ralfy review 921 - When packaging goes wrong.

[@Mrjpcosta]

“Downsize this completely impractical over-the-top unnecessary totally unwanted packaging” BRILLIANT RALFY +1

[@Brad-ic4bp]

I appreciate a good, solid, cardboard tube, because that's how I store my Scotch bottles on my mini-bar. Reason being is that my mini-bar receives a laser-beam of direct sunlight in the later afternoon. The exceptions are my Glenfarclas bottles, which are dark tinted glass. Eventually, I'll buy a proper liquor cabinet with doors.

[@IainBruce83]

Great recycling techniques Ralfy, stamping out the unsustainable packaging.

[@bradmartin7409]

I’ve never heard a more angry rant over a box in all my days, love ya Ralfy

[@johnnybear9400]

A great one this Ralfy. Glengoyne WAS my favourite distillery until about two years ago when they completely lost the plot with their marketing and prices, it was in the lead up to their rebranding exercise.

[@WhooshFlyingHorse444]

Watched this Vblog again Ralfy! Brilliant and well put over. Best line from you was..."BURN IT"! Reminded me of Mel Gibson's famous line as William Wallace in Braveheart! Please keep up your most valued insights in educating us all about whisky. Slainte.

[@RABSTRAINS]

Totally True! Love your points and presentation! Don’t ever change!

[@WhiskyMystery]

Haha Box abuse at the end is exactly what I was doing earlier.

[@johannessauer3758]

I got a bottle of Ardnamurchan for my last birthday in January and it still stands there in the box and graces our living room on the mantelpiece. So beautiful with the printed map on it. No other whisky bottle in my collection would ever been allowed to stand there...

[@Peter_Box]

The last two Springbanks that I bought, a 10 YO and a 12 YO CS had no box. I like that they've gone from a minimal box to none at all. James Eadie is boxless, and I see that you can opt out of getting a box at Nc'Nean distillery's shop and save £2. The extra packaging of boxes and tins is not necessary...in my opinion.

[@CPW1991]

Peter Box talking about boxes, must know his stuff.

[@murrayr2]

My glass front whisky cabinets get some direct sunlight. Packaging prevents damage to the product.

[@waynemontpetit8181]

@@CPW1991 🤣🤣

[@danjames5552]

@@murrayr2 just make some reusable sleeves out of something like velvet!!!!!

[@whiskypete8346]

@@danjames5552 Aye mate ah'll dae that...or jist cut up ma silk sheets and make sleeves oot ay thum. Nae bother 👍

[@machpe]

Hey Ralfy, just wanted to drop a comment of appreciation, been watching since early 2013 and while I don't often drink whisky I love listening to such a well-spoken expert talk about something he's passionate about. Cheers!

[@scoobtoober2975]

The traditional round holders with metal lids are very useful. Weee little ones use them all the time

[@EdoHannema-Watercolour-Art]

I always Like the tube packaging for whisky.

[@robfut9954]

Agreed, holds up well and protects against light.

[@maxwong6222]

The 18 used to come in the same type of cylindrical tin for the 10 and 12.

[@Darth-Vater]

Absolutely on your side. I see a lot of highly priced bottlings like especially Glenmorangie with their Signet doing way bigger than they need to be. They care more about the shiny box than about the content of the bottle. Which results in boxes too big for my shelves which are fitted for standard sizes. A tube is perfectly fine.

[@steven4570]

Don’t mind the box for the signet. It’s a high end unique whisky that deserves more than a cheap flimsy cardboard box.

[@jonison6847]

Thanks Ralfy, that put a smile on my face. That box is borderline ridiculous, but I do like a half-decent box generally, as I tend to keep individual bottles for several or even many years, so it helps to keep the sunlight off and protect against breakages. Good on Glengoyne for the otherwise solid eco-credentials. Cheers!

[@whiskystreet3884]

Thank you Ralfy....this is in fact one of the most important problems to bring to discussion...more and more we live in a society that survives on selling an "idea" selling an "image"...and it works for the most distracted, less focused people out there...Cheers my friend

[@rangamurali7667]

Very considered opinion, much more than that, v valuable advice, Ralfi you said it so down to earth what gentlemen, maltmate customers caring for their pockets as much as taste and quality really care! Smashing!!

[@eddudyak2595]

I don't like boxes, but I like tube packagings, like Glendronach, or Aultmore. Really like how they are looking on the shelf.

[@paulm749]

Well said, Ralfy! Such elaborate packaging is a total waste of cost and materials.

[@jeffmill999]

I was so lucky to be celebrating my school winning a big game that I broke out the better stuff on my shelf...Rock Oyster, Billy Walker GD18-2016 and I just nosed my treasured AnCnoc 22 as the video concluded. I liked that pasta in the tin idea...I have many tins and putting them to good use in my kitchen is a great idea..thanks Ralfy. My Signet sure has an over fancy box...I love the bottle and the stopper that would stop an intruder in their tracks. This box was too big and not conducive to putting on the shelf next to other bottles...it takes up too much space.. Looking forward to the Clynelish 14 video.. I can get older bottled for a very good price here in Cambodia..I have several bottles and two different labels...I sure love it. Cheers Malt Mates. Sorry ..kind of buzzed and KU winning was huge for this boy from Kansas...

[@onYTsince2008]

So well said Ralfy: if GlenGoyne made it all its whiskies a minimum of 46% (from 43%) and non chill-filtered, it would be a bloody damn good whisky!

[@mrnosebear7406]

I really enjoyed your rant and you are totally right. I was laughing out loud when you were jumping on the packging. Excellent stunt. Cheers from Germany

[@jtf2dan]

I bought a bottle of Glengoyne 18 year old about 6 years ago....didnt even have a box on the shelf at the LCBO. Think they came in a round cardboard tube back then.

[@KMMHL2012]

You're entirely right Ralfy. The problem in my perspective is, the brands need to stand out on the shelf, not for people who know about whisky, but rather for the uninformed buyers, who rely on the visual appeal of the box and the fancy marketing department wording to attract buyers. I would buy a Glengoyne 18 if it was stuffed in a sock and put on a shelf in a dark corner. The occasional buyers would look at that and associate it with a lack of quality. We've seen this throughout the industry, fancy marketing wording, E150, packaging, etc... just to give the indication of quality vs. the actual quality of the spirit.

[@MurrayCohenbluesandwhisky]

Packaging has almost become commercially more important to the powers at be than what is inside for many products including whisky and oversized packaging in particular has become fashionable to big industry think tanks. I remember meeting the famous Canadian philosopher Marshall McLuhan in the 1970's during my University years in Montreal and his iconic The Medium Is the Massage. This relates directly to how advertising particularly appealing to the "sensorium" positively affects sales and interest in a product. I'm for what's on the inside of the box.

[@Whiskey_BS]

Ralfy, great review, an instant classic! I was thinking at the beginning of this video that you should stomp the box, and you did! I agree completely with your opinion that we consumers don’t need or want the fancy box. We buy the whisky to open and drink. The box gets “tossed”. I recycle the paper product boxes, but I wonder how many boxes end up in the landfill. Such a waste. Keep these reviews and extras coming.

[@jackdeedman5344]

Don't always agree with you Ralfy but on this occasion I couldn't agree more. Pretentious packaging gives me the impression its likely a Whiskey full of fluff. I pass it by. CONCENTRATE ON THE SMELL AND TASTE and it will sell itself. Thanks Ralfy; lets hope they listen! All of those who are guilty!

[@WhiskeyNovice]

Couldn't agree more Ralfy. I find it nonsense that some big, online retailers (who's name's I won't mention) wrap your bottle in bubble wrap (fair enough), then put it into a box along with the broken down packaging that it came in from the distillery. I don't want/need that packaging. I underatand that it's designed to be eye-catching and built to be "protective" for the bottle but...if these retailers don't feel it's necessary for their transit...then why is it necessary at all? As you said...put the money into tbe presentation! And I don"t mean how the packaging "reflects the sheer intrinsic quality (or some such crap)" of the bottling!!

[@pinkwaferlover]

I agree except in the case of gifts. For example you can buy a bottle of Arran 10 as a gift pack with 2 glasses. I received it as you described and I was able to assemble it for perfect presentation. I'd buy direct if I could save money and didn't want the presentation packaging.

[@charliemitton6855]

Exactly this. I bought two bottles of Tamdhu from John Lewis, and it came in a HUGE box with layers and layers of bubble wrap. The box was big enough for 18 bottles. 18!!! And it took me 25 minutes to break down all the bubble wrap that would have completely filled the wheelie-bin. It was so over the top it was almost a joke. Made me pretty mad too. Never ever ordering from John Lewis online again.

[@johnvandeswaluw2895]

I’ll buy Glengoyne again when they present their whisky naturally; 46%, natural colour and non chill filtered. Oh, the distillery tour was great, indeed! Prices at the distillery shop not so much. So yeah, thanks Glengoyne and good luck.

[@steven4570]

If you can find the teapot dram though, highly suggest that one.

[@alimack42]

Hi Ralfy, if you go online there seems to be some retailers are suppling it with the big box. Some are supplying it with a Carton tube

[@djsaunter]

I can get Old Forrester 1920 for a couple dollars cheaper than Booker's Bourbon. both are decent value, and excellent bourbons, but I generally choose OF because I don't have the box of wood ànd plastic to dispose of afterwards. Do I just toss it in the trash? It isn't recycleble. Stove kindling? Less boxes, more tasty affordable whiskies. But people do see value in packaging, and I know some people like the theatre of a fancy box, so I'm glad to hear you continuing to support distilleries like Spring Bank that spend less on marketing/packaging, and more on community and integrity statement bottlings. Love your 'rants' Ralfy, you'll get no arguments from me.

[@dlucian8636]

Just recently figured out that I can use the empty bottles for storing condiments and it looks kinda cool too. The boxes are pretty useless I think (later edit: not useless because probably the point is to keep the whisky away from light), not much use except for storing socks maybe. (joking) I seen someone cut the round ones short and make smaller containers. About the Ardbeg warehouse box, I have one and always wondered why the G is a different font from the rest. Maybe production mistake. They should've just used the font from the label in my opinion. I like good packaging design. I like what Bruichladdie is doing with their box/label/bottle design. I have 3 Arran boxes side by side atm and the height of the graphic elements are different on all of them. It's not a big deal, but it's also something you can easily fix. Hampden rum is my favorite bottle/box design to date.

[@peatbull3426]

Welcome to the Ralfy's Recycling Centre. Good job. Well done. 👍

[@NevilleBadger]

By having an unnecessarily oversize box it decreases the number of bottles that can be transported on a pallet/delivery truck therefore meaning increased transport costs and emissions 🙃

[@toolthoughts]

I like some packaging for protection. I don't mind a naked bottle, a slight preference. And if we're honest, if it's a present, it is added value. A cardboard tube protects the bottle nicely and is the minimum amount of material since it's roughly bottle shaped. Or just wrap it in paper like Osmin's Apothicaire armagnac. That would stand out if you're the first to do it.

[@beloved_lover]

I first didn't mind the fancy packaging, but after having few way too fancy ones with some 21 year olds, I'm pretty much done. Just give me basic cardboard tube, at least I know what to do with those.

[@thewhiskybothy]

. . . and you're not paying a lot of money for junk containers.

[@markwebster8743]

100 % agree with what your saying. The old tube was good enough. Another 3 % abv and this would be perfect.

[@kareliask]

I agree that it is important to note that regardless of whether it's recycled or not, these oversized pretentious boxes still require energy and cause waste in their production. The "made from recycled" claim is often used by companies to 'greenwash' their reputations despite them doing more for the environment if they just don't do the problematic thing in the first place. I agree with the others that Springbank's bargain basement super thin boxes are all you need, although I do find they can become a little too 'efficient' - the Bladnoch 10 box I had could never contain the weight of such a heavy bottle! I also agree that Glengoyne, amongst supermarket malt brands above all, is screaming out for full craft presentation. It's a small distillery so can manage its stock much more effectively in this way.

[@Palmetto_Traveler]

I was watching some of your Bottled In Bond videos. You might want to look for a bottle of Early Times Bottled In Bond Bourbon. The brand is owned by Sazerac. The Early Times is a easy drinker for a BIB & is fairly priced around $25 USD on the shelf & $50 USD on auction. Cheers !

[@Nine-Signs]

4:57 this sound effect perfectly encapsulates Ralphie's opinion of the packaging. It is a grand advertisement for how to waste materials and overcomplicate a simple matter.

[@budj13]

Once again, I agree 100%. This distillery makes wonderful whisky, but it tends to be expensive because they are wasting money on packaging.

[@rafaecheverri8396]

This type of packaging is an approach to the luxury market, a huge box which stand out the shelves with golden printing and stuff. But anyway even if your product is not made for the malt taster you can't say that you're going greener using twice the materials, 100% agree Ralfy.

[@pinanti]

Madness. The next step will be LED lights on the box ? When I saw you destroying the box , I couldn't stop laughing 🤣

[@Malt454]

I don't know - in most cases now, if as much thought and care went into the whisky as went into the packaging, whisky would be in much better shape. It's the expertise of the packaging and marketing people which has allowed the performance of whisky producers to slip, not the other way around. Is the "over packaging" a distraction? Sure, but the real question is why is it seen as a necessary distraction? It's true, we can talk about how some overpackaging isn't helping the planet or saving the whales (yet many other things also fail to do that), but I have to say that the packaging people often DO accomplish their jobs well, at least in this respect: they encourage, rather than discourage, consumers to buy the product in question at the prices being asked. If the people actually making the whisky did THEIR jobs half as well today in that respect, I'd have far less to complain about as a customer. Sure, packaging could absolutely be better, but it ISN'T the place I would start in reforming the whisky industry. Am I overpaying on packaging? Sure, but it's the least of my value worries in whisky these days. Given recent trends, I have very little faith that the corners cut on ANY aspect of whisky production today is being passed on to me in the form of lower prices or better products, or ever will. Something else we need is a video clarifying exactly what the role of the SWA is, and isn't, in the world of scotch whisky (and beyond).

[@Paul-zp5do]

I hate the boxes, first thing is to through it all away and put the bottle in my cabinet.

[@Malt454]

@@Paul-zp5do- Thanks for the response and, fair enough - packaging IS a case of style over substance. My point about it was that the packaging people are doing their jobs in a way that, for the most part, the production people aren't doing, or aren't being allowed TO do, theirs. Sláinte!

[@Nine-Signs]

Hello Ralphy and all. I like whisky but as a peasant :) my experiences are limited, though I am trying to expand them. I was put off whisky for 15 years as when I was 18 I tried Jack Daniels and not being a big drinker ever I hated the stuff and never went near "whisky" again and stuck to what I knew which was Aspells cider from the tap at the local ye olde pub. Which is a curious drink that works from the feet upwards over the course of about 3 pints. In any case, an old friend dragged a bottle out 3 years ago on new years eve, of "monkey fist" and a couple of what I thought at the time were comedically oversized globular glasses, in any case I expected to hate it but it was wildly different and delicious. Then I found the next I tried of a different brand was wildly different to that. Then I discovered that the brands themselves subtly change with each batch as well and as you can see we are off to the races as I finally found an alcohol that I can drink with some frequency because I actually enjoy it. I don't drink to get drunk, never have though in company a little wobbly never hurt :) and oddly I have quite a high tolerance and a pristine liver so its been a perfect match for me coming up to 40 lol. I've narrowed what flavor's I like and don't by trying all the usuals from the shop shelf over the last 36 months. I found my favorite blended regular tipple so far is White and McKay, and I found a single malt I could afford that was very pleasant, I expected it to be awful given it was from Lidl, their speyside single malt, the light sweet one, red tube,, I've found lighter whisky's tend to be more my preference than dark and old oaky wood with a hint of disinfectant and perfume AKA Bells. I am going to up my game a bit and spend up to £30 on my next and if you or anyone have a suggestion given my preferences for lighter whiskies then I would welcome a point in the right direction. And I am going to save and treat myself to something in the £50 to £70 range for my 40th birthday in May if any have ideas :o) Also, on that packaging, to me as just a regular guy with yeah a tiny bit more knowledge than avg but certainly not enough, that packaging simply says to me "I am not for you, only for the middle classes" and I would not even look twice unless it had an X % OFF sticker slapped on it, as the fancy box would instantly say I am going to be paying a healthy price where as if it were just the bottle on the shelf well I would have paid more attention to it and who knows maybe sprang for it in such a situation regardless of offers. I am a working class person as are the majority of the planets population, and to me the box is pretentious incarnate. Many thanks for your time and wisdom all.

[@rafarutka4823]

This Ralfy's opinion correspondence to the earliest opinion about price of the place on the shelf in markets and so on... big package no place for opponents on this same shelf :) Could be some official gift box for each whisky, if you want you are buying only bottle with content, if you need / want to give somebody good whisky with exact proper glass you should have opportunity to choose, this is only my opinion ;)

[@robfut9954]

I think you’re onto the point. Distillers view these whiskies as one or twice in a life gift whiskies. Everything being equal what does it matter “wasting” a bit of paper on what is essentially gift wrapping to make somebody receiving it just a little bit happier. Remember, not everyone understands whisky and presentation matters sometimes. People get too angry over too little, if you can afford $200 on a bottle does $2 extra for packaging actually matter to you?

[@Mikego55]

I really liked the highland fling at the end

[@4468]

All that green messaging and then they take up the space of two standard sized boxed whiskies on the delivery truck = more carbon. How could they not see the contradiction when designing that? You're totally right Ralfy.

[@fredlabosch5164]

The thing is, that this huge box takes up a lot more space on the retail shelf than a usual box or tube, thus the retailer is forced to create more space if he wants to sell this bottle, or remove other bottles. And of course, a big box is simply more eye-catching, it's a pure marketing decision in every way possible.

[@michaelgonzalez347]

I really hope the more you talk about this excess box issue the more distilleries would listen and invest the money spent into the whiskey. Keep at them. Cheers

[@robfut9954]

I’ve bought $16 bottles of olive oil that have ornate bottles. And I’ve bought children’s toys for $20 that came in extremely ornate boxes. Did that add a lot of cost to the product, or was that just marketing dollars that would have been spent on Google ads instead put into packaging? Personally I think it’s money that would have been spent either way and didn’t affect the MSRP hardly at all. The hippie dippie environmental aspect doesn’t bother me frankly. How many expensive bottles will I buy in an entire lifetime? Maybe a dozen? Is that REALLY harming anyone?

[@iainc10]

8:30 Is there not a turbine of some description involved in generating pretty much every source of electricity going, apart from maybe solar (and there's little danger of that in Scotland). Bit like boasting your electricity arrives through cables.

[@gregb8824]

This box is outrageous but my morning cereal also comes in a box and I eat a lot more cereal than I drink whisky. I'm okay with a reasonable/recycleable box.

[@nredman]

Whenever I buy a bottle I look over the box and then recycle it if possible. I’d be fine with no boxes at all or minimal boxes. Tubes are also hard to recycle.

[@jamestickle3070]

‘It fits snuggly but not tightly.’ …….My wife’s chief complaint.

[@Mose2305]

Omg, what an excellent rant Ralfy! But I think I would break my foot trying to crush their mdf box for the Glengoyne 21 lol … and yes I probably should get rid of the box before the resin in the mdf flavors the whiskey.

[@adbl.d6324]

totally beautiful explication of the value of principle. Glengoyne DOES make great whisky, but they ALSO completely undercut their drive to be appreciated as such by falling into to the age-old flannel-lined trap that marketing departments have laid for countless proprietors The great news is it DOESN’T have to be so. The powers that be who actually are responsible for the production of this fine spirit can listen to the type of impassioned (& almost unabashedly fanboy-sque) advice Ralfy is doling out here, change course, and end up in a place we allllll wish to be: a world in which damn fine whisky is both esteemed AND accessible!

[@rescuethecows]

We visited Glengoyne last month, and in fact they will knock off 5% off the price of your bottle if you opt out of the box (that having been said it's very likely that the prices are at least 5% higher at the distillery).

[@thewhiskybothy]

. . .the Distillery shop is very expensive.

[@alyamaut]

Good evening Ralfy, just enjoyed your review of the Glengoyne 18,but frankly I have enjoyed this one better, you are 100,000 % sure about the box, about the whisky First time drinking this dram, and I have enjoyed a lot even is 43 abv, 3 more abv, as you said would be a top notch dram, muchas gracias 🤘

[@gariochsionnach2608]

You are absolutely right Ralfy.

[@Mikego55]

I deal a lot with wood and sawyers whether be sawmill or bandsaw mills. Pretty much if it’s ugly in the bark it will be sweet in the wood. If a log looks pretty it will yield the most boring looking grain.

[@HistoryNiche]

The discovery of the piece of wood within the Glengoyne box is one of the most cringe moments I have experienced drinking Whisky.

[@scoobtoober2975]

Shipping that anywhere, the minute it leaves their door. It's taking 2 times the amount of fuel. Don't mooch the green commitments yet backhands it with the box.

[@timthewhiskynut477]

Another point re: the ABV, they probably kept it at 43% so their distributors and international customers pay less duty per unit, giving higher profit margins at the same price point.

[@thewhiskybothy]

. . . yes.

[@stevengallery5561]

Today I collected a few bottles purchased from a recent online auction and had the very same thoughts! If you think the packaging is wasteful on your Glengoyne then its nothing compared to the Tullibardine 20yr old!!!

[@peterlee2279]

Lose the package and increase the distillery base abv to 46%= a win win situation. Glengoyne is my local distillery and like yourself love visiting the distillery.

[@Bob-ts2tu]

recently bought a bottle of bushmills 16. That box is a big 'un as well, It takes up more space on my whisky shelf than need be and while well made i wonder how much it adds to the price of the juice inside

[@thewhiskybothy]

. . . at least 10%

[@31446963048]

Agree. Nothing sells like quality and being known for quality. I burn my cardboard and work the ash back into the soil

[@carlubambi5541]

wonder how much the box and bottle is worth vs the product inside .How much whiskey per pound of grain can you make ????How much are the casks ????New vs used .. Many products cost much less than the package !

[@HerbertDuckshort]

If companies put as much effort into being actually virtuous instead of merely signalling it the world might be a happier place.

[@ralphwatten2426]

I hope they put the juice in an extra heavy bottle because I can see it bouncing around a little. I don't know why they put whiskey (ky) in boxes anyway. It usually goes in a dark cupboard anyway.

[@ErrHaBe]

Ralphy, always good for a rant. And rightly so. And if the management is adequate, it will listen and adapt. Cheers from Germany and keep up your spirit. Ralf

[@martinbeen]

I liked the other Glengoyne style more. But is must say, Glengoyne whisky is, for me, one of the nicest colors in whisky.

[@billyp8675]

Ya that's a bit of a box. I'm big on the tubes It's nice to bang around the back of the truck while camping.

[@leopoldoparada76]

Dear friend, you are right!

[@rocketeer.]

You are so right Ralfy for calling them out for their flannel. I would rather have a higher proof product than useless theater. I avoid whisky that is less than 50% alcohol as being suspicious.

[@steven4570]

You think whisky that is less than 50% is suspicious? What?

[@alexk3088]

Reading all the comments about more and more malts selling without a box, I'm thinking: to those who like to collect the boxes, we'd better hold on to the ones we have!

[@emieloss7229]

Yes! Glengoyne 18 is my favortie whisky but that new box is really pissing me off as well.

[@timthewhiskynut477]

Unfortunately packaging like this is used to help justify high pricing to the buyer, usually when the brand / marketing department has already decided on what that price should be, regardless of their cost price.

[@danadair1349]

I'll pay 5$ for the box, and then I'll pay 20$ if they quit chill filtering a d bump the proof up. Seriously, since Glendronach went chill filtered I'd love to see Glengoyne go integrity bottling. Their cask strength is a kick ass whisky, that as an 18 year old is a 165$ bottle all day long.

[@steven4570]

Don't think Glendronach is chill filtering, if they are it's very light. Still mist in the glass.

[@olavhegnar6777]

YES, A THOUSAND TIMES YES! Extravagant and exuberant packaging is one of my biggest pet peeves. Stop it! Or, even better; everyone should take a note from Springbank and stop with the cardboard boxes altogether!

[@Hogibaer]

...And sadly it all comes along with a beefy price increase in which the premiumization of the 18 (better packaging was previously reserved to the 21 and older) as' justification' is just a 'natural' consequence for the distillery.

[@chrispemberton7000]

Nicely said Ralffy.

[@cameronshine3465]

yes ralfy, the senior managers would have called a staff meeting to talk about this box.The senior managers would have said to the staff look at what we have created , look at this box that we have created! goodness me what a wast of time they are, and also wasting money and everyone else's time.

[@tweezerjam]

My favorite ralfy rant. How bout NO box? I’ve never bought a bottle of bourbon in a box unless it came with some glasses. Ridiculous

[@arakafafian]

What about heavy bottles?

[@thewhiskybothy]

. . . boxes first !

[@markmckenzie3522]

Ralfy Rant 921 Xtras!!!! Hell yeah

[@grbadalamenti]

Enjoying this video while putting order in my cigar box. Ever tried any Italian Toscano cigars?

[@weesky5222]

how relevant this video is :) said with great spirit, malt mate.

[@mattd2001]

Silly silly box. It seriously looks better at the end of the video. The size alone was embarrassing.

[@frankcousins6479]

brilliant;-) loved the beating of the box... Seems like a case of a 'substitute' for something that might be 'small' when we see boxes like this... ;-)

[@perkristiansandgren4132]

I miss the old glengoyne box

[@calebsteingruber6906]

Looking forward to the Clynelish...

[@VeryUsMumblings]

I hope it never happens to anybody, but I always wonder what somebody would do if they had a few beers with their friends around about Xmas time, then they all realize that they probably won't see each other again for a while, so they decide to celebrate by opening that bottle of 18 yr old and having a few drams before the holidays over. They get box, put it on the table, realized that it won't open the normal way, and bing bang boom, the bottle is broken and the 18yr is all over the floor, all because the box opened in some way that a person couldn't navigate while toasted. What do you do? ask for a refund? Do you take the box back to the store and show how this cardboard mechanism confused you while you were a little tipsy? Cross your fingers and hope the guy at the store says: "You're the third person with a box-complaint this week." Only to have the same guy state: "No, there's no refund. However, we do sell a small booklet with instructions on how to open a box."

[@DonnerPassWhisky]

The old bottling of this 18 had the much more upscale looking label on the bottle and came in a tube that also looked very good but was not ridiculously oversized. Funny how Glengoyne ditched the tube with it's metal end caps but went for the overboard box.

[@benmarnoch4111]

The marketing team have to justify their existence.

[@andy_calderwood]

Backwards step for Glengoyne and adding cost to the product we don't need. For me, boxes are irrelevant and go in recycling bin. I would rather do without box and pay less or get added product value with %ABV etc. Be like NcNean and offer boxless version .... that's environmentally friendly. Many retailers by courier take bottles out the box ( flatpack it) anyway to bubble/ air pack etc

[@richardkilley6838]

The box I go out in won't be as elaborate as that!

[@genericteen]

Some of us even throw the boxes away the second we get home with our new purchase

[@thisarfingai]

Bravo Ralfy, BRAVO! I abhor wasteful packaging. It turns me off when I am buying whiskey. I do not want my hard-earned money paying for packaging rather than the product I am actually buying. I would rather NO packaging at all. Although it's not all bad - I recently bought a bottle of Aberlour a'bunadh batch 66 with a 30% discount because it didn't have the outer tube. All the batch 71s on the shelf had them & the bottleshop owner told me that "no one wants that one because it doesn't have the box". It even had dust on it :)

[@thisarfingai]

and whisky too ;)

[@WhooshFlyingHorse444]

'Evening Ralfy! Well said good Sir on the Glengoyne 18 excessive & unnecessary packaging. I'm 100% with you on this topic. Best wishes, Paul