Dutch Model 1871/88 Beaumont Reloading

[@StevenHess]

This helped me identify a rifle that has been in my families possession for at least 90 years. It sat behind a door in my parent's house for decades. It is identical.

[@DerptekofGoochland]

that is a whole hell of a lot of work for someone who's never touched a reloading setup. As cool as the Beaumont is, I think it's gonna have to sit on that rack at cabelas for a while longer lmao.

[@PrebleStreetRecords]

Great video! I’ve had a lot of luck with the Lee .458 405gr cast bullet in my Beaumont, loading with a 45ACP bullet seat and taper crimp die. I’ve used 70gr of FFg in the past, but I think I’ll move to smokeless loads based on 45-70 trapdoor recipes from the old Lyman Cast Reloading book. I’ve bought 43 Beaumont and other brass from LGM on Gunbroker, he does fantastic work making all sorts of esoteric cases.

[@CrashRacknShoot]

Your channel is severly underrated. This is tenacity meeting research in the purest form.

[@GIJeaux1]

I use the Lee 340gr .45 bullet mold and they seem to hit point of aim. I know everyone likes the BP thing but, I prefer mild loads of smokeless. I am on the waiting list for C&H dies. They estimated 2 years. I still have a year to go. I did manage to get some Bertram cases from Huntingtons before they went out of business last September. I have some 32 ga brass shotshells put back to try when I get my die set.

[@rakumprojects]

I wrapped up this video then immediately ordered both 32ga shot shells and the 340gr mold. So there will be a follow up. Hope you can get yours shooting soon

[@GIJeaux1]

​@@rakumprojectsOh, I've been shooting mine using the Bertram cases I bought. I love it. I also have and shoot an 1874 Gras, a 71/84 Mauser, a couple of Swiss Vetterlis and more. As a reloader, I enjoy making this ammo and shooting the old guns. Thank you for your excellent videos and keep them coming.

[@davidfist7801]

Kudos! For most people, that rifle would be a wall hanger. It's awesome that you actually manufactured ammo for it. One thing I would like to see is a video on cleaning these old black powder cartridge rifles after firing them. I've done plenty of it with muzzle loaders, but a cartridge rifle would be a completely different method.

[@christianolivier4612]

I had the same ejector problem (missing one). I eventually made one and it solved the issue of the spent case getting caught on the one under it in the magazine.

[@bobjohnston8316]

My Dutch/Ethiopean Beaumont just arrived from Royal Tiger Imports. Appearance wise, the rifle is a mess. It’s filthy and even had a stalk of straw in the bore. My first concern was the bore, which after some cleaning turned out to be a pleasant surprise. There is some pitting but the rifle should be quite shootable. I plan to take the bolt apart and all other removable parts and get them in the ultrasonic cleaner today or tomorrow. The stock will need lots of fine steel wool and linseed oil. New cases ARE available from Northern Shooters Supply in Australia and I plan to order some. I’m in the US so there’s a six week delay while they get an export permit but I bought .43 Spanish cases from these folks and the cases are really nice and the price was right.

[@rakumprojects]

Sounds like you lucked out with the condition of the rifle. I've seen the cases available in Australia, but never considered ordering them. I'll look into it

[@TheRedneckPreppy]

Ah, a kindred spirit when it comes to jerry-rigging anything at hand to reload an old calibre. Ironically, my last project was trying to figure out brass and resizing for the 8x58mmRD round, one of the sets you used. It was only after CH4D had a short run of those dies that I was able to finally easily produce rounds for my Husqvarna Rolling Block rifle.

[@rakumprojects]

I'd like a Swedish Rolling Block in 8x58r. One day I'll find one

[@TheRedneckPreppy]

@@rakumprojects Up here in Canada we got a pile of them imported some years back. Generally good condition across the board from what I'm told, though mine had some issues.

[@pietvermaat5928]

Great video. I wish I had seen this video when I started reloading this caliber. I have some information from original sources. The case length could vary from 50.5-51.5 mm. Therefore it is better to call the cartridge 11x51R. In 1875 another bullet, the Harsveldt bullet was introduced. Diameter 11.6mm = .457. Weight 25 gram = 385 grains. 5 gram Black powder. Cases can also be bought from Horneber Germany . They can also be formed from .470 NE. I was lucky because someone sold once fired cases!. Or from 32 gauge shotshell. I have Ch4d dies. I am not very satisfied with them because the seating die does not accept a .458 bullet.

[@STMwoodturning]

In my experience, lighter bullets with the same powder charge will likely hit even lower than the heavier ones due to a flatter trajectory. More powder will raise POA some. Glad you were able to get this old, obscure rifle running!

[@thomasozminkowski2589]

Great channel. I have several Beaumonts and they measure .450 across the grooves. You may have even better accuracy if you slug your bore and size your bullets accordingly.

[@zebracherub]

I was impatiently waiting for another video of yours and you delivered. Great job ! You deserve way more recognition and views !

[@mightress]

They are great rifles and shoot very well

[@KargoMaster]

A very nice lunchtime video… Thank you! I especially liked the added few minutes after your out-tro… Just a nice smooth rhythm of shooting a few… Joyful moments.

[@williamspurgeon3803]

you can make them from Magtech 32 gauge Brass Shot gun brass cheeper works real good

[@Almost_Made_It]

This is awesome. Some old school ingenuity. Philip B Sharpe vibes here

[@mtthyw]

Awesome video. This is going to be so helpful in the future.

[@timclark8596]

your turned brass looks like NDFS (North Devon Firearm Supply's) ? NDFS was a great resource back in the 80's

[@WilliamSpurgeon-h5j]

You can use 32gauge brass shot shells match midway midsouth shooters supply

[@rakumprojects]

I ordered some to experiment with. The process of converting them should be the same.

[@WilliamSpurgeon-h5j]

You can get a set of dies from a co called CH4 they make obsolete dies I have got several from them they work

[@ultimategamingtime1515]

I love it!! Beautiful piece of engineering out of Maastricht!!

[@rre9121]

Awesome gun, great work!

[@rider4440]

1. that is an amazing reload, very well done, would you do something similar for the Berdan 2? 2. that FAL on the table when you're shooting the reformed brass is amazing!

[@rakumprojects]

Of course. I would like a Berdan II one day. A gun show I went to once had a Berdan I on display, those are cool guns as well but way too much for my collection. The FAL is a Brazilian kit build

[@Toolness1]

Awesome vid, can you tell be the brand of that mini chop saw? Ive been wanting one but so many have terrible reviews and Im not sure which one to get.

[@rakumprojects]

It's the basic Drill Master from Harbor Freight. It seems to work ok as long as you're not expected very precise results.

[@Toolness1]

@@rakumprojects Thanks, I need it for converting .303 Brit to 6.5 Dutch rimmed. The shoulder bumping step leaves you with a good bit to trim and I've been taking a hacksaw to it which is a pain.

[@rakumprojects]

@@Toolness1 It would work well for that. I do the same for my 30-06 conversions. Then use a Lee trimmer to clean it up and bring it to final length

[@Toolness1]

@@rakumprojectsI have done 30-06 to 7.7 Japanese and it'll be good for that. I found one on Amazon and ordered it. My local store didn't have any and the HF website says "in store only"

[@GIJeaux1]

Woo Hoo! I just scored a set of C&H 11.35x52r Beaumont dies. Now I can cancel my back ordered ones.

[@rakumprojects]

Nice find! Where did you get them?

[@GIJeaux1]

@@rakumprojects Ebay. I was checking 3 times a day for months now and, it finally paid off.

[@GIJeaux1]

@@rakumprojects I got them on e b a y .

[@pietvermaat5928]

@@rakumprojectsI have CH4D dies. The seating die is too small. You can't seat .458 bullets with them.

[@rakumprojects]

@@pietvermaat5928 What bullet diameter do you use? Or do you use another die to expand it a bit more?

[@Kbrusky15]

you're an artist. :)

[@cordelllush8133]

can you do a video on the 8x58 danish?

[@rakumprojects]

Yes, I have one coming soon

[@cordelllush8133]

@@rakumprojectsnice! cant wait to see!

[@Daveszka1997]

Can you the reactive p08 luger back to be active? In next video?

[@Slavking374]

I have a question, if I sent you my Winchester mod fifty could you fix the fore stock or make a video on fixing a fore stock?

[@rakumprojects]

Sorry, but I have a back log of my own projects to get through

[@Slavking374]

@@rakumprojects it’s alright man if you could make a fore stock repair or making video that’d be incredible but you do what you gotta do and I love your content I already subbed keep up the good work.

[@slowguy66]

I would like to figure out how to make French 11x59mmr brass

[@rakumprojects]

I've been looking for a Gras for a while now. Would like one that hasn't been to Ethiopia

[@slowguy66]

@@rakumprojects there has been some on gunbroker. I got the proteus armaments 410 chamber adapter and honed it out to fit 45 colt and that’s what I’ve been using shoots great.

[@WilliamSpurgeon-h5j]

you can buy a die set from CH-4 for that cal.

[@dallas1179]

Just curious, wouldn’t it have been easier to just fire form the cases and then figure out the proper neck diameter to seat the bullets after?

[@rakumprojects]

The cases needed to be sized down to fit in the chamber. Fire forming is used when cases are already small enough to fit and need to be expanded.

[@dallas1179]

Yeah. as soon as i pressed send i was like duh, those straight cases wont fit in the chamber. I’m too used to forming 7.62x54 to 8-50r lol.

[@williamspurgeon3803]

you can get a Beaumont die set from CH4D die makers

[@wagon9082]

Good video

[@blakestanbery2385]

Just smoking out the range it’s beautiful

[@johnjamieson6368]

Next step is to make some chargers for loading the magazine. :)

[@Tammy-un3ql]

Wow!

[@WilliamSpurgeon-h5j]

you can make these from 32 gauge shotgun brass real easy

[@1885win]

45 long colt never existed. It was always 45 colt.

[@Vo_d_kontra_o_norMAL]

The rifle have the barrel inside shape matching with the ammo shape ? If not, do you tryed yet to make a extra long cartridge with substantialy more powder than the normal lenghts For turn this rifle into a african hunt kind of rifle ? This is co0l when i finaly build my own rifle thr first thing i always imagine that i goin to do is to make my rifle a super caliber kind of rifle and at same time shot regular short normal power ammo

[@rakumprojects]

The chamber could be reamed to fit a longer cartridge but then you could be exceeding the pressure the action is designed to handle.

[@Vo_d_kontra_o_norMAL]

@@rakumprojects do you understand about materials ? I need to known for example what special kind of Stell is made a 50 BMG - or a 700 nitro express

[@rakumprojects]

@@Vo_d_kontra_o_norMAL it's not just the metallurgy, it's also how the action locks. The way the Beaumont locks with just one locking lug at the midpoint of the bolt isn't sufficient for mostly smokeless powder cartridges.