A small note on the video in general- you did a lot of disclaimers before reading, and a rule we had in my poetry fellowship was no disclaimers. If you feel the urge to say anything like "this is unfinished" "this still needs work" or "I'm not happy with.." you had to say Moew. It's a bit silly, but the point is to let your work stand on it's own. When you disclaim it makes it difficult for the audience to focus on anything other than what you are unhappy with, when your poems are amazing! If you aren't confident in your work, that's ok (I'm certainly not in mine), but you are going to be much harsher on yourself than the listener, so allowing them to form their own thoughts, unshadowed by how you feel about the work, will often incite kinder, fresher, more objective, and more helpful feedback. I still struggle with this, but remember to just say meow!
@SequoiaSleeps3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought so too. The whole “the poem needs to stand on it’s own” concept doesn’t work well when you talk about your thought process and behind the scenes of making it beforehand.
@bethany79043 жыл бұрын
yes i was literally thinking exactly this - my writing teachers had the exact same rule because it'll change how the reader feels about the piece, and when she gave the analysis of the poems (i know it's her style and its what she does!) but it kind of meant that we couldn't figure out those things for ourselves! i didn't even see some of her explanation of the poem in it because it wasn't clear enough for me,,, so all the disclaimer and explanation makes it a lot harder to formulate a wholly individual response to give feedback
@bhanu14pratap923 жыл бұрын
Do follow me for some poetry :)! @agratagupta
@benin7713 жыл бұрын
You are great, thank you! This helped me a lot. ❤❤
@pseudonym37333 жыл бұрын
@@Yo3j2442 What on Earth are you talking about??
@gbarr9993 жыл бұрын
The biggest UNO reverse card of the CENTURY
@bhanu14pratap923 жыл бұрын
Do follow me for some poetry :)! @agratagupta
@gretagoogames3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely clapped after her first poem, like damn
@zoe_bee3 жыл бұрын
English professor and published poet, here! The biggest issue I always see (even in the work of experienced poets) is Abstraction. Basically, writers often include abstract language (love, fear, hatred, passion, good, bad, etc.) to add weight to a poem, but those words actually make poems weaker. To make poems stronger, use physical, concrete images. These images can be metaphorical, for sure, like in your first poem, where you have the extended bomb image. That leads into another suggestion, which is to not use too many mixed metaphors (unless that's the point, like in that Sylvia Plath pregnancy poem), and to make sure your metaphors always work on as many levels as possible. And finally: clichés. Clichés ONLY make your poems weaker. Again, unless they're being used to prove a point (like pointing out how someone didn't actually love you because they only said "I love you" in clichés). Otherwise, stay away. (Avoid clichés like the plague, amiright?) Overall, I think your passion and content are really great. It's the images and metaphors that I'd work on, along with the meter (which you brought up as something you wanted to work on!). Anyway, these are well done, and I'm excited to see how you keep growing as a poet!
@samspam17883 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@zq51273 жыл бұрын
I agree. I think the problem across these poems (much less so in the last one imo) is that they give the message and not how we get there. They’re almost like the step after the poem and not the poem itself, if that makes sense? I think you, Rachel, need to trust your audience to understand the point of your poem and the techniques. The ‘fun’ of reading a poem, from the reader’s perspective, is working through the puzzle and trying to figure out the various levels of meaning. Don’t give the answer away!
@nadialakeclement94753 жыл бұрын
Great advice!! I totally agree, especially about the concrete images. Poem 1 I think was the least concrete, and thus, the most boring/cliché sounding. I think the best poems point out extremely specific, concrete things, and let the reader determine WHY the poet is calling our attention to those things.
@rflcain3 жыл бұрын
absolutely agreed! I'd love to check out your works too!
@RickReasonnz3 жыл бұрын
Goodness. That was so real I had to make sure I didn't have a paper nearby stained with test-marker red! Great to see constructive criticism.
@sarahhegg96003 жыл бұрын
First Poem: I loved the alliteration. Like you were spitting out the words in disgust, it felt real and added a lot to the imagery. I wish the last stanza felt more powerful, because the rest of the poem felt so powerful, then broke down near the end. Maybe add more imagery, or alliteration, one last insult before you leave the, the feelings you leave them with. Second Poem: LOVE LOVE LOVE the graphic imagery. It felt so powerful to hear, and to read, a poem I can go back to and look at the layers multiple times, very relatable. Love the spitting out of the words, but the poem feels like it needs more purpose. I love the overall imagery, but I would love it to be more specified so I can feel like the graphic images are all wounds from different instances that lead you to the end. I agree the last line is a bit of a cliché, you could edit it by maybe saying "Blood leaking through the wounds your indifference cut". Just ideas, I think the last line should be as graphic as the other lines. Third Poem Again, alliteration and imagery are incredible. I think I would enjoy the poem more if the "you" was changed to maybe a natural disaster, or just in general less descriptive. The rest of the poem is so flowy that the "you" and "me" in it fell less powerful. I would love more imagery, comparing yourself to this beauty, and maybe turn the "you" into something slowly destroying that beautiful habitat. Maybe make the kids part more powerful, saying that natural disaster moved to a new habitat and broke it just like me, but in a way that was different. Describe the toxicity. SHOW THOSE LAYERS. I love hearing you talk about the poems, but make the layers more descriptive, they can still be vague, but more prominent. Fourth Poem: I love this poem. I love the "Mum", it makes it feel personal. I love the 3rd person point of view, it feels special, a slice of life. I love the imagery, the description of the scene, like your focusing on those very specific parts to get away from the silence. I would love to see you write more poems like this. Honestly my favorite so far. I would love more description, maybe relate it to your later life. However, as it is, incredible. I love it a lot. It's very hard to find criticism for it, because of how much it makes me feel and how well written it is. Take this criticism with a grain of salt, because of love this poem so so much. In Conclusion: Your use of writing techniques is phenomenal. The poems all have a flow and feel like they are delivered with a purpose. The main thing I picked up listening and reading your poems that I find you lost in the techniques and not really let the words speak for themselves, if that makes any sense. You don't let the feelings sink in long enough before you are on to the next thing. My main advice would be to let your hurt show in your writing. Let us feel with you. This is all constructive I hope, because in all honesty I loved your poems and they are much better than what I could do, but I want you to go further because you are already so good I can't wait to see what you come up with next. I hope you found my criticism helpful, and again I can't wait to see more of your poetry because it is good, but has even more potential, and that is so exciting.
@RachelOates3 жыл бұрын
This is AMAZING. Thank you so much!
@sarahhegg96003 жыл бұрын
@@RachelOates No problem! Keep writing :D
@ebbe27923 жыл бұрын
This is such a well written constructive criticism even though I slightly disagree with somethings that you have written but poetry is subjective and I really enjoyed reading your analysis.
@sarahhegg96003 жыл бұрын
@@ebbe2792 thank you so much! & id love to know what you thought about it & what we disagree on because part of the reason i love poetry is because it’s subjective.
@michellecardenas77033 жыл бұрын
@@RachelOates the difference in how you and Gabbie Hanna respond to constructive criticism says a lot about you both as people!
@theooooooooo33 жыл бұрын
these were lovely! this is a small thing, but the poem about the wildfire might be served better by imagery of your fingers being scorched or burnt rather than bruised and bloody
@RachelOates3 жыл бұрын
Oh great idea! Thank you!
@emmalee44523 жыл бұрын
@@RachelOates i think the alliteration could still be kept too. Like "blackened, burnt" or something similar or with another letter. idk i like the way the alliteration flows in that line so i hope you keep it!
@CarlsCozyCorner3 жыл бұрын
@@RachelOates I also would write something about fire being alluring. Like, why did you get into the relationship despite the red flags? Did the warmth seduct you? Were the embers enchanting? It's just an idea
@abbeyw17203 жыл бұрын
My advice is to not be afraid to get a little more weird with language. Get freaky! And trust your audience. I think you are definitely talented. Thank you for sharing with us.
@CarlsCozyCorner3 жыл бұрын
Yes! She's obviously holding back with some of her imagery
@harleyviolet5703 жыл бұрын
What do you think of this? Mad Alice I was an illusion, the image you saw staring back at you was a broken fantasy. Now I've found the pieces of me along the way. Now I'm the ringleader, running this shit like a circus! The reflection of the broken fantasy of me shattered into an million pieces. Stripped the old version down and bloomed like a marigold! Now your walking on the shattered glass of karma. Mr. Pighead made a fool of himself trying to be the main attraction but he's just a side act! Better move or you may blow a tire on your unicycle. So beware. The memory of you is a blur, don't want it back. If you seek me out, Don't forget to walk away.
@athiefinthenight68942 жыл бұрын
@@harleyviolet570 trippy
@contrapasso3 жыл бұрын
So this might be a tad hard to explain, but I noticed that you do a lot of “telling.” You have awesome descriptions/imagery and poetic techniques, but a lot of the time (for me at least) they fizzle a little bit because you’re telling the poem as if it’s a story. Of course, some poems do tell stories, but they do it differently. I read a poem yesterday by a Reddit user that started “yesterday died a slow death / a fist unclenched / a yellow balloon circled the sun.” There we have powerful and intriguing imagery. Compare that with “My emerald green leaves will pierce the charred soil, and life will begin again.” Yours seems a bit like you’re coaching the reader. In the poem I quoted, you can feel how unwilling the day is to let go and move forward. The poet doesn’t have to say what they mean because it’s already clear. I think what can really take your poems (which are already lovely) to the next level is to work on the “showing” aspect. You definitely do “show” already, but a little more would help. Thanks so much for sharing these with us! That can’t have been easy and I loved hearing them!
@adavi69023 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I thought as well. Rachel uses powerful and evocative imagery, and I think her poems will be really elevated by letting the imagery speak for itself. The fourth one was my favourite in that respect. For that poem I feel that possibly substituting 'marriage' for simply 'dinner' at the end would sustain the metaphor of the broken marriage more effectively without being on the nose, but that's just my personal opinion. Very excited to see more of your work, Rachel!
@nadialakeclement94753 жыл бұрын
@@adavi6902 Yes! I totally agree. I like it when poets just give us the images and let them sit there - raw and unpolished. I feel like poem 1 was mostly telling rather than showing, and poem 3 also had too much telling, even amidst all the great imagery. I wish that poem 3 just described the scorched earth and fire, rather than saying "you were the fire" or "you cracked my seeds" or "i'll grow back strong" etc. The reader can figure out that you're talking about yourself and a previous partner - we don't need anyone to tell us this. A poem that does this super well is "Rabbits and Fire" by Alberto Rios. It's one of my favorite poems of all time and I still don't even know WHY he's telling us about the rabbits and fire (I don't know if it's a metaphor for something personal in his life, or in society, or what) - but it still evokes an intensely visceral feeling of pain, fear, loss, helplessness, futility, and the cruelness of nature. Even though the structure of the poem does involve the poet "telling" us about the rabbits, he doesn't ever tell us WHY the rabbits are important, or what they're a metaphor for, or how we're supposed to interpret it, and this is the best kind of poetry, in my opinion. Check the poem out - it's so good!
@snooz50193 жыл бұрын
I read that poem on Reddit too! It is so good.
@TheRacingWind3 жыл бұрын
yessss trust the reader! it's what I always remind myself when writing
@RickReasonnz3 жыл бұрын
I found that these are narratives with imagery. There's a place for poems like that, just as there are for pure imagery.
@dalehudson67313 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video, I only wish you would consistently read your poems as they are before any backstory, context or explanation, so as to let them be first interpreted without any set perspective or bias, you know? Perhaps people might've interpreted a few of your poems to have completely different messages had we not already been told their general themes before hearing them, which would be the case if ever you plan to publish a poetry book or something of the like, so I imagine it would be useful to you to hear feedback untarnished by prerequisite knowledge of the poem. Than's all :)
@kate68493 жыл бұрын
If you ever ever compare your beautiful poetry to sLeEp Is NeAt, I will positively scream
@LonaLittleArt3 жыл бұрын
iF yOu'Re HaViNg TrOuBlE cOuNt sOmE sHeEp
@safala3 жыл бұрын
I am disapp-ointed that I don’t remember those poems now.
@ipeksukaraoguz14813 жыл бұрын
I was so happy to see that you're posting a video... I hope you are okay with everything that is happening. Sending lots of love and support!
@rebekahmccann64293 жыл бұрын
I'm not knowledgable about poetry at all but, as an indigenous Australian, I do have some criticism for your bushfire poem: In my opinion, I think you slightly misframed the idea of the wildfire. I don't know what it's like where you live, but in Australia, bushfires are a very necessary part of the natural cycle of the ecosystem. Without bushfires, Australia's natural landscape would not survive. In Trista's poem it says that there are plants that need the fire in order to germinate and grow. By doing this, Trista (by my interpretation) frames the bushfire as an allegory for the act of getting out of a toxic relationship. It may seem difficult and painful and hopeless now, but it is *necessary* in order for you to change and grow as a person. Your poem, on the other hand, seems to frame the bushfire as an allegory for the toxic relationship itself. Which would've been okay, if you hadn't *also* framed the bushfire as something necessary for growth and change. In the final stanza, you use the lines, "They say there are seeds that need fire to germinate / And I think you cracked mine," which makes it sound like you're saying that the toxic relationship was necessary, even a good thing, because it's what you needed in order to grow. Which is not a healthy message to spread, that toxic relationships are okay because without it you wouldn't be able to grow as a person. I really don't think that was your intention, but that's just how it sounded to me. Other than that final stanza, though, I really liked your spin on the whole concept. The imagery of the flowers and bees was a nice addition. But fuck, sorry this comment is so long. It was only meant to be a few lines long, but then I didn't feel like I was explaining myself well enough and now here we are I guess.
@RachelOates3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing feedback, thank you!! ❤️
@SequoiaSleeps3 жыл бұрын
I think your little tangent about the “barren” bit and children would be REALLY good if you developed it into it’s own poem! It’s definitely too subtle in the original for anyone to see it or find it, but it’d make a fantastic poem if you dove more into the idea. I liked the rant you went on and I think you could do something fantastic with it.
@UncannyDoge3 жыл бұрын
First poem: I wish there was more contrast between the “flowery” stanzas and the last stanza. The contrast could be pushed further: the animalistic, feral imagery explored more. I’d want to see less “real world” images in the first section opposing the stark reality of the last stanza to really push the structure and change a step further. This way the last stanza really packs a stark punch.
@britann95393 жыл бұрын
Oof, I've never had the courage to share my painful childhoodpublically. You're so brave. And holy crap that last poem was BRILLIANT. Like for real for real, not just the message being eloquently shared but the euphony rhythm flow etc. Oh but, this is absolutely arguable. And could just be a difference in how we use English or maybe its a flow thing? Im not sure but, I like the way "a marriage long since [gone] cold" sounds. Super arguable point, just mentioning for the helluvit in case u happen to agree.
@elenagergis3593 жыл бұрын
Let’s be real... Nothing can be as bad as Gabbie Hanna’s poetry Edit: Because some people can’t figure this out on their own, I’m talking in terms of POETRY. Not social issues. 🤦🏽♀️
@PeoplecallmeLucifer3 жыл бұрын
allergies?
@hjelsethak3 жыл бұрын
@@PeoplecallmeLucifer yeah, allergies are pretty bad.
@moonbase36283 жыл бұрын
this comment would fit among gabbie's poetry AS a poem of her lvl, you just need to add some basic drawing on the side
@hjelsethak3 жыл бұрын
@Alyssa Rowe Yeah, good point, like a crumb to an ant. Or wait. An ant's crumb to an ant.
@elenagergis3593 жыл бұрын
@Alyssa Rowe Jeez, everyone needs to chill. I’m talking in terms of poetry. This video isn’t about social issues, it’s about poetry.
@bee98923 жыл бұрын
i think “killing me slowly from the inside out” could definitely be changed to something with more imagery if that makes sense
@angelathemoment3 жыл бұрын
I though "devaouring (me) from the inside" would sound better!
@blairwasser75333 жыл бұрын
agreed, something more potent like attacking, devouring is good, decimating, ruining
@PeoplecallmeLucifer3 жыл бұрын
ok now I'll try to give some actual feedback the best I can: Poem 1. this might be a nitpick but in the third stanza ... I think the "AND" would work better as the beginning of the third line than the end of the second in this case. kinda brakes the tempo you read it IMO Poem 2 I have no comment on that I love it Poem.3 I'd go with "wildfires" instead of "forest fires" and I think" Burt and lifeless branches" instead of "Black burnt" ... sounds more picturesque to me The last verse .... Masterstroke Poem 4. the only thing I'd slightly change here is the ending I'd put long since in a separate line to make the poem seem a little longer and show the length of this failed marriage
@lesliealcala32023 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if the “both” in the 5th line is necessary, I think the readers don’t need that to the see the correlation
@Rinirinirinirin3 жыл бұрын
I like your poems. I am a huge poetry lover and I've been writing myself for many years. Honestly, I have a weird relationship with English poetry (I mean in English), because in my native language poetry traditions are slightly different, and I mean the language sounds drastically different. Poetry is the kind of art that makes you feel the specific use of language with every inch of your body and soul; every word matters, it's the most concentrated literary form. I'm used to a more "technical" and academic English, so at times it is hard for me to perceive its creative forms. That being said, I really liked your poems. I think they are very emotionally powerful and the language flows just great. Well done and hope one day you will release your own book
@metaphorsunfurled3 жыл бұрын
What's your native language? cause even I feel a little less connected with English Poetry in it's creative forms. Not to say that it isn't beautiful, it's just that the language really makes a difference. When I read a Ghazal in Urdu it definitely has more impact on me.
@thelighthousez37183 жыл бұрын
@@metaphorsunfurled I feel the same way about Persian (middle eastern) poetry in general. I love them, they feel deeper and more.... intense. I feel like they deliver the message so beautifully. But english poetry doenst feel that way. It always feels too simple compared to middle eastern poetry (both could be very very beautiful). Maybe its bc we grew up with it so we resonate with it more.
@RosalindPeters3 жыл бұрын
That first poem, Rachel, love it - you could actually end the last couple of lines by carrying on the pattern, to tie it in more fully. ‘Is it really love / as I packed my bags / is it really / closed the door / is it? / walked away’ - something like that!
@hoyaticinspirit4eva5473 жыл бұрын
That's a wonderful idea!!
@sailorbun44573 жыл бұрын
Poem one: I like the idea of this poem and this is a personal preference, but I think really going more into one style of imagery does make the poem feel more cohesive. It seems like each stanza you use a different imagery theme which can work, but for this I think choosing one main image might help. I particularly like the wolfish aspect in the first stanza. I think going into like, you fear losing them and slowly you realize you’re in love with a wolf (metaphorically) is a cool idea. I do really like the stripped away aspect of it, as you slowly realize, it becomes less of a poem each stanza. Poem Two: I really like this one. I’m a huge fan of grosser, more gothic style imagery in poetry. I think only using longer lines make it more slow and drawling, maybe tru varying lines to play more with rhythm? Otherwise, your imagery is great in this one. Poem three: Nitpicky, but I think the world destructive is redundant, and really, the first line in general could be cut in my opinion.. I think opening with the mystery of what happened, and then bringing in the reflection of burnt trees and all that would be so powerful. I’m not a huge fan of some of the descriptions, like majestic bird and emerald green, something just sounds stilted and almost spoon fed to the reader. I like the idea a lot, starting with a barren landscape and moving towards beauty. Poem Four: Favorite poem by far. The imagery is much more concise and meaningful, paints the perfect scenery, I can feel the bleakness and the grime of it all. I think the only think I would change is not saying ‘she alone’ and just saying ‘she’ (nitpicky I know). But otherwise, I really love this one. OVERALL: I really like your poems, maybe experiment more. i think the foundation of the poems is really good, but some of your descriptions are a little basic and also feel very flowery and unneeded. But the talent is def there.
@lissq27693 жыл бұрын
Yeh the wolf idea is really interesting in terms of how it could imply transformation
@jeannedearbhail91373 жыл бұрын
Maybe instead of killing me slowly from the inside. You could change the imagery to "Tearing its way to my heart like a malicious stab" not really sure of the wording
@RosalindPeters3 жыл бұрын
Second poem: I love ‘stitches tumbling’ image especially. Could it finish with the consequences of the infection? Does it require amputation, some kind of intravenous medicine? Obvs the amputation could be a useful image for getting rid of a toxic ex... but maybe sounds a little too final; maybe you’re still left with phantom limb pain.... Maybe follow it and see where it goes? I agree the last line lacks punch. It could make a very cool sonnet. Also, if you’re talking about infidelity, I’d urge you not to waste the possibilities of ‘foreign bodies’...
@jscullane13 жыл бұрын
Rachel: My poetry is bad. Kyra: THEN PLAY BALL WITH ME INSTEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
@-gf-3 жыл бұрын
i don't know about the word tumble for the stitches in the second poem. putting stitches into things, they dont tumble. stitching requires weaving, requires sharp things, requires knots. thread to make stitches unwinds so it can be sewed. it unravels. thread is pulled. it is cut. it is stabbed. it may fall, slipping out of where it's meant to be as it takes a strange path to the ground, or to your lap. there is a precision to a stitch, or a certain disappointing chaos in even a messy one. messy, careless stitches slip, and knot, and tangle. they're uneven, and big. medical stitches especially, i feel require more structure and precision, and painful placement, than the word "tumble" grants them in this poem. a more precise word for the unhelpful mess he made could be of use, i think. anything can tumble from a person's lips. what does a stitch do? other than that, i quite like it. also i do think you could do a more creative last line. that poem has some wonderful, disgusting imagery. very physical. very medical. that tangibility should not be dropped at the last second. i dont know what being slowly killed feels like. its too broad to imagine. there needs to be a name to the feeling. where is the source of the death? where on the inside of your body is it radiating from? what do you consider slow? months? weeks? days? you don't need to put the actual unit in the poem of course, but i think you can get a bit more exact than slowly. i really like this poem. i would love to see kind of a side by side of it more free form similar to it now versus how it would function as a sonnet. it would make an amazing sonnet. but this structure also works so well.
@majahanrahan72243 жыл бұрын
That first poem gave me GOOSEBUMPS. It was... insanely beautiful. I’m not a poet so I don’t know how to critique it or if it even can be improved, but this humble, casual poetry reader ADORED IT!!! You were so brave to share this but I’m so so so glad you did
@fannypinka19733 жыл бұрын
Hi Rachel! Fellow poet here! I enjoyed the 4th poem the most. The rythm was good and the imagery was powerful. I would actually recommend that you expand it, tell us the rest of the story. Does the child feel responsible? Is there any recognition for cleaning up? I want to know more. As for the rest of them, I would like to see you show and not tell so much. I feel you overexplain the metaphors. ex. You were the fire... in poem #3. A bit too on the nose.
@lissq27693 жыл бұрын
I agree the 4th was my favourite too but personally I wouldn't make it longer (that's just my opinion though)
@Cdiazlovesmusic3 жыл бұрын
I absolutley loved the last poem about your family and your childhood, the imagery was so powerful and you achieved what you wanted to do which was make it as relatable to everyone as possible. I agree that people don't like to talk about their childhood traumas, so you sharing that with us was such a beautiful thing to hear and you could really see the thought and effort you put into that one. As for the other two they were much better than other poems that you have read on your channel, I just think that the category of "love" has been done so many times that they didn't cannect with me as much as other poems have. Overall I can really tell how much passion you have for poetry as a whole, and for that I commend you.
@rumaisakhan55833 жыл бұрын
Even your bad poems are better than my best ones so I WILL ALWAYS BE IMPRESSED BY YOUUUU!
@RosalindPeters3 жыл бұрын
Third poem - couple of words that could be more focused: “reflected” (I know it’s pedantic but reflection makes me think of water, the opposite vibe for what you’re going for! - maybe think about heat haze and how it can obscure vision, create mirages, maybe a mirror of heat haze showing you yourself, something like that?) I’d also consider changing “magenta” to scarlet or some other bright red, for the danger & fire undertones. Unless you’d like to keep it your old hair colour, obvs! I like the bruised bloody fingers! Maybe consider shifting ‘nourishment’ for ‘hydration’..? Tiny semantic shifts but might unlock some clearer imagery? 💕 Also, you def shouldn’t be nervous about these!
@WillowSong3 жыл бұрын
In the poem about the fire: these two lines have metaphors/similies that explain instead of show. "I saw myself reflected back..." "You were the fire that burnt through me..." I think you could push yourself to rewrite those with more direct imagery, trusting your audience to make that connection without it being obvious. Like, maybe in this forest devastated by a fire there is a mirror and you literally see your reflection, see your limbs smoldering, and then describe how the forest is not the same, and how you are not the same. I love the other lines!
@sky36703 жыл бұрын
Parts of your poems feel more like prose with heavy imagery. You could hone in on this by writing poetry in prose form, like Oscar Wilde sometimes did. For writing in verse, however, I’d recommend you be more open-ended and abstract with some of your language and metaphors. It almost feels like the story aspect of the poems is holding you back, so I’d say just let yourself be weird and focus more on the emotions than telling a cohesive narrative, because the reader can fill in gaps to make the poetry fit their own experiences. That’s why I feel that the last poem is the best. Anyways, I loved this video and hope to hear more poems from you in the future :)
@lornatw3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, appreciate this. Also kinda gives another level of respect to you 💕
@DanaM181293 жыл бұрын
I am writing really, really bad poetry but I wish I could show someone, so this way I could get better. You can be proud about sharing and also about your writing♡
@sklsdjf3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of my criticism is just a regurgitation of things I've seen other commenters already say, but to try to summarize my thoughts as a whole: 1) play with language and form more. one commenter said to show and not tell, and another said to not be afraid to get weird. I think a combination of those two pieces of advice would really work wonders. don't worry as much about your poem being cohesive or about the reader understanding the background of what's going on. instead, let the emotion of the words tell its own story and portray what you're feeling without it having to be spelled out directly to us. I agree with a lot of the other commenters that your fourth one is my favorite and the best example of this application. on a similar note, a lot of first-time poets feel like their poem has to have some clear and intended meaning or theme or story. that's not always the case (although there usually is at least some purpose, of course). try writing poetry just for the sake of language, just for the sake of the transformative process. it's not all about describing a feeling accurately, sometimes it's about taking something that has no accurate or defined meaning or description and creating one solely from the way the words feel to your ears and look to your eyes. throw together words that don't form a coherent thought but make you feel something when paired together. I think you definitely try at that in some parts, but I'd love to see an extension of it (or more defined application) rather than just peppering it in-between more clear-cut narration for the sake of "decorating" the piece. 2) commit to the idea/push further with your stylistic choices. in your third poem, the first stanza contains a lot of good alliteration that helps elevate the language from mere narration and description. phrases like "black burnt branches" draw the reader in, but then the excitement fizzles out in the following stanzas. there's less alliteration and technique, and the form gets somewhat repetitive and dull. it feels like a list of descriptive ideas that popped in your head, but weren't filtered through or picked apart to benefit the poem as both a concise and whole piece. 3) ask yourself if the poem has been done before/if what you're writing adds something new and unique to existing poetry. just because it applies to you and may be a good description of what you're feeling doesn't mean it's unique to you. the feelings you're experiencing have probably been felt (and subsequently described in poetic form) thousands of time before by thousands of different people, so writing poetry (for the purpose of being read) has to mean writing something different. obviously it's impossible to be completely original and unique, and obviously your poetry is always going to share some characteristics of others, but as a creative you have to strive to make a lasting mark in at least one small way or another. that's not to say you haven't done that, but I do think some of the poems here feel derivative, particularly the first one. that's a shame because it's one of the poems here that have a more unique and interesting attempt at form, but it's somewhat dulled by the predictability of the contents. that said, I think this one contains a lot of promising lines and the groundwork here is definitely something that is worth revisiting. a possible solution is to cut out the fluff and filler. in many instances, you don't need to say as much as you're saying to get the point across and less may actually be more when you're dealing with such common experiences and feelings. again, this is also where the "weirdness" can come in. rather than trying to relate something realistically or seriously, put your descriptions through a kaleidoscope and see what comes out. write them as if they were in a muddied pool with ripples blurring parts and moving them about. when reading poetry, we don't want to see detailed experiences verbatim in a clear mirror like we see them every day, we want to peak at something we think they may recognize but take a step back and see it as something totally distorted and unfamiliar (and therefore interesting). make the reader look longer, make them question things, make them stay and take their time piecing things together. that's what's fun, and ultimately where we find the most meaning and revelation. finally, even though you're very open and inviting of criticism, I know it can be frustrating to be told things you already know and I know a lot of what I've said are things you've probably already questioned in yourself and are already working on, so don't let the criticism bog you down. listen to your instinct, because I think you have a good grasp of what good poetry should be and where yours may fall short in some places. grab a hold of those things you really like in your poetry and find ways to expand upon that and include more of it so you're working from a constructive place rather than just seeing the whole as "not enough" or focusing too hard on the things you could be doing better. also know that not every piece of criticism is something that is right for you or should be followed necessarily. it's good to be open to criticism but you also have to have a strong enough voice in your style to know when to stand up for your own work and say no, I like what I've done there (at least in some places). so with everything that I've said, there's a caveat of *only if it doesn't go against your creative vision*
@maiarustad50623 жыл бұрын
I like the twist and story of your first poem a whole bunch. Absolutely, there are places where rhythm and pacing can be improved, but as far as the core concept, intent, and twist, I think you're golden. For your second poem, I do agree that the last line is a bit of a cliche, but I think to make it feel fresh all you'd really have to do would be swap out the word "killing" with another, more visceral synonym. "Rotting" was the first one that came to my head, but I think you use that word previously. So really, there are plenty of options, whatever feels right for you. Slowly leeching the last drops of blood from my veins, was another one that popped into my head. I ADORE the repetition of the "b" in two adjacent words in the last three lines of the first stanza. I do wish that was carried through an entire stanza, as it feels so clever but is undermined and made to seem almost accidental by the first two lines not following that pattern. Also, the "bugs and bees" line is good, but I think it needs to be tied to the metaphor a little tighter, something that applies to both the friends and the animals comment, something like "surrounded by life, involved in the multitude of conversations, willing to communicate within myself and with others" that's terrible and not poetic AT ALL, but hopefully you see my point. That last one, I have no notes, it hit me really hard. My environment growing up wasn't volatile or toxic, but as someone whose parents just recently divorced, after the months, years really, of all of us trying to pretend the cracks in their relationship weren't there, it hit hard.
@UltimateKyuubiFox3 жыл бұрын
In the first poem, the only thing I would change is removing a word. Take “breaking point” and leave it just as “breaking”.
@jonathanmoore12403 жыл бұрын
Hi Rachel! I loved all of the poems and, while I am by no means a poet, I do have a couple critiques for your first poem. 1) You seem to establish this pattern of starting your stanzas (after the question part) with I then You then I then You, but then you go off and start with “You” three times in a row. I think the pattern is really cool and demonstrates how disorienting and confusing it can be to be in a relationship like that, and how you never know whether to trust your side of the story or your partner’s. I think it would be a very easy fix, really keeping some more consistency and adding another layer of meaning to the poem. 2) The concept for this poem is amazing, but it just ends so abruptly (to me at least). I imagine getting out of that relationship was not as easy as simply packing up and walking away, so I think you could kill two birds with one stone and extend your theme of removing one word out just a little more. If the poem ended with: Is it really love? Is it really? Is it? I think it would help greatly is showing that you really had to overcome your own doubts and it was a journey to get out of this situation. Of course you could add some more lines in there like Is it really love? I ask myself, sobbing on the bathroom floor from another week of torture and regret Is it really? I ask myself, as I finally pick myself up, resolving to rid myself of you. Is it? I asked myself one last time, Packed my bags And walked away (I know I broke my first suggestion here but I really like the parallel structure and meaning behind only focusing on using I rather than you) Anyways sorry for the really long comment. Once again I loved all of the poems, and thanks so much for sharing them! I’d love to see more
@leandromonteiro94033 жыл бұрын
I spent around two or four years writing poems to get a poem that is Poetry. The fundamental elements That helped me to Poetry writing development were Reading the classics, Reading about Poetry structures and figuratives Language and, of course, to do and aply all this in the writing. Writing, rewriting until It is well formated.
@hellyF33 жыл бұрын
THATS SO GOOD RACHEL!! I loved the idea of the sentence disappearing, fantastic. Don’t be too harsh on yourself! I loved it
@jj-qr4ro3 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely blown away by this! You're such a great poet and I love to see how your mind works. Would love to see a part two
@iland38783 жыл бұрын
I took a poetry class in college last year, so I can try to give constructive feedback from what I've learned. Also I do the same thing with my poems by writing what I'm feeling first and then editing to make it translate better to other people. Here's my feedback: Poem 1 I loved the imagery and the alliterations you used throughout this poem. I loved the concept of taking one word off each start of the stanzas to change the context of the sentence, I thought those were really interesting techniques. The cracked egg shells in the third stanza could be replaced with something different, maybe? Maybe tie it in with the porcelain imagery somehow? Just to subvert the cliche , but I still think it works in the poem well. Overall I thought this was a genius idea, and I thought the idea of chipping away was really good! Poem 2 I liked how graphic this one was and how it made me uncomfortable. I think it really pushes the unsettled emotions well with graphic imagery, which unsettles the audience in the same way the narrator is unsettled and hurt by the toxic relationship. While the last line is a little cliche,I think the poem somewhat subverts it by elaborating what it means to be destroyed from the inside out. Also I think making it a sonnet would be really cool because sonnets are traditionally "love" poems and this one is a toxic love. Poem 3 I liked the alliterations with the b sound in the poem, and the nature imagery. I really liked the burnt trees and the comparison to fingers idea. I also think this poem is a good metaphor for growth. Like nature and the earth you are strong and resilient and can regrow where damage is done. My best friend was in a toxic narcissistic relationship not too long ago, but today she has grown and learned about what love really is and means. I believe in you and that you'll grow stronger too! Poem 4 I really liked this poem and how real it felt. I thought this one was really powerful especially with the different uses of sound and imagery and textures. I think adding different sensations other than just imagery is a good technique because it brings the audience into the scene I think it's hard to share things and talk about things that effected us as kids and try to grow from them especially when we don't realize how much they did effect us. And that's something I've struggled to do too, as well as a lot of people. I think it's a very relatable poem for many people. I hope this feedback was helpful! I love your content and poetry and I hope you have an awesome day 😎!
@JosyPoetry3 жыл бұрын
I'm an aspiring poet too so obviously anything I say is my humble opinion and is not necessarily worth anything. Concerning the second poem, I think the issue is that, even though obviously it is leagues better than Hailey's was, it still hinges on a single metaphor that isn't all that original: emotional pain as physical pain (and I think you're right, that last line does sound pretty cliché). It might be improved on by complexifying it a little, perhaps by exploring more that idea of affairs which 'foreign bodies' points to. ''The dirt and grime and foreign bodies / Where other hands have been and left their tracks'' .... Also, the end does fall into what you reproached Hailey with: you end up spelling out the metaphor when you say ''Our relationship rots like necrotic flesh''. So the last two weaker lines would benefit from being switched for something else. This is only a suggestion but after ''every inch of my brain'', I would go for ''If it does heal once more, scar upon scar, gnarled as an old tree / We will go on like this for a while / Limping discreetly, lopsided as ever / Hoping against hope that this last leg will take us somewhere.'' Obviously, do with this as you will but it's always fun to do a bit of brainstorming.
@lissq27693 жыл бұрын
Umm dude that suggestion you made is great
@JosyPoetry3 жыл бұрын
@@lissq2769 Thank you! ;)
@taliam17393 жыл бұрын
I am so moved and in love with the last poem you shared. I really felt like I was there when you were reading it. Please share more in future videos! I love hearing what you've created. So inspiring!!
@emabolt79953 жыл бұрын
I've only watched your intro and idk if you'll see this but I really wanted to say that YOU ARE A POET. You said something like, 'I'm just a poetry lover' but that, miss, is wrong. I'm a creative writing student and the first thing they always tell us: if you write you are an author. Period. It may take a while to write real good, and it's crucial to know your weaknesses and be critical, but as long as you write poetry you are a poet. (Not to say that the peeps who publish rubbish are good poets and I don't think they should be published.) Using language like that is super affirming and in my experience, it has made me so much more confident in my abilities and encouraged me to take myself more seriously. YOU ARE A POET WOMAN.
@crissyphoenix45943 жыл бұрын
I'm sure this will be amazing to read - I'm so excited for it! Thank you.
@lisooman24003 жыл бұрын
I like both your poems and the one you were inspired by for example Gum Trees. I liked your descriptions better but also I think I prefer the form where the meaning of the metaphor is added at the end like the "I can start over after you" line. Before it I could only wonder what the imagery means. I think the main problem with your poetry is actually outside of poetry because I would rather have explored the meanings of your poems on my own but you explained what they mean right after them. I didn't have time to find my own meaning in them but I also get that you probably didn't wanna be misunderstood as this is the first time you're sharing your work for real. Proud of you
@imbluedubbadee3 жыл бұрын
I think your first poem was beautiful, and it actually made me tear up a little I wanted to mention, that part in the 2nd one you were worried about, "killing me slowly from the inside" Maybe you could use mention of what's happening to your body through that if that makes sense? Like what happens to a dying body, organs failing, your brain shutting down. I'm not a doctor or coroner, so I don't really know, but I just had the thought and hoped it might inspire something useful x
@sugarcakezz3 жыл бұрын
you’re definitely a subconscious type writer and when you write from emotions it’s raw and relatable for those who’ve been through it. i will say i adore you’re poetry because it speaks to me
@mw96883 жыл бұрын
Is it weird if I mostly use your videos as background noise? Like, I pay attention but sometimes I just use these along with the occasional audiobook. Seriously, you could read the back of a shampoo bottle and it would be relaxing and help me focus on the task at hand. I know its just talking but I do everything from fixing vehicles to filling out tedious paperwork with your videos playing. Its a relaxing voice and it catches my mind and doesn't let me wander into rabbit holes, I get distracted a lot. haha, genuinely.....thank you for rambling. It is a big help for me. If you ever want to read a really really long book then let me know, maybe something spooky or even a dictionary. Keep the videos coming.
@emilyg15623 жыл бұрын
I bet it isn’t!
@ahttacca3 жыл бұрын
i don’t have anything to add except to comment that i loved the “she, alone, picks up the pieces of a marriage, long since cold” because it was the only relatable one to me. i think my writing loves to have ending lines that punch you in the throat that way, so i soared when i read this from you. it truly puts bella thorne entire writing career to shame. but know you’re really inspiring as a person already, the poetic persona is just a bonus. i’m glad you’re ok 😊
@MelissaTreglia3 жыл бұрын
You asked for comments, so I hope my thoughts here (as a fellow writer) are helpful to you. It's just some little notions of what you can do to improve your poem drafts and, of course, you can take whatever of my advice suits you best. But know that I just want you to be able to write the stories *you* want to tell (as poetry or otherwise), as best you can. :) So, onto my thoughts... POEM ONE: This is a solid draft, but it definitely falls into the amateur mistake of storytelling: it tells the reader what they *should* be seeing in the moment, rather than presenting the images and letting the reader put the pieces together for themselves. And I agree with another person here who said that the final bit didn't have a strong finale. The piece doesn't seem to end, but instead just... kinda stops. On a rewrite, I might go with something a bit stronger, building up the tension in every line, and ending with a simple understated line as a sort of final punch to the gut. Perhaps, something like: "Is it really love? I wonder, heart pounding in my chest through shaky breath. Hands tremble as I pack my bags; weight lifting, shifting on my shoulders, And the door clicks shut behind me." Granted, my off-the-cuff notion here is a tad more prose-y than poetry, but... the general idea is there, and it's based on what you've written in your draft. Just focus on the rule of "show, don't tell", and it'll shake out into a much richer piece. POEM TWO: I would recommend re-reading Shakespeare's Sonnet 147 ("My love is as a fever, longing still / For that which longer nurseth the disease...") to get a sense of how it could work, both as a sonnet and with the topic of an unhealthy relationship imagined as a terrible illness. And, yeah, the "killing me slowly from the inside out" line is definitely cliché, so I'd go with a visual that implies dying/death with the "disgusting" sense that you wanted to convey, perhaps something like: "And as this fever clings to my blackened and festering skin, I choke on my own blood as your lies stab each artery." Basically, taking the clichés of "you're killing me" and "you're breaking my heart" and twisting them into something far more visceral. So yeah, for this one? If you've got shocking imagery in mind, don't pull your punches -- take it as far as it can go, and own the hell out of it. Some readers might react with disgust, but the ones you want to stick around will appreciate that you were ballsy enough to really go there... and it'll be a more satisfying read, for those who can stomach it. POEM THREE: There's the same problem here as in the previous two; you're pulling your punches, and telling rather than showing. For an example specific to this one, instead of the vague line "And now they're all gone" you could instead try punching up the imagery with something like: "And now white, brittle bones are all that remain." So there's now a question in the reader's mind: Is this land you're describing truly destroyed and empty? That way, when you get to the stanza of life renewing, the reader *feels* it and breathes a sigh of relief that, no, the earth is not barren. There *is* life here. POEM FOUR: This is actually very good as a late-stage draft. I'd recommend setting it aside and trying not to look at or think about it for awhile (like, at least a month), so you can go back to it later and look at it again with fresh eyes. Once you do, then you might be able to see where the remaining problems lie. The issue with this poem that immediately stands out to me is its ending; it's, yes, another telling-not-showing bit. Instead of having "She alone picks up the pieces of a marriage, long since cold", you could replace that too-literal bit with a shattered plate, perhaps? Or something similarly damaged, that illustrates the brokenness of the marriage? Like, for example: "The little girl picks up The shards of the fallen crockery That her mother was given On that long-forgotten wedding day." Because weddings are generally happy affairs. Stressful? Sure, but usually very happy. So, the happiness of that day is now "forgotten" and a wedding gift is now ruined beyond repair... appropriate symbols of a thoroughly miserable marriage. And the child is left to pick up the pieces, risking harm to herself in the process (something no child should be responsible for, ever). Also, if you want, adding the image of the cracked window in the cold (and maybe dark?) bedroom would really punch this up too (when you mentioned it during the discussion part, the mental image of that window really stuck in my head). These are just my thoughts, of course. I hope I was able to help you out, in some small way. Good luck on your writing! :)
@animehearthd54693 жыл бұрын
Very nice analysis!
@stephenwalker29243 жыл бұрын
Great analysis!
@nadialakeclement94753 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh! So lovely to hear some of your own poetry! Poem 4 was my favorite - it was the most visceral, and I think this was partly because the language was the least flowery and least descriptive of the poems you shared. I feel like this helped get the emotion across more clearly. Sometimes I think simple is better when it comes to poetry - too many adjectives can make it sound amateurish at times. Anyway, thank you so much for sharing! I admire your courage to put your own work out there for others to critique!
@fernwitchofthedarkcastle3 жыл бұрын
In the third poem, I think “I see myself in the” instead of “I see myself reflected in the” could be good! It is a bit less hand holding, and takes the reader’s eye directly to the scene, to explore what it is for themselves.
@aaverycahill91203 жыл бұрын
big respect to you for putting yourself out there like this. it was clear how uncomfortable you were at first and I applaud you for pushing through and committing to such a scary and vulnerable thing. you've got a great attitude about criticism, and how if you're giving it, you should be open to receiving it about your own work. I really appreciate this video :)
@harrywater4563 жыл бұрын
As a nervous poet myself, I wanted to quickly say that this is *insanely* brave to put yourself in the open like this! I should probably leave something more substantive here, but you’re your own worst critic, so take a bit of love and appreciation here lol ✉️ 💨 ❤️ (And I would love to hear more of your writing)
@practicallywitches3 жыл бұрын
you sharing your art and having such an open dialogue is so helpful as someone who is new to poetry! even reading through a few comments has taught me something new
@MagicDemonCookies3 жыл бұрын
I love these! Add some titles to them though you can pack so much punch with a good title. Really nice job putting yourself out there it’s so scary!
@kittysparkleeyes3 жыл бұрын
Your first poem really hit me as it could describe perfectly my last 3 relationships. My exes never hit me, but they never needed to. The manipulation, gaslighting and infidelities were enough. No, they never loved me. The "pushing through paper thin boundaries" really sums it up.. intense fear of rejection and being left makes me extremely vulnerable to abusive , narcissistic partners. Over and over and over.
@RosalindPeters3 жыл бұрын
Omg the fourth one!! Ooooft! The only thing I’d change is the ‘loud silence’ image as it’s a little cliched IMO. But the rest? The internal rhyme? The consistent imagery? LOVE.
@BethaneyLilly3 жыл бұрын
Love the 4th one! You’ve Captured the scene so vividly. I’m a poetry reader and lover. I’ve only just started to become interested in the technical structure after watching your videos. Poetry has (for me) always been more about strong feelings and the emotions invoked, it’s a personal connection and those shared experiences & vulnerabilities.
@klinky203 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate how open and vulnerable you are in this video and the poems you read. I love so many of your videos but I think this became my favorite.
@PeoplecallmeLucifer3 жыл бұрын
well I hope you see this Rachel .. this is the poem I was talking about _ **\Feather of glass/** We just kept watching. Like many a time before. As the flame kept twitching, And my eyes grew sore. And then, Silence, Disbelief, Horror. We stood in front of the ash pile for hours. Night turned to day and night once again. And under the palest of moons came the glistening rain. I was the first one to move, to dig through the pile of ash. There was nothing left behind, But a feather that shines like glass So that’s the last trace of the phoenix The only goodbye we get A regular pile of ash And a feather I wear in my hat _ AS I said it's a part of a fantasy world building series I'm working on
@lil_weasel2193 жыл бұрын
First to say that Im not a critiquer at all , just saying the impression. Ive written 5 poems in total. In a year. So a lot of the parts sounds a bit like a story rather than poem.Like a combination of both. beyond the first two paragraphs. I would for example put sonething like the first one to move to dig through the ashen pile Nothing left behind but a feather yadada I wouldve built it differently personally. Please dont take this too seriously and just continue working Integrate any parts you may like here Im not a "critiquer" and nor are most folk here
@PeoplecallmeLucifer3 жыл бұрын
@@lil_weasel219 hey no worries. I appreciate the feedback.
@TejashreeMurugan3 жыл бұрын
I loved everything except for the last line. It felt a bit out of place. But the rest is amazing! (i'm in no way an expert, this is just my opinion)
@PeoplecallmeLucifer3 жыл бұрын
@@TejashreeMurugan fair enough ... I appreciate the feedback
@cat_strangler26033 жыл бұрын
Your poetry is amazing 🙄
@PeaceStandsxo3 жыл бұрын
Woah, it takes a lot of courage to share your poetry like this! I respect you for it
@kyleredford17723 жыл бұрын
Damn I never thought of using music as inspiration for poetry ( always looked at it the other way round ) well done . Hope things are getting better 😎👍
@kyleredford17723 жыл бұрын
Also: some of this was hard to hear.... and not get angry ... but such is life and inspiration.
@lissq27693 жыл бұрын
Something I do when I feel like something is a bit cliché (like you said about 'killing me slowly from the inside out') is take that idea but try and think of other language that is maybe more interesting and specific to the piece. So maybe 'killing' becomes 'devouring' or something like that, it does the same job but it contains more in it (for me it's more violent/vivid, implies you're becoming empty or a shell, maybe links to sxual violence and objectification). Anyway that's something I try and do :) As others have said, the 3rd one I feel has quite a lot of explanation/telling. How could you combine lines/what could you leave out? Could it just be an extended metaphor and completely leave out mentions of I/you? Edit: wow, the 4th one was amazing. It's so emotive and I feel you have a good mix of storytelling and imagery (I feel like sometimes amateur poets can put too much imagery in if that makes sense? Like not everything has to be a metaphor/simile in my opinion and sometimes it's more effective to let the ones you have breathe)
@Cat-rr3ey3 жыл бұрын
Rachel please do more reading your own poetry videos. These thirty minutes isn't enough for my poetry needs!!
@emilywilson78863 жыл бұрын
i really really loved this video! your poems make me feel less alone, i’m very excited to read more of your work in the future!
@Alice-gy4yv3 жыл бұрын
Firstly, I really enjoyed the first poem I thought the concept and structure was very clever, and I found it very touching and I even teared up a little. For the 2nd poem there was something I couldn't get past, which was how visceral some of the imagery in it was and how well it could relate to relationships but yet they weren't expanded on or 'fleshed' out, and only briefly mentioned with things like plasters or stitches. I was so stuck on the imagery of plasters that I wrote my own poem inspired by it. Now I don't write poems but this came to me as I was walking my dog and so I had to write it down. I want to emphasize that I do not write poems but I want to thank Rachel for inspiring me to give this a go. the plaster you placed on my knee keeps tugging at my skin, and pealing off throughout the day and just not hanging in... the grey unslightly residue is making bacteria permeate through, into my body i feel it seeping the wound you made is just not healing, in fact it just keeps getting worse what made you think a plaster would work? On the wound you made that just keeps growing youve tried to hide it but its clearly showing since the bloods not showing any sign of slowing and the pus thats formed is overflowing... "i have no way of knowing why you wont stop going and going i did enough its your fault now must be something you did but anyhow, clear up this mess i had enough, the blood you made is fucking up my stuff".
@AriaLouisa3 жыл бұрын
When you finished reading the last line of your first poem I got chills all over my body. I’m a literature student; my expertise was never poetry. However, I think there is really no reason at all to doubt yourself so much. I think the way you repeat and alter that one line is incredibly clever and powerful, and combined with the subject I really felt its impact on me. I’ll continue watching now, but I just want to say that I think you definitely have a talent for this.
@ThomasZ1003 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the honesty, the vulnerability, and the fearlessness shown here. It helps me to better understand the reasons behind my own recent writing. So thank you.
@scarletstarlet7733 жыл бұрын
Okay so I really loved the narrative you've made for poem one, i feel like it's good for making people know what it's like to be in a toxic relationship. The thing with removing the words from the lines is really clever and helps the story too. Poem 2 is impressive to me as i'm not able to write graphic images in my own poetry, but you've done it really well, i also agree on the last line, you definitely can improve it to be more interesting, especially since it's the last line of the poem. The idea to make it into a sonnet is great and i reccomend it as a form of revision - i often rewrite the poem in a different form in another draft as an experiment and a writing excersise and it can really give you some fantastic ideas. However, if you do it, keep the current draft to see if you like it better than the sonnet form. If you make it into a sonnet, please, remember about the turn that's supposed to happen in sonnets. It can make a poem really interesting. Poem 3 seemed like the weakest one for me, i like the image, and it's wonderful that you can take someone's work and relate to it on such a personal level (to me it's what's wonderful about art) but i don't see any new ideas besides your personal story being brought into it, causing the image to sorta fall flat. However, it's still not a bad poem. Poem 4 i think could be improved a bit with experimenting with stanza breaks. It was really moving, too. Overall, i like the way you construct metaphors (especially in the poems 1 and 2) and it's really great that you seem to know pretty well where you need to improve - i feel like it's thanks to the fact that you read a lot of poetry. Other thing you could also consider is titles - they often can add another layers of meaning to a poem. I would also like to see you writing on a wider variety of topics. Overall, well done, and it really shows that you put work into them.
@namyajha4823 жыл бұрын
I'm through the second poem at this point, and one thing that I've often felt while writing is to just read the poem or whatever it is that you have written, after a pause, maybe a couple of weeks after, when you can dissociate yourself from the poem a lil bit and look at the impact it creates. The second one nailed it. The impact you create through the graphic imagery, the metaphor, and the nastiness of the wound bringing out the disgust of the relationship, spot on. And that's what you have to keep searching for in the other poems as well, the way it will hit someone, but on deeper analysis too, will still reveal layers and complexity. The fourth poem was honestly really well written too, the rhythm, the delivery, the pacing, and the ending. You perfected it. Goes on to show that in spite of it being the oldest of your poems and having gone through so many redrafts, you can still nail the essence of your feeling if you are attempting to be your most vulnerable. Addition to this, I think, what one can do is not forget that the distance between what your taste is in art, and your creation itself, can be bridged by working on it, working on building your flow, and being vulnerable to the very core. But, it will happen, soon enough. Do not worry about the quality of the poem as much as you ought to worry about the feelings of it all. I know you said that you have often written for yourself, and now you want to be able to cater to your readers, but poetry is just a reader being profoundly intimate with the writer, and vice versa. So, all you can do is sit with your feelings, and the flow will happen. I hope I'm being constructive in all this, you are doing way way better than most of us just typing away at the screen from the other end can, and I really cannot wait to read your book. So much love.
@lauda69453 жыл бұрын
Here are some notes I took while listening. Adore your content. Brings me out of the hard and sad I am in right now and helps me feel like a little kid who just loves poetry again while my current self is also heard and recognized. Thank you for what you do. I think you should totally publish a poetry book someday! I am working on one myself but I need more critiques on my poems lol Help anyone?? 1. Oh my word Rachel. Your first poem hit me so hard when you said is it really love if you dont fear? threw me into the position. It was vivid from there. amazing. very good pacing. I wished you had added more things like the click cling click of my claws part because it really makes it sound like terror. 2. I do think putting this into a more traditional style and maybe cleaning the rythmn a bit to make it feel more quick and painful like a wound and then festering more at the end would make it feel more striking because this one doesnt strike me as much as the first one. I get what you are saying in the video but I think the narrative you are telling could be interpreted to mean that the wound is what killed rather than how painful the additional false apology is which seems to be the focus of the concept of the poem in my eyes. If you focus the narrative as I mentioned above it could make it instead to where the narrative shows that when you wound someone if you dont really try to fix it, if you dont treat it as the wound it is eventually broken bonds are totally unmendable because sometimes bonds can be repaired but not when done that way. 3. I feel my experiences in your third poem and it was nice to get that seed metaphor as the survivor in the end. it kinda shocked some hope into me. Id really like to see the process of losing expanded on and bring the emotions of losing the real life things you mentioned. It will avoid telling what you mean but make the reader FEEL what you mean because until you said I didnt understand fully the depth of those lines. I just thought that it was generally loss of life and wellbeing and nourishment and so I think digging into those loss experiences and how quickly or slowly they each happened or how he slowly stole them could really help I think. 4. I have also felt intense shame at feeling literally ANY emotion different from those I love. It is a very mundane but sad and painful vignette. In fact now I want to create little poem vignettes of my life because people try to tell me I didnt see, but I DID SEE and I DID FEEL IT too. I should tell the stories in all their little fragmented pieces as they come to me and remind me of their existence. good bad and life transforming all together in between a single cover. I wish for a place of my own as well and cannot wait to have the money to move away and find my place. Thank you for being you. I like being able to see another perspective of a wonderful and powerful woman
@carlakonstand-dalebout12293 жыл бұрын
RACHELLLL I hope you're doing better now! sending all my love towards you. I kinda also want to give you an video suggestion, my favourite singer/ artist Halsey released her own collection of poetry back in October and I was wondering if you would want to make a video on her poetry? Its called I would leave me if I Could.
@samhubenet34553 жыл бұрын
First poem: I absolutely adored it, I honestly didn't have any notes until you mentioned the chunkiness and I went back, I think shortening the last line of the first stanza would help honestly... or maybe changing it to something different and a little shorter?That scene reminds me of a past relationship and whenever he would cheat and I would stay I found myself almost trying to keep up appearances? I don't know I'd like something like that personally, especially with the later phrase "porcelain dreams" because that to me reads as someone who had hopes and ambition, and wouldn't want to admit that the relationship isn't love, which in my experience takes quite a bit of coverup... But besides that, I absolutely love the concept of taking that first line and shortening it, I found myself hearing the first line of each stanza and wondering what context you would give for each line and each time it was wonderful. Second poem: I do agree that the last line seems a bit cliche and I feel like the word killing is so tame and unsubstantial compared to words like rots and necrotic in the previous line. Honestly I would try looking into worst possible cases of an infected wound going untreated and see if any particular descriptions stick out to you. Actually I found the term anhedonia (the inability to feel pleasure) reading random WebMD stuff and I cannot wait to find the opportunity to use it. I adore the rest of the poem but I also think it could be an awesome sonnet, just again I feel like "killing" is a little bland of a word by comparison. Third Poem: I don't really like the first line, I don't know it could just be me but I think its a bit bland and I almost wish instead of telling us it was a destructive forest fire give us a small glimpse of the fire, like "in the aftermath of [the awful shit you did, but as a metaphor]" and then let the scorched trees and barren earth tell us about the forest destruction. Same-ish with the first line of the third stanza, I just find it a little ehh, I thought about the line "you lit the match I thought would consume me" or some version of that, especially because that line is the start of the transition from talking about the damage to new seeds, with the key word thought lol. But, as with all the other poems you shared, I absolutely love it and the metaphor of the forest fire and how you placed yourself in the fire and immediate aftermath. I also really love the last line of the poem, I feel like it's the perfect "F U I'm better without you" line lol. Fourth Poem: I honestly don't know what I can critique, I honestly love the poem the way it is, I really like the shorter lines near the end of the poem because I feel like those lines really give a sense of reality sinking in and time slowing.. Also please please please share more of your poems!!!
@angelathemoment3 жыл бұрын
Second poem I think it would sound better as a sonet because the rhythm scheme would allow the p sounds to come across stronger as you read. Also, about the last line, you could change it for: devouring (me) from the inside. As a med student, I loved the unapologetic "graphicness" of this one. I really like all the poems and have nothing to add to the other ones. I would love more videos like this one, keep it up!
@alicebPJ3 жыл бұрын
First of all, the strength you show in being vulnerable about your own life experiences like this is inspiring. I don't think I could speak about certain things out loud like you do. However, this only gives them more power over us, so I admire you. Secondly, the fourth poem genuinely made me tear up. I felt the child's confusion, loneliness, helplessness and pain in those lines. I wouldn't change a single thing. Only remark I feel like making, and I believe someone else mentioned it: the last stanza in the first poem, while I understand you not wanting to use metaphors to just describe reality as it is (packing the bags and leaving) might be more powerful if it was shorter than that, with a final clear-cut phrase like the very decision of leaving that you're finally making... something that punches the reader in the gut with the same realization you had. Something along the lines of Is it love...? I say, As I say goodbye. Other then that, I am glad you made this video. I have been reading The Ode Less Traveled because of you suggesting it and it was just wonderful to find your channel.
@marina85413 жыл бұрын
in the middle of catching up with all your videos i missed but i have to stop myself and point out at 2:00 just made my 2021. she is too cute. ok back to the video
@hannahlanai3 жыл бұрын
This is so brave. I really think that there's an element of baring your soul when you write poetry, especially poetry from the heart. I could never bare my soul in front of 200k people. Go you
@sidous4713 жыл бұрын
I never liked LEARNING poetry in school so I can't say anything......... But I love your hair ^_^
@cmk83622 жыл бұрын
big love and respect for you making yourself so vulnerable here. thank you so much for this
@MattGleason13 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of offering written critiques for people? One of my favorite poets (Stoker Award winner) does this.I’ve sent her a few things and got a lot out of the experience. Was worth the money to me. I think you’d be awesome at it... if it interests you of course.
@PrincessOverDoesIt3 жыл бұрын
Take my comment with a grain of the smallest salt, I agree with your own critique. In an effort to remove the personal, yet keep the narrative, could the poem be switched from the 1st person to a more objective 3rd, keeping the descriptions so anyone could set themselves in the situation. So proud of you for posting this - I bet this is petrifying - but from this point of view - inspiring! 😊
@PrincessOverDoesIt3 жыл бұрын
Something about the word “clipped” doesn’t seem right - I love the alliteration, but “clipped” doesn’t seem to fit with the feeling in the early stanzas? Clasped? Idk. Last comment on that poem - I do think the stripping of the stanzas is great - I’m excited to see where you will take this. 🧚🏻♀️❤️
@posergrave3 жыл бұрын
I really loved the last one! Although I didn't experience that personally, I feel like I got a really clear picture of what that was like
@silviaov6333 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to see you like this, I hope you are safe and good. ❤❤❤
@WilliamsWorldView3 жыл бұрын
You've covered some terrible poetry. I'd like to know your thoughts on the poem that was read at the Biden inauguration
@giosueagius70033 жыл бұрын
Videos like these help me understand myself and give me more courage. I got severe anxiety as I was trying to enter these poetry competitions when I was younger and that has stuck with me. I've studied poetry a lot, at first I wrote some horrible poems and with time I improved a lot. The trouble is I ended up emulating a very traditional style of poetry which modern eyes will deem as outdated. I literally do not know how to make my poetry ''Not Rhyme'' and all my descriptions and choice of words is just a load full of archaic diction. Secondly I don't plan my poetry before hand, it's just my style of writing to write in a jeu d'esprit, I simply see somethng that inspires me, and anything that comes to my brain I just find a nice tune of stressed and unstressed words and jot down whatever comes to mind while quickly coming up with rhymes, anything which takes me longer than 10 minutes will be thrown in the dustbin because it probably would suck. The truth of the matter is, I find miltonic blank verse and free verse as more restricting than for example say a heroic couplet (This is just me). In a world where my poetry is considered old in the eyes of many its just unintelligible and bad poetry. To end this elegy, I would like to congratulate you on poem 4, it was truly amazing writing.
@l.10203 жыл бұрын
Maybe every time you film a video Kayra just thinks you’re talking to her :)
@JoshFingerhut3 жыл бұрын
I decided to take a stab at re-working Poem 2 as a sonnet. Not sure if that counts as feedback, but here goes: Your kind apology, like mother’s kiss upon a child’s skinned knee, sweetly soothes. A poultice tumbles from your lips and smooths my ragged flesh. My bitter tears dismiss. Your smile says it’s all so silly, this - my pain is but a passing prank of youth’s proclivity to hide life’s pretty truths: that with you, all is well, and all is bliss. But grime you stitch within your soiled gauze engorges pores with putrid pus and ooze. Your fabrications sewn upon me cause disease as ulcer after ulcer spews. I see, as gangrenous implosion draws, in keeping you, I shall my own self lose.
@teagannam3 жыл бұрын
I think your poetry is really promising, but you should allow yourself more freedom in your metaphors! :) This may be a personal preference, but my favorite part of poetry is that dreamlike feeling you get from lots of metaphors with unexpected or mundane imagery. I think many people find metaphors in lots of random places; what makes you a poet is hanging on to all of those ideas, even if they may be weird. Put a variety of imagery in your poems, forget writing a “normal” poem and have just fun with it! :D
@bethany54563 жыл бұрын
I think your poems have so much potential, a little bit more workshopping to just clean them and I'd be happy to buy them. Techniques are very well used throughout - the modifiers, the imagery, the use of plosive/fricatives/soft sounds etc. that emphasise your themes. You really have a knack for telling stories in your poems - you've got some amazing lines. One thing I'd encourage is playing with structure. Like in that very first poem, you could have different margins for lines to reinforce the idea you're being strung along: we go where you take us, it's very manipulate which is one of the themes in the poem. That's just one example, I obvs can't comment on everything but if you ever wanted in depth feedback, I'd be more than happy to. I'm a Creative Writing student at university so I'm trying to put that to good use ahaha! As I say, little tweaks here and there (which you seem conscious of) and you've got some fab pieces of work!
@A88-p5e3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the 2nd poem - I definitely think it could still use some work as it starts out perfect imo (wouldn't change any of that part) but the part after "like nothing ever happened" where the poem changes to be about the "inside", I felt that it lost a bit of its impact. Especially "our relationship rots like necrotic flesh" and "already infected by your lies" I think are telling too much rather than showing as was done so well in the first half and do make it sound a bit cliche, as with the final line. I honestly don't even think the poem needs the part after "like nothing ever happened". Perhaps you can find another way to imply the wound is still rotting inside in just a single line after that. Personally, I think that would have more impact but I can see why you might want to keep what you've written and fix it up instead 😅 I am not an expert by any means though!
@claracalhoun50413 жыл бұрын
I know this should be the norm, but Rachel the level of maturity in this video is astonishing, especially when you compare it to how someone like Gabbie Hanna reacts to criticism (tHeSe aRe HigH sCHooL buLLieS, i aM tHe f*CkiNg viCtiM, etc.). Really blown away by this. I've think I subbed probably almost year ago, so I know very well that you are very mature for your age, but like even so you are just such a vast exception from pretty much everyone on the internet. Thanks my guy this was a fun video haha~
@madicinnamon73313 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! I'm very new to the world of poetry (a slow progression from your gabbie hanna videos to actually learning how it works and attempting it myself), so I don't have much to offer as far as constructive criticism, but it was wonderful to see some of your own work. My personal favorite is the one with the bushfire analogy, and I appreciate your vulnerability and your desire to improve! Also, it's really useful for me as a newbie to hear your explanations of your own work in terms of word choice, phrasing, structure, etc. I have a bit of a hard time discerning whether something is intentional in other people's poems -- or any art form, really -- so the breakdowns help!
@l.10203 жыл бұрын
I think that your poems sound really rich. Like the way you read them and the strong words you are using just create a beautiful message with empowering images. I really enjoyed them and I’m happy you stepped out of you comfort zone (?) and shared your poetry❤️
@theooooooooo33 жыл бұрын
Hi Rachel! I know this is slightly off topic, but if you see this, i was wondering if you would consider doing a video reading/reacting to your fans’ favorite poems? you could make a community post or something for us to send them to you, and it’s a win-win situation because both your viewers and you get to hear amazing new poetry:)
@RachelOates3 жыл бұрын
Check out the Fresh Poets Society videos! I usually have a forum but I’m having tech issues with the website at the moment, sorry!
@theooooooooo33 жыл бұрын
@@RachelOates Thank you!😊
@littleanimatedme7883 жыл бұрын
Overall, I think these poems are very good 👍 I can tell you put a lot of thought into them and that you're looking to take them to the next level😌 One criticism I have is that I think there's a little too much telling in the last stanza of the 3rd poem with the fire germinated seeds. I think that can be implied instead of told. The fourth poem is the strongest in my opinion because it has the strongest imagery & really sticks in your mind. If you want to try to revise these, 2 of my favorite revision techniques are: 1. printing out a poem and cutting the lines individually and rearranging them 2. Making a list of verbs that relate to an activity that works with a theme you're going for, then replacing each verb in the poem with one from the list I really enjoy your work and I look forward to your next video😊