r/MaliciousCompliance - My Boss Literally Can't Make Me Do ANYTHING!!

[@YurideGroot]

That "safety in numbers" thing is why we need unions. United we bargain; divided we beg.

[@matthewozga]

i remember back in the 80's there was a midsized grocery chain who's union demanded more money than the company could afford. so the company closed every store and let go every worker. when challenged in court the company clearly laid out the financial repercussions of giving into the demands of the union and the judge sided with the company. thousands of union employees were then out of a job. the union scrambled to retract its demands after losing in court, but at this point the company was pretty much already dismantled (leases cancelled, shelving sold or disposed of, etc) and their was no way to go back. greed cost every employee their job. come to think of it, didn't something similar to this happen to hostess??? there was a time and a place for unions, 100 years ago when working conditions were literally a matter of life and death, but what they bravely fought for is now law in america (OSHA).

[@pacman10182]

you don't need unions, you need collective bargaining

[@jamesphillips2285]

@@matthewozga Which kind of begs the question: why did management not tell the union reps that their demands are unreasonable? Last few years companies have been focusing on stock buybacks and executive compensation with their increased margins.

[@tomvanvenrooij1811]

Well without unions bargaining for large groups of people you get unlivable wages like low income jobs in the us currency.

[@britnicox3929]

My favorite thing about the generation coming up is that they are more aware of their rights as employees and have clear ideas of what they can or won’t deal with, even teenagers

[@lovelysakurapetalsyt]

Yep. Employers are gonna be forced to actually be better

[@lharchmage6908]

Actually found many of them only think they know their rights Because once they move states the rights change.

[@lovelysakurapetalsyt]

@@lharchmage6908 Uhhh most of us can't even move states bcs it's too expensive so-

[@lharchmage6908]

@@lovelysakurapetalsyt there are many states that are inexpensive with good jobs and low cost of living . I moved from NYC to Houston TX for 4k U-Haul gas and rented an apartment 2 bedroom. I'm a decent neighborhood. Had a job lined up in 3 days. Earning decent money.

[@lovelysakurapetalsyt]

@@lharchmage6908 You do realize actually MOVING is the issue right? Taking a plane and getting a moving van is SUPER EXPENSIVE

[@gregorythomas333]

Story 1: The moment that jerk yelled at me in the coffee shop I would have torn up the check and stated: "Well YOU have just caused the amount to TRIPLE for the domains." Story 4: Technically (in the US) the company violated the 13th Amendment. Forcing someone to work without being paid is slavery. Mandatory unpaid work meetings are illegal.

[@linuxgurugamer]

I would have had someone recording the interaction, and then send it to the company giving them the reason the cost tripled. Would also be useful in a defense in case they filed a lawsuit

[@Ron-d2s]

You want it immediately? fine I want cash...

[@Joe-lb8qn]

The guy would be in thin ice legally. First its called domain squatting and there are issues with that, but more fundamentally, since he put it in his personal credit card and then expensed it that means the company paid for it, same as anything else he expensed.

[@saybrowt]

​@@Joe-lb8qnHe's getting charged for it 3 years down the line, which means it's a personal expense and he personally owns them. The way the company didn't give any pushback on paying the costs of the domain names up until that point suggests to me that they never reimbursed him for it up to that point.

[@sherylcascadden4988]

For Sally and the weekly meeting: I would clock in before the meeting and say if it's work related, I'm getting paid or I'm going to the Labor Board.

[@HappilyHomicidalHooligan]

Which is exactly what the Law requires... ALL Work related Activities MUST be done On The Clock...

[@bradwolf07]

Exactly...if the meetings are REQUIRED, they are REQUIRED to pay. If Sally wants to play games, let the proper authorities play

[@olingecko]

If you're treated like you're expendable, it shouldn't be a surprise when you act that way, but every single manager in these stories is always *surprised Pikachu face*!

[@bear_trap107]

And yet they come up with idiotic terms like "quiet quitting" Like, maybe if you treated me fairly and paid me more then I would go above and beyond for ya, but you don't so I'm only do what is legally set out for me in my contract.

[@KCCKirby]

Man. 25 cents more an hour is better than my boss telling me " We would like to pay you more, but we don't have the budget for it." and then proceed to hire two new sales people.

[@dlichu]

With a higher base salary ;)

[@lyonn9977]

That cookie toting mascot is life.

[@erenyeagar4686]

the person who came in an anime costume is a legend. i wish we knew what costume it was though. first option that came to my mind was a hokage costume

[@RepellentJeff]

Whenever a company says “We’re like a family here,” run. Don’t think. Run.

[@kaelanirevyruun1676]

Lol if I were to set up a business and wanted to make it a "family" environment, I'd be wording it as "We're a family here, and that means that we help each other out where we can, so nobody gets swamped." :'D If you wanna be family, you gotta take the ups and the downs lol

[@RedwoodTheElf]

A family? So that makes your boss the abusive cranky uncle who does nothing but complain?

[@Juggzy]

The first one, whoever purchases the domain name owns it, doesn’t matter what it’s called or what it’s for. The company and that douche can’t demand he turn it over, especially the way he did it. I’d have ripped the check up in front of him and said “now you don’t get anything because of your attitude. Make sure and tell everyone why you don’t have them and never will.” And the last one, if she made those meetings mandatory, they HAVE to pay you. If they don’t you don’t have to show up and they can’t do anything to you since you aren’t gettin paid for it.

[@andrewmaughan1205]

Last story should have showed up in a bikini, stating that she wants to be a bikini model someday.

[@JodyBruchon]

The best part of the domain name bit is that the company told him to pay personally, so they can't claim cybersquatting either. They literally told him to become the owner of those names.

[@jhawkins4412]

KCC, I LOVE YOUR " I Haven't SAID IT LATELY SCREW YOU RICK"🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅

[@Trivial_Whim]

Honestly it’d only be open for legal issues if he pretends to be the company. I forget the case specifics, but someone bought a domain before a big company could and set up basically a hate site for the complaints about the company and when taken to court the only thing that changed was an added disclaimer that the company didn’t own or run the site. The guy got worn down eventually by the company trying to sue over and over. Even if each got thrown out they still took money and time, you know? Just cause you’ll win every case doesn’t mean you’ll still win in the end.

[@originalmatchgame]

First story… sounds like the general manager has constipation. You could be nice, and buy him a bottle of Milk of Magnesia. Remember,, the initials of Milk of Magnesia spell mom.

[@lilac4297]

Never would do this to a manager I respect but at my my old job I told my manager who was also HR to get off his ass and help take out trash while our janitor was on vacation. That HR was replaced soon after.

[@itweeb4765]

No state in the US requires a two week notice.. it's just courtesy, and might be good if your employer is nice and you're using them as a reference. If not, I wouldn't bother.

[@mrmoose6619]

Two things it's been way too long since I have heard: Screw You Rick and Rob's "Entitled Voice". Otherwise some great MC today. Thanks to all 4 OPs and KCC for this episode.

[@autobotjazz1972]

As far as i Know no state requires an employee to give 2 weeks notice. It is merely a courtesy to do so and often isn't done if there is something the person quitting just can't deal with any more. It also happens fairly often is circumstances as stated in the story .

[@shabath]

You only need to do it of you plan to use them as reference, really.

[@jplum7708]

I'm a big proponent of dressing for the job you want, not the one you have. But I do look rather silly showing up to the office every day wearing an astronaut suit.

[@TheAnonymousShade]

Good morning Rob! Great stories as always! ❤

[@anthonypyritz2927]

That bit about the dress code reminds me of the Dilbert comic book 'Casual Friday has gone too far.'. that said I would have shown up dressed as the Fonz.

[@gregorythomas333]

👍 Aaaaayyy 👍

[@matthewozga]

an employee refusing to do what they are asked to do isn't malicious compliance, its insubordination.

[@Shermmy]

Not always.

[@bradwolf07]

For the record Rob, the OP with the shady AF Office Manager and CEO did post the new girl story. I heard both parts on another video.

[@BY-bj6ic]

well give us a link please

[@RedwoodTheElf]

"Not my CIrcus, not my Monkeys."

[@paulh2981]

For that last one, requiring unpaid work is a crime and is theft, and dealing with it within the company is the wrong approach. The proper approach is to report it to the state labor department. You can also file a lawsuit with an attorney (preferably one that specializes in labor laws) to get compensation and possibly a punitive award. The company needs to know that their manager is stealing from the employees on behalf of the company--and to make sure the higher-ups aren't onboard with theft, they need to know that the authorities are aware of it.

[@jamesphillips2285]

Re: the first story: you are not allowed to infringe on people's trademarks. There is only so far you can push if if you are sitting on a valuable name you obviously don't have a use for.

[@randycarter2001]

The only power an employer has over you is your desire to continue. Once that desire is gone, so is the power. The third story is an example of this. OP's desire went away so anything the boss did or said doesn't matter.

[@HappilyHomicidalHooligan]

In Canada and the USA, if it's Mandatory by the Company, then it MUST BE DONE ON THE CLOCK!!! If the Company tells you to do something unpaid and or refuses to pay you for Mandatory Meetings/tasks, then call the Ministry (Canada)/Department (USA) of Labour and make a Wage Theft Complaint!

[@richardhiskett5422]

When the GM showed up to purchase the domain names and wanted to act like the a-hole he is I would have decided then not to sell. Telling him I'll have a lease contract sent to the CEO for the domains and if the company wants them now because of you they can pay me every year instead of only once.

[@天使霜]

Story 3: walmart managers do this A LOT. And they have no right to

[@HappilyHomicidalHooligan]

OP DID charge the company a lot more than the Domain Names were worth... What else do you call the Finder's Fee? 😄😁😆😅😂🤣

[@129140163]

Story 4: Sally is psychotic. The “no talking bad about customers amongst ourselves” rule would have been a deal breaker for me, never mind the mandatory unpaid meetings. As anybody who has worked a customer-facing job/position knows, >90% of customers are/can be assholes every now and then/from time to time/under the right (wrong?) circumstances, and the people that deal with them need a means of “blowing off the steam” that accumulates when dealing with these customers, and not being allowed to vent to co-workers about it is an unacceptable situation as far as I’m concerned. I can understand bosses not wanting you to do that IN FRONT OF THE CUSTOMERS. That, I get. But not allowing it AT ALL, even away from them , is a MAJOR red flag.

[@noraaa9973]

Ice to hear “Screw you Rick” lol. I had a Rick too and every time you mention him you remind me about that douche bag and so….Screw you Henrietta. Dang that felt goog!

[@autobotjazz1972]

Anyone can buy any available domain name even if it has a name that is trademarked. Companies when the internet just began to take off really had to scramble to lock down their names before others bought them and held for what basically a legal form of ransom. It still happens occasionally but it's a lot less common now as companies and entities are a lot smarter about locking down domain names before anything goes public.

[@vernerulmet2290]

Rob on the last story could you imagine if most of the staff turns in the company for the forced meetings being unpaid and most all of the other shady illegal and unethical stuff being turned into the government wouldn’t that be like 3 pit bulls chewing on their bare bakesides

[@Dead-Dog-Rising]

💚=🦎 ✅

[@19TheFallen]

It's funny you can take the "tator" out of "dictator" and replace it with a "k" and get what they *really* are!

[@erenyeagar4686]

i’m here for the yassification of the karma comment chameleon mascot

[@spacecaptain9188]

Using your personal credit card doesn't mean you own the domain names. He would have had to fill the paperwork out in his own name to give himself ownership. There's enough nonsense in this story to make me doubt any of it is true.

[@gregorygejoff1628]

ok KCC to the first story no it's not ilegal for OP in that story to hold the domain names he could do it forever as far as i'm aware in the USA, to the second story it could get him in trouble intentionally trying to recruit more employees from another employeer as that has a specific law to it. It's called poaching. People have been sued over poaching employees before. now if the other employees went to op and asked about the job that would be different.

[@erichanastacio9695]

Last one: at least no one came in with toy guns and toy explosives. (Wink wink.) LOL 😂😂😂

[@ebonimccain6988]

Part 2 to story 3 is in petty revenge

[@HappilyHomicidalHooligan]

Manager: If you stay, I can give you a $0.25 per hour Raise... Me: I was willing to entertain your counter offer but that was just Insulting...I think I'll skip that pathetic excuse for a Raise and instead go to my new Job on Mon. and get not only a $8.00 per hour Raise over what I'm making here AND work under someone that actually understands how to treat their Employees like decent Human Beings instead of working under a Petty, Tyrant like I am here...see yah...wouldn't want to be yah... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣

[@TJay05]

I don't know Rick but screw him anyways.

[@spacecaptain9188]

An interview for a job is not a guarantee of a job. It's not like he's going to get a good reference from his current employer. I certainly wouldn't hire that little sh_t.

[@5Sig]

Rob tysm for all your episodes I've been watches your videos for 3 years ish now and I love them SOOOO MUCH I hope nothing will stop you from making videos besides death itself For Real thank you so so so much ♥

[@hovis62]

It love your comments! ❤️

[@jpe115]

dress code, i want to be a life guard so red speedos and a towel ok sally???

[@memorysdancer]

That chameleon avatar (?) is adorable! 😍 It's so cute!

[@shabath]

.25 cents. Not 25 cents, 0.25 cents.

[@spacecaptain9188]

Second one is full of it. He was told repeatedly to return to his usual tasks. He should be fired, but knows his employer is in a tough spot. OP is the pompous one here. Also he's kind of an idiot, since, even though no one else is applying for his job, his own refusal to do it means there's no reason to keep paying him anyway.

[@dcordin]

haven't been here in a while. loving the new chameleon graphic.

[@henrytims4745]

Golly that’s a big lizard

[@AnthonyGoodley]

That's what she said.

[@JaelinBezel]

I would’ve gotten a The Flash costume

[@HippieInHeart]

Yeah almost any job can be great or complete shit it always depends on who your boss is. I mean, there's a few jobs which are just always gonna be bad, based on personal preference. Like, I personally would never enjoy working in a hospital because it's just always a very stressful and exhausting environment, but some people like such things. Mandatory meeting at unpaid time? Yeah, nah, I'm gonna just assume that I'm excluded from that until I recieve payment. Not gonna let any employer control how I spend my time without compensation.

[@joshuadavis9216]

Out side of work. You're not ones boss. 😂

[@josephhurst4902]

14:31, "If you stay with Us I can give you large Raise", and you havent done this before BECAUSE? 15:14, Obviously he didnt need more people before, he had you as his Wipping boy, so why get more he needed to Train.

[@Phillguy]

Why do these always sound like they are written by the same person.

[@AnthonyGoodley]

Story time before I hit the hay.

[@adamguymon7096]

16:02 If I were OP I would refer people even if I got paid a bonus or not for doing so just to screw over the old fart of a boss.

[@NazeehYauqoob]

Also love the new format. But try to find photos somewhat relevant, similar or relative to to the story being told.

[@KarmaStoriesPodcast]

Photos have relevance to first link in description.

[@nildofat]

Woot

[@walter6574]

what does op mean?

[@KarmaStoriesPodcast]

Original Poster. Person who wrote the story

[@noraaa9973]

*Nice

[@gwood696969]

Good Morning Rob...another GREAT video. I just cannot get enough of your videos and look forward to every new one. I asked you about your new, updated chameleon a few days ago and you responded, but I didn't get a chance to reply to your response. You said you created the new chameleon(s) using AI and I have to tell you, I am exceedingly impressed. You did an awesome job and I love the three dimensional look to the chameleons and the backgrounds behind them. I almost always have other applications running while listening to your videos, but I have KZbin running in a split-screen setup. From my peripheral vision, I swear it looks like the chameleon is going to come out of the screen and plop down on my computer desk...I love it :). I also wanted to mention the backgrounds you are using while the individual stories are being narrated. I have always been a fan of Impressionistic art (Manet, Degas, Monet, Van Gogh, etc.) and your new(er) backgrounds remind me of Impressionism. As a result, I have the calming, cool, and hazy Impressionistic backgrounds in my peripheral vision when the chameleon is resting up for his spots between videos. Although I enjoyed your videos before, they are even better now and I wanted to take a couple minutes to let you know I (and I am sure other subscribers/listeners) enjoy our videos even more than I did before. Keep up the good work Rob...you have a forever-fan in me (God I hope that doesn't sound cringe or like I'm in stalker mode...not my intention at all).

[@greatone2155]

I just gotta say, that i appreciate that you've made your voice slightly less accented with that snarky tone that is apparently your signature. It works well now and was nearly unbearable before.

[@slipstick985]

I like the posts, but do we really need the sneering inflection? I can only listen to this a few minutes at a time.

[@L0wSkiller]

Is anyone else having an issue seeing KCC videos on their feed? I have the bell selected as "all" and KCC videos just dont show up :(

[@ammarose9742]

God I want to know the cosplay

[@craigs1266]

Good day eh 😊

[@Zinervawyrm]

Sally: "Dress for the job you want!" Someone walks in wearing a $5,000 three-piece silk suit, and leather shoes with distinct red bottoms: "Okay! Listen up bitches! I'm the Captain of this ship now!" Sally hands in her resignation.

[@thecornettmultiverse]

My wife wants the new chameleon avatar as a pet.

[@ltrtg13]

In the last story. It's a pity someone come to work dressed as a stripper. When told come dressed for the job you want, not the job you have. OK 2 dressed as strippers. One dressed ready to strip wallpaper and paint. The other dressed as a night club stripper/exotic dancer.

[@af2001]

Good morning

[@aliencat11]

So happy to hear your voice. Despite the heavy snow we got, and the shoveling coming up, I know its going to be a good day! Take care Rob, and your family, and everyone out there!

[@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233]

Story 3: I don't know what the problem is with this weird meeting. Just clock in. You are at work. If somebody complains on overtime, stop attending the meeting.

[@chaz706]

As someone who IS familiar with the legality of domain names: if OP in story 1 put the Domain names on HIS credit card, then it depends. If he is also the listed OWNER and CONTACT for said domain name, then said domain name is under HIS OWNERSHIP and thus the domain names could be legally redirected.

[@cajun70122]

In the story where OP's friend Kathy was fired "for having a brain", he should have connected the dots for the CEO: sales dropped 6 months ago, when Kathy and I were directed to no longer coordinate with each other, and tanked three months ago when she was fired. And since I (OP) was not given the promised money for a new employee referral, why should you expect me to put in extra effort for anything?

[@n085fs]

Why must all work related activities be done on the clock? Because of liability. If you get injured in any way on the property and you're not on the clock, the company could claim you were trespassing and shouldn't have been there and then the injury is on you. If they called you in, get on the clock as soon as you arrive.

[@Cobb]

The second story, if the waiter/waitress isn't the one doing my service and they're never around when I actually need something, then either their getting a small tip for bad service, or I'm directly giving their tip to the person who actually did the work and took care of me.

[@megendoherty380]

Hi Rob, great to see you Again! 🥰🦎

[@jessielazaro2629]

Perfect timing. Right when I'm clocking out! Thank you 🥸

[@autobotjazz1972]

as for sally dress for the job you want i would have come in dressed as one of the Straw Hat pirates from One Piece.

[@bridgetdebourgh5698]

Good Morning Rob 👋 Happy Hump Day 🐪 Have a great day everyone 👋🤗

[@NazeehYauqoob]

Why the loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong delays from the videos?

[@KarmaStoriesPodcast]

I've got a few other things in the works. Videos should be every other day going forward for a bit

[@migaelz]

story 1: sadly NO you cannot keep those domain names for a lot more money. There's a thing called brand protection. This prevents people from taking sites such as ebay or microsoft. In general, most companies will prefer to just give a small amount for the domain name as it saves them a lot of trouble, but legally, they could simply "take" the names through court. However... Because the manager instructed the employee to put it on HIS name, that'd complicate things. As it essentially means that the company has given the rights to the name. So while he cannot keep the name legally, he'd most likely NEED to be compensated for it.

[@markojotic]

Every honest restaurant I've heard of tips are shares because Busboys and cooks don't get tips directly but do a big share of the work.

[@unclebuck9390]

That was pretty good advice you gave on that last story but the fact is if you go to wage an hour not only will you get paid for every one of those unpaid sections but you also get a whistleblower's fee you will get 10% of everybody else's back pay on top of that and 10% of the fine put money in your pocket while teaching your boss a lesson