Rabbit R1's Device Just GOT UPGRADED (Even BETTER!)

[@Kurdish20226]

Think in 2 years time a big chunk of the population will start having advanced A.I companions that will help them in everyday life at this rate.

[@inspectorvoid]

Bring on Net Navis 😂

[@tariq2835]

5 years tops

[@Inckman452]

Imagine...

[@mond000]

Only rich people will have them, and everyone else will work longer hours for less money.

[@igorchak48]

you are talking about AGI, and yes, that is the future. Eventually humans will integrate with Ai and the possibilities are mind blowing 🤯

[@maxavail]

Going forward, I see this tech evolving to where large software providers build repositories of large action models for all major apps on the market and keep them up to date by having AI agents click around each new app release screens and buttons and thus keeping the LAM updated at all times with all the new functionalities these apps add with each new release. Better yet, it may become standard industry practice for each app to also release its correspondent LAM so it can better integrate with large LAM repositories and user devices. Then a consumer device would just either keep the latest LAM locally or call an API to the cloud LAM repository for whatever action they're asking for. I can totally see a future where an app without its own LAM API endpoints released for integration purposes is not even accepted on app stores anymore.

[@So_-.]

Let's see, but I think you're right. I would be interesting to see if the open source android os comunty will make a an similar ai os android that is open source

[@Jack-RichardViri-od9gd]

That would work if everybody was using the same workflow for an app but most workflows are catered to the persons intent

[@maxavail]

@@Jack-RichardViri-od9gd a full LAM should encompass everything you can do with an app, literally every possible workflow.

[@PyroFilmsFX]

i think the dumbest and saddest part to this whole thing is that Apple and Android are just going to make their own just on their own OS... id presume the difference might be on the outlook of how the tasks are actually done in the background ( or perhaps foreground if you just overlay the idea into iOS or android)

[@brianmi40]

His plan for a store to create a market for the "macros" that can be created in Rabbit Portal will be fascinating to browse...

[@blumoogle2901]

The rabbit is explicitly designed to be able to do almost exactly everything that modern anti-virus software and security is explicitly designed to prevent other software from being able to do. Thus, it either has to be a standalone device or integrated directly into the OS to be practical. What it can never do is be a downloadable app that actually does what it is supposed to do. Thus it will never be a downloadable app without being nerfed to death. The Rabbit has, as its central feature, the potential ability to open your banking app/website, pretend to be you, and transfer money to a different account, with minimal interaction or knowledge from you, hopefully on your instruction. But that amount of power is not something which iOS or Android allows you, even as an owner, to grant to other software.

[@kaseycarpenter73]

yep. my guess is it will get bought up and incorporated into an OS/hardware ecosystem

[@Techonsapevole]

lol, great analogy😂

[@gen-amb]

Payment from a credit card to a pre-authorized business for purchases (restaurant, gasoline) is one thing. Pre-authorizing a device or software to arbitrarily control your bank account is just about the worst possible idea, for so many reasons, and I’m pretty sure legislation will become involved for that case. I’m also quite certain a LOT of people will do exactly this, even will subvert guards against it, and then will get seriously burned somehow.

[@JesusIsKingAndTheSonOfGod]

Lol this seems dangerous...

[@caty863]

I was in that camp that maintained the belief that all the functionality of R1 will eventually be bundled into an app and get released by a competitor and thus calling game over to Rabbit 1. Now you made me realize how that is unrealistic.....or at least dangerous.

[@SoCalGuitarist]

Already ordered one. Excited to see what I can do with it. At 200 bucks, it made the trigger easy to pull, if it ends up being a paperweight in a few years, well, I've got a few more expensive paperweights around. What I'm really interested in is hackability and customizability. I won't be using this thing to order stuff for me (I don't have that level of trust in AI just yet) but there's still plenty of routines I'm excited to teach it for my regular daily workflows (and uh, life flows).

[@lilmafya]

Plenty of routines, like what, if you can share? I'm curious

[@kaseycarpenter73]

Same. Really looking to play with LAMs more than anything

[@mcombatti]

**the mentality that destroyed earth 👀

[@SoCalGuitarist]

@@lilmafya yep, I run a lot of different scripts and services constantly throughout the day, and often times will run training on things overnight. Being able to automate some of the tasks like preparing training datasets, starting up services and applications even when I'm not around, and just automating some of the workflows across multiple applications. Kinda hard to describe, but I write a lot of my own code I work with, and have a lot of purpose-built pieces to my pipeline. Stuff like this where I can be out and about and ask it to check the status of a training job, and if it's finished, rack up the next set and kick it off without me having to sit down and remote in and do it myself is pretty cool.

[@CharlestonLiving]

I’m looking into getting this. Do you think this would work for other websites, not just apps? I’m a realtor and would like to have it search for properties and look up additional info like HOA cost and amenities. Would it be able to do that?

[@griffingibson4389]

i love the pokedex form factor. i could see this having a flip open keyboard or flip screen.

[@beinquisitive]

The rabbit seems similar to the ipod. Great product until the cell phone came along which performs the same function as an ipod, plus like a million other things as well. Only in this case the "ipod" is coming out after the cell phone already exists... I wonder how well that is going to work out?🤔

[@Trahloc]

I bought one but I agree. I look at it as a way to get funding so they can proceed to the next iteration. It could be thought of as a competitor to Android and iOS in that way.

[@jameso2290]

Right. I see it as a new way to interface with a computer really. Just like how the invention of the GUI didn't make the CLI totally obsolete, even though GUI's are basically the standard now - CLI is still incredibly useful and has certain advantages over GUi. This new method is like an AI-UI. Or more so VUI (vocal user interface). It's not just a voice controller stapled onto a GUI (which is how voice control works on current phones and computers). The Rabbit is built entirely around the voice control from the ground up. It's genuinely a new way to interface with a computer. And yeah, it'll probably be a bit scuffed. But it's a first proof of concept, and surely will inspire competitors to innovate on the concept.

[@bigglyguy8429]

@@Trahloc Now THAT I could get behind! If they make a standalone AI phone that competes against Android I'd be very interested, unless it's as woke as censored as Google stuff

[@kaseycarpenter73]

Yep. that's atough standard to reinvent. we love our devices. I see this tech getting snapped up and integrated into a hardware/OS ecosystem, then we'll see it become more ubiquitous.

[@Trahloc]

@@bigglyguy8429 well they reamed up with perplexity which, of all the big $ AI systems, is the most collectivist one I've chatted with. It couldn't comprehend that I didn't want to include perplexities values into my personal honor code.

[@CSMRecordsLabel]

No subscription fees right? how rabbit r1 works without perplexicity? Someone knows the answer?

[@kaseycarpenter73]

it doesnt work without it, it uses it, but that's part of their licensing deal, is to bake that cost into the device, so no fees, and the device is powered by perplexity. No clue how long that will last, but that's the word from Rabbit as of today.

[@JOHN.Z999]

In no more than five years, we will be able to create our own video games, our own music, movies, and anything else using our personalized AI agents. This will be fantastic, akin to the Netflix of the future, where you create your own content in the digital world using your AGI for personal use.

[@TheMatrixofMeaning]

Nothing advanced about this outdated technology. I already have these features pre installed on the standard legacy hardware I was gifted by my parents 40 years ago. IMAGINATION

[@CHIEF_420]

​@@TheMatrixofMeaning🐵🧂

[@kokopelli314]

Training rabbit the way its showed reminds me a lot of creating a macro. So the question is: Will the individual actions trained on individual rabbit machines be used to train a larger LAM?

[@Marquis-Sade]

Whats macro?

[@StuartRice]

I'm pretty sure I remember the founder saying that not only can you create LAMs for yourself, but there will be a store where you can sell them to others. This product could be pretty amazing if that is the case.

[@kokopelli314]

@@Marquis-Sade a stored sequence of actions.

[@Marquis-Sade]

@@kokopelli314Oh, ok

[@brianmi40]

They're to be offered in an online Store, which is how they perceive turning a profit since there's not much in it at $199...

[@MokkaMusic]

How will it control the apps on a PC? For example, Ableton Live for music production. What is behind that process? Or for any other program. Will it really be able to learn for how to control any app?

[@muzzy2007]

this is what id like to know, how to utilise it to support and aid in the studio, overtime.

[@brianmi40]

@@muzzy2007 I have used a number of Windows macro programs to script things through the years. I expect it will work the same, learn where to click on the screen as you build the script, and, much like MoonDream did for Open Interpreter, be able to scrape and "understand" any screen content using an optimized model to do that, including OCR to "see" or grab any text. My only concern is their mentioning some hint of limitations to which apps it may support: for them to support an app, they MAY have to have it themselves, dunno. Otherwise it has to ship the screenshots to them for the screen recognition to work with, which isn't unreasonable, but the statement was curious to me. But can't wait to see and of course it's a great plan for them to have a Store where scripts are sold, that should help drive adoption and more programs supported. But we have tons of ways to control Windows apps via automation as Macro tools have done for decades now. I run Bitwig, Reason and Waveform, but I'm not thinking there's necessarily anything in there that really is a fit for the R1. If you just want to script a bunch of steps in a DAW, I would just research Win Macro programs and then you can assign a custom key combo to execute them. Without AI and something like Moondream in play, they will be position dependent, so record and use the same; likely full screen and VSTs in the script would have to play by those rules also for mouse clicks to work correctly. The R1 is more intended to script things you can do via voice on the go, not sitting in front of your computer. Open Interpreter would also be a better fit to automate some DAW stuff, and with what it's AI "could know", might just be able to do quite a bit from a simple voice command, no training... (zero shot). But until they get an app, it's a Python environment to do it all which isn't welcoming to all.

[@hreynisson]

There it is.... The subscription feature

[@Mf_Cooldawg]

The okie doke😂

[@trueborn25]

Not a fan that R1 is marrying to a subscription-based input model. The "no subscription" promise of the Rabbit CEO was one of the strongest promotional tactics, which will now be undercut by this partnership. The reality is that people who use Perplexity for 1 year will become accustomed to that interaction, and once the subscription ends, will likely feel like they need to renew or they'd be losing something. Temp subscription sales tactics are a really shitty way that many companies get people to subscribe that otherwise probably wouldn't have. Can I also just point out that Perplexity is taking us backwards by requiring more precision-based search expectations. Who wants to have to explain what you mean with every search... blah

[@kaseycarpenter73]

you might be conflating two separate things? the $200 credit has nothing to do with the R1 - they have stated that it will still be free, no subscription.

[@ArnaudMEURET]

No. R1 will use Perplexity, period. Outside R1, on a regular web interface, you'll have the benefit of your free year of Perplexity Pro.

[@brianmi40]

I think that totally misses the mark. No one's going to use this to write a novel, or have deep philosophical discussions. The real world uses that will be scripted in Rabbit Portal will be nearly TRIVIAL for even base Perplexity or pretty much even a local AI to leverage. It's not marrying. It's a date, and it ends.

[@jjasper7512]

For me and I don't really see a lot of talk on this, is its image recognition capabilites, in the demo and unless it was all faked, it recognised the contents of that fridge and set a menu, what else can it recognise/be trained to recognise. My initial thoughts were if you were blind and held it up, could you ask it, what it sees? Huge application for image recognition if possible.

[@Trahloc]

I'm part of 3rd batch. Perplexity is ok. When I was talking with it regarding honor it was the worst of the big AIs to understand it though. Claude and Pi were amazing, GPT4 was good too. Perplexity is so intensely trained in collectivism it kept trying to change my personal honor code into a societal code. Regardless of how often I'd explain it was a personal code it wanted me to add its values to it.

[@AndrewQPower]

Needs more Bushido

[@Trahloc]

@@AndrewQPower Some may laugh but these 'alignment' systems could seriously benefit from some ancient philosophy. Not modern, ancient. Stuff that has stood the test of time.

[@AndrewQPower]

@@Trahloc 💯.. though as an evolving society, the bulk of the distracted goes into what's shiny instead of what has value. R1 has both in this instance 😄

[@aurora_occidentalis2248]

For what it's worth, I use Claude more than any other LLM.

[@brianmi40]

I won't be using "honor" as ANY part of what I do scripting to use the R1.

[@martinmacleod-brown4134]

Finally managed to get one on wave 6, don't really need it, but at this price point it is worth buying just to explore the capabilities and see what I can do with it. I think that is the best thing about this device, it is accessible and has people excited to see what it can do.

[@peterdavis9403]

Would this be able to interface to a Libre Office Calc spreadsheet on my desktop computer and make entries for me by voice command?

[@Emphasis213]

Yes. You have to teach it first,I believe its just one time. Once it's taught your voice command can tell it what to do. It's like those manufacturing robots where trainers train the robot arms to build a part, but at a more sophisticated level. Your the trainer and once taught it can work around the app/software until you yank permissions from it.

[@brianmi40]

And you should be able to tell it to import a bunch of numbers from defined sources you script out, like email or text, and even specify where they get entered (column, row...). I've done a lot with Windows Macro tools and can't wait to get my hands on it. The only thing close is Open Interpreter, and it needs a Python environment to do everything.

[@VOLightPortal]

Buttons wear out after a while; ideally they should have embedded touch sensors. Mechanical movement of the 360 camera may be an issue is as well. Ideally there should be no moving parts.

[@JerryGonzalez]

Being so cheap, hopefully by the time these things ware down, Rabbit will have another improved version that you can purchase. If it provides enough value, you’ll be incentivized to purchase the next model, or every other model.

[@brianmi40]

Phones, cameras, keyfobs. All carried around all day, work fine with moving parts. There's already cases available. For my part, I'll 3D print a custom case to hang by lanyard around my neck to have with me on the go, screen towards me for protection.

[@AtharvSaini]

I have bought it and waiting on it but the issue I have is the problem of hacking and user privacy, AI cannot find a difference between me and someone else imitating to be me, my biometrics are also not being checked on for security confirmation, give me a solution ! How do you think it is safe with all my bank account info and my social and online information ?

[@mathurren1]

Yes! This is my concern as well.

[@brianmi40]

First off, you CHOOSE what tools/apps/Webs it will access. Don't want it to have anything to do with banking, don't script it. Secondly, as demo'd it DOES NOT store the password, it is granted access, just like when you log into a new Web site using your Google ID as what will get you in. Those web sites DO NOT get your google credentials to authenticate you, google just KNOWS you want access there, and tells THEM it's ok to log you in.

[@sebek12345]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🚀 *Overview of Rabbit R1 Upgrade and Sales Status* - Rabbit R1 devices are selling fast, with the sixth batch of 50,000 pre-orders available. - Expected delivery for batch six is June to July 2024, with priority based on order date. - Exclusive partnership announcement with perplexity to enhance search capabilities for Rabbit R1 users. 01:24 🤖 *Introduction to Perplexity and Partnership with Rabbit* - Perplexity is an AI-powered search assistant that combines AI for more effective searches. - Rabbit partners with perplexity to provide one year of free perplexity Pro to Rabbit R1 buyers. - Perplexity Pro enhances the Rabbit device's capabilities, making it more powerful. 03:47 🎉 *Announcement of Perplexity and Rabbit Partnership* - Perplexity and Rabbit announce a partnership to power real-time precise answers for Rabbit R1. - The first 100,000 Rabbit R1 purchases will receive one year free of perplexity Pro. - The CEO of perplexity emphasizes the value proposition of combining Rabbit R1 with perplexity Pro. 05:08 👔 *Microsoft CEO's Endorsement of Rabbit R1* - Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella praises Rabbit R1, highlighting its agent-centric operating system. - Discussion on the potential of breakthroughs in natural interfaces and hardware opportunities. - The CEO expresses admiration for Rabbit's vision and interface capabilities. 06:47 🌐 *Microsoft's Potential Reentry into Hardware Market* - Speculation on Microsoft's potential interest in the hardware market, possibly inspired by Rabbit R1. - Comparison with Microsoft's past experience with the Windows Phone and current hardware possibilities. - Exploration of the impact of breakthroughs in natural interfaces on hardware development. 07:30 🤔 *Understanding How Rabbit Works* - Explanation of Rabbit's large language action models (LLAM) and their interaction with the web. - Emphasis on LLAM being superior to traditional language models for interacting with interfaces. - Demonstration of training Rabbit OS to perform specific tasks, such as booking an Airbnb. 10:59 ⚙️ *Benchmarks and Size References* - Benchmark comparison of Rabbit's LLAM with other models like GPT-3.5, FLAN, and T5 XL. - Founder discusses size references, comparing Rabbit R1's size to an iPhone 15 Pro Max. - Presentation of rotational camera functionality and accessibility for left-handed users. 13:30 🚀 *Sneak Peek: Future of AI Assistance and Reduced Latency* - Discussion on the future of AI assistance, achieved 500-millisecond response time, and latency reduction. - Explanation of the streaming model (kernel) designed to minimize latency in voice-to-text interactions. - Comparison of Rabbit's latency with other similar apps like ChatGPT voice-to-voice. 18:00 🚀 *Future of AI Assistance* - Discussing the future of AI assistance and interaction with voice AI. - Exploration of the shift from consuming screens to more natural interactions. - Reflecting on past experiences with dictation engines and the evolution towards voice communication. - Emphasizing the efficiency and naturalness of voice communication in the context of AI. 19:10 🔄 *Comparison with ChatGPT and Future Improvements* - Comparing Rabbid's approach to ChatGPT and the focus on reducing perceived latency. - Acknowledging the cutting-edge nature of their streaming model for faster responses. - Expressing the desire to enhance real-time information search for even faster results. - Highlighting the continuous efforts to push the boundaries and become an industrial standard. 20:02 🗣️ *Voice-to-Voice Interaction* - Exploring thoughts on the voice-to-voice form factor and its significance in communication. - Addressing personal experiences with early versions of dictation engines and the associated challenges. - Emphasizing the efficiency of voice communication, especially among younger generations. - Discussing the shift in user behavior towards voice interaction and its integration into Rabbid's device. Made with HARPA AI

[@1966Punk]

the similarity to a star trek communicator, all it needs next is this ---> How far can it transmit? What will other rabbits be exchanging with others in range? if its not ready yet then what it needs next is BLE (if it hasn't got it already) Bluetooth Long Range Mode: How to Achieve Ranges Over 1Km Bluetooth Low Energy was designed to considerably reduce power consumption and cost while maintaining communication ranges similar to Bluetooth Classic (50-100m max). However, that is no longer the case. With the new Bluetooth long-range mode, you can now achieve ranges of over 1 kilometer using BLE!

[@brianmi40]

as far as any cell phone. It has a SIM slot, and data is dirt cheap already ($15/mo on US Mobile)

[@brandonqarana8277]

I just preordered my R1! Hoping to receive it soon.

[@brandonqarana8277]

I feel like this is a better replacement for the bright screens on a iPhone being used everyday. It’s convenient, informative, and it disregards the need for an iPhone because it pretty much does everything except make calls. Does it play video?

[@lizakaido]

You can make calls, and I think even video calls

[@brandonqarana8277]

@@lizakaido thank you! It would be cool to see a hands on walkthrough of the device, its core software features such as settings, customization, etc. this would be really nice to see.

[@brianmi40]

@@brandonqarana8277 Were supposed to start shipping, so plenty of hands on reviews will start appearing soon.

[@LeeBoom70]

Wow~ It's a little assistant in your pocket that reminds you of your schedule when it's time to go, reads your texts out loud, and even more amazingly, knows which method to use to get the best results based on the situation. And I believe it can even predict the next outcome of an action through its vision perception of the object. It's a really, really amazing device. It's just Jarvis!

[@SwizZLe333]

obviously you haven't watched the video nor do you realize this can intereact and utilize your desktop apps and so Much more...no phone can do this and that form Factor is last Millennium...time to let go of the Old crappy phones *cough Iphone* and embrace the New!

[@brianmi40]

@@SwizZLe333 To say nothing of it using a combo of ALL types of apps: mobile, Web and Desktop. I used to create a lot of Windows macros, so am fully ready to rock with Rabbit Portal. Can't wait.

[@britishknight1534]

I'm wondering how long this hardware device will last before it's replaced by an app on a phone? Especially when the current GPTs an be used to design and improve themselves! 🤔

[@todayisagoodday5027]

The minute this came out it was already outdated lol. At least for first world countries. The giants haven't stepped in yet. We need one device to all things.

[@DerpyNoodIe]

@@chockablock34857 That's true. The only thing I see happening in the future is that newer AI phones will have a dedicated button to bring up their own LAM model in the same way, without having it to open an app. Regardless, I still bought the Rabbit R1 because of it's price at $199 and it's cool design on both hardware and software side.

[@shukrantpatil]

but at the same time I think its not worth the $200 dollars if i can just open an app on my smartphone and get the same work done. @@chockablock34857​

[@brianmi40]

YEARS. First off, ONLY Apple or Google get to DO THAT on their phones. No way in HELL they give any Dev low level access to their OS. Then you STILL need a desktop app to be built. No one's pinching, scrolling and zooming and switching apps with a FINGER to do anything like the scripts this is going to enable. This was nearly 10 years in Dev. I don't see Apple or Google anywhere near competing in less than 2.

[@nuclearthrone2497]

Nice video, good summary of all the info related to Rabbit R1

[@ethnicalbert]

"Rabbit R1, launch nukes" "Nukes ready, please state your destination" "Humanity"

[@PeaceChanel]

Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth...... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤

[@FreeDumb101]

Microsoft is invested in a company called Adept which does similar things as the rabbit. They already know where it's all going.

[@marcthomas9806]

Aren't than adept company looking to achieve agi?

[@fynnjackson2298]

Seeing how viral this is says something about this AI revolution. People want it, and people want it now!

[@brianmi40]

As it should be for the first consumer device dead simple to use that can integrate potentially all mobile apps, all desktop apps, and all Webs for voice control on the go... I expect a huge number sitting it out until in depth hands on experience gets proven will JUMP once their fears are settled and this will explode if there isnt' competition soon. I ordered an iPad immediately after the first demo on Day 1. This is huge like that, and yes, there will be competitors. But at $199, even if it lasts for 2 years before something WAY outperforms it, it's less than the Starbucks budget most people have by month at $8.

[@bluegiant13]

I am considering buying this, since I've always wanted an AI voice companion for research. But I am wondering if Rabbit AI can do research through google. For example, I ask it "What is the hegelian dialectic" and it gives me an extensive answer about the philosophy. Does anyone know if it can do this?

[@JerryGonzalez]

Yes. This should actually come out the box. Try Perplexity. Imagine those results come back via the Rabbit.

[@Glowbox3D]

Curious how this will compare to Meta's Raybans in terms of StS ease of use and multimodality.

[@JerryGonzalez]

I feel the answer is, Meta’s Raybands form factor, the Apple Vision Pro UI and Rabbit OS’s LAM model all combined is the future of the smart phone.

[@brianmi40]

@@JerryGonzalez That's prolly pretty close.

[@akaiYaMa9]

The people saying "this could just be an app" are missing the point. People who want an AI device like the R1 now, dont care about what Microsoft or google or android devices might hypothetical do in the future, when the R1 already exists and can do those things now. Its the difference between "might" and "can" that sets those 2 things apart. I see the R1 like the ipod in 2001, people carried an ipod around because their phones couldnt do what an ipod could at the time. You could either sit around and wait for phones to have ipod features in another 6 years (iphone release date) or just have an ipod lol I personally am not buying an R1 at the moment because i dont need access to AI enough in my daily life to warrent it, but that doesnt mean people shouldn't buy one if the use fits their needs.

[@brianmi40]

I just think there's plenty it can be scripted to do that really has nothing to do with AI per se.

[@FilmFactry]

Is the word COPILOT open? I thought that was Microsofts term for their Bing AI, Windows AI and even their Github?

[@Nick-Quick]

Timestamps: 00:01 Rabbit R1 just got a major upgrade and is selling out fast 01:55 Rabbit R1's Device has been upgraded with the partnership of Perplexity 03:59 First 100,000 Rabbit Arban purchases get one year free of Perplexity Pro. 06:12 Microsoft is considering new hardware opportunities. 07:59 Rabbit R1's New Foundation model understands human intentions on computers. 09:50 Rabbit R1's Device Just Got Upgraded for Fast Training and Learning 11:54 Rabbit R1 is a smaller handheld device with similar features to iPhone 15 Pro Max. 14:09 The rotational camera on Rabbit R1 can be adjusted for privacy and perspective. 16:20 Introducing a new streaming mechanism to improve response time. 18:11 The device now has a streaming model for faster response times. 19:56 The evolution of AI chat bots and the impact of early dictation engines. 22:01 Younger generation prefers dictation icon over typing on the keyboard.

[@JohnSmith-df4vb]

i am curious what sort of impact LAMS are going to have on Google revenue and the app makers, since the app ecosystem is heavily dependent on ads.

[@brianmi40]

Until this becomes WAY huger in unit sales, it's a pimple to them with 330 MILLION mobile phones in the USA and counting. Unless you know 330 people, even if they sell 1 MILLION of these (nowhere close yet), you wouldn't, on average, even KNOW anyone that owned one...

[@happysmilescollection8327]

The overall concept reminds me Skyrim mods implementing AI to chat with NPCs and an actual command to do an action in game from the AI. To me the attraction is the LAM technology that can be trained to act in applications as the user. I hope they implement and focus on the LAM experience as the chat function by itself is not their competitive advantage.

[@brianmi40]

They have to. You can watch an interview with him where he talks about the Store as their profits... not much in a device at $199 to fund backend servers without a subscription.

[@Wubbay828]

How does a device like this function efficiently in a city where people commute, especially when typing is a crucial element? For instance, using it on a bus or train seems impractical. In Japan, people may find such a device less appealing, making it seem like a non-starter.

[@xdanny1992x]

I thought about it after preordering it. I believe "transhumanism" will soon become more and more a thing. Combine 2 already available devices to the rabbit r1. A subvocal recognition patch on the neck and a pair of bluetooth cochlear implants (like Deus Ex game) but they both exists, google it! So, you could basically read what you wanna say in your mind, because it seems lately they discovered that internal monologue has a "voice" a can be detected and analyzed with muscle impulses. You think "out loud" : "Call John, ask him him he prefers a view on the lake or the mountains, and book a room with his final decision. You don't have to show me his answer it's gonna be a surprise for me" - "perfect, i'll book it and only let you know the departure time" (sent to the bluetooth cochlear). Now, we only need a optical nerve sortof mind eye projector as we already have the reverse, cameras.. iRobot 😀

[@brianmi40]

How is it that much different than using a phone in any of those places, other than if you need to ask it how to treat Gonorrhea? Who needs to "type" on a phone?

[@benfelts70]

It’s like a Flipper Zero connected to ChatGPT

[@brianmi40]

HUH? this has no utility to control a TV, or hack into a hotel room. WAY different tool.

[@kcdiazWTV]

Can I connect a bluetooth earphones to it?

[@xdanny1992x]

I guess so as it has bluetooth connectivity

[@kcdiazWTV]

@@xdanny1992x Oh thanks. I didnt think that I saw it on its spec sheet. Good to know.

[@josephwan]

Is there a link to the new interviews in this video?

[@Liberty-scoots]

did anyone get theirs yet? been 2 months and still waiting on mine

[@MelroyvandenBerg]

nono. Rabbit said no "subscription" we are 2 weeks further, and now I need to pay a subscription to get a better result? Sure, 1 year 'free', but not after that anymore.

[@kaseycarpenter73]

Incorrect. From their discord: "r1 is still NO SUBSCRIPTION. Perplexity is built in with r1, queries on all r1 are free with pro experience."

[@brianmi40]

That's simply a failure to understand what LAM needs to operate. You're not going to use this thing to sit and discuss the meaning of the universe, or write a novel. ANY LLM will be PLENTY POWERFUL to use their scripting tool to understand what's on a screen, understand voice commands and scrape words off the screen with its version of a tool like Moondream. relax.

[@brianmi40]

@@kaseycarpenter73 He's concerned that Perplexity Pro is 1 year free and that he sees that NEEDED afterwards... doesn't understand ANY LLM can handle the light load this thing will need to support what it does...

[@percy9228]

why does this sound like a scam the more I see updates on this? it's not the first time a big name company person has lied and run off with the money. it's too cheap and not sure why they couldn't have made a smartphone app. also why not state the hardware they using. like what ai tech are the using for inference. I would be cautious to pre order

[@IiiiIiiIllIl]

Im not sold on the pin thing. I think glasses are still WAY better.

[@jasonjennings8465]

Mine is in the 6th batch. Cant wait to play with this little sucker.

[@lenderzconstable]

I got fourth batch hopefully it has all the updates. Let’s have fun waiting half a year! Hopefully it’s not obsolete by then. Seriously.

[@Hohoohnono]

There’s no update. It’s a scam subscription bait n switch.

[@Walknshark1]

what does this mean?????@@Hohoohnono

[@beinquisitive]

It is already obsolete lol

[@Trahloc]

All the updates are software, so assuming LAMs are real any update is just a patch away.

[@shirtstealer86]

I don’t know, my gut feeling is that these devices will be like the mini disc was in the early 2000s, a cool thing that was actually useful but only for about 3 years because tech moved on from physical discs. But this time it will probably be like 1 year before this way of interacting with AI is obsolete.

[@rookiexreviews]

I think it's kinda meant to be that a step towards a all in one ai assistant

[@adtiamzon3663]

😍 Impressive newly improved hand-held device with #AIAssistant ! #RabbitAI

[@TomCourtney]

Where does the rabbit R1 send user data. They were very specific saying that is secure for user credentials. But the speech to text sounds like it is sent to a server somewhere. Where is this server that does the back end processing? It still sounds dodgy

[@kekmaestro3627]

just take my money and shut up

[@brianmi40]

What "speech" will involve a username or password?

[@iMAANfinity]

what should we learn if we want to build something like this?

[@brianmi40]

Open Interpreter. Only other game in town.

[@zombos22222]

this looks like a good friend for bonzi buddy

[@fradee2830]

How does it work without subscription? Don't it need Wi-Fi or the internet?

[@lizakaido]

Just a regular SIM card

[@brianmi40]

@@lizakaido or WiFi...

[@DmnTech]

Could you use the rabbit r1 too play music Playlists

[@brianmi40]

It's part of the OG demo. your choice of service.

[@perlyngemark2927]

This is the device that will start a new era of AI personal devices, might take a few years before we get the "final" formfactor, if that will be within your phone, a watch, or something completely different we don't know now. But for sure iphone 2025 release will 100% have some AI feature, perhaps Siri will be changed and you can train all your apps in Siri or Apple will remake the iPod formfactor... let's see

[@Basichandle92]

Only first 100,000 is crazy. I personally wouldn’t pay 200 a year for an ad on feature… I wonder if it would work without pro

[@kaseycarpenter73]

Yes it works without the paid version, so ti will still be a zero scrip device

[@Myactivechannel]

My 5 year older is going to have a lot of fun with this

[@caty863]

I have never been able to a find a worthwhile use of macros in Excel. The way I look at this, is just pre-record a sequence of actions so that a robot can replicate the sequence automatically in the future. I therefore has no hope of eventually making this useful for me.

[@brianmi40]

and then you realize, wow, it's not just Excel this works with. It's email messages, text messages, note taking, reminders and a 100 other things, all by VOICE ON THE GO.

[@GCdevine1]

How do they bypass API’s 🤔

[@kaseycarpenter73]

They do so via the LAM - it actually interacts with your apps/sites in the same way you would - it evokes clicks, logins, pwd fills (could get interesting), menu selections, etc...

[@brianmi40]

@@kaseycarpenter73 No p/w fills. Think of like Google does, you tell Google it's OK to authenticate you in.

[@Paul_Marek]

So the original demo was all about reducing clicks/taps in an app environment, now with perplexity it's getting added back in? I recommend watching Marques Brownlee and team's review of this product at CES where they basically lay out why this thing is never going to get mass adoption - title of the video is "The Rabbit R1 Is the Weirdest CES Gadget": kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqrEhpidrLeIjsk

[@brianmi40]

don't get sucked into fake concerns by a marketing agreement between them. They don't NEED Perplexity Pro, Pro was THROWN at them by Perplexity to draw in customers that might stick around afterwards. But what you'll need to do in actuality with this thing will be FULLY within any basic AI today, esp. in the future.

[@aliasgur3342]

Where the app developer relies on ad revenue it's logical to assume that they'll try and block the R1

[@Graeme_Lastname]

Will it work in Australia?

[@brianmi40]

Yes, but you'll have to hold it upside down.

They would have even more orders if they support shipping to more countries. Mine for example :D

[@LumenSeeker]

Do you think you can run photoshop and lightroom with this device?

[@Conker32192]

I doubt ?

[@juandenzer637]

interesting, it seems like using it in the left hand is more comfortable than the right hand.

[@brianmi40]

Lefties FTW!

[@charlesbrightman4237]

QUESTION: With these AI devices, what about copyright laws? If an AI takes and utilizes copyrighted material, for one's gain, without permission, wouldn't that be a violation of copyright laws?

[@expatxile]

Who cares?

[@tracy419]

Counter question: What good is copyright if the whole world isn't on the same page? If your country honors copyright and prevents AI tools from using your stuff to train on, thereby holding back your fellow citizens from it's benefits and other countries don't, aren't you letting the rest of the world benefit from your stuff while artificially holding your own country back? I think in an AI future, things like copyright are going to become obsolete.

[@charlesbrightman4237]

@@expatxile Those who will get violated will care, and possibly sue too.

[@charlesbrightman4237]

@@tracy419 Well, better change the laws and international treaties then. Potentially massive law suits on the horizon.

[@tracy419]

@@charlesbrightman4237 yep. I think a lot of that's going to change, honestly, up to and including how whole economic systems are run. But I don't think it's going to change very fast, and not until a lot of grief and suffering is had by the average person.

[@BStott]

What happens to the smart phone with apps? I see this a just more toxic landfill to pollute.

[@sadgearmy]

I want a Rabbit R1 so bad. Saving up for it.

[@kekmaestro3627]

good luck getting it before 2024 ends, ordered mine a week ago and its only shipping end of july 2024

[@The_Crazy_Monkey75]

I just wish we could also train our smartphones like the Rabbit R1

[@hreynisson]

I would never let my smartphone plan and book a vacation for me. Can you imagine the horror? 😅

[@brianmi40]

@@hreynisson Did you completely miss the part where you have to confirm any purchase? "oh, the horror of purchasing via a mobile device".

[@raoultesla2292]

I bought five of these. Put one in the crib of my brothers newborn, and gave 4 to the Kindergarten down the street. Oh, did I mention I am on the NeuraLink triasl waiting list?

[@martynhaggerty2294]

Couldn't an app on your phone do the same thing?

[@Conker32192]

Pretty much hit I’ve seen people say this is their way to get their name out there to be able to sale the software.

[@brianmi40]

@@Conker32192 Not even close. To build this into the low level OS to take control over and automate EVERY APP written by a MILLION developers using various app creation tools would be an IMMENSE EFFORT, to say nothing of the SECURITY RISKS if a single exploit gets missed and you just gave EVERY HACKER ON THE PLANET ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE PHONE and may have BANKRUPTED YOUR COMPANY or utterly destroyed your market share as everyone TOSSES it to buy a safe phone that same day, assuming there's anything left on their credit card or bank balance to do so. And you still need the desktop app to BUILD the scripts because no one wants to spend 5 minutes scrolling, pinching and zooming on their phone only to make a mistake and have to figure out how to troubleshoot it. And then it STILL doesn't work with desktop apps like this without YET ANOTHER OS TOOL BUILT FOR both WINDOWS and LINUX and APPLE PCs, oh yeah, and a it has to work with any WEB, so they have to tweak the browsers, or force everyone to a standard browser. LOL, done much development have you? 2-4 years MINIMUM and that's IF they would light a FIRE under it as an initiative and hire like crazy before they even start TESTING for security risks. This was 10 YEARS in development and contains NONE OF THOSE RISKS. Not a single password does it store and if you script it to send Paypal $$$ to any email address you want via voice command, and it gets out of your hands to another person who figures out how to get past its "password" then that's ON YOU.

[@MrStumpson]

Batch 2 baby!

[@Steve_Byron]

Better get this out early, because the big boys(Apple/Samsung) are right behind with their version.

[@tracy419]

Hopefully it's just an update to our phones OS.

[@jeffsteyn7174]

​@tracy419 very possible. Once you have the phone the software can be built.

[@brianmi40]

@@tracy419 LOL that would be YEARS OFF to build this into the low level OS, troubleshoot, and then still have to build a desktop app to create the scripts since no one wants to pinch, scroll and zoom for 5 minutes with their finger in order to create and then troubleshoot a script.

[@TheFluffyDuck]

I cancelled my order after. Stopped, had a think, and calmed down.

[@scottlewis2653]

I can see this replacing smartphones. I think this will have its time where people would prefer rabbi r1 ai than phones. Mediatek powers the device

[@antdx316]

PocketOS was good on the Compaq iPaq.

[@blengi]

don't rayban-meta smart glasses already do much of this hands free via Meta AI's conversational assistant?

[@returnoftheluddites]

Is anyone going to ask who is in charge of the data mined from the device? For me it’s the most important thing to think about. If I buy this product I will be sharing secrets, my voice and all my movements so it’s important to know if it’s encrypted or in good hands 🙌

[@brianmi40]

LOL, we need 9 seconds of your voice to deep fake it. You think keeping your voice "off" of this device is what will protect you? Your PHONE already tracks all your movements, along with potentially many apps on it also.

[@xdanny1992x]

Think about a setup like this for someone who wants a quick website without having to do a thing. One screen is a coding app, other is Vision looking at web page result. Press button : - make title bigger, 30% R1 - bigger 30% , done Press button : - uh I thought 30 would be fine... can you adjust it at whatever % so that if fit from X part (points) to this (points at screen, seen by vision) R1 - Sure, it was a 42% increase based on your initial change, not that far, 12% Press button : - Thanks, now add an api for cute Kitten and send it to my server so it displays on all my wofo LCD picture frames on my wall at home, I want 30 new kittens a day. Never black as I'm supersticious. Create some funky ones sometimes as Easter eggs... See how easy it would be?

[@brianmi40]

Already possible with several Webs.

[@martingoode6994]

It needs to evolve into proactive AI not reactive. AI is Getting into the proactive tier of reactive.. but in the future AI needs to have answers to future problems. And proactively respond. AI I believe can repair the ozone and salve global heating.

[@4_ree]

can this learn by showing it videos?

[@TheRealLordSanta]

First off I'll have it respond to "Rabbot". Then whenever I get lost in whatever neck of whatever woods I find myself in, I'll simply say: "Rabbot: Show me the way to go home."

[@stevendebeer3840]

We will al be sitting on small glass pods working...

[@atimeofseason]

I won’t be signing up for “Perplexity” until the “Rabbit” is proven to do what it was promoted being able to do prior to joining up with Perplexity.

[@brianmi40]

Try to understand it ALWAYS WAS and IS going to use Perplexity, standard version, long before this "deal" showed up. This is just a joint marketing deal: users get free Pro for a year, Perplexity gets a bunch of users getting used to their tool and many will just choose to continue and pay afterwards (those for which money doesn't matter much at $20/mo. and just want the "best" so will "stay with what works already for the device"). There's NOTHING in this design that REQUIRES a more advanced LLM like PRO. Otherwise their initial design would have been a FAILURE from the get go. No ones' going to use this to write a novel or debate the meaning of the universe for hours. All the Portal needs is BASIC LLM capabilities to scrape text off a screen OCR and understand it, understand some very basic commands and execute them across some apps. Easy Peasy for ANY hosted LLM these days. Install Perplexity in Chrome and it's right there to use on any Web, even summarizing the page you're on in 1 click. Works FANTASTIC and it'll calm your nerves. Try opening Google Scholar, search for any published research papers and have it summarized for you in plain english in 1 click. Awesome. R1's needs for AI are likely so LOW, you could make it work with a local LLM. Perplexity is PLENTY and Pro is just a marketing deal.

[@jimmybellmon1268]

A Rabbit nibbles an replicates fast LOL 🤔

[@d3filer]

Yeah sure, we gonna give all the authority to one app/device, sounds like a good idea.

[@brianmi40]

Maybe learn to listen. it stores NO PASSWORDS. it does NOTHING to authorize beyond what Google has done for YEARS: know that YOU have chosen to allow Google to authenticate you to some random Web site you wanted to join.

[@d2ccio]

you have the same vocal phrasing as boxxybabe

[@masbueno9724]

Our canal in spanish MiRabbitOSr1

[@JackPelaFox]

I guess the "$200 with no subscriptions required" meant they're not the ones charging you for features but you will still need to pay some company to get the most out of it anyway. Interesting and expected 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@toututu2993]

Waste of time and money for bothering with another silly gimmick. VR is the real deal pal

[@BrianMosleyUK]

I never use Google now... Switched to Perplexity months ago.

[@brianmi40]

Same here. The Chrome add in is FANTASTIC. I do a Google Scholar search for a meta study on anything, and in 1 click get it summarized... The Pro is just a marketing deal, completely unnecessary for R1 which could probably even get by on a moderate local run LLM.

[@wgwg876]

From where you will get this information from say ❤️

[@mcombatti]

So what about "No subscriptions required" for rabbit to fully work? 👀 Is that false advertising? A year free would imply a subscription....

[@brianmi40]

Just for Pro which is no more necessary than paying for GPT-4 over ChatGPT is for other purposes. The Portal and device requires nothing that can't be done in std. Perplexity, which, if you install for free as a Chrome Add on, you'll quickly find is incredibly capable, including summarizing any web page you're on in 1 click.

[@ovalwingnut]

Fast forward to May 2024 and I can't stop laughing.. Never lose that sense of humor. You RoCk!

[@mawungeteye657]

Workflows need to be downloadable

[@brianmi40]

Why? who wants a memory limitation when it has no SD slot? My Android is driving me crazy telling me all the time about the apps it's disabled since I haven't used them in so long, or how much space I could free up. blech... They'll be in their Store, generating revenue for them, and anyone who creates them to sell.

[@MondstaubMusik]

Perplexity is the cherry on top imo. as the main feat i got it for is the learn option. i hope it lives up to it. If not i have at least a fancy Alexa :)

[@davidthayer6590]

Full duplex would be cool

[@liial9869]

I can see they made it look bit like old tecnology...

[@ps3301]

They should still give people the choice to type when the environment is noisy

[@piokop4089]

They said there will be a keyboard , it will pop up after you shake it.

[@nealbrown6345]

Apparently when you shake the r1 a keyboard pops up

[@sukinovo396]

Love the tech but the big issue for me is saying what you want outloud enough for the device and everyone else in proximity to hear as well. That is a big issue for me on privacy. Maybe in a few years another device like this could use a miniaturized version of the tech Arnav Kapur has figured out? His tech is a headworn device that "hears" your silent thinking words. So maybe a system can be built with this tech to verbalized into a device like the rabbit r1, so in effect it would be like "thinking" about your search or action queries only in you own head/brain! Someone should get Rabbit R1 R&D taking to Arnav asap before the big guys do! kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3SomZ2Dermho6M

[@brianmi40]

How is that any different from using a phone in public, unless of course you're asking it about Gonorrhea?

[@leonardsitongia3784]

I wish Lyu would ask his r1 to stop sending me emails soliciting pre-order when I've already pre-ordered.

[@NikoKun]

Kinda sad I didn't place a pre-order.. But I really have to refuse, until I see more hands-on reviews. So I probably won't get one till the end of the year, at this rate..

[@spencerbigum1309]

Follow your gut! That's what this company is doing despite all the nay-sayers.