Chiltern Railways unveils refurbished Class 168

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@benjibatch Ай бұрын

I love how he basically said we’re the back up for GWR and Avanti/LNWR when things go tits up!

@TheHoveHeretic Ай бұрын

A better option than Sussex has when the Brighton Line does that. Add an hour for a guided tour of the Arun Valley and Nohampton.

@lnwrtrainspotter Ай бұрын

Great to hear these trains are getting a nice refurb, also glad to hear that the 165s will be getting a light refurbishment. I know they are older and won't be around as long so I can understand why they haven't been fully reburnished but some new seat covers and carpets would go a long way.

@sierraalphaalphabravo9705 Ай бұрын

Travelled on 168003 last night - didn't realise it was a brand-new refurb since I live on a diet of 165s in my neck of the woods, usually. Very comfortable seats, power sockets to burn and a really fresh feel. Kudos!

@ZaphodHarkonnen Ай бұрын

Nice to see they involved the cleaners on adjustments for the refurb. Seemingly little things like that make a huge difference on the long term feel of the equipment for passengers and crew.

@Andrewjg_89 Ай бұрын

Nice to see you doing refurbishment on the Class 168 Clubman DMUs.

@alfiehnotts Ай бұрын

Think the ex-tpe mk5 sets would make sense, given they also use 68s and are barely 5 years old

@berillyispog Ай бұрын

They said they were considering it so it could happen

@aldertravels Ай бұрын

That would make my travels so much more enjoyable! (also omg hello there!)

@cam43002 Ай бұрын

Mk5s are crap

@antigod8385 Ай бұрын

@@aldertravelsit wouldnt mk5s are awful, ride quality is abhorrent and seats & build quality is really not good

@spottymaxy1628 Ай бұрын

The reliability…. Also, the interior comfort would be a HUGE downgrade

@Trainguy001 Ай бұрын

I saw this train a few weeks ago at Aylesbury depot

@TransportGeekery Ай бұрын

Interior feels quite Scotrail

@clivebroadhead4381 Ай бұрын

It's supprising the Chilltern Line hasn't already been electrified like the other London lines.

@markcf83 Ай бұрын

Forty years ago Marylebone was booked to be shut. The transformation of the Chiltern line is quite astonishing.

@nathanw9770 Ай бұрын

Savour the moment while it lasts, because when this line does get electrified it's IEP's and Aventra's again 😭.

@oopsallluke Ай бұрын

when i lived out in bucks the problem was there being any space to even get on one of those 3 carriage trains, so unless they increased capacity i’m sure some will struggle to even see the aesthetic changes

@laycock1504 Ай бұрын

It may help if engines was switched off at stations when waiting time.

@AFCManUk Ай бұрын

It'd help even more if the whole line was 3rd Rail electrified. Would have access to a wide range of better rolling stock, and faster journey times, to allow real competition and a proper alternative to the WCML.

@Greggs30806 Ай бұрын

@@AFCManUkIf/when they start electrification of the Chiltern mainline. They will realistically use AC overhead wires. I very much doubt they'll upgrade the mainline with 3rd rail electrification.

@AFCManUk Ай бұрын

@@Greggs30806 To be fair, I was only thinking about the Chiltern Line between Aylesbury and Marylebone. It makes more sense to be 3rd rail on that line as, for the majority of it, it is shared with London Underground tracks and would only need the 3rd rails extended from Amersham to Aylesbury Vale Parkway and the small stretch of track between Harrow-on-the-Hill and Marylebone itself. Granted, the Chiltern Mainline between Marylebone and Birmingham could be AC overhead, but makes more financial sense to be 3rd rail on the local line, where it only needs extending from existing LUL tracks.

@mdhazeldine Ай бұрын

@@AFCManUkNew 3rd rail is basically banned now. Hence why the North Downs and Reading to Basingstoke lines are still diesel even though they're surrounded by 3rd rail. Those lines will probably go battery eventually.

@AFCManUk Ай бұрын

@@mdhazeldine Really? Banned? What on earth for?

@AFCManUk Ай бұрын

Great stuff,,,AND 2 + 2 seating, always better than 3+2. Now, PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PLEASE refurbish the tired old Class 165's on the Aylesbury-Marylebone routes!

@axethepenguin Ай бұрын

They are really horrible they make me not like Chiltern 😅

@AFCManUk Ай бұрын

@@axethepenguin Same, but I have no other choice but to use them when I want to go to London. Need more locals to complain to the council and local MP.

@petersmith4455 Ай бұрын

yes, but you can't beat the old cl 117's for an exciting ride and see the road ahead

@Legofunboy1 Ай бұрын

I saw this train the other day

@markcf83 Ай бұрын

Looks quite good to be fair. Hopefully there'll be looked after by the passengers who use them.

@Harrythepot Ай бұрын

The CR fleet needs a total upgrade. I have been using CR for about 21 years with the same rolling stock.

@spottymaxy1628 Ай бұрын

Besides capacity issues, they aren’t too bad, at least compared to other TOC’s rolling stock. The 165 is certainly crap though

@Trainman10715 Ай бұрын

@@spottymaxy1628 i wouldnt define being the most reliable train in their fleet as crap

@spottymaxy1628 Ай бұрын

@@Trainman10715 their interiors could certianrly do with some work

@Mgameing123 Ай бұрын

@@Trainman10715 Go ride a 2 car 165 at peak time on the Amersham line and enjoy the 2+3 seating layout if your lucky enough to get a seat.

@stevem-h3562 Ай бұрын

Given that the owners have been taking more out of the franchise rather than putting anything in for a long time, its not exactly a high bar to cross to make it a "significant investment". Just glad its an investment at all.

@CarlSmith-bs4qx Ай бұрын

@@stevem-h3562 This is a late 80s DMU design based on the 165 of a production run in the early 90s. Hardly modern.

@Anonymoususer_8823 Ай бұрын

Maybe Chiltern Railways should let the Class 168s go to East-West Rail and to be used on Oxford-Bedford-Cambridge route. The Class 168 does look identical to the Class 170 except some that look like Class 165 & Class 166 that are used on GWR.

@DigitalDiabloUK Ай бұрын

Nice to see them not absolutely coated in bugs on the driving cab 😂

@TheHoveHeretic Ай бұрын

The decline in insect numbers is alarming.

@clivebroadhead4381 Ай бұрын

Great to see these diesel trains getting refurbished. I trust they will be cascaded to the North of Scotland when the Chiltern Line is eventually electrified.

@oliverstemp9132 Ай бұрын

165s getting a ‘light touch refurbishment’? They are the ones that need the work the most. The 168s were already OK. 😂

@oliverstemp9132 Ай бұрын

@@dave1985uk because the 165 replacement is so far away…

@jck_crwthrmtb9413 Ай бұрын

@@oliverstemp9132do you know what the class 165s will get replaced with?

@oliverstemp9132 Ай бұрын

@@jck_crwthrmtb9413 nope

@Trainman10715 Ай бұрын

@@dave1985uk they're not getting replaced, the tender for their replacement was cancelled, hence why Chiltern are moving on to refurbishing the 165s once the 168s are done

@Tsass0 Ай бұрын

Nice Clubman

@trainspotterlive2133 Ай бұрын

There are a load of mk5 coaches in store so use them to replace the mk3

@Trainman10715 Ай бұрын

too many issues

@RobertBlack-m8u Ай бұрын

Use the former trans Pennine Mark five stock! The refurbished 168 looks great!

@Trainman10715 Ай бұрын

too many problems with them

@JoseWhon Ай бұрын

Why haven't Chiltern decarbonised AT ALL since their formation in 1996?..

@WildWildWeasel Ай бұрын

Continuing ro refurb ancient networker stock will surely backfire soon

@neilpearson157 Ай бұрын

Is it my imagination or are the seats in line with the windows? If you want to see how NOT to do that then travel on the Greater Anglia 720's.

@CarlSmith-bs4qx Ай бұрын

A tired 20 plus year old train is refurbished, hardly the grand affair it is made out to be.

@Trainman10715 Ай бұрын

theyre far from tired though

@CarlSmith-bs4qx Ай бұрын

@@Trainman10715 appreciate the MTU prime movers are swapped with refurbished ones every few years but the Voith units sound worn. Certainly feels its age in my opinion.

@Trainman10715 Ай бұрын

@@CarlSmith-bs4qx so the transmissions can simply be replaced, there's nothing a modern dmu can do that a class 168 can't, replacing worn parts is what maintenance is for

@bfcmik Ай бұрын

Love how Chiltern are bigging up their £12.5 million spend given that they haven't spent a single pound on upgrading anything in the 29 years they have held the franchise. Whoops, I am mistaken, it is only 8 years since the last Chiltern investment according to this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGXFeKatYrOVacksi=JurpR0Jd6OagFEIJ