Rail Conductor REACTS: Unstoppable Part 1

[@chpalmer2007]

At about 1hr 27 minutes into the movie when they show the speedometer of the red truck.. notice that it is not a Ford F350 speedo.. but instead that is the shot of "Elinor's (Gone in 60 Seconds Mustang) speedometer that they used for this scene.

[@ericdraven7857]

I see it everytime hollywood uses that. Unstoppable is not the only time it has been reused.

[@waynejohnson3214]

That was the automatic brake he was slapping back and forth, not the independent. If I remember correctly, the 1206 brake line was not connected, so the automatic would do nothing to the train. Furthermore, he was placing the automatic in emergency. Once that happens, it stays there until it's reset, requiring one minute to do so. The energy required to do what Denzel's character was doing would be tremendous. It wouldn't be accomplished by a flabby old man. It's obvious whatever "rail expert" hired to consult on this movie merely collected a paycheck, went home to a scotch and soda then laughed his hiney off.

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

🤣🤣 very true Wayne lol.

[@kensingtonchapp4819]

I work with one of the consultants. He was on set most of the time, and every time he was asked for his expertise, the production staff would reject his advice and tell him "yeah that won't work."

[@brilliantman79]

Great upload! Parts of this movie was filmed in my area! I remember seeing film crews daily when I would drive to and from work.

[@Metalrails]

Good catch, noticing where they didn't even have AWVR 1206 on the rear of the train anymore. Someone screwed up with letting that cut into the movie. For the record, every locomotive in the movie actually came from a real railroad. Including CP 9777, 9782, 9758, 9751 AC4400CW's, W&LE 6354, 6353, 6352, 6351 SD40-2's, and SWP 2002 GP11.

[@25mfd]

@3:40... 🤣🤣🤣🤣... that's the part that got me, i mean COME ON... REALLY!??!?!??!... the whole train now up on one rail in the curve... i just totally lost it at that point

[@Quenical]

Mfs when they find out that movies are meant to be enjoyed and not nitpicked:

[@andywomack3414]

The most realistic train movie I've seen is called "The Train." Set in France at the end of WW2, starring Burt Lancaster as a station master (seemed to be French equivalent to US Trainmaster), it actually took the effort to realistic portray rail operations. One scene in particular, where the locomotive was being uncoupled from the moving train, had Lancaster get into the position to pull the pin (link-and pin coupling), who then closes the air connection between engine and train, signal the man running the locomotive who is shown setting the independent brake, bunching the slack so Lancaster can pull the pin on the coupler, then shows the engineer releasing the brake and opening the throttle in order to run away from the train. Their plan was to cause a wreck, as the Nazis were attempting to move a train-load of valuable art out of France ahead of the advancing Allied Army. In the end, many people died to keep the art in France. I normally avoid watching movies about trains. Knowing a bit about rail operations makes it difficult to watch most Hollywood train movies as it seems little effort is made to get the facts about trains right. As it appears the case with the movie reviewed here.

[@lennoxschannel7484]

Silver Streak, Runaway Train and Unstoppable are very realistic Train movies. They are loosely based on true runaway incidents that happened in the U.S. in 1953, 1962, and 2002.

[@andywomack3414]

@@lennoxschannel7484 Thanks for replying. When I was about twelve my dad showed me an area of lighter concrete on the DC Union Station platform that was where the GG1 from the "Congressional" crashed into the basement after losing most of it's brakes in '53. No longer visible now, as far as I know.

[@lennoxschannel7484]

@@andywomack3414 Well this ain’t about fighters, it’s about trains. But your welcome. You should enjoy those films I mention.

[@andywomack3414]

@@lennoxschannel7484 "Silver Streak" resembles "The Congressional" crash in some ways, and is a good movie. "The Train" is a good war movie that accurately depicted railroading as well as war. As such, not so much to enjoy, but to inform.

[@lennoxschannel7484]

@@andywomack3414 Oh, but what about the crashes of Runaway Train and Unstoppable?

[@EleganceTunes]

It's absolutely mind-blowing...the way he hit the independent brake 3 times at the Stanton Curve at the perfect time without derailing...that's a 200 IQ move right there

[@NOVARailandWeatherEnthusiast]

And he’s supposed to be a rookie on his first day! 😂😂

[@chpalmer2007]

LOL!!! We have seen this movie no less than ten times.. I drive my wife crazier each time pointing out all the errors.. errors that are put in the movie to make it more melodramatic she and my kids also remind me every time. Haven't started watching your video quite yet as I comment.. Ten times because most of the time it is just on as background.. and fairly safe for little ears in our house.

[@lennoxschannel7484]

The movie has no errors, It is correctly based around the true story.

[@keithsuggs7935]

My wife kept telling me to be quiet because I kept saying, "come on." It was very unrealistic. The beginning where after the guy fell off and all the MoW guys just pointed and laughed. Then the controller "magically" goes from dynamic 8 to setup through the gate to power and advances to notch 8 all by itself. How about the girl, Trainmaster I think, with the arm load of doughnuts? They tell her, we've got a "roller" and she just looks annoyed and says go get it with a HIGH RAIL TRUCK! 🤣🤣🤣

[@paranormaladventurer4922]

Ghosts can do some powerful things don't you know?!

[@railfanlynx]

Paranormal Buff: technically poltergeists are

[@lennoxschannel7484]

The actual throttle In the runaway CSX actually was set the wrong way.

[@iamlinda100]

well the movie is based on a true story

[@keithsuggs7935]

@@iamlinda100 Very loosely.

[@guitarsandmusclecars]

Ah so fun fact: Those are Canadian Pacific ACs they repainted the fake railroad colors for this movie, and all this was based off the CSX 8888 incident. Those actually did not have engineers or conductors in them, they were setup as remote units and were overridden to run over 10-15 mph.

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

that's wild lol.. cool info. I appreciate that guitars, hope all is well buddy

[@kensingtonchapp4819]

Interesting, considering a coworker of mine was one of the engineers running that train during filming

[@audiodude74]

@@kensingtonchapp4819 My brother was in the runaway locomotive during the filming. His name is Chris Lewis.

[@tucko11]

If they would’ve put a Big Mac fries and a coke inside that cab of the locomotive maybe duey would’ve caught up to it at the beginning lol😂

[@georgewilson1184]

You need to checkout runnaway train it takes place in Alaska

[@marioleija4283]

He threw it in emergency there’s nothing more he can do, I didn’t notice any dynamic brakes

[@benjlar1902]

what?

[@ComputerWhiz_]

Something I don't understand about the who CSX 8888 incident that the movie is based on is that the engineer apparently tried to set the dynamic brake before exiting the train to change the switch. But apparently he did not correctly setup the dynamic brake, which set the train to full throttle instead. But on the SD40-2, isn't the dynamic brake lever separate from the throttle? So how would that even happen? Are we to assume that the engineer used the wrong lever or does the SD40-2 come with an alternate control scheme that uses the throttle lever to also control the dynamic brake?

[@ForrestLambert.2022]

The conductor gets his foot caught in between the couplers when the slack came in and busted his foot up

[@emkingz93]

We had an engineer derail on a dead end track a few weeks back, flipped a hallcon van multiple times as the railcars were going on the ground. Luckily one of our conductors saved the hallcon driver who was in there asleep previous to the derail. One of the other conductors joked that the engineer who derailed saw this movie the day before the derail. 🤣

[@24notter]

As a MOW worker, torch and 10 min is all i need to stopnthe train before it gets this fast

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

Making a derail on the mainline is a good way to stop it lol.

[@djstrains]

and didnt trip a ground fault relay, lol.

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

touché DJ lol

[@DivergingClearProductions]

The locomotives at 7:00 were AC4400CW's. I'm still learning too😂

[@djstrains]

I got copyright strike so I moved my review to patreon only and used drop box. 10 minutes.

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

I somehow have not gotten one yet lol.. fingers crossed

[@djstrains]

@@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors I sent you an email last week.. check your spam folder, maybe?

[@marieancelotf.8443]

I love this movie 🍿

[@kesha3782]

Did you make a part2?

[@LightMindedJedi]

when part of the train was not present, that was an error in the filming

[@EleganceTunes]

This movie is really good at building up tension...to be fair, manually breaking each fraight car it's a brilliant plan if you ask me

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

I still have not seen the entire movie. I am sure it’s a great film, I’m just being a bit extra and a critic lol.

[@EleganceTunes]

@@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors You HAVE to see it

[@maxrshelltrack7443]

Manual braking each car is what they did before conventional airbrakes.

[@cresentchris1536]

yoooooo!!!!! ive never notice that 1206 was gon lmao and nah they are AC4400cws

[@billjoang]

Needed Trainmaster to put up a banner 😂

[@NASCARCHAT24]

SPOILER 🚨 After frank notices that the runaway train was on the same track as his, dispatch tells him that there is a nearby siding, frank agrees but after a few math problems he told dispatch to realign the switch, frank keeps going on the mainline. After a few hours, Connie tells him that he might see triple 7’s nose any minute now. Dispatch switched frank onto a rip track. So now they are playing “chicken” with the runaway. Triple 7 ends up hitting the last boxcar of franks consist. After the end of triple 7’s consist passes franks locomotive, he notices the open coupler on the end of triple 7. So frank decided to decouple from his cars and chase after it in reverse and back onto the mainline. After a few minutes, Oscar Galvin (VP of operations) notices this on the news, he ordered Connie to switch them off of the main. Connie ignores Galvin and lets frank and will chase after it. After hours, they soon managed to hook up, but will notices that the grain car seal opened, Frank’s locomotive got grain all over it. After the grain had been emptied, Will saw that the pin didn’t fall, so frank tells him to go down there but be careful. Will manages to hook up 1206 to 777. Doing that his foot got caught up between the couplers. After getting back up onto 1206, Will was bleeding really bad. Frank asked if he was alright. Will says yes. After they were hooked up frank starts “tug of war” between 1206 and the runaway 777. Frank notices that they are speeding up. And not slowing down. So Will gave Frank an idea of manually brake the cars on triple 7 to make it slower. Please correct me if I’m wrong

[@lennoxschannel7484]

Those are literally lots of reasons why the movie is incredible after all.

[@sethjessbry32]

This is the best train movie ever made don’t you say anything bad about it or else! 🤣

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lennoxschannel7484]

He has a point. It is the best train movie ever, and is literally underrated.

[@a-a-ron4679]

@@lennoxschannel7484show us on the doll where they touched you.

[@Quenical]

@@a-a-ron4679is it really that made to say a movie is good and underrated?

[@christherailfan5851]

He wasn’t hooked up to air and still used the automatic

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

some reason I was thinking independent but def the auto, lol. This movie seems goofy already

[@lennoxschannel7484]

He Peabody hooked it up when he was dangling beneath the rear of 1206.

[@TheVerySleepyCalmGuy]

The trains are the names The front of the train is triple 7 and the back there is a second train also know as 757 The secondary train is 7375 and 7345 and lastly is 1206 thats not how to slow down a full speed train if they made jud sterwart alive he will be in the back and so does 1206 is they use their brakes i may slow down

[@LightMindedJedi]

not quite correct. the second engine on the runaway was actually called 767

[@ForrestLambert.2022]

That was the Automatic he was throwing back and forth. so lets put it in emergency and then release fast then emergency again. FACEPALM

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

My ignorance was showing, it was the automatic for sure lol.

[@ForrestLambert.2022]

@@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors haha it's fine. I'm a ex railroader myself from Massachusetts.

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

@@ForrestLambert.2022 I am glad you're here man. Thanks for spending some your time checking out the channel. I appreciate it buddy

[@ForrestLambert.2022]

@@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors no problem brother

[@lennoxschannel7484]

That’s a good thing right?

[@ditchpatcher]

The movie crew only had like 25 cars that's why the train was so short and 1206 was gone

[@Sl3dnecks4life]

That's what 1206 lifted. 777 was 39 cars. I believe and needed throttle 8 to move it 😂

[@Dan.IdahoNorthernRy]

Unstoppable is a good movie, you just have to throw out everything that you know about railroading. The train going across the bridge is cgi and your eyes are not deceiving you as they were to cut the view of the end of the train

[@lennoxschannel7484]

Literally they didn’t use CGI in any effects in the movie, not even the derailment or explosions. Tony Scott is a expert at film genre and deserves high praise!

[@ajsport31]

@@lennoxschannel7484 then what’s with the train being on 6 wheels on that curve

[@rmgilyard]

@@ajsport31 that literally did happen when 8888 tilted on several curves.

[@ajsport31]

@@rmgilyard well yeah, but the movie over-exaggerates it.

[@rmgilyard]

At least it stays true to the source material unlike some movies. (Cough Cough Atomic Train! Cough Couch)

[@NS_8103]

I’m friends with an engineer who used to work with NS and when my dad mentioned this movie to him he said, “that movie is so full of shit.”

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

LOL

[@lennoxschannel7484]

That engineer is “full of s#it!” He doesn’t know that Unstoppable is based on a true story and that it payed close details too the runaway incident. These guys, they be dead-brained when it comes to action film genres based on real life events. Don’t listen to these dead-brained idiots. Unstoppable is highly underrated and needs to be praised for entirely.

[@lennoxschannel7484]

How is this movie made of S##t?!

[@rmgilyard]

Your father’s mind is full of s###!

[@rmgilyard]

You full of shit man! This movie is a masterpiece, anyone who thinks otherwise is a dead beta imbecile!

[@officialFortherails]

1206 seemed to just despawn. 🤣

[@Hh51953]

Hey Railroad talk could you react maybe to an episode of Thomas the tank engine since you were a rail conductor? And Thomas is a Train. I think that would be an interesting video.

[@dwaynecomp6136]

Hey it's Hollywood man, they can do anything to make it believable.

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

They did a good job lol. I need to watch the entire movie one day

[@dwaynecomp6136]

@@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors it's actually not a bad movie, but for some that know better a few things are a little far fetched.

[@lennoxschannel7484]

We’ll for a few things things weren’t stretched o it to make it unbelievable. They payed close details with true stories of the runaway movie. This ain’t Hoolywood we’re talking about it’s CSX!!!

[@anscrailfanner6812]

Haha 😂. Yeah, there’re many flaws in this movie, but I still found it quite enjoyable. The presentation of the movie is good with its fast-paced and action-packed scenes, but from a real-world railroading standpoint, train 777 would’ve gone flying off that curve easily. And for the locomotives on the front of the runaway train, I think they’re just D9-44CW’s/C44-9W’s or AC44CW’s. They weren’t SD70-type locomotives.

[@lennoxschannel7484]

There aren’t flaws in the movie. Yes they might have made a few actual errors in the production, but they still made it as accurate as can be possible. Rail experts are just dead-brained introverts who want to keep their own positions as secured as possible. Very selfish!

[@anscrailfanner6812]

@@lennoxschannel7484 Whatever man lol. Definitely not true for all those people in the profession. Nothing wrong with being introverted either. It’s normal. Keeping to yourself in this disgusting society known as humanity is justified.

[@lennoxschannel7484]

@@anscrailfanner6812 then explain the whole negativity among railfans when in reality Unstoppable showed positive feedback.

[@a-a-ron4679]

@@lennoxschannel7484show the engineer where the railfans touched you on this doll.

[@forsonchildren3228]

It's a movie guys, it's never going to accurate because they have to add drama to keep people involved. I am the real conductor from the real runaway train. I still work for CSX. I am a engineer have 22 years service now.

[@lennoxschannel7484]

It’s realistic and based on a true story.

[@a-a-ron4679]

@@lennoxschannel7484here this guy is again. Come on. Show us on the doll where the railfans touched you.

[@javix2013]

One thing that occurred to me, would it work to stop the train, to shoot with M16 rifles at the engine of the locomotive so that it breaks and stops working?, that would not stop the train? what do you think?

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

If you were to shoot the brake pipe to cause it to have a massive leak, or shoot the compressor causing it to stop. It wouldn’t eventually stop the train miles and miles down the track lol

[@lennoxschannel7484]

Well they actually did that in real life, just with a sheriff aiming a MTS rifle at the fuel safety switch of an SD40.

[@codyrapp7253]

Ac4400cw is what 777 and 767 was.

[@Rod1011000]

Lol after working trains and watching this, lol shits hilarious

[@rmgilyard]

There nothing funny about an incident and a movie that could have ended up in disaster!

[@anscrailfanner6812]

Here’s another clip IF you’re still interested. 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2qUgWevad2tlaM

[@marieancelotf.8443]

Hello I’m a new subscriber 🇺🇸 🚂 ⭐️

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

Thank you for the support!

[@ClarissaPacker]

I'm pretty sure they used cgi in parts of the movie because I doubt any train could make that curve

[@dragon_ninja_2186]

Admittedly it’s not a realistic train movie but it’s sure a tense highly dramatic film by the late Tony Scott. Also to be honest if this was realistic it would be boring!

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

You’re right, 3-6 hours of sitting in a siding or outside of the yard 🤣

[@cleverorb5914]

You should react to super 8 train scene

[@rxrtraindriver2845]

Told ‘ya…. Unbelievable

[@lennoxschannel7484]

T’s not “Unbelievable”, it’s “Unstoppable”!

[@darrellh4161]

Admit it, a movie would be extremely boring if you kept it realistic. Railroad is the most boring job I’ve ever had 😴

[@treavy1]

Can u react to polar express

[@paul.-jj6yh]

Do pelham 123

[@reginaldwestbrooks7253]

It's hard to me to understand why this guy would try to destroy a great movie he honestly analyze and Nick pick the the movie to death. Guy is trying to do too much

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

I never said the movie was bad, in fact I still haven’t watched the entire movie. This is simply me looking at the different scenes and based off my experience working for the railroad is it real or likely to be true. Unfortunately it’s not. I’m not saying the producers didn’t do their job by causing suspense I’m sure it’s a great movie but like most movies they create scenes and scenarios that are no way possible in real life but still create something great like Top Gun, or Top Gun 2 for example.

[@reginaldwestbrooks7253]

@@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors didn't say you said the movie was bad it was a great movie. You was annoying because you wanted to be annoying and show off your knowledge of trains trying to find something wrong to nitpick. It's a movie

[@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors]

@@reginaldwestbrooks7253 my channel in case you haven’t noticed is called “railroad talk” where I help educate and prepare the new conductors coming into the industry.. a lot of people have seen this movie and it’s important that new conductors understand this isn’t real life.. I don’t “show off” my skills.. in fact I share everything I have learned for free… imagine that. Perspective…

[@reginaldwestbrooks7253]

@@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors good luck with that. A long time ago my grandmother and her sister used to wash trains with the men

[@SeanJAnimations]

@@Railroad_TalkNOutdoors I'm looking to potentially get into the industry soon, and I understand it's changed alot, but nonetheless, I appreciate all the info you give out to people like me. Union Pacific is doing these train crew training type things where no prior experience is required, but anyways thanks for the info m8. We appreciate it. :)

[@peterelichlll8905]

Cut the air it's done end of story

[@peterelichlll8905]

Dump the air it's over lol

[@kensingtonchapp4819]

Ever tried doing that at 70mph?

[@kensingtonchapp4819]

@@peterelichlll8905 how? No one's on the head end and the air isn't cut in to the cars.

[@ohpoleez]

BTW, that's not the independent, it's the automatic. You could flap your hands like bird wings and get the same effect.

[@ryanq1988]

Hello would I be able to call you if I sent ya my number in an email? I have a week to accept job and just need some info, thanks!

[@ohpoleez]

I'm an engineer. 35 years all class one. I never laughed so hard in my life at that stupid fucking movie....

[@rmgilyard]

You f@@@ing stupid man! This movie is an all time classic!

[@ohpoleez]

I'm pretty sure your not a rail.