Rachel has a $200K debt | Suits

[@shams-oon]

"No, Rachel is right. I'm pretty awesome." Harvey's natural self confidence is just 👌

[@OfficialTorin]

^ True

[@gonapakireeti7169]

I like how Mike said "remove emotion from it" and suddenly a personal problem became a contract problem in rachel's head and she tackled it like a lawyer. I think Jessica liked that as well.

[@DarthScott]

Common Mike W

[@Sissi1830]

I also think that Donna helped Rachel. She knows Harvey better than anyone else.

[@Tommyoda]

like a boss dog 💃🏽

[@truthandbeautyco]

The actress who played Jessica did an incredible job. It was never the same without her.

[@demolution325]

Gina Torres

[@ufchighlights1]

Love her.

[@bark-aholic6534]

Jessica played by Gina Torres was completely believable as the fierce lawyer she embodied, a perfect chess player. After her, the other fill-in actresses couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.

[@truthandbeautyco]

@@bark-aholic6534 lol. Brilliant response

[@marioalll]

Jessica Pearson is an outstanding character; she is like a hero for me.

[@suzannadannaTARDIS]

I love the mischievous smirk "I'm exhibit A."

[@nikolotolentino]

she played harvey's ego. thats why jessica didn't even fight it.

[@Nneoh1]

"No, she's right, I am pretty awesome" Loved it 😄

[@kwasibruce]

That conversation between Rachel and Jessica on the deal she made with Louis should be a case study at law school. Great scenes.

[@danielarthur388]

For a firm of top lawyers the amount of verbal agreements they make is rather funny

[@Blahblahblacksheep375]

@@danielarthur388 so the firm and Rachel should save on the $200k and not spend it..! 😂

[@mutantgeralt]

Easy to say when we don't know what actually happens in real life, remember this is an entertainment show so not everything is factually correct, even for just US law.

[@nightmare4122]

we studied contract law and promissory estoppel in business law in undergrad accounting minor classes. And finding a way around things to enforce or make new contracts. And verbal agreements are fine as long as there are witnesses (like Mark zuckerberg and his college roommates for helping zuck in exchange for stock)

[@WayneMercy]

@@nightmare4122 I think you’re forgetting the statute of frauds, which requires certain contracts to be in writing

[@jberkhimer]

Rachel never once went and directly asked Louis to hold up his end of the bargain. She read into what he was saying and applying it to her situation. Had she reminded him, he would've upheld his end.

[@pozytywnawibracja17]

And that was Bad because?

[@darshandev1754]

@@pozytywnawibracja17 she shouldve talked to the other party of her contract dont you think?

[@krolikkrol]

like with donnas salary XD

[@ulizez89]

@@darshandev1754 Yeah, and with a resignation letter ready in case he renegaded on it. And with a previous talk with big bear dad ready to make some legal noise in case of it! Seriously, this people have no spine!

[@darshandev1754]

@@ulizez89Agreed Though I can see why she didn't do it immediately, you know coz the heart attack, I think she should've waited a week and then approached him

[@applecortes4378]

Ahahaha Jessica’s face when she said “I can argue that point” great delivery!!! 😂

[@irrelevant_noob]

9:40

[@jonathancohoon]

"No, I'm pretty awesome" absolutely love how he said that lol.

[@momochanjones7302]

This is why you put EVERYTHING IN WRITING.

[@allnamesaretakenful]

James Cameron made a ton from Titanic because when he gave up his points because they went over budget, they never put it in writing, so he ended up with 650 million dollars.

[@bleverlylondon5079]

@@allnamesaretakenful q

[@bleverlylondon5079]

Discard

[@vijaz5559]

​@@allnamesaretakenfulvery nice, will do this to gullible investor

[@mutantgeralt]

She learnt it the hard way that day. Interesting to note that she had the new deal written up before she went into Jessica's cabin, this is the clue.

[@gavinbock8531]

I like to think that Louis knew the firm wouldn’t cover it and was going to pay for it himself. And Rachel was too angry to just be upfront and ask Louis when he got back.

[@arianebolt1575]

I think Louis was betting that she would never get in.

[@xeyfel7773]

@@arianebolt1575 yeah idk then why would help her her get in ?

[@arianebolt1575]

@@xeyfel7773 Because they eventually became friends and he genuinely wanted to help.

[@xeyfel7773]

@@arianebolt1575 exactly then why would he be betting that she wouldn't get in?

[@aidenharper6013]

​@@xeyfel7773he agreed to do ot before they were friends with no intention of following through because hes a snake. He then became friends with her and did what Louis does which is forget that he sxrewd them over vefore he liked them and then he'll apologize

[@akidz_void2826]

"You are never allowed to have a heart attack..." That one sentence kills me😢

[@TechieBunny]

This is an example of Jessican dropping the ball too. She never put a clause to retain Rachel during or following school. She got her tuition paid and still left the firm.

[@30secondstomarsMBH]

Only coz Meghan got married to a member of the British Royal Family looooool

[@arianebolt1575]

Considering the intervening sequence of events, it's probably moot.

[@seokjin9509]

I mean Jessica left the firm before Rachel did. I don't think she cares if Rachel leaves after she left. What she cared about is Rachel staying in the very end with her which Rachel did.

[@ziadawad9567]

the judge was so calm when she said call an ambulance

[@Kinypshun]

yes...and no bailiffs rushing to him, which we've all seen on court cameras before.

[@gustavopinedaxd]

because he seemed bad but he was awake

[@FirstLast-ur6xt]

Judge probably has that happen in her courtroom once a week😂

[@genxx2724]

I work in court. It happens. Usually re parties or spectators, not the attorneys. Judges do not get excited, especially in the presence of the jury.

[@CharlieZuko]

Harvey wasn’t just Exhibit A. He was backup.

[@foomp]

A great showing of taking a step back and thinking critically about a situation erupting with emotion. Not only can you possibly solve the problem, but you also learn some new truths and become a stronger presence among your peers and superiors.

[@drewblenkley]

Harveys smug face when he realised why he's there

[@obsidi2]

She should have asked Luis to confirm the deal in writing rather than talk hypothetically about someone else. Luis may have just confirmed that is what he promised. Then the "new deal" wouldn't have been necessary.

[@kingsleyani1823]

If he didn't speak with Jessica about it earlier, it might be difficult for him to do that now and incur such a debt for the company for what they already have

[@waynesoxy21]

Worst. Lawyer. Ever lol

[@ulizez89]

@@kingsleyani1823 Nahhhhh, he's a senior partner at a top firm in NYC... I'm pretty sure 65k a year is discretionary budget money. Rachel 100% drop the ball there, sure 65k is a lot of money for most people, but if you are making like 10 millions a year in salary (not to mention the way higher budget he manages inside the firm).... 65k is a drop in the bucket and not something that would stress him out.

[@kingsleyani1823]

@@ulizez89 oh, unless so. If it's discretionary money.

[@spkendrick]

i honestly think if she had just asked louis straight up instead of scenarios he would have been up front and honest

[@DRKLCNS1]

then we wouldn't have drama. and part of it was her trying to avoid a fight with someone she considers a friend who also just had a heart attack

[@houtarooreki5751]

she is gonna be an excellent lawyer and Jessica already knows it

[@cyberkiller83]

i think is more to it. Jessica is a killer, is a shark! there is a reason why she is in the name Pearson. Now... what i think that is in jessica's mind is Racheal's name. Zane! She is not dumb so she already know that.

[@mutantgeralt]

@@cyberkiller83 yes we learnt of that fact later on, nice connection

[@nnaemekaobodozie6901]

It was Dona that give her the info she needed

[@IBRARvsWORLD]

Not If she cant even make her case straight forward!

[@okyggtty]

4:16 at this moment she was no longer talking to the managing partner. She was now talking to Jessica Pearson.

[@FirstLast-ur6xt]

Jessica is the type of person that you can’t picture as anything less than a Boss.

[@confusedindividual]

Jessica (thinking) “Did Louis mention anything about paying for Rachel’s law school? Don’t quite remember. Maybe he did but there’s definitely no paper trail. Hmm… teaching opportunity. Let’s see if this girl’s worth it.”

[@najibwarsame8851]

🤣 Luis is this guy that freaks your day and collapses on the Subway

[@irynakalychak6821]

That’s what taking emotions out of it means.

[@Bella-mx7rl]

"Rachel's right, I'm pretty awesome!" 😂😂

[@sureshnishtala2887]

This is one of the best ever Rachel Scenes....loved it

[@ritarossi1805]

Who direct the Witch hunt against meghan?? Rachel??

[@brunopascal3793]

​@@ritarossi1805 Well, since you asked... It was first Camilla for feeling constantly upstaged by Meghan and then William in order to protect Kate against unfavorable comparison with Meghan!

[@blackkrrsantan4464]

@@brunopascal3793 You a yank? Just a hunch

[@austinfarley4971]

"No She's right, I'm pretty awesome" Sometimes Jessica regrets her decisions.

[@mcmjr405]

“How could he lie to me like that?!” Does she not even know what kind of person Louis Litt is? 🤪🤷‍♂️

[@omeletufomash]

For someone who wants to be a lawyer, she is an idiot

[@Kritacul]

She followed the rule of "Fool me once." Clever girl

[@angelmarauder5647]

$200k is nothing to a law firm.

[@adrienneclarke3953]

They just write off under training/tax anyway. Here a company has to spend a percentage of their payroll on training.

[@dosebuss]

yeah but 200k isnt something they want to waste on an employee either

[@ye3053]

​@Hawk yeah and 200k isn't doo ba dee boo da ba dee doo

[@kiki_ci3880]

Isnt she supposed to be loaded though?? Her parents are rich like?? I got mad when she got what she wanted

[@alfonsorodriguez7713]

@@kiki_ci3880 at some point in the story it's explained that she doesn't want her father's money cause she wants to make it on wall street on her own

[@cyberkiller83]

Donna is the best!!! saving the day all the time!

[@waterbottlegamingtv]

donna wasnt there

[@cyberkiller83]

@@waterbottlegamingtv She was there but anyway... it was a random comment about a great character.

[@Riverrattie87]

We all can see how much Harvey enjoys just being an exhibit and observe an argument that has nothing to do with him nor initiated by him, in Jessica's presence loll

[@cheri31]

So there's a lot of laymen lawyers in the comments so settle some things. 1) Verbal contracts are just as legit as written ones. 2) HOWEVER, if a contract falls under one of Statute of Frauds categories, it needs to be written down (Marriage, Year, Land, Executor, Goods, and Surety). In this scene, you see Lewis asking how long it and Rachel answers three years. That falls under one of the categories (Year), as contracts lasting over a year must be written 3) there are exceptions to these rules. One exception is if a person detrimentally relies on the contract and meets the criteria of promissory estoppel (i.e., reasonably relied on that promise to their own detriment) That's why Rachel responds to Lewis by saying she made major decisions on that promise. And Lewis is right about winning. At the end of the day, Rachel should've known better. A court takes that into account. If she were to go to trial, the cost of litigation would be more than what she could afford.

[@UltraSuperDuperFreak]

It's KZbin lol ... everybody is a grandmaster at everything here ... i think you forgot :P

[@gustavopinedaxd]

his name is louis

[@PsilentThunderer]

Gina is phenomenal in everything she does. I believe she even plays a character in The Legend of Vox Machina as Keeper Yennen

[@chaseflores7527]

This is my fav series of all the time.

[@josh7827]

In an alternate universe: "Hi Louis, remember our deal?" - Rachel "Of course I do Rachel. All a man has is his word. I'm sorry this wasnt handled before you received the bill but I had a stressful case on my plate that resulted in me having that nasty heart attack. With that said, I cross my heart and hope to die or your debts will be paid." - Louis

[@yiddymcgriddy4304]

Mike: "Am I the only one in this firm with a law degree?" (Harvey, Jessica, and Louis shocked because they each thought they were the only ones without one in the first place.)

[@arianebolt1575]

@@yiddymcgriddy4304 Mike Ross, you are under arrest for being an honest lawyer.

[@91nikolai91]

Noone responds in conversation like she did in the beginning of the video... even if you are distracted.

[@Minecraftrok999]

It depends on the person, some people can run conversation on autopilot

[@sophiesaurette2237]

I just can't help loving Jessica. She's so badass.

[@kjain8008]

i like the convo between rachel and jessica at last you can see on her face that she was kinda proud of rachel

[@KuroiRenge]

Consistency with Jessica with Mike and Rachel here. She gives them both herself as an obstacle and smiles with satisfaction when they both overcame her.

[@30secondstomarsMBH]

I feel like if Jessica could fire everyone but Rachel, Louis, Donna, Harvey and Mike and run the firm perfectly fine with them, she would, but if she actually lost any of them the firm would suffer. She loves them lot and would run through brick walls to help them if necessary (she actually did). Also loves when they prove her right.

[@Hulavuta]

Did you guys feel like Louis knew what she was talking about the whole time and was just playing ignorant? The first time I watched it, I thought for sure it was what happened. But he never actually mentions the deal later. It seemed like a weird thing for him to have forgotten.

[@jameslyon2338]

No, Louis likely forgot about it and at the time probably planned to pay for her law school himself. But she was also far too naive and should have got the terms in writing.

[@platinumsnake]

He realized, when he asked "whats the contract"

[@mikelopez5557]

Yeah no he forgot

[@hafeezasif7932]

@@jameslyon2338 Was he really going to pay for it himself he is so stingy with his money he would not even pay donna's salary I think he just tricked her.

[@jameslyon2338]

@@hafeezasif7932 Donna is paid a very high salary lol. Rachel's tuition is manageable by comparison.

[@oliver9541]

When Harvey turns up everything becomes okay.

[@Chris-the-Saxon]

Great defence lawyer! ' He didn't do it!!'

[@jordan3400]

It’s a closing argument

[@weepingangel6805]

Why didn’t Rachel just ask Louis to tell Jessica the truth instead of this deal with Jessica?

[@Belemrys]

Donna always coming in clutch!

[@ppumpkin3282]

From my experience in court, they don't want jurors to take notes.

[@genxx2724]

Notebooks and pencils are provided.

[@arianebolt1575]

It likely varies by jurisdiction.

[@abuanwp]

These are some of the scenes that made me re-watch the whole SUITS 20x. lol!

[@ScoopingCelebrities]

And im a dentist with close to 500k debt, lawyers run miles around me

[@ttewelow1]

You know I almost feel guilty for not watching this show and it's clips like this that make me very interested to sink some time into it

[@rsafonte]

Statute of frauds requires any promise to take on a person's debt to be in writing lol

[@Adityafe5ph]

awkward conversation it is 🤣🤣

[@ankitsharma203]

bro , this whole drama wouldn't exist if she directly asked louis "hey , you remember your promise?"

[@judaynebennett8591]

Jessica was lowkey very proud 😂😂😂

[@Hawksdood27]

Harvey’s smile with the exhibit A comment is gold

[@irashid5406]

That smirk of impressiveness from Harvey when she turned to him 😮

[@choryllis6646]

That growing smirk as Harvey starts to realize

[@abhishekjaiswal-ub2zs]

Its very simple and agree with Louis. Its plain n simple, get everything in writing because words could be forgotten by promiser but not the promisee

[@priscillaapanishile6170]

Louis was going to pay her out of his own pocket . And we all know that Louis is 💰💰🤑!!! She never actually asked him

[@jonnovember2136]

That is a lot of zeros behind the the 2's...

[@SC-RGX7]

Harvey was just wishing for a bucket of popcorn during all of this.

[@girlyghoul]

How the heck was she going to pay for that student loan if she hadn't been accused of disloyalty and then brought back in with a promise to pay her loan for her? If she had been in the firm without any false accusations or drama, then she would just owe back that money by herself, right? (Or am I missing something?)

[@naomilamont3277]

She would have "figured something out". Lol no, she could always go to her dad, who could easily pay that debt. She "wants to make her own way" but I imagine that's easier when you have a safety net.

[@zeldasergou9459]

Yes, you're correct actually. Then she would just take a regular student loan to pay for law school like everyone else out there

[@zeldasergou9459]

@@naomilamont3277 She'd never go to her dad to pay for law school. If the firm hadn't agreed on the new deal, I think she would've taken a student loan but she'd never go to her dad for money.

[@slowedmood7440]

@@zeldasergou9459 "safety net"

[@zritel38]

She would sell her story to Netflix

[@popowere]

The 200k are an old souvenir with the duchess

[@SultanSully97]

If you're a lawyer and can't manage to pay a $200k debt in less than 5 years with a $150k salary then you're priorities aren't in the right place!!!

[@mikecantreed]

What is Louis just said “my bad. I forgot to paper that. I’ll do that now.” Lol

[@bubuerrico9950]

That's why she wanted me here, I'm exhibit A 😂

[@stanleydude3340]

I feel like Luis didn't actually know what she was talking about lol

[@kevinwg02]

why didn't she put that in writing ? that's kinda dumb for a lawyer

[@genxx2724]

“Please verify with Louis as soon as it’s appropriate.”

[@snowman7992]

as ruthless and cutthroat as everyone in this show tends to be, one thing that I really like is how if someone actually wins a conflict with them, they tend to respect and congratulate the person behind From Louis twisting their arms to (spoiler) make named partner, to Mike's various issues with everyone, and to this episode It makes sense in universe since to be a lawyer would mean not taking every win/loss personally, but it also is great writing since it allows for continued internal conflict/drama without the audience disliking one character or another. It also saves the audience from feeling like the characters react on the writers' whims but actually hold true to their character & personality

[@tajniak4335]

And this NEVER gets mentioned again in the series and NEVER gets resolved whether Louis lied or was it just a misunderstanding.

[@EmekaLifeQuotes]

All problems have solutions. Well done, Rachel.

[@andres_sciolli]

She is going to become a lawyer and she forgott the first rule of the proffesion..... always makes things write on papper.

[@clearcut6818]

Verbal contract is just as legit

[@andres_sciolli]

@@clearcut6818 not in a court i bealive..

[@Minecraftrok999]

@@clearcut6818 it is, but you won't have any proof of it and what Louis says is right, if payment period is over 1 year you need it in writing.

[@lurivas7984]

I think you dont know about law

[@cheri31]

Literally, one of the first things I learned in Contracts Law was that verbal contracts are just as legit as written ones.

[@DavidJohnson-dc8lu]

I would have wrote that storyline as, Rachel forgot about her Tuition fee and she thought it was being paid. When Rachel challenges why her fee was never paid, the firm tells her it was not paid because she was fired which in in the clause, but when Rachel goes over her contract she finds that in the case of being wrongfully fired the fee should still be paid, however, the firm challenges that clause and interprets it slightly different, but over time human resources (or whatever it is) agrees to pay, she just needs to chase them up for the payments or reimbursements.

[@infestus5657]

A bad lawyer when they dont writes those terms down.

[@shreyagoestohell]

Just ask robert zane girl 😂

[@yunsha9986]

I want to believe Louis would have honored it if he remembered. He probably planned to pay it out of his own pockets because it was his mistake, that's why he never told Jessica.

[@Kryptarch]

Usually I hate Rachel’s guts but ngl I’m impressed here

[@longebane]

Are you serious? She got herself into this situation

[@nishasolanki1866]

And Donna is the one to provide the solution?

[@adennis200]

Well thats because she decided its essential to go to harvard

[@MayBeAmund]

She went to Colombia

[@keynesianeconomics4113]

@@MayBeAmund And then when she returned from her trip to South America, she attended Columbia.

[@Minecraftrok999]

@@keynesianeconomics4113 😂

[@erichdelossantos4701]

ooh that last scene was so sweet

[@BlakeMartin802]

All she had to do was kindly remind Louis of the arrangement and I'm sure he would've honored it. He loves Rachel as if she were his daughter. Also, if I recall correctly, she got Louis to agree to that by threatening to expose his misdeeds after he fired her, but she probably doesn't want to reveal that little piece to Jessica.

[@muffinicial8738]

idk why they never did a flashback scene of the time jessica decided to pick harvey out of the mail room. what led to it, what was harvey's life like before then, it would've been really interesting

[@PeteNice29]

I also think management didn't really want to have another conversation about Lewis and his shenanigans.

[@terrancetlb]

6:47 shut her down quickly lol

[@Stephenwc]

There are a gazillion lawyer wannabe's who could run circles around that girl.

[@kyledale3280]

Rachel looks like princess Megan

[@nogoogleplus]

200k debt? I bet if she married a prince it might go away 😁

[@sebbygrignano5686]

as long as jessica is responding there is always a way to get what you want out of her

[@TechRBLX]

Fun fact: In the pilot episode, Jessica actually mentions that she paid for Harvey to go to Harvard. Great continuity.

[@Supr93]

Clock upside down of the subway

[@BoeseFlueche]

I think it never came up again. I always wanted Louis to find out what he did to Rachel with that...

[@pisces1017]

Is the jury typically in the court room before counsel arrives?

[@anaruphillips3458]

Jessica is a viper, and she is taking advantage of louis situation to levy against rachel. Jessica is wrong..

[@marr8534]

Weil it happened to me the same, just that the one that promised me to pay my tuition was my dad, and at the age I entered to University I was 17 years old. I ended up paying everything. Sadly I didn’t have any witness. I keep asking to my self if could have done anything in my case :/

[@genxx2724]

Your dad reneged on a gift. It wasn’t a contract or a settlement. Here, Rachel was wrongfully accused, terminated, and could have sued. The raise and tuition agreement were compensation.

[@marr8534]

@@genxx2724 well thanks, just that I would not take the decision to study in that university if it wasn’t because of that promise, but I guess there was nothing to do

[@hothotheat3000]

You’d think a paralegal would know to get that in writing.

[@itsacookie1]

Its funny how they make 200k seem like a lot of money, like Mike wasn't making 250-500k and Rachel wasn't making 150-200k.

[@ThePsyfiWriter]

200k Debt, cheated, feisty, everybody be like "best couple ever!" LOL

[@erhhsdhh2099]

Don’t they get student loans in America? I’m from the UK so I’m not sure how it works in the US.

[@TanvirSingh97]

From what I understand they do but I think the repayments are a lot higher than in the uk that’s why, I don’t think they have the same conditions of repayment as we do. It could also be a lesson on money, if you pay for college yourself then you appreciate the value of it more rather than get it for free or something. Idk. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@dlc8506]

My Girl...Rachel

[@breonc9874]

That was really impressive

[@chinmayk8004]

Take a loan guys!! You're going to be hired at PSL anyways, you'll make truckloads more