What 2 Years Of Trackballing In Apex Legends Looks Like

[@jackelhog]

Would be interesting to see a video on the progression you had with a track ball. What worked/ what didn't work. Play styles that helped by track ball. Play styles that are hurt by trackball.

[@Raire]

I really like this idea. I will have to consider it.

[@CJay0ne]

awesome gameplay. im wondering about your sens, ads and stats (i guess ads is some thing around 1.5 ?). looking forward for new vids.

[@xAnAngelOfDeathx]

20+ year trackball user and gamer here, I would never go back to a mouse. Started with the Logitech Marble Mouse and still use one alongside my Gameball. I use my trackball for everything from every day use, CAD, FPS shooter and every other genre of game except racing where I use a wheel setup. I swear by the index and second finger controlled trackballs however I do not like the thumb operated trackballs. It takes about a week to start to get used to a trackball and before too long to love it. Gameball is just what it says, a high end gaming tracking suitable for anything on the pc.

[@Creshex8]

I switched to finger trackballs and pen tablets over 20 years ago after I got tired of friction issues with mice causing my crosshairs to lurch. I now game with a gyro. The best devices for FPS are probably the pen tablets. The most accurate are the gyros, and the fastest are the trackballs (due to their nearly zero ratcheting requirements). The biggest problem with finger trackballs and pen tabs are the finger real estate requirements. You need to sacrifice several fingers to operate a finger trackball or pen. Those same fingers can be used to operate buttons on a gyro controller instead. All of these devices are competitive against each other in FPS games, except for the analog stick. Those things require aim assist, something I wish we could do away with altogether. I personally use a gyro because I find it the most fun. If I had more fun with another device, I’d stick with that one. Choose your favorite device and be a good representative to your method!

[@jonintrovertedpotato3866]

This is a nice message. 👍 What do you mean by own tablets tho? Do you mean mobile gaming with fingers touch? Why are you mentioning a pen tablet there? I would like some more details on what you mean.

[@avegaiii]

⁠@@jonintrovertedpotato3866I’m sure he’s talking about the pen tablets artists use. An example would be the Wacom Intuos

[@tonyAkAage]

@@jonintrovertedpotato3866I know it’s been a month but you can use drawing tablets as a mouse to aim. Very accurate I tried but overall I didn’t like it.

[@ildarakhmetgaleev]

That is the guy I link when I am being told that trackball is bad for shooters.

[@GewelReal]

I mean, this video is nothing impressive

[@realchiknuggets]

@@GewelReal elitist detected

[@okaymarcel9273]

I'm grinding Valorant on a trackball. Currently peaked Plat 1.

[@DinosAreReal]

I demand more Raire.

[@Raire]

AAAAAA, I will consider it.

[@ScarletKobold]

I remember using a trackball from the early 2000s up to 2013-ish. I always thought the trackball was hot garbage and it was why I couldn't aim. Now I know that it wasn't exclusively the trackball's fault, haha! 😄

[@Creshex8]

In my opinion, against pen tabs, mice, gyros, and finger trackballs… finger trackballs are THE most complicated devices to learn. The reason being, there are a lot of different ways to manipulate the ball. You can use one, two, or three fingers. You can move it with your palm like you would a mouse. The control over the ball also changes as your fingers curl. I’m not even sure how I would begin to categorize the advantages of some methods over others. I used my finger trackball for browsing over large screens and for speed, but for short range speed and accuracy I used a pen tab (all at once, nonetheless).

[@Snug_GodLovesYou]

Bruh it's so nice to see a real trackball cc! Once I start making trackball vids too we've gotta team up and maybe we can even find a third. Having an all trackball team would be so sick!

[@Creshex8]

Thinking the same thing of an all gyro team. As long as one of us beats the mice or aim assist teams I’d be satisfied. I’ve been using trackballs on my desktop for over twenty years, I just like gyros more for games.

[@Snug_GodLovesYou]

@@Creshex8 yeah gyro is way better than analog sticks which is why pro Splatoon players use them.

[@ctoid]

dude you are insane

[@okaymarcel9273]

Hey! I'm using this exact trackball regularly to grind Valorant. I've currently peaked Plat 1 and I'm of course aiming for higher. I do Aimlab regularly to keep my aim well maintenanced. How has your experience been?

[@Raire]

Pretty great tbh. I swapped trackballs again just for fun but the Gameball so far has been the one that performed the best for purely gaming.

[@cyl3ersp1der11]

Hey, gj man. BTW what sensitivity do you use in apex? And do you have mouse acceleration on or of in Apex? I just got Kensington Orbit and trying it out

[@Raire]

I don't use any mouse acceleration. Sensitivity is based on whichever allows me to hit a 180 on a flick. So basically I go into a firing range, I flick to 180 and adjust the sensitivity based on if it went too far or too short. This is for every game as well, I find it more reliable to be honest.

[@perksflo]

Nice video 😁👍

[@inbredfam]

Clit mouse users superior

[@Jkduncan_]

Nice video, you made my video look like shit

[@2INSNE]

Can you do more gamplays using the track ball, this is quite entertaining. Subbed.

[@xh0rsex]

If anyone is thinking about getting into using a trackball for gaming, the Kensington Expert Mouse is considered the creme de la creme of trackballs by many enthusiasts. I used one back when I played RTCW competitively in my 20's. I'm now in my 40's and I still use one.

[@Voidsworn]

I just got a Kensington orbit scrollring mouse, as a starter really cheap. Been playing Terraria and a little bit of MechWarrior online (one match, I didn't do terrible and I lived...but still). If I get good enough, I will try your recommended trackball.

[@xh0rsex]

@@Voidsworn Note that the expert mouse will have a larger and heavier ball. I prefer the bigger/heavier balls, as I find they are easier for doing fine tune movements, but not everyone like them.

[@Voidsworn]

@@xh0rsex Are you using an acceleration curve or anything like that? If so, can you recommend settings?

[@xh0rsex]

@@Voidsworn No. All I do is set the sensitivity where I want it. I don't use any acceleration or anything.

[@thedunkshot929]

Yeah when I tell people I main a trackball, they act shocked lol.

[@Creshex8]

Mice should have been replaced with either trackballs or tablets long ago for the RSI risk alone. Both are faster and more accurate than mice (the trackball does have a larger learning curve, though).

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

​@@Creshex8 remember Swiftpoint Z that mouse was comically complex really want to play with one occasionally lol

[@christianlatshaw1767]

Did you remap your gameball? I just got one and am wondering if I should just stick with it or get some third party remaping software. And to add to John Ross Jones' comment below, maybe you could also go over what settings you had to change or get used to (if any) and why they caused you trouble, dpi, remaps, scrollwheel etc

[@HotdogSosage]

Hi dude - do you think using the mouse on your lap would be way worse? Im looking for a way to be as competitive as possible while having the mouse on my leg lol

[@Creshex8]

Look into hooking up a Dual Sense and use the gyro as a mouse. Gyros are more accurate than mice because they have no friction. You can even use a set of Joy-cons if you have trouble shaking the gyro when you pull the trigger. I’d also recommend setting the controller on a pillow in your lap for added stability and the ability to shape resistance (memory foam is nice for this).

[@NeonMinnen]

Can I ask you. Why did you start trackballing in general? Was it for a challenge? Or you had some pain from traditional mice? My wrist/elbow is killing me when I use a mouse due to an old injury, but I'm pain free when I use a trackball. only problem is that I fucking suck and I'm pretty decent with my mouse. :(

[@Raire]

It was for ergonomic reasons actually. I was starting to feel pain playing with a mouse. As for the sucking part, don't worry about that. It took me 2 years to get close to decent with the trackball. I just didn't record that part hahaha.

[@sevn8757]

Yeah me to pain in the fore arm and wrist I bought a vertical mouse it helped a lot but I've been having to use a controller for gaming. Did you buy a ball for fingertips or thumb I'm worried fingertip one might still cause pain

[@Raire]

Fingertips are what I buy for the most part. But that because that is what worked for me.

[@PistolSovereign]

There is an overwatch top 500 dps player that uses trackball at a high level. His name is Zerggy (He has a youtube channel). Some ppl thought he was cheating cuz his aim is so godlike with trackball

[@PDritty]

impressive