Rachel Reeves 'shaking with anger' as she announces cuts to winter fuel payments

[@naeedaafzal3055]

They need to switch off heating at all government buildings

[@SamLowryDZ-015]

What would that solve - also you do realise thanks to the Tory gov a lot of departments are in building not owned by the gov. Look up the Mapley Stepps HMRC farce if you are actually interested in the issues.

[@timothydenyer7749]

half empty anyway.... at best....

[@londonhodnet4079]

That is a plan

[@DarrenJamiesonJamieson]

One way or another Rome has been conquered. Anybody else here only able to appreciate The United States for that?

[@susanjackett9268]

Yeah, all those public sector workers who got a pay rise and WON'T RETURN TO THEIR GOVT OFFICE.

[@juanto6740]

I'm beyond disgusted. My father is 96 yrs old, a Council Tennant, last year I had to go on day after day for him to turn his heating on and he didnt want to. When I visited him at home he often had a woolly hat on, gloves, and up to three cardigans. That was with a fuel allowance, if he dies this winter due to cold weather. I will sue Rachel Reeves personally, I will she Sir Keir Stamer personally,then Labour Government. He's not on pension credit. He doesn't buy Christmas gifts, go on holiday or have a car. Time to cut asylum seekers allowance NOT PENSIONERS.

[@juanto6740]

He also served in WII to ensure ignorant people like you are free to voice your opinion.

[@ryanoneill4691]

We need to look after the people of the future! How’s about you have him move in with you and let a family have that council property or better a home for elderly people, that’s how society works!

[@anthonylulham3473]

He worked from 15 to 65 - a period of 50 years. he's been retired for 30 years. He did not work hard enough in his youth to support himself in his old age. how long do you expect him to live? He's ready for the reaper, pneumonia is called the old mans friend for a reason. My generation wont get a retirement, or it will be means tested and start at 75. we will work till we drop.

[@ryanoneill4691]

@@anthonylulham3473 facts and that’s why I have sympathy for pensioners as they are 70% of the DWPs budget and they still want more! Should’ve thought of all that before they voted for Brexit and the Tories for the last 14 yrs.

[@Trivialexample]

​@@ryanoneill4691also what about the tories who caused this black budget hole and covered it? You are very right, people say my parents deserve independence when they probably need looking after. I live with my elderly disabled mother she deserves independence yes, but she also needs care in her 80s and i never forget who raised me as a child.

[@colinturner4158]

Treating our pensioners in this way is appalling wasting money on people who’ve entered the country illegally disgusting

[@maccagrabme]

Labour voters were all warned yet they ignored the advice, thought they knew better and thought they were better educated than us and now their elderly relatives will be suffering. We told them that Labour are a complete disaster that don't care about poor people, let alone the elderly, this is just the tip of the iceberg, far worse to come unfortunately but only another 4 years and we can vote the bstards out.

[@ryanoneill4691]

Their families should be looking after them! That’s the problem with white nationals they believe everyone owes them something! We don’t we’re paying for our lives.

[@alfching2499]

@@colinturner4158 this country has become one big farce,these people in charge are Ripping us off no ends,and people vote to be taken for granted.

[@mycatspethooman5590]

Shaking with anger? She's just committed to a massive £9 billion pay deal with junior doctors and at least £4 billion for other countries, if they scrap the ridiculously expensive net zero there wouldn't be a problem, they knew all along the public coffers we're in a dreadful state, if the public knew it she knew it

[@martinogold]

Ther fossil fuel industry in the UK gets tax breaks and subsidies for exploration and research and development to the tune of £10 billion. Get rid of those and we'd save a few quid.

[@maureenchallener1529]

Did a pensioner or some one have a dig you can’t do that pensioner there be trouble!!

[@Murfie-qe3pp]

@@martinogoldThe Climate Change Levy on every energy bill subsidies wind and solar.

[@nicolajackman2809]

@@maureenchallener1529 I beg your pardon? what does your comment mean? Make it make sense!

[@malcolmmitchell6529]

​@@maureenchallener1529is this English?

[@stuartswain8785]

Scrap, overseas aid, legal aid for Illegal migrants, fighting deportation, luxury hotels for illegal chancers, the house of Lords and go after the corrupt Tory PPI contracts. Billions of pounds just waiting there. Stopping winter fuel allowance for older people is just pathetic.

[@SF-gn6uw]

YES

[@MrJimiJK]

😂😂😂😂 You still believe there were 'corrupt Tory PPE' contracts do you? Not just a consequence of any Government handing money out in a rush, which the Tories warned about but no one listened? A bit like needless economy wrecking lockdowns you all now whinge about the consequences of, yet never want to mention it.

[@JHorkan]

It's only people that don't need WFP that won't be getting WFP. Millions of posh pensioners don't need it!

[@eightiesmusic1984]

Increase overseas aid. Legal aid is not widely available for asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are not illegal as they have a right to claim it. There are no luxury hotels either. Hope this helps to correct your ignorance.

[@craigs3007]

@@eightiesmusic1984 Hit pensioners with cuts to the winter fuel allowance, but increase overseas aid at the same time? Really?

[@Paratus7]

The pensioners will be shaking from being cold! Labour are a disgrace!

[@trevorglasper2084]

Devils sister

[@JackosJingles]

It should be us that should be angry.

[@FrostekFerenczy]

...at the Tories.

[@Mark-kh1ny]

@@FrostekFerenczyripe for Labour manipulation, just how they like you…..

[@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts]

We should be able to demand it back!! It certainly wasn't spent on public services,was it! All the human misery, even deaths,caused by the wilful and utterly irresponsible dismantling of the public services that took generations to fight for and build up.

[@arceface]

@@Mark-kh1ny Ah. Indoctrinated like the child you are. The Tories must love you. Not as much as they like taking your money, but they still love you. 🤡

[@joemitchell1287]

@@Mark-kh1ny Do you not think it's the people that have been voting for the government that just let in all the immigrants and stole all the money that were 'manipulated'? Especially the ones that are now criticising the people who are left cleaning up the mess.

[@Thaitanium73]

I bet the heating is on in the asylum hotels this winter

[@kenwilkins8237]

Yes it Will be on full blast,with the windows wide open, like every winter.

[@binky1612]

Well said! They come from hot countries after all

[@noeldunford4955]

@@Thaitanium73 parliament will have the heating on full blast no doubt about that

[@brianchandler1365]

As a pensioner, im shaking with anger too! Take money from the most vulnerable to pay for the upkeep of every illegal that comes hear daily via France. Keep them snuggly warm in winter. This country is fu**ed

[@edahudson9460]

You are right.

[@Janet-o7p]

Are they taking the fuel allowance from MPs. Haven't heard about them doing that. Come on Rachel give your own fuel allowance you get on £000's pounds salary for you and your husband.

[@nanban1896]

You need to do some research, it is easy for you too look up the data. What bugs me is that people like you pedal BS promoted by the Russian and Chinese bots. You are a fine example of the 5th column in our country.

[@eddzan1952]

It's all the other benefits that they might scrap but haven't yet got around to .Free prescriptions that's going to be a big one watch this space ?????.

[@kenwilkins8237]

You were all warned,any pensioner that voted for LIEBOUR have only them selves to blame.

[@stanthesteelguitarman8228]

Shaking with anger? Not as much as I am and many others who have to rely on the OLD State Pension and have paid in all their working lives, yet receive less than those who have not paid in and receive Pension Credit plus all the other benefits which go with it. Taking away our Winter Fuel allowance, which Gordon Brown gave us, is an utter disgrace.

[@Melanie-wb6xn]

If you're on the old state pension and you don't have a private pension you should be able to claim PC. It's those on the new state pension that can't claim PC who are going to suffer.

[@stanthesteelguitarman8228]

Melanie, thanks for your input and trying to help. You're absolutely correct that Pension Credit can be claimed by a single person on the old State Pension, but unfortunately married couples , as in my own case, are just slightly above the limit - all worked out by successive governments no doubt!@@Melanie-wb6xn

[@taliskerskye]

I think pensioners will be shaking with anger…let’s not forget that MPs can claim fuel cost on expenses, greedy feckers

[@papapiers1588]

There are many wealthy older people who can well do without Winter Allowance.

[@stevewilliams2691]

I blame the Tories they gotusinto this mess

[@binagarten4667]

@@papapiers1588 There are even more MPs who dont need an allowance for a Kit Kat or second home!

[@fritzhenning1]

I'm a pensioner and this is a sensible and long overdue change.

[@sylviabaxter265]

@@fritzhenning1 you speak for yourself some pensioners will die from flu or hypothermia without the help this money brings.

[@peem1244]

I'm 68, retired care worker, disabled, living alone, no heating or hot water at home, and now Rachel Reeves has decided I don't need the winter fuel allowance...can't find the words.

[@pathfinder303]

If you are in receipt of disability then you are not going to lose your winter allowance only the rich pensioners who have 2 or 3 pensions will lose it and so they should.

[@maccagrabme]

Did you vote Labour?

[@tomsteedman1882]

Add devolved assemblies to that list

[@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts]

@@pathfinder303 I can to say that too. If someone is disabled they should get it on those grounds alone. Once again a few people endlessly repeating misinformation and whipping people up to the wrong thing. A quick Google search usually instantly despells the lies...

[@cadagumedia]

@@pathfinder303 Really? I will not get it, I am on a low pension just over £150 per week as not got full 35 year and can not get any pension credit top up as have a partner who is under pension age, who does work 8 hours a week earning £96 pw, but we have to drive about 260 miles and sleep in the car while she works so we only gain around £60 pw from it. We do not own a house, flat, bungalow etc We live on a boat we do have a bit of savings which is going down slowly but certainly not rich. Do not know what world you live in but it can't be anything like ours.

[@ronaldkinerman2656]

If money is so tight, why is the government giving 11.5 Billion pounds the European climate change fund. Absolute madness..

[@hamiltonmews]

Disgusting. Removing winter fuel payments from pensioners who were prudent enough to work hard and plan for their futures? I guess they'll remove the triple lock next? Lets pray for the pensioners this winter.

[@geejaybee]

Next thing that actually is in the pipeline is means testing the state pension, so that people with half decent private pensions would get a reduced state pension. Vindictive, cruel and counter productive because it would disincentivise people from pension saving.

[@harishkaria5644]

Or may be state pension will be made means tested 😕

[@hamiltonmews]

@@geejaybee Of course. Tax those who have worked hard, and give it to those who have not.

[@mattyska]

The pensioners they are targeting are some of the richest people in the country. Boomers had it good, really good. Educate yourself.

[@triciabaker8992]

She’s an absolute disgrace. Her attitude was shameful..

[@Trevor_Austin]

So will Reeves tell us the full cost of looking after illegal immigrants?

[@simonjess8471]

Will Labour tell us exactly how they plan to deal with the issue?

[@motelr]

ask tories ,,,they let them in,, tories a bunch of a jokers voted in by a bunch of clowns

[@manoo422]

@@simonjess8471 They have no plan at all, they will simply ignore it, they see them as typical Labour voters. Dumb.

[@Dogfacedbloke]

They claim it's £7m per day, but that's purely accommodation in hotels. It's more like £50m a day, probably a lot more. It's lies, lies and more lies.

[@JimRogers-oc2jd]

@@simonjess8471 NO, they just talk around the question when asked,

[@stephenmccue2793]

Pensioners in the UK have had their £500 winter fuel allowance taken away from them. Meanwhile our MPs still have their £3400 MPs heating allowance. MPs always look after themselves first. Its cuts for us and a continued ride ride on the gravy train for our MPs.

[@TerenceHumphreys-cy9ss]

Seven million a day to house and feed imigrants and ther gna stop my winter fuel payment im gutted like the rest off the pensioners off the uk shame on yoo

[@lal2300]

You are well behind its TWICE that amount !

[@nothereandthereanywhere]

It is about time we speak about a sensible approach to the policy, that is for sure. Tory failed approach is costing too much. It took them over 2 years to employ additional staff to actually action the processing! That is shameful.

[@nearlythere9443]

You need to be asking why the Torys wasted £bn's on the Rwanda project which would never work.

[@jstewart4205]

@@nothereandthereanywhere - Additional staff cost money. Anything spent on migrants, means something is cut elsewhere.

[@jstewart4205]

@@nearlythere9443 - The Tories didn't waste the money. By voting against it at every opportunity, then scrapping it, Labour wasted the money. A similar scheme worked for Australia.

[@KevinSmith-ki7yl]

She might be shaking with anger but so are us pensioners, why should we pay, Labour better be very careful.

[@alanmichael5619]

Because your generation kept voting to make the younger generations pay more and more and more. I'll be in my coffin answering emails because I doubt I'll ever get to retire.

[@JamesMargetts-y2n]

Labour don't and never will care, they only care about the illegals, and those opposed to our culture

[@markherzog9484]

Vent your anger at the dodgy Hunt for his actions as Chancellor, Labour are unearthing these malfeasances in public office

[@kathchandler4919]

Are you trying to blame Labour for 14 years of Tory mismanagement & dipping their trotters into OUR money ?

[@711-v3k]

@@markherzog9484 Labour said they are man enough for the job, nobody cares get on with it, gob shites!

[@elizabethmcintyre8529]

She's not as angry as we the people are with thisgoverment

[@johnsabini2330]

Reeves is “shaking” pensioners will be shivering 🤬

[@mpjkea2000]

We don't qualify for pension credit, paid in for over 50 years happy to pay our taxes and insurance. We will Just leave the heating off. The belief that we have lots of money is so untrue.

[@melgrant7404]

Exactly. It's people like you and my father that will be worse off.

[@alanmichael5619]

You should see what it's like for younger generations. I doubt I will *ever* get to retire.

[@cuddersop]

@@alanmichael5619spot on 👌. They don’t have a scooby

[@mpjkea2000]

@@alanmichael5619 divide and rule, turn the young against the old. We are fairly lucky, but I have worked in houses with older people and it's beyond sad to see. Many of the people I have know never even managed to get to retirement age.

[@lizbull4263]

​@@mpjkea2000same here. My friend died at 64, 2 years before she could draw her pension. She worked in the nhs as a nurse all her life.

[@nutty4bolts753]

What a disgrace. You allow anyone into the country. But wont support your own pensioners. Disgusting.disgusting, what a mess you are creating

[@jeffsuter344]

Blame the Conservatives criminals and grifters. Incompetent and lacking compassion.

[@fritzhenning1]

You think giving £200 to pensioners with an income of over £35,000 is warranted when that money could be used for those in need?

[@davidbowie2046]

@@fritzhenning1 Paid into the system. Unlike the dinghy divers!

[@paullegend6798]

@@fritzhenning1 Pension credit stops at £11,383 not £35k. You don't have to be Einstein to realise this will leave some people unable to afford to keep the heating on. The governments own data says 6,000 people a year die from the cold.

[@jakefarrell2726]

@@davidbowie2046Tories basically bankrupt country filling their pockets before getting their lobbying jobs. The extreme waste and recklessness from so called party of economic management is insane.

[@alexdunn8574]

So are millions of PENSIONERS that have to pay taxes on the lowest pensions in Europe

[@unasassa861]

They wish pensioners dead, those of us that worked a lifetime, of no use now

[@zopEnglandzip]

The vulnerable group that overwhelmingly vote conservative, what a coincidence.

[@SlowhandGreg]

If your receiving any sort of supplementary benifit you'll get the winter fuel allowance I'm a pensioner I will not but my mother in law will, its not means tested we get a carers allowance hence we will get the fuel allowance

[@barracuda008l4]

No, it is the socialist dictatorship created by Reform voters that priorities open borders and islamification

[@robertohicks9467]

I don’t believe pension credit is awarded to pensioners based on income, it’s awarded to those who have the right name, and that is decided if you are accepted from your school days. 🤬

[@joemitchell69]

You're right. I guess that why Boris famously said, "let the bodies pile up" when specifically talking about 'useless' pensioners during COVID. Disgusting. Thank God we have decent normal people in charge now.

[@eddzan1952]

Will she give up her 3400 pound fuel allowance.

[@sandrafrancis3631]

What will they do when the first pensioners die this winter because they couldn't afford to turn the heating on!?😢?

[@seaglass22]

Neither Tories nor Labour care whether the elderly or disabled pass on.

[@dennwren]

The media will not cover it - puppets

[@annewalden3795]

​@@seaglass22 Then they should be made to care.

[@lizbull4263]

@@sandrafrancis3631 judging by their behaviour they want it.

[@sandrafrancis3631]

@lizbull4263 maybe they think most pensions are rich, and they vote Tory anyway!? The pooer ones the ones on pension credit they will get the WFA, they think the poorer ones will vote labour. There are pensioners who don't qualify for P.C. they get the state pension, but don't have a private pension, or much money, they are the ones who will suffer. Labour probably think there aren't so many of them, so they don't care. They didn't tell us they were going to do this before the election, bet they were planning to do this to save money. If they had told us I might not have voted for them, probably won't vote for them next time! I'll vote lib dems or Green.

[@MAHMED-s6h]

Pensioners need warmth in old age. The young illegals will be living.in.a warm.hotel room. Totally unfair.

[@susanwestern6434]

The heating in the hotels should be turned off.

[@thecheesefactor]

If pensioners are on benefits they still get the winter fuel payment.

[@richardc513]

People claiming asylum are not illegal until their case has been heard and rejected. The Tories deliberately stopped processing people, creating a massive backlog, and thus filling the hotels.

[@stuartregan1627]

@@thecheesefactor So why did they bother saving for retirement ?

[@thecheesefactor]

@@stuartregan1627 To meet all the other costs. The winter fuel payment maxes out at £600 for those still eligible, but that number is much smaller now. Many brits cannot save at all because their salaries have been cut so low. Austerity was the falling tide that lowered all boats.

[@northnsouth6813]

Agreed shame on them! So pensioners that have worked hard and saved enough to be comfortable are victimised in this. What a start to this new government!!

[@kevincoade1992]

Oh she's angry? Oh well that's alright then .... haha, these people are ludicrous.

[@carmelgrace8655]

Why doesn’t she stop the huge amounts allocated for foreign aid instead of cutting the winter fuel allowance for pensioners.

[@Napoleonwilson1973]

No pay cut for MPs amazing that 🤔

[@thelegendofspitfirehunter1457]

Welcome to Labour's promised land. IT WON'T WASH REEVES

[@SteveBoydon-j7u]

Millions of Pensioners are shaking with Anger but on the other hand all immigrants will be well looked after.

[@alanmichael5619]

you've done a very good job at repeating the line. It's BS - but you repeated it well!

[@deanmartin9358]

true

[@thecheesefactor]

A huge number of pensioners vote Tory. They were the last generation to really benefit from Tory policies. The Tories have made getting on the housing ladder much more difficult during these last 14 years, alienating young voters. Deportations are likely to increase as the Tories basically shut down the whole system leaving people in hotels or wandering about.

[@joblogs8886]

And kept warm. For naut

[@tokairic3925]

@@thecheesefactor I'm a pensioner. I don't believe that I have benefitted from any Government in my whole life. Every year the taxes get higher and the rewards lower. How long before we see the workhouses return?

[@David-nu5cj]

How effective are they going to be on getting people to maximise their pension credit. People will slip through this. Absolute targeted attack on vulnerable people with a lack of empathy that is breathtaking.

[@timrobinson9192]

Those elderly, worked all their lives, paid taxes over and over. Just thrown under the bus. Disgusting is the only word I can think of right now.

[@paulburns1333]

I'm shaking with anger, she could fill her £20 billion black hole by stopping giving it away to illegal immigrants.

[@johntomkins8906]

Or they could close down all the Tory tax loop holes and make Tories pay there Taxes in Britain for a change

[@nowster]

She has. Cancelling the Rwanda boondoggle will save a billion. And all we got for the three quarters of a billion already spent was four volunteers who were free to return to the UK.

[@charleshart6992]

This woman is a disgrace

[@fritzhenning1]

27% of pensioners live in millionaire households. Why is it a disgrace to not give them the WFA which should go to those that need it most?

[@JimRogers-oc2jd]

@@fritzhenning1 It is the 73% that will suffer!!!!! And the buck stops with her! They can NOT pass it, they accepted it! And there are other ways to fix! Like all politicians they never answer the questions before the voting starts. To add, clarity and caring starts at home! There are people In the UK homeless and in need of that that same care!

[@daveroberts4086]

Like The Pensioners Who Need It To Keep Warm In The Winter 🥶 Months. I Suppose You Don’t Need It Because You Are Not A Pensioner But A Moaning LIEBOUR Fool Of Stammer And Greves The Clowns 🤡 Without A Mask 😷 And A Circus 🎪 Tent ⛺️ Yet To Hide From The Pensioners Who Are After Their Own Money 💰 Back From These Untrustworthy Politicians And Fools Who Take It Back For Their Own Party 🥳 Of Clowns 🤡 And Robbers To Take Everything They Can Get Away With. They Should Be ashamed Of Themselves Hypocrites.

[@peterlewis6820]

Shes a very sexy lady

[@chrissmith-wq6gr]

How much does the House of Lords cost us each day?

[@corpclarke]

It costs £104m a year. Just for context the department for heath and social care costs £182,000m. So the house of lords costs the same amount every year as the department for health and social care costs about every 5 hours.

[@peterrattenbury8608]

A disgusting waste of money.

[@TryDiy]

At least the more elderly Lords won't be getting a winter fuel payment as anymore.

[@californiadreamin8423]

Labour are planning to get rid of hereditary peers.

[@karmanline2005]

An elected Upper House would probably cost more, and a bicameral system does seem best. I'm not saying an unelected body is a good thing though

[@yvonnemason9137]

I didn't vote to get the Tories out to have a Labour government treat people in the same way. Shame on them!

[@henryb160]

Seemingly worse. So you're one of the 20% who elected these dictators.

[@maureenchallener1529]

Lies lies he’s put money to share!!!😊

[@SteveShaw-nh4sb]

I bet they do not turn the heat down in commons or lords during winter in line with pensioner home temperatures.

[@TerryTerryTerry]

The daily cost of each illegal migrant? I would imagine it is close to a winter fuel payment when everything is totted together. Disgusting.

[@jedde-wiltonholmes3549]

I would suggest it cost far more..

[@geejaybee]

Way way more than wfa, way more

[@richardharkness9427]

Is Ed Miliband still intending to send 11.5 billion overseas as climate aid. With this black hole this taxpayers money must stay within the country

[@josephberrie9550]

well if you make the pensioners so poor they cant afford heating it all goes to some skuzbag politician saying they have halved global warming...but only in dead pensioners houses in january

[@FrostekFerenczy]

He'd better. We get more than that back.

[@loudrah326]

Milliband should never be allowed near politics! Sunak was responsible for the Lebor collapse he was awaiting trial for it! Milliband just got into no. 10 and he stopped that court trial and that was it, case closed! I am guessing Milliband also made millions like Sunak from the collapse..... Milliband is no better than the criminal Sunak... These are running our country! This should not be allowed... They all rub each other's backs.... Wouldn't surprise me one bit if they where all in bed together as well....

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

@@FrostekFerenczy Really?

[@DavidJarrold-e7j]

@@FrostekFerenczy Tell you what let’s just hold on to the £11.5 b and tell whoever it is that gives us more than that back they can keep it.

[@davidfoster2006]

10 billion pay rise for public sector workers, 11.6 billion for foreign aid, free food and WARM accommodation for asylum seekers, and some quite poor pensioners can freeze.

[@Georgie-G58]

That’s Liebour for ya …anyone who voted them in will pay the price in the end.

[@ronniesimpson9141]

It started with Cameron and got worse as the Tory's got worse and worse, so you idiots think a party in power for three weeks, caused it, proof indeed that Tory voters are idiot.

[@sahara1405]

@peterholden3672yes and you see why they voted for the Tories…………because they didn’t want to freeze to death.

[@user-vc5zt9ci12]

My aunts and uncles get the allowance... they're all millionaires (most don't claim ofc, but one does for sure). If you have any kind of support through DWP, then you're on credits, too. The allowance will remain if its needed.

[@BenRobinson1974]

take the state pension away from wealthy pensioners and problem solved.

[@Michael-r2c8k]

She claimed a £20,000,000,000 black hole in the finances but she won't repeat the claim Infront of the dispatch box as lying there is a criminal offence

[@charleswatson7281]

Maybe if Labour didn’t give 11 bn to Africa she wouldn’t have to rip off pensioners with winter heating allowance…..shameful

[@stevezodiac491]

What else did you expect, it's the LABOUR PARTY. Tax, Tax Tax. It will be the poor motorists next to be taxed off the road to fund immigrants. The electorate will regret the decision they made in very short order.

[@alanjeffs-ep8lq]

She announces winter fuel payment cuts for pensioners, but knows that fuel prices are going to go through the roof this winter , migrants will be looked after though, no need to worry about freezing for them

[@Georgie-G58]

That’s Liebour for ya, and all those that voted for them thought Tory’s where bad, 😂😂😂

[@catherinemartin6258]

@@Georgie-G58 you are a Tory what you on about

[@Georgie-G58]

@@catherinemartin6258 no I’m not… I’m even worse I’m a liberal

[@timwilliams113]

Fuel costs are coming down. Would you like to freeze migrants? How cruel are you?

[@alanmichael5619]

winter fuel payment cuts for *wealthy* pensioners. Immigrants have to pay taxes and national insurance like anyone else - the difference is that they have to pay £5,000 just to *apply* for a visa and another £4,700 two years later.

[@starsailor49]

Pensioners are already on their knees financially. I was unable to heat my home last winter, even WITH the winter fuel allowance. Labour are going to have blood on their hands next winter when prices soar again. But never mind, migrants will be handsomely rewarded!

[@tokairic3925]

I'd like to know when the human rights applied to migrants start being applied to our own population. of downtrodden overtaxed overworked people.

[@jarethnykoluk]

Pensioners are also the majority of the ones who have caused life for us younger people to be a nightmare! High taxes to cover your costs, higher rent so your age group gets richer when 25% of pensioners are millionaires. Lowest salary to house purchase ratios in modern times due to soaring mortgage costs… guess what introduced by pensioners having a monopoly on the housing market. I’m sure pensioners can be fine to go without heating a few days during the winter and save £200, just like they tell us everyday to cut costs.

[@stephennoble]

​@jarethnykoluk we have paid for our pension all our working life it's not our fault the governments has spent it do your research.

[@lizbull4263]

​@chrisgale5634 totally right Chris. I worked from the age of 15 to 67, until my body couldn't take any more and some have to work beyond that age. Not all pensioners are millionaires.😢

[@josephhenry4725]

I pay tax on my pension because I get slightly over 11k ..the 300 pounds I get for WFA pays for the ten bags of coal I light my fire with to top up my heating over the worst of the winter...1 bag a week ...not this winter though.

[@nigelbaldwin1038]

Let’s pray it’s not a cold winter..

[@alexdunn8574]

If she is shaking what do you think about millions of pensioners who will be shaking with the cold

[@yvonneward7848]

She wants to be shaking with anger at what has happened to our little children today .for god sake

[@fritzhenning1]

I'm sure she is. What makes you think that she is not. Are you the only one who is appalled. How dare you claim to be 'holier than thou'. We are all appalled.

[@kathchandler4919]

YOUR children? I'm crying my eyes out for those kiddies and their families but it so arrogant to call them 'your' children !

[@philipbusby8624]

They have just had a £7k + pay rise putting them on £90K+ add the expenses they claim up to £1m a year>They have to hit pensioners because we have no one to strike or do anything about it.

[@NeonVisual]

It would be a different story if the money you "paid in" stopped the pension after 4 years of claiming, because that's how much, adjusted for inflation, that you're enttled to. Not decades of shirking. The pension is there for people who are too infirm to work and it can be claimed at any point after retirement age. There's no requirement to actually stop going to work, that's your choice and the public purse isn't going to pay for decades of shirking, you're already getting unlimited life-increasing NHS access too, at no cost, in addition to the access you had through your working life.

[@jakestevenson6388]

Also because you're statistically the richest demographic. I have no objection to people who can't afford their bills being supported, but currently everyone above a certain age gets the fuel allowance, whether you're a millionaire or in poverty. It is reasonable to review this.

[@nothereandthereanywhere]

I think expanses are 'just' £250k a year?

[@sidsod1616]

​@@jakestevenson6388 where did they do these statistics, the South East and affluent areas something? Because there aren't many rich ones near me , they don't all shop in sainsburys ,your more likely to see them coming out of food banks.

[@tara1941]

And Royalty got a 58% rise

[@davidmcalpine8363]

Here we go didn’t take long for them to hit the pensioners who rely on the winter fuel payment to get them through that period absolutely disgusting

[@melgrant7404]

Yes it is disgusting. Even the tories changed their mind on axing fuel payments.

[@thecheesefactor]

If they are on benefits they will still get the payment. Many pensioners are very capable of forgoing the payment, particularly considering their Spanish holidays and such.

[@tokairic3925]

@@thecheesefactor No holidays here, just enough savings to feel safe - but then suddenly last year our heating bills doubled! Not poor enough for benefits so lose the fuel allowance. Just enough money to not be helped at all. Just watching our low standard of living get even lower. We froze last winter and saw double bills but this winter will be worse.

[@lizbull4263]

​@@tokairic3925so sorry to hear that. I am in the same boat. Not all pensioners are millionaires

[@TalesOfWar]

If you need it, you'll get it. They're removing it from those who can afford it.

[@Nemo59646]

I was looking forward to receiving the Winter Fuel Payment next year as a universal benefit. I won't be getting the Winter Fuel Payment,as I get a very small occupational pension of less than a £100 a week. This excludes me from getting pension credit and hence the Winter Fuel Payment. I've cerebral palsy,which effects my circulation,which means my feet,toes and hands are always cold. 30 years of employment despite my disability. I'm apoplectic with rage!

[@stevefrancis1896]

Difficult decisions always means people becoming poorer , but never those who make these Difficult decisions

[@daviddavidk2352]

Only last week there was enough money to hand out £85 million in foreign aid. Obvious where your priorities are Labour

[@AtlasCanTakeIt]

Because Labour actually intend on keeping their promises and respecting commitments, even when those commitments were made by the most fiscally useless Tory government in living memory. I'm no big fan of this Labour party, but the comments here are hilarious. Have you lot all been sleeping for fourteen years?

[@ZacharyTylor]

Comes out from different department budget.

[@timwilliams113]

£85 million is very different from £20bn by a factor of 2000

[@alanmichael5619]

£85 million is just 0.3% of the hole in the budget.

[@daviddavidk2352]

@@ZacharyTylor oh so that makes taking money away from pensioners ok then, didn’t realise that

[@tokairic3925]

Shaking with anger my foot. She is sitting pretty on over £1.5k a year whilst taking the fuel allowance off pensioners, alot of whom will be just above the limit to claim benefits and now will be £300 per year worse off plus whatever the heating bills are going to rise this winter - and rise they will no doubt.

[@davidanderson7138]

she is NOT "shaking in anger", she is shaking in embarrassment!

[@AnnMundie-k3y]

They will be taxing us for the air we breathe next😢

[@joemoore7447]

Be careful for what you wish for it may just become true ! Thanks to all that voted Labour!

[@Michael-td3gz]

While giving doctors a pay rise, state employees a pay rise...millions a day on illegals foreign aid, but take winter payment off oaps...labour are gross

[@kills26]

The money we give to illegals and foreign aid isn't a gift, it's not an act of generosity it's costed and we do it for influence over the countries they come from and also to keep Britain relevant. You and honestly the vast majority might not like it, but it actually earns us money in the long run. I give you 5 quid I get back 6 type of thing. Also I get to look good for giving you 5 quid and have a say in how you spend that 5 quid. There is no such thing as altruism.

[@michaelbirkett4932]

@@kills26how is allowing an unrestricted number of illegal immigrants to come and settle here benefiting the UK in the long run?

[@harishkaria5644]

Please remember this after 5 years when you cast your vote 🥲

[@davidgeorgea]

I keep hearing that these Immigrants arriving on rubber boats should be sent back . So l want to know where do we send them to . And so where are we going to send them !!!

[@howarddavis2281]

I've been a Labour supporter most of my life, but this 'shaking with anger' nonsense is totally disingenuous. Anybody could see the 'black hole' well before the election but both major parties, assisted by a supine news media colluded in silence. It was no surprise. Labour could raise the money from other sources - wealthier sources. To cut is a disgraceful political choice.

[@paulpenfold2352]

This has been the only real sensible post. Of course there was going to be a black hole after covid, the energy price guarantee, and money poured into the Ukraine, not to mention housing benefit and welfare that just grows and grows, and mass immigration which is really just government subsidized cheap labour. The country's had it.

[@ajadrew]

In the Sunday Times yesterday, an article by Robert Colvile stating that the new chancellor knew all about this (20bn hole) long ago.... it's pure political bs when Reeves claims they've just found out. The perfect excuse to then do the things they said they wouldn't.... As a new pensioner thta heating allowance would be a source of food - I can easily put another jumper on if it's cold.

[@BMack-p9s]

Yes, by capping energy company profits - then there would be no need for a winter fuel allowance.

[@kimbardgett1664]

Im not a banker but how about dumping the french non wanted back into france there is a saving and then stop foreign aid as it doesnt seem to be used the right. Way its paying traffickers it looks like another huge saving before attacking the. Old,sick citzens .Plus no pay rises for mps until there isnt a blackhole .Plus make it clear to councils budgets are there for a reason its not an idea they are a must .

[@paullegend6798]

It was well reported neither party were mentioning this funding shortfall before the election. It has been known about for a long time.

[@Nemo59646]

Tax the rich with over ten million pounds. Austerity shrinks the economy!

[@derekmay8679]

Treating vulnerable people like this is utterly unacceptable...Those who have been relying on it will be in a serious condition when it gets colder... They've paid in, done their working time and they deserve to be treated well later in life...Part of being a good person is caring for those in need ...

[@melvynmobbs]

Labours drawn the short straw I'm an 82 year old pensioner ,watch the grey vote Labour.

[@domichall666]

Nobody should have voted labour in the first place, reform will soon replace them very soon hopefully

[@wulfhere83]

My nan's 87, she doesn't vote at all anymore she says they are all liars. She's right.

[@TerenceCousins]

Labour simply don't care!

[@peterlewis6820]

Was that why you voted labour then!

[@daveroberts4086]

Nope Not Me 😂.

[@philipmilner9638]

Rachael Revees and he 'cohorts', knew of all the problems in the UK, it goes way back to Gordon Brown's Labour government, when the banks were bailed out (they should have let them go bankrupt). All the information is/was available in the 'public domain...'

[@PaulK-ve1pu]

And what do you think would have happened if all the banks went bust? And 14 years of Tory misrule? Obviously not an issue for you. You do know that not all opinions carry equal weight, don't you?

[@barbarabell2396]

​@@PaulK-ve1puIs this the same black hole that the IMF and others had publicly warned about before the election?

[@PaulK-ve1pu]

@@barbarabell2396 Well, yes Barbara. Others too. It looks increasingly likely that the Tories gave up on governing around 2020 and decided just to fight among themselves. A criminal dereliction of duty. I didn't vote Labour at the last election, but I find it laughable that a government elected THIS month is somehow responsible for what went on over the last 14 years. These people fall into one of two categories. Carpet chewing Reform racists or Redder than Thou armchair socialists who would rather throw the entire country under a Tory bus as long as they can say they didn't compromise. It's this thinking that gave Thatcher 11 years to eviscerate the working class.

[@alanmichael5619]

Unfortunately the banks did need to bailed out else the entire economy would have been collapsed (there should have been more prosecutions though!). The problem that has been identified is that the Tories fudged the numbers - the OBR is actually now investigating it because it's clear they lied on the public disclosures.

[@alanmichael5619]

@@barbarabell2396 I think it is. But Labour were basing their numbers on the OBR reports etc.

[@JohnAdams-kc8wx]

What about all the billions sent to Ukraine? Always help others before UK citizens.

[@nilocnolnah6788]

So she goes for the easiest? But she forgets most of the pensioners are voters.

[@redbeard3923]

But 5 star hotels still busy with dingy boys

[@user-vc5zt9ci12]

Yes... that's the bit that she was super angry about. The tories had an undeclared overspend on 6200 million just on that.

[@susanwestern6434]

​@@user-vc5zt9ci12 So she will pay to house them in houses instead.

[@user-vc5zt9ci12]

@susanwestern6434 the policy is to process them and send them back

[@alanmichael5619]

@@susanwestern6434 the policy is to process the applications so that they either get deported or start contributing to the economy instead of the government spending billions on keeping them in shoddy accommodation.

[@lal2300]

Ya I’m thinking of changing my name to Hamza and moving in for a few months from November 🤔

[@tokairic3925]

All my working life the state pension was a right for all. We paid into a system that was supposed to look after us. Now we pensioners are being blamed for all the financial ills created by various governments over the decades. Its not the working peoples fault. It is entirely the fault of successive governments of all colours, but as usual the working people pay the price. I am only in a reasonable financial position because I have worked hard, saved and lived a frugal life. Now in my old age I find that it will become rapidly more frugal and frankly miserable. I have watched folk on benefits living in council houses live better lives than me, as I have paid for what I need. While they went on foreign holidays, I stayed at home and paid my mortgage. Now that is being held against me. If the state pension is means tested I will lose it, until I have spent all my savings and sold my house - then what?? there are no social housing projects so I could end up homeless after a fully responsible self sufficient life. Until now I have cost the state nothing, and paid continuously into NI and Taxes. Pensioners have become easy targets.

[@jeremygough1387]

Is that based on the last 14 years or 14 days?

[@monicas2269]

Why does it have to be cut completely for those not on pension credit? Couldn't it just be lowered to £100 or £150, an allowance per household rather than for a couple. It was the same with the TV licence fee for the over 75s, instead of just keeping a modest charge, it was taken away altogether. Obviously the TV licence isn't as serious as the fuel allowance but for some of us pensioners the TV is the only enjoyment we get. What about cutting the MPs perks,

[@ffrederickskitty214]

I was right not to entrust my vote to Labour

[@philgc11111]

Now I've heard it all. British pensioners living in Europe where it's warm, even if they exceed the new wealth threshold set by Rachel Reeves, keep the winter fuel allowance this year?? while millions of the elderly at home in the UK cold winter, are stripped of the payment and train drivers who are on 40k plus, get a pay rise ??... Governments disgusting, choosing unions above health.

[@RobThomson-x8g]

Are we still sending money abroad in 'aid'? Are we wasting billions on other trendy issues?

[@andrewmerriman7133]

Labour MP's must vote against the cut to the Winter Fuel Allowance and defeat the Government if they don't then the next thing Labour will do is remove the Old Age Pension for anyone with more than £16,000 in assets. They should remove the Oversees Aid Budget and replace it with an Oversees Disaster Budget to help people in countries that have suffered Natural Disasters. Money for Israel and Ukraine should be stopped, we cannot be giving money to other countries to fund their wars if we cannot look after our Pensioners properly.

[@Ladynipchick2]

Agree.

[@marianpower6711]

We pay into the system to help Britsh standards, British people.Not the rest of the world.and especially Not Illegal Immigrants.

[@FredericFreedom]

They don't care. Don't focus on the people we see, concentrate on the unelected special interests, corporations that are behind this disaster.

[@lizbull4263]

Yes, endless amounts of money for ukraine

[@amelial3517]

Agreed. Britain for British citizens. Not refugees. Not illegals.

[@melgrant7404]

Well.off people don't need it but the ones that will be worse hit is people that don't qualify for pension credit but aren't well off .

[@catherinemartin6258]

Not really though

[@melgrant7404]

​​@@catherinemartin6258why do you think that .do you read the comments.the ones I read from pensioners say exactly what I said.

[@Mudbath60]

Why should pensioners who have worked all their lives saved money be treated worse than pensioners who have not saved and probably had a better life in their young years it is totally unfair

[@fritzhenning1]

@@Mudbath60 Just imagine if daddy had been a rich landowner and handed all his wealth over to you.

[@deadandburied7626]

Shameful cutting cold weather pensions 😮😢

[@hughcaskey9542]

Shaking with anger does she want an Oscar for acting millions of people shake with anger when she appears on screen

[@davidclark1545]

I’m already working on getting my mother in law to take a great holiday, that will bring her savings below the limit. She can then get the care that she currently pays for and the Winter Fuel Allowance paid as she would be able to claim pension credits. No point in having savings in your old age…

[@BenRobinson1974]

Why would there be a point to ever having savings in old age?

[@davidclark1545]

@@BenRobinson1974 none now, you might as well blow it all and let the state pay for everything. There is no reward for hard work and financial propriety.

[@Zalley]

Especially if there’s a Labour government

[@illegalopinions4082]

​@@davidclark1545She'd do better to transfer it to the kids or offshore it

[@tokairic3925]

Its difficult to spend your savings when you've spent your whole life being frugal and saving up "just in case". Its frightening to lay yourself open to financial problems.

[@jimoconnor2594]

How much to feed and house the illegals ?

[@alanmichael5619]

£0 because we don't feed and house illegal immigrants in the UK. But the tories did waste £7 billion on gimmicks that did nothing to help with the problem of actual illegal immigration.

[@matthewwiddows6319]

£100 a day per person at least when you factor in all costs, £700 per week, £2800+ per month...... winter fuel payment peanuts compared to cost of one boat person, but hey you still voted tory and Labour into first a second place, your fault!!!

[@lal2300]

Circa £14M + per DAY!

[@AlexanderScott-w3w]

Too much

[@egertonmark]

​@alanmichael5619 the boaties are illegal migrants so your figures are wrong.

[@troop73oo]

Labour need to be careful they don't do something they will never be forgiven for.

[@sylviabaxter265]

Like Maggi took the milk of the school children 😢

[@robertadams1054]

@@troop73oo well they are going the right way about it. Bloody disgusting.

[@daveroberts4086]

They Already Have Pensioners Winter ❄️ Fuel Allowance. So Cruel And Uncalled For But That’s The Liebour Thing Taking Money 💰 Of The Pensioners And They Give It Back To The LIEBOUR Party 🥳 Of Clowns 🤡. They Are Going To Be Dissatisfied With This And Then Will Want More Money 💰 From More Taxpayers. The Government Of Clowns 🤡 And Hypocrites Will Take Your Breath If You Say Too Much About How Cruel They Are So Shameful And Shameless And Should Be Ashamed Of THEMSELVES THE LYING 🤥 HYPOCRITES.

[@Minechain.]

Stop all heating at government buildings

[@nigeljohnson9820]

Labour might have inherited a financial black hole, but Labour has a choice about how it deals with the shortfall. So far the choices have been wrong.

[@allenhanley2359]

Shaking with anger my foot. Hitting the most vulnerable where it hurts. I get a quid a week more than the minimum to claim pension credit, £52 a year so she takes another £300 off me. Winter fuel allowance is a lifeline for 90% of pensioners but hey . She's ok, that's all that matters. I'm tempted to use Angela Rayner's scxm label on the whole of the Liebour front bench.

[@lizbull4263]

Yes they are supposed to be socialists protecting the vulnerable, joke.

[@lal2300]

At least she’s not shaking with cold 🥶! 😡

[@deniseharris1853]

I’m feeling your pain as it’s a similar situation for me. It’s utterly disgusting to treat pensioners this way after they have worked hard and contributed to this country all their life.

[@ianlarman]

Who is this lefty schill radio presenter??

[@Tigger-roo1234]

Shaking in fear more like because she knew it would be bad

[@jamescroxford7258]

Tax the rich, because that’s where our money has gone!

[@jamescroxford7258]

@davidnope8653 and invest the money back into the economy! 🤷 Can’t really tax the poor because they have no money!

[@claretblue2509]

Tax the rich. They’ll just leave the country.

[@FrostekFerenczy]

@@claretblue2509 - good. We're better off with out those leeches.

[@jamescroxford7258]

@@claretblue2509 I’ll drive them to the airport! 👍

[@claretblue2509]

@@FrostekFerenczy wait until you find out how industries work.

[@mushtaqmohammed1707]

Shaking with hypocrisy..... backtracking on false promises. No different to tory shambles.

[@JanetHyde-nj3yb]

Has everyone forgotten that the two years of covid caused a lot of this debt. It seems to have been conveniently forgotten.

[@horseobrien395]

Well yeah but there's no problem finding money for our African friends tho is there

[@georgethompson453]

Some of these responses on the winter fuel allowance show the high level of animosity aimed at pensioners from those of a younger age. When a government’s action pits one generation against another that’s a really big mistake.

[@lindylewgutteridge809]

Well, all those of a younger age will be a pensioner one day, they will realise they should have stuck up for 2days pensioners,.to keep their future pension safe.

[@TalesOfWar]

When you see what those who are now pensioners have done for the younger generations you'll understand the animosity towards them. A generation that got given everything then pulled the ladder up behind them. The most entitled and pandered to generation in history. I know not all pensioners are like this, but enough of them are that we're in the place we're in.

[@Lorraine-p4r]

The media does it to.

[@alvarodemelo8850]

😂King Charles III's monarchy is set to receive a pay rise of more than 45 million pounds as Britain grapples with a spiralling cost of living crisis. Rachel Reeves' cut to winter fuel payments to pensioners. You couldn't make it up folks 🤣

[@davidglover9210]

If he was a proper king who cared about his subjects he could always turn the rise down and give it to pensioners and others who need it. He doesn't, what a waste of space that family are.

[@rossmansell5877]

Boy are they digging their grave.......

[@rolandhawken6628]

Neat how they manage to blame the last gov when they could have saved money on the refugees doctors and overseas aid keeping China people warm while Brits freeze

[@TalesOfWar]

Don't worry, nobody will remember in 5 years when we next have an election. It seems people have already forgotten about the last 14 years of the Tories that put us in this current mess in the first place.

[@ianseward9928]

I dont believe she wasnt aware of it . They needed to check the small print . Its a disgrace which wont be forgotten for many years to come . A thatcher moment .

[@STEVEBINNION1]

Remember the winter fuel payment's go to the energy companies

[@paulbird3235]

They didn't "hit the ground running", they "hit the pensioners running".

[@fritzhenning1]

27% of pensioners live in 'millionaire' households. They need more hand-outs, not less. Hope you agree!

[@paulbird3235]

@@fritzhenning1 Where is that, Hollywood or LA.

[@josephmcguckin961]

All pensioners stop paying council tax, spend the money on heating.

[@pattralee]

Let them huddle together for warmth - Queen Rachel.

[@Georgie-G58]

@@pattralee And the Tool Makers Son

[@dayanpillai5124]

You must be joking. !!!!!! THE BANKS, BAILIFFS,COUNCIL AND POLICE COME MOB HANDED TO TAKE YOUR HOME

[@rolandhawken6628]

I don't want to go to prison .So I will have to risk freezing

[@davidhodgson3901]

Pensioners on secondary benefit and those over 80 will still receive the heating allowance. Many pensioners don’t rely on the benefit that’s not means tested.

[@jeffsmith3392]

Take money off freezing pensioners to give to Muslim arrivals in their twenties via dinghies!

[@monicas2269]

Perhaps the government could start handing out pills to those of us pensioners who have just had enough, we could end it all and be less for them to think about.

[@Michael-nh7zt]

She needs to be shaking with worry because we pensioners need to take to the streets and show our anger. remember the poll tax marches.

[@hughcaskey9542]

Can’t get much more evil than stopping the winter fuel allowance for pensioners and blaming an imaginary 22 million black hole at the same time awarding massive pay rises dosent add up does it

[@jamesrashbrook9485]

The doctor's inflation busting 20% pay raise could have paid for elderly not freezing to death in winter

[@TristanJ22]

You’d assume those that are freezing to death will be on universal credit and therefore exempt from this.

[@stevezodiac491]

​@TristanJ22 there are millions of pensioners, just above the benefits threshold who will suffer badly.

[@RobertWatkins-k6f]

It's a ploy to get elderly off the NHS waiting list and stop further state pension payments.

[@lindylewgutteridge809]

20% and your lucky to get an appt.

[@joycejnn]

How many billions paid to overseas climate change ?

[@simondb99]

"overseas climate change"...*snigger*

[@Jessjoe1956]

How many billions to Tory donors.

[@tf2368]

@MI-rz4wq those are rookie numbers, they should be spending at least 100 billion on foreign climate change, whatever that is

[@changwillneverdie9378]

wonder how much its going to cost to fix the weather?

[@TalesOfWar]

@MI-rz4wq What we can't afford is for the climate to continue to change to the point where more and more people will be fleeing their country and looking for asylum. All the people who don't like foreigners being here should be all for helping them at home so they stay there and have no reason to want to come here.