Raising the Hoops - ShelterLogic SP Building Setup

Tractor Time with Tim and Friends have a "Barn Raisin' ". We tackle setting up the hoops for the shelterlogic.co... ShelterLogic SP Series hoop shed.
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[@E_R_I_K]

Many hands make light work. Thank God for good friends to lend a helping hand.

[@joelhenderson5526]

Tim it's great to see people come together and work in harmony more especially in the Lord. God bless you and Christy!

[@timraber6575]

You needed your neighbors lift that was used in the tree removal episode. Good job. You also may have needed someone doing play by play, like a golf announcer!!!

[@johndeere6107]

Tim, you should have an episode where your Insurance Agent comes out and talks about building coverage. As an Iowa Insurance Agent I can tell you it is a worth while topic for other structures coverage. Great video.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good idea!

[@I_like_pears]

That building is a testament to the value of friendship! I hope it works out for you and gives you great memories of the people who helped you to build the hoop structure.

[@larrymortimer4833]

Tim, I appreciate the work your team put in to put up that structure. Three of us put up a 13' x 20' Shelter Logic and it was not easy. But our 2025R loves it's new home.

[@btj1844]

One of your best videos...some of the pros may pick on you but I think you guys did a great job overall. Like you said a scissor lift would have made a big difference, in time savings and safety. it appears that some of the lag bolts were over driven until they stripped in the base timber so please check that out when all is said and done. I own a much smaller shelter logic garage (14X 20)and it was somewhat of a challenge to assemble with a much smaller crew. Once the original covering went away in some tornadic West Texas winds about 5 years in I covered it back up with 28 ga corrugated roofing in the long direction. It's been standing for 12 more years like that now and yes, I did place some 4' deep post hole foundations under it. Good luck with the rest of the build and keep the great videos coming!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

What??? Always fascinates me when someone can make a judgement on how tight a lag bolt is from 10 seconds of video. Come on, Man!!

[@btj1844]

@@TractorTimewithTim Its just an observation Tim, I've been in commercial construction for almost 45 years and some things are easy to see. Good luck on the rest of the build, looking good.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Please point me to the exact place in the video where you see this error.

[@btj1844]

@@TractorTimewithTim It's just after 17.24, the bolt head bottoms out or stops moving but the socket continues to turn more revolutions. Perhaps I should have said one bolt instead of some but it appeared to be more than one. I'm trying to help you recognize a potential issue before it becomes one and I have no interest in picking on you or your channel, I've been watching for quite some time. Again, good luck with the build, it looks like you have the toughest part of the structure behind you.

[@richpicone7788]

That brought back memories of assembling ours. We also used our Johnny 5220. Be careful with the snow load. We did have one of our buildings get destroyed in a snow storm. Happened overnight, but we think it was a heavy, wet snow/wind combination that did the damage. Now we have a plastic roof rake with foam pipe insulation on the edge that we use to clear it without damaging to tarp.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Should be fine for the amount of snow we get.

[@MrDoyle07]

That was very cool! It's fun to see something appear where there was nothing. The people all helping was great.

[@emrythompson]

I love those little green menards buckets, helpful with all the ducks and geese. And they also work great for harvesting berries and wild grains

[@d.a.ballou9740]

I can't even imagine how difficult it is going to be putting up the cover. Those things are heavy! Can't wait to watch how you do it.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

‘Twas not easy...especially when all our help is over 50!!!

[@jackcox475]

We built a 100 ft greenhouse 17 ft tall 30 ft wide with 3 people. We used a rope to pull the hoops up. One person on base of each hoop and one to pull hoop up with rope. Worked great.

[@chris3m98]

Who did the bolts & nuts, braces, etc???

[@rkwill100]

on a farm, near me, in lewis county, a 'very similar' structure was put up to be used for storing hay bails. During the first Winter, we had a heavy/wet snow. The whole structure collapsed. I hope your structure is MUCH stronger

[@cornboy3]

I built mine upside down where I could roll it around and get to all the bolt positions then strapped a rope to the top and pulled it over. It was a lot easier. Nice build.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yours must have been much smaller than this.

[@tinachambers4887]

Hi all its sure is nice to have good friends Tim thanks for the Demostration great video Christi

[@Flyfish325]

Good job on the hoops. Talked to a farmer about putting up his own hoop building for hay storage. The worst part was putting on the tarp or canvas roof. Most manufacturers have specific equipment to pull and stretch the tarp over the hoops. Farmer said it was almost impossible to due without contractor help. Looking forward to the next segment, Tractor Tim will figure it out.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep. Your farmer friend is/was correct. This next step is difficult!!!

[@Flyfish325]

Tractor Time with Tim Hi, Maybe you could mention repairs to any holes or tears that can happen to the fabric, moving equipment. Another farmer I know put up a hoop building and put a big hole in the side the next day with a hay spear. He was still mad about ten years later, he got it fixed with a patch. Everyone that has put a hoop building said they love them, relatively inexpensive, great for covered storage. Wish I had one for round hay bale storage.

[@larryboyle590]

Built one of the peak styles with family help a couple of years ago. Only 24x36. Mine has a metal base instead of the 6x6. Pleanty of ratchet straps used also. Used my mason dump truck with a ladder in the bed to reach the peak for connecting the frame sections together.

[@1kmlarose]

I own 3 of the Shelter Logic buildings. A small 6x6, a medium 8x12 and a larger one at 12x24. I live in Wyoming and I have had them going on 3 years. They have held up very well under the conditions of more than 5' of snow, rain and really hot and dry weather. I am very impressed at your super large Shelter Logic building. I hope you have as much luck with yours as I have had with mine. I really enjoy your channel and your positive attitude. You actually influenced my decision to purchase my own JD 1025R. You and Christi have a wonderful disposition and can do attitude. It's actually infectious, which is a good thing during all of this craziness and uncertainty. Keep up the awesome channel!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for the kind words, Kevin.

[@chrissterling3225]

Hello folks..i enjoyed this episode...anytime you do a garage improvement or put up a shelter is fun to watch . I know tractors and equipment is the primary subject..but the buildings they are in are equally important..looking forward to the rest of the project

[@OHIOMANUSMC]

Another Great Episode Of Tractor Time With Tim !

[@ColtonBlumhagen]

I gotta see you tarp the roof. I've only ever seen it done with a cherry picker. Yes I would definitely get a scissor lift and probably a zoom boom to lift the hoops if it was me doing it.

[@Kcolby47]

Nothing like a “new-fashioned” Shelter-raising to truly appreciate a team effort on such a project. Good work by all and look forward to “wrapping” it up. (I know that was baaad.😉 )

[@multibikermike4681]

Good way to get tarp over is to put 21ft pieces of pipe in the pockets. You need 3 of them and screw them together. Tie off ropes every few pockets, throw them over the hoops and pull a short section at a time. Maybe you can use all your tractors to pull while crew is on ladders guiding pipe up and over. That 21.5 oz tarp is a heavy one. Good Luck!

[@multibikermike4681]

Maybe 3/4" or 1" steel pipe will work. You could always use the pipe for something else unless you want to return it (because it's the wrong size) lol Just don't scratch it. Lol!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We have already done it...so advice at this point is a bit late for us :-(

[@rogerf3622]

Awesome video that makes you feel you’re right there. And the fantastic arial photography that was able to show details ground cameras couldn’t capture. Also great info on what works best assembling this shelter. Thx.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for the kind words.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

All of the details about our building, including cost, size, etc are located at shelterlogic.com/ttwt Please go to that link to find those details. You'll be able to see the cost, warranties, wind and snow ratings, and even download the installation manual (so that you can point out all of the things we did wrong). In any case, looking there would be much easier that typing out a question for me that is already answered there. Thanks!

[@jamesellard8454]

Using a rope to help pull up from the top would really ease the strain from that 3rd one on. Looks great, really enjoy all the videos you put out. 👍 Edit...commented before you made the rope statement

[@glenpostman]

Just a little secret from a freight guy. Put forks upside down on tractor ,that will give you about 16 inches more height. ( take forks off and put back on upside down.)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Welcome to our channel. I have shown that within the last month on this channel.

[@79lynch]

we put the first three hoops together on the ground then raised them in place

[@TKCL]

I've been thinking about building me a work cage for my tractor forks, seems very useful.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Need two people...one to drive.

[@TKCL]

@@TractorTimewithTim understand that, my wife can drive.

[@Formulabruce]

White tarp! Wow! I hope this building is above your "flood plane"

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, I hope so too! I could add another 3-4 inches of rock if necessary.

[@American_Heathen]

Shelter Logic sheds are nice. I use one to keep my truck out of the snow. It get plenty warm when the sun hit it.

[@josheppley2767]

I appreciate the realism of this video

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks Josh. It is real world...not polished for sales purposes. We feel that folks need to see what it is REALLY like. ...it isn’t bad...just not trivial.

[@plainwornout3964]

I know it's up to each individual but you should be wearing mask. Is there any diagonal cables or bracing to keep it from blowing down lengthwise like a row of domino's? Remember, you don't have steel sheets to keep it from racking. Enjoyed the video.

[@GriffithsFfestiniog]

Ok just dried my palms, great neighbours but a man lift would have helped me watch this video and made the whole experience more enjoyable. The size of the structure looks really good and will be a very useable space looking forward to seeing the rest of the build.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

After the first two, it was not difficult

[@williamgaines9784]

Platform scissor lift would be best. The lift could be turned parallel to allow the two that you have in your box to work together and separate on the frame as needed. If you got it that far in 4 hours you did great.

[@rpsteele7515]

I wished I lived closer, Tim. I'd love to be able to help out (and possibly get a chance to mess with a few of your awesome toys 😂). As always, love the video and enjoy watch you and your family are doing!

[@ExploringCabinsandMines]

The instructions for our building have you set 2 inch pipe in concrete then you set the hoop ends over the pipe so they would stand alone.

[@IHcubcadet]

Great team work there. Nice work.

[@brucealvarez9263]

New old fashioned barn raising party!

[@benjaminstockton3917]

Good work guys thanks for sharing Tim

[@bobkyllo578]

I built my 30x40 15 foot wall up on a 3 foot knee wall with my father. Just the two of us. We only had a tractor and loader but I was using the other green (Oliver)

[@outdoorswithlarryrobin]

Tim, Thanks for your great reviews on little Johnny, we just purchased a 1025R and Love It!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Congratulations!!

[@johanbos160]

Nice big shelter tim and kristie looks good

[@mikefortune4796]

Hi Tim and Christy the shelterlogic seems to be the way to go for space your friends worked hard to get it done nice video

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks 👍

[@bobpurs]

Nice team work. Gonna be nice Tim 👍

[@adammccraney1758]

Love your videos Tim can't wait for the next one

[@jakeschisler7525]

I watched one being built before and the guy tied water bottles on the tarp with rope threw them up over to other side , I'm sure there could be other ways doing it. Paul Short has those but not as wide. He welded old rims for footings down in the rock after digging deep holes for anchoring.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Paul’s are the cheaper ones. No comparison to this heavier duty style.

[@jakeschisler7525]

@@TractorTimewithTim I realize yours are stouter

[@woofyw.2703]

The man lift from a earlier video be would of been the perfect machine for this job .

[@terryluebbe2560]

For the first 2 or 3 hoops, I would have considered leaving the bottom 6-8' section off on both sides while fastening the tops of the hoops together. Then tilt it up to add the lower sections on one side, then the other. Just a tho't.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Heavier than they look.

[@jackcox475]

P.S. we also used scaffoling for bolting the center pipes and perlings.

[@snapperkc9317]

Nice work... You and your crew have job security!

[@nathanbrodeur]

Tim this shelter going up I'm sure that your Dad is watching over you and the ones that are helping you raise it up

[@allenjackson1371]

Good job Thank God for good help God Bless and stay safe

[@johnlucs1121]

You should have kept that high reach lift around to put the hoops up. I like that you used the crate for Bill to stand in. Was it chained off to the fork backrest? Also, you could have gotten a little higher by flipping the forks.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, was attached to the forks. Yes, coulda turned the forks over.

[@davidhosmer1424]

Your viewers might enjoy Lumnah Acres on youtube. this past Winter / Spring they built a similar large greenhouse. Mostly one or two of them sometimes a few friends Thanks for bring us along. Take care ( HEY Katriel )

[@joeyshofner4950]

You made that look easy.

[@nathanreed3302]

these look pretty neat and convenient but i have an issue with a $6000 building the craft lady next door can break in to with her scissors. but i do like the shape of that building you have.

[@nohand322]

Howdy Tim. Can you see the light at the end of the Tunnel yet ? hahahahahaha Take Care, it's looking good 👍

[@jimg8218]

Good video on what it takes to get frame up

[@CapeAnnImages]

I learned I can't assemble that myself! An extended 2x4 would have helped with the shoulders of those who were pushing up the hoop. And perhaps having the tractor on your trailer might have helped. None the less outstanding teamwork and leadership! Best Regards, Jay

[@jdcompman]

There is an obvious blue ratchet strap around it...

[@CapeAnnImages]

@@jdcompman Thanks I saw that later. I was looking for a chain that we used for a "man box" between the box and fork frame we had at work.

[@marvnewell]

Very fitting bible verse at the end!

[@grantneuner3353]

If you ever put up another one build the hoops in the air ive built many 30’ and 40’ wide hoop barns just starting from the bottom and working your way to the peak

[@peterkoster5053]

Should have flipped those forks upsidedown like you did on the 1025r to get your top pallet rack. I'm kidding of course.

[@1259bogs]

I’m really interested in seeing how this holds up over a few years. I had a very heavy duty carport up for 2.5 years but the tarp is shot! 2 foot of snow many times probably wasn’t great for it. But I also got it used. But I’ve looked into shelterlogic before to replace it but couldn’t find a very good review

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Be aware that there are radically different qualities of shelterlogic structures. The little 10x20’s are very temporary...at a very low cost.

[@ericlaker1983]

I really like the idea Tim. Feel that your doing a fine job!!! I always feel that your leading the way lol!!! Dang it. Your a step ahead. Needing a barn for cattle and I had a plan till you started this. We have allot of hoop barns around where I live. Southern Indiana. But I'm finding yours idea is cheaper !

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Ha! Not sure if I should apologize, or thank you for the kind words :-) Just kidding. You would have to keep the cattle away from the actual canvas somehow.

[@79lynch]

I put three pices togewther on the ground then raised them up

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We discussed this at idea with the first two, but we weren’t confident we could get them stood up.

[@marksleeper3752]

nice tim

[@driver4x4truck63]

We are thinking about getting a car port shelter for our 1025R.

[@alanhayes3156]

No Actors were harmed making this video. Lol

[@omaram1130]

Hey Tim, would you do another video showcasing the 5075E? I"m really interested on the transmission, and how the power-reverser works. Also, would you demonstrate the shifting with the clutch on road? How fast does it go on C gear and in fourth? Thanks. Love the Channel!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

20 mph.

[@realairplane261]

Tim you are one cool dude... Good voice to listen to and are you sure you are not minister....

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We’re all called to be ministers, right?

[@realairplane261]

I suppose you are right, but some are hard of hearing. You are one of the most composed person that I have listened to. CHEERS

[@typeebs93]

Probably could ve tried using a jib pole on the tractor

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, would have been slower, but would have worked.

[@stevek4449]

Curious, would a steep crown in the middle have helped with lift height being gained like the crown were a ramp of sorts then scoop it out later? I like the “safety cage” with the pallet forks😃👍

[@blessedandhappy3921]

Just wondering if you have picked winners for the grease gun give away, just asking🙂. God Bless and I don’t me to rush.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, winners picked. Will be announced Friday 7am, and who knows, the winners may already have their guns by then!

[@michigantler5046]

good job

[@semco72057]

That building looks like it will be difficult to assemble and probably cheaper to hire a crew to put it up instead. The tarp which goes up on the frame must be hard to put up and not designed to last very long though. I would like to have a building like that, but can't afford it right now.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good to hear from you, Sidney!

[@ryanoneill8059]

I see Johnny and Vinny on the trailer in the background. Hopefully we got to see small Johnny do some work.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Didn’t take the camera to that project. Thought it wasn’t gonna be interesting. Turned out to be really good. Made a trail through a wooded back yard.

[@BubbasWorkshop]

Could you install the feet the other way (the pieces that were lagged into the wood )so that they pivot parallel to the wooden beams instead of perpendicular? If so you could lay the hoop flat, bolted into the feet and then just use a rope to pivot it up (like opening a flat storm cellar door)? Seems like you could do it with almost one person then?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Interesting idea. The only problem is that the entire weight of the building would be on the lags with that approach.

[@frankhartmeyer9841]

Tim I don't remember if you said what is the cost to put up something like this approx. ?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I mentioned the website repeatedly! shelterlogic.com/TTWT

[@Briceland107]

One thing that would of helped was you can put your forks on the carrier upside down and gain about 3-4’ of extra height

[@STAFFORDTRUCKING]

When I was a kid I seen my dad take a skinny log and attach it to the the loader bucket. And on the other end 20 feet or so he bent rebar and made a S hook. He built and set all of out trusses like that.

[@carmineciampi5921]

Surprised you did not recruit your other buddy Dick with the boom you used to cut down the trees behind the shed about 4 weeks ago. That would have ben ideal. None the less nice job!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Dick was here. ...his lift was employed elsewhere.

[@mikebreazeale2563]

Great video as usual but I had a question...what do you guys use to talk to each other with all the noise going on? I'd like to get something that I can talk to my wife in the yard or house when I am mowing...also so she can talk or ask me something while I am mowing...Thanks for your time Tim and keep up the great work.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Phone and Isotunes

[@mikebreazeale2563]

@@TractorTimewithTim Okay...not sure what that means for sure but Thanks

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@mikebreazeale2563 have you seen the isotunes bluetooth noise isolating earbuds we show in our videos? if not, check them out. we make a phone call to each other using these

[@jamesdiehl8690]

Don't tell me you're gonna have to read the instructions for that too? Lol! Tim, I'm shocked, the Tool Man reading instructions?

[@thomasyerbey337]

Hey Tim 🇺🇲 I really like this setup. About how much does something like this cost thank you for sharing the information I really enjoy watching your vlogs 🇺🇲

[@TractorTimewithTim]

shelterlogic.com/ttwt

[@mitchp350]

Do they give an estimated amount of wind they will with stand? I really would not worry much about snow load, as when it snows here it is usually blowing so the snow would not stay on it long.. I see they are wind and snow rated, but no where that I can find does it give the estimated rate of wind.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I do not know.

[@gussoefje6430]

I’ve done that before but with heavy I beam and perlin. Make sure you stay safe when doing this. And do you know if John Deere sells a rear scv kit for 3e series tractors. Looking at putting rear scv’s on my 3032e to run a rake.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I dunno.

[@Dan-oz4qb]

Where's that lift you were trimming trees with a few weeks ago?

[@cwolf8841]

If you built the first two together on the ground, then lifted them up together, might that be easier?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Mighta been. We discussed that idea...was afraid we couldn’t lift it...

[@cwolf8841]

@@TractorTimewithTim Understand. It is actually a complex problem. How to fix the "feet" so they don't skate while pulling lifting an assembly higher than the tractor FEL height. All without bending or breaking the assembly. Cheers.

[@mikelewis4792]

Why did you not put a sheet of plastic under the stone???

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Never thought about it

[@dalemarshall9736]

Maybe would have been a good idea to rent a man lift for the day!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

This portion of the project went fine.

[@dsumner7]

I'm not a hoop barn builder...but the first thing I noticed...the 2x4 to push up the hoops were too short. I bet those guys ate three cheeseburgers!!!

[@msdiego2k]

You can turn the forks, this way you will gain about another 1m.

[@JoeyCucchiara]

How long is the covering rated/warrantied for?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

15yr pro-rated. More details on covering in next episode

[@JoeyCucchiara]

Tractor Time with Tim thank you!

[@billfenner7084]

The building looks great so far. What kind of top goes on the shed

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Stay tuned :-) Next episode on this project is likely Sunday 7am :-)

[@billfenner7084]

@@TractorTimewithTim I am looking forward to seeing that.

[@sharpasadullknife]

Tim where did you get the plastic container used on the forks and do you remember how much it was?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

You can get at U-Line

[@FishFind3000]

looks like the man lift would have be perfect for this...

[@olivermansfield8341]

Tim. Couldn't you just get two, 2x6s and screw them together to make a temporary bomb for the tractor to lift the arches?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I’m not sure a bomb would help :-)

[@olivermansfield8341]

@@TractorTimewithTim 😂😂😂😂, your right Tim, it wouldn't. I don't know many bombs you can make using a 2x6s. I meant boom, like an arm, I'm not sure why it corrected it.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yea, boom would make lifting it easier, but I doubt ‘faster’. Move tractor, hook up, lift, move, adjust, unhook, etc. Likely more time overall, and maybe more effort given that the hoop would be swinging, etc. this way seemed to work well.

[@olivermansfield8341]

@@TractorTimewithTim I'm just thinking how to do that with less manpower, its all well and good when you have 8 people who can be there to lift it all, but doing it with just 2 people?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yep. Would be hard to do with 2 people. Especially the next part! Getting the canvas installed!

[@danielrobert1680]

Tim, what kind of plastic container did you have on the tractor forks? Also, where did you get it?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We got it from one of Christy’s workplaces...but you can get at U-Line.

[@danielrobert1680]

Ty much!

[@kbussie1]

can you turn your forks over

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes