R143 R160 R179 Differences

This video shows the differences between the R143, R160, and R179 inside and out. Please post any additional differences you find in the comments below. Thanks for watching, please like and subscribe!
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[@trainluvr]

Very entertaining AND informative. Wish there were more like it. I kind of gave up on this sort of thing after R-46. I used to love knowing the difference between 44s and 46 just by a half second glance. There were so many differences, especially before the rebuilding of each fleet. The original R-46 with its lightweight truck was very different. People don't realize what a tragic setback it was when they were forced to have conventional heavy weight trucks put in. Also, the propulsion system had a mode called wayside regulated, meaning the train was operated manually, but power would be increased automatically to maintain a set speed, even if going uphill. The controler handle, which looked like the top of mom's electric iron, would face 12 o'clock. Turn it to 3 o'clock and you would be in waysinde manual and you would slide it up for power (with stops at swithcing, series, parallel). Swing it to 9 o'clock and you would be in wayside regulated (with stops at 10, 20 ... 70, 80). I'm pretty sure 70 and 80 were cut-out and maybe I reversed 3 and 9 o'clock. If anyone knows better, please chime in. Speaking of chimes the 44 and 46 chimes were a little different too, but those details are for another day.

[@ndudeYT]

That is a pretty interesting tidbit of information, thanks for sharing. That wayside regulated system seems confusing, but it sounds very interesting nonetheless. Know i'm a little late on the response lol !🤣

[@KitKat666]

The differences are so little with the R179 and R160. Like why not install WiFi on the train and plug outs and make big differences

[@SomeRamdomAhole]

Dumbass

[@justrant]

WiFi sure, but outlets?

[@Dezlite]

That's the r211 that will have that

[@qolspony]

The cars already have wifi built in, but it is not for public use.

[@qolspony]

@@justrant Outlets will eventually become wireless. So that phone and other devices will charge automatically.

[@eliot_w]

To be honest, this information really has no practical use(sadly), but I'm glad I know it. Thank you!

[@monica012077]

I would never notice such subtle differences. I usually tell them apart by the sounds they make. We just had the R179's on the A not too long ago and they're easier to tell apart from the others.

[@jaydottt_transitfanner]

You could tell the difference between the R179 and R160s and R143s even without the sounds they make because the R179 is FAT and the headlights are lower to the base of the train And also, the R179 makes a hissing noise like every 2 seconds when it's moving for some reason but the R160 and R143 don't

[@monica012077]

@@jaydottt_transitfanner Now I know what to look for, thanks lol.

[@tricky_724]

When Bombardier Gives You A Lemon, Forget Making Sweet Lemonade, Just Sue Them!

[@artoismta]

That Transit Enthusiast Sueing them is making lemonade

[@qcbeast478]

R160s are better than the R143

[@thebostonbusguy2265]

Ldawg the Beast the other way around

[@neptune.37]

*Hell Yea*

[@youngmoonyohnj1099]

@@qcbeast478 the other way around

[@tornadochasing2883]

R143: Electronic strip maps R160 & R179: FIND

[@JonathanChan212]

Yes.

[@Jayden.nycccccc]

Did you know the r143 and the r142a has the same propulsion

[@TCORV]

@@Jayden.nycccccc and so does the r188

[@Jayden.nycccccc]

Yep

[@CholaHelloKitty]

Did you know can request a stop?

[@noahnorman6877]

Miscellaneous Differences not listed: - The R143s and R160s both have a narrower appearance when viewed from the front. The R179s appear wider. - The R160’s storm doors have a large looped handle to open the doors, the R179 has a small metal lever, which makes it a bit harder to open. - The R179’s LED destination sign takes longer to scroll through the time, destination and next stop than the R143 and R160, Which may have been a “quirk” carried over from the R142 since it was also manufactured by Bombardier. - The R143s and R160s both use the newer softer door chime also heard on the R188 and R211. The R179 uses the older, sharper sounding door chime heard on the R142s and R142As. - The R143s and R160s both have similar dimensions, at 60 feet long, 9 feet wide and 12 feet tall. The R179s dimensions differ, being slightly larger by 60.5 x 9.88 feet but shorter in terms of height at 11 feet. - The R143 uses incandescent light bulbs for headlights, the R160 and R179 both use halogen bulbs instead. Some R160s were retrofitted with LED bulbs for headlights. - The American Flag and MTA symbol on the front are slightly smaller on the R179 than the R160 and R143. - The R143s and R160Bs were both manufactured by Kawasaki, the R160As by Alstom and the R179s by Bombardier - The R143s are numbered 8101 through 8312 - The R160As, not counting separately by number sets, are numbered 8313 through 9802. The R160Bs are numbered 8713 through 9232 and 9803 through 9942. - The R179s are numbered 3010 through 3049 and 3238 through 3327 for 5 car sets, and 3238 through 3327 for 4 car sets.

[@joet5986]

R143 has fleet numbers of 8101 to 8312. R160 has fleet numbers of 8313 to 9974. R179 has fleet numbers of 3010 to 3309(this is not for sure but was stated on R179 contracts with Bombardier)

[@joet5986]

Also R160 can be broken into two types R160 A and R160B. R160A can be further broken into two types: R160A-1 and R160A-2. R160A-1 are 4 car sets and R160A-2 are 5 car sets. R160B are all in 5 car sets. R160A-1 numbers are 8313 to 8652 and 9943 to 9974. R160A-2 numbers are 8653 to 8712 and 9233 to 9802. R160B numbers are 8713 to 9232 and 9803 to 9942.

[@joet5986]

@@ndudeYT no problem

[@blankspace_kxng]

Use wiki sir

[@joet5986]

@@blankspace_kxng ?

[@EpicThe112]

Joe T 8843-9102 have Siemens motors since I rode on 8844 42nd to 34th street July 2015. Also 9103 And up have R142 2,4 & 5 trains traction unit did ride on it Q train January 2nd 2016

[@ConfuzedMind]

Like you said, you only shared visible and audio differences. But for those of you that have never operated this equipment, the differences are much greater than that. Acceleration and braking is quicker in 143 & 179 where 160s are a subtle acceleration/braking. The controls and cab layouts are different. Announcements are different. 143/160s have a T controller where 179 had a hook handle, or what we like to call "welcome to Karpal tunnel syndrome."

[@josephheston9238]

The Alstom R-160 sounds like it's about to play the original _Star Trek_ theme.

[@michaelappell494]

Awesome video! Thanks for posting.

[@physetermacrocephalus9986]

Amazing how you saw the difference between the interior schemes

[@SN06BNF]

When The R179 Starts Moving, It Kinda Sounds Like An Aventra Train

[@hugecatfandan]

This song is called Delightful D by Kevin MacLeod.

[@eliot_w]

true, says so in description

[@Occasus_YT]

on the front of the train on the bottom, there is a little cut off . the R179 has a bigger cut-off than the R143 and R160

[@r160aexpress5]

Good video man

[@mtaftrain5589]

4:10 R179 propulsion/lemon propulsion

[@bogdanrusu7129]

There’s A Diffrence Between R143 R160 And R179 On Chine R179 Has The R142 And R142A Chimes R143 R160 And Also R188 Have A Bit of a Different Chime Tone

[@toddlee-millstein9550]

So, basically nothing?

[@Abstractt]

I don’t like how the r179 has an unfinished design (for example, the red door indicators inside the car looks really sloppy and most of the ad space has random blue text

[@Jaegered]

(i think) note that the R179 had first started running the MTA line in 2017 and is quite new so expect some imperfections

[@Jaegered]

VERNONBLVJSCSONAVUNE On the 7 train and 6 train Oh? that’s a lot later than I thought it started service

[@Vxllain]

The R44 is the fastest subway car in the world btw

[@turtleeater3827]

@@Vxllain I think the Toronto Rocket trains are now fastest cause they have a curved front like a high speed train.

[@Vxllain]

@@turtleeater3827 Wrong, R44’s are still the fastest.

[@xpdev0]

NOTE: The R143 & R160 Alstom propulsions were used way before on the R142A & R142

[@KnucklesWTD]

Easiest way to tell a 179 is how shiny it is lol

[@nojeansv]

this song hits

[@Zeekaan]

Love the editing! What program do you use?

[@Jaegered]

Might just be me, but the roof for the R179 is flatter, i could be wrong

[@Jaegered]

Yeah, the roof for the r143 and r160 is more rounded, the r179’s is more flatter

[@BrendanTheRailfanProductions]

The sound of it is the difference

[@everydishjenkins]

I nowtice the R 179 on the side cab widow the R179s was a bit more narrow. But the R160s & R143s were more sharp!

[@gamingwithjay8937]

I hate the r160 alstom propulsion but i like the r160 siemens propulsion and the r143 propulsion the best

[@galatee_]

R143, (R143 Simens), R160, R160 Simens and R179 Trains

[@belu-gamezgaming8778]

R143 & R160: The safety chains longer. Longer = more height. R179: The safety chain is shorter.

[@taransingh9548]

The R143 propulsion sound exactly the same as the R142A and also the R188

[@EpicThe112]

Correct and for R160A-1 R160A-2 R160B Alstom propulsion is the R142 type found on 2,4 & 5 trains

[@EpicThe112]

@@theplushydogo3295 thanks another thing you can tell about this the propulsion because I've been on 9192 Q train Canal Street to 14th Street IRT Eastside line Alstom R160B and 8844 N train July 2015 Times Square 42nd Street to 34th Street Herald Square Siemens propulsion

[@thoseonetrains]

@@theplushydogo3295 The R142 was actually built by Bombardier. The R160 has those propulsions found on the R142; like someone just said.

[@captainiosbeeswarm7432]

More differences: the r143 and r160 trucks are different from the r179, there are weird shapes on the blind ends of the r179, the cab windows are more curved on the r179, and the r160 is the most common out of them all

[@rxemrailfanning8160]

The R160 and R143 announcements are kind of both the same but the R179 has a pause between the part where the train tells ants destination and what the next stop is

[@michaelferber1917]

Small observation. It appears the headlamp wells on the R143 & R160 are angled oval inset wells around both of each headlamp and taillight pair, meanwhile the R179 has individual circular inset wells around each headlamp & taillight.

[@nyctmtakid8358]

Yeah. The R143 and R160 are bigger than the R179.

[@LeonMaxton]

You forgot on the R179 on the conductor window the corners are curved and on the R160 and R143 the corners are sharp (not too sharp)

[@AYDENProductionsTheGhostTrain]

Another Difference: The lines they use R143: L R160/R179: All BMT/IND Lines

[@boiii3productions945]

All differences missed R143: Strip maps, R160/R179: FIND System R143/R160 have shorter gap, announcer depends on route, R179: Announcements have a longer gap in between, only uses 8th avenue announcer for next stop/this is. R143: only 4 car configuration, R160/R179: both 4 and 5 car configurations R143: all of them have CBTC, R160/R179: none of them have CBTC except for R160A L trains. R143/R160 numbering: 8101-9974 (8312 is last R143, 8313 is first R160), R179 numbering: 3xxx R143/R160: built by Kawasaki Heavy Industries (except for R160As which are built by Alstom), R179 Lemons: Bombardier R143/R160: both are similar as if it was just one train model, R179: different model For further reference I will combine those trains with A-Division equivalents R179 -> R142 (reason: flat slope, same company Bombardier, 2 storm doors, different model than R160s as R142s are different from R142As) R160 -> R142A (reason: fairer than comparing with R143, round slope, 2 storm doors, R160B is made by same company as R142A kawasaki) R143 -> R188 (reason: propulsion, same company Kawasaki, CBTC, LED strip maps)

[@johncorona6219]

When you said that R143s have a warmer interior,while the R160s And R179s have a cooler interior,I thought you were taking about the temperature in them.

[@gaming_edits14]

try to find a difference between r179 and ema 502 propulsion💀

[@emmarigby9839]

the cab window is round on the R179 but on the R160/R143 it is rectangle...

[@Shadow1509-n7m]

3:13 that sounded like R142A and R188 train motor

[@milwaukee1486]

This video needs more views

[@maggiegao2450]

The R142A and the R188 also uses the R143 propulsion, and the R142 also uses the R160A propulsion.

[@speeddemon609]

3:26 R160/R160A/R160B 3:50 R160B

[@chingchinghanji8006]

Here’s another. The r143 sounds like an r142a or r188, the r160 sounds like the r142, and the r179 sounds like a dying cat when it accelerates

[@kk-transport]

Very informative

[@lostprophecygaming917]

MTA needs to be more “original” with their train designs. Why do most of their NTT trains minus the R142/A look the same. I’m glad the R211 will have a brand new and more original look.

[@RRansomSmith]

Makes it easier to replace parts by buying in bulk rather than have 80 thousand different designs.

[@jasminehyman2671]

R179: has bigger storm door windows

[@kinkisharyocoasters]

Also, the door closing strobe is different on the r179 and the front handrails and the motorman's side window and the red door indicator lights and the find lcd screen is bigger

[@ex6963]

The R143 has the same propulsion as the R142A

[@EpicThe112]

Absolutely agree you can try standing at the Fifth Avenue Bryant Park where you can hear R142A 7211-7590 & R188 7811-7898 traction motors

[@ThatBronxRailfanner]

1:27, also, the R179 has nails on the exterior of the door frames, whereas the R160 has nails on the interior.

[@untamed6]

Excellently made 👌

[@rometothefuture5579]

2 doors are better than 1 Lololololololololol

[@Patchy682bestbus]

1 door = work train

[@42luke93]

Rome to the Future I like the feel of pulling one solid door. It has a traditional feel in it and the doubble doors aren’t as cool in my opinion.

[@Patchy682bestbus]

@@42luke93 most likely each car have 3 doors

[@rometothefuture5579]

@@42luke93 Yea, it actually feels more authentic to ride in a train that has one door.

[@rometothefuture5579]

Lol, I've have not been reading my comments!

[@blakefilippi9612]

You didn't mention the door motors

[@nijayoatman6427]

the way the lights are placed and shaped

[@KawasakiR211S]

R179 looks wider than the r160 and r143 despite being the same size

[@borinightmare]

The r179 propulsion sounds like the new WMATA Washington DC trains.

[@Timberland8841]

Nope

[@Smash_Tiger]

On side the window signage on the R179 is different then the R142 & R160A/B

[@ndudeYT]

Interesting observation. I also noticed that the passenger windows are longer on the R179's as well.

[@supermarionathan1426]

R143 and R160: Similar Exterior R160 and R179: Similar Interior R143 and R179: Bombardier MITRAC propulsion (different tune though)

[@BoeingAviatior]

So L trains have a solid done or and the r160 L train is metal

[@jordanbourla1054]

The r143 has incandescent tail lamps. The r160 & r179 have led tail lamps

[@Ryan_4023]

The only one I saw in person was the R160

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

To regular people the only difference is the propulsion sounds 😂😂😂

[@spookyfromhalloweenland3356]

The head light surround on the R160 and the R143 are the same but on the R179 it is different because on the R160 and R143 the headlight surround is more of a rectangle/oval where on the R179 it is just 2 circles instead

[@ninong19]

R143 vs R160A-1 vs R160A-2 vs R160B-1 (which is powered by Alstom) vs R160B-2 (which is powered by Siemens) vs r179

[@everydishjenkins]

I also prefer the R179 Also The A train Is the best 😆

[@amaogusm35]

cool simple tips. epic person

[@Occasus_YT]

Another Difference caught(Side windows on R179 are a little bit bigger

[@dbj1446]

The exterior door frames are different between R143 and R160 to R179

[@javierbarrucz7755]

What a amazing 🤩 difference between the subway 🚇 trains 🚊 😮😮😮❤❤❤❤❤ 4:17

[@Timberland8841]

1:20 the Strom doors look like a tram

[@ajstransportawptv]

The chains are different on the R179 compared to the R143 and R160

[@treedeku6201]

R160 sounds beautiful

[@treedeku6201]

@Linghan- Zhtao504 no

[@markgriffin2087]

@@treedeku6201 you must be brain dead to think that

[@charleschi932]

Happy New Year 2019

[@OweennW123playz_yt87]

bro i already knnow more but i don't know less

[@superluigi5439]

0:04

[@c151b]

R179 is more cleaner than a R160 and R143

[@peterthay7663]

Another difference is that the R179 is more shiny than the R160 and the R143

[@Calamitybesttdxboss]

They sound different that’s an easy one

[@nolongerachannel7226]

R179 Is the loudest train when it stops or leaves

[@wesleysatterfield6309]

To the casual New Yorker (I'm a Lifer), they all look the same. I guess an English model would never do here. They are comfortable to be in.

[@GavinVelez-ty9xc]

My favorite is the r160

[@lopwr1212]

Also, r179s appear to have a flatter roof on the front.

[@authenticmultipurpose-serv8329]

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE YOU LEFT OUT. IT'S THE LED STRIP MAP (THAT SHOWS HOW MANY STOPS LEFT).

[@opheliezieley1488]

Did you know now the A has R179s

[@mell7524]

Did you know the Q haves r160s

[@opheliezieley1488]

Melle ! I did It always had them

[@superistic911]

When I was on 145 street on the downtown side express I saw a R179 A train, and I was staring at it all time when my (C) train left away.

[@markgriffin2087]

@@opheliezieley1488 not anymore The R46 took over let’s goo get those lame Annoying R160 out of the Q

[@loochewhui2920]

Who like R143,R160A/B and R179

[@soggypancake001]

the 179 sound is taken from PTA right? it sounds the exact same

[@trainzandbuzspf621]

opposite

[@soggypancake001]

@@trainzandbuzspf621oh

[@d.g91]

The marker lights on the 143 arent LED like the 160 or 179

[@alfred5674]

Why pop eye doors?

[@MatingMations]

You forgot that some r160s has led on the walls

[@agustingutierrez5577]

NDude make a difference between thr R160 and R160B please

[@_josh_21gamingprogram93]

Some r160s have solid side of the window

[@ThatUnknownProPlayer2024]

R143 has R188 propulsion while R142 has R160A propulsion

[@ifoxy-]

I love it

[@IND3648]

lol no u didnt

[@ifoxy-]

Dude, it was 2 years ago.

[@agentkarma777]

One difference is the door motors.

[@Samwawa_Videos]

R160 Alston and R142 have same propulsion

[@gelaisawilliams6866]

I Like R42

[@a.edwardsnycta5785]

Missed a big one. Trucks. R143 and 160 rides on Kawasaki KW-155 trucks R179 rides on Bombardier B45-P trucks

[@RRansomSmith]

Average Joe doesn't know that

[@NurgamingYT]

R179 is a little bit lower than R143 and R160. Idk if it's real or is it just me, as i never been to NYC but yeah