Pantorouter Large shop made templates

[@garrydye2394]

I said this a few years ago but this is by far the most under rated & under appreciated channel on youtube. On a side note...a 3D printer might work very well in this instance too if you can 3D design fairly fast and just put the infill up to 100%. And if anybody doesn't know how to 3D model....don't worry....AI is coming and soon you will just be able to type in a box: 3 inch by 2 inch rectangle with 10 degree etc. etc.

[@ramonartful]

Thanks so much…I appreciate that. And yeah, perfect application for a 3D printer!

[@macsheldon]

Ramon, you never cease to amaze us all! It's so kind of you to take your time to share your process and the decades of experience required to forge the master craftsman you are. It's not always that a highly skilled technician is also a brilliant and thoughtful designer, but you have mastered both. I love your design aesthetic and I'm always comforted by the subtle details that define your furniture as works of art. It's an honor for you to use the PantoRouter in your work and it's our privilege to get to work with you and receive your feedback and guidance for continuous improvement to the PantoRouter and accessories. Thank you, Ramon!

[@ramonartful]

Dang Mac…this certainly made my day! It’s always a fun process when I’m using the Pantorouter. It makes mortise and tenon joints (and many others!) super easy…remarkably fast, accurate and always fun! I appreciate the good words and thanks a ton for your passion to create a quality product!

[@lldrum10]

When you first pulled the tenon out of the mortise after the initial dry fit it sounded like a merfkin cork-gun. 🐐

[@ramonartful]

Right!? Pop! It sounds good, but a little too tight. I shaved it a tad. Thanks

[@joelrob8606]

Merci. Vous êtes un SUPER "Chef" 😂😂. FélicitationSSSSS

[@ramonartful]

😆 ¡Gracias por ver el video! 🙏🏼

[@handymadness]

Unbelievable Ramon. Like crazy.

[@ramonartful]

Thank you. Fun project!

[@bluepeakworkworking]

Wow, what a gorgeous door, Ramon! Superb workmanship and instruction. Thanks for sharing.

[@ramonartful]

Thank you! Super fun project

[@jasondarr5911]

Nice work. Learned an awful lot about my Pantorouter. Just awesome

[@ramonartful]

I really appreciate that! If you get a chance, share with your friends. 🙏🏼

[@stevenrobinson9610]

13:14 What an amazing strong mortise and tenon joint!!!! Jaw dropping amazing.... hope it works as good as I believe it will....

[@ramonartful]

Thank you! It was fun to make that door! I had a chance to see it recently and still looks great and strong! 😬

[@billedis5482]

Ramon, you are a master, I love your videos and all the great instruction. Thank you!

[@ramonartful]

Thank you tons…I appreciate the positive feedback!

[@oldschoolsmart]

Great work, great narration, and wonderful details, thank you!

[@ramonartful]

I appreciate the good words and feedback!

[@a91customs]

Great instruction as always! How did you get the 10 deg. taper on the curved ends of the template. Did you cut the full length steps that fit into the groove on the tenons with the Pantorouter?

[@ramonartful]

I figured that the curved ends of the mortise/tenons aren’t critical (end grain contact or slack at these areas ) so I simply tilted my edge sander to shape the 10° radius. The part of that tenon that corresponds with the mortise (groove for the panel) and the shoulder, etc was cut at the table saw. Starts at about 10:55 in the video. Thanks

[@Dominatoruke]

Great stuff, Ramon.

[@ramonartful]

Thanks Dom!

[@drmkiwi]

All good, thanks for the tips. At around the 9:50 you talk about using a block to reset the fence later and then add long strips of tape to the fence to effectively move the the fence closer to the blade. Instead of all that tape along the fence could you just put a small piece on the end of the block you used to set the fence? Really appreciate the lengths you go to help other woodworkers. Cheers, David

[@ramonartful]

Yes…you’re smart. In hind sight a singe piece of tape would have worked. Thanks

[@jtown778]

nice man looks good

[@ramonartful]

Thanks! Fun and easy to make!

[@davidbedrosian1567]

One more question... Did you drawbore the joints? And one more comment... The door looks amazing so it is no surprise that the customer was thrilled.

[@ramonartful]

I thought about drawboring the tenons but I believe with epoxy and since this door has little stress (barn door) I wanted the “cleaner” look. 🙏🏼

[@edwinsantos7673]

Hi Ramon, new Pantorouter owner here, I appreciate the template making part of this video! Quick question - would the inner recess of the template used for mortising be about 7/8" in height? Is this correct? I'm trying to get the calculations straight. Also, love the little spacer for quickly setting up the tenon stock overhanging the table. Good way to get back to position if needed.

[@ramonartful]

Hello Edwin ! Yes…that’s right. In hindsight, I should have drawn the math for the mortise…but you’re smart and figured it out! Much thanks.

[@eatdrinkwineguy]

Brilliant! I really want a Pantorouter now. Lots of other great tips and tricks too. Always thinking outside the box it seems. Parfect!

[@ramonartful]

Thanks a ton Myles! The Pantorouter is such an incredible and super versatile machine!

[@dinesharya5490]

Great sirji

[@ramonartful]

Thank you!

[@johnrice6793]

Dude! Nice informative video with that too often missing (from others) right on splashes of humor!!

[@ramonartful]

Thanks for the feedback! 🙏🏼

[@davidbedrosian1567]

Superb video, Ramon. There were so many great tips in this video (as in all of your other videos as well). As with you, I love using spacer blocks since they are so much easier than measuring. The vertical template idea to avoid routing into the second tenon is one I will need to remember. I also like that little offset block from the front of the pantorouter table. I have not had a need to make my own templates for the PantoRouter, but this video shows that it can be done fairly easily which is nice. Did you consider using the Shaper Origin to rout out the inside cavity for cutting the mortise? Thanks as always for the great work.

[@ramonartful]

Hey David …thank you so much. I needed quite a deep mortise, so I thought the Pantorouter was the right machine for this application, since I have fairly long 1/2” bits. The simple little block works well but for smaller pieces I thought your method was perfect!

[@anthonycddb]

great video, how well does this router compare to the Multi-router by woodpecker?, Thanks, Antony

[@ramonartful]

Hey Anthony I used a JMS Multirouter a few times years ago at a woodworking school. It was awesome! The wood moved on the table to make the cuts. I could see that as an issue if you had long parts. Not so with the Pantorouter since the wood stays still. In this video I mortises some long and wide boards easily! I think the Pantorouter is probably easier to use, much more versatile and with a much larger selection of templates. The Multirouter is more robust although the construction of the Pantorouter has never been an issue. Thanks

[@anthonycddb]

@@ramonartful Thank you so much for your reply! You really explain your process extremely well , And you truly are a gifted carpenter! Awesome stuff!

[@PATHFNDR21]

Wonderful video, thank you. What epoxy did you use?

[@ramonartful]

Thanks! I used West Systems.

[@streamingezapkslivetv5931]

hey Ramon i watch all your videos i love your work ,i have a question on what brand is that table saw fence you show in the minute 8:44 of this video , i have a sliding table saw but my fence in crap , can you pass me the info on were i can get one like yours , thank you in advance

[@ramonartful]

Well…bad news really. It’s a Delta Unifence…but it’s no longer being made. I suppose one could search eBay. Thanks

[@streamingezapkslivetv5931]

@@ramonartful Really o man , can you spare the model number for the search pls , thank you so much to take the time on reply. you are the best

[@ramonartful]

@@streamingezapkslivetv5931 So I just looked...no model number on the fence. "Delta Unifence" search did show one on Ebay that recently sold...so they are out there. I'd make sure that you can find rails as well and that it would in fact, fit your saw prior to purchase, yeah? Thanks

[@streamingezapkslivetv5931]

@@ramonartful yes i check ebay after your recommendations and i purchase one there that one you mentioned sold was me . thank you i hope i like it better than the one i have now

[@billystray7007]

Ever use a "multi router." ? I've wanted one for years, but i can't pull the trigger with this pantorouter around ,...

[@ramonartful]

I did years ago. So when I first got the Pantorouter, it felt awkward to move the motor rather than the workpiece. (Actually I think you can move it either way with the Multirouter) But set up is super slow with the Multirouter! Once you calibrate the Pantorouter (which is very quick) set up is super fast and accurate. I looooove the Pantorouter…such a versatile machine! I just recently used it to create a bunch of M & Ts of various sizes. Thanks

[@praveenpatel181]

Is 6inch tenon possible on this panto router machine

[@ramonartful]

I think the longest I made was a 4 1/2”. 6” is a large tenon! Maybe a different machine would be better. Thanks

[@kenf2662]

By the looks you have done architectural drawing before.

[@ramonartful]

Actually, I never did! But I have dealt with blueprints for decades…it wore off on me 😬