Rain, Blunders and Systems meltdowns - Monaco GP Talking Points

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Monaco! We had it all - rain, red flags, delays, systems malfunction, strategy blunders, an almighty crash, and a popular surprise winner. How did it all play out? Let's discuss...
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@twhiteofrd_1102
@twhiteofrd_1102 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the race directors having a media person whose whole job is to communicate with the media so that decisions can be explained better to the views.
@robdavies82
@robdavies82 2 жыл бұрын
There’s an article on PlanetF1 where Martin Brundle says that there is a WhatsApp group with commentators and the FIA in it. He also claims there was a huge argument in Monaco hence the delay.
@DieSpeckBohne
@DieSpeckBohne 2 жыл бұрын
I think the fact that fia Radio got cut shows that the fia isn’t particularly comfortable with unregulated access to their communication, tho id love the idea
@rjfaber1991
@rjfaber1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@DieSpeckBohne Well yes, but that would be the point of having a dedicated media person; right now their reaction to the FIA radio debacle seems to be to barely communicate externally at all, which I think most of us would agree is overshooting too far the other way, with the right balance between transparency and clarity being somewhere in between.
@avada0
@avada0 2 жыл бұрын
How would they explain not penalizing Albon, who held up Leclerc for a full lap under blue flags? And didn't even let him pass at all, he just botched the first turn...
@nzz1510
@nzz1510 2 жыл бұрын
Why let someone else ruin your race when you can do it yourself. - some Ferrari strategist probably
@M4NA5
@M4NA5 2 жыл бұрын
Copy that we’re checking.. We don’t know at the moment.. We will come back to you.. Slow batton on. - Ferrari strategy rulebook
@suhailmall98
@suhailmall98 2 жыл бұрын
They're keeping it in the family
@quintuscrinis8032
@quintuscrinis8032 2 жыл бұрын
Similar mistake to Hamilton/Mercades at Turkey last year ti be fair to them.
@BuuGz86
@BuuGz86 2 жыл бұрын
Sainz was the culprit, Ferraris mistake was they didn't know what to do when that asshole ignored orders, and second mistake is double stacking... they royally screwed Leclerc. and yes both RedBull and Ferrari fumbled with Max and Leclerc as they wanted to make it as safe as possible for them, Then RedBull pulled the trigger with Perez, Ferrari then wanted to counter with Sainz...but he ignored the call and from that point on it was a shitshow.
@quintuscrinis8032
@quintuscrinis8032 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuuGz86 strange take. Sainz made the right call and that's why he finished 2nd rather than 4th/5th. By the time he was called in Perez had made enough time to jump him the way he did Lecerlc!! Keeping the wets till taking drys meant keeping track position so even if Checo made the time up, all 4 drivers still had 1 stop to make. The only reason Sainz didn't win was dealing with a backmarker on his dry outlap.
@not_raine.
@not_raine. 2 жыл бұрын
ferrari, always capable of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
@canis_lupus2220
@canis_lupus2220 2 жыл бұрын
A fan of the Mighty Jingles?
@samratgaur4915
@samratgaur4915 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@stefansekulic7903
@stefansekulic7903 2 жыл бұрын
Grande strategia
@PeterTeal77
@PeterTeal77 Жыл бұрын
@@stefansekulic7903 grande machina, grazie ragazzi
@wowgabber123
@wowgabber123 2 жыл бұрын
Should add a orange flag for street circuits(given the frequency of red flags due to barrier repair and car removal) . This would essentially be a short red flag. Drivers keep seated in the pit lane and no work in the fastlane. Race can restart with 1min notice (just for starting engines)
@Redskies453
@Redskies453 2 жыл бұрын
I like it
@rusheelgongulur9689
@rusheelgongulur9689 2 жыл бұрын
1 min notice might be way too less. I think it would be way more feasible to do between 4-6 min
@gnoscyde
@gnoscyde 2 жыл бұрын
I literally just dropped by coming from jolyons analysis, hoping chain bear could do a better job give us a visualization of how the strategy went down. Thankyou chainbear! You make complicated things easier to understand.
@scottmeredith3359
@scottmeredith3359 2 жыл бұрын
Go check out Brrrrrake's explanation
@M4NA5
@M4NA5 2 жыл бұрын
I found Palmer’s analysis spot on using his graph for top 4 showing the two stops and how Checo undercut Charles and overcut Sainz for the win (getting a bit lucky).
@memo134
@memo134 2 жыл бұрын
Check out J Bone. He did it justice as well
@MsZeeZed
@MsZeeZed 2 жыл бұрын
Palmer’s usually pretty good at the “moment things changed”, but even he was saying the TV footage available was hit & miss. It was Charles 1st stop (no footage) Palmer did do justice to Latifi though, he had 5 blue flags thrown at him when he was demonstrably increasing his gap to Sainz, so lot of unfair bully backchat from Carlos’ comments really. It took the second Ferrari to the Hotel Hairpin to fire up those cold hards in the wet.
@TheCodifier
@TheCodifier 2 жыл бұрын
That's funny, I also just finished watching Palmer's analysis on F1TV and just found this video.
@scottmcqueen3964
@scottmcqueen3964 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you missed that Sainz got stuck behind Latifi for the first part of his outlap. He made the right call, just got a little unlucky with a back marker.
@sticker7719
@sticker7719 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, well, my knowledge is kinda insufficient to make my own professional analysis, but it is something Palmer focuses in his analysis of the race. He said Sainz's idea was correct
@craigcharlesworth1538
@craigcharlesworth1538 2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with everything Martin Brundle says, but the one thing that almost never fails is 'always be on the right tyre at the right time'. You might need an extra stop but as we see here when you're 6 seconds a lap faster than the cars around you, you've soon made that extra stop back over those who waited to switch straight from wets to slicks.
@Ramon-gg3bd
@Ramon-gg3bd 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, but in Monaco you also need the right gap to make up that time. Would be horrible if you're on the right tyre stuck behind a McLaren that is 3 secs per lap slower, and you still cannot pass him.
@Enzo_RJL
@Enzo_RJL 2 жыл бұрын
Monaco GP is like visiting your Grandparents, you know it's not going to be super exciting. It's about the atmosphere and love and life isn't the same without it.
@knutpohl339
@knutpohl339 2 жыл бұрын
Monaco is often dull. And then you get a race in which Olivier Panis wins. Absolutely bonkers & over the moon crazy. So yes, please leave it in.
@seanonraet8327
@seanonraet8327 2 жыл бұрын
@@knutpohl339 that race was over 25 years ago though, I feel like the hit race for bonkers races is a bit low
@joh2434
@joh2434 2 жыл бұрын
11:40 If F1 was ever to drop Monaco I could see the FE race taking it's place immediately, it's no coincidence that they ran the same layout as F1 this year and the Gen3 cars are going to be much faster. Also with them going back to a winter calendar Monaco at the end of May would make for fitting season finale...
@hockey52able
@hockey52able 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean the FE takes it's place? FE already race there so if F1 didn't go nothing would change for FE.
@joh2434
@joh2434 2 жыл бұрын
@@hockey52able the FE race would become the Monaco GP and run on the traditional late May date.
@yveslardenoije
@yveslardenoije 2 жыл бұрын
wait gen3 cars, i dont really follow FE but when should i check in again? i.e. when do these gen 3 cars come?
@joh2434
@joh2434 2 жыл бұрын
@@yveslardenoije next season after this one, not sure when it begins exactly but likely start of 2023.
@sylance777
@sylance777 2 жыл бұрын
I've tried really hard to get into FE, but just can't. I dread the day when FE and F1 eventually merge as we lose combustion engines all together.
@AlbeRtRambla
@AlbeRtRambla 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Sainz pit strategy was wrong at all, I think it was the best option, but he had bad luck by exiting the pits just behind Latifi who didn't let Sainz pass until the tunnel (if I remember well), if Latifi wouldn't stay ahead on the pit exit and let Sainz pass there Sainz probably would reach Checo exiting the pitlane after his dry tyre pit stop and be in front.
@Yosef_Marks
@Yosef_Marks 2 жыл бұрын
Plus, probably pitting 1 lap earlier for hards was the better call, and it would've avoided the Ferrari double-stack. So yeah, not good.
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 2 жыл бұрын
At the very least it wouldve been extremely close between Checo and Sainz, probably Sainz still coming behind Checo, but close behind and with the advantage on the warmer tires. But thats racing too. Sometimes u personally do everything right, yet through the actions of others end up going from 1st to 4th like Leclerc. Sometimes u and ur team do everything right, yet still need a little luck to get the win, like Checo. And sometimes a chance for a win turns into a frustrating almost thanks to a lapped driver ignoring blue flags for ½ a lap, like Sainz. While I do feel for Sainz, he really deserved his first win and needs it too after the awful season so far, overall I think, the race ended with the right winner, and I also really loved seeing Checo win, especially after the team order last week, and hes been clearly faster than Max all weekend and did a perfect race. But yeah, he needed a little help from Ferrari and Canadian Cash on Wheels to get there. But again, thats racing too.
@AlbeRtRambla
@AlbeRtRambla 2 жыл бұрын
@@dfuher968 im absolutely agree with you in everything
@davidf2281
@davidf2281 2 жыл бұрын
I love Monaco _because_ it's patently silly and unsuited to the cars.
@RadeticDaniel
@RadeticDaniel 2 жыл бұрын
yes! a track that worked great for more than 5 decades shows that car specifications have gone to far from the expected single seater sizes
@Cake_at_Work
@Cake_at_Work 2 жыл бұрын
The one hour delay was intentionally. F1 just wanted us to watch the last hour of the Nürburgring 24 Hours race :D
@KakoriGames
@KakoriGames 2 жыл бұрын
You either switch to Inters early on like Perez, or you wait and go directly to hards, like Sainz. It was hard to predict which strategy was better, and if Ferrari lost because it chose the wrong one, that would be fine. But pitting late for Inters, then double pitting almost immediately after for hards was just stupid. It clearly shows that Ferrari strategists were unable to predict even 2 laps into the future.
@canis_lupus2220
@canis_lupus2220 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, LEC's stint on inters was simply to short to be worth the extra pitstop
@bucketslash11
@bucketslash11 2 жыл бұрын
10:20, i'd say it was Hamilton and Gasly that showed the intermediate tyres to be working better than the wets as Perez pitted after said drivers
@Chuckiele
@Chuckiele 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Gasly showed pretty early that the Inters are the way to go. I dont get why everyone waited for so long.
@MostlyHarmlessPlanet
@MostlyHarmlessPlanet 2 жыл бұрын
No mention of the Williams cars failing to yield to blue flag on Leclerc and Sainz's outlaps? Would be interesting to see how much of an effect that had. Strategy for Sainz might have worked pretty well and won the race if it wasn't for Latifi.
@michaeltanner2666
@michaeltanner2666 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that. Latifi was blocking sainz for at least half a lap, and albon blocking leclerc for over a whole lap, it cost them a lot of time.
@rosa.gigantor
@rosa.gigantor 2 жыл бұрын
loved the analysis as always! was hoping for a peek at just how much the Williams especially Albon ignoring blue flags ultimately impacted the race--if they pull over immediately would the ferraris possibly make up enough time to overcome the strategy errors, the way sainz seemed to imply post-race?
@slowpoke7347
@slowpoke7347 2 жыл бұрын
Mostly agree with your analysis, but it doesn't take into account that overtaking in Monaco is extremely hard. So pitting twice was very risky. Especially if you don't have gap to be put back in. Checo was lucky Lando pitted to clear to way for him.
@lezhu6856
@lezhu6856 2 жыл бұрын
Gasly showed that overtaking with superior pace is possible. Teams took that risk
@jmeme97
@jmeme97 2 жыл бұрын
Also doesn't account for Sainz being stuck behind Latifi for half of his outlap. I think RB's strategy for Perez was still stronger than Sainz's, but it would have been close.
@slowpoke7347
@slowpoke7347 2 жыл бұрын
@@lezhu6856 You can overtake a slower car but not without being held up. Every second counts in these in and out laps. Proven by the fact that both Leclerc and Sainz got held up by the Williams.
@1whatever33
@1whatever33 2 жыл бұрын
checo wasn't lucky lando pitted. rbr knew lando was gonna pit soon, duh.
@slowpoke7347
@slowpoke7347 2 жыл бұрын
@@1whatever33 What a nonsense he could have easily stayed out and gone straight to hards. Rbr couldn't have known for sure
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for a video like this one to fully understand how the pitstops determined the race. Thank you very very much for your crystal clear explanation! 🙏
@MrADHUI
@MrADHUI 2 жыл бұрын
Red Bull's knowledge on the pit exit lines/entry lines must have been from Saudi Arabian GP where they observed Leclerc running on the pit entry line and not getting a penalty.
@codycoyote6912
@codycoyote6912 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for your analysis on the race. You didn't disappoint. Thanks!
@johnrupesh4535
@johnrupesh4535 2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this video since the finish of the GP. I knew you would explain everything.
@cianodonoghue5304
@cianodonoghue5304 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this series so great that youve found reason to be more active!
@helderboymh
@helderboymh 2 жыл бұрын
Talking points is a very good new series. Nice way to round of the weekend
@Kris_T_
@Kris_T_ 2 жыл бұрын
I think a Red Flag 'lite' could be added to the options. Under a Diet Red, cars line up in race order at the pit lane exit, no restart warning. Lights can go grees as soon as is safe. Teams can work on cars if they wish, but may lose position if they do. If you miss your place in the line because you took tyres, you cannot cut back in line, you must join the back of the line when you leave your box. Green lights will also not wait for boxed cars, box at yor own risk. This would result in position changes during a race stoppage, but I think it's fair.
@pretzelhunt
@pretzelhunt 2 жыл бұрын
if they're working on stuff in any way, it could be manipulated heavily without the ~10 minute call-up time.
@Ramon-gg3bd
@Ramon-gg3bd 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry mate, but this sounds like a casino kind of thing, not professional racing
@Kris_T_
@Kris_T_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@pretzelhunt um.... ok... I only suggested stopping in the pitlane while marshals clear up, and having the drivers wait in their cars if the stewards think the restart might be sooner than 10 min. But you're entitled to your opinion.
@pretzelhunt
@pretzelhunt 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kris_T_ Oh you said something about working on cars which is a "non-starter" in the case you're now saying on your second comment but sure: change your plans whatever whenever, Shakira.
@M4NA5
@M4NA5 2 жыл бұрын
Red Bull got a helping hand from Williams this weekend which made their strategy work. Checo was able to undercut Charles and overcut Carlos for the win.
@WalintHUN
@WalintHUN 2 жыл бұрын
lol what a theory, what if RB could watch where are the others and calculate in real time? Ferrari is so big they just slow in strategy as always, they f.ed it for themselves...
@M4NA5
@M4NA5 2 жыл бұрын
@@WalintHUN It’s not a theory but a fact. Albon impeded Charles for almost a full lap and Latifi impeded Carlos for almost half a lap on his outlap, which allowed both Red Bulls to gain positions. You can call it whatever you want.
@WalintHUN
@WalintHUN 2 жыл бұрын
@@M4NA5 and why Ferrari couldn't do a strategy or think ahead also? Do you know Haas has Ferrari engine? Sainz were in the Red Bull Junior Team and Albon too, hm-hm, but don't think Ferrari doesn't have connections, they are just couldn't react or even prevent this... now Ferrari has a competitve car, but sadly they are not there in mind to pick up the competition against RB yet which pretty hardened with Mercedes over the years.
@M4NA5
@M4NA5 2 жыл бұрын
@@WalintHUN What?
@bacunnnn
@bacunnnn 2 жыл бұрын
@@WalintHUN do you even know what you're saying or you're just making things up
@TomasPiliponis
@TomasPiliponis 2 жыл бұрын
That is an amazing piece of analysis, as usual. Thank you for an awesome content.
@LukeVesty
@LukeVesty 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always. Absolutely love this channel. I honestly don't want Monaco to change at all. I love it the way it is - always have and always will. It's my favourite race weekend of the year.
@peterfconley
@peterfconley 2 жыл бұрын
Stuart, every time I tell a mate "I'll send you a video that explains [blank]" about F1 it's always one of your videos.
@studiocyan7630
@studiocyan7630 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the fabulous explanation! I was quite confused during the broadcast, wondering how Leclerc lost so many places. But I couldn't find a satisfying explanation anywhere. Your video gets the points through so clearly, as always!
@Adjudicator1
@Adjudicator1 2 жыл бұрын
Another outstanding yet easy to understand video by Chain Bear. I really enjoyed the brief and succinct explanation of how Mick Schumacher's car breakup actually helped protect him, along with the breakdown of how the pit stop strategies were crucial in influencing the final running order.
@tompw3141
@tompw3141 2 жыл бұрын
That lead-in to the advert was as smooth as an intermediate tyre that's been out too long... :-)
@jasongibson1225
@jasongibson1225 Жыл бұрын
I personally love Monaco. It's a relic, and passing is difficult, but that just makes the small victories more dramatic.
@1197540k
@1197540k 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the upload frequency
@zhanruide84
@zhanruide84 2 жыл бұрын
Your “crazy ideas for Monaco” video was brilliant. Whenever anyone says “you can’t overtake at Monaco” I am always quick to refer to those solutions.
@TypicallyThomas
@TypicallyThomas 2 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful dosage of Chain Bear content
@beute89
@beute89 2 жыл бұрын
Gasly kicked off the intermediates stints followed by vettel, and it was the faster tyre then already, he was able to pass full wet running cars on track. (though vettel struggled to) Checos slightly later pitstop was still the perfect call as he lost track position to norris, who luckily came in right when checo was about to catch him, if he had pitted earlier he would have been stuck behind him for a few laps.
@rjfaber1991
@rjfaber1991 2 жыл бұрын
Chances are McLaren would have told Norris to let him past, I reckon. After all, Lando's race was with George, not with Checo, and losing time holding up the latter would only have compromised his own strategy.
@beute89
@beute89 2 жыл бұрын
@@rjfaber1991 i seriously doubt that. This is Monaco, 'defending' on this track is, in the vast majority of cases, accomplished by just driving like you normally would. Doing that would not have cost norris anything, in fact letting checo past would have been more of a time sacrifice. The pace difference must be enormous before defending is something norris would have to do here. You don't have to believe me, you may just have a look at how Hamiltons race went behind alonso after the red flag restart. Alonso was so incredibly slow that not long after the restart the car in front of him already had a free pitstop, which incidentally was norris I believe. And I for my part did not see alonso doing any defense moves at all, or better said, I didn't see Hamilton managing to mount even an attempt at overtaking him.
@bjarulez
@bjarulez 2 жыл бұрын
Just purchased 2 of your hoodies, cant wait for them to arrive
@Nico_M.
@Nico_M. 2 жыл бұрын
Even if Monaco gives dull races from a spectator POV, I think it's great to show how good drivers are, and this means that we should watch Monaco through another lens. Drivers have to be perfect to get a good result, and this is interesting on itself. Also, the strategy is key and has to be perfect, and this comes not only from the engineers and strategists but also from the drivers, case in point: Sainz telling his engineer why he thought that going straight to slicks was the better choice.
@adityairawan1843
@adityairawan1843 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, a lot of spectators don't want to see Monaco GP through those lens. They want overtaking and overtaking and overtaking and nothing else. I see Monaco as an absolute test for F1 drivers, a test I couldn't pass even in a damn video game. Monaco is one of three most prestigious crown of motorsport and rightfully so. Having the chance to win Triple Crown is the right of every single racing driver, yet some of the spectators want the right to be abolished (and it's saddening).
@indiebekonn
@indiebekonn 2 жыл бұрын
@@adityairawan1843 it’s not about an overtake fest as that’s just not what F1 is at all. Seriously, that track is just not fit for the purpose and cannot be called a race track when a car going 5+ seconds off the pace of the leaders holds up a whole train of cars behind him…
@ian323183
@ian323183 2 жыл бұрын
This is hands down the best F1 channel for explaining, well everything about F1. Croft could really do with watching your channel as most of the time he does not seem to have any idea of what it going on.
@thebap4596
@thebap4596 2 жыл бұрын
im happy every time u post a video
@prince_julius
@prince_julius 2 жыл бұрын
8:38 This is why I watch Chain Bear. Excellent analysis.
@trqP82wVeUMBcSCGDnv79m
@trqP82wVeUMBcSCGDnv79m 2 жыл бұрын
Great piece
@gidikalchhauser
@gidikalchhauser 2 жыл бұрын
@Taylor's version: This is hilarious! Have there always been similar Easter eggs in chain bear videos that I've just missed? I love it!
@incars1000
@incars1000 2 жыл бұрын
07:17 "any tyre of a car exiting the pit lane may must not cross any line painted on the track at the pit exit" If that's the new rule, no wonder they have trouble enforcing them, it makes no sense at all 😁
@junsengjs
@junsengjs 2 жыл бұрын
Frankly, it wouldn't be too hard to enforce it with an electronic sensor or two. Have sensors in the rims of the wheels and have sensors on the track. Once the wheels crosses(or touches) the line, it trips an alert at race control. There are a lot of ways to tackle the problem, but the FIA certainly isn't trying to solve stewarding problems with technology despite this sport being a multimillion dollar sport.
@farisadel12
@farisadel12 2 жыл бұрын
This explains it all, I was stumbled when I saw Leclerc in 4th despite not a single overtake
@LPChipi
@LPChipi 2 жыл бұрын
One of those cases where Red Bull didn't win, but rather Ferrari lost.
@Bootes_Void
@Bootes_Void 2 жыл бұрын
Not true, Ferrari did everything that they needed to do but got thrown off by Red Bull’s early and unexpected risky Checo attack with that tyre change to intermediates and putting a massive 7 second faster lap. They got knocked the fuck out and didn’t know where they were standing anymore. Even if they would’ve pitted Leclerc on the next lap after Checo, it would’ve been still game over for them.
@LPChipi
@LPChipi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bootes_Void Well, in my view telling Charles to pit and then immediately saying "no, don't pit" is not what they needed to do
@Bootes_Void
@Bootes_Void 2 жыл бұрын
@@LPChipi exactly, they didn’t know what to do anymore to get back at checo so what do they do? …they went and screwed it all up a little more and this time Verstappen took advantage of that. Monaco is a strategy race and all about the track position and Red Bull took all the risks aiming for a massive undercut since they were already behind and had nothing to lose so even if they wanted to, Ferrari wasn’t going to get that first position back after checo’s first stop.
@DekarNL
@DekarNL 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing analysis. I watched the GP twice but couldn't pinpoint why Leclerc lost so much time. This graph and explanation was on point. Thanks.
@Good_Horsey
@Good_Horsey 2 жыл бұрын
Insofar as not allowing teams to work on the cars during a red flag how are you going to get around pit crews bringing 3-4 fans to avoid the engines and brakes overheating? Seems to me like hooking all that up and taking it off would be more complicated than swapping out a tire set and yet it's necessary.
@adamlury6443
@adamlury6443 2 жыл бұрын
Since I missed the race because of my streaming service for f1 messed up when I clicked record. I didnt know how leclerc and sainz messed up getting a 1, 2 this video helped a ton
@liamtheurchin5569
@liamtheurchin5569 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as always. @2:00 "so the broadcasters don't have problems with subsequent programming" in the uk sky charge me £18 a month for 1 channel and for that I'd like to see a complete race.
@zac-oros
@zac-oros 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you give Checo some praise
@emilfrei6303
@emilfrei6303 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be a good idea to implement an extra ers deployment in the tunnel section? Like a drs advantage but without the danger due to loss of downforce. Of course the car Infront won't be allowed to use any ers when extra ers is given (in this section) I think this would make overtaking alot easier and the Monaco GP more existing
@greehun
@greehun 2 жыл бұрын
Maaan, this graphics, gorgeous!
@CalParr
@CalParr 2 жыл бұрын
The race event notes specifically say to keep to right of the pit exit line. Which regulations that priority. As race event notes are meant to add clarity to all regulations when applied to specific nuances of track then you would expect race even notes to take priority.
@brrrake
@brrrake 2 жыл бұрын
Great summary of the event. I really feel like the Officials could do a much better job and keeping the viewers informed. There was even a lot of misinformation regarding the number of race laps - the additional formation laps effectively count as race laps, which even the commentators got wrong.
@DieSpeckBohne
@DieSpeckBohne 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that thinks Monaco absolutely belongs in the calendar? It’s iconic it’s historic it is part of the F1 identity
@rexthewolf3149
@rexthewolf3149 2 жыл бұрын
Monaco’s problem is it hasn’t changed to keep up with the times. Other historic circuits like sliver stone or spa have had changes and updates to keep up with the needs of modern racing. For as historic as Monaco it hasn’t been that good for a long time and it doesn’t make sense to keep doing some just because history. Formula E should take up the race. Those cars are designed for the kind of close quarters racing that street circuits like Monaco have. F1 has just simply outgrown the venue.
@davestrider2045
@davestrider2045 2 жыл бұрын
Saint talked about traffic on his out lap. Basically he said that the strategy, while close, was a solid one but an out lap slower than it should’ve been lead to a second place.
@_bstr_ct1832
@_bstr_ct1832 2 жыл бұрын
Lando told me to tell you the dry tyres should have a far sharper upwards curve at the wet end of your graph
@marcsidanparker2373
@marcsidanparker2373 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that thinks that column chart is horrible to see time differences between cars? Why not use the normal telemetry with continuous lines? And as Palmer said, Perez wasn't the one that showed the inters were good, Gasly was the reference.
@custard131
@custard131 2 жыл бұрын
Mick gave us a much more literal interpretation of "losing the rear end" than is usually meant in motorsport lingo :p
@kidsea13
@kidsea13 2 жыл бұрын
I think at the very least this race showed how close these cars can run together
@JK7kaye
@JK7kaye 2 жыл бұрын
It's the cars that suck around monaco. Both Monaco E-Prixs around the full circuit have been awesome.
@Alex-js5lg
@Alex-js5lg 2 жыл бұрын
I like the new "tire must fully cross the line for it to be a fault" rule. It's like how they determine goals in hockey: if you can't see the white of the ice between the black of the puck and the red of the goal line, the puck hasn't completely crossed the line.
@ardavalilable
@ardavalilable 2 жыл бұрын
Only the rear left tire was in question, the front did stay within the line as seem from Leclerc's onboard footage and it was because of the oversteer he suffered while negotiating a very tight turn with tight barriers to maneuver.
@slowpoke7347
@slowpoke7347 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and I think also the line drawn here is too long.
@bpinsf
@bpinsf 2 жыл бұрын
Prompted by Toto's comment about reconfiguring the track, I went to Google Maps to see what might be possible. It looks like the track could continue along the Avenue John F. Kennedy instead of turning into the Nouvelle Chicane after the tunnel. There's already a chicane of sorts just before Tabac where Route de la Piscine connects to JFK, and room for runoff. This extended straight would allow for a true, hard-stop overtaking opportunity (with the option of DRS if necessary) without onerous modifications to the circuit.
@jose21crisisTM
@jose21crisisTM 2 жыл бұрын
Part of Monaco's problem is that it lost a bit of it's uniqueness of being a street circuit. In early 2000s, Monaco was pretty much the only street track (yes, yes, Melbourne, but Melbourne at times doesn't feel like a street circuit). Then by the end of the 2000s we had tracks like Valencia, Korea and Baku, now we have Jeddah (as disliked as it is) and Miami and we'll have Vegas. With more street tracks to compare it to, well ... not as special, other than the usually absolutely amazing Qualy session (just go watch the 2005 Q1). BTW, it was Gasly that went to inters first, struggled a bit, then started overtaking with the extra grip.
@kesakko90
@kesakko90 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure why Monaco seems to be the only track which gets singled out for debate about whether it should be on the calendar. There are plenty of other tracks that offer extremely dull races that are never talked about, and if every track got replaced after a few boring races then pretty much none of the current tracks would be on the calendar now. Just keep fixing (removing) the disruptive aero on the cars and make them smaller and shorter again and less like the giant boats they've become.
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 2 жыл бұрын
Exept Spa ofc. Spa is great. Spa was always great.
@anidiotinaracingcar4874
@anidiotinaracingcar4874 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe we should do only quali laps in Monaco? Like do Q1, Q2, and then 5 Q3 during the weekend while allowing to change setup and so on. A best lap for a given Q3 is worth 5 points, etc...
@sennadesillva
@sennadesillva 2 жыл бұрын
Lol at adding in "taylor's version". Had to go back and pause it to read that haha
@Mercman1010
@Mercman1010 2 жыл бұрын
Just pave over the marina and make a new second half of the track there where overtaking is possible. Maybe they could even add back in some Miami water
@chris86evans
@chris86evans 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the VSC after Schumacher's crash, race control said after the race they called an initial VSC just while the leader got to the start/finish straight, then the full SC could pick up the leader straight away rather than having some backmarkers between them. That way, if it DID remain a SC and not a red flag, there would be no need for anyone to overtake the SC and things could be got going again quicker and safer.
@brapgarage
@brapgarage 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, but my favorite part was when Stuart sighed at his own pun about streams.
@MatsRoslaniec
@MatsRoslaniec 2 жыл бұрын
As always when we're talkng about the future of Monaco GP, I suggest to change format from classic GP race, to Hotlap Tournament acting Prologue of sprint season. Monaco is perfect to do so - tight, demanding track and suspense of 1v1 Hotlap Battles for each driver in the bracket. At the same time, we're determining starting grid order for the next Sprint Race, without ruining GP Race, as was done in Imola.
@aavvv_
@aavvv_ 2 жыл бұрын
People were complaining about the lack of overtaking at Monaco decades ago. It is what it is, it’s not going to change.
@RoyaltonDrummer922
@RoyaltonDrummer922 2 жыл бұрын
Monaco still belongs on the calendar as a qualifying and strategy focused race
@josephwhitaker6574
@josephwhitaker6574 2 жыл бұрын
But why? Why not replace it with a circuit that has both good qualifying and a good strategy focused race? We need to get with the times and either adjust the circuit or make the cars smaller. Monaco doesn't deserve to be on the calendar just because of it's history. It should have to fight with every other circuit for entertainment purposes.
@katchaontheflipside
@katchaontheflipside 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephwhitaker6574 The history and prestige is part of the entertainment! And the fact that its the biggest challenge for the drivers
@timbraska6750
@timbraska6750 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Sainz also sabotaged Ferraris strategy a bit. If he had just covered Perez like his team told him to he could have slowed Perez down whenever it was needed to keep Leclerc in P1 and get the data on how the intermediate tire was working also.
@gustavomarques4097
@gustavomarques4097 2 жыл бұрын
Sainz is there to win and nobody told him to be leclerc's wingman. He does not have this obligation written in paper apparently. If it did, Ferrari would have put the order down and pitted him straight away.
@indiebekonn
@indiebekonn 2 жыл бұрын
@@gustavomarques4097 he hasn’t won anything yet has he? Nor has he ever even snatched a pole position so he’s a number two. I’m sure they’ll be straight about that from now on to not duck up both championships.
@gustavomarques4097
@gustavomarques4097 2 жыл бұрын
@@indiebekonn I agree, but maybe Ferrari don't. As I said above, Ferrari still holds Sainz and Leclerc on equal terms within the team and that's hurting their title run against RBR. And Sainz will not put himself into second driver duties. The whole philosophy of team management is not defined inside SF and they will suffer until they correct this situation. Sainz thought he was entitled to fight for the win and he did so because they allowed him to.
@JMR120600
@JMR120600 2 жыл бұрын
Red Bull signing perez has proved to be one of the best driver moves for both team and driver in recent history, he's seriously closed the gap to Max this year. Done a better job than Gasly or Albon ever did, though I'd argue they both could've been given more of a chance...
@Sam-th4jl
@Sam-th4jl 2 жыл бұрын
the things that make the cars unsuitable for monaco are the same things that make them hard to race in general, so having monaco in mind when designing regs is surely a good thing more than anything though i like the history of monaco, and i think it should be kept, but made into more of a special event with that history in mind. more about the history and heritage of f1, less focus on it being a championship race. i also think it doesnt need to happen every year, every other year would be good imo
@johanrichter2695
@johanrichter2695 2 жыл бұрын
There seems to be a lot of confusion what time limit was reached. I have seen lots of places where it was written it was the 2 hour limit that was reached. (The race clock apparently started 5 minutes before the race start, and with Perez' time being listed as almost 2 hours there is some support for that.)
@amooosed6670
@amooosed6670 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like an important thing to note is that when Sainz left the pitlane with his hards he got passed by Latifi and even though Latifi got the Blue Flag almost immediately he wasnt able to let him pass until the tunnel which meant that Sainz couldn't catch up to Perez for half a lap that he would have needed to win the race.
@jordandavies4482
@jordandavies4482 2 жыл бұрын
I would say that the reason verstappen got away with the pit lane exit ordeal would be the "force majeure" aspect of the rule. Force Majeure means 'act of god' and rain could fall under that. it was a wet track and a wet pit exit and he oversteered and was correcting, so I would guess that the stewards utilised that part of the rule. same reason lando didn't get a penalty in russia last year when he was coming in to pit. He was on dry tyres on a wet track and crossed the line.
@N30ZUK1
@N30ZUK1 2 жыл бұрын
If the rain was that hard at 15:16 then the radar at 15:00 must've been ominous. The tentative way they tried to get going could just be weather radar saying "99% chance of mega rain in 60 seconds!" for 15 minutes, making it a weird/difficult decision.
@TheOnlyKarkar
@TheOnlyKarkar 2 жыл бұрын
How to make Monaco a better track in two steps: 1. Remove the chicane at the end of the tunnel to create a back-straight. 2. Add a DRS zone to this new straight. Detection zone just before the tunnel with the activation point at the end. These changes would allow for an opportunity for overtaking.
@iqjump123
@iqjump123 2 жыл бұрын
Was really confused why Ferrari lost- thanks for this video and credit to perez, rb team and the lead strategist schmitz for another supreme result.
@carlosangui7490
@carlosangui7490 2 жыл бұрын
Latifi holding Sainz in the worst moment was key
@kinnexion
@kinnexion 2 жыл бұрын
To talk about your last question; if they don't change the layout, I think Monaco should leave the calendar forever. However, they're building a new island in the marina, with apartment blocks and there's talk that they are going to extend the track to include that island, with a brand new layout and overtaking opportunities
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII 2 жыл бұрын
The teams can change tires on the formation lap. Remember last year in Hungary when everyone apart from lewis pitted for slicks on the formation lap No reason why this could not have been done.
@Dougmantis
@Dougmantis 2 жыл бұрын
I like your theme, but the old version of the theme (the non 8-bit one) always ended on this really interesting chord, and the new one just ends on a regular octave chord. I miss that old theme, man.
@Reydriel
@Reydriel 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they even changed the pit exit line rule in the first place. This newer version is less restrictive (less safe) and also harder to enforce, since you now have to check if the entire tyre crosses the line instead of just any part of the car. If they wanted to give exiting cars more space... why not just paint a new line? lol
@RSalTV
@RSalTV 2 жыл бұрын
Idea to help Monaco…. institute mandatory joker laps down pit road. Monaco is usually 78 laps. So mandate that each car must run 4 joker laps throughout the Grand Prix. A joker lap would just be a drive thru of the pit lane at pit speed without stopping in their box. It would release the faster cars stuck behind slower ones and add more strategy as to when they take them.
@bizadizzle3516
@bizadizzle3516 2 жыл бұрын
They should build replicas of the cars first used in monaco in the 50s, and have the drivers race in those just for the monaco race. where each car is exactly the same spec. a throw back to how far the cars have come, and a different type of spectacle to honor the old cars. You could even throw in old F1 champs to race against the current generation of drivers.
@raymondu99
@raymondu99 2 жыл бұрын
Hi CB. Surely though wrt W-H or W-I-H, there is the factor of traffic an dpassing? Vettel was 2nd(?) onto inters but couldn’t make passing stick
@emilioferral8606
@emilioferral8606 2 жыл бұрын
a while? they were confused for the whole hour and even a bit after the race began
@ArkadiaII
@ArkadiaII 2 жыл бұрын
😄😅😂🤣😂🤣 oh, I'm dying! Turns out Red Bull really does believe "any" does mean "all"!
@nicholasleon8815
@nicholasleon8815 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the VSC first and then safety car second is because of these race directors being ex-GT directors. It is the norm for them to throw a VSC immediately and run at VSC for a few minutes before switching to full safety car. They seem to have been doing it a few times and it makes sense given then new directors histories.
@aldorinokripperino8797
@aldorinokripperino8797 2 жыл бұрын
5:45 what's the font on the right? "If we'd started..."
@DocWilco
@DocWilco 2 жыл бұрын
I love Monaco and hope it stays, especially after driving it with friends online, but the broadcast direction needs to be done by the F1 team, and not the locals. The F1 team is far from perfect, but they manage to miss a lot less than whoever does the Monaco broadcast... If Monaco won't budge on that, fuck em. F1 is for the viewers. Right?
@theyeshhh
@theyeshhh 2 жыл бұрын
7:49 trying to cover up what you just said. Lol.
@ririhoshino
@ririhoshino 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of feel like all the race start shenanigans were caused by ferrari not wanting to risk their pole in wet conditions, which in the end bite them in the bottoms very hard. Kind of instant Karma for Ferrari International Assistance. Regarding the Monaco track -its a great layout, but it was made for cars the size of bathtubs on wheels. Current cars are the size of a school bus and can barely fit there
@shaunfaloon9861
@shaunfaloon9861 2 жыл бұрын
Why did the 3 hour window begin when the start procedure was delayed?
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