Racing Games - A good way to setup cars

[@thurABCDEF]

that GT2 music on ProjectCars setup literally bug my brain nice video ! BR

[@colinleder5683]

Didn't know it was from GT2 but immediately l was like "that sounds old school". love it

[@treerexaudi]

it isn't easy unless you know what you're doing of course

[@santiagoibarra1137]

I think it is from South City menu

[@sureascanbe]

all the ps1 and 2 demo music, literally killing me with nostalgia great vid as always for a novice like me

[@davelister1893]

I still have those discs, I want to hug them right now!

[@protalukoriginal4560]

Whats the demo disc name? 0:50

[@NicolasSilvaVasault]

i'm getting into simulators, but i feel like shit when i get into the setup tab and know shit what's going on, even tho i want to be a hardcore sim racer, in order to be like that, i must learn what to do with each setup for each vehicle, what suit best, what not, etc. thanks for this video, it is exactly what i was waiting for

[@JuiceyBeverage]

It's been like 3 years dude hope you improved

[@omegalegendary4072]

Me reacting to this video *i'm still* Me: what is B? Viper: be prepared Me:oh The first O is observation? Viper: Observation Me: KNEW IT

[@davidmann1871]

Wow, you changed that Lancia from being undrivable into a beautiful four wheel drifter! It looks like a lot of fun to drive after improving the setup!

[@BlitzkriegRap]

Nice look on the Stratos!

[@Pdor_figlio_di_Kmer]

I followed all four tutorials and I may now have a clearer idea on how to prepare my cars to run on the dirt and potholes of the tracks I use (I'm almost exclusively a rally driver, the few track games I use are almost totally arcade and run on a smartphone, I'll omit the names of the games, you can guess on your own), but a thing you didn't talk about was how to prepare those variables above based on the wheel base of he car as well. I'm sure almost EVERYONE who has tried the mini on DiRT 2.0 will have boggled on how such a FWD, left at the standard set-up, behaves at times almost like a Porche, with close to no stability and that sometimes oversteers ON ACCELERATION (and though I reckon a driving wheel would help the control, I have no space at all to position it. It would help me NOTHING having to put it on my knees trying to balance it and the pedal board while driving, though I believe it'd be funny as hell to watch me trying. I have to make due with a joypad). Tried already some changes on the config of the cars, but these freshly new notions will surely help me more. Thanks a lot. 👍

[@coumankiptchak1929]

The playstation 2 demo music ! Man im overwhelmed with nostalgia ! And such a well explained video ! Thumbs up !

[@pincionano]

Since I bought PC2 that’s my problem, the right set-up. I’m still working on it but these video helps a lot. Also the engine break in some car is a pain. Sure I do have to improve my drive style but some cars are really difficult and need some adjustments... thank u Viper!

[@mikeellisonhimself]

Stratos thumbnail - best way to catch my attention!

[@wollensokje1112]

@4:00 What is the second way to test the car, number 1 and 2 are the same to me :P

[@nathanm3773]

I think in the first way, the main goal is trying to avoid spinning wheels while cornering, and the second way is like "drifting" forcing the car to observe the reactions.

[@lucatarolli7950]

In the first case you actually try to be as fast as possible without doing mistakes. In the second way you say: "oh, i've done a mistake: lets tweak the car to avoid that"

[@treerexaudi]

interesting

[@MmpM123YT]

its a joke and some people didnt realise it

[@noturbrother]

r/woooosh

[@kwakhru435]

Thanks i watched all of your setup videos and this was the most detailed one :)

[@TleafarafaelT]

Dont Forget to put a longer ratio in case of races with so much slipstream to take

[@Weird_Cat_Thingy]

Kinda like how I was slower than other ai cars in assetto corsa because I ignored the setup screen

[@not_herobrine3752]

@@Weird_Cat_Thingy ah yes, thanks for solving the mystery of why i always lose against the easiest ai in that game for me

[@Housesider]

@@not_herobrine3752 I remember doing the first career race and essentially coming in at the end of the pack at the finish. Then I realized that by default, the car's traction control setting was maxed out, which ruined my car's speed and acceleration. Disabled it and got first on the next try lol

[@MiguelMedV]

*...WoW...just, WOW!* What a great video! I've learned a lot and feel more confident now. It was so good you left the Links to your older videos in the description. Thank You as always Viper...

[@illusion86ln]

Shoutout to KAMRAN_75 for liking Viperconcept’s activity!

[@notdeepee]

*Neexistuje* *neexistuje* Which one?

[@illusion86ln]

notdeepee you mean time?

[@notdeepee]

*Neexistuje* *neexistuje* I meant "which activity?"

[@illusion86ln]

notdeepee it just pops out in the video KAMRAN_75 liked your activity

[@notdeepee]

*Neexistuje* *neexistuje* Ohhh XD

[@Trimix3D]

Your tutorial is good but only for early beginners. I mean you show how to have a car that handles better but you miss a very important point : i call it "optimization". "Optimization" is about getting car that handles better while going as fast/faster than before. By applying the good fixes linked with each issues of the car. One exemple in the video is when you increase rear downforce of the nissan in PC2, you had understeer when decelerating and oversteer when accelerating. But NO particular lack of rear grip in high speed turns. In your case, you add "parasite" understeer with the rear wing, so it resolves the oversteer problem but since you didint applied the correct setup correction which was bounded with the issue, the car will end therically slower ; that's not optimized. The right things to change here were the dampers/suspensions and maybe the differencial. So in your case you enhance the handling but reduce the speed of the car. If you had changed the right thing in the setup, it would have been optimized and the car would have had the same enhanced handling while being even faster than before. So, i'm not very satisfied with the video and i know you're a good pilot, but to be honest i don't find the video legitimate. My goal is not to be rude, i'm just expressing my opinion. Sorry if i hurt your eyes with my bad english :P

[@viperconcept]

Don't worry no one will accuse you XD However, we have to distinguish 2 different things (as I showed in the video): 1) setting up the car to make it easier to drive. 2) setting up the car to make it faster. sometimes, if the #1 is your 1st goal, conseguently your car will be faster too. But in other cases, making the car easier to drive "sacrifices" a bit the speed. If you're a beginner or an amateur who have a high mistake ratio per lap, you don't mind about the full speed: your goal is to have an easy car to drive to reduce your mistake ratio. Then, of course, if you're a pro, and your mistake per lap ratio is low, your main goal is the #2: making the car faster. About PC2, I had no differences in terms of speed and stability by adjusting the L.S.D. or the dampers. That's why I haven't showed them in the video. But let's face the truth, Trimix3d: if you're a pro already, why would you watch this video? If you're a pro, you shouldn't need a lesson about setup, right? :-) Of course this video is for beginners and amateurs! But, because of the sim-racing world is made mostly by beginners/amateurs than pro sim-racers, I wanted to address to the larger part. I'm sorry if you have been half-disappointed dude! :-)

[@Trimix3D]

viperconcept Okay so we have the same point of view, I just wanna insist on a point : making the car easier to drive is not synonym of making it slower, on certain points it's true but in most of the cases it should make the car faster : 1) because the car has a better balance (no oversteer no understeer=optimal grip) 2) because you're more confident So that's why i'm still persuaded there was something to do with the dampers of this nissan ;) Honestly, I know how to setup a car without problems 😬 but... it always takes me too much time! (maybe because i'm a perfectionist?). Anyway : i didn't came here to have advices on how to setup in itself but to see if you had some techniques to gain time ;)

[@bradleycruse1996]

Trimix3D Have you considered that the standard Nissan setup may have come with less rear downforce than optimal? With damper’s being a progressive spring in theory. increasing bump, rebound or speed would have lead to a minimal change whilst hindering low speed control. The implications of having a high downforce car are that the springs are often pushrod style so that they are stiffer, the dampers would barely be in use at high speed, the springs would be near the max compression and incredibly stiff. The differential could have been edited. But ultimately, nearly every setup change would have a negative consequence, having the car more balanced lose predictability. You no longer depend on understeer, it’ll instead do either. Equally tyre wear is a suffering counterpart from variable dampers and springs. So, in conclusion, I think this tutorial was good enough - as he said, if you’re a pro, make your own video, I think he was right in saying that most sim racers are amateurs, it’s the nature of the games being hard to master

[@bradleycruse1996]

Also a side note on the differential. Being a geared differential there would have to be significant wheel speed difference for it to affect handling characteristics at such speeds

[@Trimix3D]

Bradley Cruse I don't know how the setup of this car works since i never drove it and i don't play pc2. But when i have the kind of problems that happened in the video modifying the dampers is actually the right thing to do. I read your clarification about the dampers but there is though obviously an effect at high speed, at least that's what i see in AC. Of course i considered the fact that there wasn't enough rear downforce in the default setup but i rejected this theory because the nissan had understeer at high speed while decelerating : that's also why i think the issue has more to do with dampers/suspension. I want to clarify : in my comment i didn't wanted to expose my setup knowledge to discredit viper for fun. I wanted to prove that it was the wrong way to setup the car. Of course, if the car lacked globally of rear grip at high speed, viper should have increased the rear wing. But that's not the issue he said in the video.

[@ahmedmohmed4346]

@11:12 why he Determine the first gear as a short gear?

[@DivvayKhatri]

I don't want you gone viper!😔

[@henrywyhyt]

Helped massively with my savana RX-7 in GT Sport. Thank you!

[@jsupra]

A smart set of strategies, Viper. Keep 'em coming

[@inevitablecraftslab]

haha the intro ROCKS!!

[@Sh4h33d]

Loving the OPM demo disc background music. Brings back so many memories of the PS2 era. 😊👏👏👏👏

[@blackavant9405]

Thanks alot, i always fail with set up but now i know better so i will be able to tune the car well, but i still have a problem with the suspension i can't quite understand it pretty well.

[@ekhliousful]

hey viper i am a big fan of you since the very beginning of the channel i appreciate the effort you put on your clips and i have watched all of you tutorials on how to tune your cars specially the one you made on GT6 i learned each concept in the videos individually but when i try to combine those concepts and apply those at once things start to get of hand each setup aspect affect the others in away i dont know about it & you didn't mention it so i end up just tweak one aspect or two no more.. so can you please make a video/series about the harmony between different aspects of tuning the car i will appreciate it man , thanks keep the awesomeness

[@riagomitolamelo5420]

Nice video for noobie like me , now i know why my setup are bad xD . And.. 5:00 ... this music brought me back many years to ps2 demos

[@KKPlaysGD]

What is it's name?

[@faustmet4362]

Whats a music?

[@vr4luva491]

Try racing the 300zx LM car from cockpit view

[@bainy8366]

What is classed as a low, medium and high powered car?

[@Tutujiujiuex]

7:34 Ps2 demo disc menu music. anyone?

[@shadowthejudgehog9081]

Song at 6:21?

[@SheetFiber]

I need the next level setup. how to make it fast around the track. I can tame a car to become sticky like a glue, but mostly it would be off the pace. please answer this viper, I need a solution.

[@Misterjasperrr]

SheetFiber4488 make it a little less sticky

[@SheetFiber]

@@Misterjasperrr that's the problem, I don't know where to start and I have no clue about damper adjustment for a GT3 car

[@blackavant9405]

Same as me, i know very little about tunning a race car or a road car but i always fail, maybe two or three times it worked for me but also it wasn't too well, my problem is with the suspension.

[@pedinhu18]

I love these kinds of videos, nice stuff

[@thejdmunknown4228]

i have question: what is a best track for making a setup in PC2 ?

[@YIGloomy2Day]

The Jdm Unknown California highway. 1st sector for testing cornering. there are all kind of krubs include dips and crests. so you can test overall downforce and responsibility. and the reverse one will be start at long highway so you can test your straight speed here.

[@YIGloomy2Day]

if youre finding actual circuit for test, Redbull ring and Spa is good also. you can test downforce, speed, acceleration, weight transfer, braking and more.

[@thejdmunknown4228]

ok thanks

[@GBS791]

The Jdm Unknown you want to set up the car for the track you are going to race. For exemple between Le Mans and nordschleife your set up will be totally different (ride height, damping, aero, gears, etc)

[@SicKem]

This is teaching me a lot considering I don’t tune and use gt planet

[@Alessandrohero]

excellent video as always :)

[@irsyadkushadianto122]

Thanks for the lesson vipe

[@GolovaPomidor]

VERY useful video:))) thanks viperconcept ,now i have 2 new setups ^.^

[@benfennell6842]

That ps1 demo disc intro gave me goosebumps

[@benfennell6842]

And ps2 demo disc music wtf

[@RallycrossGT]

very useful video. thanks a lot for this!!!

[@ReymonG90]

Amazing as always! I hope to find you in ACC some day :D !

[@giorgionesbeloottone5057]

Oh... The first song bring back a lot of memories

[@sbmorris2k6]

What's it from?

[@protalukoriginal4560]

@@sbmorris2k6 seems like its a ps1-ps2 demo disc. I don't know the name tho

[@KingLich451]

0:32 which game is that?

[@belagajdan]

Motorsport manager

[@KingLich451]

thank you

[@Da_Fktopuss]

What about AWD suspensions? I really want to know

[@thericola]

I need help setting up my Porsche 911 GT3 R on pc2. I'm just starting out not using SC but I'm finding it impossible to drive as I keep spinning out whilst breaking and turning in on corners. I've watched loads of setup videos but I can't seem to be able to fix the issue. Can anyone help? :(

[@xedjflowx]

Great video honestly.

[@LazOyuncu61]

I just can't remember all these stuff at once! What should i do for it?

[@dapperd6636]

Take some pen and paper.. write shit down and there will be a time you can remember everything, works for me

[@LazOyuncu61]

@@dapperd6636 Noting is not my thing but i will still keep it as a "Last Bet". Thanks!

[@outrunracer82]

You could use a programm like onenote or similar that what i do, i put down my setup note on there and keep it in the background if i need to check them

[@notdeepee]

Daniel Baks Old School! 💪

[@toreiworks]

Thanks for the video!! I got scared that you wasn’t gonna be back...

[@tranceadict11]

Hey Viper, I love your videos!, you can't imagine how I improve my car set up and techniques because of u, thanks for sharing that knowledge to us!. I just have one constructive advice, can you please zoom the screen when you are touching the set up? cause sometimes I want to see your videos on mi phone and I can't see a thing on the screen lol. But I know for sure you are goin to be big and its a matter of time you get more subs so keep it up!

[@Guardrailkid]

if you wanna understeer even more, soften your tires

[@Kazumad54]

Perfect as always

[@SicKem]

Also viper with the gears could you find out how fast with the current spec and then setup the gears to that speed so you could reach a straight at that speed without having more gear or not enough unless you draft?

[@I00RESET00I]

The Golden video

[@minnyo4124]

This channel is fucking golden.

[@gianlucaroberti6195]

Thanks for the help..Grazie per il tuo aiuto!

[@ivokalli7025]

What is the best racing sim for multiplayer at the moment for PC? Not too many people on Project Cars 2 (sadly) which I like a lot :)

[@Hutututu]

I love your videos!!!!!!

[@no_s3nse873]

Oversteering with the fordGT40 Mark1 on Nürburgring Nordschleife is an absolutely challenge because it exist an left right fast section and this don't like the GT40

[@boostedwilliam8923]

Soo many thanks for this! :)

[@chiciojarareseduard5392]

Nice video Bro post more often.

[@hatef7023]

Hey dude i wanted to ask something,have you played much of trackmania?and if so what do you think of it?and btw great and very informative video!

[@sabomt]

In the F1 games is the same thing ?

[@viperconcept]

yes!

[@RyderGaming]

I have to disagree with your methodology here Viper, I thinks this misses a very important aspect of setup: Learning the track. I think with what you've shown may players will get the car to a comfortable level, but when it comes to improving your lap time you'll have to learn the track and then restart the whole BOOST setup again.

[@viperconcept]

I think your point was implied/understood already by the players. I mean, logically when you setup a car, you setup it to match the track. But let's say the player didn't setup the car according to the track but only to be comfortable with the car: after learning the track, he shouldn't restart the whole B.O.O.S.T., but just the "S.T.", because you know already the "B.", you know already the "O.", and you know already the second "O." ^_^ Never said setting up a car was a fast process: with or without BOOST, setting up a car requires time and patience.

[@notdeepee]

viperconcept It wasn't implied anywhere though.

[@viperconcept]

notdeepee When I say implied, I mean it's something you should know already without mentioning it.

[@kivanccelik51]

the music is so gran turismo that i know even though i didnt even play gt1 and only a little gt2

[@jonthecowboy]

this video was needed

[@Renfotzer]

Is this gt sports or project cars 2?

[@viperconcept]

both!

[@_VictorSanz_]

today i realized that literally all blancpain circuits go clockwise... ):

[@toro4271]

But then Imola 2020 went anti clockwise

[@moundain4220]

@@toro4271 so imola before that didnt go anti clockwise ?

[@toro4271]

@@moundain4220 not that I remember but I could be wrong for all I know

[@moundain4220]

@@toro4271 hmmm

[@DanielGaming100]

👍

[@joaoignotti]

That intro said u are on drugs HAHAHAH NICE

[@radkocernohous4833]

Wait wait wait, you play VRC Pro?! 0:39

[@renangoncalvesflores]

Gotta remember to download and save all these lessons by Viperconcept. We can't risk losing this stuff to some fucking stupid law by some fucking stupid people.

[@adamike9990]

I need video where you will explain how to deal with turbo cars mostly turbo lag. I have big problems with turbo cars. Do you have any like that ?

[@aaronjenkinson]

If we're getting this in the US does that mean the channel is safe?

[@bradleycruse1996]

Arcticle 13 hasn’t come into action yet

[@aaronjenkinson]

@@bradleycruse1996 aw but they passed it?

[@bradleycruse1996]

Yup

[@treerexaudi]

not bad!

[@SankarshanGhosh]

I feel like this is too much to ask for from you. But I'm new to cars. I don't have a car of myself yet. But I love cars. I've fallen in love with them from childhood but didn't have enough resources to know more about them. I searched on KZbin as well but that didn't help. Can you please make a video, about the basics of a car? Like how the engine works, transmission, crankshaft, all those complicated car words that I don't know meaning of. I wanna know more about them in a easy way. I know this is too much to ask for but I'd appreciate. So will many.

[@agoniavr]

Probably a bit too much infos to ask here, I'd suggest you watch Viper videos on specific car parts, Chris Haye's tutorial on how to setup(it explains a lot of parts) and especially Engineering Explained! That goes into super technical stuff but also explains the basics :) there's also a series(which is paid though) called How a car works if I recall correctly. There's a bunch of free videos from them on KZbin and you can find that cause they work on a Miata :)

[@viperconcept]

You can start learning about car components in the 3 videos I linked in the video-description. I tried to explain everything in the simplest way. ;-)

[@XStuntManiac]

Well, you can use google and read about it, or search youtube for someone who already does that, really, there's ton of videos about it already everywhere, lot of informations from lot of people, you just need to search and read/watch. I know that you like viperconcept and he's a reliable source of informations, but that kind of knowledge you can get form anywhere. It's okay if you ask, it's just my opinion. He might consider your question as a video suggestion.

[@dondon4753]

Example of PC2 is very helpful for me. Thank you, sir. Let's B.O.O.S.T. ! :D

[@ryandutkiewicz5257]

KD os brs?

[@RenanBecker]

Excelent!

[@RyanGrijp]

2:23 nervous!

[@luigiberrelhaalbarici2857]

Bro i play forza. Wath i need to do?

[@lexuslfaguy3758]

Gamepad

[@leroyadlam12]

@@coioterocks he doesn't need to change game because this applies to forza as well

[@S4NY4RKuRDBoZZ]

Hey Viper i have ideas for NFS 2019 if you do a video about and want to share

[@regin_chao]

motosport manager, a great game

[@Serpter4215]

How to set up cars? 1. Sit in the driver seat 2. Push the accelerator 3. Crash and learn

[@protalukoriginal4560]

Lol

[@SicKem]

Had to look at this again so I could tune for a friend

[@Phoenix_VR]

respect

[@VinzCassel]

dat intro x'D Good video!

[@DarkMik97]

Ottimo

[@sbmorris2k6]

First 2 soundtracks anyone really bugging me now????

[@doflamingo1360]

Ah yes South city and West city music

[@baglansagindik8451]

Can you make subtitles Russian language

[@leroyadlam12]

Someone put this BOOST technique into comments

[@nicologallicchio9092]

Today is my birthday

[@austinobambino1360]

Happy birthday!

[@nicologallicchio9092]

@@austinobambino1360 grz

[@davidjuhasz6953]

You should speak in these kind of videos instead writing a crynolog:)

[@Phoenix_VR]

yeah, I had to pause every now and then to read and see what he is pointing at the same time :S :S

[@j0lel666]

But then you cant watch these without headset or class

[@sv52308]

@@j0lel666 Why would you watch this during class and also why wouldn't your teacher take your phone away?

[@ismasire1637]

Thank you very much, this is perfect for me and it's a thing that I wanted to try... please show your face soon!!! 😂😜😎... well, I know you won't do it yet, but I would like you to... ;-)

[@PhO3NiX96]

"Setup master" AHAH really dispointing video tbh. When we click on this we are not expecting to see if the car understeer we put more oversteer, we wanted really good tips. What can make you gain 0.4 sec a lap, setup depending on some tracks etc. I'm gonna stop watching your videos anyway because apparently you don't play ACC and you're way too focused on this kind of cars, I'm more into race cars anyway. Was fun to learn a lot from you in the beginning, I wish you good fortune o/

[@ihavewaited90daystochangem51]

you're making it sound like you leaving matters to anyone in any kind of way.

[@PhO3NiX96]

Ah sorry if you felt it like that, didn't mean to

[@leroyadlam12]

Your complete stupid get some help 😑😂😂

[@protalukoriginal4560]

Dumb

[@MrNiceKnife]

100th like 😁👍

[@KonstantinOrekhov]

Real problem take place when setup by b.o.o.s.t. method goes like b.o.o.s.t...o.s.t.o.s.t.o.s.t.o.s.t...fk it I'm quit...

[@MasterGamer-ms8qg]

inb4 the comments that actually get likes :3

[@miguelcorreia281]

(🙄)🙈plzzzzz

[@miguelcorreia281]

Stop detuning cars plzzz!

[@miguelcorreia281]

Slow and slow...