Perfect Serve PRONATION Technique For Massive POWER & SPIN

[@shabzone]

This channel is underrated - the videos are well filmed and edited, instructions are clear with animated graphics and backed by data and research. You guys have great energy and obviously enjoy what you are doing and in return makes us enjoy the video more. There are a lot of tennis lessons on youtube focusing on what not to do and the negative vibe makes me not want to play at all. I do think sometimes the jokes and outtakes distract us from the really nice insights and maybe it'll be better to keep them in a B-reel at the end but that's just my opinion.

[@ve1803]

nope. mislead.

[@ve1803]

This is a classic tail wags dog fallacy. keep doing what they suggested you will only get a rotator cuff tear and early retirement from tennis.

[@atptennisreplay2240]

Hey! I post replay of atp tennis match

[@strongbrain3128]

It is funny that 5.2% speed contribution due to forearm pronation is called massive technique and game change, while 54.2% speed contribution thanks to upper arm internal rotation should have been emphasized more. Imaging 5% of improvement of any technique means nothing for most of us. A misguiding tennis technique video here!

[@anthonygibson660]

@@ve1803 Nope, you're wrong. I've been pronating since I watched their videos and it put ZERO pressure on the shoulder when combined with let drive and proper trophy pose and racquet drop.

[@hd0911]

Best tennis channel. Involves the science and the athleticism of tennis. Can’t wait to get this into practice!

[@smokinjoe4684]

I appreciate things being broken down into bite sized pieces, like pancakes...

[@AirGuitar]

I believe that with the proper grip and being loose enough, leading on edge and pronation occur naturally. I have a feeling all of the top servers when they were young didn't even know what pronation was, but they were able to be loose enough to implement the correct mechanics early on.

[@DavidBreneisen]

Probably, I was never taught pronation and do it, but not to the extreme amount that the pros do which feels pretty unnatural without specifically training it.

[@capricornmagic63]

I agree with this 100%. I'm pretty sure no one told Stan Smith, Dick Stockton, Chip Hooper, Yannick Noah, Boris Becker, Ivanisevic, Sampras and so many others about pronation. Tennis coaches today try too hard to be all-knowing and I have a feeling that they would complicate rather than simplify things. This guy in particular I find annoying he seems immature and giggles like an idiot.

[@gtsounder]

OMG, just found you guys and wish I had sooner. I love the energy and enthusiasm combined with the science behind things. You break it down very nicely and I love the graphics. Personally I like that you also have fun in your videos as you're just the type of coach I'd love to have. And you're right, getting the blueberries on the pancakes properly is key to a good service game.

[@svarthofde2492]

I don't care about my serve anymore, I need that hair!

[@strongbrain3128]

It is funny that 5.2% speed contribution due to forearm pronation is called massive technique and game change, while 54.2% speed contribution thanks to upper arm internal rotation should have been emphasized more. Imaging 5% of improvement of any technique means nothing for most of us. A misguiding tennis technique video here!

[@jakehkign]

Thank You! I finally made some improvement in my serve thanks to a few of your videos

[@kavarasings9813]

IF YOUR ARE PRONATING, HOW DO YOU HIT A SLICE SERVE? wouldnt pronation only be good for flat serve or inside out serves?

[@dwightlewis2026]

Only having discovered your channel recently, I find it to be the best one by far for carefully connecting the biomechanical science with the actual tennis motion. Outstanding. Keep your videos coming!

[@ishanss9964]

Same here.

[@andersflodmark8724]

I think "PRONATION" in the title should be replaced with "INTERNAL SHOULDER ROTATION", pronation is just a small part of the story.. IMHO.

[@YoonKoo-b6g]

Your coaching how to serve in general and fundamentals are so helpful!! I thought I was serving correctly until I found your serve lessons in KZbin. Still struggling with changes I needed to make but it makes perfect sense and it actually works tremendously when things starts to click. Keep doing what you do coaches we love you for your thorough teaching not only in serve but all other skills!! 😊👍🎾👌🫡

[@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808]

Agree with this. Once the right principles are in place, the pronation will work automatically ✅

[@henryng9406]

Awesome advice, will try this out ASAP. Thank You, ❤❤❤ Subscribed.

[@kwansikkim8712]

The most complete explanations on pronation I've seen. The fact that he classified it with forearm and internal shoulder rotation shows its quality, IMHO. Anyway thanks. I wonder who the dr. Elliott is. Lol.

[@walterkasper467]

Great lesson. Great video !!! 69 years old and still trying to improve. Thanks 😊

[@pieterbeckertenniscoaching5808]

Never too old 😀✅✅

[@a.s1469]

Nice

[@ricardoriveraruiz5752]

Never thought about that throwing baseball and football player analogy!!! It makes it much easier to understand

[@denniswild4591]

In the clip, where he say counter clockwise (59 seconds into the video) this is the illustration. While he says that, notice which way the arrow is pointing. He should have said clockwise, not counterclockwise, unless you are the opponent looking at the server, then it would be counter clockwise, and we are looking from the perspective of the server, thus clockwise.

[@kesseje13]

Love these videos -- great instruction and delivery! It would be great to see some WTA players included in the pro technique clips used in the videos throughout the channel.

[@P3u99]

I finally understand how to serve based on your vid. There are hundreds of other vids but I haven’t been able to transfer any of them to the court side. Thank you. I mean I’m not there yet and it’s always WIP but on the right track. My contact point is now correct and the serve is hit cleanly.

[@benjackson9980]

His racket drop fluidity and his hair are amazing

[@moinauch3041]

Many thanks for your tips. Even for a foreigner it is possible to understand your English, because you spoke not fast. 🙏

[@SVHBaixo]

Unbelievable, that is your real laugh, I thought it was someone else you edited in. You are in the Kawhi Leonard camp. Lol. Great work.

[@gregorychoi6889]

Great vid! I was wondering if you could cover weight training and exercises for tennis players off the court. This would include specific workouts/tips.

[@isthisonvideo]

These videos are better than any lesson I could pay for. So educational. Game changer! Literally. 😉

[@CoachAdrian]

Great work 👍 Thanks for citing your sources so we can also look it up ourselves

[@RacquetFlex]

My pleasure! It's always a joy to share as we are always learning new things from our research as well. 😁

[@arnoldsandiego5377]

Thanks for the videos.. i llearned so much from your videos. Thank you.

[@johnnybgood1169]

I will watch simply because of this man's hair.

[@felipeapolinario8842]

Dude face at 08:48 shows the struggle we, people watching this video, have at serving

[@RacquetFlex]

Hahahahaha 😂

[@zico104]

Best channel for tennis technique

[@RacquetFlex]

Thanks so much Zico!

[@ianmackinlay8925]

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[@topspinprochina]

samprus is using a short axis pronation which is the way I do according to my coach, it is like the weapon of Bruce Lee, to accelerate the racket head speed by shorten the length or the radius suddenly.

[@RacquetFlex]

That is a great point indeed! If you have the shoulder mobility, strength and joint stabilization, I've noticed it to be one of the best types of post-contact rotations that also creates so much spin (hence Sampras' deadly kick) 😉

[@gugz911]

No, did you say 3k likes ??? Bro what an explanation. Checking up all the boxes, i didn't know even know that i didn't know, that exist!!! Hands down 🙌🏽

[@gugz911]

Wtf!! Why my name is showing daddy 471 ??? How to change it ? 😅

[@phanikiran9826]

Love your serve man!

[@tamtran2231]

For a right handed player, why doesn't the internal rotation send the ball to right every time?

[@JAYljkihkj]

will try and let you know if it works for me too:-=) like and subscribe is done

[@talesara74]

99.99% recreational players have no idea about this

[@jakefan77]

Hey guys! Love your videos, 4.5 player here trying to get to the next level. Your videos are spot on! Thank you so much!

[@henrylove514]

8:53 "A deal is a deal!" Love it! I can't wait to see that video!

[@dnomdelopez1921]

Great, tyvm!

[@ksagstertohi6156]

Are there 2 of you? How many BLM’s are on this woke channel? Who is rocking the Fro? Whst happened to the white dude? Is he is Rehab? You guys (or guy) rock!! ps. Many best to avoid letting the tweeter make videos for a minute.

[@erdnaabc9583]

nice way to pass the instructions. subscribed, you are at mouratouglou video's level. Keep the good work. Greetings from Brazil. S&V

[@AndreyPozhidaevRussiaMoscow]

what a wonderful movie turned out, and what magnificent views around the court, I just want to go to training. from Moscow with love. ❤️🎾🇷🇺 PS With you, I am not only learning to play tennis, but also learning to speak English.

[@kelvins6545]

Clear and concise! good breakdown of each technique~!

[@antonydandan6255]

You’ve got the BEST channel about tennis guys! I enjoy watching it, having fun and learning from you. I improved my service skills massively thanks!

[@chubzdon1]

The serve is probably the most complex stroke in tennis utilizing pretty much every part of the body. Legs, hips, back, shoulder, forearms, and wrist. It's like sending a shockwave of force from the ground through your body to your hands to get maximum racquet head speed. And this channel explains it very thoroughly. 👍

[@marco11997733]

Hey there, I watch and enjoy all of your videos. You two are as knowledgeable as you are entertaining. Since this video is about pronation, I was wondering what your opinion is on this one here (kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6qmm5mlgMmXl6M) . I am only asking because sometimes I do find myself trying way too hard at pronating that I forget about all the other fundamental movements of the serve. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thanks and "until next time, go out and try hard. I'll see you in the next video". 😉

[@tonyaquinoxx]

That was a bad comparison sprinter and how to serve.

[@8neil830]

Too much time on the Wrong way- the Eastern grip; we remember what we see so please show us how to do it correctly/optimally- eg, continental grip

[@obaidfarghani9202]

Very nice video and great job. Beware, if you manufacture pronation, more than anything you will get golfers’s elbow which will affect ur forehand later. this is the best video I ve seen. Thanks for the share.

[@joeimbesi99]

Lovely tech breakdown

[@pocketmatch8358]

Great video! However, I think what you’re missing in your videos is what do you even do on contact? Like let’s say I do everything right in your video, but if I just keep hitting the ball at the wrong angle or the wrong brush motion then it’s all pointless. For example, if a player hits a forehand with a “windshield wiper” on contact they will never generate the same amount of rpm or “heaviness” as someone who skims the top of the ball and follows through like the pros. What players do at contact is insanely crucial. Without including that part in your videos, then it’s really hard to see the effects of the kinetic chain. If what you’re doing on contact is wrong, i feel like it just won’t work 🙁. I know because I used to do a windshield wiper forehand. Then, my coach told me I’m doing everything wrong on contact and once I did things correctly on contact, my forehand was incredible. I hope maybe you could add that to your videos going forward. That is the key ingredient you’re missing.

[@Nika-pn4hu]

Hey can you put the name of the paper here where you found @04:30

[@ypure3859]

I am still confused 😕 so slice probates after contact? and some use the probate for extra 5% momentum....so the ball contact is less slice..??? HELP

[@jagannadhkoutha7614]

Great way to get Ultimate power on the serve and equally great illustration of a simple concept..! Perfect Instruction..!

[@frankjoya4234]

I really appreciate all of the biomechanics as someone who deals with medicine on a daily basis (physician), this makes more sense to someone like myself. I think a lot of this is information is instituted in the techniques by top coaches without delving to the young players "why we do what we do". Again, thank you for this phenomenal explanation.

[@ryanlintner5207]

Wow 5000th like! I was over rotating through the arm and started to get medial epicondylitis from it. I’m going to experiment with stretching the pecs and shoulder then doing serves that rotate from the shoulder when my tendons are less inflamed. Thanks!

[@guidodelgiudice5]

Here I am again. Two years into trying to learn how to serve I am back to this video where my research for correction begun. My serve still doesn't exist. I'll give it another try.

[@marktace1]

Conceptually one should get more speed by continuing internal rotation past contact due to not slowing down into contact but the racquet head slows down so much at impact that one can probably go into impact at full speed and still have very little external rotation past impact. The main reason for involuntary internal rotation past release in throwing is deceleration and that just isn’t an issue with serving due to how much the racquet slows at impact (and because the hand isn’t moving as fast given that a racquet is much heavier than a baseball.)

[@roeizilber]

hey man, excellent video! is that a Blade Racket? which model? tnx

[@nabeenhussain524]

Thanks! On a flat serve at contact should the wrist be neutral or radially deviated? Slice? Thanks.

[@sceptistik3832]

i've tried this technique, but to make sure im in the right way, what should my arm feel, after execution. is it my wrist, fore arm or shoulder should be feel more tense?

[@glennlubomirskynovitch3254]

Is there any exercise to work out this pronation action of your arm and shoulder, with a weight instead of the racquet? In order to develop the supple movement.

[@willfletch5871]

Come on guys. We have 3000😀😃😎😎😎

[@ron2117]

Could you show the racquet drop in slow motion, hard to pick the positions.Thanks.

[@HungLe-pk3oz]

Thank you so much for your videos. Can you show how the serve swing path looks like? I hit the net many times

[@kianushmaleki]

I love your videos, jokes, tips, and everything. Awesome video

[@nrg0xb]

Brilliant explanations dude! Love the deep dives into biomechanics.

[@cilami]

Best explanation I have seen!

[@RacquetFlex]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@TeslaEVolution]

AWESOME. Thanks.

[@cacaoperesoso732]

This guy is very technical and correct, hope to see more videos...cheers from Lima

[@karti321]

Pancakes 🥞😂

[@sanjeetbzad6692]

Sir please don't use beep sound thats too loud . I was using headphones and that sound hit direct on my soul . ( Love your content sir )

[@danielpozo3954]

Awesome! Finally i understood the serve 👏👏👏👏

[@andrassolyom4333]

your presentations are the best, outstanding, most attractive, clear and useful for tennis players of all levels

[@ve1803]

sorry but this is completely wrong. especially that paper you referred to.

[@aryathacker9073]

Can u make a tutorial on slides for forward(like for drops) and sidewards movements on hard court

[@adrianaldea5869]

Hi Coach. Can you please advise where to exactly hit the tennis ball on contact? Ty

[@Jacques0826]

Love the compact elbow around shoulder level on set up rather than dropping racquet to side and usual full windup.

[@jeanne8380]

Thank you bro. Just discovered your channel and it helps a lot. Really love your enthusiasm 😀 and humor. Will try all your tips and win better my matches ...

[@saulomotta]

Esse vídeo é muito bom. Uma verdadeira aula de graduação baseada em dados e não apenas em fatos!! Parabéns a todos vocês.

[@PTKirkw]

Great videos. Question for you: My son has a hard time "hitting on Edge" with his serve (he ALWAYS "waiters trays" it). I'm thinking about switching his grip to a more OPEN grip as it forces an "on edge" motion at the peak....I know the CONTINENTAL grip is the golden rule...so do you think this is a good idea?

[@RacquetFlex]

Hey Patrick, great question! Typically, the problem I see is more in the player not understanding "how to strike the ball" from the on-edge position. For your son, I'd recommend focusing more on: 1. Getting used to a relaxed throwing motion (without and with the racquet). If you achieve a full, relaxed racquet drop, a lot of the time, the on-edge position takes care of itself. 2. Getting used to how the pronation motion can generate force over the ball. Most players think "push through" with their entire arm - with this thinking, opening the strings up is actually the stronger position. Leading on-edge only becomes comfortable when the player is able to feel "rotating through" the ball with their racquet (from the shoulder and forearm). P.S. We actually made a full video series on the Serve Swing Mechanics that I think would really help you guys out. It's free right now. You can check it out here: www.racquetflex.com/serve-challenge I hope it helps! Cheers, - Daytri

[@PTKirkw]

@@RacquetFlex Thanks Daytri! I REALLY appreciate it!

[@ServantoftheLord10565]

These guys are good!! Thanks for helping me improve my game!

[@essouna]

Really really interesting and precise approach. Thank you

[@ale0605]

TOP TEACHER TENNIS

[@sherdogsherdog4177]

This is a kick serve

[@WilliamJPwa]

Nice class, Teacher. Regards from Brazil.

[@HansFra3400]

Soooooo stoked that I've found your channel. Great videos! :-)

[@FairwayJack]

good stuff ... can you do some coaching on the reactive brake of the non-hitting arm?

[@htainlindwa80]

Funny dude hehe

[@drbonesshow1]

Bongo Bongo Tennis.

[@otaviodembu]

Thks a lot ❤️

[@theenglishman3368]

Is his hair real?!

[@franciscogarciaperez1015]

Me gusta

[@markie1aa]

Sooper- dooper

[@ypure3859]

EXCELLENT!!!

[@ssenssel]

I love Naomi Osaka's bother! 😊

[@allanlew1]

so much excellent info! have not heard this stuff before

[@Lochrie]

Brilliant video. Thank you.

[@mathewjacob5004]

Terrific use of physiology and research

[@silviacisleanu6455]

Super