Rambo Amadeus Made Monetary Policy Funky

In 2012, one of Eurovision’s fiercest critics came to Eurovision to bomb, and succeeded in spectacular fashion. NOTE: Rambo's father was Ilija Pusic, not Dragoslav Srejovic. Ilija was also an archeologist but I don't believe he had his own postage stamp. Belgrade City Museum, please correct your webpage.
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[@zhenia2511]

The best thing about Eurovision is that you need to do geopolitics research to understand the depths of some songs and scandals whereas others are so generic and trashy it's hard to believe somebody made them.

[@motherofslavs8761]

And when you watch typical Western centric Eurovision reactions and commentary they just prove Rambos point. Take for example this years entries that are deep but land on flat ears revealing the western commentary communities very closed minds, poor geo political and cultural knowledge of Europe as a whole and just general dumbness all while trying to position themselves as some kind of eurovision authorities. Let3, 5minust and puulup, Joost, Konstrakta, Marina Satti, Ladaniva...those are all smart cultural and political commentary songs/videos considered joke entries, or, too ethnic. It always amazes me how everything european that does not strictly bend to Western European standards is considered a joke. p.s. Serbias Loco Loco from few years ago is literal Turbofolk.

[@zhenia2511]

@@motherofslavs8761 There was this video essay called "Eurovision and the Queer Politics" (I think) by verilybitchy here on YT. And it's far from perfect but it captures some of the ignorant, xenophobic mindset Westerners can have and this prejudice with progressive window-dressing quite well even though it's made by a Brit. (Her co-writer is Slavic, I think, though).

[@huskytail]

And the votes

[@ButIamAStick]

Isn't that just like life it self? Deep and Shallow at the same time

[@JesseKuiper]

In many European languages the word for "illiterate" is a cognate of "analphabetic" so an illiterate person from a random European country might actually say "analphabetic " instead of "illiterate" when speaking English.

[@hyperssr]

He always stayed cool, like a swimming pool

[@garvani]

Eurovision is the world's most favourite fancy cake stuffed with many political ingredients inside

[@TheNashNetwork]

Not the ending I expected :0

[@Sim0n98]

Never clicked a video so fast

[@zooom99m]

Dragoslav Srejovic is definitely not related to Rambo Amadeus. :) His father is Ilija Pusic, who was the head of a museum in Herceg Novi and also an archeologist. For everything else, you all did a great job.

[@overthinkingit]

Thank you. The information about Dragoslav Srejovic was from an interview with Rambo by the Belgrade City Museum, I guess they were confused. I'll make a note in the description. vincaculture.rs/en/interview-antonije-pusic-aka-rambo-amadeus/

[@milenasovic]

So, it took more than a decade for you all to understand what he was singing about 🙃

[@ESCVerso]

I always knew this entry was iconic, but I never realized *how* iconic. Great video. There's so much context to this. Sucks the way the story ends.

[@paulojrneto]

Euro Neuro still got 12 points from Albania.

[@SebastianSosnowski]

Thanks for this episode! You might have missed relevant information: Montenegro, despite not being in EU, use euro as their currency. This limited their possibilities to control the effects of 2008 crisis (as euro is controlled by EU-based bank). Euro-Neuro might also be the reaction for how ECB handled the crisis.

[@cfcwhite]

How does the EU central bank allow this? Looks like they’ve adopted the Euro unilaterally. I spent last summer in Montenegro and couldn’t help but wonder.

[@JuliaSanchez-zn3kw]

​@@cfcwhite I suppose that the same as American dollars are sometimes used in Venezuela as currency because it doesn't devaluate

[@najrenchelf2751]

I think my favourite thing about this whole Euro Neuro stunt is that this song opened that first semi final - he basically was the first artist on stage for the live shows... what a twist! XD

[@Charlizzie]

The Original Euro Papa. Right. There.

[@VY_Canis_Majoris]

Europapa if it was good

[@wibbliams]

How dare you europapa is incredible ​@@VY_Canis_Majoris

[@sonjaradovic8499]

Dear Overthinking it, loved the video, but you have made an oversight when it comes to the name of Rambo's father. He is, in fact, the son of Ilija Pušić, not Dragoslav Srejović. Both of his parents (Bosiljka and Ilija) were teachers, and lived in the small coastal town Herceg Novi (Montenegro). Very cool analysis I must say. I tip my hat to the effort. Best wishes, gentlemen!

[@overthinkingit]

Thank you for the kind words and for the correction, I was going off a source that seemed reliable. I posted a note in the description.

[@sonjaradovic8499]

@@overthinkingit You are most welcome. Thanks for all the incredible content you made for the fans. I always have fun listening to your clips. They are both fun and informative. Lots of love from Serbia.

[@maxx6299]

Praises and high fives for showing the poster of Francesco Gabbani's Occidentali's Karma CD cover (Italy 2017) on Matthew Belinkie room...Somewhere in the world a naked ape is dancing!

[@overthinkingit]

As you can imagine, that song was my favorite that year: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZDGaX6HeLufodk

[@maxx6299]

@@overthinkingit btw, are you reacting to La Noia?

[@overthinkingit]

Sadly we're not going to get to it, except maybe briefly in a general wrapup video. Just no time to hit everything. I had a couple half-baked thoughts about it (boredom is a really interesting topic for a song) but other things came together first.

[@DraganKrstic]

Rambo named "Turbo-Folk" somewhere in late '80s as name for his post-modernist music. Also, it should be noted that, at that time, Montenegro tried to make some success in ESC by sending well known stars: Rambo, Who See (with the most epic drop in the history if ESC), Knez, Sergej Ćetković... probably thinking that the rest of the ex-YU countries will vote for them.

[@DraganKrstic]

@Hendek746 San Marino is even smaller

[@klasicharka]

Kudos for mentioning the harassments conviction, I was afraid you wouldn't. Great video, but although Dragoslav Srejović was a really cool dude, and more people should know about him, I hate to burst your bubble - he was not Rambo's father :) I'm so curious, where did you find that info?

[@overthinkingit]

It was in an interview with Rambo conducted by the Belgrade City Museum! The question to him was, "Your father was great archaeologist and anthropologist Dragoslav Srejović, who was Miloje Vasić’s colleague. He worked for the Archaeological Institute. How often did you work together and what did you learn from him about archaeology?" And he doesn't correct them! vincaculture.rs/en/interview-antonije-pusic-aka-rambo-amadeus/ Anyway, I'm annoyed but I appreciate the correction.

[@klasicharka]

@@overthinkingit This is a legit site, but they made a mistake in translation. In the Serbian version it says "Your father was a colleague of the great archaeologist and anthropologist Dragoslav Srejović, who was Miloje Vasić's colleague." So I guess its our bad (I happen to be a Serbian archaeologist as well :) )

[@overthinkingit]

@@klasicharka Okay mystery solved. This is why fact-checking really requires two sources. One of my first jobs was doing research for the sports network ESPN, and I was incredulous when a producer made me find two sources for "Michael Jordan is a good basketball player." But now I appreciate that mindset. Don't assume you know ANYTHING. Every fact gets checked, because once you decide some of your information can't possibly be wrong, it's only a matter of time before you let something slide. That's not a standard I can keep up for this channel of course, I'm spread pretty thin and the stakes are low. But it's good advice for the serious researchers out there!

[@zelenozubi]

rambo is great balkan artist, but balkan dont give a shit about art. great video, you become serious 😎👍

[@Snowshowslow]

I think this is the first of the history videos that features an act I had no idea existed. And I'm still not sure whether that was a good or a bad thing 😂

[@egyptianhibiscus9203]

Rambo is a legend in the whole former Yugoslavia since 80's :)

[@PapaVanTwee5]

I think my favorite Montenegran song in Eurovision came in 2013, Who See (with Nina Žižić) - Igranka. I still don't know what it's about, but it's just wild. And Who See is stillmaking insane music, too.

[@TheMightyKinkle]

One of my favourite Eurovision songs!

[@daniozombio]

How many Eurovision entries have ties to cultural anthropology? (I read the note about the mix up but it still got me thinking...)

[@berlineczka]

A similar sentiment was expressed in In Culto's Eastern European Funk.

[@BleedingEdgeOfProgress]

You should do one on Georgia's "Three Minutes to Earth", the most musically advanced entry ever.

[@jorgkunischewski9363]

Nah, joining the EU is more like getting into Berghain, you have to be there at the right time, with the right Attitude and you have to master the secret Code of being cool...

[@karadanos2883]

Exactly what Greece did to get into the eurozone with its "creative accounting" lol

[@randomgamer-te8op]

LIKE A SWIMMING POOL

[@wesleyhunt7599]

The best "worst entry" ever.

[@pasoska_kontrola]

He made an another song with a similar (I think?) thematic called ‘Oda radosti - anegdote evrointegracija’ (The ode to joy - anecdotes from the eurointegration process). I think it would be interesting to analyze that as well.

[@crow22zero]

An in depth video from over ten years ago about a country I can’t even locate on the map? Hell yeah, let’s go ✌️😂

[@egyptianhibiscus9203]

A country worth visiting :) Search Budva, Herceg Novi, Sveti Stefan

[@bassetts1899]

I remember voting for this song, I was desperate for it to get through to the final. It was so bonkers I loved it. Still love it! It resonated with me as a Greek 😅

[@TheJMaqExperience]

The lowkey best part of Euro Neuro is the unnecessary bass solo thrown in after one line of the first verse.

[@dirofreak]

"No politics rule" really became "No disrepute" rule from 2021 however, because it became less about "what is politics and what isn't" (a concept that used to work very well) but "what would put the contest into disrepute based on a consensus from broadcasters and international politics" (which is quite different and the concept really is political (way less neutral than it used to be at least) ) Of course officially it's still a "no politics rule", but what the EBU defines as politics or not became a bit arbitrary (like considering the belarussian entries from 2021 as "political" (while really they weren't more political than many borderline entries in the past ("Push the button" (Israel 2007) , "1944" (Ukraine 2016) being the most blatant example) ... and in the future , by allowing "Mama SC" (Croatia 2023) without any question (besides asking the band to remove the nuclear signs from those rockets on stage ). While the true reasons behind the decisions are very political (many broadcasters wanted the belarussian broadcaster out in 2021 far before they had submitted any songs and before the broadcaster or the Belarussian government faced their sanctions because of the plane incident at the end of May 2021 and the many interviews under pressure (even if they were starting to be a thing and the EBU was monitoring it), and i'm pretty convinced that if their entries had been sent by let's say Latvia they would have been fair game. I still believe the Belarussian exclusion should have happened after the 2021 contest for all of those reasons (and the Russian exclusion in 2022 a tad later than when it actually happened, but the sanctions on russian broadcasters that were decided at the start of May 2022 would have made their participation impossible anyways)) A great video about all of this rather hypocritical situation is " The [Queer] Politics of Eurovision " by verilybitchie (on KZbin :p) (also reminds us that the UK wasn't expelled in 2003 while they were part of a Ira k war technically :p (and rightfully so because it's a song contest)) NB: also Euro Neuro is epic and in my opinion was always the reason that some kind of random draw for running order should still be in place (at least for the openers and the closers in the semi), it's really a shame that producers basically removed any room for "unconventional surprises that end up being great" (we still see that at Junior Eurovision for example where songs like Portugal 2021 would have likely been randomly placed in the first few spots by producers if they hadn't drawn their right to perform last in the running order :p, or even Georgia 2016 which is something that arguably secured their win , specially when their biggest competition (Armenia) was , on the contrary, been given a terrible spot by producers (that's why i think there should be "thirds" instead of halves in the finals of both JESC and ESC and "quarters" in the ESC semis, as well as a random draw for first and last performer in the ESC semis and the JESC final but i digress (and sadly producers are changing rules to do the exact opposite, ESC 2024 added that "producer's choice" thing that makes it even less random (and unfair (the fact the JESC running order is basically fully decided by producers besides the opener ,closer and host spots is a real shame)))

[@dancansubito8250]

Nice Aldi polo shirt! 🦄

[@overthinkingit]

It really is.

[@johannes_floehr]

I love Eurovision for it's cheesy pop music - and then there are stories like THIS.

[@metalvisionsongcontest7055]

Yeah, the link between the swimming pool and No Rules! was pretty obvious 😁…

[@Cewu]

Rambo is a crazy fk XD

[@rutholdfield3679]

BUT CAN YOU SING IT??????? (EEEH-uroh!, NEY-uroh!)

[@riahlexington]

He apologized on Facebook? Lmfao

[@thedistracteddoctor]

Hi guys. Love the channel and I’m delighted that you are looking at past Eurovision songs and their stories. Suggestion: I think that Ukraine’s first winning entry ‘ wild dances’ and their follow-up song ‘razóm nas bahato’ would make a good episode as it reflects the evolving political climate of that time in the Ukraine.

[@hottramp]

Love it! Especially the Trojan Donkey. Let 3 were my favs last year.