Raiders & Pierce STUCK: Big Changes Coming?

[@coreykuhl3079]

It’s important to remember, AP chose Getsy while Turner was already on staff, Minshew over AOC, and did not play McCormick until there were no other options. One bad choice after another, it sounds like there are a dozen reasons to fire AP and only 2 in favor of keeping him; 1. The players are still playing hard 2. Don’t want to make another change.

[@kking2125]

Exactly, everyone that wants to bring up the fact that he wanted Kingsbury, that's fine but then going on to higher getsy is ridiculous regardless of who his 1st choice was.

[@dewey_breaux]

Well let's tell the truth he choose no experience bo hardegree over scott turner last year...whitehair and peat at guard before going to meredith,Mattison,white,Abdullah, laube all before turning to mccormick,minshew over o'connell(yes I put that on A.P. over telesco because he went along with it)that's just personal not game decision

[@18letter33]

Preach u guys are on point tonight

[@ScottSweaty]

💯 % 🎯 🏈🏴‍☠️

[@ScottSweaty]

Real talk gentleman. Good to see there is still some in Raider Nation that have common sense still. Some of these comments just make you roll your eyes that they believe the 💩 they’re writing. The team has done a decent job of drafting young players the last couple/few years now on both sides of the ball. The next step in the development of this team starts & ends with a young franchise quarterback moving forward to pair with all the youth on offence to develop and grow together with imo. 🏈🏴‍☠️

[@JamesWilliams-ey5kn]

@@ScottSweaty that's it

[@ChrisLML12]

The thing with AP he is a RAH RAH head coach…unless you as a head coach can identify good subordinate position coaches to supplement that with good Xs and Os. The RAH RAH HC screaming Raiders and smoking cigars in the locker room only carries so far…. Eventually you (coaches like AP) get exposed and out coached by rival coaches as time goes on. I know AP has his supporters, and I was one of them but unfortunately it’s just not working! IMO, it’s time to pivot and go after a guy like Ben Johnson or similar type of offensive minded guy. Just as like as they aren’t an arrogant type like a Josh “know it all” McDaniels!

[@jonathanwilliams1974]

He's a "CEO" coach and he's really bad at being a CEO. If you're a coach who doesn't call plays...you better be a DAMN good CEO. Judging by him coaching staff hires, he's anything but. Dan Campbell and John Harbaugh are the prime examples of the CEO coach who knows how to build a staff and get a team to play hard.

[@OilFieldRaider83]

Even if they get a qb. They’re screwed if AP comes back

[@pigdogg95]

I liked the AP hire, but I have to agree with you that they need to move on. I just have a sneaky suspicion he'll be given 1 more year. He hasn't lost the locker room, and the injuries were a lot for a young/1st time HC. I'm not making excuses for him, but I feel like that will be what saves him if he does stay (right or wrong).

[@raiderraz]

Almost zero chance that AP returns.

[@iputsnworkiputsnwork1500]

Nah Mike V. will be the next HC

[@jonathanwilliams1974]

@@raiderraz 0 chance he SHOULD return, but I don't trust Davis to make the right decision. Hopefully Brady convinces him. As far as injuries, there are WAY more injured teams than the Raiders and they aren't floundering.

[@raiderraz]

That’s just it, Mark Davis will not make the decision even though he is the majority owner. It will be Tom Brady.

[@jonathanwilliams1974]

@@raiderraz it should be Telesco. Owners need to let their GM actually...well...M.

[@jwdecosta]

Ok, ok, I was so wrong! Gee, how did that happen? LOL!

[@jwdecosta]

This is a FU&$ show!

[@AyoD33]

The way to get a franchise anything is to loose in modern football. The QB pool is drying up with too many maybes coming out of college, so what is a legitimate plan to get a qb of the future if you don’t have a high draft pick? This is a different season if the coaching staff, GM and owner are on the same page. AP understood the assignment and tried to hire experience to make up for his shortcomings if the GM isn’t with it how do you expect him to succeed?

[@standsintherain1]

Ridder plays football like my Mrs , in fact I think she might be better 😂

[@coreykuhl3079]

I guess the only real question regarding keeping AP or not… is 2-3 wins acceptable at any point in the organization? If a HC wins 5, 6, 7 games and shows some improvement throughout the year then yes, it can take time, but this team has regressed and is still not doing the littlest things right.

[@murfdizzle4shizzle]

I was supportive of the AP hire and have supported him all year. A lot of the criticisms of his press conferences are really needling him over disingenuous interpretations. However, the tanking of Davante’s trade value by playing twitter games was a huge issue. If he didn’t know not to make a “joke” about playing for the number one draft pick in a conversation with a professional sports media icon…he’s gotta go. That’s just crazy. Those mistakes can cost you far more than a few football games. Add the on field miscues and it’s hard to defend him. None of that has anything to do with the record or the groceries he was given. Those are his choices.

[@standsintherain1]

If AP had taken all the fg , things would look much different now. Especially the 1st Kansas game , if he kicked we could of beat them , same v Bucks he gets too greedy ends up with nothing

[@brownbutta93]

Anyone that says the Raiders need to draft Hunter over a QB need to leave that dope alone

[@KennyP99941]

Not on dope but Sanders or Ward should not be drafted in the first round. Just because you draft a QB in the first round doesn't make them first round talents. Neither have 1st round traits. In any other draft they would be looked at as mid second round prospects. Hunter is a difference maker, you sound like the type of person who wanted to pass on Brock Bowers because we drafted Mayer the year before. Or a couple of year ago wanting to draft Malik Willis and Desmond Ritter in the first round. Both are similar prospects to Ward and Sanders

[@brownbutta93]

@ no i wanted them to draft bowers instead of a lineman or db especially the db from bama. how much you want to bet sanders is better than williams he’s avfirst round talent ward mid first but

[@KennyP99941]

@@brownbutta93 Sure you did. You will never pay. Sanders is a good college QB. He is Teddy Bridgewater.

[@DaTrnity]

Qb or bust. Upper management need to out Aiden on IR and run out 4th string qb. Qb is there for us to get

[@KennyP99941]

@@DaTrnity This team is not a QB away from competing. Your tag line should be QB will bust. When you don't have structure to support a QB he will fail. We have a bad roster with terrible coaches. Not the recipe for success.

[@coreykuhl3079]

If AP stays, he should draft Ward and bring in Shannon Dawson from Miami. He has the #1 offense in college, and has Ward playing the best in the country.

[@KurtAlbers]

Don't limit yourself in your thinking that a franchise QB is found with the #1 draft pick or even first round picks. History shows us that franchise QB's can be found in any round of the draft. You just have to identify who your guy is. There are way more first round QB draft busts than there are successes. The numbers don't lie. The only QB the Raiders drafted that took them to the SB was Ken Stabler. We've had better luck with journey man vets.

[@pigspigs76]

Give me two QBs Allar and Rourke, don’t want to go all in on a first round qb if trading back is possible

[@JamesWilliams-ey5kn]

I heard Aiden knee was not so bad and he will start

[@Domgrove_5]

It didn't look bad at all

[@anthonyvelasquez92]

Probably they recorded this before the report came out that the AOC injury was just a bone bruise

[@xs2dan]

Would you value JJ McCarthy more than Shedeur or Cam Ward? Because if you do, with Sam Darnold playing lights out for the Vikings, I wonder if the Raiders could pick up JJ McCarthy for a second round pick, trade down from number one and get some blue chip linemen? Or Hunter / Jeanty and someone else... 🤔

[@SIlverBlackToday]

JJ McCarthy was their first rounder last year...they're not trading him. Why would they? Darnold is a free agent. Makes no sense.

[@xs2dan]

@@SIlverBlackToday I dunno - what if you don't extend Darnold after being succesful with him. He's a fomer 1st-round pick, only 27 and they might be able to extend him for relatively little. I'm just saying: It wouldn't hurt for Tom Telesco to make a call, ask how the rehab is going, and casually see what they want for him, especially if he was high on his draftboard last year. ;) I guess what I'm saying, is that Shedeur or Cam in my opinion are reaches with the no. 1 or 2 pick in the draft and this may be a way of getting better value.

[@Domgrove_5]

All the silly fans that wanted AP over Harbaugh. Pure idiotic, tried to tell everyone we should have went all out to get Harbaugh. Proven winner and culture builder vs unproven LB coach 🤦🏾‍♂️.

[@MANN8118]

So was John madden

[@Domgrove_5]

@ Don’t dare compare AP to the legend Madden

[@TheTribe823]

I think you guys entirely missed the fact that the run game got better by subtracting James from the line up. You talked about maintaining the standards... We should think of McCormick as a practice squad guy that can make a few runs if you're in a pinch with injuries, especially considering he doesn't do well at all in pass pro. It's one of the biggest things the Raiders have missed since allowing Jacobs to walk. As for AP, he's a rookie head coach, rookies always make mistakes, fans should expect it. Jerry Rice dropped a ton of passes his rookie year. Peyton Manning threw more INT's than anyone in the history of the league. The Raiders can't afford to keep firing coaches every F-ing year. People act like AP ruined a superbowl caliber team. The Raiders have been bad for 25 years, it's going to take a few years for one coach to build the team to their specifications. Minshew was the best QB on the roster coming into the season which meant they were going to lose - Mahomes and Herbert are in the division, Allen, Jackson, Burrow and Stroud are in the conference.

[@SIlverBlackToday]

You make some great points...thanks for the comment. Yet, you are overlooking and glossing over the utter failure of AP on almost every level. The game management, time management, inability to keep drama to a minimum and not even coming close to his promise on the identity of what his team would be. As we say over and over again...we're not saying he's a failure due to the W/L record. We also have been consistent since LAST SUMMER saying a rookie coach will make mistakes and it's to be expected. But the AMOUNT and FREQUENCY of those mistakes has never improved over the course of the entire season. Through 25 games, he has the same record as Josh McDaniels. Yes, you want stability but you DON'T keep a coach that is clearly overmatched and not capable of doing the job because you don't want to change. That's the definition of insanity. Thanks for watching.

[@TheTribe823]

@@SIlverBlackToday It all makes for great debate doesn't it?! A new rookie head coach means another year of rookie mistakes from a head coach and another reset on bringing the type of players in that fit yet another system. Personally, I think AP needs to stop listening to all the former failed head coaches he brought in and trust his instincts. I would expect him to have learned from his mistakes this year going into next season. The players play hard for this coach, fans should stop being short sighted because the results aren't immediate. Let's go ahead and fire the next coach for his rookie mistakes too and start over again and again.

[@SIlverBlackToday]

@@TheTribe823 Who says it has to be a another rookie head coach? Also, Demeco Ryans was a rookie head coach and look what he did last year. AP is not a good coach. Rookie or not.

[@TheTribe823]

@@SIlverBlackToday LOL Who is this mysterious experienced head coach you think the Raiders will hire that will lead them to victories? Tomlin? Andy Reid?

[@SIlverBlackToday]

@@TheTribe823 You missed the point. AP had ZERO experience in the NFL. Zero. An experienced coach can be an OC/DC...come on.

[@rickl2633]

I would trade our first round pick to the Vikings for JJ McCarthy. JJ McCarthy is better than Ward and Sanders. He is also younger than both of those guys. McCarthy looked great in the preseason and his upside off of the charts. Michigan's offense was trash this year without McCarthy.

[@JamesWilliams-ey5kn]

Bone bruise

[@anthonyvelasquez92]

Probably was recorded before the report came out about the bone bruise

[@KennyP99941]

Neither of these Qb's are worth the 1 or 2 pick or should be drafted in the top 20. There is not a big drop of with the QB's. Drew Allar or Garret Nussmeir are just as good if they come out. And those QB's need another year and will be top 10 picks next year. Both are better all round QB's than Sanders or Ward.

[@SIlverBlackToday]

Completely disagree. Also, most of the respected draft analysts we talk to disagree with you as well. But, Kenny, apparently you know more than them. Please let us know where you evaluate draft picks so we can follow your stuff! Thanks for watching.

[@KennyP99941]

@@SIlverBlackToday We will see. Just like a couple of years ago. These same draft "experts" said Malik Willis and Desmond Ritter were first round picks, they said Will Levis was a top 5 pick. These draft experts copy each other and are never called out when they are wrong. SO next year when Nussmeier and Allar are top 10 picks. Will you then say that I'm an expert on your show. I'll hold you to it. Then you can get your information from me, since I'll be more credible

[@KennyP99941]

@@SIlverBlackToday Receipts are starting to come in One of the more notable critiques came from NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero, who stated on The Rich Eisen Show on Friday that some within the league do not grade Sanders as a first-round prospect. This assertion has sparked widespread discussion among fans and analysts, questioning the evaluative criteria scouts use.

[@albertking1503]

Trade for Trevor Lawrence,draft Travis hunter

[@marcuscooper9544]

This is not a good QB class - why on earth would we "have" to use the #1 overall pick on a QB that's worse than McCarthey/Penix/Nix from last season?!? That's just throwing draft capital away. Completely agree that a QB on a rookie deal is invaluable - but you don't have to take one at the top of round 1 - Brock Purdy and Jalen Hurts have been to as many Super Bowls as Joe Burrow, and more than Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson... and every other 1st round QB in the last decade that's not called Mahomes. We just have to draft a good player, we don't have to draft them with our 1st pick if they're not worth it.

[@SIlverBlackToday]

Sanders would have been projected to go 4th amongst all QBs in LAST year's draft...which was much better so completely disagree.

[@Gershom-ology]

Moe likes to block people on X lol....too scared for debate. and yes, there is a WAY Raiders don't draft a QB with the #1 pick if they don't think they deserve it. You have no insight on this. Hondo Carpenter already said there's other QB's that might move up during and after the combine. Your not a scout Moe...ur an ARM. CHAIR. GM. WITH A BIG EGO! 🤣

[@ScottSweaty]

Even if they get the 1st overall pick they’re absolutely taking a QB. Not sure how you can think any differently no matter who says they might not. Hondo has been wrong as many times as he’s been right. It’s literally his job to get fans to engage on his platforms. The team will be taking a QB , with or without the 1st overall pick. They aren’t risking trading down in hopes of losing out on one of the top 2 prospects at that position. Bortles rocketed up the draft in 2014 too when Jacksonville took him ahead of the raiders. How’d that work out for them? 😂🏈🏴‍☠️

[@Gershom-ology]

@@ScottSweaty neither of us knows...so your "absolutes" are a mirage. Last year everyone kept saying they would get a QB aka "get their guy" line in the first round...didn't happen. thank god, Brock is a once in a lifetime TE...what if they think the same for someone else that's not a QB? what if they think there's a sleeper in the 2nd? what if darnold signs...ur not a GM, wake up