Raising the Yamaha Outboard Engine and Lake Tasting it on my Crooked Pilot House Boat

[@DCFloridasport]

Great to see you doing the right thing even if its a heavy job, you really care about your boat brother!!!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@DCFloridasport Thank you, captain and yes, you know it.It is my passion😉👍⚓️

[@michaeltully3375]

This video brings back memories. I spent a many of summers with my grandparents at that lake. They lived in St. Cloud. Great Video.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@michaeltully3375 Thank you, captain.And that lake is awesome because it is 3 miles long with no obstructions.Great for testing.Thanks for watching and see you on the next video captain

[@danc9440]

Another awesome video brought to you by Captain GOAT!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@danc9440 thanks cap.👍

[@andrewfyakim525]

@@OutOnTheReef YES, OOTR is the GOAT boat guy! ☺

[@francus7227]

You da bess.... I tapped the thumbs up button to feed the algorithm monsters....

[@OutOnTheReef]

@francus7227 You're awesome and you know he is hungry 😋

[@timpowell-us6wu]

Thanks great content. Take a look at a Finnmaster 61CA, she's my toy, smaller and lighter than yours but many similarities. 👍

[@OutOnTheReef]

@timpowell-us6wu I saw a video it has a bigger cabin very nice and thanks for the super thanks cap. Navigate safe and enjoy that beautiful boat⚓️👍🛥

[@scottrushworth]

Hi Capt, If I may, I'll pass on some of my thoughts regarding your propeller selection and testing methods. Firstly, welcome to be world of heavy, deep-v boats running single outboards. It's a long learning process. Wait till you get twin engines! Let's talk motor height first. You're height adjustment, going up one hole seems spot on in this video. From a drag perspective, the higher the motor, the better performance. But there comes a point going too high, where you start to lose thrust during turning manoeuvres due to cavitation. As a general rule, to confirm engine height, the motor should not cavitate when turning and fully trimmed in. It should start to caviatate when trimmed up in a normal running position, when moderate turning is conducted. This confirms the motor is as high as possible yet still allows moderate turning performance. This is why you trim in to turn hard. Also known as optimum mounting height. Your height, at the top hole, seems great! Good job Captain! Now for trim. It appears you have the philosophy that the motor needs to be fully trimmed in to offer the best economy and performance. This is incorrect! You should gain a few hundred rpm at WOT from the fully trimmed in position, to the maximum trimmed up position. The target WOT RPM should be reached at a fully trimmed up position, as far as it goes before either the nose starts to porpoises, or the propeller starts to caviate. This is the wot target rpm. This test for WOT RPM should be at a maximum weight configuration as you did in the test. By virtue of doing this way, it means at light weight configurations, you can over rev the motor. That's completely fine as you can limit maximum throttle at light weights to ensure you don't exceed max rpm or encroach on the limiter. This is how you generically benchmark a propeller for general boating purposes. It's certainly not the best way! Propeller Selection Like above, you seem to have a philosophy that you need to be going fast with good economy. This works in principle with small boats and motors, but you are not in that field. Your expectations have to be realistic. Do you want a high speed boat or do you want a long range boat? Its a trade off situation. They don't go hand in hand. In your case, you're looking to cruise, at a cruising range of speeds, to achieve best fuel economy. If this philosophy is correct, why does it matter what max speed you're getting! I'd be sacrificing top end speed for best mid range economy and holeshot thrust! That means, at say 3600-4400 rpm range, you want to be getting the best economy, and accept whatever the speed that produces for your boat type and configuration. Best economy means lowest engine load at the highest speed possible. This is where your tests should be aimed. Run each propeller at 3400, 3600, 3800, 4000 and 4200rpms and data log the speed and fuel flow for each set point. Then, by comparing data fields, you can perform analysis and derive outcomes. My personal opinion on your propeller setup is that your engine load is still far too high, and to reduce that load, you have to reduce the propeller diameter. For a heavy deep v fibreglass boat like yours, 14 1/2 inch propeller has too much surface area for a 225, creating too much rotational resistance for your 225hp to easy turn. That's why you're already at 15 inch pitch. Yuck! It's effectively lugging your engine due diameter. You're only reaching maximum rpm because you're all the way down to a 15inch pitch. This is why you have high fuel flow! Increasing diameter increases surface area which increases drag, increasing fuel burn. To unload it, try a 14 1/4 inch diameter, or even a 14inch if you're really heavy, which will unload the rotational drag of the prop, and play with pitch. I'd say a 14 1/4 at 17inch pitch would give you much better mid range economy, despite the fact you will loose some top end speed. But remember, top speed is not the priority, economy is! Going a larger diameter prop will further load the engine and hinder economy. The only way to to reach results is either by trial and error, or by analysis of data. This will give you the absolutely best performance and economy. I hope this assists you gaining positive results. Get that laptop out, open excel, and start logging data. All the best, love your videos capt!

[@MultiGen3]

I learned so much from this post. Thank you!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@scottrushworth wow cap. Sutch a great info I felt like you ware teaching me really great info and yes Cruising speed is what I want, and in future videos you will love the new lake test that I will do cap. I really appreciate you're awesome help in taking your tongue to explain to me, captainand we're all learning here.Thank you for your advice.It means a lot to me😉👍⚓️🛥

[@scottrushworth]

@OutOnTheReef can't wait to see your results! Hoping you find that sweet spot! Also, I've recently discovered the 4.2litre has 1.75:1 gearbox ratio. The older 3.3litre model had a 2:1 ratio and your old 200 4cylinder has a 1.86:1 ratio. So you will be able to run a slightly larger diameter prop than I suggested above, being that your gearbox ratio is shorter. All the best, keep the videos coming! Big fan from Brisbane, Australia 🇦🇺

[@OutOnTheReef]

@scottrushworth yes that is a great point cap , That's why the 200 did such a good gas Mileage is like having a second ⚙️ gear Thanks for the information captain All that information really helps appreciate your Your dedication to help me you're awesome

[@brianmcnulty966]

Hi cap! So at this point, how happy are you with the upgrade to a V6 225 over the V4 200? Especially with the 4 blade prop. I have a 20 ft Robalo with a f150 Yamaha and a 4 blade prop with a 200 hp max capacity. I have considered getting a 200 hp v6 or even switching to a mercury 200 hp v8 but wonder if it would be worth the trouble and expense. I am mainly concerned with cruising and rough water performance, as well as pulling the grandkids on a tube at low speed. What are your thoughts? Love your channel!

[@maxfrenn3281]

Very interesting. Looks like you made the proper adjustments for your ship. Thanks for showing the boat getting on the trailer.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@maxfrenn3281 Anytime captain and thank you for watching

[@craigtully1709]

Keep dialing it in! Progress 👍

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@craigtully1709 Thank you, captain.I am getting very close

[@Michael-cf9lf]

I believe in testing a boat in rough water thats where you want to know how it does the last thing you want is an unpleasant surprise once you find yourself in rough conditions. Also if I were to find myself wanting to replace a prop on the water I would do so in no more than 10' of water just because you never know but thats just me Im ok with rough conditions

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@Michael-cf9lf I agree, captain, it's better to be safe. And I agree on the rough waters testing

[@davidgibson8292]

That's so awesome you got a new motor captain if I was you I would go with a 24 or 25 pitch that's a big heavy boat it might be little slower out hole buy it will push the boat better and give you more control and burn less gas the bigger the cup the more the scoop so it don't take as much with a bigger prop and most time the smaller props like 14 through 19 pitch are for water skiing because there faster out the hole not for speed and long distances like the bigger props are I hope this helps you .good luck and good fishing Captain .

[@OutOnTheReef]

great info cap thank you

[@RalphSanabria]

Hi Captain, you are a fun person to watch and you are doing the right thing to make adjustment on your motor by the way the fool looks good. ⚓️🇺🇸

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@RalphSanabria Thank you, Ralph.I really appreciate your positive comment😉👍☕️⚓️

[@iTerence28]

Great video to watch. On mine f225 I have an ss prop 15,5 X 17R. Max rpm 5300 and top speed 38 mph

[@OutOnTheReef]

@iTerence28 that is a great choice I'm looking at a similar size cap. And what is your best MPG cap?

[@andrewfyakim525]

Hi Capt.... great information as always, and fun to watch! The lake was very rough, and yet you still can change the prop from the boat; I have a hard time changing the prop when I'm standing beside it on the trailer on land! ☺

[@tomd.43]

I would probably have dropped it in the water and be gone forever.

[@andrewfyakim525]

@@tomd.43 And I would have dropped it (the prop) in the water, along with the castle-nut, washer, cotter pin and all the tools too! ☺

[@OutOnTheReef]

lol cap i had a grip on the outboard 🤣 it was hard and thanks for watching my video

[@OutOnTheReef]

lol i was scare cap.

[@OutOnTheReef]

lol cap you had me laughing 😁👍😂

[@edvelz8073]

Definitely 4 blade is the one 👌

[@OutOnTheReef]

@edvelz8073 thanks cap. I think the next propeller will do better cap👍

[@duffyreef]

Adjusted prop pitch on my 21 Steiger all the way up to a 23 pitch ! That was too much killed my low end start offs Settled on the 21! Perfect.

[@OutOnTheReef]

yes cap each pitch lowers your rpm s and we need to have the right amount cap very true

[@nickramos6859]

Look at Sharrow marine props. They are expensive but provide great fuel savings. They also indicate good stern lift. Good luck Cap!

[@OutOnTheReef]

i called them to work with me but they ware not interested on working with me cap. i think my channel is too small for them, thanks for the recommendation

[@captainrick9379]

Well I going to say the changes you made definitely made improvements! But after watching this video, My back hurts and I'm hungry! 🤣 👍⚓

[@OutOnTheReef]

lol cap you had me laughing , take 2 Tylenols 🤣

[@jeremykey4563]

Back out on East Lake. I haven’t been by since the storms. Man is that lake up!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@jeremykey4563 Yes the water level is high but the wind was terrible

[@haroldmartin4547]

Guess I was very lucky, did not need to rearrange my twin 350 Yamaha's. I was not as worried as alot of people are about milage, lucky I guess have 300 gallon tank. Enjoyed the video Captain, take care 👍👍👍👍

[@OutOnTheReef]

300 gallons is huge cap , and thanks for watching cap

[@craigc.7033]

And I thought you were living the dream??? 😃😃😃 Been there, done that...well, at least you enjoyed a cold beer. 😊😊😊

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@craigc.7033 lol cap no beer here I'm workings 🤣

[@oh-brothers]

That was a relief Captain !!! It feels good to know that the new motor can get some decent MPG.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@oh-brothers Yes, and I think with another propeller.It could do better

[@farolnortefarol1229]

Very nice work Cap. You know what you doing. That's is so nice.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@farolnortefarol1229 Thank you, captain and I'm sure I could do better.I just need a better propeller.Thanks for watching captain

[@primetimefishing2436]

Eres un caballo! Congrats man! Keep dialing it in. Your brave changing the propeller in open water. I am a klutz and would have most likely dropped it in the water. Haha.

[@OutOnTheReef]

LOL cap, You can do it! i had to get a grip on that engine for not to fall 😂👍👍👍have a great night cap.

[@OutOnTheReef]

saludos capi

[@primetimefishing2436]

Haha

[@thelastmoderate3682]

Cap, make sure you take the Mrs to crabby bills. You’ll both love it

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@thelastmoderate3682 thanks we have been there before👍thanks

[@keylargojoe62]

You'll get it dialed in the 4 blade looks like a winner!! Pero has un Segundo canal! Cooking with out on the reef!!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@keylargojoe62 Thank you captain y si Cooking with Out On The Reef en el agua

[@busuttilmark]

Hi Cap, I'm glad you're making progress, raising it was very good, but you now need a 16 inch dia prop in my opinion. As a side note, if you keep this engine height on those bolts you need to drill another hole at the top each side to have 2 bolts per side, as its too high for that bolt and it will put stress on the transom when underway.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@busuttilmark thanks cap. And yes a bigger diameter it sounds about right and yes I was thinking of that, I see the 250 and 300 yamaha have 2 extra bolts , great point cap. Thank you for your advice

[@OutOnTheReef]

@busuttilmark hello cap I checked and if I drill on top it will weekend the transom more because there is no space but in the bottom holes I added a bolt side to side transom plate like the one on too for extra extreanth, what you think of that

[@busuttilmark]

@@OutOnTheReef The issue is when you push throttle to go forward the engine will want to pull away from the top of the transom. I still suggest you place 2 bolts at the top and since you have limited space you should work an 8 mil stainless steel plate with predrilled holes for the bolts and this will bring everything together, solidifying the transom. I have a picture of one I did, I can send it over for you to visualize to what i'm saying. Let me know where to send it..

[@OutOnTheReef]

@busuttilmark hello cap. I will love to see it is anyway you can upload to your channel so I can see it because I don't have a channel email, thank you

[@busuttilmark]

@@OutOnTheReef i uploaded something, tagged you. Not sure you can see it.

[@GingerNinja68]

Nice one. Looks like it’s all coming together captain

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@GingerNinja68 Yes, little-by-little bit.I am getting best adjustments.Thank you for watching captain

[@agaramelan7319]

Hit to the max capt .feel the power ....and get a cup😊

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@agaramelan7319 lol cap A cup of fuel or coffee ☕️ 😁

[@DaDuddaMan64]

Hey Skipp now you can add, on water prop mechanic to the resume

[@OutOnTheReef]

lol i like that 😁👍👍👍

[@stevewoodward7172]

That worked a treat Skipper, well done. Im still setting mine up with the "ProPulse" prop and have just moved house so the boat is on the back burner for a little while. Although I am running a Suzuki 250 our boat weighs close to five tonnes so it will never perform like yours and its semi displacement.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@stevewoodward7172 wow cap that's heavy 😳 mine is about 5800 Lb but In the nextupgrade I think it's gonna do a lot better.Thanks for watching

[@haywoodjablowme2972]

you know your it captain

[@OutOnTheReef]

@haywoodjablowme2972 thanks buddy 😉👍⚓️🛥

[@randymiller5008]

Ol 4 Blade Done the Trick . I'd run that one Cap 💯🎣✌️

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@randymiller5008 It's an awesome propeller but I think I could do better with another different type captain

[@randymiller5008]

@@OutOnTheReef Sharrow is the very best. But there also around 3k bucks. Lol

[@johngranato2673]

Oh, I remember all that fun

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@johngranato2673 lol thanks cap.

[@ftlaud911]

Great job raising engine. Choosing the right prop is +/-. Technically, all being equal 3 blade should raise rpm, less hole shot, and higher top end speed. 4 blade is lower rpm, better hole shot, and lower rpm. The key is finding perfect pitch and size, but higher HP equals more fuel. Rule of thumb is HP rating (10%) equals fuel burn per hr so 22.5 gallons at high rpm. It's maybe possible, but don't think you will get the same mpg with a bigger motor unless they changed the motor design to be more fuel efficient. I'm sure you know all this already just trying to help. Lunch looked delicious!!

[@OutOnTheReef]

thanks cap, and yes that 1.75 gear ratio is better to be bigger like Suzuki , but i will get close to the 200 hp MPG cap im hopping , thanks for your comment cap.

[@Kevstage]

Hello Captain. I know there’s a lot of know it alls out there but I felt the need to share this. 4200 is a sealant with adhesive properties that can be removed if necessary. It is PLENTY strong for work above the waterline. Common practice around here is 5200 below the waterline, for thru hulls and things that can sink your boat. 4200 above the waterline and for anything else.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@Kevstage I would love to use 5200 captain but if I have to move the engine up or down that will make it impossible it would have to break the Gellcoat

[@micuraPR]

@@OutOnTheReefexactly. 4200 is great for this application. The bolts will do the adhesion. The 4200 will do the sealing.

[@robertrickabaugh3304]

Good to see you got the numbers back up

[@OutOnTheReef]

@robertrickabaugh3304 thanks cap. And I know I will do better soon with the right propeller, Thanks for watching

[@primate2744]

4 blade props can give you more "grip" climbing steep waves while offshore as well as better hole shot. Glad you're making some progress.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@primate2744 Thank you, captain.And now I am looking for the best prop for my boat👍⚓️😉

[@nofameculture]

Awesome 😎! 📢📢 Steam ahead ⚓

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@nofameculture Thank you captain

[@checkthewater39]

If you can....... try some Mercury Mirage Plus props. I have had 225s 250s and 300s and a lot of props those MMPs just work really well.

[@OutOnTheReef]

thanks cap it will be great to try them

[@micuraPR]

That was a good test to do. Now go get the big prop for the V6 and sell the little props to someone that has a 4 cylinder.

[@OutOnTheReef]

yes you are right cap that will be the plan , thanks

[@ReelGZ]

How do you launch and retrieve your boat? Can you do an instructional video, please? I have the same boat and would love some tips on how to do it by myself. Love your videos btw.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@ReelGZ I have some videos in my channel but not specifically about that and thanks for the great idea cap.

[@tpino4867]

Capt. Glad to see you are getting better mileage by going up on the motor, Now you need to prop it right. Some backcountry fishermen use a four blade prop because you get a better hole shot and get on plane faster when fishing skinny water but you will loose some top end. I have never used then on backcountry boat nor my offshore boat. I like to cruise as as I can😂 and the three blades did the trick for me. Your boat is bow heavy so you need too see what works best for your vessel.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@tpino4867 Thank you, captain for your awesome suggestions.And I have a few propellers in mind that I would like to try and I'll bring the results to you , captain , thank you for watching

[@carlosdelaarena2575]

Capt. A 4 blade prop requires more engine height to perform correctly. 3 blade props will bring the best fuel economy and speed almost always. I don't know if the Yamaha can run a 16 inch diameter 3 blade prop like my Suzuki does. I see 2.8mpg to 3.2mpg at around 4200rpm on a 24 Albemarle with Suzuki 300. I feel like you should see 2.8mpg loaded when it's all said and done. Shoot for 5500rpm top end fully loaded as you will gain rpm as you loose weight along a trip and the 4.2L will have power to get you on plane anyway. I think 18x9 trim tabs are a must for your rig. Remember the bigger the tabs the less you have to dig them in. The smaller they are, the more they act as a brake. I'm surprised the 3 blade props you tried did not slip at that engine height. Good luck, you're on the right track. PROP CLEAR!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@carlosdelaarena2575 hello Carlos you are so 100% right cap. In a future video you will see your opinion come to life cap. You hit it on the nail cap., wen you see that video you will remember your comment 😉👍🛥⚓️

[@hookednrolling2009]

Hey Crooked,I think if you trim the motor up you will maybe get porpoising. Moving the motor up might give you cavitation on turns and tight. turns. That’s what happen on my boat. But give it a shot see what happens. Capt to capt wouldn’t give up my etec. But Yours is still better looking. More power to you. JT HOOKED N ROLLING OFFSHORE 🎣

[@OutOnTheReef]

it does a little cap but using the trim tabs it goes away , thanks cap for sharing your experience 👍

[@jasonbeaudoin8359]

Look into turning point propeller I run a 4 blade 14.5 by 17 it has two different blade geometry. My boat is a 23 Steiger Craft I have a 2024 bf 250 Honda. I cruise at 4450 @ 34mph Ang burn 8.9 gps. 3.1 mpg top speed is 44.5 @ 6050 rpms. I tried six different props the cupping and rake make huge difference in how the props perform I didn’t have any luck with power tech props or the solas.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@jasonbeaudoin8359 Thank you captain and definitely I were looking to that brand👍⚓️

[@fredbrad]

Must be working good with that high 👍🏻

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@fredbrad Yes captain I feel a huge difference

[@HKNguyen-jv5vd]

Just curious on where did you get the skill set to tackle all of your projects? Its impressive!

[@OutOnTheReef]

lol cap i just try to make it happen cap, thanks 😁👍 capitan

[@HKNguyen-jv5vd]

@OutOnTheReef Even more impressive since you don't have previous experience and the quality of your workmanship is excellent.

[@denniskim7368]

Wow! I honestly didn’t think that was going to be possible. Congratulations! What do you recommend for my Parker 2530 ext? Running twin Yamaha 200 4 cylinder, Yamaha reliance prop 3 blade. I forgot the diameter and pitch, will get back to you with that info. 4300 rpm / 1.4 mpg I really badly want more mpg

[@OutOnTheReef]

@denniskim7368 yes cap. You look like you need more diameter and on the next propeller video you will be more impressed, later let me know your pitch cap👍🛥⚓️

[@bigk7788]

Might just be the audio but it seemed like the engine sounded different with the 4 blade prop. Seemed like the 3 blade rev up quickly without picking up speed guess that's what you meant by slipping.

[@OutOnTheReef]

yes cap it was slipping but that will be the thing of the past , im looking for the perfect prop now cap, thanks for watching cap.

[@jeffreypinder9398]

"More meat (blade area) moving the weight" is a WIN. Hero sandwich, ditch the ketchup and add Mayo and Relish. There is a "Science" to everything, you just have to do the "Trial and Error".

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@jeffreypinder9398 Yes, captain.That's exactly what I was thinking.I need to go bigger diameter

[@jpearson1725]

I think you are really close on the prop, I think lifting the motor was a good call Cap. I would think a 15 diameter would be the right call, and great call keeping the boat loaded to see where you are. If the 15 diameter and a 15pitch can maintain a top RPM of 5700-5800 loaded I think you are about where you need to be. The 2.4mpg should not move much maybe 2.5+ mpg with slightly larger diameter but you may have to drop pitch if you feel like the motor is bogging/loading up

[@OutOnTheReef]

great suggestion cap it all makes sense bigger diameter is the route to go, thanks for sharing your info cap.

[@marshmellow3110]

I need to raise my engines a hole or two I believe as well. She wants to porpoise when I don’t have a couple people riding in front of the console. Is 2.4 the best you’ve seen? I have twin 200 zukes on my 26 twin vee CC and it will get 2.3-2.4 at 35mph w 5 people and almost 1000 pounds of gear, ice, fish. Obviously they aren’t having to work as hard as your single Yam, but would hope you could get closer to 3mpg. Always impressed at how much you have put into and on your boat. Keep it rolling Capt!

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@marshmellow3110 Thank you for sharing the information, captain.It really helps and I think I need another propeller that is a better diameter.I will keep you posted on future new propeller captain thank you for watching and see you in the water

[@richardjohnson33755]

Gotta say 5200 is the better choice below the water line. And I’m not surprised that 4 blade did better. Ton of weight on that boat. I think bigger diameter and pitch on four blade is what need. Won’t increase top speed but your midrange and to plain will be much better

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@richardjohnson33755 All grey suggestions captain thank you for your information👍😉⚓️☕️

[@scottyk8017]

Great video! Have you solved the trolling motor issue yet?

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@scottyk8017 Yes, yes, and there's videos coming up soon.Captain I just haven't had the time to do the video , You will like it.It will be a surprise to you

[@lengadaleta5051]

Glad to see you took part of my suggestions on your last video and went to the 4 blade. But in order to further increase fuel efficiency you still need to go to a higher pitch. That 15” pitch 4 blade is better than what you had, but if you go up to a 19 or 20” pitch you will get maximum efficiency and maximum range…. That’s what you want, right?

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@lengadaleta5051 Yes, captain, but I have talked to experts.And then tell me that my gear ratio and my engine fifteen pitch is what is called for

[@lengadaleta5051]

@@OutOnTheReef maybe “the experts” you spoke to did not understand the way you want to set up your boat is for MAXIMUM RANGE when visit the Islands. You don’t really care about top speed or low speed handling or hole shot or stern lift or bow lift…all those other factors are secondary. You want to run as FAR as you possibly can on EACH gallon of fuel at a comfortable cruising speed of around 4000 rpm. A higher pitch prop will allow you to do that. It will give you more forward motion for each revolution of the prop, which will give you more range at the same rpm.

[@claudekim7876]

u should get a transom jackplates

[@OutOnTheReef]

@claudekim7876 thanks cap. I will keep doing research on that

[@rafaelmontane7693]

bro i love the generator , what brand of generator is it ?

[@OutOnTheReef]

thanks cap is a westinghouse 2800 thanks for watching

[@fishydubsfishing6516]

A 4 blade prop is for hole shot heavy loads three blade prop is for speed so now you have to check I would check the gear ratio on that outdrive To the pitch on the props I would say there's a difference between the 150 Hp and 225 hp as far as ratio but without seeing it yes it's only a guess

[@OutOnTheReef]

hello cap my 225 is 1.75 ratio so i think 15 pitch is what i need , what you think?

[@fishydubsfishing6516]

I don't know what the Pitch is now increasing pitch is going to decrease our rpm I think the last test you done you were under 6000 RPM so more pitch less RPM I don't think your trimming the outboard when you're running yet you have the outboard all the way in I don't think that's the way to run it you have to trim it Up and watch your RPM and speed and your fuel burn as your trim it up the boat should go faster because you're going to be planing better and fuel consumption should go down the problem that makes it more complicated is the weight you got on that boat I would get on very calm water and start trimming the outboard up you'll know when you go to far Plus you like to run fast i usually run my boat 28 to 32 RPM that gives me the best fuel burn at about 26 Miles per hour

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@fishydubsfishing6516 Yes, me too, captain, I like to run my Boat.The most efficient on cruising speeds, especially for long navigation and yes on a future video.I'm gonna make you'll see me doing that captain.Thank you for your suggestion and your help

[@jeffreypinder9398]

Get some nitrile gloves, Captain. It will save your hands and skin from the alcohol drying them. Lake "White Caps? The CPH can handle them no problem". The second prop could have had a "spun" bushing, really difficult to trouble shoot. Been there, done that.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@jeffreypinder9398 Thank you. Captain and I will inspect that Also, thank you about the gloves.It makes sense👍😉

[@gotstars]

are you testing with full tanks and loaded

[@OutOnTheReef]

yes cap fully loaded for sure

[@jayd1008]

looks like the yamaha prop gave better hole shot .. but you would know best capt

[@OutOnTheReef]

i felt the yamaha prop spinning loosing grip cap , now im in search of the perfect prop thanks for watching cap.

[@terryeytcheson1455]

I think being your test was in fresh water, when you get to salt water, you might have found the fuel mileage you want.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@terryeytcheson1455 you think the salt water will have a difference like more mpg?

[@terryeytcheson1455]

@OutOnTheReef my understanding is the buoyancy of the boat changes. If you have less draft in saltwater, in theory, you should have better performance? I like the comment that explained the science behind the pitch, he sounded like the one to listen too.. can't wait to see what you come up with. Nav safe cap

[@OutOnTheReef]

@terryeytcheson1455 Thank you, captain.Appreciate your comment and I will bring you a solution hopefully soon and if I can increase the mpg cap. Navigate safe

[@sd-pv6it]

the questions i have if that is a lake is it freshwater or salt water. Salt water has a higher density than water then fresh water.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@sd-pv6it Yes it does captain but it's not a whole lot of difference

[@colleendaloisio4900]

🙂

[@OutOnTheReef]

👍😊

[@augustomartinez9253]

👍👍👍

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@augustomartinez9253 😉👍⚓️

[@MrGuillecuba]

the key is to reach 6000~6200 rpm then you know that you have the right propeller and weight ratio for your boat

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@MrGuillecuba Thank you, captain.I really appreciate your help

[@richardknott2021]

Just out of curiosity,could a power jack plate work on your craft.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@richardknott2021 yes it would cap but I'm thinking another prop could help👍

[@SRT8DEMONGUY]

I feel your pain, I repowered my boat and the eternal search for the right props stinks!!! What's going on with the MinnKota?

[@OutOnTheReef]

@SRT8DEMONGUY Same here, captain and I've got a solution already and I will bring you a video soon. So you can see how I fix it, captain, you gonna.l Get 😮 surprise

[@splintel0724]

Who says you need screws with 4200! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@splintel0724 lol is very strong but removable 👍🛥⚓️⚙️

[@davidhumphries9182]

👍

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@davidhumphries9182 👍😉

[@larryalster8493]

What is the name of the lake you use to test the boat?

[@OutOnTheReef]

dont know the name cap but is in St Cloud Florida

[@Tom123mike]

Is there only 2 bolts holding the engine?

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@Tom123mike No there's four but that was just temporarily so I can put the tape on👍

[@MrGuillecuba]

try 4 blades 13 3/4 17~19 pitch

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@MrGuillecuba Thank you for your suggestion , captain , I will look into it👍⚓️

[@TrayJones832]

🍻

[@OutOnTheReef]

@TrayJones832 thanks cap 🍻🍺

[@riverakers]

Shoot for 4000 rpm and 25 or 26 mph and you may hit 2.8 mpg.Cap.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@riverakers I did all the speeds , captain , but I never got close to that

[@riverakers]

@@OutOnTheReef What speed and mpg did you get at 4000 rpm with the 4 blade prop?

[@rudyu2767]

That’s what I’m curious about as well that should be a better cruising RPM. 4000rpm will make that motor last forever. If he puts the pitch to 17 or the diameter to 15, he should be pretty close to running 3.0 mpg at 4000rpm.

[@rolandvance6663]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@MrFishgamez]

Wouldn’t testing it in freshwater be a big difference than salt because the buoyancy of salt. I had a skiff a few years ago with a small 50hp motor and it would only get up on plane in salt water,

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@MrFishgamez Yes, it makes a difference, but it's not a lot of difference. What is soon as I tried on salt water?I will let you know if I feel the difference.Captain , thank you for letting me know very interesting

[@duffyreef]

Why is the boat name covered ?

[@OutOnTheReef]

this is a special edition Crooked Pilothouse cap

[@xrpuertorican4472]

What does it taste like? 😂

[@OutOnTheReef]

is apple flavor is very tasty cap.

[@xrpuertorican4472]

@@OutOnTheReef I had to do it.

[@don_senilo3313]

captain, due to the increased buoyancy of salt water you might gain 0.1 gal more in economy.

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@don_senilo3313 L o l captain anything helps🤣👍⚓️

[@don_senilo3313]

@@OutOnTheReef captain I was actually not joking, google salt water density and buoyancy vs Freshwater. In motion over a certain speed the hull glides a bit elevated over the water vs compared to fresh water. But Im happy you took it with a grain of salt. But really run the question by Google and see.

[@rudyu2767]

Hey cap, another great video. You are almost there with a propeller. I think if you go with the four blade at a 15 in diameter or a 17 inch pitch you could be at 4000 RPMs and 3.0mpg. I’m sure of it. Stay safe out there.

[@OutOnTheReef]

Thanks for the tips! cap and my engine could handle that pitch?

[@rudyu2767]

@@OutOnTheReef I believe the engine could hold that, but what I would try on it would be a four blade 15 in diameter by 15 pitch first. That bigger diameter will help you with the top end speed and more efficiency. I agree with you that you should not go over too much pitch because the motor will struggle with all of the extra weight, so the diameter is going to be the key. I would try that 15 inch in diameter and if you can try one that’s a little bigger in diameter then 15 if possible I would do that as well maybe a 15 1/4 ,if you’re not going to change the pitch. But I think you’re getting really close to that Propeller that you need.

[@kochykoo]

Man quit playing around and put you a adjustable jack plate on there. If you put one one with bthe electric motors on it you can raise a d low that up and down so you can get in them shallows waters you like so much. It will give you the best of both worlds and the weight isn't that much

[@SwitchbackXThunter]

Did you even watch the video and hear what he said about his reason for NOT adding a jackplate?

[@kochykoo]

@@SwitchbackXThunter does it really matter... There's many benefits for adding one and having that adjustability to adapt to different surroundings makes his boat more universal for different types of areas he fish's. He's gonna do his thing anyways so it really doesn't matter

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@kochykoo Thank you, captain.That is another option that I have it on my list.Thank you for the suggestion cap

[@kochykoo]

@@OutOnTheReef you know I got you bro. Some people just don't know 😉😉😉

[@OutOnTheReef]

@kochykoo you are awesome cap. Thank you for having my back 👍⚓️

[@gus1537]

wonder if that is why it came with the 4 blade? they muST have done lot's of tests, the Japanese are smart about that stuff. anyway good vid Capt. Dan

[@OutOnTheReef]

@@gus1537 Thank you, captain.And I'm gonna purchase a new propeller and I'll keep you updated on the results if it's better.Thank you for watching