Chinese Railways - Learn EVERYTHING About Them!

[@rabbitazteca23]

i have used their high speed railway... i must say personally their railway system is the best in the world. there is really nothing like it. The expansion, reach, punctuality, speed, tech, etc... all come together beautifully

[@hcjet]

not very good production, he even didn't use correct Chinese map...1876, Taiwan was not occupied by Japanese yet, it happened in 1895, then 1945 China took back Taiwan after victory of WW2; i very doubt about how much facts in railway it talks

[@jerrygereden]

Not to mention their railway stations are like international airports. Just so eye opening

[@fouadbenrezzak8398]

That's because the government funding those projects For them the com party of china The welfare of the people is the welfare of the nation Those projects are for most not profitability hence Most of them will not produce profit at all But looking at the bigger picture it will help boost the economy Facilitating the movement of people and goods Not just railway systems you have malls parks roads and more They even did a railway system in the remote areas of china

[@mdhazeldine]

Given how much railway China has built in recent years, I'm surprised we aren't talking about China ALL the time. Thanks for putting some attention on that part of the world. There's definitely some lessons we can learn from the Chinese these days.

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

Because USA media company don't like train

[@donnydrumpf9563]

@@carkawalakhatulistiwa i guess, it's more like that United Satans of AmeriKKKa's media companies don't like China!! Hahaha.. hahaha.. hahaha..

[@dummy9517]

Because China is always in the news for negative reasons, and it's not USA, Europe or media's fault

[@dijikstra8]

Seriously, we have a lot to learn from the way China has built their railways, it's a very interesting case study. But it may also be difficult to replicate elsewhere, they have the unique advantage of long term planning and central control of the railways in a very large country.

[@alwaysthinktwice6612]

@@carkawalakhatulistiwa USA pushes cars, not trains. With a growing population they need to rethink this.

[@imwsss726]

1:59 Some part of Wusong(Woosung)-Shanghai railway became what is now Shanghai Metro Line 3. Line 3 itself uses the space left by the demolition of part of the old downtown railways, so this line runs entirely above ground except for one station, and is a good choice for sightseeing.

[@robertcartwright4374]

Cool

[@nova_verse6284]

I can complement China in expending their rail network into more regions and cities for better connectivity. Good job on that 👍🏽👍🏽✌🏽✌🏽.

[@RailwayNetworks]

Well done video... what impresses me the most are the bridges and viaducts on these high-speed lines, even through some hard-to-reach areas...

[@alanpartington2540]

Good job they took photos. Tofu dreg bridges and viaducts don't last long

[@TAIWAN_PROVINCE_CHINA]

呱呱呱。。。

[@中国杨]

unlike many other Western (capitalist) countries, the central government, rather than private railway companies, has been playing the role in planning and building these lines. So it doesn’t just focus on making profits as soon as possible, more importantly, the central government wants to serve the whole population, not just people in rich regions. They’ve been doing this to make it easier for everyone to get around, provide more jobs and also stimulate the economy, especially in less rich areas (also part of the Poverty Elimination project). There’s an old saying that says “if one wants to get rich, one needs transportation (roads, highways, rails, etc.)”.

[@creaturexxii]

Design wise, the CR400AF-Z is my favourite high speed rail rolling stock. It's sleek, futuristic, and generally aesthetically pleasing. A close second would be the ICE-3 train and the N700 Shinkansen.

[@jonseilim4321]

Wasn't this the one exported to Indonesia or something

[@creaturexxii]

@@jonseilim4321 I believe so

[@haha-nz8pw]

@@jonseilim4321 yes, CR400AF is exported to Indonesia.

[@DanielYau318]

CR400AF is base on E2 platform.

[@Ilovecruise]

@@DanielYau318 CR400 is a rebuilt after China absorbed the technology and mastered it, it’s not explicitly based on E2 platform

[@cliffwoodbury5319]

great video, but i would say that 2008 and the building of the first high-speed line would be a new phase. I could see you stating it was 2013 because the railways corporate structure changed, but i'm sure as they were building the first high-speed line they were already at work and within the first steps of restructuring of the railways corporate structure; so i would have stated 2008 but 2013 makes perfect sense also. But like always, these videos are amazing and they can't come out fast enough!

[@jonseilim4321]

Economies of scale really are incredible, supposedly there's basically only five types of rolling stock

[@jeremeh911]

As a foreigner I will forever love the idea of Chinese prosperity, this HSR network is one way the government of china is ensuring this.

[@kv4302]

subscribed because you talk sensibly/positively about China!

[@lowgalaxy7232]

Zhangjiakou is marked at a wrong place (looks like somewhere around Datong) at 4:41. Zhangjiakou is at the northwest rather than the southwest of Beijing.

[@clumsytriangle2436]

The way the colonial powers tried to carve up China under the weak Qing Dynasty is despicable. Their methods of building railways with different gauges to prevent a free flowing network - of course to hold onto their control of certain areas - is exactly what they did when they were colonising Africa! I am a foreigner who's been living in China almost 10 years, and I marvel at how they have built themselves up from their broken past. Shows the true spirit of the Chinese people and the wisdom of their leaders.

[@sleepyjoe4529]

Yup. They did it to all their colonies in Africa and Asia. Western imperialism is sickening.

[@chrishartley1210]

It wasn't the colonial powers who built those railways it was individual private companies and always to a price. The object was for transport of the company's goods, usually to a river port, so they had no interest in linking to other systems. It wasn't done to prevent a free flowing network, simply that they had no interest in such a concept. If you want an example of what colonial powers did, look at India. The railway there was built to British specifications and a linked network was a priority. Admittedly, one of the prime reasons was for the rapid movement of troops but right since the beginning the network has been built, run and maintained by Indians and they are rightly proud of their railway.

[@Desireoffreedom]

Yeah,those evil westerners did the same thing in their own countries as well just how evil can they get! Turns out it was just private companies

[@joansparky4439]

Ah, Dunning-Kruger at full display. Magnificent Sight. Thanks for the expose @Clumsytriangle. 🤣

[@joansparky4439]

@@sleepyjoe4529 _"Western imperialism is sickening."_ 1) imperialism isn't restricted to 'the West', neither today or in the past.. 2) transport infrastructure in colonies are mostly built to move resources from their extraction point to the coast/river to ship it out.. there simply is no desire or need to create a network for this purpose.

[@AaronShenghao]

18:22 is Shanghai Metro Line 1. Standard gauge yes, but it's technically owned/operated by Shanghai Metro group. They don't operate anything outside of Shanghai. Even a local commuter line to Jinshan is operated by China Railway. The Shanghai Metro is building a higher speed commuter line (200km/h) to link up the two airports in Shanghai, half the time needed compared to taking the existing Metro 2.

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

even maglev train is not enough for shanghai

[@alwaysthinktwice6612]

@@carkawalakhatulistiwa Well with 27M people in the city of Shanghai . . .

[@jermainetrainallen6416]

Thanks for the vid. The sheer scale of the railway network in China is incredible. I didn't really know much about the history before this so it's interesting that multiple foreign countries built different parts of the railway. Keep up the good work👍

[@AaronShenghao]

Wonder if you will mention the experimental high-speed cargo train. Or if they will actually deploy them...Maybe in future there will be no more "passenger only high speed lines"

[@goChillax]

Yessss I've wanted way more info on this too!!

[@中国杨]

yes China is planning to deploy them, especially on those Asia-Europe Rails (part of the Belt and Road Initiative) to transport goods as quick as possible and cut down the cost. So if this is realized, it’ll be a game-changer at least in Eurasia (the Europe-Asia continent). Also, this is why America has been crazily smearing on the Belt and Road initiative (but at the same time proposes an American-version BRI😂) because America controls the global oceans, rather than lands, and they enjoys that very much.

[@guangyang547]

At 6:13, many lines on the map were built after 1949.

[@willgoins218]

Excellent production

[@railrovision8293]

11:35 is a Japanese Tokaido Shinkansen, not a Chinese train.

[@wyqtor]

They also have some Shinkansen-derivative rolling stock. This will be explained in the 3rd video of this series for sure.

[@ayanokoji92]

You can see that the left train is the Nozomi Express direction Tokyo

[@AaronShenghao]

Yes they only have E2 derived models, not N700

[@thegrandaviator8308]

This train is also in the old Chinese rolling stock

[@中国杨]

yes i can confirm it’s not Chinese HSR. Chinese HSR is more like 11:40😂

[@TheWarrior1256]

Nice to see you back!!!

[@Viivek2309]

Please make a video on Indian railways as well.

[@ianhomerpura8937]

He did last year. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4TWg6CYitOpgZY

[@pawaratharva6371]

not advanced enough

[@FraserKM]

Cough cough delhi and Mumbai

[@Viivek2309]

@@pawaratharva6371 wdym?

[@namelesswarrior4760]

As a proud Chinese I'd just want to say that it is a pleasant surprise that there are not that much prejudiced "China Bashings" in this video! thanks. This channel has a bias towards Japan

[@Answer01]

視頻算是比較中立 但是還是很多錯誤信息 但是評論就一大堆抹黑的了

[@cogniktive1147]

0:50 “… [although we already have a video to cover this topic] … However as Chinese high speed network is growing faster than we manage to prepare a video, there will be another enough information to upgrade the previous one.” 😂

[@reubensher8144]

..their rapid HSR development is in response to their fundamental need to unite the country. In the event they takeover Taiwan..they will link Taiwan to the mainland with HSR too. Europe, USA, even South America should have emulated the hsr network. It worked very well in Japan. The guys who really need this system but got left behind is the Indian subcontinent. You cant cover large distances effectively using cars or even planes when it comes to mass transport. The tech is here. And the chinese decided to use it. And it has transformed their country.

[@thisiskevin1000]

With an undersea tunnel

[@player3prime]

Picture at 11:04 is a departure board in Taiwan.

[@LeonZhangCD]

6:05 wrong map, a lot of lines on this map were built decades later.

[@special5513]

We need overnight highspeed trains and nightjet highspeed trains around the world.

[@marioxerxescastelancastro8019]

You started saying there were many disconnected railways of different gauge. You skipped the history of when the gauge was unified.

[@samatwood6425]

Confused as to why it was mentioned that the ROC was established after overthrowing the feudal Qing dynasty, but no mention is made that the ROC was overthrown by the communist party of China in 1949. This is important historical context for the “year of demarcation” for the rapid expansion of railways in 1949. The Chinese people advanced their condition through multiple revolutions (first the ROC and then the PRC), which in turn reflected itself in the development of rail infrastructure, which continues to today. Unfortunate, inadequate and irresponsible that this was not mentioned, otherwise great video.

[@hcjet]

not very good production, you even didn't use correct Chinese map...1876, Taiwan was not occupied by Japanese yet, it happened in 1895, then 1945 China took back Taiwan after victory of WW2

[@yinshengwang887]

The key to China's railway progress is that in the early 21st century, through the huge market as an attraction, it bought a lot of Western technology and, at least in part, successfully learned these technologies. For high-speed EMUs, China purchased ADtranz’s Regina series, Bombardier’s Zefiro250/380, Alstom’s pendolino series, Siemens’ Velaro series, and Kawasaki Heavy Industries’ Shinkansen E2-1000 series. China buys almost all high-speed EMUs except TGV. For electric locomotives, China purchased Siemens ES64F and Alstom BB37000 platforms, and cooperated with Bombardier and Toshiba at the same time. For diesel locomotives, China purchased the latest 6,000-horsepower diesel locomotives from EMD and GE at the same time. It can be said that in just a few years, China obtained the best EMUs and locomotives that the world could buy at that time.

[@jonny2954]

Also don't forget the Rheda 2000 and Bögl ballastless track systems.

[@Alhussainba]

Why don't they buy EMUs from TGV?

[@JillValentinova]

@@Alhussainba when you learn and then cook at home, you will save money.

[@guzilayerken5013]

@@Alhussainba TGV's technical standards are maverick and too different from those of China.

[@yinshengwang887]

@@Alhussainba seem like China Railway dont love high speed powered centralized train and Jacobs Bogie,thats why they choose Pendolino series EMU from alstom instead of TGV or AGV

[@funtonite]

11:34 casual Shinkansen, not even China

[@morganangel340]

could be worse, and show USA... oh wait... USA don't have HSR. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Ianchia860]

and also 11:03 shows a departure board of Taiwan

[@AaronShenghao]

@@Ianchia860 maybe they will build one to Taiwan next (no joke there is a project proposal, and technology is not a problem...But it really depends on if the United States want a more unified China or not...)

[@中国杨]

It’s called the Beijing-Taipei high speed line and it’s already built and operated until Pingtan island, which is just opposite of Taipei😂it’s part of the 2035 rail project

[@torquetrain8963]

Very impressive. My congratulations to China for an amazing job. I wish that here in the U.S. people would stop making stupid excuses of why not to build high speed rail here. We have an outdated car centric disaster and failure of a transportation system that has ruined the landscape of cities and left most people broke due to a complete and utter refusal to invest in anything outside of personal automobile ownership. I've heard all of the arguments here against it and most are by an uniformed brainwashed population that has absolutely no idea how a rail system functions. We have been dumbed down here and have constant propaganda and commercials promoting auto sales. Record numbers of ridiculously huge pickups and suvs continue to be sold and jams, road rage, high gas prices, huge accident deaths. America has the absolute most pathetic ground transportation system and the auto executives and oil barons need to be imprisoned for crimes against humanity. We need high speed trains, and all of the feeder systems to make them work- light rail, bus, adequate bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure, and cities redesigned around people and not cars. Enough of the failed and outdated car centric insanity. It was only good for the boomers for a short time. It's not working here.

[@occfulviano2293]

Thank you to translate tour videos into others langages lire French.

[@fouadbenrezzak8398]

Colonial nations tried hard to submit china In the past But the Chinese uppon Many miserable times they didn't forget that they are the Chinese they are the people who own a long last empire a huge past And they said we will make it again And they did it

[@Mel_Gerrard]

Having traveled on rail all over the world, I can confidently say Chinese HSR is the best in the world.

[@michaellaudahn]

Here's an idea for another clip. Watching AC electrification systems in Europe, it can be seen that there is a limited number of standardised material by probably an equally limited number of makers. While the german masts, cantilevers etc (probably developped by Siemens, then standardised by DR & successors) are easy to recognise, and while it can also be seen that they have been 'copied' (less or more modified) in other countries, there are also some which have a distant similarity, but changes have taken place whose justification would be interesting to know. Can you see what I mean?

[@wishtoday.]

4:30 张家口在北京的西北方向上。地图上标错了。

[@phamnhuhien6758]

The Qing dynasty map needs to include the island of Formosa.

[@rockerjim8045]

If America was properly organised James Dean would be still alive

[@robertcartwright4374]

Thanks!

[@hugowilliams1988]

Because of high speed rails now every weekend in China is a long weekend.

[@dt8101]

2:19 You are saying the rail was sent by Qing Dynasty to Taiwan. But your Qing Dynasty Map at 1:52 doesn't include Taiwan. If Taiwan was not part of China according to your map, how did Qing Dynasty shipped railways to Taiwan?

[@jeffreychen1191]

The map is accurate. Taiwan was not part of Qing China after 1895 when they lost to Japan. This is all said in the video.

[@Ateshtesh]

Also when Japan was nukes by USA, Japan signed with USA the resign to all the territories that they got in the war, including Taiwan. Then they give it back to China.

[@中国杨]

@@Ateshtesh They gave it back to the Republic of China, but RC refused the proposal of PRC to establish a two-party coalition government. Then the civil war began and RC lost to PRC, but RC fled to Taiwan and kept their reign and the name of RC in Taiwan. RC was and is an ally (subordinate) to the US, the US Seventh Fleet also helped RC and prevented PRC to take over Taiwan and unite China in 1949 and the 50s. The Taiwan administration today is still officially called the Republic of China (RC), and their constitution states its territory as the whole Mainland China(PRC, including HK and Macao) and Taiwan (plus its nearby small islands), so basically the current Taiwan administration is walking in a shaded area, they don’t have the guts to declare independence, they smears PRC and attacks it for stating its goal to take over Taiwan and reunite China, but at the same time they secretly acknowledges that Taiwan is part of China in their constitution (the problem is which Chinese government should rule the whole country)

[@alexiuan3813]

Can you also talk about Russia or Romania in a future vid?

[@karenmahoney584]

One of the MSN headlines was, "Putin will be assassinated." Um, I remember in my father's case many years ago, my father was detained for interrogation when President Kennedy was assassinated, and he said his character was assassinated, but he didn't believe the President was dead. Would that increase the torture and what should you say? How was President Kennedy's character assassinated? Could it have been the Republicans? My father is Independent, but he was Republican at the time, but he voted for Kennedy, and they made such a big deal without answering the question. I definitely remember I think it was the end of October of 1963, that my father told Kennedy he named my sister Tatyana Lee Mahoney after LHO, and my father appears to believe that Oswald and Connolly are alive. Why would he be afraid of Governor Connolly of Texas? I guess he didn't disagree with certain coup attempts, like Enrique Barrios of the Proud Boys, and they have oil, cattle ranches, and Mexicans. I don't know when Medicaid started, but a Yale professor, Stephen Turzio, submitted a paper explaining how it is suppressing the United States population. What happened is Nizoral was on the good list and neuroleptic was on the Medicaid list, and they mixed them up.

[@rabbitazteca23]

what about the maglevs that levitate?

[@rebeccayang8270]

your map is wrong.

[@UzioPL]

16:08 the final victory of communism over capitalism

[@martinformini3621]

Gracias por compartir esta información. Tengo una pregunta: ¿ como lograron si es así, unificar las trochas en toda China? ¿O todavía continúan teniendo diversas trochas? I will try to ask in english... How can they put all the different gauche in one? If is real they did it. Sorry for my English.

[@moyler6600]

😂你这英语有点怪，不是有谷歌翻译吗？直接说你的母语，让谷歌忙去吧。中国有句话叫想要富先修路，即使再贫困的地方，即使没有任何资源的地方，只要这里有人住，就会尽可能把道路修到这个地方，哪怕修这些道路是不赚钱的亏损的，要让贫困地区与发达地区畅行无阻，这样贫困地区的农产品或者年轻人可以更容易走出去，修路是为了让所有人动起来，让所有农产品动起来，没有路的话，有的人一辈子也走不出大山。

[@李増輝]

@@moyler6600 这是西班牙语区的人，英语不好很正常🤣

[@李増輝]

@@moyler6600 他们理解不了很正常，因为他们没有。

[@williamhumes7332]

China grows larger- Dozer, 2003

[@8600GTX]

Should mention more information about buying railway technology from other country.

[@irvanabidin7440]

Delusional😋

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

Jealous?

[@hectorazopoulos1922]

You are calling cities wrongly!!

[@heesingsia4634]

This guy sounds like Binkov

[@Ottovonostbahnhof]

Liu Zhijun刘志军，the former minister of Railway and the father of China’s HSR system, is probably the most beloved prisoner in China. In ppl’s heart, he is a great man even though he was corrupted,

[@user-lp5wb2rb3v]

i wish the uk could do 1% what China does in rail

[@wuhui]

Thanks for telling the history of railway during the shameful colonial period in China.

[@dicdicd1767]

Except that he did a big mistake by calling cities by their modern transcription and not the way we were calling them at the time Peking, Canton... Kunming changed its name in 1923.

[@hectorazopoulos1922]

@@dicdicd1767 very true

[@xueshisu2010]

finally!!!😆

[@Garner84]

UK please ;)

[@RFGfotografie]

I love this video's.

[@starship3812]

Chinese accent of English is very cute

[@maxcv1609]

Serbia,not Chinese

[@dkboss5668]

Jabra fan.

[@wclifton968gameplaystutorials]

I'm surprised that you didn't mention the deadly high-speed rail crash back in 2012 which was the precursor to the 2013 railway reforms after mass-corruption was uncovered within the Ministry of Railways leading to the execution of the guy who ran the whole thing..

[@AaronShenghao]

It's several stupid mistake/oversight (Signal didn't show a train is on the line when struck by lightning, the next train was released into the tracks with a leading train stopped due to ATC malfunctioned after lighting strike ) which lead to a low speed crash (net speed only some 40km/h, most of the damage caused by two different models of trains climbed up and fell over the viaduct. Signal system is based on European Train Management system, so it's a procedure problem during degraded operations. This video is focused on the development, the "reform" was planned even before the crash. Of course, it change the structure on how the railway was run, rather on who is in charge and who to report to and other procedure changes (e.g. there was a station worker who noticed the previous train hadn't arrived in the next station yet, while next train was released. He didn't think too much hence didn't question the central control...) Of course the signal system was scrutinized as well.

[@archstanton5973]

Do YOU westerners just pull your "facts" OUT OF YOUR AZZZZZ?? The crash happened *IN 2011* AND "the guy who ran the whole thing" *was NOT "executed"* and instead remains in jail on a life sentence

[@Dark-yv1es]

You classify the crash in 2013 to mass corruption! Why don’t you tell people that crash is only crash before and after 2013. And how many train crash in your country?

[@aiyuheping1995]

@@Dark-yv1es It is truly *THE* only crash since 2013, salute to the engineers and management team of CHR.

[@benma4421]

Hello, the guy is still in jail. When was he executed?!

[@silveriver9]

Meanwhile, railway in the US.... 😂

[@brennencox516]

Your thumbnail is wrong. The island of Taiwan doesn't belong to the PRC.

[@kennyshen1228]

exactly.

[@aison2735]

No, Taiwan Province is a province of China.The current problems are caused by the unfinished civil war in China, The current situation is caused by the problems left over from the unfinished civil war in China, There are two regimes within China that are carrying out armed separatist regimes, Sovereignty belongs to China, and governance is divided. What the current government of China wants to unify is the governance right of Taiwan Province, Sovereignty has always been unified, Otherwise, there would not be the so-called Taiwan independence issue now, This situation is only a transitional state, and it is difficult to exist for a long time.

[@irvanabidin7440]

Delusional😋😋

[@irvanabidin7440]

@@kennyshen1228 delusional😋

[@kimchiba4570]

Dun meddie in adult affairs kiddo... Go play with your toys

[@borntorice]

A wrong cover could show what you are siding with.

[@ianhomerpura8937]

Do railway fans need to care about politics?

[@borntorice]

@@ianhomerpura8937 When a rapid transit plan to build but need demolished your house. Will you care about "politics?". When your mayor, is planning refit your commute rail system to use cheap but unreliable chinese compartments instead expensive but reliable made in USA; it's politics or not??

[@ianhomerpura8937]

@@borntorice state DOTs do that all the time when they expand the freeways, yet you guys don't bat an eye. When they do it for railways, you Americans go totally nuts. Also, factories and construction companies in the USA build way too slow. Not efficient, wastes a lot of money.

[@Fauzanarief-n7i]

@@borntorice rapid transit project aren't using lot of land compare to Highway and parking lot lol. Heck even A whole community (especially minority) In US are destroyed because their land are using to build a highway and Parking lot.

[@borntorice]

@@Fauzanarief-n7i Railway is better, of course, less demolish and stay away from freeway traffics, also, fewer parking lots required. But, less doesn't means "never".

[@lilianma8489]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

Less rel than usa but 100x better

[@kennyshen1228]

The map of thumbnail is terribly wrong. Taiwan should be excluded from CCP.

[@irvanabidin7440]

Delusional😋

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

In which Bollywood movie?

[@ensteffo]

It shouldn't.

[@thomaslong6655]

Your counry got a embassy in taiwan? 💩

[@farry104uck]

@@ensteffo It shouldn’t when it comes to world politics, but it should when it comes to high speed rail.

[@erwinlee2842]

Qing map is wrong. It should include Taiwan.

[@zen1tsu-sam]

You only see railway system, but you forget the debt accumulated of these useless mega projects.

[@kevinlin4895]

The 3.6B people who rides them yearly disagree with you.

[@Answer01]

你只看到了債務 卻看不到中國高鐵給人民帶來的方便和促進經濟發展

[@zen1tsu-sam]

​@@kevinlin4895 Oh it's free to ride

[@oceanthresher6184]

@@Answer01 not much is funnier than Americans saying “It’s not profitable!” or “It’s tanking their economy!” It’s not like Marxism questions that validity of all those things and realizes it’s a bunch of meaningless numbers.

[@ke2akun544]

so fast and the chinese railyways have a lot debt its $900B usd

[@中国杨]

But China is still not crashed, are you bummed?😂

[@ke2akun544]

@@中国杨 lol a lot debt will be a burden

[@zikxiang9161]

@@ke2akun544 US has more debt， but both countries are still stand up。。。

[@ke2akun544]

@@zikxiang9161 yes they have debt but owe itu to the residents themselves

[@Answer01]

中國債務有美國多嗎 美國發債去打戰侵略別國 中國發債建設基礎設施

[@ivanbruh770]

First!!!

[@wilsonedwards8139]

What I see today is a fast-growing debt nation... 😅

[@alpeulpe]

So sorry you were born with a smooth brain.

[@afgor1088]

you're obsessively anti-china. no one will take you seriously.

[@wilsonedwards8139]

As of 2020, China's total government debt stands at approximately ¥ RMB 46 trillion (US$ 7.0 trillion), equivalent to about 45% of GDP. Standard & Poor's Global Ratings has stated Chinese local governments may have an additional ¥ RMB 40 trillion ($5.8 trillion) in off-balance sheet debt. Furthermore, debt owed by state-owned industrial firms is another 74% of GDP according to the International Monetary Fund. The three government-owned banks (China Development Bank, Agricultural Development Bank of China and Exim Bank of China) owe a further 29% of GDP. The high debt level is a current economic issue facing China.

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

Source ?

[@jaykobwalson1941]

Very lovely design, but built by the working class in camps and used to appeal to tourists.

[@irvanabidin7440]

Delusional😋

[@jaykobwalson1941]

@@irvanabidin7440 Unfortunately, I'm hearing many stories about it. Besides, lots of those who have travelled to China have told me that some of the western media is true about their government and internet policies.

[@jaykobwalson1941]

@@taiwanstillisntacountry Yes, but while the Americas were stolen land and still have their problems, Canada and the US are more democratic than China and use far less labor despite having no HSR and other infrastructure issues.

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

You must be from the p00r country of H-India aka La-La-Land.

[@jaykobwalson1941]

@@taiwanstillisntacountry No, I'm from the US.

[@jwhite5008]

This is impressive but please notice the following: 1) Trusting Chinese data is foolish. Fakery and censorship is their normal. At least SOME of "high speed" lines in practice actually carry passengers at what is considered normal railway speed in other parts of the world - and not what they are officially advertised to do - at least for now. At least some of the formally "opened" lines do not operate. Of course, even accounting for that their development is in fact impressive. 2) Thorough planning that other countries routinely engage in is very lengthy, costly and offsets construction of railways by decades. But it is not without merit. China does what CCP wills irregardless of reason. One of the consequences is that so far all HSR lines except Beijing-Shanghai one are operating at a huge loss and are in debt as giant as everything in China. They are losing millions of USD per DAY, much of it due to bad planning. Using HSR is often too costly for regular Chinese people so they often opt for buses instead. HSR does compete with airplanes though. 3) China's regional "slow" rail network is a LOT more expansive and usable than USA one, but is not even close to European. They dismantled a good amount of it in favor of HSR which now often doesn't stop where Chinese people need to go, prompting them to use buses again. 4) Similarly, although freight rail network seems expansive in absolute numbers, it covers only a fraction of the needs of country that produces as much goods as China, and is not truely expanding much recently - more like recovering from the damage HSR did to it. 5) Railways are typically built to last. Chinese rail construction quality is generally better than other infrastructure, but still poor planning and poor quality of available materials coupled with very high supports, very long tunnels and high speeds means that most likely in a few years a good portion of the rail network will either need to spend considerable amount of time closed for costly maintenance, experience high failure rate or will deteriorate and shut down. This year alone saw several disasters like tunnel collapsed and train crashing into a station. Such events are not rare but are quickly censored so are invisible to foreign observers. 6) Often land acquisition is quite brutal toward its owners. Homes and agricultural plots destroyed number in millions and those who happened to be in the way are often left in ruin, their livelihood not even actually considered seriously. This is a very complex and very controversial topic. But note that often this is a very significant obstacle that, among others, prevents railways in US from growing efficiently and at fast pace. 7) As always, damage to ecology, geology and nature in general is ignored when construction is underway in China. Not only it furthers it destruction at a very fast rate, but also upsets many natural systems further and further resulting in pest hoards, infectious outbreaks, severe droughts and floods, crop failures and such. Preventing such events is one of the reason large-scale construction pace is limited in developed world. I'm not saying China's rail is inherently inferior or try to undermine their achievements. I'm just mentioning that it is not equivalent to i.e. Japanese rail in terms of quality or usefulness. Thus it should not be directly compared. Many things that people automatically assume for HSR are not true in China. Railways do attract development and better transport connectivity does help a country economically. Airplanes are very bad for ecology and car dependency ultimately ruins lives. Does trampling over economics, ecology and peoples' lives justify building HSR to where it's not really needed? This is a very difficult question. But one needs consideration. I'm not trying to answer it but only notify it is there. Please please please don't fight over partial information. This needs in-depth analysis before any reasonable argument can be made. Analysis that is very difficult due to unreliable data and censorship. Also PLEASE NOTE: KZbin is banned in China. Regular Chinese people are arrested if government is able to determine they can access it. However there are hundreds of thousands of workers that are (under)paid to attack anyone who may be disputing anything Chinese propaganda puts out - no matter amount of lies or nonsense - as long as they can drown any truth by sheer numbers. This comment section is already filling with them and I won't be answering them since I believe it's pointless.

[@Fauzanarief-n7i]

Well china is not north korea lol, if you dont believe the data Just visit their country and ride their high speed rail to prove it.

[@Fauzanarief-n7i]

1. Data reliability: It is true that China has a history of censoring certain types of information and manipulating data, and this has led to concerns about the reliability of data from the country. However, it is not accurate to say that all Chinese data is unreliable or fake. Many organizations, both within and outside of China, work to independently verify the accuracy of data and hold the government accountable for any discrepancies. For example, the World Bank has a long history of working with the Chinese government on infrastructure projects, including HSR, and has processes in place to ensure the accuracy of data and the transparency of project implementation. 2. It is true that some of China's HSR lines are operating at a loss, but it is not accurate to say that all of them are. And The Beijing-Shanghai line, which is the busiest and most heavily used HSR line in the country, has been profitable since 2015. It is also worth noting that the construction of HSR lines can be expensive, and it is common for such projects to take a number of years to break even or become profitable. But 3. China's regional rail network, which consists of slower-speed lines that serve smaller cities and towns, is indeed more expansive than the one in the United States. According to data from the World Bank, as of 2021, China had over 128,000 kilometers (79,500 miles) of regional rail lines, while the United States had just over 50,000 kilometers (31,000 miles). However, it is also accurate to say that China's regional rail network is not as extensive as some European countries. For example, Germany has over 35,000 kilometers (21,750 miles) of regional rail lines, and France has over 30,000 kilometers (18,750 miles). The construction of HSR lines in China has led to the decommissioning of some slower-speed lines, which has affected accessibility in some areas. 4. China's freight rail network is indeed the largest in the world, with over 100,000 kilometers (62,000 miles) of tracks as of 2021. It plays a vital role in the country's transportation infrastructure, carrying a significant portion of the country's freight and contributing to the efficiency and competitiveness of its logistics industry. However, it is not accurate to say that the freight rail network is not meeting the needs of the country or that it is not truly expanding. According to data from the China State Railway Group, the volume of freight carried by rail in China has increased steadily in recent years, and the company has made significant investments in the expansion and modernization of the network. 5. There have been some issues with the construction and maintenance of China's rail network, including instances of poor quality and safety concerns. However, it is not accurate to say that a significant portion of the network will need to be closed for maintenance or will shut down in the near future. While there have been some disasters and incidents, overall the safety record of China's rail network is good. According to data from the National Railway Administration, the accident rate for China's rail network has declined steadily in recent years, and the network has a high level of reliability and punctuality. 6. For the land acquisition, The land compensation are pretty high, Even Many of them are becoming Instantly Rich because their land are buy by the developer for Real estate/infrastructure project. 7. I would say that A high speed Project Is still far more better for Environtment (at least in long term) than other transportation like Private car or Plane, And also Natural disaster that you mention above doesnt have any corellation with high speed rail project, But most of them are caused by Global warming that also cause by Co2 Emission of Car and Plane

[@yinshengwang887]

1)High-speed railway has the definition of the world - modified existing line can reach a maximum operating speed of 200kph aft or a new high-speed line of 250kph and above.China's high-speed rail lines clearly meet this requirement. In fact, the CTCS-0 signaling system for slow railways only supports a maximum speed of 160kph. Most high-speed trains use a completely different signaling system and cannot be used on slower railways without retrofitting signaling equipment. High-speed trains running on slow railways usually only use slow railways to enter the station when approaching a city or in the city.

[@yinshengwang887]

2） High-speed rail has virtually destroyed China's long-distance bus industry -- on a vastly smaller scale. According to my experience, the price of a long-distance bus in China is usually similar to that of a second-class seat on a 250kph high-speed rail, which is 20% cheaper than a 300/350kph high-speed rail. The high-speed rail stations in big cities are not far from the urban areas. The high-speed rail stations in some small cities are far away from the urban area (10-20km) because the high-speed rail needs to maintain a large curve radius, but considering the total time, the high-speed rail still saves a lot of time compared to long-distance buses. The Beijing-Shanghai high-speed rail is not the only profitable high-speed rail line -- you're looking at a state-owned company called Beijing-Shanghai High-Speed ​​Railway, which has invested heavily in high-speed rail lines. Most of the high-speed rail lines in eastern China are profitable, and the central and western high-speed rail lines do have some overbuilding problems. At the same time, it should be noted that high-speed rail in China is a government investment, and direct profit is not the only purpose.

[@yinshengwang887]

3）and 4) Slow railways, or as they are called in Japanese style, existing mainlines (as opposed to new mainlines/high-speed railways) do not serve commuter or regional traffic in China. In fact, China's slow railway construction has always been backward. Until today, there is no slow railway direct connection between two big cities, Hangzhou and Nanjing, which are less than 200km away from Shanghai and 300km away in a straight line. Both of these cities have a population of over 10 million and are among the top 10 cities in China in terms of gdp. So far, most of China's existing main lines still mainly carry heavy long-distance passenger traffic and freight, without enough clearance for commuting and regional traffic. The original purpose of China's construction of high-speed railways was to use high-speed railways to divert long-distance passenger transportation, so that the existing main lines can be used for freight, so you can see many high-speed lines parallel to the existing main lines. In addition, there are few examples of demolishing existing main lines to build high-speed railways, and I have almost never heard of them. In China, commuting within cities, commuting in urban suburbs, and regional commuting between big cities and surrounding satellite cities is mainly undertaken by subways and light rail operated in subway mode. The system is often run by cities and is completely independent of the national rail system.

[@tdnow4416]

Fastest growing rail network, as well as fastest growing unsustainable debt.

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

Debts? The poor USA for sure

[@tdnow4416]

@@taiwanstillisntacountry I don’t mind CCP go ahead built more high speed railway! Built as much as possible! If possible, replace all railway in China with high speed railway. Just don’t stop!

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

Jealous? Poor USA debts = 31T Chinese debts = 10T. Netto worth of p00r USA = 60T. Netto worth of the PRC = 110T. Read McKinsey report. More HSR tracks = higher netto worth. 2035 = 70.000km. Heartpains?

[@tdnow4416]

@@taiwanstillisntacountry Please don’t stop, keep building high speed rail, make it ten fold more! The faster CCP build high speed rail, the faster the end game will come to CCP!

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

GLORY to the British Raj. May they rule ONLY P00R H-India soon again

[@dominoaffabatelal6731]

China very good.

[@matpk]

Made in Chi Na💩

[@directxxxx71]

Cry about it

[@kimchiba4570]

And what can your country make

[@thomaslong6655]

Everyone this person is one of my patients diagnosed with metal disorder, I told him nerver halt medication

[@kimchiba4570]

And no balls to answer

[@alanpartington2540]

aka the world's biggest waste of money. Trains from nowhere to nowhere, used by nobody. Just bs numbers on the GDP figures, to give the appearance of activity

[@asgby585]

Lol whatever makes you sleep at night.

[@chestnutridge4187]

So people we saw on the platforms are ghosts? Lol.

[@HarutoIgarashi]

Jealousy makes people look hideous

[@alanpartington2540]

@@HarutoIgarashi And being an imbecile is not a good look either

[@alanpartington2540]

@@chestnutridge4187 No, they are about 1.6% of the passengers the line would need to break even

[@dicdicd1767]

You are making a huge mistake!! At the time you are talking about Chinese city they were called by a different name!! Beijing was called Peking! Zhangjiakou was called Kalgan, Guangzhou was called Canton, Nanjing was Nanking! Kunming changed its name, its former name was Yunnan Fu. This how you should have called it! You are an ignorant revisionist, you are making a video of things you don't even know!

[@shenli3916]

🥰🥰🥰😘

[@freezingu]

I am a Chinese. I have learned about the history of China's railway development from foreignersᥬ😂᭄

[@gucker07]

debt trap

[@ensteffo]

Is something the west does through IMF etc then project on to China.

[@johngood4419]

jealousy

[@starship3812]

Chinese accent of English is very cute

[@dicdicd1767]

He doesn't have an English accent at all! He has a Russian accent!