RAKE STRUCTURES- Is the rake beatable for microstakes players?

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[@Orest1696]

Hi. Please advise me where it is better to play fast poker on Pokerstars or GG? Nl 5

[@personalpokertrainer]

Close. Rake is similar. Where do you have more rakeback? Do you prefer to play with a HUD or without? At these stakes I recommend HUD- free sites so I recommend GG for rush and cash without being an expert for the NL5 pool.

[@300ghackfesse4]

Thank you for this video! I play on Pokerstars since one year Zoom 2NL,5NL,10NL and 16NL and i am break even with rake bake. (Start with 100 Doller and now i have 200Doller, but i played very high volumen ~ 500.000 Hands) i am not sure if i play the right poker side and i am not sure if i should start playing 25NL because my Bankroll is always between 300 Dollar and 150 Dollar.

[@personalpokertrainer]

To determine the best site, besides rake structure, you also need to take into account the rakeback and how soft the field is. If you want to play fast fold games and have good rakeback on Pokerstars it is fine to just play just there as a micro player. About bankroll management I will likely make a video soon. If you play zoom, unless you can easily reload, even at micros, you should have at least 30- better at least 50 buyins. So with 200 USD NL25 is too high unless you play for fun/ just deposit again.

[@phrog6073]

you should get better, all of the stakes u listed above are def beatatble bc i beat them by 12bb/100 after rake on stars so ye learn, preflop ranges are super duper important so if you just follow them u instantly get free 5bb/100

[@Smokey525]

Brother, GG poker takes an additional Jackpot rake (You find it in PT4). Unless you are a leaderboard grinder, Stars is better for rakeback at the moment.

[@personalpokertrainer]

Yes, I know. This theoretically isn't a problem because in the very long run you are supposed to win it back with the jackpot. Practically, yes it makes the rake higher unless you are very lucky.

[@xl0pate0lx]

Idk if it is too nich but could you do the same for german players? We pay 30% more rake on stars.

[@personalpokertrainer]

Unfortunately there is also a lack of rakeback in Germany. I don’t live there so I might be missing something but the WPN network seems to be the only one that has lowish net rake ( rake - rake back).

[@Slaggerknot]

Which site is best for people who live in shit countries that don't allow rakeback and is it still beatable then?

[@personalpokertrainer]

For every country there is at least a minor site with rakeback available. Which country do you play from?

[@Slaggerknot]

@@personalpokertrainer not in Belgium, it's illegal. It "incentivizes people to gamble"...completely ridiculous

[@personalpokertrainer]

@@Slaggerknot If you still do not have a GG account it is possible to at least get affiliate rakeback there from Belgium. Then there are sites like coin poker that just do not care about these regulations: record.coinpokeraffiliates.com/_vaFTMGO1HKlhg6WO2I1rgWNd7ZgqdRLk/50/ This is my affiliate link for it. I can explain the rakeback details via private msg. Also it should be possible to play on wpn. But yes, regulations in Belgium suck overall.

[@leighnorman2579]

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[@Notorietypulp]

Thanks for the video! How easily do you factor in rewards programs? Ggpoker potentially justifies it's rake with rewards, but those rewards obviously can only contribute to your roll on that site.

[@personalpokertrainer]

Hi! The goal of this video was more to show that across most stakes rake at micros isn't that much hiher than low stakes. If you want to choose which site to play you also need to pay attention to the rewards program! Sometimes 2 sites have the same rake but one site return 0 and the other over 50%. So after looking at the charts in the video deduct the rakeback to compare them. For GG R&C up to 50NL with rewards the rake structure is good. For 100 and 200NL you will find better netrake elsewhere. For regular tables in general, even taking into account GG's promos, but especially above 100NL you find sites with better net rake so the tables at GG need to be softer to justify playing there. However, some might be willing to pay more rake for the good software, the volume or other reasons why they like the site.

[@blairarcher8952]

They under pay their Reward program .eh Crab 40% but they pay 25%