RAKE and RAKEBACK on Pokerstars Partypoker and Runitoncepoker

[@MT-jq4fw]

finally someone that really taks about one of the most improtant things in online poker RAKEBACK, all this coaches seems to ignore the fact that rakeback its really really important to make a living from poker these years.

[@dedomfisch]

Would love to heaf your opinion on the GG Network. Like Rake, Transparency and so on. Quite crucial topic in my opinion as the games are pretty soft there.

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

I will consider it, but can't guarantee

[@ignacio5900]

I fucking run bad in gg, I hate this site, and always look like a scam site

[@ignacio5900]

I prety sure than the site have "super users" then I see incredible calls, some hands than never see in other sites...

[@abstract1603]

@@ignacio5900 in which limit you play ?

[@L4poker]

7:22 I have trouble navigating HM3 as well. If you figured it out that would be a really cool video explaining the software

[@charlesdomalewski7817]

Great video! Thank you for the breakdown.

[@malalalalalala]

What do you think about the introduction of Antes at PS Micro zoom tables? I was playing 2nlz but now there is a ante of 1ct which is a SB at this stake. I don't feel confident enough to play higher stakes yet since i think i'd just be burning money but i'm also not sure if i should continue playing in a game where i have to put a Sb into the pot every hand. Not sure what to do.

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

Play on other sites, Unibet and Runitoncepoker both have very small games that if you play poker well you should be able to beat easily at micros NLH. Have you seen my "microstakes fallacy video"? You should be mainly concerned with the improvement on your game if some day you want to win, less with how to "afford NL2/4".

[@malalalalalala]

@@AndreasFroehliPoker Thank you for the answer and I'll check the video out!

[@ds54ds5sd5sd5]

It seems very crazy that we reach Rake Cap often only at stakes NLH/PLO 25 and higher!

[@antikokalis]

What about synopsis/conclusions?

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

Play all sites and decide what's your best option in terms of fun / potential winnings

[@johnnycash-tb3dg]

i play only on stars,cash games and some tourneys.cash games are getting harder to beat,some downswings and bad runs can last more than 2-3 months.sometimes the rakeback on stars is complete joke. party poker GGpoker,and some other sites,also run it once,they don't have a licence here where i'm from. stuck with stars..and those chests,the last ones,i was playing like two weeks non stop,just for the rake back,and one of them had $10 and 1000 coins,and other $5 and 1000 coins. i had one of those chest for a day,and sometimes for day and a half

[@travisbickle0526]

What country are you in?

[@johnnycash-tb3dg]

@@travisbickle0526 i am from Greece

[@BvBCrafty]

The positive thing is that you wont have issues on stars with payout etc. PartyPoker is totally disproportionate when it comes to verification after you want to cash out some money.

[@duckndodger7114]

Does your RIO RB numbers include time you streamed? I am not a big streamer so would party be better in my case?

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

No, there was a month where I was streaming a lot so I got significant streamer RB, but I think RIO RB in itself is high regardless (especially if you play for LB+ Legends Rank). Currently the only issue is that the games at 1/2 on RIO are not always running, so you need to play multiple sites multitabling anyway...

[@jorgovanhees7285]

Hi. What's the best site for rakeback for a sitngo grinder? (May also be another site than the 3 you mentioned in your video) Kind regards!

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

I actually don't know, I've never played that format. RIO is going to include sit and go's soon and RB is probably going to be > 50% for a decent volume. Why not play more MTTs instead?

[@pokerandtravel6946]

How did you get your data in PartyPoker? I thought that they don’t allow HUD.

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

Which data? Leaderboard data has nothing to do with HUDs.

[@pokerandtravel6946]

Maybe I misunderstood. I though that you had access to something like a population analysis.

[@soren8994]

Is the population on Party now stronger compared to the others sites?

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

I think it could be, can't say exactly as I haven't played FF200/500 much

[@simple-gadgets1409]

PP is full of bots

[@pokerandtravel6946]

@@simple-gadgets1409 how do you know?

[@dariomladenovski7047]

great video Andreas, do you think that for zoom players stars is the only place to play since they allow huds and they always have a lot of players, i feel like playing fast forward on party is a disadvantage because you have less information about your opponents, what do you think

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

I think with high volume party will be always better because of leaderboard price, I don't know much about NLH pools, only PLO. HUDs also provide your opponents data, not just you ;)

[@missclik1419]

i d like to see more detailed examples ..like plo50 in stars is 1/3 rake back for caped pots ( and maybe how ?can we know more specifics , maybe w showdons winn.stat or somethin ,) compared w party ..but for plo500 is the same ? so for mid stakes party is improving? .& what about in between .. i m playin low stakes mostly plo50 ..i was breakeven in party after rake back but im crashin in stars ,i thought the reason was the software ..i mean in stars ..having the better replayer and the hand histories issues after ..and in generall the funcionality of the software ..the improvement rate is much bigger in stars ..now im realizin the diference in the cap also.. also hm2 in 1-2 year will be useless w no updates ? & about hm3 .. there r many issues - problems w the software ..id like to see a video or a series of videos for this.. also anuall fee is near and im wonderin what r my options ..how important is hm3 ? what about pokertracker ? is also charging anuall feee for updates ? like hm3 ..maybe theese money or a portion ,wil be better spend on a coachin site ? w some kind of a solver access? theese r some topics which i believe everypokerplayer would like to see ..at least i do

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

Thanks for the comment, but I have a hard time reading it. Could you put the most important 3 points on discord? (link in any video)

[@misclic2408]

@@AndreasFroehliPoker 1} hm3 w so many features missing & so many disfuncionalities & the anuall fee they charge =is almost a robbery and have in mind that this winter they ll stop updating hm2 so in some months- years will be almost uselles{ for anyone like me who pay for it in 2018 = robbed } .. so i d like to see more options for spendin money for software ..like features in poker tracker ..is pt any better? .. & what about solvers and cost per month or year?

[@alexanderbrevik6611]

Pokerstars has the Exclusive Poker Challenge to redeem 5,000 Redemption points, 5 points for $1 rake. Which means $500 rake to complete challenge. The price for the challenge is $400, that's 90% rake back on top of chests... But maybe not for all players all the time. I have the challenge available tho. Its gold if it keeps on coming 😎😎

[@alexanderbrevik6611]

Or am I calculating wrong. I think that is 80% when I redo the math 🥴😇😅

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

Hey, when I got that challenge it came down to exactly 40% RB, probably the same on your end ;)

[@alexanderbrevik6611]

@@AndreasFroehliPoker Well, wish I could put in the print screen from the challenge.. But it seems like 80% RB to me, receiving $400 for paying $500 in rake. In addition they have the chests and now som other strange challenge, where it looks like a bonus of $250 for doing 3 Black chest... I think it looks like they want to keep players who put in volume in the games.... Poor marketing .. Its just some challenges that suddently pop up.. Havent really cared about the challenges, taught it was just Sheit.... But dont kow anymore :D

[@alexanderbrevik6611]

@@AndreasFroehliPoker I stay corrected my 😅 I'm not a math guy. After some research I se that this is 40%RB, if 5points is $1, 50P=$10, 500P=$100 and 5,000P=$1,000 payed in rake! 😄 Wow that's alot of rake!

[@joshkay2718]

Does anyone know if I have to join the partypoker cash game leaderboard or if it will just happen automatically from playing high volume?

[@jamesherdman5943]

Happens automatically

[@haypapa]

so the poker challenge at stars are worth 40%?

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

No, just 1 of them, the "redemption challenge"

[@haypapa]

@@AndreasFroehliPoker i got to make 2000 im at 600. how much rake is that i gotta make? i got 10 days

[@missclik1419]

ty

[@haypapa]

who has it better then?? i cant stand rio splash pot system. what about res star flat 35%

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

splash pot system will be implemented more and more - it helps a lot with cheating and is actually very fair rakeback and incentivizes loose playstyles

[@Metalord874]

I live in a country where we don't get rakeback from any site so stars is really the best option :(

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

That sucks, but I agree with you that without Rakeback, you should pick Pokerstars!

[@Metalord874]

@@AndreasFroehliPoker Our goverment thinks it leads to people play for more than they want. Yeah, think stars the best unless you play micro. Than unibet and our own site swedish games are really good. However on swedish games you can buy in for 200bb on all stakes, rake is only 2,7% and capped at 1 dollar up to 0.2/0.4c. There's usually only action up to 0.2/0.4c but many buys in for 80 dollars (min 16) so it can lead to som crazy pots

[@fawgzlpljjiybouhgwxu7321]

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