Miguel’s Severe ME/CFS Full Recovery Story

In this video, Miguel Bautista shares his journey with severe ME/CFS and POTS which included him being bed bound and admitted to the ICU. Miguel also shares the details of how he made his full health recovery.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Miguel’s life as a personal trainer before ME/CFS
04:07 Miguel’s health declined into severe ME/CFS
07:58 When people don’t believe you’re sick because you look so fit
09:44 Four years of no answers
11:22 What Miguel’s worst times were like
16:25 Dealing with having your identity stripped away
18:16 The 3 main aspects of Miguel’s full recovery
25:05 Figuring out where to start when you have severe ME/CFS
28:58 If and how IV treatments (Myers Cocktail) can work
31:21 Understanding chronic pain
35:53 The turning point when full recovery seemed possible
41:48 How modern-day life is not conducive to health
43:04 Where resistance to brain training programs might come from
47:47 Miguel’s advice for himself if he could go back
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[@RaelanAgle]

TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Miguel’s life as a personal trainer before ME/CFS 04:07 Miguel’s health decline into severe ME/CFS 07:58 When people don’t believe you’re sick because you look so fit 09:44 Four years of no answers 11:22 What Miguel’s worst times were like 16:25 Dealing with having your identity stripped away 18:16 The 3 main aspects of Miguel’s full recovery 25:05 Figuring out where to start when you have severe ME/CFS 28:58 If and how IV treatments (Myers Cocktail) can work 31:21 Understanding chronic pain 35:53 The turning point when full recovery seemed possible 41:48 How modern day life is not conducive to health 43:04 Where resistance to brain training programs might come from 47:47 Miguel’s advice for himself if he could go back

[@v1kas4y90]

I am bedbound for 3years now. It startet when I was 28years old. Now I am out of work, no family, my friends developed and I lost contact to them. I am totally alone and on my own and I often think of committing suicide.... So I am very happy to hear the recovery stories, which show me a little perspective❤️🙏🏽

[@ljon008]

Keep on going you will rise again someday. 🦅

[@RaelanAgle]

I'm so sorry to hear that. Please reach out and get support when you are in these places of severe depression. So many of us get past this, but it can take time. I hope you will get the support you need to get you through ❤️

[@mihakavcic7237]

Do you have a day planner? Do you have hours when you are better? Remember you only have to get those 15 hours (you sleep 9 (if you sleep) ) of a day back, that's all. You only have to conquer a day. But your situation is hard, no family no friends and no money, well that's a fact no need for depression episodes wich just making you so down that you can't even build a plan for conquering the day. Basically in this video is everything you need and there are so much more videos about CFS/ME. You got this! But you need a positive directions. I was like you for two years, now 2 years and 10 months I am at 88% and the joy of life is back, maybe it would be a good Idea that some one who went through CFS/ME talk to your family & friends, so they will know what a rotten soul's they are too leave you in your worst. I think they are like that because they can't understand and you and all CFS/ME sufferers just can't explained while you are "ill".

[@Miaoen68]

Hi V1KA S4Y how are you today?❤

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

We still hope to hear an update from you. It's terribly hard when you're that sick and isolated. I've been through it. Still am in some ways, though not bedbound, just very limited some days.

[@andreasarbor2300]

I am 22 year old man who was living his best life. Now bedbound stripped of everything I have ever worked for, suffering every day. Last few days I was thinking about the end scarily often. I just wanted to let you know this video possibly saved my life.Thank you.

[@marekstepanek1214]

Just dont give up man. I fully understand you. I feel the same. I am 21. We are going to heal. Trust yourself and trust your body. I got you

[@RaelanAgle]

Sending so much love to you, Ondrej - looking forward to helping to share your recovery story one day. I hope you find your puzzle pieces to put this behind you as quickly as possible ❤️

[@claudiacastillo5898]

Please don’t give up! We’re all in this together and we will find a way!

[@steve0ne11]

Please don’t give up. You WILL recover. Even if it takes a while, at least it’s happening early. When you recover you will have so much time left to live an amazing life. My journey started in my mid 30’s and I’m feeling like there is an end in sight finally. We have so much time left, even if the process is slow. Stay strong and remember that you are not alone.

[@marekstepanek1214]

@@andreasarbor2300 není zač ondro) hlavně se nevzdat👊🏻

[@FreshAgenda]

Glad to see Miguel on here! Now get Rebecca Tollin... she has a similar approach to recovering. She went through hell for 10 plus years before understanding what it would take for her to recover. Thank you x100!

[@RaelanAgle]

I'll check it out! Thanks!

[@becoming_a_betty]

I so appreciate Miguel talking about the role medication played in his recovery story as I too had a similar experience. I was so unwell I hadn't slept for weeks and was in a constant panic attack and couldn't function until I found the right medication to calm things down. I felt so upset about taking it for a while as alot of recovery stories talk about the completely natural path to recovery, I felt worried that I could never get there taking medication. However like you said sometimes you need help to get into that place where you can even do the things that are beneficial. My coach called it getting into the "band of tolerance". I so appreciate you sharing your story Miguel, absolutely inspiring xx

[@RaelanAgle]

Thanks for taking the time to share this ❤️ I can relate - I also don't love taking medications but had to take some to manage symptoms during my recovery. Whatever gets us there!

[@jonathankenningsworth9923]

What medication helped you?

[@hectorfran7]

Hi Betty. Could you tell us more about how your medication helped you? Which one you took and for how long?

[@kellyparks9215]

I so agree! Thanks for sharing.

[@somethingsmatter]

Thank you for this video. Miguel‘s grandparents sound like such sweet people, and they cared for him so much. I hope they got to see him healthy again! Yes, there is a lot of resistance to brain training because me/cfs was and still often is seen as a psychological nor physical illness. I think part of the danger is that people fear talking about brain training will continue to misalign me/ cfs as a psychological and not physical illness.

[@RaelanAgle]

Well said!

[@rollings2035]

Is it only me who couldn't hear the audio at the last 5 minute mark? Great interview by the way, he def explained the details and what helped him in a great way!

[@karenmccants1439]

Raelan I'm SO happy you did this interview!! I took Dan Nueffer's "Re-Wire" program (which really helped me!!), a few months ago and also started listening to Miguel's inspiring videos about a month ago--he's so helpful!! I am well on my way to recovery and am finally excited about the future instead of always feeling horrible...much thanks to you, Dan, and Miguel!! You are all doing such great things by helping people in this way--God bless.💖🙏🏽😊

[@RaelanAgle]

Karen, this is amazing!!! I'm so happy to hear about all the progress that you've made. Great work!

[@EndersWorlds]

Another great recovery story. And a severe one too, very hope inspiring.

[@RaelanAgle]

Glad you enjoyed it, Kate ❤️

[@dan5135]

Thank you!! Needed this today as new symptoms came up this week. "Welcome symptoms as an excuse to retrain the brain" - yeeesss!!!

[@kuldipChoudhuryVlogs]

I'm regular viewer of both of you. Good to see you maguel in your channel. My two inspirations in one frame woww !! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@RaelanAgle]

Aw so nice to hear, Kudlip! Thank you ❤️

[@elianauku]

I love the point about needing a mindset shift - earlier in my journey when I started to make some improvements and thought I was well on my way to recovery, I went full force back into working and socializing (classic toxic relationship with productivity) and that led to the worst crash of my life!

[@RaelanAgle]

I hear this so often... I suspect many of us have to learn this lesson the hard way ❤️

[@roostertheguy]

Great content as always, what an amazing recovery story!

[@RaelanAgle]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@arlahunt4240]

This sounds like the old type of nervous breakdown. Just think of that term? Nervous breakdown, it happens. It’s real. And it takes work and we need help to get well. Congratulations on your life.

[@hilarysidwell8302]

A wonderful interview. Thank you Miguel and Raelan. My brain and mind is pinging with all kinds of recognition and inspiration to keep going with my brain retraining programme. I am bouncing. Love and blessings to you both. Xxx

[@peachesmcgee4795]

Yay!Great to see u both in one place as you've both helped me so much!

[@RaelanAgle]

Awesome! So great to hear ❤️

[@peachesmcgee4795]

@@RaelanAgle thanks to both of you :)

[@pamelarose229]

Wow what a brilliant interview - great to see Miguel on your channel! Such an inspirational story, and so many amazing soundbites all the way through. I was listening to it as I was walking the 4km into our town centre, for an appointment - something that felt like an impossible pipe dream 12 years ago when I was first diagnosed with ME/CFS. So hearing him say how grateful he is every day really resonated. Keep up the great work Raelan - it's so important that people hear this inspirational stories.

[@RaelanAgle]

Thank you, Pam! 💖

[@grahamkeil2253]

Once again you do a great job ! to allow and encourage Miguelito clearly convey his great message. Thanks again!!

[@RaelanAgle]

You are so kind, as always Grahan! Miguel is a pro and a natural... I wish I could take credit!

[@forisma]

Just started watching, and already excited to see this, because it's a) concerned a full recovery and b) the sound quality of the guest is tremendous!

[@RaelanAgle]

Great to hear!!

[@ThomasAT86]

Really cool interview! Usually I skip some parts but I've listened to the whole thing. Thanks guys and congratz Miguel to becoming a thriver that also survives! I used to be the guy that pushed things like training, working and partying to the extreme, not putting the glass down until I tapped out, not putting the barbell down until I puked or almost puked, and shifting between these back and forth every half year because I pushed myself into a very significant overtraining or even a severe burnout once after combining 38h of physically demanding shiftwork, 6-7 days of training per week, 1-2 days of intense partying, bad diet, sleep and hydration, no sense for what my body was telling me and my perfectionistic and anxious personality traits. I believe that the doctors actually being able to explain it, so properly and in such a frequency is just phenomenal! I got my diagnosis last year after 6 years, and just this year heard about brain retraining and an actual scientific and proper explanation of what could be going on. This challenge or transforming event, or the Pain Teacher as Paul Chek calls it, really helped me to learn a lot of very important and necessary lessons, becoming way more mature, objective, realistic, respecting my limits more, learning how to achieve goals, assertiveness and so on. Since around 5 months I'm finally moving forward again, got out of 1,5 years of severe depression, alcohol and tobacco abuse, went from 22h lying down to 15h lying down, lost 14kg, had some at least mentally very uplifting forenoons throughout the last two weeks and have made some other progress. I'm poor and my family is a mess but I've got a momentum going on here, a supportive practitioner that really helps me financially, a great plan, have learned some great tools that I use daily, have confidence on most days and I have myself. I just hope that the next challenges get stuck in traffic until I overcome this one haha. Thanks Raelan for doing these videos and thanks Miguel for what you've shared, appreciate you guys! Love and strength, Thomas

[@lovelyloombands7432]

Ohh ur really going through it ! But ur so postitive ! Happy I have found a Councillior to talk to .. I’ve had 1 for depression but due to a very stressful home situation I never really dealt with with me or health conditions to be honest there’s a massive demand for them now & I think their churning g them out quick & in this last 6-7 yrs of seeming 3 different ones none seem to understand or have any background in anything much to help . I know I might sound like a harsh but when U ve got big problems with 1 if ur children & money etc worries the last thing u need is to get so ill u can’t help anyone & with this illness ppl don’t understand much less family .. I think if ur always on the go & u stop they translate ‘ Can’t ‘ for don’t want to .. I missed a few family things .& it’s so hard to explain & ppl think ur tired u have some early nights or nights just rest & ppl r ok & then u get sick of saying ur tired , sick of feeling in pain with really odd pains .. A ll we have here is pain Management their very nice but all they do is write down sites to go on . ( which usually r animated explaining that ur not really feeling any pain because ppl who lose a leg etc can still feel it but knowing it’s not there ) which I couldn’t understand So basically no help & leads u to believe it’s all in your Head like ur a hyper condi act .! .. I ve only just understood what pacing REALLY means .. Your story’s inspiring too good luck with the rest of ur recovery ! X

[@KWilliams22]

Brilliant Brilliant video!! Thank you both. Everything you were saying about the mindset etc resonated with me 100% as it's exactly what's covered in the ANS rewire and it's fantastic!! I'm so pleased that there are some knowledgeable doctors out there and I hope there will be more support of this kind in the future 🙏

[@RaelanAgle]

I appreciate that so much, Keren! Thank you ❤️

[@tominnc315]

I just watched this today. Since Covid early Jan ive been up down. Fatigued headaches shoulder pain numb feet vision flashes. Ive been to a therapist. This fits my puzzle so well. More confirmation that the mind is sooooo connected to the body. Thankyou!

[@Sarahpreecenelsonnz]

Thank you Miguel, and also Raelan. So much wisdom, strength and hope from your experiences of recovery, so generously shared. I agree Raelan that it is worth noting that even though many of us may have given up on Medication that, it might (and has) played a part in the recovery of some people. I would also like to add, that for so people it has played a massive part in the onset of their CFS/ME too. So something to continue to be wary of and fully informed about. Miguel mentioned Ativan which is a Benzodiapine. Benzodiazepines should not be prescribed for longer than 2-4 weeks, including taper. For a significant group of people, these drugs can cause paradoxical effect (as Miguel mentioned in his first experience with Ativan) and detrimental effect, especially related to withdrawal - which can be protracted. My own CFS/ME was 'triggered' by a medication toxicity from prescribed medication. What I have learnt from my experience is that if I were to ever accept the advice of a prescriber to take a prescription medication again, that I would ask them to clarify the guidelines for use/prescription of that medication and detail a supported tapering plan. Unfortunately many doctors know how to prescribe, but don't understand how to safely taper people off medications that cause adverse effects. The patient is then often blamed for they symptoms caused by the medication (ie they have underlying mental health issue) which results in poly-drugging and a viscious cascade of iatrogenic harm.

[@RaelanAgle]

Thank you for sharing this, Sarah! I think it's so important for all us us to compile our experiences and learn what we can from one another.

[@jonathankenningsworth9923]

Does he mention what he took and why? I didn't see it.

[@stacylamotte5517]

Thank you so very much Raelan and Miguel!! I found such HOPE and ENCOURAGEMENT in this video and took lots of notes! Thanks Miguel for the reminder that we can’t do all these changes at once as it seems to me that many of us who get these diseases are overachievers, which on the surface seems like a good thing, but balance as you say is so important!!

[@RaelanAgle]

Yes! Such a good point, Stacy 🌟

[@karenehni1893]

Great interview, thank you.

[@RaelanAgle]

Glad you enjoyed it, Karen!

[@MilaEstInHortus]

Thank you to you both

[@RaelanAgle]

💓💓

[@mattinterweb]

Thank you. Great interview and wonderful story with helpful info.

[@me-cfs-strategiesforhealing]

People need to be aware that Miguel charges 6500 USD for his recovery program. What kind of person charges the chronically ill THAT much?

[@northernflicker1111]

Sadly I saw a video clip of him someone posted on cfs reddit of him saying was going to be angry if he didn't make a million dollars this year and how that's "only 10 sales a month".

[@Karmak87wilkjeu]

I saw multiples of that post, and he isn't charging that price anymore its gone up to 8K. Every time I called I am not even speaking with him. That is ridiculous and some people still don't heal in fact they have gotten way worst! Fyi He deletes off comments total manipulator in his channel watch out for this ...@@northernflicker1111

[@Karmak87wilkjeu]

im guessing someone who is more focused on money rather than helping others... He doesn't seem to have a friendly vibe. Plus where is the doctor that he credits his healing from I want that doctor's advice!

[@Ytdeletesallmycomments]

Free advice. Do omad dieet histamine low food, no sugar. Take quercitine Tulsi Milktistle Tumeric tea with pepper every morning Fish oil Woodworm Copper for if your hair fell out and turned grey. And do a walk. Every day even if it is four steps. Or just wiggle hands or feet. Be happy what the little you did. Dont see it as an illness but your lifechanging adventure. You are stuck in yourself. And you are not even that anymore. The reinvention of you. Who is there for you? What didnt work in your life? Why is it so hard to surrender to do not a thing in the world? Sit by the window or in the garden in the sun everyday. No sun? Buy a light. After two days you will feel a change. Your mood is good and no anxiety anymore. The supplements will work for you. The bodypart i am still figuring out myself. But i feel optimistic. The rest i take and get will heal me.😊

[@Bubblesandcandyfloss]

That’s not true ? At all? I’m on his programme

[@oliviawright989]

As a long covid on to recovery. This is the major symptoms we need to know. Lets help each other to save humanity! Thank you

[@RaelanAgle]

Yes ❤️

[@sarahmason3622]

Such a good interview. His approach is so similar to ANS Rewire, which I am enrolled on. There really is a way out of this, so many common themes are emerging throughout these interviews.

[@RaelanAgle]

I am starting to feel the same thing! I hope the ANS rewire is helpful for you, Sarah ❤️

[@sarahmason3622]

@@RaelanAgle it’s been wonderful. I’m finding that looking at the work you do and others really reinforces belief in the approach. Which is key. Thank you so much.

[@deion312]

This video made me cry, gave me the chills and brought me so much joy. Thank you Raelan

[@RaelanAgle]

I'm so glad to hear that! ❤️

[@JoyfulMD]

Nice conversation. Thank you

[@RaelanAgle]

Our pleasure! Thank you for watching 💛

[@PriscillaThen]

So many nuggets of wisdom here. It's SO true (like what @rundmc1 says in his videos) that CFS often happens to A-Type personalities and overachievers! My friend told me that getting Long COVID was to teach me something. Besides learning the importance of nutrition/supplements, rest and the (symp./parasym.) nervous system, I couldn't understand what deeper lesson there was. Thanks to Miguel for teaching me to be grateful for having the disease, that crashing is not the time to become frustrated / angry, but a reminder that pushing ourself to the max is harmful, not productive. Thank you Raelan for this wonderful, eye-opening interview!

[@lindascott7644]

Incredibile Video.. Thank you So Much for Sharing.. There is Hope..

[@lisanorman1844]

Neuroplasticity is so true. Make time for self-practice/meditation. Also, refuse to participate in the unnecessary noise of life. Baby steps to avoid returning to ground zero. Consistent hard work . . .

[@RaelanAgle]

Yes!!

[@leahcalabro2787]

Wow. Inspirational 🙏

[@RaelanAgle]

💓💓💓

[@BelovedShift]

Yea!! He’s a great motivator Raelyn 💜 your in great company Miguel, she’s the best 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[@happyhero1985]

Very inspiring. 🙏

[@RaelanAgle]

💓💓💓

[@irenepapaspyros4847]

So heartbreaking 💔 I thought I was fully recovered and just had a crash after 9 weeks. What an inspirational story! ❤️❤️❤️

[@RaelanAgle]

I am so sorry to hear that Irene. But glad you found the story inspirational ❤️❤️❤️

[@jocooper94]

I love this 🥰 mind set I totally agree needs shifting.. I am working on this myself and it’s very tough Thank you for sharing 🥰

[@RaelanAgle]

You got this, Jo! 💖

[@jackienaiditch7965]

I’m always of two minds when I hear about stories like Miguel’s. On the one hand, I’ll always cheer on anyone who recovers from this horrible illness (which I’ve had for over 20 years). I’ll always cheer on people like Raelan, who are trying to provide inspiration. On the other hand, I’ll remain skeptical until I have a fuller view of the various programs that promote cures. And, by the way, I didn’t hear the words ME/CFS from either Raelan or Miguel during this interview. So right from the get-go, I’m wondering if Miguel was diagnosed with this illness, and if he was, why he didn’t specifically mention that. I think there are two basic reasons for skeptics like me. One, is the history of medical communities psychologizing ME/CFS. It can seem like many of these programs promoting their cures are doing the same, under the cover of terms like “brain rewiring” or “brain retraining.” It’s as if we can think our way out of ME/CFS, by thinking more positively, or differently, than we have in the past. But then again, the videos I’ve seen are long on the testimonial part and very short on how any particular program is implemented. For that, you have to fork over cash. Another reason for my skepticism-and that of many others-is that over the years we’ve tried so many supplements, techniques, processes. We desperately want to get better, and so are willing to try anything. When Miguel says the problem is we’re looking for external fixes and not willing to do the internal work, I think he misses the mark. When you’re this ill, you’ll try just about anything. Miguel is not unique in this. For instance, I practiced mindfulness meditation-not for a couple of weeks-but for about 3 years. It definitely helped me cope with the stress and depression of being ill. But it sure didn’t cure me. I guess what I’m trying to say here is that inspiration is well and good, but without a strong scientific underpinning--for me, at least--it rings a bit hollow.

[@jackienaiditch7965]

@More Lime "but what he says also makes huge sense to me." What I've noticed in many of these programs, is that they'll take an idea that makes sense, and run with it to an extreme that doesn't make sense, or is at least highly questionable. For instance, it makes sense that calming down the central nervous system is a good thing. Because those of us with ME know that stress exacerbates our symptoms. But to then make that the centerpiece of a cure? Sorry, I'm not buying it.

[@mirandaandrea8215]

I think it s a critical piece of the jigsaw! Most chronic disorders are connected to maladaptive stress response! There is so much science behind how a malfunctioning autonomic nervous system impacts on physiological symptoms! The body gets stuck in fright flight like a faulty alarm system! It makes complete sense to me. The brain re training needs discipline p, focus, and consistency, that’s the hard bit!

[@sergiocamelo650]

Thanks!

[@sergiocamelo650]

Thank you so much Raelan. I am very grateful that even though you have a full-time job, a partner, and probably lots of things you want to do on your free time, you always find time to give this awesome material to the rest of the world. I always look forward to your videos and watch them with a cup of tea while resting a bit from work!!! Thanks so much to Miguel for the interview, it is impressive how far he has gone, and the passion he has to give back sharing his story.

[@RaelanAgle]

Sergio!! I'm always so happy to hear from you. I think of you often and always hope that you are doing well. It makes me happy to think of you watching with your tea! Thanks for your generosity and for you kinds words as always 💛

[@alexandrecouture2462]

Interresting video! With his story, I wonder if it wasn't more a burnout than cfs that he had?

[@WonderfulTruck-fi8lo]

Thankyou for your post ☺️👍👏😘

[@amandakephart2544]

What program did you do?

[@ratfacekick]

Sounds exactly like everyone that got cfs after a move into a moldy building. Feeling run down, then BAM, Massive panic attack. I remember mine in applebees. He either moved houses when he changed job, or his workplace was the culprit. His tolerance to stress came down, not the other way around we assume it to be. Millions of athletes push themselves constantly and see only improvement. An notice how all his breakthroughs came from a change in environment. Its no coincidence, they appear in every recovery story.

[@kimcourir]

Do people who moved to a moldy building suffer these symptoms?

[@grahamkeil2253]

Thanks

[@RaelanAgle]

Thank you, Graham!! 💖🌟🎇🤗🤸🏻‍♀️🙏💃🏻

[@deion312]

YEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!

[@RaelanAgle]

❤️

[@CathyJennings-kw8ds]

Thanks 👍👍👍👍

[@Kookkojavis]

This was deep story.

[@emmahar7290]

I got COVID March last year and did not deal with it. I went into fight or flight and convinced myself I’d end up in hospital. I had a 3 month old baby and didn’t cope well. I got over covid but developed “long covid” or what I believe is CFS due to my body in constant stress. I’ve done so much work this year to help myself, I’m on anti anxiety meds and my pain has massively gone down. I’m so so much better than I was BUT the fatigue is getting worse..I wonder if it’s because I came out of fight or flight which is why I wasn’t tired at the time but am now. This was 18 months ago it began. My fatigue is getting worse and I’m getting a bit scared! What brain training programme can you recommend? I did a lot of research on dr joe dispenza and that helped me over come the pain side of things. I’m ready to move on from this shitty fatigue and love my life again!! I’ve been out walking today with my family and the pain and exhaustion now is getting me down tonight. Grateful I’ve found this Channel

[@RaelanAgle]

Hi Emma, I am so sorry to hear that you have been facing all of this. I can't even imagine what this has been like with a baby! I'm sending so much love to you, I hope you find your puzzle pieces needed to get past this as quickly as possible. I didn't personally use any brain training programs, so I don't know which to recommend. There are more and more options out there though - wishing you all the best in finding what's best for you ❤️

[@v1kas4y90]

There is for example the Gupta Amygdala Retraining Program.

[@jessicanilsson5941]

Hi had You anixety, depression?

[@BJ-bc7sl]

ME CFS is a vagal nerve injury. He retrained the vagal nerve.

[@pamdawson8598]

Sounds like mental and physical exhaustion...somebody mentioned nervous breakdown. This is quite different from CF /ME. These artificial drinks and stimulants ...yes you were fatigued. Taking back control of your life healthy wise is fatigue but not CF ME. Bless you for sharing. Most of the CF people I know are not fanatics....health wise. I think you are describing psychological condition. Nervous breakdown due to bad diet.

[@darrend2035]

Miguel ? Did you get bad headaches??

[@mgsBicycleO9]

🙏🙏❤️

[@quevicular]

Miguel most likely blew out his adrenal glands and that is not a good thing. He stressed himself out big time. Live blood analysis is a great start. Im going in for it again this thursday. Got sick again and its been 2 weeks now and lack of energy bigtime.

[@kayoss2306]

Adrenal fatigue is a myth, it goes higher up than that - it's the HPA axis in the brain (which is the control centre for the andrenals) that becomes dysfunctional, not the adrenal glands themselves. This is what all the research is showing. It's a software issue, not a hardware issue, which is why so many people recover with brain retraining programs ☺

[@quevicular]

@@kayoss2306 wondering if you have any more information on this. I've never heard of this before

[@cfsrecovery]

Surprisingly they weren’t completely blown out! Will you mount a stimulants I was doing I totally would’ve thought I fried my adrenals, luckily they were on the very borderline of the point of no return. I was in about stage 3 adrenal fatigue in the beginning but even when they recovered, as mentioned above, my nervous system was completely out of whack!

[@quevicular]

@@cfsrecovery how did you recover from this. Can you provide details

[@kayoss2306]

@@quevicular There's lots of research out there, but if you're looking for a summary, I've heard Ari Whitten or Chris Kresser talk about it before, if you search their names and adrenal fatigue, you should find some KZbin videos or articles. Hope that helps!

[@lisachristinaconfirmed5067]

I wonder if Miguel did Gupta or DNRS?

[@me-cfs-strategiesforhealing]

He did Toby Morrison's program. There is an interview with him on Toby's channel, CFS Health. Not that Miguel would mention that anywhere....

[@user-wd8wz3bz5x]

@@me-cfs-strategiesforhealing Yes!! I noticed that too!! He even did a success story on Toby’s KZbin channel. Somethings not adding up. I searched and found it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIqvp4R3htasmrcfeature=shared dodgy

[@chadvader974]

I like this channel, really I do... but the recurring theme is.. the person comes on, they say how they got sick... they DO NOT SHARE ANY DETAIL ABOUT HOW THEY RECOVERED... They put a link to a consultancy website where they charge a fee... not one... NOT ONE person actually says the details of what they do to heal... not one.... point to one video please that states ok... I did a brain retraining programme... that goes like this .. step 1) step2) step3) no... you have to drop hundreds of dollars to even get to speak to someone. Its not right.

[@alinavsn]

I agree. Also, just because you have recovered from CFS it doesn’t mean you’re an expert on CFS recovery. Everyone is different. I think it’s appalling that Miguel charges thousands of dollars for his ‘program’ knowing how much people with cfs struggle financially. I did one of his ‘cheaper’ programs and can tell you right now it was not worth the money. All the info included is already available for free online. The ‘coaches’ are just some people who did his recovery jumpstart program who, for the most part, have no understanding of trauma, somatic practices or other essential tools for recovering. Overall I have learned nothing from his program. The only reason I joined was because they promised a one a one appointment with a coach where they give you a plan. The coach cancelled on me twice and couldn’t get another appointment. I just wanna say to people, be careful with all these programs. Some are not worth the money.

[@marirobinsonYouTube]

I'm sending this to Marie who remains bedridden for 11years. Here's her story and we hope you will all pray for her to get help. Thanks so much!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJqpn2qHZbl3gKM 🤕😥

[@dommccaffry3802]

God if i see toby morrisson one more time in the adverts before raelan i will lose my Sh..

[@Star5dg]

😂 I know lol

[@wendylpa]

His story is nearly identical to my hellish journey that ruined my life/health for nearly 30 years. I'd work 6 months & sleep 6 months. & repeat the cycle my entire adult life. I have little to no memory of 30 years of my life due to the nightly fevers & other brain decline symptoms. I couldn't remember my own zip code half the time! I stayed to myself & hid this from friends/family/didn't tell a soul since they'd assume I had dementia & put me in a home by age 30. A VERY important root cause they failed to mention is Epstein Barr Virus (EBV)! About 3% of the population are genetically wired to struggle with chronic EBV, which reactivates the second you get run down. I had to figure this out myself, about 25 different MD's told me 'I was fine...it was all in my head' 🙄since I looked healthy & my labs were normal the entire time. Knowing conventional healthcare had failed me - I took functional medicine courses (despite my debilitating brain fog!) & wrote everything down since I had zero memory. After ~5 years of study when my brain permitted - I suspected EBV yet none of the 25 MD's had ever tested my levels. & sure enough, I was right - my acute infection & past EBV infection levels were the highest the MD had ever seen! I'm now on anti-virals to keep EBV at bay & I'm a semi-normal functional human for the first time in my adult life. I also had to address long-term insomnia & gut dysfunction that had come along with all this viral-induced suffering - but I'm healthier in my 50's than I was in my 20's! 👏 Sorry for long post, just trying to help others in case this hellscape sounds familiar. Be well!

[@Jolei33]

Wishing you continued recovery. ❤❤

[@CathyJennings-kw8ds]

"TIME BLINDNESS" This person is always Consistently LATE TO ALL APPOINTMENTS, MEETINGS, GET TOGETHERS, Bible Studies meetings. People think the tardy people are disrespectful, inconsiderate of other people schedules . This person feels powerless. Not able to fix it fix the behavior. Not able. Too many Traumas experienced. Over 30 years time. Can anybody relate?? Chronic exhaustion & Fibromyalgia SYNDROME disability.😢😢😢😢 Have no more close buddies to discuss possible solutions. Fears might be the main thing. Yet generally we think positive words in her mind. Even look forward happily.

[@Anonymous-hi7oh]

I don’t know if you’re aware. He’s been exposed as never having CFS/ME and just had antidepressant and pays people to make fake recovery stories.

[@djVania08]

How has he been exposed?

[@maryjohnson753]

Got so tired of him talking about his days of personal training & drinking tons of energy drinks. Can you say "ego". He didn't mention the damage those drinks cause. Found it hard to believe a lot of his hospital details etc. Knowing how much he charges for his services, sickens me.