RAM 2500 Cummins Diesel **HEAVY DUTY Mechanic Review** | Is CUMMINS The BEST?

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2 жыл бұрын

The Cummins is the best Diesel engine option in a heavy duty pick-up truck. I review as a heavy duty diesel mechanic this 2021 RAM 2500 Cummins Diesel and explained why the Cummins is the better diesel engine between the PowerStroke Diesel and the Duramax Diesel.
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What is going on guys, this beautiful 2021 RAM 2500 Cummins Turbo Diesel is my good friend Ryan truck and I wanted to share my opinions on this awesome engine. first and foremost I don't mean to hate on GM or Ford but their diesel options, the Duramax and the PowerStroke are simply not as well built. they are consumer build engines whereas the Cummins is a commercial use engine built and designed for round the clock off-highway use. this results in a very strong reliable engine.
The Cummins is an Inline 6 engine whereas fords powerstroke and GM duramax are both V8's. now if you know anything about big trucks and towing you'll know that just about every engine on the road today in those semi trucks is an inline 6 and there is good reason for it. Inline 6 engines produce more torque at lower RPM's because of their natural undersquare design resulting in longer crank throw and more torque at slower engine RPM. which is exactly what you want when buying a heavy duty pick up truck!
not that V8 diesels can't make lots of torque in fact all things the same a v8 and I6 will make the same torque numbers but a V8 will make its torque higher in the RPM band then an inline 6.
this also means that a v8 will rev higher and faster making it actually a better engine option for a fast engine and a fast truck. so if you are looking for a quick truck a V8 option is a great option! Not that the Cummins is slow but again all things the same a V8 will be a fasting reving engine resulting in more speed in theory
the other major reason why a cummins engine is soo good is because of its reliability and the fact that it was over engineered for use in a pick up truck! these engines were originally designed for off-highway commercial use and were going to be used mostly for CASE tractors. in 1989 Cummins struck a deal with Chrysler and the rest is history. but that same commercial engine is used today in RAM 2500 trucks.
how many medium duty truck do you see rolling down the road with a duramax or powerstroke engine? None. that's because they are not meant for heavy duty use. those engine are fine, there's nothing wrong with them and they will serve most people just fine! but the Cummins is simply a stronger engine built to last.
so to conclude the Cummins engines are great and they are the best engine offered in the pick up truck market!

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@theunluckyfrog3316
@theunluckyfrog3316 2 жыл бұрын
Im a huge Cummins fan, but I feel people also forget to mention that its 2/3's of a v8. That's 2 less injectors I have to buy, that's only 1 head gasket, not 2, one. Its in a straight 6 formation, I dont have to worry about disassembling the intake manifold or going through a mess of pipes, the turbo is right there, everything is right there. I don't gotta worry about glow plugs. There is 2/3's the moving parts to worry about. Cummins is in fact superior
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
wonderful points! 100% correct, simpler engine all round yet still packs a big punch.
@donstaggs3827
@donstaggs3827 2 жыл бұрын
Your right.....you WILL need to work on it!
@bobjackson4287
@bobjackson4287 2 жыл бұрын
While C is the best engine by far, it's too bad its wrapped in a crappy truck.
@donstaggs3827
@donstaggs3827 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobjackson4287 Its a great motor but the emissions are killing the reliability of it.
@bobjackson4287
@bobjackson4287 2 жыл бұрын
@@donstaggs3827 Depends on what version of Cummins, 5.9 did not really have that problem at all. 6.7 does but can be deleted.
@Smooththatsme
@Smooththatsme 2 жыл бұрын
The 6.7L Cummins is a well built engine like you said and it can be even more reliable when you do a full emission equipment delete
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I wanted to just talk about the engine but yes ripping the EGR the filters will make this engines run much better
@robertl2072
@robertl2072 2 жыл бұрын
Have a 2016 myself and the emissions equipment has mysteriously disappeared. Truck runs so much better. It's like breathing with one lung vs two lungs.
@stevenhooten4275
@stevenhooten4275 2 жыл бұрын
But these new engines are not designed to run without egr and that's why people have problems out of there trucks the engines are not designed to run without em
@raghknarrscott1790
@raghknarrscott1790 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenhooten4275 Well @Steven Hooten your just wrong. These engines are never “designed” to run on their own exhaust, the American EPA wants our personal trucks adapted with EGR & Particulate filters which make our personal trucks loose 20% + fuel economy, cut Engine Life by 33% + Facts. Plus, these emissions parts are unreliable, short lived and EXPENSIVE ($5k to $10k) costly replacements @ around 80,000 miles. Tunes are easily adaptable to the current generation Diesel engines. My 2018 F350 fully deleted with an Easy Link tune gets 24mpg and 13.4 mpg towing my 9000lb Airstream. 50,000 miles, 100% reliable.
@darkdaysahead5079
@darkdaysahead5079 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenhooten4275 what? No engine was ever designed to run on exhaust gas. Tell me why they run better, get better fuel economy and are more reliable without all the emissions garbage?
@sideshowbob8035
@sideshowbob8035 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely can agree, I've had my 2006 Cummins 2500 for 14 years and the only things I've replaced on the engine is a water pump and injectors....That is it and still going strong, my truck has 335,000 miles and is awesome
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
they are good stuff
@toddallison4390
@toddallison4390 2 жыл бұрын
I also own an 06 5.9 Cummins. I've replaced my water pump, that's it. Of course, I'm only at 176K miles, so roughly half of your truck!
@jaimenunez1890
@jaimenunez1890 2 жыл бұрын
I also got 06 ram 2500 350000 Miles still runns like bring new all I replace weather pump 3 times
@brentmcmahon8188
@brentmcmahon8188 2 жыл бұрын
My 05 has only replaced serpentine belt at 145k no brakes or water or injectors but Iam a old truck driver and I have never turned over 22 hundred RPM. I have been told all my life that only thing that kills a diesel is heat and RPM’s.
@paulc3455
@paulc3455 2 жыл бұрын
Had same year in past it went 1.5 mil before she blew damn tough engine.
@supersonoma9871
@supersonoma9871 2 жыл бұрын
Can't forget about having a manual trans option up to 2018. I've got a 2016 cummins with a G56, deleted and tuned with a south bend clutch. It's amazing! My new favourite eng/trans combo. It's a pleasure to tow with and rev match downshifting with the exhaust brake puts a smile on my face.
@ryanl5888
@ryanl5888 2 жыл бұрын
I got one too and its absolutely my favorite vehicle I have ever owned and I have owned many from hellcats to cobras to a lifted 7.3 on 40s and there is no comparison
@brocklee1996
@brocklee1996 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I got a 2018 ram 3500 4x4 SRW cummins with manual tranny. So happy with it and probably only guy in So Cal with one...lol. I'll keep this bad boy forever
@ryanl5888
@ryanl5888 2 жыл бұрын
@@brocklee1996 watch it will be a collectors item one day!!! I am definitely keeping mine and I am in NC and people are shocked here that it has a manual
@barrigany
@barrigany Жыл бұрын
@@brocklee1996 you're the second😁
@themotofixery
@themotofixery Жыл бұрын
I own a 2017 3500 limited single rear wheel and I absolutely love it. I pull double trailers. A 30 foot fifth wheel and enclosed utility trailer behind that. 65 foot total length. Almost completely stock emissions intact. It's a beast!
@jerryfuentes1985
@jerryfuentes1985 2 жыл бұрын
Cummins engines are so easy to work on and that true commercial diesel sound it makes just love it..
@The_Future_isnt_so_Bright
@The_Future_isnt_so_Bright 2 жыл бұрын
For a couple years I installed these retrofit 4 cylinder Cummins engines into bread trucks to replace the underpowered Ford 300 straight 6's. I was really impressed with the power output. They are a little weird when adapted to a gasoline engine stick shift transmission but I liked them. As my boss at the time told me the 4 banger is identical to the 5.9L straight 6 just missing front and rear cylinders. These adapters for the transmissions looked like massive wasp nest, guess they can adapt to anything for real.
@MrScribe323
@MrScribe323 Жыл бұрын
Hi can you tell me how hard that was I'm looking to add a cummings for a econoline
@rickyregisterkjv1611
@rickyregisterkjv1611 2 жыл бұрын
Truth!! I’ve been driving Cummins pickups for years. By far the most dependable, longest lasting pickup engines ever built. I have several 5.9 engines with 600k and still running good. I also have had several 6.7 engines that have been just as dependable as the 5.9.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
great engines! built and designed to be abused for commercial use which is why they last so long.
@myk1_sp
@myk1_sp Жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures Just like diesel trucks should be!
@thomasmello7176
@thomasmello7176 Жыл бұрын
Been a technician for 27 years. Just got my first diesel truck 2021 Ram diesel and love it! Took me years to buy one but for my hard earn money and experience the Cummins wins. 6 in a row ready to tow!
@ms.annthrope415
@ms.annthrope415 2 ай бұрын
It's everything wrapped around the Cummins that is just crap. Ram has no concept of quality control.
@angelawerner7696
@angelawerner7696 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for confirming my experience and explaining the technical reasons why my 2006, Ram 3500 is such a great truck. So glad I bought it 18 years ago. It’s still going strong.
@manuelguzmanjr6622
@manuelguzmanjr6622 2 жыл бұрын
In October I purchased a 2022 patriot blue midnight edition like yours don't have the led lights which I miss but overall, a great looking truck. So far, I have 2800 miles on it. Great job bro! I feel happy with my purchase even more watching your video coming from a diesel mechanic.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
they are the real deal my man!
@johnlong384
@johnlong384 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and yes, I totally agree using a 12 valve 5.9 Cummins with ~ 300+ hp and 500.000 + miles on it!
@ron1584
@ron1584 2 жыл бұрын
The testing of the Cummins engine in a pickup was in a 1979 Ford pickup from Triline in Calgary, Alberta Canada
@cooperbrown1
@cooperbrown1 2 жыл бұрын
Good video and you are correct about this engine. Ive had three Ram 3500 in the past and still own one today. All were high mileage trucks that were all deleted and caused no issues. The same cannot be said about the trucks but the engine is flawless.
@cooperbrown1
@cooperbrown1 Жыл бұрын
@@Pedro-0839 Personally, I tend to always buy new. Been stung a couple times on the used purchase and I hate fixing what someone else broke.
@yooo2568
@yooo2568 2 ай бұрын
How do you get those programs deleted
@cooperbrown1
@cooperbrown1 2 ай бұрын
@@yooo2568 In my part of Canada, deletes are still available.
@tomfrantz
@tomfrantz 2 жыл бұрын
My Aissen in my last 2014 was perfectly paired to the 6.7. !58K and zero issues. LOVE the Aissen and Cummins pairing. I heard the new ones are improved. I hope they are not improved in a way that would make them less reliable...
@lindamcentaffer5969
@lindamcentaffer5969 2 жыл бұрын
In 2006, I moved from Portland, OR to DFW TX area. I was pulling a Travel Trailer 26' long with a fully loaded '89 F-250 H.D with a LWB. I had a 460 with 5-speed stick, Banks Power Pack, EFI, Headers & Intake tract. It was over 20 years before Dodges with Cummins would out pull the old beast. They got better mileage, but 2 different new dodges with similar sized trailers challenged me on mountain uphill pulls & they lost, 6-0. They'd blast by me on the bottom, & I'd pass 'em in 4th about 1/2 way up. That truck has had 2 more owners & is STILL doing great. Now days, I have a 6.0 L that runs fine, doesn't leak & has never had the heads off. But, I do like Dodges; it's American Iron.
@jayraysdiy852
@jayraysdiy852 2 жыл бұрын
I still love driving my 2003 with the 5.9l Cummins. It has over 352,000 miles and I wouldn’t hesitate to drive cross country towing a heavy load with it. In fact, I have a 32 foot fifth wheel that I tow with it.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
those old 5.9's are dynamite engines.
@jayraysdiy852
@jayraysdiy852 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures Thanks. I agree
@myk1_sp
@myk1_sp Жыл бұрын
@@jayraysdiy852 No emissions bullshit and way more "sensible" luxury than modern trucks!
@jayraysdiy852
@jayraysdiy852 Жыл бұрын
@@myk1_sp well, I do have seats out of a 2017 model.
@myk1_sp
@myk1_sp Жыл бұрын
@@jayraysdiy852 That's just seats, not the whole truck. ^^
@Erated78
@Erated78 2 жыл бұрын
The under square and straight six info was really interesting Alex - great video thanks and have an awesome day. Cheers
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
I thought so too. Different engines for different application is kind of what it comes down to i guess.
@Rift45
@Rift45 Жыл бұрын
Can’t argue with this. I’ve owned a 5.9 Cummins and a 6.7 Powerstroke. Love them both.
@louiscaniac2519
@louiscaniac2519 2 жыл бұрын
One more thing. In 1980 I drove GMC 45 passenger busses that came with Detroit L92s. They were retrofitted with cummins 650hp V8s. I got one up to 110 mph on the autobahn. If you have a L92 and it doesn't leak oil, shut it off. It's out of oil. L92s were in the M911 Heavy Equipment Transporters, Heavy Expanded Mobility Tactical Trucks, and Palitized Loading Systems. HP ratings went from 415 up to 500.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
I would of loved to hear that v8 Cummins. 650 horsepower back then is no joke. the newest big DD16's only come with like 600.
@dieselmutt8865
@dieselmutt8865 Жыл бұрын
The v92 series Detroit's as well as all their 2 strokes leaked oil from the air box drain. That oil was simply typical oil consumption that would get past the rings but instead of being burned in the cylinder like a four stroke, it was allowed to leave the engine before getting to the combustion chamber. If they had simply routed those drains back into the oil pan they wouldn't have used or leaked any more oil than any other engine. They likely didn't route the drains to the oil pan due to the air box pressure that also would come along with the oil.
@paulbutler5067
@paulbutler5067 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. My son bought a 2021 2500 back in June of 21. It is the same Delmonico Red as the truck you show here. It is an absolute wonderful truck to drive. I have owned 2 Cummins myself, a 1993 5.9 with the Getrag 5 speed and a 1998 5.9 12 valve with the NV4500 5-speed. While I really liked the manual behind the Cummins, the new 6.7 auto makes a great package in the recent generation truck. Now I am considering one myself. I noticed that Cummins now puts the CP3 fuel pump on the engine which arguably is a more durable pump that the CP4 it replaced. One thing I will ask: There are lot of people out there talking about deletion of the emissions. This can bring in all kinds of unwanted issues with inspection, warranty, DOT fines if caught, etc. What, if any, concerns should a buyer be aware of specifically related to the emissions systems on these trucks? Quite franky, I remember the day when idling my old 5.9s would fill the neighborhood with smelly exhaust particularly on a cold morning. My son's truck runs amazingly clean. And it makes way more power than either of my old trucks did.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that the emissions system are boomed to fail and yes a modern diesel can run for hours inside a shop and you wouldn't even notice, they are super clean. but in colder climates like Canada def does not like the cold. it can freeze and become an issue. there are also just a lot of sensors and wiring on the exhaust system which gets hot and cold day in and out and when those sensor fail it will completely de-rate the truck. the systems have gotten better over the years but there is just alot of things to go wrong and when they do you'll be limited the truck to like 10km an hour in limp mode. whereas if your O2 sensor failed on a gas engine, it would throw a check engine light but you could in theory drive it for weeks until it got fixed.
@nitetrain7136
@nitetrain7136 2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna ask the same question as I would love to own a 5th gen Cummins But would love for it to have the diesel sound and whistle. I’ve never owned a diesel But been a trucker driver for almost 24 years. I really don’t know much about them Just know I’ve always thought of owning one. I’m sick of piss ant 1500’s. Plus you don’t have to lift or put a decent lift on a 2500 so it can still be used in the winters up here in Upper Michigan as a year round truck. My current 17 Ram 1500 on 9” lift is probably useless and gets complete shit for mpg. I’m guessing these new ones hopefully get mid to upper mpgs and more so when deleted? Any idea how much it is to delete these brand new or newer 5th Gens? Can you put an X pipe glasspack muffler combo on a diesel like I just had installed on my Ram and get same sound? Thanks
@Nothingtoya
@Nothingtoya 2 жыл бұрын
@Nite Train my 2014 2500 is fully deleted. I average about 18/19 mpg. On the highway, that can get as high as 25mpg. As for the exhaust, mine is 4 inch and straight piped. Some people hate how loud it is, I personally love it. On a cold morning (For Florida, that's about 30 degrees Fahrenheit), turn the exhaust brake on while it's warming up and enjoy the sound of your jet engine lol.
@46fd04
@46fd04 2 жыл бұрын
@paul Butler; my 2019 Cummins has been recalled because of the fuel pump. There is no replacement part available. Do you know if the 2019's had the CP3 or CP4 pump? I don't know which one has been recalled. And neither does my RAM Dealer LOL
@paulbutler5067
@paulbutler5067 2 жыл бұрын
@@46fd04 my understanding is that Cummins put the CP3 pump on the 2021 models replacing the CP4 in previous years.
@kenbtheman
@kenbtheman 2 жыл бұрын
I think the best truck would be a Cummins engine backed with an Allison transmission in a Ford body. Just my opinion.
@jakethesk8roberts763
@jakethesk8roberts763 Жыл бұрын
Or the new Ford torq shift tranny that comes wit the 6.7 power stroke they are actually one of the best out now
@markrich3271
@markrich3271 Жыл бұрын
I think the 4speed transmission that came with the rams is one the best trannys ever built. The 48re is awesome when built properly.
@jakethesk8roberts763
@jakethesk8roberts763 Жыл бұрын
@@markrich3271 those are great tranny’s but as far as stock goes the Ford torq shift are Stout
@cbskwkdnslwhanznamdm2849
@cbskwkdnslwhanznamdm2849 Жыл бұрын
I’m with you and then Chevy interior haha seriously
@dannytsutsumishita2372
@dannytsutsumishita2372 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@stevenpeterson7234
@stevenpeterson7234 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man!! I wish Cat would make a small displacement 4 cylinder diesel engine for light duty trucks. I had a Cat C-15 in my dump truck and that engine was indestructible!! I ran that truck at 2000 plus rpms and drove it like I stole it!! Honestly I think Cat is a better engine then Cummins in Semi's.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh ya alot of engines are better then the ISX cummins. I'd run a cat or a 60 series before a cummins. There decent engines for trucking but not the best in my opinion. But in the pick up truck market cummins is the clear winner lol. At yes it was always odd why GM or Ford didnt jump all over that. Imagine a GM with a Cat engine in it. You could market that so well!
@stevenpeterson7234
@stevenpeterson7234 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures That would be awesome!! Could you imagine the rivalry that would spark between Ram and GM.... 🤩
@ChasBrey
@ChasBrey 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenpeterson7234 A GM might be worth a second look at that point, or even a contender. Now? GM isn't even in the running by my reckon.
@dantimber
@dantimber 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures I think the GM Duramax was a joint (development) venture with Isuzu in the 90's. They probably made the decision based on cost. I would guess they considered Cat and others.
@TorturedPeace
@TorturedPeace 2 жыл бұрын
Cat horsepower was amazing, but Cummins always had better efficiency and then after the 1990s and the 444 Cummins, they went bigger and started crushing the competition!
@Eric2300jeep
@Eric2300jeep 2 жыл бұрын
A small correction: Cummins didn't bring exhaust brakes into commonplace, Jacobs Vehicle Systems did. Cummins just sourced the exhaust brake from Jacobs. I have a factory option Jacobs/Cummins exhaust brake in my '03. Love it. Funny now that Cummins bought Jacobs Vehicle Systems recently, as well as Holset. Which means Cummins now makes everything for their engines under one roof. Pretty cool. Just hoping it doesn't lead to lower QC!
@dieselmutt8865
@dieselmutt8865 Жыл бұрын
Actually, yes Clesse Cummins did design the first diesel compression brake. It was marketed under Jacobs Engine Brake so that it could be used on other big engine manufacturers engines as well vs being only Cummins exclusive.
@danarnold9557
@danarnold9557 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, your insight helped solidify my decision to purchase a 4th gen 2500. First vehicle I consider an investment.
@juttman04
@juttman04 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Never doubted what you said! Own the 2021 Night Edition Megacab!Best ever!
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
They are great trucks!
@gajjustice
@gajjustice 2 жыл бұрын
We have both, Ford F-250 Super Duty's with the 6.7 Power Strokes and Ram 2500's with the Cummin's diesels. In face we have ordered 30 new Ram 2500's with the Cummins and so far received 17 of them. We pull Big Tex Goosenecks and some heavy car hauler trailers. I have not ran into any issue pulling anything with either of the trucks. What I have noticed is the Ford has way more get up and go on take off or when passing anther vehicle and has a smoother ride. Also two of the new Dodges are now in the shop with less that 6000 miles on them. They have fuel delivery problems due to the fuel pumps. From what I have been told this is a issue that Stellantis is going to address with a recall but it don't hemp much when I have trucks breaking down in several states.
@davidc5808
@davidc5808 Жыл бұрын
Any updates on your new 2500s? Any new breakdowns? Any other issues? How are your f250s as well?
@gajjustice
@gajjustice Жыл бұрын
@@davidc5808 I am no longer with that company, I left for a civilian job in the Federal government.
@papageorgeo7497
@papageorgeo7497 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago we did see the T444 7.3 in school buses and moving trucks.
@chadrogers4635
@chadrogers4635 2 жыл бұрын
You can also put 700,000 miles on a Cummins with no worries and put 1 million before having to rebuild them. Where the Power Stroke and Duramax are needed rebuilt at about 500,000.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Well these engines arent lined so it would make an inframe a little tough. Block would probably have to be machined but your point is valid these engines will run longer then the competition
@snipersam204
@snipersam204 2 жыл бұрын
Thats funny I know a few ford 6.7s bone stock never opened with over a million km on them. Also a few duramamx with over 800 thousand km.
@Jim-bw8jo
@Jim-bw8jo 2 жыл бұрын
@@snipersam204 I get your point but just to clarify... Chad's comment mentioned running 1 million miles but you are comparing with kilometers. A million km is slightly over 621K miles which is significantly less, comparatively speaking.
@texlee1640
@texlee1640 2 жыл бұрын
Long time Super Duty owner that went RAM/Cummins on the most recent purchase. I couldn't be more happy with this truck, unlike the Ford's, I plan to keep this truck around for many years.
@Hereford1020
@Hereford1020 2 жыл бұрын
Not to downing your decision but just seen a fairly new dodge with billet stainless steel ball joints in it 1000 plus dollars
@texlee1640
@texlee1640 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hereford1020 They all have their issues, front ends on RAM's have always needed upgrades over time.
@fireant1272
@fireant1272 2 жыл бұрын
Had a 12 valve cummins that thing was beat on plowing snow and would just keep running. Had 560k when I sold it. Had about 5 transmission rebuilds.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Transmissions were not built to last lol but the cummins certainly was
@myk1_sp
@myk1_sp Жыл бұрын
What transmission was in it?
@craigwheeler2057
@craigwheeler2057 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that the Cummings is a good diesel engine. The challenge is all the other stuff that goes along with the ram truck transmissions etc. I still think I’d rather have a Ford or GM diesel. That’s just my opinion for what it’s worth
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Fair point. I do believe i've read that ram is looking into a new trans for its heavy duty trucks. Either a heavy spec 8 or 10 speed ZF. Or potentially a contract with allison as GM's exclusive contract with them is up. And I know alot of commercial trucks that run an ISB cummins (6.7) with an allison trans behind it so it would be awesome to see that combo
@InLineDiesel6
@InLineDiesel6 2 жыл бұрын
Outside the tranny, I'm not sure what other stuff you are referencing. I've got a 2015 3500 with the 68RFE pulling a 16,000 RV. I'm trouble free.
@chrism2042
@chrism2042 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased my first Dodge with cummins in 1999, 2500 4x4. I towed horse a 24' GN 4 horse trailer all over the NC, VA & TN mountains. Traded that truck at 251k miles, running and towing like a champ. Got a 2005 3500 dually 4x4 with 68 RFE trans, stepped up to a 44' full living quarters 4 horse trailer. Probably 40k miles of me owning that truck was towing the horse trailer around the mountains and a 24' GN with skid steer and attachments. Traded that truck at 207k miles, running and towing like a champ. Neither truck had transmission problems, both trucks needed fuel pumps around 125k-150k miles, the 1999 needed front wheel bearings around 180k miles. Other than that, just typical maintenance items. Both trucks were 100% stock and I stayed on top of maintenance. Some mechanics said I went overboard on servicing because I had the trans serviced, diffs and transfer case fluids changed more often than recommended, but that's because I towed heavy a lot. Maybe I did, but I never had drive train problems. I now have a 2017 3500 dually, crew cab, LB, Limited 4x4 with HO 6.7 and Aisin trans, it's a beast with a heavy load. Hotshot guys loved the new Fords with 10 speed trans, until they started have serious trans issues.
@fozzybear9114
@fozzybear9114 2 жыл бұрын
People are referring to dodge trannys from 20 yrs ago. It gets old. Although i dont like how 68 shifts they have been very durable for us. Ram would be smart to get new hd tranny for marketing if nothin else
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
@@fozzybear9114 allison is rumored to be rolling in. big old 10 speed maybe
@DarkHorse08
@DarkHorse08 Жыл бұрын
I’ve driven cross country quite a bit. The majority of HD pickup trucks on the interstate towing big loads are Rams. You see them way more than any other truck on the road.
@williamgriffin2601
@williamgriffin2601 Жыл бұрын
Great video comparing the diesel engines offered in today's market...
@kevinsteele246
@kevinsteele246 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad cummins got the contract. Could you imagine what a nightmare it would have been if paccar would have got it.
@dieselmutt8865
@dieselmutt8865 Жыл бұрын
😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@gravytrainoutdoors
@gravytrainoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite engine in a passenger vehicle is the Mercedes OM617a. From a longevity standpoint they do have a leg up on the Cummins. Lots of those engines out there in generator setups pushing 40-50,000hrs on the motors. A good friend of mine was Mercedes tech in Germany that was part of the original design team that released the W123 chassis cars and he talked a lot about some of the engineering that went into those motors. Only thing that killed them was running them too cold. My own 300td has over 750k on the car and it’s untouched. I have owned the car since it had about 120k on it and the only repairs have been the water pump and the oil filter blocks o rings where it mounts to the block. Other than that just regular valve adjustments and normal maintenance. Oh I did do the timing chain and tensioner around 400k and the tensioner is getting near maxed out again. I’m a Cummins guy and have worked on a lot of different diesels but that engine, I have a real soft spot for!
@toddfolmsbee2429
@toddfolmsbee2429 Жыл бұрын
Not taking anything away from the Mercedes engine but they do two different things in a automobile
@gravytrainoutdoors
@gravytrainoutdoors Жыл бұрын
@@toddfolmsbee2429 the om617 was designed as an industrial motor and then put in vehicles and the original German durability ratings were higher than b10 500,000mi. They don’t get worked that hard in the cars but that can be hard on an engine in its own way
@fordbossss
@fordbossss 2 жыл бұрын
The 7.3 was used in several navistar Medium duty Applications.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
yup you got me there!
@Egnatius
@Egnatius 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that's nice you read the brochure
@redbarron6574
@redbarron6574 2 жыл бұрын
They are designed for Utility use. But they are competitive for commercial/industrial use which makes them ultra competitive for utility power generation.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
well said! I've a lot of gen sets use these engines.
@compactc9
@compactc9 Жыл бұрын
My Grandpa actually had a 5.9 that was non-turbo as an irrigation well engine.
@dagabriel9416
@dagabriel9416 2 жыл бұрын
Physics analysis concluded 90 degree V design produced more torque but great point about lower RPM. I haven’t seen any calculations on that yet.
@tomfrantz
@tomfrantz 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thank you. I will buy a 2022-Cab and chassis number 6. Your education shows. Your knowledge is broad based. Thank you.
@elijah9662
@elijah9662 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the 2nd gen swap for the 6.7? I'm having it done on mine after the vgt went out on my stock turbo
@austinthac5014
@austinthac5014 2 жыл бұрын
The duramax has been used in medium duty applications, was offered in the Chevy kodiak and Gmc topkick. Today it is offered in the new Silverado medium duty trucks and international CV. The 6.7 power stroke is offered in the F650 and 750. The V8 diesels have definitely been used in medium duty applications.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
well ya because it's a gm product lol why pay to license another diesel when you have your own. international has a contract with gm and that "international" is a glorified gm pick up. but have you seen like a medium duty freight liner or Kenworth use a duramax? maybe a school bus or a city bus? probably not. look I'm not trying to hate on the duramax I actually kind of like them. they make great power. but the commercial trucking industry does not use consumer engines in their products. the cummins is a commercial grade engine whereas the powerstroke and duramax are not.
@stevenhooten4275
@stevenhooten4275 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures they use cummins cause they own the diesel industry and that doesn't mean there superior in any way they are decent but not great throw numbers all you like cat is where it is yes they stop making motors and that's cause of the emissions crap cummins had ford and chevy that owned stocks in cummins
@nicknickolette2777
@nicknickolette2777 2 жыл бұрын
Isuzu that is all.
@dieselmutt8865
@dieselmutt8865 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenhooten4275 The only ones who believe that Cat made the best engines are people who wear the yellow underwear. Cat is not bad but they were not the perfect platform either. It took Detroit Diesel to come out with the Series 60 to get Cat off their a$$ to start improving their lineup to be half way competitive. Just like the Harley Davidson mindset of people buying the name more than the product. I have never been a Cummins fan in heavy trucks but in the pickup market they are probably the best option going.
@sizemorec1
@sizemorec1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah those vehicles you speak of I would consider to be home owner small farm at best not drop dead commercial
@andrewpatillo7042
@andrewpatillo7042 Жыл бұрын
I have always been a diehard Cummins fanboy too but as problematic and finicky as they are, the Navistar power strokes were used in medium duty trucks under alternate naming. The 7.3 was called T444E, and the 6.0 was called VT-365 both indicating CI displacement, and the infamous 6.4 was called Maxxforce 7 which had better pistons than fords version. And navistar is still using the engine. Also the powerstrokes have always been under square and the latest 6.7 produces it’s torque at low rpm. V8 diesels also have their advantages: they have less friction because they have fewer crank bearings, they are lighter, and more compact just to name a few. They have been used for many applications for years, especially in applications where space is a concern: mining dump trucks, trains gensets, and especially compact vehicles: Tanks, Bradley fighting vehicles, fire trucks etc. look up an old engine called a 903 Cummins it was used for many applications, also we can’t forget the 3208 Cat or the old 2-stroke detroits used in everything you can think of, they sound like they are turning twice as fast as they actually are and are perhaps the most under square engines ever built. The b model Cummins was not designed for pickups but for heavy applications, but Cummins actually did design a pickup engine recently and guess what! it was a V8 ( the 5.0 used in the Nissan Titan. So the V8 design defiantly has its advantages. Also the V8 is much smoother than I6 design, for one thing it has a balanced firing order, secondly it has more cylinders which always makes an engine smoother! But the big reason why the V design is smoother is because the pistons are going in different directions instead of all up and down. I know this from experience because I grew up on the road in a bus with a music act and we had busses with v8 and in-line 6 The duramax is a great, bulletproof engine and it’s predecessor, the 6.5 Detroit is also if you get the bugs worked out of it. The 6.5 Detroit has been used in military humvees for years I would rather work on a dodge Cummins than any other pickup diesel because everything is just so much easier to get to, also the design is so simple and straightforward The duramax is over square, and it shows up in the poor towing mpg and lack of low end torque, but they are a much cleaner, simpler engine design than the power stroke for example: they simply have a straightforward normal, traditional diesel engine design with Bosch common rail where ford has had all kinds of weird stuff: The pre 7.3 and 6.0 had the insanely over complicated HEUI system which used pressurized oil to run the injectors and the turbo veins on the 6.0 It worked ok on the 7.3 because it was actually designed by Caterpillar and built like a tank, but was a complete disaster on the 6.0 The 6.7 power stroke is also an extremely weird design So I’d rather work on a duramax than a powerstroke, but a the Ram Cummins is still easier to work on
@umadbrooo6947
@umadbrooo6947 2 жыл бұрын
Only small flow for 6.7 Cummins is the years 19-20 where the cp4 had issues
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
yup they had a small hiccup there lol
@alaska-bornfloridaman
@alaska-bornfloridaman 2 жыл бұрын
Did a full delete on my 2013 6.7 Cummins last year. It's like driving an 8000 pound Corvette now.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
haha those aftertreatment systems suck to much power out of these engines
@alaska-bornfloridaman
@alaska-bornfloridaman 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures The catalyst was 90% blocked by a stalactite of dried DEF. I'm also getting 22 mpg now. SO glad I finally did this.
@barrygrimes3919
@barrygrimes3919 2 жыл бұрын
@@alaska-bornfloridaman my 4500 c&c is pure work horse. Can't wait to get her deleted. I haul a crap load of hvac equipment, tools, fittings, etc. It presently gets 11.76 mpg. It also has a barn door for a tool body.
@dandodds3681
@dandodds3681 2 жыл бұрын
The 6bt and the 4bt are the two small diesel engines found in the industrial and " marine " application, I was installing Cummins 6and 4 bt engines in boats long before Dodge ever got intresred in them back in The mid 80s. If you really want to find out how an engine will perform , put it in the marine world. Penske tried it with the 6.2 v8 didn't work out so well I was present on one of the only start up's. I have never seen a power stroke or an old 6.9 in the marine world, it all comes down to preference as to which engine one wants.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
well said. Cummins has their hands in just about every engine application.
@cab1198
@cab1198 2 жыл бұрын
760VNL 💪💪💪💪 love and enjoy my truck. Going up the mountains of Cheyenne Wyoming at 77 mph 80,000 lb.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
that's quick with a load my man!
@cab1198
@cab1198 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures 👍
@MrWrestler41
@MrWrestler41 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 2021 Ram 2500 Cummins, I drove the GMC and the Ford and they did not feel as fast maybe because the Ram has a lower redline. Also the ride quality on the Ram cannot be touched. If you drive them back to back you will see what I am talking about. The GMC would skip over bumps in the rear and felt horrible, the Ford was a little better then GMC but when you drive the Ram it is night and day for ride quality. I only wish they would offer an 8 speed in the Ram, not sure you need 10 speed. They have those heavy duty 8 speed they use in the Hellcat I am sure they could engineer those for the truck.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
I think RAM is in the works with ZF to bring a heavy duty 8 speed to the 2500/3500 line up. they are possibly working with Allison also which would be cool. Either way, I think we'll see a new transmission for these trucks sooner then later!
@MrWrestler41
@MrWrestler41 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures The Ram is light years ahead with the Cummins and when that ZF 8 Speed hits it will not even be close in 3/4 ton market. Maybe they will offer the H.O. Cummins with the 8 speed in the 2500 that would make me upgrade for sure! The standard Cummins should be the 400hp 1,000 torque engine and the H.O. should be 450hp. They also need to beef up the payload capacity a little, maybe the air bag rear suspension does that? Either way love my Ram.
@toddfry7861
@toddfry7861 2 жыл бұрын
I could not disagree more. My company has all three of the HD trucks. They all have good and bad points. As the owner I choose which I drive. The Chevy definitely has the better ride. Followed by Ram. All if the Fords shake at 48 mph. Ford admitted they shook but it was acceptable. Ram has unbelievable power at the low end. Ram has the best exhaust break by far. As for Ford. I will not drive them. I refer to them as the milk shake maker.
@davehudson1554
@davehudson1554 2 жыл бұрын
A ram rides so bad it’s not even a competition! Guess you never road in anything else
@MrWrestler41
@MrWrestler41 2 жыл бұрын
@@davehudson1554 obviously it is personal preference but if your telling me and outdated leaf HD spring suspension rides better then coils you must work for Chevy. There is a reason everyone when away from them including now Toyota. The rear suspension on the GMC I drove was so tight it bounced over every bump. Now if you are talking about pulling a trailer and loaded that I do not know for the GMC. I have pulled an 8,000 pound trailer with my Ram and it rode and drove like there was nothing back there. Not even sure why you are watching this if you so die hard Chevy that you can't have an open mind.
@jerryscroggins7669
@jerryscroggins7669 10 ай бұрын
I have a 2008 Dodge Ram 2500 hd 6.7 diesel and I can tell you the D.P.F. got clogged with soot and blew my turbo but after deleting all the emissions and chipping it it's been a very reliable fast truck tows nicely.
@panthermartin7784
@panthermartin7784 2 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that a legend like the Cummins can be completely crippled by a faulty DEF injector...
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes 2 жыл бұрын
It only takes one faulty part to ruin a motor 😩
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
any aftertreatment code really, I've seen so many trucks come in de-rated and it takes hours to find a rubbed through wire somewhere along the harness to a useless temp sensor that disables the whole truck. it's sad to be honest.
@bradbarnes2046
@bradbarnes2046 2 жыл бұрын
Stock 24v springs allow the intake valve to completely blow open at 50psi on the bench, but still start to open at 35psi. Hamilton’s website
@mikerodent5205
@mikerodent5205 2 жыл бұрын
Great content!
@tumblevveed3586
@tumblevveed3586 Жыл бұрын
I do want to give Ford a bit of credit. For years they used international engines from the 6.9 IDI to the 6.4 power stroke. Honestly I have no idea why International couldn’t keep up as they have been producing engines for years. But Ford designed the 6.7 in house I believe and for their first Diesel engine to be designed, manufactured and put in their truck lineup that does compete with Cummins and has a descent share of the market is amazing. And out of the big 3, they are the only ones that build their own Diesel engine for these pickups from what I aware of.
@kavik526town2
@kavik526town2 Жыл бұрын
but then you have the 2011- Current ford 6.7 equipped with the CP4 fuel pump which destroys everything. Duramax has it from 2011-current & ram 2019-2020.
@gnolb5072
@gnolb5072 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason "Big Rigs" use I6 engines is not the inherent torque advantage, that advantage is negligible. Packaging, ease of manufacture, ease of maintenance, are the main reasons. Trucking margins are tight and I6s are less costly to keep on the road. Nice vid. ✌️
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
agreed, simple engines for the most part!
@Tedkelvin
@Tedkelvin 2 жыл бұрын
here in Africa the Cummins B series engines are in virtually everything. road graders, Excavators, Dump trucks, semi trucks,. fire tenders, cranes etc...some Companies like TATA have their entire Heavy Duty truck lineup based on the cummins 5.9 and 6.7. . to find it in a "Luxury" pickup in the US is not only shocking but its waay overkill for whatever application that truck is going to be used in.
@46fd04
@46fd04 2 жыл бұрын
UPDATE: In Dec. 2022, my RAM had the fuel pump replaced with a CP3 under warranty. The following was written by me in May 2022. There is an issue with the 2019's. Not the engine but the high pressure fuel pumps. They've been recalled. The BIG problem is, they have yet to manufacture an adequate replacement. So we are driving around not knowing when our big, beautiful Cummins engine will quit. I have a big camping trip planned in July, and I'm concerned.
@jamesvuxta8723
@jamesvuxta8723 Жыл бұрын
I am absolutely convinced and I run a5.9 but do not knock the 6 L Powerstroke when they are gone over they are an excellent engine
@joeymt3
@joeymt3 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that the in-line configuration is better but the power stroke fans will say that the 2020 power stroke produces more torque and at a lower RPM than the ram 6.7 Cummins
@davelariviere682
@davelariviere682 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, all around agree. If you treat it right, it will treat you well.
@jamestopeka2236
@jamestopeka2236 Жыл бұрын
Only bad thing about a diesel engine in a 2500 is it takes away almost a grand on payload . It's better in a 3500 , 4500 or 5500 unless you are planning on only towing with the 2500 then the diesel is best as long as you don't fifth wheel . This is the thing I'm learning now wanting to trade my 1500 Ram so I can buy a fifth wheel camper ... I tow a 25 foot travel trailer now with my 1500 .
@thomasmello7176
@thomasmello7176 Жыл бұрын
That's why I got the 3500 yes sir.
@4.0gpa44
@4.0gpa44 4 ай бұрын
True, but who cares? I don't put more than probably 500 pounds of tools in my truck, ever. All the rest of the weight is myself and the trailer. You can tow a 16k trailer under cdl with a 2500, since the GVWR is 10k. It takes a CDL to tow a 16k trailer with a 3500 as the GVWR is around 11,200 pounds, or you're limited to an approx. 14,500 pound trailer. Yes, a 3500 has more maximum towing ability (around 33,000 pounds). But for me, without a CDL, I'd never be able to use it, so why decrease the under-CDL towing capacity?
@jamestopeka2236
@jamestopeka2236 4 ай бұрын
@@4.0gpa44 Don't need a CDL to tow with a pickup in my state or the states I go to but I get your point , the Ram 2500 gas fits the fifth wheel payload I'm planning to buy but the diesel 2500 didn't was really my main point .
@allanjohnson2552
@allanjohnson2552 2 жыл бұрын
I have a repowed 93 Gmc with 5.9 Cummins still going strong. Rust and transmission issues is the only thing slowing this workhorse down. And also 09 Dodge 6.7 daily driver now. Neither have had any engine issues with either. Combined mileage between the two is well over a million miles. You are wrong about the V8 used in medium trucks and school busses. Our school division had so much trouble with the v8 diesels that they are going back to gasser busses. The biggest kicker being the unreliability of the emissions systems.
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes 2 жыл бұрын
This got me curious so I decided to look it up. The 6.7 powerstroke is over square like the Cummins, and the duramax is under square. This also explains why the powerstrokes tend to have better torque delivery than the duramax. But the duramax is “capable” of more HP and higher RPM’s. Especially with a tune.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Well there ya go. I didnt know the power stroke was over square but yes you nailed it on the head!
@billiondollardan
@billiondollardan 2 жыл бұрын
TFL truck ran the Ike gauntlet with a 2500 Limited and a 2500 Duramax. The Ram ran 9.0 mpg and the Chevy did 8.2 towing the same weight up and down the mountain. Also the engine brake works so well they didn't have to use it a single time going down the mountain edit: I mean they didn't have to use the regular brakes while running the automatic engine brake. Brain fart
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
the Cummins is built to pull. nothing wrong with the chev but if I was towing daily I would want the Cummins every time
@howardshaw3163
@howardshaw3163 2 жыл бұрын
cant comment on the cummins, i do have a 06 2500hd with 175k that has had no engine issues at all. on my 3rd set of glow plugs but still runs like a top and gets 21-23 empty and great mpg pulling my rv and sxs's.
@frostysnowman5033
@frostysnowman5033 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video!
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@dantimber
@dantimber 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I want a Cummins Ram HD but can't find one to test drive. I spend a lot of time on timbered logging roads which are notoriously rough. I don't want to get beat up OR beat the truck up. I don't tow heavy but do need the bed capacity. I have test driven a Silverado 2500 (on asphalt) and F250 (on dirt roads). I thought the Ford had a little bit better ride. I also haven't ruled out the gas versions thinking maybe the ride might be better from the lighter engines? If it matters the regular cab or double cab/super cab configurations are my preference for maneuverability.
@stephenfrancis182
@stephenfrancis182 2 жыл бұрын
Power wagon! Fucking tanks man. Go anywhere
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
really eh? well the ride quality on these rams is pretty solid. hopefully you come across one to test drive because they are really nice trucks. the ram interior is also by far the best
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
yes sir, you can drive them through just about anything!
@dantimber
@dantimber 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures I've ridden in (not driven) two different Ram 3500's. Pretty rough but they've got rear leaf springs. Ram HD's do have nicer interiors than the Silverado HD and Ford HD in my opinion.
@dantimber
@dantimber 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenfrancis182 Yeah they're the best HD off-road but I prefer the smaller regular cab/double cab/super cab configuration. Also no diesel option with the Power Wagon. May have to compromise but still hoping to drive a Ram 2500 Regular Cab with the Cummins.
@Hereford1020
@Hereford1020 2 жыл бұрын
If the truck could match the engin it would be a great combo.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Chrysler is too cheap for that common now lol
@LT11859
@LT11859 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2006 ram 2500 Cummins with 160,000 miles. Is it normal to have a slight vibration on idle on this engine?All pulleys, engine mounts checked ok and just changed the harmonic balancer on it. Thanks!
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
as long as its not outrageous, she's a 15 year old diesel and she's probably got a little rumble to her. could be a number of things, fueling, injector on the way out, when it the last time you changed your fuel filter?
@LT11859
@LT11859 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures I’ve changed the fuel filter and same results. Would adding fuel injector cleaner to the gas tank worsen it? Thanks!
@LoneWolf-cf5tp
@LoneWolf-cf5tp 2 жыл бұрын
If u have hard starts and smoke it’s a bad injector. I put 8 ounces of Lucas injector cleaner every fill up in my 06 and have always used it in my previous trucks. I had an 04 common rail that has 320k with original injectors, which is almost unheard of for a common rail truck. IMO Lucas is a great product and so is hotshots injector cleaner but Lucas is cheaper.
@LT11859
@LT11859 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoneWolf-cf5tp it starts pretty quick but I’ll try using Lucas see if that helps. Thanks!
@rowmacg
@rowmacg 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 RAM 5500 with 330,000 miles on it, every time it starts to run a little rough I add Hot Shot Secret Diesel Extreme and it smooths the running of the engine every time. Diesel fuel is pretty dirty with lots of carbon it doesn’t take long for carbon to build up, even with mostly highway driving! You’ll see a lot of ash building up on the inside of your tailpipe when add Hot Secret cleaner to your fuel, you know it’s doing it’s job, it’s great to see!
@mcar6592
@mcar6592 2 жыл бұрын
I got stuck with a 2020 6.7 with a CP4 that cratered. It’s fixed (took 3 weeks). Other than that, it pulls my 20k 5th wheel quickly and exhaust braking is excellent.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
ya the cp4 is garbage. hate to say it
@46fd04
@46fd04 2 жыл бұрын
@M Car, my 2019 has been recalled because of the fuel pump. No replacement part available. Do you think mine is a CP4? Did RAM install another CP4 in your 2020 truck, or the new, redesigned pump, which I'm told has not yet been built?
@kavik526town2
@kavik526town2 Жыл бұрын
@@46fd04 this is late but yes 2019-2020 Ram 6.7 have the CP4. Ford powerstroke 2011-current have the CP4 & duramax 2011-current have the CP4. Huge lawsuit on the way.
@46fd04
@46fd04 Жыл бұрын
@@kavik526town2 RAM replaced by fuel pump under warranty in Dec.2022. So far, I haven't noticed a difference in pulling power.
@kavik526town2
@kavik526town2 Жыл бұрын
@@46fd04 You wont notice anything other than the engine not taking a dump prematurely.
@kenhowell2280
@kenhowell2280 2 жыл бұрын
Huge Cummins fan but the Duramax is in the new military assault vehicals. Mostly for speed and Allison transmission.
@CaptDavesSportfishing
@CaptDavesSportfishing Жыл бұрын
The 2008 was the greatest, in recent history. Because it was so EZ to drop 500 pounds on a afternoon for $500 . And what ya got was a total deleted truck with a 6.7 that will last and last with no issues ever. Love it! Would NEVER EVER buy a newer one.
@B.C.EpicExplorer
@B.C.EpicExplorer Жыл бұрын
The bosch injectors desgined for billlions of injections blows my mind very similar engines in most of the city busses as well.
@Taras-Nabad
@Taras-Nabad 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@oliverallen5324
@oliverallen5324 2 жыл бұрын
This explains why my ambulances broke down so much.
@johnprendergast6741
@johnprendergast6741 Жыл бұрын
I have a 21 Ram 1500 limited 5.7 hemi.. nice truck, rides like an expensive car. Just got a new Ram 2500 with Cummings for work ... the 1500 stays home most days 😆
@josemejia6645
@josemejia6645 2 жыл бұрын
The Engines are good for someone that still turns their own wrenches and wants to do some of their own maintenance. There are however some design flaws when it comes to placing them in a RAM. Ridiculous placement of an oil filter, why wasn't an oil filter relocation thought of for it?! Fuel filter right on the Engine where it's difficult to get at from either angle unless you remove the wheel well cover on the driver's side. That couldn't have been relocated to the frame somewhere? At least the filter at the tank is one you can work with without so much stuff in the way. The transmissions that FCA chose for the RAMs are garbage and in no way represent what a HD transmission is nor do they even get a mention in that class. The Cummins is being murdered by the dumb torque management software from the TCM in between shifts. What a way to destroy a well balanced diesel by constantly derating it between shifts to prevent transmission damage because the engine is such a torque beast. If it's such a torque beast why not mate it to a transmission that can actually handle it?! I own a 2014 RAM 3500 and never in my life have I had such a displeasure in how a transmission shifts and the constant rattle of the engine while the transmission is shifting due to derating!
@Eric2300jeep
@Eric2300jeep 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm the OEM fuel filter location on my '03 is on the firewall, not on the engine... I thought they stopped putting the filters on the engine on the 2nd gens? It only takes me less than 3-4 minutes to change my factory mounted one plus the 2micron CAT filter I added after it. Definitely agree with you on the trans issues. That's why I bought a manual truck. Throw on a South Bend clutch rated for 900ft/lbs of torque and you're good to go! Feels almost identical to the OEM clutch
@892guns
@892guns 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, when has any manufacturer but anything in an accessible place now a days.
@prestonfaust4267
@prestonfaust4267 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be cool to see the same red top 6.7 cummins in the ram trucks instead of a slightly different engine...thinking about that, don't you think it would have even more reliability because it is detuned? And some savings because they are using the same engine for various applications?
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Ya it would be a very sturdy engine. I think the issue is with the passenger vehicle market is the marketing teams are always trying to one up the competition. So I feel like in order to sell more trucks they go with a much more tuned up version and people somehow think they are getting a better engine. even though the old 5.9 Cummins had like 150 horse but would last a lifetime.
@case7214
@case7214 2 жыл бұрын
What your opinion on the 68rfe behind that amazing Cummins?
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
not great to be honest. and I think RAM knows it. rumor is that they are either going to go with a heavy spec 8 or 10 speed ZF, or go with an allison. GM's exclusive contract is up and I think RAM is trying to get on board with them. makes sense because alot of medium duty trucks with a cummins ISB (6.7) come with an allison behind it. so it would be an easy transition
@King_Pin_Designs
@King_Pin_Designs 2 жыл бұрын
Cummins is definitely the best race engine just by cost and reliability. Cummins rules the drag racing and dyno competitions in the diesel world right now.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
fair enough! didn't know that.
@stone9882
@stone9882 Жыл бұрын
.....No it doesn't
@countcuda70
@countcuda70 2 жыл бұрын
Duramax is in GM's medium duty trucks. The T444E are in mass transit and school buses. If it weren't for emissions. Ford may never have gotten rid of the 7.3 To many what ifs to compare them this way. The 6.7 Cummins is pretty hard on head gaskets. Not as bad has the LLY but with studs you're good with either. The Cummins is a good engine but this was a pretty bias review. The 6.7 Cummins actually makes it's max torque at a higher RPM the the Duramax. 1800 rpm vs 1600 rpm. Yes, Cummins has a higher max torque currently. We will see when the new Duramax is announced.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
I mean they just are better engines bias or not. obviously not perfect engines but they are built to take abuse in a commercial applications. As far as the Duramax making max torque at lower rpms I'd be interested at the whole torque curve. Big rigs are shifting gears at 1500 rpm. 1800rpm is getting close to an over speed on those big diesels. my points is diesels like to work between 600-1200 rpms. what's the torque curve at those rpms. I would imagine these modern engines are pretty similar but it would be interesting to see. I have nothing against the Duramax or Powerstroke. This video was intended to just highlight why the Cummins is a good engine. But as you pointed out my bias was probably very obvious lol
@countcuda70
@countcuda70 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures Can't compare big rig engines and these truck engines together. RPM ranges are way different. I didn't say the Cummins was a bad engine. If that's how I came through, my bad. The Cummins is a good engine but in the hd truck market. The Duramax and Powerstroke are very competitive. Years ago the Cummins had an advantage but in today's market not so much. They're all pretty good.
@chucknSC
@chucknSC 2 жыл бұрын
You can make torque at whatever RPM you set up the turbo for.
@jc7654
@jc7654 2 жыл бұрын
great information on the Cummins, but Scania makes a 16lt v8 diesel that's in their big rigs
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
So there is one eh. Figured someone would gig an engine up that was a v8. I wonder why they decided to go with thay configuration. I'll have to take a look into it! Thank you for the info
@jonasgussvattnet
@jonasgussvattnet 2 жыл бұрын
Scania V8 pushing 770hp now 😃
@dustinhunt6764
@dustinhunt6764 2 жыл бұрын
Cat made V8 for semi and its very sought after and powerful.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
I mean ya at one point they did but the C13 and C15 were way better engines for the application. Detroit diesel also made a bunch of V8's which were sick engines
@parexc07
@parexc07 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures ....Those Older CAT 3408 V8, the die-hard guys still run those every day down the highway.
@natey891
@natey891 2 жыл бұрын
What year did they switch to a CP3? Is it really that much better than a CP4?
@jaked964
@jaked964 2 жыл бұрын
Cp4 pumps wear out and grenade, wiping almost the whole fuel system out. Cp4 pumps are complete junk. They don’t make Cp4 to cp3 conversions for no reason lol
@pmtips4482
@pmtips4482 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 2017 RAM 6.7 Cummins, except the knocking sound at times and the 6 times normal iron content in the engine oil.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
well that's no good. sounds like she's done for.
@HvyMetal4Ever
@HvyMetal4Ever Жыл бұрын
The only thing keep that 3/4 and 1 ton from being perfect is that transmission. If they can get an Allison bolted up to that, it would be an unstoppable monster. At least in my eyes anyway. I'm looking at finally pulling the trigger on a 3/4 ton beast to replace my ecoboost F series. I've had a temotelous relationship with Dodge in the past, but I cannot overlook just how good that Cummins is. I may just have order me up a mega cab.
@paulc3455
@paulc3455 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 12 6.7 cummins and haul rvs for a living I know quite a few that stock head gaskets go due to bigger pistons and less sealing surface on head gasket so they need to be head studs and quality gasket or fire ring them .
@tivologisticsllc4188
@tivologisticsllc4188 Жыл бұрын
Good video bro
@edward1967able
@edward1967able 2 жыл бұрын
Thank s for the video, I’m looking to buy a 2011 Laramie 4x4 2500 with a 135k miles on it for $36k , you think it’s a good buy ?
@corycordovado4420
@corycordovado4420 Жыл бұрын
You Should look into the BMW Diesel M57 inline 6, they run compound turbos from factory. Very interesting engines even though they aren't a truck engine.
@joshhall1310
@joshhall1310 2 жыл бұрын
The duramax comes in a lot of vehicles including the new military vehicle to replace the hummer
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
well that's because GM has the contract. but okay fair. I personally don't know any commercial trucks or buses that run a Duramax. And I've seen a lot of trucks over the years.
@kuyaali956
@kuyaali956 2 жыл бұрын
To top it off, the military always shoots for the cheaper contract.
@joshhall1310
@joshhall1310 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they do We had a lot of Cummins engine's in the military I'm not saying Cummins is bad they're great but they put duramax in different stuff also.
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshhall1310All good sir all fair points! I have nothing against the Duramax, just have never seen one in anything put a chev pick up.
@snipersam204
@snipersam204 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures duramax won the contract after extensive testing with all bidders. Reliability was #1
@shaunarchangel3872
@shaunarchangel3872 10 ай бұрын
They are most likely the most dependable. They are more fuel efficient as well . The powestroke though is the most powerful diesel engine in the pickups. Also the most costly to maintain compared to the cummins, which is easier to work on to.
@jimm2442
@jimm2442 2 жыл бұрын
The L5P Duramax is slightly over square but the 6.7 Powerstroke is not. It’s stroke is longer than it’s bore diameter.
@jimh2061
@jimh2061 2 жыл бұрын
Well you've almost got me sold. Only problem is the 80k dollar price tag.
@buffboy1988
@buffboy1988 2 жыл бұрын
Stock the Cummins is under powered, I have a 2015 Cummins and a 2012 powerstroke and the powerstroke walks circles around the Cummins when pulling, overall power, how fast they get up to hwy hwy speeds. I just like the looks of the dodge more.also my Cummins had to have a new motor at 47k miles do to a spun bearing. Thank god for a warranty.
@oldscoolcooldiecast1879
@oldscoolcooldiecast1879 2 жыл бұрын
Six in a row is best for tow I agree brother
@TheGettyAdventures
@TheGettyAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir!
@jerrykovar
@jerrykovar Жыл бұрын
. That said... I love my Cummins 6.7
@RaulGarcia-cg3vn
@RaulGarcia-cg3vn 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the 5.0 v8 that the titan has? Thanks
@TheStrafendestroy
@TheStrafendestroy Жыл бұрын
Looking for a reliable diesel engine with a good transmission what years of models should i look for
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