Radeon RX 6950 XT or GeForce RTX 4070, Which $600~ GPU Should You Buy?

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Radeon RX 6950 XT or GeForce RTX 4070
00:00 - Welcome back to Hardware Unboxed
00:38 - Ad Spot
01:25 - Radeon RX 6950 XT
02:50 - Cyberpunk 2077
03:47 - Fortnite
04:27 - Far Cry 6
05:16 - Dying Light 2
06:00 - The Callisto Protocol
06:39 - Hitman 3
07:41 - Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
08:24 - Resident Evil 4
09:04 - Control
10:11 - F1 2022
11:17 - Hogwarts Legacy
12:10 - 1080p Average
12:47 - 1080p Ray Tracing Average
13:11 - 1440p Average
13:32 - 1440p Ray Tracing Average
13:51 - 4K Average
14:07 - 4K Ray Tracing Average
14:35 - Final Thoughts
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@PowellCat745
@PowellCat745 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully 7800XT can deliver 6950XT level performance with less power consumption. That will erase 4070’s advantages.
@dashkataey1740
@dashkataey1740 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully, it'll be around the same price as the 6950xt right now. If AMD can deliver that, it would be a massive advantage for them and might get people thinking of buying AMD over Nvidia this generation.
@user-ni3ik2fi1p
@user-ni3ik2fi1p Жыл бұрын
@@dashkataey1740 yeah also with the av1 encoding it will be the beast of mid range gpu
@danutghidia5820
@danutghidia5820 Жыл бұрын
@@dashkataey1740 idk about yours, but in my country 7900xt is the same price as 6950xt
@user-ni3ik2fi1p
@user-ni3ik2fi1p Жыл бұрын
@@dashkataey1740 and just imagine if it deliver 20 gb vram it will bee amazing i think i will save some money from now
@Eihei
@Eihei Жыл бұрын
Well, the RDNA 3 performance is still weirdly inconsistent, and in places where 4070 has a lead in RT performance, i expect the 7800 to still lag behind 4070 :( too bad, I really like how RT looks in quite a few games that I actually play, especially Cyberpunk.
@mastroitek
@mastroitek Жыл бұрын
I can't even imagine the amount of work and patience behind these benchmark videos. Amazing job guys!!
@brodonamus
@brodonamus Жыл бұрын
yeah hubs videos are pretty awesome and they’re fantastically consistent.
@VoldoronGaming
@VoldoronGaming Жыл бұрын
@@Chasm9 competitive multiplayer gamers would use 1080p. Duh
@mastroitek
@mastroitek Жыл бұрын
@@Chasm9 I might be wrong, but I think they did a pool a while ago and ppl still wanted 1080p benchmarks for high end gpus.
@Romancedawn1
@Romancedawn1 Жыл бұрын
I can - ctrl+a ctrcl+c ctrl+v and 3 minutes of editing numbers to appear new. Jk obviously.
@Dr-Nonookie
@Dr-Nonookie Жыл бұрын
HUB is underrated, they need to break a million subs already. But fanboys on all sides dislike them because of their great work and it keeps their subs low.😐
@ed_ELA
@ed_ELA Жыл бұрын
Imagine If the 4070 was released as the 4060ti, and priced appropriately it would be flying off the shelves. Let's see what AMD has to offer next
@glordium1951
@glordium1951 Жыл бұрын
current amd gen doesnt have something similar to DLSS3 tho ..
@DeadNoob451
@DeadNoob451 Жыл бұрын
@@glordium1951 DLSS3 is no reason to overpay for underpowered hardware tho.
@MDxGano
@MDxGano Жыл бұрын
Why would the name matter when they've gone to a relative performance price model and the names just simply don't matter for the most part?
@MDxGano
@MDxGano Жыл бұрын
@@DeadNoob451 Isnt it 5% cheaper than the 6950xt?, uses about 100w less, averages around 15% slower in raster, 15% faster in RT, no mention of upscaling here because it is work and subjective numbers suck to present in an unbiased way. DLSS3 is actually pretty darn killer in Dying light 2, Witcher 3, and CP2077...like massively improves the experience of the games when playing with all the bells and whistles on. I said experience, not performance because there are those who will go "bah fake frames". Feels good to me on a 165hz monitor. The dual encoders alone are enough to overcome a 10% performance gap, let alone all the other addons you get going nvidia. Nvidia broadcast is probably the best "free" software i've ever used on a daily basis nvidias encoder is simply better than AMD's for streamers. You get a few other nibblets in the studio drivers like advanced face tracking for AR. All around nvidia, no matter how you slice it just has a better package right now albeit at the precipice of unacceptable vram levels.
@ed_ELA
@ed_ELA Жыл бұрын
@@MDxGano 4080 12 GB MSRP 899 renamed to 4070ti and priced at 799. Great example of naming inflation there.
@fAED_
@fAED_ Жыл бұрын
I own an Asrock Phantom Gaming D 6900 XT, which I purchased during last year's Black Friday sale for 699€. I am absolutely delighted with this GPU and its exceptional performance. The temperatures have been well within acceptable limits, with the core temperature not exceeding 83ºC and averaging around 75ºC. Over the past few months, I've had the opportunity to play several games on ULTRA without any upscaling, and I must say that the experience has been nothing short of amazing (1440p). Here are the average FPS I've achieved in some of these games: The Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves: 140-160 fps The Last of Us: Part I: 80-110 fps God of War (2018): 90-120 fps Call of Duty: MW II: 90-130 fps Diablo 4: Beta: 90-170 fps After six months of using the 6900 XT, I can confidently say that I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. I would recommend this GPU to anyone considering it. Additionally, I would like to mention that I am using a Cooler Master v850w gold v2 PSU, which has been performing flawlessly. It's a great choice for powering this graphics card. - Rocking it with a 5600x
@jrminate
@jrminate Жыл бұрын
I love my amd reference 6900xt as well, had 0 issues with it so far. It has even played every console port game like The Last of Us Part 1 and so on great from the get go on day 1 release when other brands were having major problems. I buy all manufacturers too btw. Hopefully nvidia 5000 series gpus will resolve the Vram Skimping. If Nvidia does start putting more vram in the next gen GPUS and the price is a little bit lower I may switch back to them. Until then I think the 6900xt or 6950xt with 16gb ram is a really good value. Your temps look good for that asrock 6900xt overclocked card, you could even probably keep it under 80C on all games if you went in and manually adjusted the fan curve a little more aggressive.
@fAED_
@fAED_ Жыл бұрын
@@jrminate Fan curve is adjusted manually. After 80ºC fan speed is set to 95%. (no OC on Adrenalin btw)
@Azraenore
@Azraenore Жыл бұрын
I'm not quite sure but that CPU might bottleneck the GPU.
@gjwestonable
@gjwestonable Жыл бұрын
I just managed to get Asrock Phantom 6950xt for £589 you even get last of us free. Fantastic card. I was going to get a 7900XTX but even that can't raytrace so just will save my £500 and bug a nice monitor.
@pauljanssen5331
@pauljanssen5331 Жыл бұрын
@@Azraenore not in 1440p and above
@chenzen4915
@chenzen4915 Жыл бұрын
I recently bought the RX 6950 XT. Loads of performance especially coming from an RX 480
@Elinzar
@Elinzar Жыл бұрын
Dam you went from a bicycle to a Lamborghini
@chenzen4915
@chenzen4915 Жыл бұрын
@@Elinzar no kidding, I really enjoyed that 480, but I really wanted an upgrade.
@abdullahnaeem7275
@abdullahnaeem7275 Жыл бұрын
damn brooo really big upgrade man like sheeeett
@TheTeeroy32
@TheTeeroy32 Жыл бұрын
I'm jelly, I went from a RX480 to a 2070 super and thought it was good. Nice upgrade dude.
@bravozero6
@bravozero6 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheTeeroy32 2070 super is really good. I have a 2070 super since launch and I'm looking to up grade but I think I'm waiting for price cuts
@mrm7
@mrm7 Жыл бұрын
As a 6900xt owner, I paid £700 for my card, I'm really impressed with the performance. I don't ever enable RT and TBF I don't think many gamers care about it either. For price, you can't beat AMD at the minute
@maximumclutch8113
@maximumclutch8113 Жыл бұрын
You don't enable it because you can't without having a poor experience. I'm sure you would feel differently about it if you had a card that was decent at ray tracing
@jonathonpion2042
@jonathonpion2042 Жыл бұрын
​@Maximum Clutch most people don't care about a niche feature that really does nothing but eat up resources and really does nothing to improve graphical quality. That said you waste your money on whatever you want.
@CBadger
@CBadger Жыл бұрын
I care about ray tracing and always have it enabled where I can. As Maximum Cluth says, if you had a card that could run it at high frame rates, your opinion would be very different. I'm sure if everyone had a 4090 level card (in 2 or 3 generations time) everyone will use ray tracing where they can.
@charekuu
@charekuu Жыл бұрын
well no shit you don't enable RT on RX 6000 series lol, their RT performance sucks
@PineyJustice
@PineyJustice Жыл бұрын
@@maximumclutch8113 A 6900xt will do around 60 fps in cyberpunk with FSR quality at 1440p, it's a playable experience, but still better just to have the higher framerate.
@djsnowpdx
@djsnowpdx Жыл бұрын
Steve, I really appreciate how you’ve been siloing the ray tracing results. I still think the majority of gamers don’t consider them relevant; the cost of entry for decent performance is still too high. For those who do, or those watching in the future or looking forward, you have that information all in one graph per resolution. Your graphs are the best, Steve!
@ImaITman
@ImaITman Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I usually buy the highest top end cards and I don't care for Ray Tracing. If I wanted to neuter my graphics performance by 20-30% I would just buy a cheaper card....
@agentoranj5858
@agentoranj5858 Жыл бұрын
Agreed; My old GTX 1070 could do anything non-RT but my new RX 6750 XT showed me that ultimately games are software-limited and more raster performance is just wasted on older games, and it also showed me that that RT really does give next-gen visuals but early RT games (not made by the legendary wizards of id Software) need more rendering power to get to 60fps @ 1440p. I learned a lot from my 6750 and I'm glad I didn't get burned from giving AMD a second chance.
@fist003
@fist003 Жыл бұрын
ray tracing is just a gimmick for me until all tier of GPU can turn it on with minimal penalty like AA nowadays
@agentoranj5858
@agentoranj5858 Жыл бұрын
@@fist003 "How does it perform in RT?" is the new "Can it run Crysis?"
@jskyg68
@jskyg68 Жыл бұрын
The problem with RT at the moment (imo) is 90% games with it were developed on nvidia hardware, notice how more recent games actually run as good or faster on AMD hardware?
@jamesyoung151
@jamesyoung151 Жыл бұрын
I purchased the 6950XT. I did seriously consider the 4070. I plan to keep the current system long term since I built it 6 months ago. I don't have any more plans to add any more parts at this time nor I have a need or want for RT. That is why I chose the 6950XT. If I did decide to purchase a card in the future, it will be a long distance future.
@misaelhp1
@misaelhp1 8 ай бұрын
I'm going to upgraded from 3070 Ti to 6950xt in few days, let see how works.
@jamesyoung151
@jamesyoung151 8 ай бұрын
@@misaelhp1Which card are you looking at? I have the PowerColor Red Devil. I went with that one because it fits my system theme. I had the Red Devil 6700XT in the system before I upgraded.
@misaelhp1
@misaelhp1 8 ай бұрын
@@jamesyoung151 I don't like power Color, on asus, XFX ore MSi in the same order.
@jamesyoung151
@jamesyoung151 8 ай бұрын
​@@misaelhp1 I can understand that, it's not for everyone.
@BetalerIkkeSkatt
@BetalerIkkeSkatt 7 ай бұрын
I was actually pleasantly surprised how well the 6950XT performs on raytracing. Even on Nvidia raytracing is barely possible without dlss/fsr. Though i aswell dont care much about raytracing and rarely use it.
@Thun777
@Thun777 Жыл бұрын
I ended up buying the 6950xt as it was the same price as the 4070 in Denmark, main reasons was the extra vram and better non RT performance. I feel like if you cared a lot about RT 12gb vram probably is not enough in a year or 2, so next stop is the 4080 at twice the price, if the 4070 had 16gb vram I would have bought that
@Thun777
@Thun777 Жыл бұрын
@SoundwaveSinus9 I’m still happy with the choice ;-)
@cybervoid8442
@cybervoid8442 Жыл бұрын
@SoundwaveSinus9 most nvidia users use dlss with RT. So effectively better at giving a good RT experience than 6950xt
@ctgaming168
@ctgaming168 Жыл бұрын
​@@cybervoid8442 And those same people can use FSR to help improve fps when using RT. More Vram on AMD is so much better than crippled Nvidia cards. I have both a 3070 and RX 6800, the 3070 is unusable in most new games.
@azure2137
@azure2137 Жыл бұрын
​@@Thun777 For Europe and especially Denmark RTX 4070 is a strong contender to 6950XT because of electricity is very expensive 200W more in power consumption is around 213 kWh a year if you game 3 hours a day over a year if I am not wrong electricity is around 3-4 DKK for 1 kWh in Denmark so 6950XT will cost 639-852 DKK more to use over a year compared to RTX 4070.
@azure2137
@azure2137 Жыл бұрын
@@arthurmorgan6353 3-4 DKK (Danish Krone) is around 0.4 - 0.54 Euro or 0.44 - 0.58 USD
@Bogdan00
@Bogdan00 Жыл бұрын
The 6950XT is not that far behind even in raytracing, and good luck using RT with 12GB VRAM in the next couple of years.
@JoeMaranophotography
@JoeMaranophotography Жыл бұрын
Shadows to high and textures. Done simple
@charlesmiv3842
@charlesmiv3842 Жыл бұрын
I think DLSS and Frame Generation are much better than RT. That's why I went with Nvidia.
@PackardKotch
@PackardKotch Жыл бұрын
Why buy a new nvidia card if you have to drop settings?
@JoeMaranophotography
@JoeMaranophotography Жыл бұрын
@Nugget YT6 Cos I don't have to right now. Its inevitable that in 2 years time you aren't going to be running AAA games at Max RT
@Drip7914
@Drip7914 Жыл бұрын
@@charlesmiv3842 so u like playing at lower res and fake frames which DECREASE performanc (increase of latency(l) and induce artifacts ☠️☠️☠️
@DishonoredDuck
@DishonoredDuck Жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Always appreciate the detailed evaluation of both GPUs in videos like these. I think the energy consumption could be somewhat further talked about as to what influence it has on the total cost of running the GPU in a typical lifespan of 4/5 years. I know it depends on A LOT of factors, but I think it really shows what financial impact a higher power consumption could have and how important efficiency is.
@JanLe82
@JanLe82 Жыл бұрын
Yup, reviewers (and customers) really need to stress power consumption more. A 150 Watt difference is insane, make no mistake that's *hundreds* of dollars on your energy bill over the card's lifetime. Then again the 4070s 12GB is garbage too, you'll start turning down textures on a 600$ card in 2 years. It's an impossible choice. Wait for 7800 (XT) imo.
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 11 ай бұрын
not even just in 2 years, even now some games like Hogwarts Legacy literally run out of VRAM on the 4070 in 4k RT, that will just become more common as time passes @@JanLe82
@ViolenceCity
@ViolenceCity Жыл бұрын
Great vid. The 6950 handled the non RTX stuff effortlessly. If I do end up building another machine this year I might go with this for the games that inexplicably run like crap on Nvidia.
@mudgie0205
@mudgie0205 Жыл бұрын
UPDATE: Just got an email stating my order is processed. Likely will arrive earlier than the expected date yet still the product page says it's 'coming soon' I ordered a Red Devil 6950 XT on Ebuyer here in the UK for £620 on May 5th. I was expecting it to arrive on May 12 when stock would replenish, however it's been delayed until 26th May since restock isn't always 100% accurate according to support team. So if you want one in the UK and can't find one elsewhere for the time being, keep an eye out for Powercolor's RD 6950 XT on 26th May
@michaelmonstar4276
@michaelmonstar4276 Жыл бұрын
I purchased two AMD ones no problem and they're still in stock. In The Netherlands however... Second one was from a different store for less, so the first one has to go back. XD
@mudgie0205
@mudgie0205 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmonstar4276 they told me I could cancel and order one of the others in stock but I thought it might be worth the extra power over the other models so I can wait. Something to look forward to 😂
@reapergaming380
@reapergaming380 Жыл бұрын
​@@mudgie0205 same waiting on mine from ebuyer too, but didn't know it was delayed till the 26th. Might just buy it from Overclockers and bite the bullet of £8 next day delivery
@mudgie0205
@mudgie0205 Жыл бұрын
@@reapergaming380 the listing only says ‘coming soon’ so that’s what led me to call them up
@redrock425
@redrock425 Жыл бұрын
I got one from ebuyer. Great card.
@bmdshred77
@bmdshred77 Жыл бұрын
Easy choice. 7900 xt. Wait for $700 price tag. Got mine for $779 and it’s been fantastic
@danutghidia5820
@danutghidia5820 Жыл бұрын
in my country 7900xt is the same price as 6950xt
@EarthIsFlat456
@EarthIsFlat456 Жыл бұрын
lol you should've got the 7900XTX but I understand money is an issue 🤣
@bmdshred77
@bmdshred77 Жыл бұрын
@@EarthIsFlat456 when I got the 7900xt the xtx was still hard to find and selling for $1100 ish. But yea now xtx can be had for $979 at times. I game at 1440p tho so 7900xt is perfect
@mrpositronia
@mrpositronia Жыл бұрын
​@@EarthIsFlat456 case size and PSU limitations considered, of course.
@Ale55andr082
@Ale55andr082 Жыл бұрын
point is: 700 WHEN? or even IF....
@orwellchu
@orwellchu Жыл бұрын
Reading the comments feels like 9 out of 10 would choose that 6950XT?! 400W power draw with 20ms spikes up to 550W. High power even when doing basic tasks, watching youtube or just having more than one monitor. Gaming performance is one thing but at what cost ?!
@kingwein89
@kingwein89 Жыл бұрын
If you're spending over 500 dollars on a GPU I'm pretty sure the power bill is of little concern. Frame rates, rasterization, vram, price > RT, DLSS, power efficiency.
@anthonyholmes5965
@anthonyholmes5965 Жыл бұрын
From what I’ve seen most people shopping in this price range aren’t worried about ray tracing so the 6950 seems to be the better deal here for price to performance.
@orcusdei
@orcusdei Жыл бұрын
If you have it only for gaming, then yes... The other thing is CUDA cores, since they affect not just ray tracing, but other factors like loading of the environment and everything. The other issue is, that in many countries the 6950 XT cost at least 30% more than 4070 or it isn't available at all. For example in my country i can buy 4070 for 700 USD - and I get Diablo 4 for free yet the cheapest shittiest 6950 XT is for 780 USD. And last thing is that if you have SFF PC, any AMD card is off the table :D But that is a different story :D
@vuri3798
@vuri3798 Жыл бұрын
We don't, but "normies" do, as we acquire knowledge we tend to forget that people still don't exactly know what they're buying, we're the ones in a bubble. Heck, you go on reseller's pages you see plenty people wanting to buy the 3050 because "rtx", asking if that's a good choice. You explain to them in details why it's not, and they're like "but....". Then a random dude pops and tell them "I get 100+ fps on (Insert Valorant or any esport title)", and congrats you just wasted some time, they'll act as if it's the better and only deal since they just wanted to feel validated for their bad spending💀 That being said, I find this one to be a tough choice, it really depends on your situation I guess. The 4070 really is an easy upgrade, the 6950xt might not. If you still play in 1080p, have to buy another PSU, or live in a country in which electricity bills can be a sensitive subject... Then the 6950xt might not be the same budget all things considered
@jskyg68
@jskyg68 Жыл бұрын
@@orcusdei "CUDA cores" nvidia marketing term for stream processors/shaders...... Amd and intel has them too....12 gigs Vram is pathetic at that price.
@orcusdei
@orcusdei Жыл бұрын
@@jskyg68 That is nice in theory, but this is the reality: "For Windows and Linux, Redshift currently only supports CUDA-compatible NVidia GPUs." This goes for majority of graphic engines. They can "emulate" the AMD or Intel to CUDA core, but it's for the price of performance. Every single benchmark confirms this. And these benchmarks don't look on how fast the environment is loading, only on RTX FPS. At the end of the day, you will have a better texture detail, but slower card with Radeon. And by "slower" i don't mean just FPS, but the sole processing power which is subpar to Nvidia. So if you only play games, you may or may not benefit from the 16 gbs but if you want to do anything else, it's a worse card for more money that only benefit few extra FPS. And most reviewers confirm that. You can easily get these few FPS from somewhere else.
@jskyg68
@jskyg68 Жыл бұрын
@@orcusdei It's driver based not hardware, Graphics cards all do the same thing the main differences are the architectures not hardware. They have to be or the game industry would have to make separate versions of games to run on different cards......
@thefurmidablecatlucky3
@thefurmidablecatlucky3 Жыл бұрын
before the 4070 was released the 3070Ti and 6950XT were selling for the same price, that's just absolutely ridiculous .. Nvidia is smoking crack for sure
@virtualinsanity7791
@virtualinsanity7791 Жыл бұрын
They really want that crypto miners bag so bad it's almost funny.
@RFKG
@RFKG Жыл бұрын
NVIDIA asking for the same price is completely understandable. What really puzzles me is people actually paying this price, and coping with "it has better RT performance", when 80% of cards in the NVIDIA lineup can't really deal with the performance blow that is turning RT on. And that's not even mentioning how disappointing it is in like 9 out of 10 games that implemented it. The problem is in the consumer.
@GodisGood941
@GodisGood941 Жыл бұрын
@@RFKG nvidia was asking for the same price because people were stupid enough to actually pay for it when there were other options. Most of them dont even use rt because its still unusable in most games at the resolution people who use it want to play at.
@honkhonkler7732
@honkhonkler7732 Жыл бұрын
​​@@RFKG True, everyone that says they went Nvidia for the ray tracing bought like a 3060 or 3070 which either aren't powerful enough anyways or are too starved for VRAM to use it lol
@gusfring96
@gusfring96 Жыл бұрын
Do you guys ever stop talking about the horrible pricing? Yes everyone knows it at this point. It's tiring seeing top comments regurgitate "overprice overprice overprice" instead of actually discussing what's on the video.
@KryssN1
@KryssN1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for good content like always, on point! Would love to see some graphics during the Conclusion that visualise the points you make. Cheers!
@janizzkar
@janizzkar Жыл бұрын
Already bought and installed my 6950xt last week. Noo regrets whatsoever. Upgraded from a 3060ti.
@jasonhenninger8220
@jasonhenninger8220 Жыл бұрын
You guys rock. Really appreciate all your efforts and insights.
@alun1038
@alun1038 Жыл бұрын
The 6950 XT is the best affordable card for a plain rasterised 4K experience without RT
@RJ-vy4yd
@RJ-vy4yd Жыл бұрын
Why would anyone want to play in non-RT 4K instead of RT+DLSS is beyond me.
@stanislavkimov2779
@stanislavkimov2779 Жыл бұрын
@@RJ-vy4yd you need Nvidia for RT, and the only good Nvidia option is 4090. For 4K RT you need at least 4080, which is bad value. I see no point in RT yet with Nvidia's approach. AMD's GPUs for raster performance are the only adequate choice if you don't want to spend more than 1K on a GPU.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Жыл бұрын
But if I'm spending freakin' 600-700$, I would want some sweet RT visuals.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Жыл бұрын
@@stanislavkimov2779 Your comment is pretty senseless. 4070Ti can do 4K RT with DLSS. Intel can also do very good RT. RTX 3000 can also do good RT. You don't need 4090 unless you want 4K with zero upscaling + absolutely maxed out RT + High refresh rate experience.
@duckilythelovely3040
@duckilythelovely3040 Жыл бұрын
Not really, with FG i'm doubling my FPS over a 6950xt. I have a 4070, and a 4080 as well
@cjsrandomstuff
@cjsrandomstuff Жыл бұрын
I think given nvidia's bs lately, I'd go for the RX 6950 XT.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Жыл бұрын
double power consumption no DLSS terrible RT no frame generation and on top of that it's 30-40$ extra AMD fanboys on a roll smh
@ComputerProfessor
@ComputerProfessor Жыл бұрын
​​@@GewelReal This is coming from a 4090 user... You need to stop being a fanboy of any company. I can't care about ray tracing performance as in a couple of years it'll age like milk. DLSS should be a plus for lower-end stuff. If the person who posted this is spending over $200 on a GPU and the power bill is a concern they shouldn't be considering these cards. Go integrated if it's a concern because you shouldn't go broke building a computer or buying if you can't afford the power bill. In most of the USA it'll only be a small difference anyway Taking a look at PCpartpicker they're about the same price. I would spend a little extra on the 6950 xt.
@Purjo92
@Purjo92 Жыл бұрын
I went used RTX 3060 12 GB and will never ever buy any Nvidia products new, so they never get any money from my pockets. I love their products, but f*ck their anti-consumer BS. Hope AMD will gain more market share eventually and start competing hard like they did with Zen 1 vs. Intel 300 USD quad-core monopoly.
@gabrielst527
@gabrielst527 Жыл бұрын
@@GewelReal you have FSR RT is a gimmick, until we get more proper pathtracing games like portal 2 that nobody can run right now, so we need like 5 years at a minimum frame generation at the moment adds a lot of input lag, that's not good at all, we will see how both companies address that. So yeah we get much more rasterization performance with more VRAM, no reason at all to buy the Nvidia product.
@HardwareAccent
@HardwareAccent Жыл бұрын
@@GewelReal You are correct, but it's almost meaningless when you are running out of VRAM. The 4070 would mop the floor with the 6950XT if it had 16GB.
@williamscott6209
@williamscott6209 7 ай бұрын
During Black Friday sales, both of these GPU's were at the exact same price where I live. I opted for the 6950 XT. I don't care much about RT performance and I don't stream, so the significantly better rasterized performance of the 6950 XT was a no-brainer for me.
@lv83bloodknight
@lv83bloodknight 7 ай бұрын
I did the same thing!
@Jesse__21
@Jesse__21 7 ай бұрын
Just picked a steal of a 4k monitor and need a gpu. the 6950xt reference card is 599 at my microcenter, do i do it?!
@williamscott6209
@williamscott6209 7 ай бұрын
@@Jesse__21 definitely a capable 4k card, I'd say go for it
@Zoltan74
@Zoltan74 8 ай бұрын
Everyone is looking at price/ fps, but that's not the only important aspect! The 4070 is a 200 watt card, very often it consumes around 160-180watts /depends on the game/! I like my card to be as efficient as possible, cool and safe to run, not heating the cpu, and the gpu hot spot around 65-70 degrees! I like it that way! ...and if the machine is quiet as night! For me this is as important as the price/fps result for others! Also, I do 3D editing and rendering in Blender /hobby/, and the 200 watt 4070 is much faster, so it's not necessarily reasonable for everyone to go with what's cheaper! Not because the power is expensive, but for other reasons already mentioned! In addition, wherever possible, I turn on the RT function, it's basic for me! The lights are much more realistic!
@griftgfx
@griftgfx 11 ай бұрын
an extra 4 gigs of VRAM is pretty useful if you use your GPU for any non-gaming GPU compute task, but CUDA brings its own strengths there, and unfortunately the combination of CUDA and VRAM is basically unobtainable unless you buy a friggin 4090
@blenderalien
@blenderalien 10 ай бұрын
You spoke my heart random stranger
@Adri9570
@Adri9570 8 ай бұрын
- 4060Ti: my 16GB are a joke to you? - Everyone: XDDDDDDDD do we really have to answer that?
@benacker8525
@benacker8525 Жыл бұрын
If you're doing some 3D work, streaming or video editing I think RTX4070 makes perfect sense. 3D modeling and animation work much much better on nVidia hardware. I had 2080Ti it died, then I got RX6950xt for 770e and it's been amazing ever since, I keep gaining FPS with new driver updates. AMD software is solid, never had a blue or black screen. It would be nice to compare these GPUs again in 2year period. RayTracing was never a good feature for me due massive performance cuts. Great Video.
@fy7589
@fy7589 Жыл бұрын
Well done Steve. I like your representation of these comparisons, totally objective and not emotional. Good job!
@EpicListening7
@EpicListening7 Жыл бұрын
I bought rx 6950 xt for like 550€, and i think for that money it can't be beat. I didn't expect such a massive boost coming from a 1080ti. With undervolt it has even better performance for some reason. Technical City helped me with his video on this one.
@hankhillsurethra
@hankhillsurethra 11 ай бұрын
I’m happy to see this. I just got an xfx merc 6950xt and the parts to build a new rig and I’m coming from an old i7 7700 with 1080ti too
@LBenn302
@LBenn302 9 ай бұрын
@@hankhillsurethraproud new 6950xt 7700x ddr5-6000 owner here 🫡
@Hubwood
@Hubwood Жыл бұрын
Would have loved to see a section dedicated to Power Consumption and Efficiency!
@Hubwood
@Hubwood Жыл бұрын
@SoundwaveSinus9 I don't think amd was the efficiency King. If I remember it right the 3070 was pretty much the most efficient card? Might be wrong though. Also a 4070 undervolted to 150w still gives you 98%. I have to admit I don't know how well the 6950xt can be undervolted.
@sadssadsa5944
@sadssadsa5944 Жыл бұрын
@SoundwaveSinus9 no its not a clear 4000 series win at all. u can enable sam and undevolt it gaining loads in perfromance for 150w less power draw meaning it reaches the 4070. so no. u cant undervolt nvidia gpus and gain performance thats what u do with amd. so back to the cave u troll.
@Flaschenteufel
@Flaschenteufel Жыл бұрын
@SoundwaveSinus9 maybe because of the war many countries are very expensive regarding electricity in europe rn....? just a wild guess
@Lemard77
@Lemard77 Жыл бұрын
@@Hubwood 3070 was the most efficient 3000 card as it wasn't pushed to the max, but the RX 6800 was a bit more efficient than it as it was a bit faster and only consumed 10-20W more. The 3060 / 3070 Ti / 3080 / 3090 were beaten by their 6000 series counterparts in efficiency for the most part.
@niebuhr6197
@niebuhr6197 Жыл бұрын
​@SoundwaveSinus9 last gen AMD wasnt more efficient, they had very incomplete power readings, unlike Nvidia.
@tk72231968
@tk72231968 Жыл бұрын
I'm unhappy with the BS that Nvidia has been up to, so I lean AMD if I had to buy right now. Also, the VRAM is a key in useful lifetime for a GPU.
@RJ-vy4yd
@RJ-vy4yd Жыл бұрын
But AMD is doing exactly the same BS as Nvidia. They both just price their new cards so bad to force people into buying their old GPUs without really discounting them that much. Literally the only anyhow reasonably priced card this generation is 4090 but yeah, it's not a GPU for everyone. My point is AMD isn't any better than Nvidia here so it's ridiculous to hear people repeating such BS like "Nvidia bad AMD good".
@AlexRubio
@AlexRubio Жыл бұрын
​@@RJ-vy4yd let's be honest ngreeda has done worse.
@AlexRubio
@AlexRubio Жыл бұрын
@@wiLdchiLd2k huh,
@No-One.321
@No-One.321 Жыл бұрын
​@@wiLdchiLd2k seriously, what the hell did you just try to say?
@No-One.321
@No-One.321 Жыл бұрын
@@BETEP-gw7qp tell us you are a troll without telling us! What are you talking about future proofing? 12gb of vram isn't enough vram already let alone in the future. And if you are really having these problems the issue is not the gpu since you've used 2 completely different GPUs.
@phillipvorndran6531
@phillipvorndran6531 10 ай бұрын
Great video, I decided to keep watch on the 6950 xt after watching this and just bought the 6950 xt for under $600 on sale at Amazon (8/19). That and Starfield bundle make it a no brainer over the 4070 as I don't care about Ray Tracing at this point. Should hold me over for a few years before I start considering a completely new pc build. Thanks for the video!
@lennylennington
@lennylennington Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you lads. Your hard work is precious. Thank you
@redracer2797
@redracer2797 Жыл бұрын
Glad to find a video with this specific content. I have freesync monitors & so obviously i wanted an AMD gpu... i got the RX 6950 XT for $600 on newegg. Now they're $650. still a great deal. The performance lost when enabling ray tracing was just a huge turn off. I personally don't care for power efficiency so i went with the 6950. But definitely a good video with great points :)
@TheMoneyhats
@TheMoneyhats Жыл бұрын
Very good analysis, could have been interesting to see some RT results at different presets rather than RT always on high. I think many of the gamers that use RT don't use it on high/ultra, so at moderate levels the performance between the two could be quite similar.
@Hellafast2uDude
@Hellafast2uDude Жыл бұрын
the main feature of the 4xxx series dlss3 - nah we will compare as if it does not exist
@craeshendo
@craeshendo 9 ай бұрын
These videos have been great. Not only for deciding on which series of GPU, but the quality of the manufacturers with cooling and noise in mind. I'm eyeing a 4070 and deciding on one to get and these ur videos really helped me pin one down.
@walter274
@walter274 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comprehensive video.
@807800
@807800 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see what RX 7800 would offer. Although, it looks like it would be quite a while for that.
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Жыл бұрын
I am loathed to care because I already know it's gonna be overpriced, even is it's just better by 2%.
@JurgenSchober42
@JurgenSchober42 Жыл бұрын
I am actually curious where this will fit into. I hope the can make this a 2 slot card, and I think if it sits between the 6950XT which I think it should beat and improve RT I might have to look into that. I guess unless they run out of 6800xt/69x0xt it'll be $699, though. So, I probably will wait until it'll be $599 (or $649). My guess is 7700XT @ 6800xt level for $499, leave the $600 bracket for the 6900xts and the 649-699 for the 7800xt (16GB, faster than 6950 and much better RT plus less power usage). I'd be surprised if it'll be $599
@frshunter
@frshunter Жыл бұрын
Great job as always! If I was going to buy a card this expensive I would lean to more ram and raster performance.
@agentoranj5858
@agentoranj5858 Жыл бұрын
It's fun reading comments, a lot of people say they value raster and once I would have agreed but actually owning a modern card has changed my perspective. I haven't personally seen much of a performance uplift in the games I play most (TF2, Halo MCC PC, Insurgency, Deep Rock Galactic) from upgrading my GTX 1070 to a RX 6750 XT, but playing Doom Eternal and Ghostrunner has converted me from being curious about RT to being seriously interested in RT performance when considering my next upgrade. However, VRAM convinced me to pick the RX 6750, and Nvidia's stinginess on that front is making their offerings look underwhelming as upgrades over the 6750.
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 Жыл бұрын
​@@agentoranj5858the games you play most would run great on a 3060 honestly, anything more than that is just for the next games you might play. going from 200fps to 300 just isnt a noticeable improvement. definitely hit diminishing returns there
@zwacki222
@zwacki222 Жыл бұрын
This was yery informative! Thank you very much!
@dianaalyssa8726
@dianaalyssa8726 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much. I've been thinking about these.
@daxitron
@daxitron Жыл бұрын
While I highly enjoy the 1080,1440, & 4K graphs... is it possible to get a single graph for VR with these (or similar) cards sometime? It makes the VRAM differences WAY more important, but it'd be interesting to see how a wide range of GPUs perform when having the increased load of VR gaming is added on top. Sure small market, but even a quick 30s snippet would be cool. -> Someone who bought a 6950XT recently after running a 3070, since the 16GB vs 8GB of VRAM made a world of difference in VR capture/gaming.
@Beltalowda666
@Beltalowda666 5 ай бұрын
I have a 3070 myself and I'm eyeballing the 6950, just wanted to follow up to see how you're liking it?
@daxitron
@daxitron 5 ай бұрын
@@Beltalowda666 I've had no issues so far. It improves the headroom for the graphics and I find VR stutters a LOT less now. Even under taxing loads.
@DailyCorvid
@DailyCorvid Жыл бұрын
Aww can't complain something cool to watch :) Nice one bruddas. Big love from the UK.
@snowdawn
@snowdawn Жыл бұрын
Very good comparison and review. Thank you so much Steve :)
@mazuscrow1983
@mazuscrow1983 Жыл бұрын
awesome video like always :D
@BPMa14n
@BPMa14n Жыл бұрын
What a great review video. This is l the toughest decision someone looking to get a GPU around that price can make right now. I hope the 6950 xt sells well so Nvidia will reduce prices or at least ship their cards with 16GB vram
@aotrieu4234
@aotrieu4234 Жыл бұрын
Great work as always HB. Insane amount of time and effort
@catwrangler420
@catwrangler420 Жыл бұрын
Im really enjoying these reviews/comparisons that go over traditional rasterization and then when ray tracing is turned on. This is what most gamners are looking for.
@Ebilcake
@Ebilcake Жыл бұрын
They could have gone a lot further, most users of these cards will be enabling DLSS... lots more work though I guess.
@pju28
@pju28 Жыл бұрын
Good work as always! Thumbs up for your video 👍
@saikousocial
@saikousocial Жыл бұрын
A 16GB 4070 would be the ideal GPU for me. I would be completely content with buying that and keeping it until the day it dies.
@telemaq76
@telemaq76 Жыл бұрын
for me too !
@SweatyFeetGirl
@SweatyFeetGirl Жыл бұрын
rtx 4070 ti should be the rtx 4070 and it should have 16gb vram at 500$. nvidia is just milking people with 12gb 600$ 4070(4060)
@Derael
@Derael Жыл бұрын
​@@SweatyFeetGirlI mean, you could say this, put considering last year prices, they know they can get away with it this year. 4070 costs 600, and it's comparable to 3080 Ti which was going for 1200+ last year. So 50% price drop is already good enough for a lot of people who were holding on buying a new GPU. But it's likely that prices will drop some more in the near future, so waiting for the 4060 Ti 16 GB version might be a better idea. If 4070 had 16 GB, I would grab it for 600$ without batting an eye, but as is, I'll wait a bit more, perhaps 4060 Ti will be a better option.
@irispettson
@irispettson Жыл бұрын
Yup, they were very close to having a very compelling product, but instead cheapened out on the VRAM, which is a dealbreaker for a card that expensive.
@nipa5961
@nipa5961 Жыл бұрын
@@Derael The 4070 barely ties the 3080 in performance which was 700 3 years ago. In pure raster performance it loses to the 6800XT which as 650 3 years ago. Very disappointing.
@DeenSalazar
@DeenSalazar Жыл бұрын
I had a coupon from micro center last month that let me get a reference 6950xt for just $600! My budget for a GPU was $700, so I was super pleased. At that price, the alternatives in store were only the 6800xt, and the rtx 3070ti, both of which were more expensive than my $600 coupon. The rtx 4070 was still nearly $1000 off the shelf.
@howsikl8594
@howsikl8594 Жыл бұрын
Hey what power supply is needed for 6950xt and what processor do you have
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 11 ай бұрын
depends on your processor, but I'd say a high quality 850 W power supply should be more than sufficient @@howsikl8594
@SirPunch2Face
@SirPunch2Face 9 ай бұрын
​@@howsikl8594If you have an 850W power supply, you should be good.
@TheCoolLama
@TheCoolLama Жыл бұрын
Great objective review as always, appreciate it a lot. I agree with your valuation at the end as well.
@stronkveak5917
@stronkveak5917 Жыл бұрын
also big thx for including 1080p!!!
@liquidcorundum6568
@liquidcorundum6568 Жыл бұрын
I would be interested in seeing a few power-normalized benchmark comparisons between these cards. A power limit and perhaps an undervolt could be applied to the RX 6950 XT for a same price, same power consumption comparison.
@naamadossantossilva4736
@naamadossantossilva4736 Жыл бұрын
That is dependent on silicon lottery,and HUB tends to avoid that.
@wojciechsiewior3868
@wojciechsiewior3868 Жыл бұрын
@@naamadossantossilva4736 It's also not a realistic buying criteria for most people. You either have the PSU to handle it or you don't. I doubt many gamers really look at their electric bill much as a decision maker for buying GPUs.
@slob12
@slob12 Жыл бұрын
​@@wojciechsiewior3868 ah but some do.......im in a dilema atm as i have a beautiful acer predator 1080p monitor which i m reluctant to swap out for a 1440p model....presently have a R7 5800X with 32gb 3600 ram......wondering how much my cpu will bottleneck the 6950xt at 1080p,how much stuttering would be experienced and how much an underclock and undervolt could be achieved to reduce stuttering. In the next couple of years i will have to upgrade the kids pcs due to MS ststem requirements for new windiws products and the 6950xt would age better...any thoughts folks?
@Ebilcake
@Ebilcake Жыл бұрын
You can undervolt the 4070 as well...
@wojciechsiewior3868
@wojciechsiewior3868 Жыл бұрын
@@slob12 I'm in a similar boat (CPU bottlenecking) with my i7-8700k and the ASRock OC 6950XT. Wonder how much performance there's left on the table.
@SpartanMunky546
@SpartanMunky546 Жыл бұрын
If it just had a slightly larger memory bus, 16GB of VRAM and was $550 it would probably be one of if not the value GPU of this generation
@CommandoTM
@CommandoTM Жыл бұрын
Cool, this really helped convince me in pull the trigger on a Sapphire HD 6950! Can't wait to get my hands on it soon!
@tofuguru941
@tofuguru941 Жыл бұрын
Sapphire 6950XT Pure OC owner here. Bought it when it cost more than it should have, but am not disappointed in having it for as long as i did and enjoying it for the joy it has given me thus far rather than wait. I run 1440p @ 240hz and nothing i throw at it is a problem at all. I dont care for Ray Tracing, and they can be underclocked to save wattage all while keeping 90% of the performance. When overclocked... You can def push it to gain another 10% but at the cost of a lot more watts (about 400 from the card itself). Thats great efficiency considering the 3090 that was out around the same time would use nearly 500w pegged, and cant keep up with the raster performance of the 6950xt at all. Great card and will stand the test of time easily.
@jonathanc1390
@jonathanc1390 Жыл бұрын
The performance hit is just too much when ray tracing is enabled for both cards
@TheDravic
@TheDravic Жыл бұрын
These benchmarks do not really consider DLSS3 which in practice puts 4070 in a position where raytracing performance is really great. Frame Generation is game changer. Even DLSS Super Resolution itself is FAR better than FSR2 at lower resolutions, you also can tweak it with DLSSTweaks, you can update the .dll...
@andrzejwysocki609
@andrzejwysocki609 Жыл бұрын
@João M. the only game my 3070 can do rt with well is prolly metro exodus and the ascent
@deltasca
@deltasca Жыл бұрын
@@TheDravic its so amazing that on jedi survivel you get a powerfull and amazing 2 fps boost . wow
@TheDravic
@TheDravic Жыл бұрын
@@deltasca Jedi Survivor is an AMD sponsored title and has neither DLSS3 nor even DLSS2. It also is a completely broken PC port.
@berengerchristy6256
@berengerchristy6256 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDravic the latest run of busted PC ports is really a tragedy. I almost never buy games on release. always wait for a steam sale. I don't trust publishers to let devs have enough time
@hub1986
@hub1986 Жыл бұрын
the only RT game i own is Cyberpunk for me the 6950 xt will be the clear winner for me specially at the same price. also play at 3440x1440p so Vram will idd be needed
@sgtjarhead99
@sgtjarhead99 Жыл бұрын
I'm in a situation where I'm thinking of upgrading my system right now. Currently moving away from a Geforce 2070 Super. Thinking about a RX 6800 XT, since I really don't game much anymore. Rez would be 1440p for my monitor. The RX 6950 XT and Geforce 4070 are both a couple of hundred dollars more and competitively priced against each other. Not sure I want to splurge a little bit more and just go with one of the latter.
@Pawcio2115
@Pawcio2115 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, very helpful
@fgcc89
@fgcc89 Жыл бұрын
Great job! I just got the 6950xt, with the discounts it was actually cheaper than most 4070s in Sweden.
@Kage0No0Tenshi
@Kage0No0Tenshi Жыл бұрын
not directly, I can agree that rx 6950xt is way cheaper than 4070ti but still cost about 200SEK more than 4070, in the end there is no point to get 4070 when both cost same and 4070 have less vram and only good at ray tracing that no one going to enable
@GodKitty677
@GodKitty677 Жыл бұрын
@@Kage0No0Tenshi 4070 card is aimed at a different customer than the 6950xt. 6900xt need a more expensive psu and bigger case. This means on cost the 4070 wins and to its target customer its the best card. A build with the 4070 will be cheaper. Really performance difference is bigger in RT once you factor in frame generation. Overall in newer games with DLSS the 4070 is far faster than the 6950xt. Even without DLSS the 4070 has better performance balance overall.
@fgcc89
@fgcc89 Жыл бұрын
@@Kage0No0Tenshi I got the 6950xt MERC 319 at 7300 sek at komplet. But you are right regarding the price in most stores.
@fgcc89
@fgcc89 Жыл бұрын
@@GodKitty677 I think that depends on what you are doing with your PC. Personally I don't care about ray tracing and the extra VRAM suits me very well. I installed the texture mods for KSP an I see my VRAM utilization usually around 10GB
@GodKitty677
@GodKitty677 Жыл бұрын
KSP can run fine on a very crappy GPU. Getting a RX 6950XT for KSP well... at least its not solitaire with a texture mod but kind of the same. Not caring about RT, well thats your own problem. The market is all for RT cards. nVidia is greater than 80% market share. Soon all new games will require decent DXR support and performance.
@ojassarup258
@ojassarup258 Жыл бұрын
Here's hoping that the 7800XT comes in at $600 with RT performance to match the 4070 but raster performance and VRAM of the 6950XT, without the high power consumption...
@snakeinabox7220
@snakeinabox7220 Жыл бұрын
I hope so too Im waiting for it. I will buy one the moment I can for MSRP
@diamonshade7484
@diamonshade7484 Жыл бұрын
$500
@snakeinabox7220
@snakeinabox7220 Жыл бұрын
@@diamonshade7484 for the 7800 maybe. Doubt the 7800xr is going to be sub 600. 600 is a stretch. 650$ with a chance if amd wants to murder the 4070 to up it at 600$
@Thomasdk1405
@Thomasdk1405 Жыл бұрын
The master of massive tests strikes again - amazing ! 👍👍
@WilliamOwyong
@WilliamOwyong Жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see what Battlemage will bring to the table. Still a while to wait though
@chrissoclone
@chrissoclone Жыл бұрын
I'd save the $100 on the card plus another $100 for a new PSU, as probably many (ex-) midrange buyers still have a med-tier PSU, plus some $ on the power bill and just get a 6800(XT), the $200 will come in handy for the 8xxx generation.
@ycl260779
@ycl260779 Жыл бұрын
Personally I would probably go with the 6950xt if I was looking to change my gpu from an older gen, but I'm not currently.
@MDxGano
@MDxGano Жыл бұрын
@@terraincognitagaming I mean he did say which one he would pick if you watched the whole video.
@user-gf8wd3hx7r
@user-gf8wd3hx7r Жыл бұрын
@@terraincognitagaming In few years you will be glad with that power efficiency of your system in office-mode because you wouldn't launch games because of unabling of gaming with 12G VRAM. 😄
@Exoleres
@Exoleres Жыл бұрын
@@terraincognitagaming That's a really weird take about a video that starts by talking about prices on Newegg. Newegg, as apparently only some of us know, is actually not Amazon.
@Ebilcake
@Ebilcake Жыл бұрын
@@user-gf8wd3hx7r It's mid range card bro, in a few years it will be time to upgrade. 12Gb will be fine for a while longer, so long you don't play at 4K native, which this card is not intended for.
@user-gf8wd3hx7r
@user-gf8wd3hx7r Жыл бұрын
@@Ebilcake Why mid-range card in 2023 isn't intended for 4k? According declarations at presentations of NVIDIA and AMD cards for 4k-gaming was released 5 years and 2 generations ago. So 4k-gaming it's not something new to be unique only for top-products.
@VeyXronX
@VeyXronX Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your hard work.
@grzegorzreszel
@grzegorzreszel Жыл бұрын
Great job with the video. I did a different decision. Got the AMD RX because of better performance consistency mainly. I want a stable performance with high 1% FPS. Ray tracing has so huge performance impact that I never use it, games look great without it, higher FPS is a win for me. Power consumption after undervolting is not an issue, 200W drained by card (Jedi Survivor), 2350MHz, 1100mV, 88 celcius on hotspot (Fractal Define mini case).
@SaxaphoneMan42
@SaxaphoneMan42 Жыл бұрын
One thing I wish was mentioned a bit more on these kinds of videos, the XTXH binned 6900 XTs (sapphire toxic, red devil ultimate, MSI Gaming Z Trio, etc.) are very similar in performance to a 6950 XT. Best part is they can generally be had for a $50-$100 discount from the 6950 XT. On top of that, 16GB of VRAM from AMD is a bit more likely to age well than the 12GB VRAM from Nvidia, though at least its better than 8GB. One other side note for people to consider if they intend to stay on their GPU for a while, AMD historically has better support for their older GPUs than Nvidia - who is much more likely to release software that can only be utilized if you upgrade your GPU again. If you care about ray tracing and are on a 1080p or 1440p resolution, 4070 seems like a solid card. If you are on 4k, or simply don't care about ray tracing, 6900XT/6950XT all the way.
@tek1645
@tek1645 Жыл бұрын
Biggest selling point for me is the power efficiency of the 4070 but it stings to see 12gb on this card...
@Nerwesta
@Nerwesta Жыл бұрын
@@tek1645 the so called AMD fine wine. I'll probably switch to this card after my very nice experience with the 5700 XT. ( Sapphire Nitro + ) which was after my 290X ( again Sapphire ) Always happy with this. 🤗
@SaxaphoneMan42
@SaxaphoneMan42 Жыл бұрын
@@Nerwesta went with the red devil ultimate 6900 XT, I was torn between that and the sapphire toxic (air cooled versions of both), but was able to find the RD ultimate at a good enough price that I couldn't pass it up. Both models are XTXH bins with great coolers, zero regrets on this purchase, and likely wont care to upgrade for a few more generations. Plus, being on Linux tends to add more to the "AMD fine wine", for instance, I was using SAM on a Vega64 prior to the upgrade, and can use FSR on games that don't have it implemented thanks to proton, though with my current card there is much less need for FSR.
@clo1298
@clo1298 Жыл бұрын
@@tek1645 Pay now or pay later.
@Nerwesta
@Nerwesta Жыл бұрын
@@SaxaphoneMan42 Many thanks for your valuable insights ! I guess I have some time to spend for this summer, I'm not in a hurry right now but this surely comes handy.
@spacechannelfiver
@spacechannelfiver Жыл бұрын
You should check pricing in your region, 7900XT is only 100 more than these cards and smashes them both. (Here the prices are much closer to what they should be than MSRP) I think if you are ponying up 600-650 for a GPU you are firmly in highend pricing and you should think about 750-800.
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 Жыл бұрын
That though is indicative of the encouraged upsell becoming the norm within both companies. By the same rationale, if one is then considering spending 800, then why not 900? 1K? 1500? Where does it end? The entire stack by both companies has shifted upwards by a huge margin in the last decade. If people keep paying such prices then they'll keep going up. NVIDIA even boasted in one of its investor calls that it had successfully upsold the market.
@RJ-vy4yd
@RJ-vy4yd Жыл бұрын
@@mapesdhs597 Can confirm. Was planning on upgrading 2080 to 4080. When I saw the announcement of 4000 series I simply bought 4090, as 4080's MSRP made no sense.
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 Жыл бұрын
@@RJ-vy4yd At least you have something there which is a lot faster than anything else atm (required CPU driving performance not withstanding), with a hefty VRAM margin. It's a modern unanswered question though. Top-down, expensive graphics subsystem design was very common 30 years ago (my old high-end SGIs prove that easily), but with off-the-shelf commodity tech now firmly in vogue, would gamers be willing to adopt the same MO from long ago? Alas NVIDIA seems to be approaching the matter by jacking the pricing while providing as little real gain as possible that it can get away with, which is ironic given the origins of many of its staff from SGI. If NVIDIA or AMD actually released something properly 3x faster than the current best (without any upscaling meddling), but which cost 5x the price, would gamers buy it? How high can the ceiling go? Obviously the margins climb rapidly. What sucks atm is that the ceiling keeps being pushed up, while at the same time the entry & midrange get repeatedly screwed over. For reference of what I meant above btw, my 24-CPU Onyx RE2 rack cost $1.5M when it was bought new by Ford in 1993.
@spacechannelfiver
@spacechannelfiver Жыл бұрын
@@mapesdhs597 oh come on, someone with a $650 budget should be able to stretch to $750 for a much better product without too much issue. If they cant then the $650 product is too much money to start with. Nobody is suggesting to go and spend 3 times the original budget, a 15% price increase for IMO more than 15% better product is offering some value. If someone is at the $650 and not a penny more pricepoint, then they are spending beyond their means and should go look at a $400-500 card.
@LaccerHS
@LaccerHS Жыл бұрын
Here the cheapest ones have about a $250 difference.
@abhisheks8017
@abhisheks8017 Жыл бұрын
This video is great. A suggestion. Please also include a general size comparison. I am looking for creating a mini itx build. So apart from frame rate, size is also a consideration for me.
@francsalazar
@francsalazar Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Thanks for your hard work! I am curious as to why did you stop testing MSFS?
@cieuxlux9617
@cieuxlux9617 Жыл бұрын
MSFS is a little weird. It will run on an old FX-8350, 60+ FPS, but with degraded graphical fidelity compared to a 12700k. The game itself can't be controlled, which is necessary for accurate results.
@stettmann
@stettmann Жыл бұрын
Here in Ukraine there are almost no 6950XT in stock, but there are plenty of 4070 for 720-750 USD with all taxes included depending on model. Bought myself 4070 dual, very satisfied with card, for 2K it is optimal, cool, quiet and power efficient.
@mr.electronx9036
@mr.electronx9036 Жыл бұрын
AMD had always a lower stock than nvidia bc they produce less gpus than ngreedia so it sounds very logical to me here in germany the same situation. 20000 amd gpus vs 120000 gpus now you can see wich one goes off shelfes first
@windpeoples
@windpeoples Жыл бұрын
Considering your heavy focus on gaming, have you considered doing a video comparing Gen 3, 4 & 5 NVMe SSDs and their impact in gaming? I *think* there was no much difference between Gen 3 & 4, but I have seen no data on Gen 5. Just a thought!
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 Жыл бұрын
even sata vs gen 4 is almost no difference. initial load times are a touch better, but its like going from 30fps(hard drive) to 60fps(sata ssd) to 120(pcie) you hit diminishing returns at a point, and it just stops making a real difference. sure you gain a couple seconds here and there, but its nothing like the 1-5 minute load times of hard drives to the sub 30 second load times of a sata ssd.
@thane_snipes
@thane_snipes Жыл бұрын
I recently upgraded from a 1070 to a 6950 XT. In my part of the world, the XFX Merc 319 6950 XT is currently 4749 DKK, whereas the cheapest AIB 4070s are about 5100-5200 DKK. Seeing as I also bought a 3440x1440 curved ultrawide, I'm really happy with my decision. That vram will come in handy as they years pass. Moreover, I've underclocked the heck out of it, reducing the load power draw to 180-200W, and with that massive cooler on it, it's hardly audible over my other fans, even under load. It's a wonderful gaming experience. Thanks for the video, and keep up the good work guys.
@UnavailableHandle.
@UnavailableHandle. Жыл бұрын
What settings did you use for the underclock? Also, how much performance did you lose on average?
@thane_snipes
@thane_snipes Жыл бұрын
@@UnavailableHandle. 2100 MHz min freq. 2200 MHz max freq. 900 mV +20% power limit Didn't touch the memory except for enabling fast timings. I haven't done any formal before/after benchmarks, but I reckon I've lost about 10-15% performance.
@nanfoodles
@nanfoodles 11 ай бұрын
I just bought a 4070, thanks for the great video. Its out for delivery right now. Thanks for helping me decide.
@cr0mag732
@cr0mag732 Жыл бұрын
RTX is for taking screenshots and that's about it. If I wanted mediocre fps I'd buy a console
@kotnbronson
@kotnbronson Жыл бұрын
Just bought today a 6950XT,replacing a 3070. Perfect timing Hammer On Box, thanks😅
@NamTran-xc2ip
@NamTran-xc2ip Жыл бұрын
might as well get a 3090 for similar performance and superior upscaling, and a bit of rt
@ivicamajmunskikreten9714
@ivicamajmunskikreten9714 Жыл бұрын
congratulations on getting a mini heater for the upcoming summer.
@riven4121
@riven4121 Жыл бұрын
@@NamTran-xc2ip Then run out of VRAM when you enable RT, especially at higher resolutions? 10 gigs of VRAM is not enough for it.
@NamTran-xc2ip
@NamTran-xc2ip Жыл бұрын
@@riven4121 I meant the 3090/3080ti sorry. The 4070 is basically the 3080 in raster
@kotnbronson
@kotnbronson Жыл бұрын
@@NamTran-xc2ip You can't find a 3090 anymore for decent price. I bought the 6950XT for 625£ brand new... also, my case is the NZXT H1, all the high end Nvidia cards are massive, so it was a no brainer for me! Don't really care about RT.
@trembledust6819
@trembledust6819 Жыл бұрын
Leaning on the 4070 specifically the non Tuff Asus version due to lower power consumption compatability with itx cases and from other reviews heard the cooler is pretty good. Rather water cool it but I am not spending the money being offered for 4 series waterblocks right now. Sheesh. The 4070 will be a hold me over for now if I pull the trigger until Nv 5 series or AMD new line of cards drops. Thanks for the video!
@gilmer3718
@gilmer3718 Жыл бұрын
I would buy either. I'm not married to ray tracing mostly because the performance with it enabled is pretty low. In a year from now, everything can change, as one year ago everything was quite different than it is now, markets and everything considered. Very good video.
@emmw7794
@emmw7794 10 ай бұрын
I think the 7800 XT is the way to go. I think that will be the go-to card this gen.
@GR33Nday2
@GR33Nday2 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 6950 XT after seeying this video.
@cheetahfurry9107
@cheetahfurry9107 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to LOVE the AMD cards. I was switching from a 2060 and I ordered the Sapphire 6700 (non-xt). I was so sad when I got it and it did not work! Spent 4 hours trying to get the 6700 and followed a ton of videos but the second the drivers installed it would go black screen. Windows would load and I could see the screen for a few seconds then nothing. Finally returned it and I was so frustrated I had spent so much time picking out that card. I am going to grab a 4070 but I have to wait till the FE edition is back locally. Thanks for the video though really good.
@doabrad1850
@doabrad1850 Жыл бұрын
That sucks. I have the Sapphire PULSE 6700 10GB and it's worked flawlessly over the last 9 months I've owned the card. It appears like the one you received was defective, which is very unfortunate. The 6700 10GB performs just slightly worse than a 3060 TI while costing a good $150ish less. Also, AMD's built-in GPU software is hugely better than what Nvidia offers. The only reasons I've exclusively bought AMD cards since 2017 are because Radeon Adrenaline is galaxies better than GeForce Experience and I also don't want to pay the Nvidia tax for a card that's equivalent in performance or barely better than a card AMD offers for $100.00 to $150.00 less.
@cheetahfurry9107
@cheetahfurry9107 Жыл бұрын
@@doabrad1850 I wanted to try their cards and would consider a 6700 from a local shop but after that. I really wanted to get that card I was so excited.
@Wineblood
@Wineblood Жыл бұрын
Steve focusing on niche features is always a weird twist.
@kvahlman
@kvahlman Жыл бұрын
The 6950XT looks like great value at $650, and then you think back to when it was released at $1100... Only took cutting the price in half to make it a good purchase. What a weird market.
@solocamo3654
@solocamo3654 Жыл бұрын
Relative to a $1500 3090 or $2000 3090ti, at $1100 it was a deal
@slayerr4365
@slayerr4365 Жыл бұрын
Yet people kiss amds ass for "good pricing" all of a sudden amd are a great company because a year later they cut the price to sell a dead card that they are about to replace to gullible buyers lol.
@Tippotipo
@Tippotipo Жыл бұрын
Got it for $830 two months after its launch.
@doncsicso81
@doncsicso81 Жыл бұрын
When the new cards started coming out last year I took the risk and bought an open box 6950xt after seeing the idiotic prices of the new GPUs. I paid 600 EUR for the card and I was afraid it would end up being a 6800 or something but luckily it wasn`t a scam and it was indeed what was advertised. I couldn`t be happier, and seeing what`s been going on with GPUs and pricing (especially in Europe) I definitely made the right decision! Thanks for all the effort you put into this video!
@orion9k
@orion9k 10 ай бұрын
You should compare power consumption as well, this is a huge beneficial feature for many people as well.
@LunaWaves
@LunaWaves Жыл бұрын
thanks Steve!
@Orisha1990
@Orisha1990 Жыл бұрын
A lot of the ray tracing results steer me even more toward the 6950xt, because with RT enabled even though 4070 performs better, it does so at an FPS level I wouldn't want to play the game anyways.
@MiraPloy
@MiraPloy Жыл бұрын
The test's not using any upscaling which is kinda unrealistic and ridiculous tbh.
@lewsee5562
@lewsee5562 Жыл бұрын
@@MiraPloy They're not using any upscalers because Nvidia fans are complaining about using FSR on an Nvidia card instead of DLSS, even though the comparison is only framerate, not image quality. On the previous benchmarks, both AMD and Nvidia cards are using FSR because you know, AMD doesn't have DLSS and Nvidia can use FSR. They've made a video about this one.
@SamuraiDeek
@SamuraiDeek Жыл бұрын
@@lewsee5562 Which is unfortunate considering that no scaling is not a true representation of how a GPU is used in 2023, especially for users at higher resolution. I disable it sometimes sure, but I play at 1080p, it gets annoying in some games. However, DLSS and FSR are a game changer in most games and if we factor in DLSS 3, then the RTX 4070 has a huge advantage (in specific games) over the 6950XT and there is no reason why anyone wouldn't enable it.
@eliceomartinezmejias867
@eliceomartinezmejias867 Жыл бұрын
To try RT you should use upscaling it’s what scientists says about this technology the “raw ray tracing “ it’s just not right
@garyb7193
@garyb7193 Жыл бұрын
@@SamuraiDeek The way I use my GPU in 2023 is 1080p absolutely off the table as is fps below 60fps. This places me at the moment at 1440p w/o RT which is why I bought a used 6800xt 16GB for $425.
@JLRO7
@JLRO7 Жыл бұрын
Just picked up a 6950xt for £550. I’m not bothered about RT and FSR seems to be gaining some ground so I think this was a perfect purchase!
@xajeyx
@xajeyx Жыл бұрын
Where did you get it from at that price?
@pa-pyro2804
@pa-pyro2804 Жыл бұрын
I got the rx6950xt a few weeks ago for my first desktop pc build I got a asus gaming laptop a few years ago to try out pc gaming and loved it and couldn't go back to a controller so for about 2 years I planned the build and had to wait more than a few times but now I can play absolutely any game maxed out and I love it went with the 7700x until he x3d chips can iron out the details and max there performance
@DontSmiteMeBruh
@DontSmiteMeBruh Жыл бұрын
thanks for the great content, one note though, i would swap the ray tracing comparison with fsr for both or dlss vs fsr performance, losing 100 fps for some spicy shadows is bs imo.
@Elinzar
@Elinzar Жыл бұрын
Man the Sapphire nitro cards are Soo good looking, except the last one, idk what they where thinking with that one, I hope they remake it at some point
@Nerwesta
@Nerwesta Жыл бұрын
Do you mean this one shown or the current gen one ? I'll get a Sapphire Nitro+ to replace my older... 5700 XT Nitro+
@Elinzar
@Elinzar Жыл бұрын
@@Nerwesta current gen looks awful, i have the 5700XT currently and i want so bad a 6000 series nitro +
@Nerwesta
@Nerwesta Жыл бұрын
@@Elinzar I'm on the same boat, I think I'll replace mine with a 6000 series Nitro + as well.
@boingkster
@boingkster Жыл бұрын
6950 for that sweet, sweet VRAM. And now served dripping with rich, creamery butter....
@charlesmiv3842
@charlesmiv3842 Жыл бұрын
But the drivers ruin it
@JoseSouls
@JoseSouls Жыл бұрын
Butter will be melted, due to the excessive temps of the majority of 6950's
@HenrySomeone
@HenrySomeone Жыл бұрын
Sweet 400 watts too...
@DailyCorvid
@DailyCorvid Жыл бұрын
@@charlesmiv3842 You know I find 99% of the time they're really great and I love all the extra streaming and recording features - direct mic and cam control with F keys. But yeah when it does it's usual weird AMD quirks I do throw mini tantrums at it :D Sometimes when I shut a tab in my browser, it just goes black for a millisecond, ONLY HAPPENS IN THE BROWSER WHEN USING SQUARESPACE and I cannot figure it out! LOL drives me nuts thos guddamn drivers. But then I use it again and it's fine, literally cannot pay somebody to reproduce that error. My GPU secretlty hates me lol all that budget air OC'ing.
@piplupempoleon4225
@piplupempoleon4225 Жыл бұрын
​@@charlesmiv3842 amd drivers always get better overtime
@aritzsantana9577
@aritzsantana9577 Жыл бұрын
This is my first comment in this channel I've following it for a long time and the content it's awesome, idea for a future video I know that you guys have done it like a year ago, but to compare in today's DNA. I've looking for a some PC parts like the RX 6950 XT or RX 7900 XTX but I don't know to which CPU pair to ryzen 7 5800x3D or intel core i5-13600K/KF. I am between this two because I already have some DDR4 memory. Can you guys do a comparison between SAM/Resize Bar again? Like I've said previously awesome content guys keep up the excelent work!!!
@jimkelly8814
@jimkelly8814 9 ай бұрын
Great, informative review. Have you had the chance to compare these 2 GPUs running Starfield ?
@OrjonZ
@OrjonZ Жыл бұрын
I hope AMD had 6950 XT performance RDNA3 at $600.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Жыл бұрын
soon?
@cribbbles
@cribbbles Жыл бұрын
could be 7700/7800 XT? maybe
@DildoFagginsNL
@DildoFagginsNL Жыл бұрын
​@@cribbbles I hope so but i highly doubt that. Amd tends to adapt to whatever NVDIA charges the customer. My guess is the RX6950 pricecut is an exception to that rule only because the 4070 actually has a decent price/performance ratio compared to the other stuff NVDIA has on the market right now besides the 4090.
@hiimcortana1568
@hiimcortana1568 Жыл бұрын
@@DildoFagginsNL TBH, AMD could charge 6950xt level raster with better RT but make it 650$ and 16gb of gddr6. That would still destroy 4070..but knowing AMD, they will screw up and price it 750$. lol
@OrjonZ
@OrjonZ Жыл бұрын
@@hiimcortana1568hard to price it that hard when 7900 XT goes for $800.
@ellypsis603
@ellypsis603 Жыл бұрын
Considering that the RTX 4070 can be found for about 600euros compared to 700euros for the 6950xt, consumes almost half the power, is significantly smaller in size, it's a better deal imo even with 4gb less vram. 6950XT has to drop under 600euros to be competitive.
@nicholaswilkerson501
@nicholaswilkerson501 Жыл бұрын
6950XT is a $900 card at launch. Although last gen hardware, your not going to see a price drop another $100 any time soon. Also that 4GB less VRAM is going to hurt bad in a year or two when minimum VRAM for games jumps, as it is already. your going to be stuck lowering settings in order to compensate for running out of VRAM.
@ellypsis603
@ellypsis603 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholaswilkerson501 wrong, the 6950 XT was 1100$ msrp, it resulted in about 1300€ with taxes in e.u
@thepro08
@thepro08 Жыл бұрын
the rtx is slower 17% ---- fukin fan boys is a tier class below.....
@youtubevanced4900
@youtubevanced4900 Жыл бұрын
The main selling point between the 2 of them is over had NVIDIA written on the box. That's it. Most people have made their decision based on that one fact.
@OcihEvE
@OcihEvE Жыл бұрын
It's a clear choice if you can get them at that price. In Canada the 6950 works out to $750 US and the situation the US had back at launch is still there. Prices on 6950, 7900XT and 7900XTX are creating more AMD competition with their own product than nVidia.
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