Radeon 6800 (XT): Are they the best Linux Gaming Cards (that you can't buy)?

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Level1Linux

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@julian.morgan
@julian.morgan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Linux centric perspective - I agree we need to somehow make it clear that it is AMD's attitude towards Linux that makes their product the obvious choice, so we encourage them to go further into the future.
@Quarky_
@Quarky_ 3 жыл бұрын
I think the best appreciation would be contribute to some of the machine learning frameworks ROCm support; that's the money maker, break Nvidia's CUDA monopoly. I really want to try that, I'm buying these cards next year for sure.
@emazzikanbodo3014
@emazzikanbodo3014 3 жыл бұрын
@@Quarky_ wait until stocks come about. Staying safe in a Bunker, until this winter
@Quarky_
@Quarky_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@emazzikanbodo3014 Indeed, I'm in no hurry :). Also, I would rather have an APU. Going by past trend, the 5000Gs should be coming out Feb-March. Something equivalent to the 4750G would be fantastic! Paired with one of these, it's the perfect work+fun and everything in between setup ;)
@morosis82
@morosis82 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Buy a card. I will next year. I want a game streaming server.
@blackmennewstyle
@blackmennewstyle 3 жыл бұрын
They should also consider to release their drivers not only for GNU/Linux Ubuntu though, some love for GNU/Linux Debian which GNU/Linux Ubuntu is based on would have been nice lol
@807800
@807800 3 жыл бұрын
It's rare to see Wendell being this genuinely happy.
@emazzikanbodo3014
@emazzikanbodo3014 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be a happy camper 😸 too with that set up working. Then gonna get rollercoaster tycoon up n running on it. They'll need to make a hal 9000. Aio display for thread ripper
@lucasrem
@lucasrem 3 жыл бұрын
nerdy enthousiasme
@dannyvillaroel219
@dannyvillaroel219 3 жыл бұрын
This isalittle sad.
@kiseitai2
@kiseitai2 3 жыл бұрын
Well, if you have had experience with vfio and rx5700, you would be so happy about not having to do a hard reboot of your server because the windows vm locked up or have to schedule driver updates a la enterprise style. It is a headache with one vm. It most be horrifying if you have multiple vms in active use. This is indeed great news (one fewer reason to consider NVidia this gen).
@remasteredretropcgames3312
@remasteredretropcgames3312 3 жыл бұрын
Cool.
@klemmonade
@klemmonade 3 жыл бұрын
My day is perfect, and my excitement is immeasurable. I mean when I can get it in stock.
@LightWrathme
@LightWrathme 3 жыл бұрын
I came here to see if the PCI reset works (no reset bug) and it's in the first minute of the video. I'm hyped!
@lame_lema
@lame_lema 3 жыл бұрын
Literally same. He knows his demographic lmao
@honestsniping1
@honestsniping1 3 жыл бұрын
can someone explain what pci reset is?
@Mallchad
@Mallchad 3 жыл бұрын
If I understand it correctly it clears any settings and states applied to a PCI device and kind of "reboots" it. With graphics passthrough to virtual machines the VM and card will complain because the card already has states that is telling it is has booted as is doing work.
@LightWrathme
@LightWrathme 3 жыл бұрын
@@honestsniping1 I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people than me on this topic but my understanding is: It's important that the graphics card has the ability to reset itself without needing to be power cycled. This is talked about a lot when using VFIO because once the guest virtual machine has the card passed though, it will initialize the card (Load the GPU BIOS). Normally I believe when you have a card that doesn't have a reset problem, the driver is unloaded during machine shutdown and the card automatically resets so it's in a clean state to be used again when the machine is started up. However on some AMD cards the GPU doesn't reset and so it's left in a dirty state which means it cannot be used again until the whole machine it power cycled. This doesn't just affect people using VFIO though, if the driver or card encounter an issue during operation. The card would reset and the driver reloaded but with this issue the OS is left needing a full hard reboot. You may have at some point got an error from windows saying something like "The graphics driver recovered from an error" I believe this reset process is whats happening to allow such a recovery. I don't think the PCI Bus it's self is responsible for the reset of the device but it can trigger a reset by placing the card in a lower power state and then returning to a normal power state.
@honestsniping1
@honestsniping1 3 жыл бұрын
@@LightWrathme sounds nice, thank you very much for the detailed explanation.
@audiencebigg6302
@audiencebigg6302 3 жыл бұрын
This really gave me a sigh of relief after hearing all the good things about this card being used on Linux systems. I am definitely eager and planning on getting an AMD card for sure, to support FOSS drivers!
@memmeem5960
@memmeem5960 3 жыл бұрын
Passing through the USB port is something I didn't even think about. Thanks for testing that.
@lucasrem
@lucasrem 3 жыл бұрын
That's what all Thunderbolt people do! Just intel PCIe, now on AMD too!
@Arjun-eb1yc
@Arjun-eb1yc 3 жыл бұрын
As a Linux-Windows dual booter and a Linux gamer these would have to really suck for me to not pick them over Geforce. The AMD software model on Linux just fits better with the Linux ecosystem. They have come so far, when I bought my R9 290 in 2014 it really sucked in Linux. I used to write forum posts complaining about slow it is in Linux. Both the open drivers and the proprietary ones sucked, the latter of which most of the time I could not even figure out how to install successfully. Now I play AAA games on Linux with freesync too, I never would have imagined it five years ago on this same piece of hardware.
@traviskraemer
@traviskraemer 3 жыл бұрын
Amd used to suck on Linux really badly. I had an rx 470 and once the drivers got good on Linux, it’s by far the best experience I had on Linux. I unfortunately upgraded to an rtx 2060 not realizing how bad they were on Linux. Can’t wait to switch back.
@jouniosmala9921
@jouniosmala9921 3 жыл бұрын
​@@traviskraemer My experience with 2070 super on ubuntu has been positive. I'm curious what sucks?
@acoustic6865
@acoustic6865 3 жыл бұрын
@@jouniosmala9921 Things like compositors and the lack of good open source drivers from nvidia. Its fine for gaming, but anything else on linux like the desktop runs like crap on nvidia. My integrated graphics had a smoother experience than my old gtx 1070. I got an rx 5700xt to replace it, but now I might want to upgrade to an rx 6900xt when that comes out
@NaumRusomarov
@NaumRusomarov 3 жыл бұрын
Yo, help out a homie over here. Do games running over proton work fine with freesync on AMD? I mostly play DE.
@Arjun-eb1yc
@Arjun-eb1yc 3 жыл бұрын
@@NaumRusomarov I will check and let you know. Been playing native games lately.
@kojack57
@kojack57 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wendell. Your enthusiasm is as infectious as usual. I genuinely fall asleep every night planning and wishing for a Ryzen build with PCIx4 M.2 gigabyte transfer and storage. A 5950x and now the 6800xt with vfio in Manjaro and all that GNS3, KVM learning and fun.
@bboyzagy
@bboyzagy 3 жыл бұрын
Another Linux video. Oh boy, Wendell is on a roll.
@Lukas-er4nd
@Lukas-er4nd 3 жыл бұрын
This video calls for some engagement. My 5700 has been running fine under Fedora, but this just got on my radar because of this awesome out-of-the-box operation. *Proceeds to look where to buy this thing*
@intheprettypink
@intheprettypink 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the upcoming gpu reset video.
@TylerNieman
@TylerNieman 3 жыл бұрын
This is the exact review that i've been looking for - thanks, @Level1Linux!
@noanyobiseniss7462
@noanyobiseniss7462 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't your goal here but you talked me into trying Linux again! BTW have checked it out a few times since 1990 and have always been disappointment so this is no small feat.
@maagu-_-
@maagu-_- 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could like this twice 😄 Thanks for this Linux-centred coverage. I'm really excited about this family of GPUs. I'm a VFIO enthusiast and the reset bug being fixed out of the box is music to my ears.
@ahmetmehmet5277
@ahmetmehmet5277 3 жыл бұрын
If there was (may be there is) a list of good motherboards that have IOMMU groups properly separated, that would be great. Thanks for the video.
@tomtalk24
@tomtalk24 3 жыл бұрын
If there was you wouldn't be asking.
@charlese2833
@charlese2833 3 жыл бұрын
Or even any working IOMMU ANYTHING! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@greevar
@greevar 3 жыл бұрын
If I only bought what I could afford, I wouldn't have anything!
@Gooberpatrol66
@Gooberpatrol66 3 жыл бұрын
#JustDebtorThings
@andreaslegomovies
@andreaslegomovies 3 жыл бұрын
That's really cool! Thanks AMD! And thanks for testing it for us, Wendell :) I hope to see good ROCm support as well (I'm pretty sure I'll get the 6900 xt whenever I can, you sold it well)
@NJRoadfan
@NJRoadfan 3 жыл бұрын
I remember those Matrox cards, had a G400 back in the day. The how-to for xfree86 noted that the matrox x server was the "most hardware accelerated" one out there.
@honzaklos
@honzaklos 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing that remains: SR-IOV
@ezforsaken
@ezforsaken 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I drool over the M25 Instinct gpu with MXGPU support. I need SR-IOV on my home!
@ezforsaken
@ezforsaken 3 жыл бұрын
@kerosin fuchs sadly it doesn't :(
@CaleSchmitz
@CaleSchmitz 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to get an AIB card from Sapphire. I'll probably go for a Nitro+ SE if I even have the option.
@karanvora2674
@karanvora2674 3 жыл бұрын
if you don't like all the rgb blings, their pulse card is better choice. its kinda stealth black no rgb
@YeaSeb.
@YeaSeb. 3 жыл бұрын
I heard the toxic is coming back
@terminalvelocity4858
@terminalvelocity4858 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the testing you did here as I have not seen another for the 6000 series with passthrough AND native. I am just using DXVK for Windows titles and Vulkan/OpenGL for native. I have been running a 6900XT on Arch Linux for a few months now and performance is indeed through the roof! Thanks for the video! Penguin master class!
@taylogs
@taylogs 3 жыл бұрын
Love ur linux channel, thanks for spending time on it.
@DementiaAcerbus
@DementiaAcerbus 3 жыл бұрын
This made me want a Big Navi card more than any other review out there.
@OOJokerOO1991
@OOJokerOO1991 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thx a lot again wendel
@andreapalazzi670
@andreapalazzi670 3 жыл бұрын
Any info on the performance on computing and AI tasks?
@cacheman
@cacheman 3 жыл бұрын
So does booting with "pci=big_root_window" (or whatever the real syntax is) give you a 64-bit BAR?
@MrMolchester
@MrMolchester 3 жыл бұрын
On the last video, I asked for more Linux videos and you liked the comment. You delivered. All hail the tech janitor! Keep it coming 👍🏻
@gorgonbert
@gorgonbert 3 жыл бұрын
PCI reset works!!! 🙏 thank you AMD 🙏 thank you Wendell for checking 🙏
@playnvanilla5176
@playnvanilla5176 3 жыл бұрын
Props for the subtle nod to Review Brah! :)
@LampJustin
@LampJustin 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought the RX6800, can't wait! ^^ Finally a working reset!
@daikucoffee5316
@daikucoffee5316 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it has good templeOs compatibility.
@emazzikanbodo3014
@emazzikanbodo3014 3 жыл бұрын
I hope u have enough Grass 😂, all ready till winter 🥳👍😋
@MunyuShizumi
@MunyuShizumi 3 жыл бұрын
You are not welcome among us Linux cultists!
@JackRudawski
@JackRudawski 3 жыл бұрын
BASED
@MartinWimpress
@MartinWimpress 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you from everyone on the Ubuntu Desktop team for shining a light 🔦 on the great work AMD have done to make the launch of the RT6000 series cards a compelling proposition for Linux users 🐧 We are aware there are improvements to be made for future GPU launches and plans are already in discussion so we can hopefully do better next time around 👍 I have a 3970 and Designare TRX40 myself, currently with an RTX 3090. I am keenly awaiting the release of the RT6900XT so I can compare the two platforms and how/where the CPU vs. GPU workloads converge. Love that you are providing valuable day 1 launch content to Linux enthusiatiasts 💪
@starcitizen1811
@starcitizen1811 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, your review just convinced me to cross the line. Thanks for the review, awesome!!!
@01Revanche
@01Revanche 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Wendel, and thank you. Now just waiting on the stock!
@GrahamAtDesk
@GrahamAtDesk 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Matrox Millenium. Those were the days. :-)
@nukedathlonman
@nukedathlonman 3 жыл бұрын
I've got to say - I'm really liking what I'm seeing and hearing on the Linux front so far. Pretty sure of what I'll be getting if I opt to make an upgrade next year. Thanks Wendell. :-)
@anotherriddle
@anotherriddle 3 жыл бұрын
awesome news! thanks Wendell!
@mavezy
@mavezy 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to pick up one of these as well as a 5900x in the new year. Hopefully they will be available by then, but we'll see!
@TheBeeOBee
@TheBeeOBee 3 жыл бұрын
You sold me on wanting one of these.
@drtekrox
@drtekrox 3 жыл бұрын
20s in and he divulges the most important fact, great work Wendell.
@feschber
@feschber 3 жыл бұрын
I recently got very pleasantly surprised when i tested out openrgb. It just worked without any additional configuration needed and now I can finally adjust my rgb ram in linux. (just putting that out there since I’m seeing the rainbow puke in your systems)
@jamesrivettcarnac
@jamesrivettcarnac 3 жыл бұрын
This is the review I've been waiting for
@microcolonel
@microcolonel 3 жыл бұрын
Very happy with my Radeon VII, and will be getting one of these when the demand calms down.
@GroudFrank
@GroudFrank 3 жыл бұрын
Day 1 support from AMD and day 1 Linux review. Amazing! Thank you for your work sir.
@skaltura
@skaltura 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this :) Good commentary as usual, and exceeded my expectations :)
@heffiagametech8094
@heffiagametech8094 3 жыл бұрын
Wendel you hit this one out of the park too!!!!
@GabrielFoote
@GabrielFoote 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering Linux support!!!
@jd_flick
@jd_flick 3 жыл бұрын
looks like my next system is going to be team red
@DocNo27
@DocNo27 3 жыл бұрын
No kidding. First Ryzen x900 and now this. I haven't been this excited about new hardware in almost a decade! What Apple is starting with the M1 - no matter which platform you prefer, this has been a banner year for hardware enthusiasts with more to come! Nice to see some substantial and meaningful change/jumps in performance.
@DrexxLaggui
@DrexxLaggui 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY! a benchmarking review that I care about :) thank you for the Linux gaming reviews
@More_Row
@More_Row 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome cards, I truly wish to get my hands on a all AMD System for 2021. If fate allows it.
@yatenuhog8921
@yatenuhog8921 3 жыл бұрын
I really like to see a vfio built with that and a video on what to consider. Great video
@bsodmike
@bsodmike 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Wendell, this is awesome!! Consider doing a VFIO setup video and getting the second+ GPU running off a VM? Should be straight forward but would be interesting to see! It'll be a while before most of us can get our hands on these cards anyways...
@redneckrestoration9385
@redneckrestoration9385 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for the Linux review. Might be time to jump ship to AMD for video as well
@daltontinoco7084
@daltontinoco7084 3 жыл бұрын
This is really awesome, I can do a lot with this o:
@KillaBitz
@KillaBitz 3 жыл бұрын
Yay VFIO!!! and Unraid finally added AMD GPU (and other) drivers (in beta)(and much arguing insured)
@TheMaddog0266
@TheMaddog0266 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on this one too
@rabidtommy
@rabidtommy 3 жыл бұрын
Tuned in to hear more about the 6800 series and wasn't expecting the bombshell that the Vega reset defect has been reliably resolved! That has made my day! Question though to help my understanding: Can Looking Glass handle multiple screens? And is there a virtual display driver for guest VMs so they don't need a GPU to run a display?
@_salience_
@_salience_ 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting on this video. I knew Wendell would be just giddy.
@potheadfromthefuture2450
@potheadfromthefuture2450 3 жыл бұрын
haha nice meme reference at the intro
@MadmusicalHulk
@MadmusicalHulk 3 жыл бұрын
Great channel. Love your reviews . I’m going to build a new pc next year once the next gen Threadripper is out and use the 6800xt. My current setup is a x470 Hero VII running Ryzen 2700x, 32gb 3600mhz, 5600xt running Pop_OS and it does me fine but don’t see the point of staying with AM4. Since I also use my iMac Pro 14x a lot it would be great to see thunderbolt on other systems.
@henrik5804
@henrik5804 3 жыл бұрын
Agree...since Linux is the way moving forward it's really nice to have team Red giving us a proper card :D
@goodiezgrigis
@goodiezgrigis 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Wendel, I'll take your word for it. Time to retire my old 1050ti in my linux machine and go for 6800xt as it is just some change more than non xt version and I have been putting of gpu upgrade for 2 years.
@hylogibbon
@hylogibbon 3 жыл бұрын
He took the "my disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined" and turned it around.
@ujiltromm7358
@ujiltromm7358 3 жыл бұрын
Got a R5 3600 and a 5700XT, built it last year, I think I won't change CPU or GPU yet, perhaps next generation. But I'm thoroughly impressed with Zen 3 and Big Navi.
@elheadkickio
@elheadkickio 3 жыл бұрын
Very exciting! I'll be waiting a while for them to go down in price a little, but I'm so getting one.
@bhasselgren
@bhasselgren 3 жыл бұрын
Great news and great video! Let’s just wait for Radeon 6600/6700 from AMD now.
@Kneedragon1962
@Kneedragon1962 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if I did this yet, but Thank You Wendel. Between you and Michael Larabel I have confidence my R9 5950X will work, in Linux, (Mint + Mate) with a Noctua NH-U12a, with a 6800, and I can be confident that everything will just work. (No, that's not meant to be a reference to Jensen, that's in spite of him...)
@gandihellfish
@gandihellfish 3 жыл бұрын
This video was the nail in the coffin for me to order a RX6800. Pleaaase get back in stock. Need that SR-IOV
@oldveeh
@oldveeh 3 жыл бұрын
Men i'm so gona crack my credit card to buy a full red workstation !! Thanks for the benchmark Wendell :D Cheers
@monarch-black
@monarch-black 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't run Linux on an AM4 system yet. This makes me very happy. I may have to dive back in again. It seems Linux gaming has made great strides.
@tin2001
@tin2001 3 жыл бұрын
I've been NVIDIA only on all my desktop systems since the Riva128.... But I'm convinced. Sold out here (Australia) already, but that just means I've got a couple of days to do some research and not impulse buy like I probably would have 4 hours ago if they'd been in stock 😂
@spankroy
@spankroy 3 жыл бұрын
Ha, I had the Matrox Millenia back in the day. I think one reason I bought it was that it may have had OpenStep support. (the first PC I was building was to run OpenStep)
@emazzikanbodo3014
@emazzikanbodo3014 3 жыл бұрын
Now sir, I suggest u go back to open bsd 😈
@CFWhitman
@CFWhitman 3 жыл бұрын
The way that we handle 2D acceleration in Xorg these days is to run a compositor that uses 3D acceleration for everything, even stuff that is actually 2D. This approach actually works fairly well most of the time.
@madhavkawagucci8539
@madhavkawagucci8539 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, gr8 vid. I bought a Dell G5 15 SE with amd ryzen 4600h and rx 5600m. It features amd smartshift power and linux seems to be unstable.People have succesfuly used 5.8 but with broken brightness controls while I tried 5.6.15 with manjaro 20.0.3 and while all controls etc. worked dwm used to crash until amdgpu.runpm =0 is set. Even then the laptop ran hot and eventually one day it stopped booting. I tried a couple of ttx fixes to no lead. I had to uninstall linux only for windows recovery cmd to give more problems while fixing the bootloader. After I messed with admin cmd to removr thr efi folder , dells os profiler crashed and all dell services stopped working. Fortunstely dell had a recovery image from which i repaired and reset windows. Im thinking new smartshift laptops will come in 2021, could plz make a video to set linux up with smartshift laptops?
@ddelin100
@ddelin100 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, the damn pci reset problems taken care of!
@franidk2014
@franidk2014 3 жыл бұрын
Dang i just grabbed one of these and to see this is amazing. I think imma get a second nvme drive and dual boot Linux this time.
@EdoDijkgraaf
@EdoDijkgraaf 3 жыл бұрын
I never gamed, never will. But you make it something I almost want to do. Btw, that crocodile thing, that was something Southern. Right?
@PlanetFrosty
@PlanetFrosty 3 жыл бұрын
Great job!
@orcbloodtech422
@orcbloodtech422 3 жыл бұрын
Call me when Wayland becomes mainstream with easy to use Freesync support. I'll be hanging over on Windows in the meantime. Really cool how far we've come though! Cant' wait to ditch Windows.
@sligit
@sligit 3 жыл бұрын
12 years now... Jeez.
@orcbloodtech422
@orcbloodtech422 3 жыл бұрын
​@@sligit I mean it's open source so safe to assume it's built with volunteer work & no definitive leadership or straight forward direction. Seems to be getting there though!
@sligit
@sligit 3 жыл бұрын
@@orcbloodtech422 Sure I don't mean to rag on anyone it's just frustrating.
@orcbloodtech422
@orcbloodtech422 3 жыл бұрын
@@sligit I agree.
@NanescuRadu1
@NanescuRadu1 3 жыл бұрын
for now i just got the ryzen 7 5800x and and asus prime x570 board and will use my existing rx580 card can't wait to set it up cause its on my desk in boxes :D
@stephanepiquemal8297
@stephanepiquemal8297 3 жыл бұрын
I'll hold my money until the drivers situation evolved on the MESA side though. While Wendell is very enthusiastic, he didn't mention the support for other distros is not quite there. You need at least a 5.9 kernel which is not deployed everywhere, as well as the very last MESA branch if you want all the early fix to support this card. Sadly AMD didn't send any card to distro maintainers or MESA devs while they are "flooding" youtubers and influencers with 6800 and 6800XT models :/
@098751thg
@098751thg 3 жыл бұрын
By the time "we" are able to lay our hands on one of these cards, this may no longer be an issue
@stephanepiquemal8297
@stephanepiquemal8297 3 жыл бұрын
@starshipeleven Not RADV
@richterman3962
@richterman3962 3 жыл бұрын
Just got 5700xt. I have absolutely no problems with it :) and I'm on arch
@tommihommi1
@tommihommi1 3 жыл бұрын
Now the wait begins for affordable RDNA2 cards. I finally want something to replace my RX480 that makes sense to buy at the same price point.
@Cynyr
@Cynyr 3 жыл бұрын
basically in the same boat. I don't want to spend $200 on what is a 5+ year old GPU at this point. I'll likely end up getting a 6500 or 6600, or whatever is the $150-$250 6000 series card when those are available.
@Mysteoa
@Mysteoa 3 жыл бұрын
Check out next week when AIB cards go for sale.
@joejane9977
@joejane9977 3 жыл бұрын
what has happened in the last hundred years is amazing as radio was the latest and greatest 100 years ago. On 31 August 1920 the first known radio news program was by station 8MK
@tokiomitohsaka7770
@tokiomitohsaka7770 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll definitely get a 6000 series AMD GPU, looking forward to see the budget cards of this family.
@rdsii64
@rdsii64 3 жыл бұрын
My system is pretty modest compared to a lot of whats out there today. I run a 1950X with an RX5600XT in 4U rackmount chassis.
@milchkopf3881
@milchkopf3881 3 жыл бұрын
nice. thx for the content
@SleepyRulu
@SleepyRulu 3 жыл бұрын
I cant wait to upgrade from 580 to 6800 I am very happy now.
@platin2148
@platin2148 3 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing, we should really get some people with vision on the side with wayland.
@jothain
@jothain 3 жыл бұрын
Cool. I mostly run Windows and been intending to get new card for entertainment and cad. Greens apparently are better for cad, but heck. AMD is on a roll and delivered so well that I think I'm going to get Radeon. Earlier this year already upgraded to Ryzen and it's been ages since I've had "red system". Quickly thinking 9800pro I think was a thing those days and it isn't exactly fresh news 😀
@porterneon
@porterneon 3 жыл бұрын
What about ROCm support for those cards? Can it be used for machine learning under linux?
@World_Theory
@World_Theory 3 жыл бұрын
Should I get the money, I will certainly try my best to acquire one of these or similar AMD cards, along with one of the recent AMD CPUs. The reason being, that I want a really dang good Linux computer for VR and possibly getting into character modeling in Blender. I don't expect the things I want to do on the computer to actually need such amazing performance. Maybe half of it. But it might come in useful, and it would be nice to have a computer that will last many years. I expect my VR use case might be a bit odd, as I only ever expect I would want to use two or three VR programs. I'd kinda like to try Beat Saber, but despite looking like a lot of fun, I wouldn't be too fussed to never play it. Another program is VRChat, but I think the only compelling reason to use it is for a comparison experience, and the one or two of the communities of users there. I think that despite the number of users for VRChat growing, it's actually going to go into decline some time in the next three years. The reason for that, is that I expect Neos VR to replace it. Neos VR is what I expect I would spend the majority of my time using. It's marketed as a Metaverse engine, because it's essentially designed to put people into a VR environment and give them powerful tools to make things. It can be whatever you want it to be. What I think most people will use it for is social VR. But Neos VR has the ability to edit nearly everything you see without exiting, and I only expect this to get better, because from all that I've heard, Neos VR is one of those applications that will continue to be developed indefinitely. There is already a strong community of creators using Neos as a platform to create things. Neos has a visual programming system, which has allowed users to create games, tools, and interactive environments. This is what I want to use Neos for. I'm a little bit out-of-my-mind enthusiastic for Neos, so please bear with me… To me, its the coolest thing since I learned to read. It is, in my opinion, the end goal of VR technology. Have you ever heard of Second Life? Imagine that, but done right. There is even a currency you can use to buy and sell things with, which I believe is based on the cryptocurrency Etherium. And there is a content ID system and virtual marketplace planned for people to use for buying and selling what they make. When I look at the updates since its launch, they've been frequent and significant. I'm pretty sure that the developers are working on Neos as a full time job. Did I mention that it's free? It's supported entirely through donations. The only reason I think it hasn't replaced VRChat right now, is because its desktop mode is currently still just a leftover development tool from the early days of its development, if I understand correctly, and doesn't fully support everything. But like many things, a proper desktop mode is somewhere on the roadmap. And pretty soon if I had to guess, as the development team have been focusing on usability and new user experience updates recently. I think that once Neos has a desktop mode, and slightly better new user experience, there will no longer be a barrier for adoption by VRChat users. My reasoning is, VRChat is also exclusively a social VR game, and roughly half the users play without any VR. So if a VR user wants to use Neos as a social VR game, they need to convince their friends to use it too. But if the desktop mode is terrible, roughly half their friends won't be able to play. Which means Neos isn't a good place to hang out with your friends. But that changes once Neos supports desktop users fully. Creating things and social VR aren't the only things people are interested in Neos for. There have been several educational institutions exploring Neos as a tool for teaching. One interesting example I saw was a geology teacher creating a world in Neos to provide a better alternative to field trips. He had a working versions of the geological survey tools used in the field, recreated in Neos. He even imported a high poly count 3D scan of a large rock, to demonstrate how to do field work. Another interesting use of Neos was by a town in Germany or Austria-I can't remember which, sorry-that was planning to build a bridge over a river, but they needed to vote between three different designs. So someone decides to recreate the bridge and surrounding area in Neos, and hold an event in the town where residents could come in and look at the choices in VR. This lead to a pretty big turnout, and according to a previous survey, it actually changed people's votes, because the bridges looked different as 2D images compared to 3D, and some problems were spotted in 3D that weren't noticed as 2D illustrations. I thought that was pretty cool when I heard about it… But uh… I've been letting this get just a bit too long, so… If anyone wants to hear more, you can ask me, I'll probably respond if like, 2 years haven't passed since I posted this comment or something. Or you can look up stuff on your own. The creator, cofounder, and main programmer of Neos "Frooxius" has a KZbin channel that they post Neos VR related content to, like news on updates, recorded live streams from the official Twitch channel, and stuff related to other miscellaneous stuff like contests. Actually, they recently held a contest called the MMC which has videos on winners' entries posted separately from the rest of the video recording of the judging process. But like I just implied, the other entries are visible as part of a two part, extremely long video post. If you're looking for examples of what can be made in Neos, that's a good place to look. That full length, two part post is easily over 12 hours of footage combined though. I watched all of it, but it took me several days where I had to take breaks. No regrets! So that's it. Sorry if I went completely off topic… It has been happening a lot to me lately when something happens to drift too near the figurative gravity well of VR and Neos.
@phanbot0149
@phanbot0149 3 жыл бұрын
So glad for how well the AMD drivers have been intergrated in the Linux kernel. Attempts to use nvidia drivers mostly resulted in black screens upon rebooting the system after driver install. For AMD, it was set it and forget it. Just wish stock had been in more ample supply and purchasing a new card wasn't as difficult as finding a virgin at an orgy.
@mjarkk
@mjarkk 3 жыл бұрын
if only i could get my hands on one of these :)
@phoenixgaming211
@phoenixgaming211 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I will always stick with AMD when it comes to Linux and gaming everything just works!
@Sk3z
@Sk3z 3 жыл бұрын
6800 xt only appeared for 5 seconds in italy, but they where out of stock immediatly. 6800 was all they had, but i was lucky enough to catch a 5800x as they threw a few cpus in the sale. Frankly 6800 xt appears a paper launch as VEGA VII, only to showcase their progress to stock market. It looks both on NVIDIA and AMD are racing on paper, flexing for stock market, rather than selling what they can realistically deliver to the masses...
@QuimChaos
@QuimChaos 3 жыл бұрын
pliiiizzz more Level1Linux videos!
@jeschinstad
@jeschinstad 3 жыл бұрын
I think it could be a very enjoyable hour to watch a conversation between Anthony from LTT and Wendell from Level1.
@jamesnguyen
@jamesnguyen 3 жыл бұрын
First off thanks for these types of Linux reviews. I noticed you have an Intel NUC 9 Extreme in the background and that's what I'm running right now. Do you have any recommendations on video cards for the Intel NUC 9 Extreme that work out of the box for Fedora 33?
@NicholasLoomans
@NicholasLoomans 3 жыл бұрын
I have been more excited about these cards coming out than any hardware in 5 years
I owe AMD an apology...
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