chance to fix the problem had he actually realised who had the power in that negotion and rolled with it, rather than trying to mid-level-manager his way around the situation. I hope his company realises who really cost them $19k an hour and can his ass.

[@MrJerichoPumpkin]

pffff, that company is dead, no chance they survived without OP

[@zootopiawilson]

@@MrJerichoPumpkin I'd love to know if the company went under. I hope the OP got hired by the other CEO lady. Either way he really tore his old boss a new one.

[@brunobruno-c1d]

its the same vibe as when in other posts we see someone say 'take it or leave it' when they're in no position of power - trying to use a phrase like that while youre giving a bad offer that the person has little reason to accept shows how you have no idea of power positions

[@prinegonbevaris1788]

Last story: The audacity of the CEO to tell OP "You have gambled on your vaccation and lost." And here is the thing: If OP had been granted to take the vaccation in Jannuary instead, the whole situation could have been avoided. What would it have cost company to tell OP, his vaccation had to be cancelled during the holidays but he could make up his vaccation after Jannuary 6th and would be granted 2 additional days off for the inconvinience. OP was already signaling his willingness to move his vaccation, as he asked, but instead of a little gesture to keep him happy, CEO was so greedy to steal his vaccation time from him as well (claiming HR demanded the vaccation to be voided). If that was me, I would have acted the same way, I probably wouldn't even gave any high priced counteroffer at all.

[@id01_01]

I think his high-priced counteroffer is still very reasonable. He should be asking for >$10000 per day, about $1500 per hour. If he's going to save the company $19k per day, it'd be worth it.

[@sleepyearth]

@@mrich1976 10K a month is actually pretty reasonable because i've heard of billing of 500 dollars per hour and minimum of 4 hours per day to fix problems.

[@StoutShako]

@@mrich1976 I feel like the amount of texts and specifics of this story make it extremely likely.

[@crypticcryptid4702]

@@mrich1976 Reminds me of when my Dad was furloughed off of a project, but he was one of the only people who knew how the code worked, aside from a few retirees. So they came crawling back and asked him for help, and he gave them a daily rate of £10k. Of course they declined and pulled someone out of retirement, but my point is that he was probably seeing how much money he could get out of them.

[@AuntLoopy123]

YEah, after having a "Family is everything" epiphany, and then being treated that way, I think I'd my best Bartleby the Scrivener impression, and simply reply, ad nauseum, "No, I'd rather not." No offers or negotiation. Just, "No, I'd rather not." It's infuriating. At last with an offer/negotiation, they ahve a chance.

[@spencerpinkston9972]

Actually that company/manager didn’t screw themselves over by not wanting to pay $10000, it was even pettier on their part. They screwed themselves over by insisting a week of PTO couldn’t rollover to the next year

[@Mattiasthesecond]

they screwed themself so many times, the guy offered to train others, even if they wouldnt be as good/fast atleast there would be more people with the experience, sure it ended up being a petty not allowing vacation scenario, but it could jsut aswell been some other reason he would be unavaible and the dumbest thing I felt went unoticed is the manager asking him to name his price, which was fairly reasonable (excessive, but compared to the cost of not getting the expertise cheap) and just scoff it off

[@AuntLoopy123]

@@Mattiasthesecond I like how he said, "You made your point," and then repeatedly continued to miss the point, by a mile.

[@NoodlyPanda]

I've seen an employee request PTO and get it for Christmas, only for the manager to deny the PTO shortly beforehand because he decided his own vacation time during that time period was more important because he "has family". As if the employee in question didn't also have family.

[@DarkEinherjar]

When will people understand that people need to EAT AND PAY BILLS, and that they can't do that with "alternate payments"?

[@silverflight01]

People that want as much money as possible and don't care about others will never understand that.

[@critterwhisperer5821]

peace who even says “fax” anymore?

[@FedralBI]

But, but, but... exposure is much better than cash!

[@kaimagnus5760]

"I prefer to work with an artist who has a stake in the project." Me: Uuuuh.......Like the artist's fee?

[@aaroncousins4750]

I mean they basically want the artist to produce art, then they sell it back to him. Like all they are is a crappy agent

[@lduker9731]

@Just wow you copy, paste, and like your own comments good job

[@jaxsonbateman]

@@lduker9731 It's actually really annoying that downvotes don't affect the numbers anymore. I don't even know if downvotes even do a damn thing atm. Such stupid spam posting by that commentor should be downvoted into oblivion.

[@lduker9731]

@@jaxsonbateman I went through and reported all “just wow” comments as spam that’s probably the best we thing we can do unfortunately it won’t stop the problem but it might get the channel taken down at least.

[@wumwum42]

Thats even worse than an MLM !!

[@tacobelle6680]

Companies would cut off their nose just to spite their face. They did so when they totally refused OPS very reasonable week-off using his own vacation time. In the end it cost them much more.

[@fryloc359]

A shit ton in fines plus a client.

[@merlinathrawes746]

Not only that but they refused OP's offer to train a back-up person for emergencies. Seems to me like they wound up having an emergenccy.

[@gornur8292]

Considering how OP was essentially getting harassed in the last story shouldn't he have been able to get the police involved for harassment?

[@blaiktrout376]

I think if this went on daily. It looks like it all happened on one day

[@beverlywhitman303]

i dont think he saw it as harassment (yet), it was entertainment

[@AuntLoopy123]

Heeeeeeheeeee! Oh, that would have been comedy platinum. "NO! We're not going to pay you! Come back to work RIGHT NOW and SAVE US, you BASTARD! Hey! Why are the police here? NOOOOO! OP, tell them this is all a mistake! You just gambled on getting your contractually obligated vacation, and you lost! It's nothing to do with the police! HELP! But don't ask for money to help us!"

[@renatoramos8834]

Plus, defamation by telling others that he was holding the project at ransom.

[@creepypastadw5007]

About the 2nd story: the choosingbeggars proposal is sooo funny lol, the OP would be better off just making the nft "without" including the choosingbeggar, and he would get 100% of the profit lol.

[@Suthek]

"Here's the deal. You make 250 pictures for us, and as payment, you get 4 of the pictures you made for us."

[@pharynx007]

NFTs are such a scam, i can't believe all the people falling for it. Check out the latest video from Folding Ideas about them.

[@arduousPopsicle]

Also nfts are a scam, stupid, and bad for the environment

[@critterwhisperer5821]

pharynx007 can’t they be recreated? If it’s a digital pic, all you need to do is look at it and just redraw it lol. There’s no logic behind those. I’m excessively creative (which the people including the little people enjoy) so i could prob figure out how to recreate a bunch of these so called “nfts”. Gimme an idea and I’ll do it or rewrite it to make it even better. Sigh, humanity is just sad. I’m gonna go back to bird and squirrel watching

[@derpyvillager2606]

@@critterwhisperer5821 it has a code that no other has kinda like bitcoin

[@TheBritishYTPer]

0:56 “There’s no guilt trip” You sure about that? “I thought we were mates”

[@TheBritishYTPer]

@good one the only thing I miss were the 27 minutes when you didn’t reply. freakin’ bots

[@lduker9731]

@@TheBritishYTPer report it as spam they are posting the same thing on a lot of other comments

[@nanakwame1122]

The best episode of r/Choosingbeggars so far. I give the company 10/10 for stupidity

[@tazhienunurbusinezz1703]

The reason they don't want to pay the 10K are ego driven ones since someone "lower" on the ladder can't possibly have a higher paycheck than they do. I was management & at conventions & meetups I met a ridiculous number of guys like this. I, personally, would've let him have his week off & paid him what he asked for before the fines, after all, it would have been my fault for not having anyone else in the business that can at least passibly do his job. If he got in a car accident or sick, I'd have been screwed so it was incredibly stupid to have left it like that anyway.

[@tazhienunurbusinezz1703]

@@H-to-O absolutely but their ego won't allow an employee of lower status (in their minds because I didn't think this way) to take home more money than they do, even if it's only for a week or month. It's utterly absurd. They'd rather watch the company burn to the ground than see someone they think is beneath them get theirs for their literal skills. When you understand that these are the types of people that make up a huge portion of middle management, the great resignation makes so much more sense.

[@brunobruno-c1d]

@@tazhienunurbusinezz1703 the sad thing is that people like that somehow end up in good positions, if there's something they didnt deserve, it was that what do they even do anyway? scream at employees and belittle people? considering how their pride is, then i guess yeah also its incredible, they'd rather lose 19k hourly than pay a 10k bill once and give above average wage for a month, if one were to take pride off, this makes no sense, but pride seems to control people like that pain

[@stardf29]

I wonder if the NFT one happened before the problems associated with NFTs became more well-known. Whatever the case, OP dodged a nuclear ballistic missile there.

[@Johncw87]

The biggest problem with NFTs is that they are completely worthless. And that was immediately obvious to me the first time someone explained what they were.

[@silverflight01]

NFT post: If the person offers to pay you with anything *that isn't* cash, don't take it.

[@FEKana]

If they offer you to make an NFT just don't accept it at all. You're really just scamming yourself in the long con since they'll most likely make more money from scamming others than what you're being paid to make those assets.

[@andriusbruzas9211]

While i agree with you fully, this reminds me of a story with CDPR and The Witcher writer. They offered him percentage, but he disagreed and just asked for like $100k and lost so many millions that later tried suing them to get it.

[@greatleader4841]

@@andriusbruzas9211 Thats a bit different. They had a contract with netflix so they had a budget. if he wanted cash then he can get cash. The NFT people have no contract and no way to guarantee the value of the NFT. That's the main difference. I can say this car is worth 500k but its a honda civic. In my mind it could be but when you're selling anything its what the people think it's worth. Not what you do. No contract, no go for a percentage of anything.

[@andriusbruzas9211]

@@greatleader4841 yes different, but it was way way before. They were an unknown polish game developer, no one really thought it would be such a great success. Not in one bit clamming, that nft as a payment option is worth more than absolutely nothing.

[@greatleader4841]

@@andriusbruzas9211 NFT's are like taking a share of a private company for payment. Unless they go public, you cant sell the shares and they're worthless unless someone in the company wants to buy them.

[@FallenRosestorm]

When he said what makes you think you deserve to be paid this much? I don’t even get paid this much?! It’s just like dude his the only one who can fix your problem before you get fine a hole lot, just pay it is probably less then what you’d have to pay if he doesn’t help

[@somerandominternetdweller]

What’s funny is when a company is over reliant on one person for a specific thing, they have soft power in the company, which also very detrimental. Which is also a really bad business decision. When you piss off that person, and they are willing to leave the job. The company holds no leverage, and obviously the company didn’t understand that in the story.

[@fdm2155]

And aside from that... what if he drops dead? what if he inherits a fortune? The employee could be perfectly happy and STILL leave or be unable to work. It's crazy to have such reliance on a single person for YEARS.

[@akl2k7]

@@fdm2155 Yeah, all of this. Never put all your eggs in one basket because you never know what tomorrow will bring. The company would be just as screwed if he died in a crash on the way to work.

[@DewCrewGamingYT]

The boss in the last story sounds like one of those bosses that think blowing up your phone is gonna get them back lmao.

[@Shay_Mendez]

The minute NFT's are mentioned in any capacity, all cards come off the table. NFT's are worth about as much as the Venezuelan dollar.

[@michaelmclaughlin261]

Pay for the NFT in Bitcoin , right?

[@crypticcryptid4702]

@@michaelmclaughlin261 Ethereum I believe.

[@thunderflare59]

"What makes you think you're worth that much?" The entire company being dependent on OP probably did that.

[@vsgfilmgroup]

"The fact that you're losing $19,000 an hour without me. But apparently you don't math good, boss."

[@ZuperPotato]

700k

[@Rj-ij6ko]

Gotta love that Op’s Boss: Fine, name your price **Op names high price** Op’s Boss: **shocked pikachu face**

[@vsgfilmgroup]

And it wasn't even that high compared to what the lack of OP was costing the company!

The first message of the first story should have been an obvious indicator to not trust him.

[@MsNoPixel]

This dude really just offered the artist his own work for his payment… I thought it couldn’t get any worse but I’ve been proven wrong.

[@Nerobyrne]

So, let's do some math here. every hour that he doesn't fix it, it costs them 1000$ per state. Yet somehow, they can't spring for 80$ per hour? Yeah, if you can't swallow your pride long enough to literally save the company ..... do you even care?

[@vsgfilmgroup]

Considering they straight-up slandered the guy to a potential new client, these people have SERIOUS problems.

[@fdm2155]

Yeah, that was just egotistical leadership not wanting OP to 'get over' on them. It's so weird that execs who are sure they deserve unlimited compensation are personally offended at the thought of an underling gettng a big pay day. They'd rather see the company go under!

[@sleepyearth]

Y'all can see pride and egos issues at work here and they think OP deserved less pay than them just because they're higher up in the food chain.

[@StoutShako]

@@sleepyearth Pro-Z voice: THAT peon thinks he deserves MY MONEY?! OHHHH THE OUTRAGE!!! **viciously eats money so that poor people can't touch it**

[@Hybrid301]

Do you think that OP realized the importance of family before work after receiving a magical remote that allowed them to choose what part of their life they lived or skipped?

[@id01_01]

Ah yes, movie recaps

[@lread1607]

I can't understand the manager's logic in the last story. OP's original offer of $80/hr plus $5000 signing on bonus I think adds up to a total of $171,400, which surely is less money then the company will lose if they're making a loss of $1000 per hour per state?

[@LeatherDaddy97]

They didnt want him making more than them. Pride.

[@LeatherDaddy97]

@@H-to-O oh im not disagreeing.

[@ethostheallmighty8325]

The alien nft guy nearly gave me an aneurysm.

[@AuntLoopy123]

I want you to have a stake in the project, so instead of using money as a stake, or your professional reputation as a stake, I'm going to offer you YOUR OWN WORK as your stake. If you don't do good quality on this project, then when I GRACIOUSLY allow you to play with your own artwork, it might not be good enough.

[@sophiejervis169]

That guys manager is straight up harassing him, I'd have blocked his number asap especially after contacting his family

[@songbird-wj4yj]

Right? “We had to make sure you were okay.” Translation: “We had to try and use your family members to intimidate you into helping us” That would’ve been it for me. I’m glad OP got what he wanted, but I probably would’ve just refused to help after that, period.

[@AuntLoopy123]

@@songbird-wj4yj Little did they know that their intimidation tactics were just more fodder for the family laugh fest. "Oh, wow! Now they're calling Aunt Emily!" Aunt Emily: "Hey, check it out! you own't BELIEVE what they said here!"

[@theindigopapillon3495]

I loved this so much!! They were laughing at how much he thought he was worth, yet none of them had the knowledge he had, so essentially, he is worth $750,000

[@SpartanPrimeDSTY117]

The best summary of NFTs I've heard from a friend: you don't buy the expensive car to drive it; you buy the expensive car to say you own it.

[@parmesanchease480]

Yeah, when you get a super expensive car, it will lower in value the SECOND it sees sun and oxygen hits it

[@Echa37-H37]

"nah, don't worry it's decentralized" wow, if it was that easy to make things legal, people should start getting on that shit

[@orbitmouf]

NFTs can be DCMA-ed. The creators can also be sued, smh..

[@foxbuns]

boss: don't get too close to coworkers, we are not friends or a family. boss: don't leave, we're friends, we're a family!!! *make it make sense*

[@rixtunz3625]

Only to bosses that get people to work with manipulation rather than management.

[@JadeAnnabelArt]

As soon as they turned down the 10k I thought they were even more stupid. Especially when they were all 'we already lost 32k today!' Okay, so pay OP a THIRD of that to make sure you don't lose another 32k. Idk, but if the choice was paying 10k to someone to fix the issue, or paying triple that and still having the issue, I know what I'd do.

[@vsgfilmgroup]

And then they said OP get it out of them! No, he didn't. They LOST $32K, a loss that could have been PREVENTED if they'd paid off OP. But they don't understand how opportunity costs work.

[@theswedishdude1]

OP gave him an offer, a very steep offer but still an offer and instead of taking it this dude is trying to guilt and blame OP into coming back. dude OP holds all the cards, you can't force OP to do or agree to anything, take his offer or suffer the consequences of his absence.

[@sadkingbilly]

“Not paying you $10.000 has costs $35.000 today, but come back because we’re a team, fix the issue and train your replacement so we can kick you out” Luckily that bullshit doesn’t fly anymore today!

[@zeneats9984]

“Luckily that bullshit doesn’t fly anymore today” This literally happened a couple weeks ago

[@sadkingbilly]

@@zeneats9984 yep, and OP said “oh heck no!” So it definitely didn’t fly.

[@AIBot929]

🤣🤣🤣 That resignation was hilarious and 100% deserved

[@SwirlyPinwheel]

I'm dying over the resigning OP. I worked in a company with those sort of regulations (not specifically part of maintaining, but a peon in QC). Those sort of fines for being out of compliance will pile until they kill you. OP had that entire company by the balls.

[@Nukie144]

"Be a team player... for the team you quit."

[@Somerandomdude-ev2uh]

So the fun thing is that so many companies use the "market value" argument to not pay people a good wage. But then, if there is only one person who knows how to do something, using that very same argument, they are worth whatever they can get from you. $10,000 is NOTHING

[@voidgalaxy3605]

Thank you rSlash you’re an amazing narrator, always bring a smile when I get to listen.

[@nia789789789]

I love stories where company's get what they deserve for treating their employees like shit. The whole thing was even avoidable. OP was prepared to run a coworker through what needed to be done before leaving for his vacation. Like treat your employees like people, respect them and their time and you wouldn't have a problem. Congrats to OP for having a backbone and walking out of a toxic work environment.

[@arun-subramanian]

"You gambled and you lost".. What a great line to get the one employee who is literally breaking your company into pieces to come back. Also, pretty sure OP isn't the one who lost. The boss was the one who gambled by canceling OPs PTO. He is the one who lost!

[@SilverFoxR]

"In this case 'NFT' stands for 'No F***ing Thanks'." No, no, rSlash... in EVERY case. The fact that this artist even wanted to hear the scammer out is bad news on it's own. Worse yet, I wouldn't be surprised if that cryptard decided to take some of the artist's work and steal it to be minted for NFTs without permission after this. This is what commonly happens with NFTs and why the artist community on the whole abhorrently rejects them. Most people who get these DMs shut it down immediately. NFTs are a scam. NFT "sellers" are trying to rip people off. NFTs do damage to artists, the environment and the majority of people who try to get into them. I'd say "avoid it like the plague", but seeing how people seem to actively not avoid the current plague, perhaps it'd be best to just say "No F***ing Thanks".

[@Pastel_Dreams]

Preach for the people in the back!!! 😇😇😇

[@cafeta]

8:50This should be nuclear Revenge, BRAVO 👏👏👏👏 BRAVO OP

[@ddenisehhoy8369]

How can you say in the same message "what makes you think you're worth that much" and "please save the company"??? Like, clearly he's worth at least as much as you are going to be paying out if he doesnt come back

[@leonxpc1]

Loved the message from the boss to OP. You can see him go through all the phases of grievance. I live for these stories.

[@Nerobyrne]

There is a really easy way to tell if someone trying to get you into NFTs is legit or not. Do they refer to the pictures asosciated with the tokens as NFTs? If yes, they're morons who don't know what they're doing. If they actually know that the tokens on the blockchain are what you're buying and not the actual picture, then they are likely legit. However, that means they're con artists, so watch your back. And your morals.

[@bruhmeme4535]

@good one stop advertising

[@psyphersky]

7:59 My brain was out here imagining a frog screaming at OP throughout the text convo, best thought ever.

[@aarondyess9463]

Have a great day everyone, glad we get to hear some choosing beggars this morning.

[@WinterRose4444]

That last story. Wooooow. Good for OP. His former company was absolutely ridiculous.

[@lacko623]

That final story is beautiful. OP is a true boss.

[@marcjsolis]

The OP of the story you mentioned in the title reminded me of my high school baseball coach’s favorite saying, “Time is the most valuable resource. Once it’s gone you can’t get it back.”

[@ceyceyyumi9535]

The last story was used in an English class I was observing and the students could tell that ops company was full of BS. They did enjoy reading the texts and talking about their views behind the managers thinking/language. Lol best lesson

[@samschellhase8831]

"that is your priority" *NO,* that is not OP's priority, it's your priority that you failed when OP continuously brought up training a replacement. Bullying him, bullying his family, those were the nails in the coffin for you also, recommending people ask for vacation time **closer** to the time of request is what he recommends? dude is crazy, you always recommend as soon as you can to AVOID these situations!

[@AuntLoopy123]

THat's what OP did. First, it was approved, and they they rescinded it, and then said, "Use it or lose it," as if it was HIS fault it didn't get used. And then told him, "Just forget about it next year, alright?" THey basically told him he's too valuable for them to actually value him. Because LOGIC!

[@Othomqcpwr]

The Business Manager is a great person, offering more than OP asked and screwing over the company that tried to screw over OP. I'd be glad to work for a company like that even if the offer was a little less than the salary at previous company. They seem to actually value the work OP is doing.

[@Athenor]

The business manager knew how valuable all this was. And were probably pissed at how the company lied to them.

[@vsgfilmgroup]

The Business Manager wants the job done one way or another and it's not her / his money being spent.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

"Name your price" **names price** "How do you think you're worth that!?" Well, they're clearly the ONLY person who can help you and without that help you're paying even more in fines. Good job, dummy.

[@dracko158]

NFTs doesn't feel like art tbh, a lot of it feels copy pasted, at least to me.

[@GCT98]

They're kinda like stickers

[@mackenziemoore5088]

Let's all take a moment to appreciate the consistent and wonderful uploads. RSlash is the best!

[@Soylent2024]

He gets bank so that's my appreciation

[@vsgfilmgroup]

Truth. And the guy's boss voice is extremely punchable. That's a talent in and of itself.

[@confettiveda2460]

Oh the irony when the boss asked if OP really thought that he was worth that much while begging OP to come back as they lose tens of thousands a day. Yeah, OP sounds pretty worth it to me XD

[@michaelterrell]

Back in the mid '80s, my boss walked into our shop and told me that I was going to lose nine weeks of vacation, because he wasn't going to let me use it, and that he would not talk to HR and Payroll. I looked up at the jerk. I have four due for this year. I started gathering up my tools and said, "Since you're too stupid to do your job, I'll see you in 13 weeks." He turned pale and ran to his office. I was the only one keeping us in business, due to his other bad decisions. I got cash for those nine weeks.

[@lista2308]

Don't all those calls and texts constitute harassment? I just feel like it harassing behavior to repeatedly call family members of former employees and send several (I lost count after five) demands to former employees. It just looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen. But I am petty like that

[@zacharyjackson1829]

I would have just blocked them after the first couple texts

[@jstump8768]

Being petty would be posting my login details plus any other info necessary to 4chan after getting written permission.

[@HikaruKun20]

I really like how the boss is giving demands as if OP was doing this just for some petty revenge, and still thinks they've won over OP's little "tantrum" of a resignation half of the time.

[@jinxgirl5]

The logic of that company in the last story is just breathtaking in its stupidity. Like with the first offer it was 5k to start and 80/h which is like 3.2k for a 40-hour week. Not sure what kind of extras would have to be taken into consideration, like unavoidable overtime/bonuses/etc, but if the company is losing 19k per HOUR then in roughly 9 hours they're looking to pay the exact same as what they'd pay OP for an entire year at the rate he demanded. And then them wanting to laugh at having to pay 10k to shut down the immediate issue when they're gonna be paying that much if they delay another 40-ish minutes? Like do they not understand they are currently hemorrhaging while balking at the cost of the bandage to stop the hemorrhage? Or is that expecting too much intelligence? And then on top of that, they're going to try to pin blame on the guy who finally managed to find the solution and fix the immediate issue, which means that guy is likely going to resign and they're going to be right back to square one of no one having a clue about any of it. It is such poetic justice that they're having to pay double what OP was asking with no choice in the matter. The cherry on top is they screwed themselves out of OP training anyone on how to do what he does, so not only are they in square one they've also dug a massive pit right in the middle of it.

[@AuntLoopy123]

Oh, yeah. They finally find someon who can do it, and then they blame him for not doing it FAST ENOUGH, and choose to discipline him. They are going to lose workers like rats off a sinking ship. You know that all the other employees see that, and say to themselves, "Even if I knew EXACTLY what to do, I wouldn't touch that stuff with a 10-foot pole. Where is my resume? I need to update it, NOW."

[@AuntLoopy123]

I just LOVE how they set themselves up for this glorious failure. He TOLD them to cross-train someone else. He WARNED them that this was a deal-breaker for him. He said what he would do, and he did what he said, and he was not "holding the project for ransom." He was simply NOT WORKING FOR THEM, EVER AGAIN. Honestly, you'd think that, after he told them how much that Christmas week meant to him, they would say, "We'll give you EXTRA vacation time, if you work this week," not "Sorry. It's use it or lose it, and we won't let you use it, so you're going to lose it, and there's nothing we can do about it, so OF COURSE you're going to give in to our demands. There's NO OTHER OPTION FOR YOU." "I'll take Door Number 3!" "But... But... But..." "Door. Number. Three." "NOOOOOOOOOO!" It was glorious. Truly a wonderful story! Thank you for that! And I'll bet his children are watching this, and thinking, "Woooooooow! Daddy really meant it when he said we were our number 1 priority from now on. He really DOES love us! LET'S BUILD A SNOWMAN!"

[@Sanodi21]

I feel like in the last story, the company was doomed anyway with that leadership. OP just sped it up

[@merlinathrawes746]

I would be entertaining to hear a follow-up about the fate of the company.

[@EllpaFox47]

“These are your priorities” When I heard that I immediately went “you don’t get to decide my priorities”

[@dis_light3615]

Man, I've been listening to your video's for like 3 years now ?! I love how your voice is way calmer, before it sounded like you were forcing yourself and now you just sound way more calmer, just cool to notice :)

[@vsgfilmgroup]

9:22 Give the guy credit for restraint. After "Name your price" came up, mine would have been "A one-time payment of $650,000". It would have been a substantial cost savings, after all.

[@neilprice513]

NFT's are so new that there is no law yet that applies directly to them....YET. But mark my words at some point those that use other people's likenesses without permission, use other people's company names without permission and just blatantly steal other peoples artwork WILL face serious legal issues. When the law figures out what they are, what laws apply to them and when someone gets p!ssed off enough to sue someone for stealing their intellectual property (likeness, company name, artwork) for a quick buck.

[@pitsahat2]

I am pretty sure that there are a bunch of laws of copy rights and trade marks. How do you want enforce those against someone in a different coutry though?

[@BigMan274]

The boss thinks that when someone quit they still have to work and fix and save your company for no money

[@Nekulturny]

So I've heard paying artists in exposure, but to offer an artist a piece of their own work as a payment is a new one for me.

[@AuntLoopy123]

That is inception-level choosing beggarliness.

[@scipioafricanus5871]

BFT Neelix? Sure you're not NFT Beelix?

[@KineticVT]

I was extremely confused why the manager asked "Not even a counteroffer?" OP gave an offer, he said no. If he wants to negotiate then HE needs to make a counter-offer. He can't just keep saying "No" and expect OP to continuously lower his offer

[@franciscojaviermendezrinco1902]

Big money and bad bosses: Lesson, DON'T F**KING KILL THE GOLDEN GOOSE! Why these companies don't see over their greed that if you piss off your best employee you'll regret it big time. These companies think they have the power for holding the chain, but the collar is on their neck.

[@merlinathrawes746]

And he wasn't just the "best" employee, he was the ONLY employee who knew how to do this as he wasn't allowed to train a back-up.

[@annasstorybox7906]

I just lost it when the boss was all about "were loosing x amount per hour *whine, cry*" and at the same time OPs demand for an hourly rate wasn still less than ten percent of that 19k fine... They should have given him the 10k and went about their lives...

[@timidhuman]

☻ Jobs' expect us employees to give 2 weeks notice..but where's our 2 weeks when they want to fire us? Lmao, I laughed at the business the one guy resigned from. Always take care of yourself and family..Screw 'loyalty' to companies.

[@justsomegirlyoudontknow2563]

OP’s former boss: Complains for hours OP: I missed the part where that’s my problem.

[@TheBlackWolf17]

I love the choosing beggar videos.....some people are just too dumb 😂😂

[@Dr_Kyutoko]

160$/hr, and assuming they doubled the signing bonus, 10k just for that. OP got a sweet deal and served some justice to that company. After penalties and that massive fine, I bet they paid out a cool million or more. [insert chef kiss here]

[@pipsqueakerdoobie]

It amazes me how people are so bad at managing people. It's literally so simple. You treat them like living human beings. You always place people first over the mission, because you are nothing without your people. Happy employees that have their needs met and stresses addressed will be productive. Legit, it's all you have to do. And managers make it seem so hard, but it's not. Literally just get your head out of your ass and realize that the decisions you make have second and third effects as well.

[@kmac291]

I find it so ironic that the NFT person ended the conversation with "I'm screenshotting this" lol