Rakdos Treasures - Budget Precon Upgrade Guide - AFC | The Command Zone 410 | Magic: The Gathering

[@sagegaming7675]

I bought this one, and the biggest add I did was Dream Devourer, from Kaldheim which gives everything in your hand Foretell

[@Flip4Crypt]

I have Dream Devourer in my Kaervek, the Merciless deck, I love it That seems great in this deck with all of the exiling

[@steelghost6492]

wow this is a great idea.. Ya I bought 2 of those when it came out since I really liked the idea/mechanic

[@necrogenesis1981]

Dream Devourer is good in pretty much every black deck, I put it in Lord of Riots so I can dump out a ton of creatures and not have to worry about my hand getting too full or nuked by discard.

[@redsworkshop]

Thank you, you beautiful wizard.

[@AndrewDebo]

I was thinking the same thing! Glad to know it worked well.

[@StevenBryceWroten]

The flying “nope” across the screen was wonderful.

[@thebookscollective8543]

Was literally about to type this 😂👌🏼

[@FlintyAxe]

For those who just want to skip all the filler stuff and stats, skip to 00:36:00 for add in cards

[@Merlijn1994]

But then you would miss the explanation of the cosmic barrier so I have no idea why you would do that

[@88Eoghan]

As much as this channel can be cool, the sheer amount of filler I have to skip through to watch one of their videos is insane. One hour and eleven minutes to talk about 10 changes to a deck. That is absurd. And the content itself doesn't even start until 7:00 in. There aren't even 7 minutes worth of advertisements between tv shows.

[@kirklandsignaturebarbarian3814]

Ty

[@timdornaus]

DJ is always always always a welcome sight. i appreciate the positive vibe and energy he brings

[@TeamCardgaming]

The cool thing about Prosper tome-bound is that it has so much synergy with many different types of mechanics (suspend, rebound, cascade, foretell, etc.). I already have about 40 cards in my deck box and at least 50% have synergy and I will look forward to put in as many of them as possible.

[@WardenLoveless]

You forgot about madness, which exiles before you play them

[@thomaswhite3059]

I've built a Prosper deck, from more or less the ground up, and the list, unfortunately, doesn't feature as many neat exile-y mechanics like Cascade as I'd like. Basically the deck is mostly impulsive draw, with a few foretell cards and Dream Devourer

[@ericr4677]

Adventure is good for this deck too

[@spencerwaters9645]

Love seeing more Jake.

[@legendaryrat]

After I upgraded it, this deck was the most fun i had with a precon.

[@PracticalEminence]

That hullbreacher commercial lol 😂

[@Nailgraizer]

Jake is 100% right. Jeska's Will will climb in price. It fits in practically EVERY deck that includes red. 3MV for ramp AND card draw? Insane. $15 is cheap, this will be double that soon. \

[@Xopher1222]

Yeah, it's super undervalued at the moment

[@caseywellington4761]

I think it's going to become Red's version of Smothering Tithe

[@steelghost6492]

Ya I bought 2 or 3 at $8. I could see it following the same price pattern as smothering tithe... sits around 10-15 then goes to $35

[@Danielsworlds]

It and dockside I think will desperately need a reprint in the next year to keep prices reasonable. Dockside is already getting over $50 and jeskas is climbing near 20 on some retailers.

[@turv2497]

It's already $25 :/

[@haldir1991]

If you want infinite red mana : Rift Elemental + Rousing Refrain (if a player has 7 cards in his hand) Or infinite treasures if prosper is on the battlefield with only 6 cards. And the best and very budget card for this deck : Uba Mask . "If a player would draw a card, that player exiles that card face up instead. Each player may play cards they exiled with Uba Mask this turn. " So good for you and so good againt those players who think they can just draw cards forever. :P

[@Mr_B_251]

I wish y’all would do a follow up video (precon upgrade) a month later because the prices of some of these skyrocketed! Stolen Strategy is now almost $20!! Just in case someone decided later to do the precon upgrade and missed out on some of these cards when they *were* cheap and now aren’t. Just some food for thought :)

[@dahut95]

Lmao. That ad for the magic spoon had some awesome film tech. Made it feel like a 90s commercial.

[@CyberBuster93]

46:41 How softly he said "No, please don't" had me dying xD

[@caseywellington4761]

Valki, God of Lies would be a powerful upgrade for this deck, along with Dream Devourer and Laelia, the Blade Reforged.

[@turbojugend187]

Mayhem Devil would also be nice!

[@taylormatic]

There are also things to take advantage of the treasures like Goldspan Dragon and Revel in Riches

[@taylormatic]

Cunning Rhetoric also isn't a bad card for this deck either.

[@LilBouzy]

I honestly completely forgot about the one good Tibalt until I started doing more research on upgrades for this precon. Immediately went and bought him from an LGS when I figured out how invaluable to the deck he could be. I'm also looking to get Praetor's Grasp, Jeska's Will (already decided before this video), Opposition Agent and Goldspan Dragon

[@taylormatic]

@@LilBouzy I completely forgot about opposition agent

[@jacobsheets2540]

Not even an hour ago I was looking for this video. Thank you guys very much!

[@joshuamelo7618]

New deck name - "Live Long and Prosper" Missed opportunity guys!

[@mufasafalldown8401]

I would call it the "BBEG" deck. Big Bad Evil Guy. The BBEG always has an evil plot he is trying to execute. The classic BBEG is always too eager to reveal their schemes before executing them. Just like this deck. Everyone is going to see the exiled cards coming and likely work to stop it. You'll also be goading everyone to attack eachother and such.

[@Taisuru]

I went with "Planar Pilfering" for mine, since I went in a more theft-theme direction.

[@benmurphy6021]

I and a friend bought two of the pre-cons and I ended up with this one and we had the best 4-hour session of commander ever.

[@Nr4747]

I really appreciate that you guys took our feedback to heart that we wanted the precon upgrades to be budget-friendly ! A lot of us either don't have to several hundred bucks to throw at a new deck idea - or simply don't want to without testing a slightly tuned version of the precon first. Kudos !

[@mercedesplay_more_kof8488]

I think this might be one of the most interesting upgrade guides. I was left with lots to chew on wrt ways to redesign the deck. Jake lived up to his last name and came in like a boss. lol.

[@blanemurray319]

Can't wait to get my hands on this after pulling voidwalker and ragavan from modern horizons 2

[@q2kfallen464]

I am 100% using Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant for this build. Gonna make a chaotic politics deck, or a group hug kind of build. :)

[@riveting276]

Most interesting deck of the bunch, I like the adds

[@johnmichaelbushman]

.......... I did not expect a cereal commercial of all things here. Am suddenly taken back to my pre-school days.

[@JackThrowerofPrinnys]

I love hellish rebuke, not only is it one of the most fun spite plays, it effects all permanents that would deal damage to you, like say purphoros, tims, aristocrats, blasting station type effects. It's a bit more broad then it's made out to be here but it's still very meta dependent and does nothing for things that just kill you outright like aetherflux.

[@reventheeuclid6289]

Its far better in a Karador or Thanatis deck.

[@time_travelling_pirate]

One thing to note about Glimpse of Tomorrow, if it's revealed by Prosper's end-step ability, you can't play it since you can only suspend cards from your hand.

[@Loserooo2]

The Hullbreacher, Better Health commercial was hilarious. Hats off to you guys for that one.

[@AaronShegrud]

I only count 9 out and 10 in... wish they would provide deck lists like they do in Game Knights

[@kendellraestroughter824]

@Owen Rasch take the purse out lol

[@WunDumDorf]

@@kendellraestroughter824 That's exactly what I did. You're welcome DJ!

[@WunDumDorf]

I hope Jake caught it before he played his upgraded 101 card deck on Extra Turns.

[@WunDumDorf]

I looked at his decklist from the Extra Turns episode where he played the deck and it looks like the tenth removal was Lorcan, Warlock Collector

[@MintyMagicMTG]

They mention Bucknard's Everfull Purse as well

[@someepicnerd7821]

I love how the aft set has stuff that gives you an extra bonus for using treasures. It makes treasures specifically good not just the general ramp you get from them

[@sulakkalus]

LOL @ the Hullbreacher ad :) Perfect

[@chrisgallo2236]

A great include for some more damage could be Nadier’s Nightblade. With all those treasure tokens, especially if you cast your Glimpse Of Tomorrow with them on the field it could do some decent damage. On the other side of the coin Reckless Fireweaver could also be in there to deal the damage when the treasures come into play as well.

[@dorsalfin22]

Definitely taking this deck apart and putting some of the new pieces in my Jeleva exile deck!

[@capt.cheesecake6875]

I'm definetively adding Wild-Magic Sorcerer in mine. Exile some some cards with Jeleva, play a powerhouse from exile and then Cascade? That's value

[@thomasstenson7989]

The ad using Hullbreacher was hillarious! Nice!!!

[@Xylak]

I really appreciated the way you guys mentioned Oracle Vault being a kind of cheap sub-in card that you'll want to take out as the deck gets more and more tuned. I think it would be pretty nice if the future precon upgrade guides had a section of the new cards added in to be labelled as "stop-gap cards" or something, for the cards that can work well with the deck but there are bound to be better options out there for.

[@Fearthelettuce]

Red is not a color I play often but man I am so excited about this deck. I love drawing cards, getting value, doing really oddball stuff... That interaction of treasure tokens + Glimpse of Tomorrow seems SO FREAKING COOL.

[@whompcity9003]

So, to be clear... DJ is just a permanent third host now, right? I hope so, he's the best.

[@TalonOfoalain]

Not just a permanent host, he seems to be the Primary host.

[@jeremyjohnson4855]

I really wish it wasnt like that :/

[@MintyMagicMTG]

I'm sure he's great on his own, but he really talks over and interrupts Jake a lot and it bothers me. I know he is a better KZbin host than Jake, but man let Jake talk about the deck for more than 15 seconds

[@3dcre8r]

The fact that they mentioned a Thanas deck makes me happy. Adding that card to my deck

[@Pesola]

Jake is 100% right. tapped 2 mana colorless mana rock, when your commander generates to much more free mana rocks :D Also, I'd add Rage of Haze to the deck over Jeska's Will. It storm comboes with Storm-Kiln Artist. When you have 3 combo counter and you cast Haze and pay the buyback, you will get 4 treasures from the Artist. Infinite artifact ETB and Infinite any colored mana.

[@radikalskippy]

I know it's out of the budget, but Goldspan Dragon was an easy add, along with Dream Devourer, Jeska's Will and Treasure Vault. It is straight up fire.

[@chrismarlow9585]

The magic spoon advert really stole the show! Jimmy can nail that 90s children's advert perfectly too. Hilarious and nostalgic

[@zexal_fighter2767]

As someone who bought the voltron commander deck, I can’t wait to see the upgrades they suggest.

[@justanotherhuman7106]

Can’t wait for the Bant upgrade, that one is my favorite

[@chairborne33]

Same.

[@thutran-le1829]

Same.

[@pixelmossy]

Same.

[@justanotherhuman7106]

Honestly.... Same.

[@RLC.]

Same

[@phineas7423]

I got this deck early from a gamestore and can confirm the concept is epic but it needs to be upgraded to be viable in my playgroup.

[@kristennorth3268]

I love that you guys have added Magic Spoon to your sponsors list. I've heard them on other podcasts but they didn't have the synergy.

[@ShivShrike]

You could add Revel in Riches and just win by playing cards

[@TopLevelJiuJitsu]

Its a good add. If nothing else it will force out removal and board wipes

[@jamesmoore1317]

I won a game with it, that, Xorn and uh that MH2 card that gives you a clue, treasure and food each time you create one of them is INSANE!

[@reventheeuclid6289]

That and Hellkite Tyrant. It is WAAAAY down in cost since I last checked, a big body with flying and trample, AND steals EVERYONE'S ARTIFACTS.

[@asimpletrashgoblin8109]

49:59 Yes. this concept influences so much of my deckbuilding. i'm not even that upset about losing a game. it's when my deck doesnt do the thing. thats the real loss for me

[@buddywahlquist2467]

You can force a Glimpse of Tomorrow by cascading a cheap (1 mana, maybe 2) spell

[@ancientswordrage]

The background at 22:11 creeped me out until I remember it was wasn't a real window

[@tactiCole_]

Chandra, Fire Artisan seems fun in this deck. Helps the exile mechanic and costs under a dollar.

[@thomasjefferson6418]

Chandra torch of defiance isbetter

[@jacobmcclellan7399]

33:42 If you turn the speed to 2x, this is the best cereal commercial ever

[@keibler1elf]

Take it easy on Jake, he did great! The more spike answer is purse out, fly in. But that being said, just acknowledging that for the listener gives them the thought to figure out what they’d like more.

[@jhemp]

LOL this Jeska's will bit aged excellently, I definitely wish I picked more up

[@taa347]

Academy Manufactor seems fun for this. Just all the clues, food, and treasure you can handle

[@akarikahn2835]

This deck looks so fun! I think I am going to get this one! Thanks, guys!

[@BoardGameHype]

Yooooo that Magic Spoon commercial though was SPOT FREAKING ON! WHEN DO WE GET TO WATCH DJ PLAY AGAIN!?

[@leosklein575]

31:25 : "who's doing this?" Me: staring intently at Syr Carah, Apex of Power, sunbirds, ....

[@kevendescoteaux3236]

I got this deck and I love it, I added Nadier's Nightblade in it, since the Treasure token generation is insane, that give a great kick to the damage output.

[@SinNombreProductions]

conspiracy theorist from strixhaven seems like an amazing include if you use enough discard effects, you can discard the cards you plan to play, exile and then play them with conspiracy theorist

[@Skel_cat63]

Could be even better if you go the madness route with this deck

[@michaelmason6735]

These modified decks should be used for game knights!!! It would be interesting to see how they work…

[@samuelvalcourt6834]

They did it last set with an extra turn episode !

[@michaelmason6735]

@@samuelvalcourt6834 just watched it!!! Looks like these decks are no joke!

[@samuelvalcourt6834]

@@michaelmason6735 yeah pretty good upgrade for a lower budget. I've already used one of them against my friends and they where surprised how well it goes with only 10 changes ;)

[@syedzalihafe4556]

Would it be possible to see Ashlen Rose and Ladee Danger do an Upgrade Guide or Set Review? I reckon that would be a wicked and fantastic episode! Love to see them!

[@k9commander]

If I am not mistaking, the upgraded pre-cons are going to be featured in an episode of Extra Turns. The players playing the decks are doing the guides with DJ.

[@therealax6]

Ladee Danger did one of these... I think it was the Gruul one?

[@moongurd20]

I am a bit late to the prosper party but i got lucky and got this deck unopened at a pretty nice price. I am so excited to play this commander! 😁

[@Dantesshadow1991]

Battlebond had a great card called Stolen Strategy its a bit salty but very synergistic with this deck.

[@macurvello]

It's one of their recommendations =)

[@xgxwills2857]

I decided to push the deck to a $300 budget and holy cow this deck is insane. I put some rituals and x spells in there and some cascade effects with more impulse (and my boy Tibalt from Kaldheim). Extremely fun deck and it can generate insane value.

[@daniellappe8313]

That sounds awesome, would you be willing to share your decklist?

[@xgxwills2857]

@@daniellappe8313 Yup! Here’s the list www.moxfield.com/decks/5AeeJoSFHESQFK16r8Rv9Q There’s no Sol ring in the list just because my playgroup doesn’t run sol ring in any decks XD

[@CyberBuster93]

36:07 All I see in my head is Mr. Krabs going MOAR 😂

[@someepicnerd7821]

Sol talisman could be good for this deck too. Suspend 3 does hurt ramp a lot but it’s basically free since you get a treasure from it

[@brax34]

If sol talisman gets exiled you won't be able to suspend it. It can only be used from your hand. For that reason I wouldn't add it to the deck. In my test games I am exiling 2 or 3 cards for every card that I draw, it is going to be a dead card more often then not

[@someepicnerd7821]

@@brax34 yes but casting something with suspend counts as playing it from exile

[@brax34]

@@someepicnerd7821 My point is that it won't be in your hand to suspend. Most likely it will get exiled and you won't be able to cast it or suspend it

[@michaelatkinson88]

Glad you only added one suspend card though, can't cast those if you exile through another effect. I added a couple myself, but gotta be careful with those.

[@MrSeffbasilisk]

I've been sitting on this deck for a while, and actually upgraded it myself last night. Just saw the vid, and I'm on team ebony fly. That purse had to go. I'm more with Xorn and Chandra than ramping up the exile effects. I want one or two cards a turn, beyond that I'm likely blowing cards I'd rather play or have in my hand, and unlike a graveyard effect, I'm not getting them back from exile.

[@specialCharacter21]

Was least intrested in this deck. It's now the one I'm absolutely most excited for.

[@rafaelribeiro1871]

I'd definetly include one or two cards with Foretell since it also synergises with Prosper. My picks would be Poison the Cup and especially Dream Devourer.

[@IAMYETTI25]

Hot damn I never been this early. Been doing research on this all morning

[@asimpletrashgoblin8109]

Vandalblast has some weird flavor with the beholder commander. the lavor text "beauty is in the eye of the exploder" the rat package is also a DND reference (to me). It recommended for Fiend warlocks to convince their DMs to give them a magic item called "Bag of Angry Rats" to make activating a passive they have easier.

[@jongailey85]

This definitely looks like the most interesting deck out of the 4. Love it

[@allenridenour1826]

Foretell, madness, cards that let you exile your opponents cards and play them. This deck has so many ways to be built

[@okanut]

Hats off to whoever wrote that Magic Spoon commercial. 😂

[@silvershadow4297]

I know these cards aren’t budget but I love Dauthi voidboy and opposition agent in this deck

[@ilike2cudance]

never played red in Commander, but DAYMN!! yall making me want to!!!! great video.

[@psy_p]

13:38 "Everyone who is not a warlock is wrong! I WILL CORRECT YOU!!" -Lorcan, maybe;

[@macurvello]

I kind of thought more as a grammar nazi to warlocks only. "You will not disgrace the warlock class! It's 'whom', not 'who'!"

[@Sinfamous81]

I plan on adding Anje and alot of the Madness card's into this deck for sure

[@Thescreamingpizza8030]

You might as well make anje and add prosper to that deck

[@Sinfamous81]

@@Thescreamingpizza8030 I feel his effects warrant Anje in the 99. Once she hits the board it's value town for sure. The rough draft deck I have right now is quite nasty even without her on board. Once she hits, it's even better

[@N1NJ4P1R4T3]

Bucknard's is such a fun card.

[@alexanderforbes1452]

Revel in Riches is 9 bucks, so maybe too much for the upgrade guide, but a good include for this deck, arguably an auto-include.

[@JanklordEmperor]

I love this deck, it's great just right out of the box. I'm planning to add worldgorger dragon and animate dead so I can make infinite mana and use Gonti or Share the Spoils to just steal everyone's decks and at least with Gonti get to play them all

[@Debatra.]

The main problem with Jeska's Will is that it only lets you play the exiled cards until the end of the *current* turn. Try "Light Up the Stage" instead. Same CMC (but can Spectacle for one red), only exiles two cards so you don't have to worry about over-drawing, and gives you until the end of your *next* turn to play them. And it goes for $0.25. And if you really need the extra mana, "Rousing Refrain" does the same thing as JW's other abillity, can Suspend (meaning another card played from exile), and Suspends itself on resolution (meaning it recurs every three turns, thus giving you *even more* Treasures).

[@autofigure00]

another neat thing is madness cards go to and get cast from exile (not tooo great since you have to discard them, but still a neat interaction with the "when you cast a card from exile" cards

[@mattybbg6850]

Love the hullbreaker flavoured ad.

[@TroyGermain]

If the game ends, how do we draw cards?

[@TheeMasterSword]

This deck is fucking SWEET. As a 15 year vet of the game, commander players since 2010 ish and primarily blue player this deck is a REFRESHING take on exactly what was stated at the end of the episode. Draw and ramp on a different axis. Not knowing what you'll flip off the top of anyones deck is enough variance to be interesting, but enough core commander ramp/draw to not feel like I'm playing a lower power deck because I'm not in green or blue. Non repetitive gameplay mixed with enough power to compete in average commander games has me overjoyed to be exploring outside blue and could not recommend the precon any higher. Fifty bucks gets you a legit deck on upgrades and a little more greasing of the wheels makes a complete deck that you'll enjoy close to indefinitely if you lean in to playing stuff from opponents.

[@magnusberge]

I got this deck, ive played with it about 6-7 times, every time ive made a minimum of 20 treasures!

[@verzun8470]

Just to be clear, at 29 min when talking about pontiff of blight, you CANNOT extort one spell multiple times. Only once per extort trigger. If you have a bunch of creatures, then you'd get extort triggers and an opportunity to pay the black equal to the number of creatures you control and thus drain multiple times.

[@varlmorgaine3700]

Like "Dance Makabre" just because its brings one of my kreatures back and most of them have put on battlefield effects. :D

[@onlineuser9228]

Would it be possible going forward on these to move the “price tag” up some so we can see the set icon? I know we can Google the name but it would be nice to see the set. Some videos its there for a spit second. Others its covered whole time. Thanks!

[@therealax6]

For newer cards, I check the bottom left corner, where the set code and the rarity is printed.

[@ryanquinn1257]

Yea google by card number and set abbreviated name in bottom left to guarantee correct printing.

[@jaytarrant]

Prosper can be played turn two with the turn one sol ring. That’s gonna be crazy!

[@lorcanawithluke]

Gotta live the turn 1 jeweled lotus dream

[@frankmart3339]

Here in 2023 getting ready to add mirkwood bats to this deck

[@p1k4nurxp13sr]

When Jake mentioned the gap between a six-mana vs. a seven-mana commander, I immediately thought that his “intangible threshold” so to speak, is higher than my own. Personally, I get a bit dissuaded when I see that a commander is six mana, whereas I am fine with a five-drop in a lot of cases. The biggest example I have here is Tatyova vs. Aesi. While many would think Aesi is the superior commander, I am much more likely to jam a t3 Tatyova with land drops to spare (or none to spare even) than a t3 Aesi, and that makes the entire deck flow much smoother. It’s much easier to go 1-2-4-5, 1-3-5, 1-4-5, or the like than it is to go 1-4-6, etc.

[@buddywahlquist2467]

You guys keep mentioning that goad is better against creature decks, but goad is great against noncreature decks. Disrupt Decorum straight up murders your opponent that has no creatures to block...

[@lorcanawithluke]

Goad isn't great against decks that have plenty of non combat damage win cons. They still have creatures on board most of the time, but preventing them from attacking you just won't be doing as much.

[@buddywahlquist2467]

@@lorcanawithluke you are downplaying the biggest part of goad. Those creatures will be attacking your opponents.

[@gordonross3270]

@@buddywahlquist2467 and if you disrupt decorum with everyone having 3 or 4 utility creatures, your opponents can easily say "hey, he's trying to mess up our games, let's do blocks in ways that nothing dies, I'm willing to take 5, and we all target him.

[@lordgriselbrand4600]

this deck looks really fun. great value in rakdos!

[@Ryne91]

Kind of surprised Kalain or Revel in Riches didn't make the upgrade. Getting extra value off the treasure tokens would be great. Jake was definitely right to cut the fly though.

[@zizthesin]

suspend cards are excellent too. cast an early suspend or two and cast your commander the turn before they start going off

[@GenX-Man]

Yeah, but don't get caught with a suspend card with no casting cost getting exiled off the top of your deck. You'll never be able to cast it, it will be stuck in exile. Like Glimpse of Tomorrow they put in this deck, if it gets exiled with something like Light Up The Stage, it's gone forever.

[@zizthesin]

@@GenX-Man i think it's a fine risk given how easy it is to just stack up castable cards in exile. just don't play too many

[@nickbowers323]

Ebony fly is great. Plus if you put it in the attack harmonicon deck you can make 2 things fly

[@jackdavies6183]

I may be miscounting, but was there 9 cuts and 10 cards to add? 🤔

[@spiderverse4380]

I counted 9 to cut and 11 to add

[@Danielsworlds]

This is easily my favorite deck of the set

[@xamillustration]

In: Stolen Strategy Valakut Exploration Vance's Blasting Cannons Oracle's Vault Laelia, The Blade-Reforged Murderous Rider Storm-Kiln Artist Jeska's Will Birgi, God of Storytelling Glimpse of Tomorrow Out: Fiendlash Ebony Fly Bucknard's Everful Purse Orazca Relic Danse Macarbe Hellish Rebuke Did I miss some cards?

[@avalon487]

Doing the lord's work son

[@xamillustration]

@@avalon487 I just wish they would the list in end so we all know what the exchange is.

[@Soulus101]

I'm putting Isochron Scepter in. It's a very fair deck to put it in, and there's enough 2 mana spells out there to make it worth it. I'm putting Reverberate and Dual Strike in, as well as Plumb the Forbidden, to add to what's there already. Chandra, Fire Artisan finally has a home as well.