Ramping Up Production

[@shrouddreamer]

Even simply looking at the incarceration rate of the US compared to other countries is enough to notice that something is off. Prisons are supposed to reintegrate people into society throughout the duration of punishment, not to generate cheap labour.

[@zombiebadgr]

Do not let this man go to Central America

[@justseffstuff3308]

@@zombiebadgrIf the only way to make America look good is by comparing it to much less developed countries, that's not a good sign. It's like saying "well, if you think my IQ is bad, look at this 6 year old! Clearly my IQ is great!"

[@zombiebadgr]

@@justseffstuff3308 What- I never said any of that... all I said is that Central America has like, really bad prisons.

[@waffler-yz3gw]

@@justseffstuff3308if america is better than other countries, america good. take that commie liberal leftist nazi uhhhh NERD

[@hasanmuttaqin464]

​@@zombiebadgr it kinda sounds like( key point: sounds like) you implied that america is not that bad since central america is worse, and saying that something is good because something else is worse is kinda like saying "well, if you think my IQ is bad, look at this 6 year old! Clearly my IQ is great!"

[@cassie-does-things]

Oh boy I sure do love the prison industrial complex.

[@mrfigaloopierre9610]

Ah yes, the second generation of neo-slavery

[@TheBronzeDog]

Remember some city complaining that they weren't getting enough people put in prison, causing a shortage of cheap labor that was going to collapse the local economy... If your society can't function because there weren't enough allegedly bad people to do the work on discount, I hate to break it to you, but that's unsustainable and perverse.

[@cherenkov_blue]

It's just depressing that's there's been no major national effort to close the prison loophole. Like, the long term goal should be prison abolition, but we could at least make it harder right now to profit from prison labor (requiring fair prison wages, expanding and protecting the rights of inmates, and so on). Unfortunately, that still has a snowball's chance in hell of passing.

[@Skullhawk13]

Prison isn’t something to abolish. It’s a good thing in civilized countries to reform criminals. The problem we have in the states is people care more about punishing crime than reducing it. Several countries have essentially so little repeat offenders it’s newsworthy if one occurs. Rehabilitation is important.

[@cherenkov_blue]

@@Skullhawk13 I said "prison abolition is a long term goal" specifically because it's not really something that's immediately feasible. I agree that reducing recidivism should be a short term priority, I just go one step further in saying that prisons should be abolished at some point (private prisons sooner rather than later).

[@Skullhawk13]

@@cherenkov_blue so what are you suggesting, total anarchy with zero accountability at all?

[@tunnelsnakesrule7541]

I think more countries should definitely try to actually keep people out of prison. Too many countries are focused on the punishment but not the reform, because it's not just the US (but it is the biggest example). This should be a precedent and not something only a few countries are doing

[@Helehache]

​@@Skullhawk13 No, they already mentioned justice should be rehabilitative. So even if they're anarchist internally, they're acting more like reformists.

[@kendi5391]

God Bless America!

[@TheBronzeDog]

Someone, with a bit of vitriol, asked for a Democrat version. My take: Young Person: "I want-" Democrat: "Pfft! Be realistic! We can't risk alienating the swing voters by making campaign promises to help people!"

[@kierangorman3052]

The American government didn't abolish slavery. They just nationalised it and made it more efficient.

[@JimBimBum]

i wonder who sold them those people. "Seriously look into this."

[@StarShapedPie]

I like serious topics with these cute adorable antro fellas

[@genericyoutubecommenter589]

a little bit of furry art helps the medicine go down

[@nathanalexander5598]

THEY ARE TRYING TO BUILD A PRISON

[@SanvelloSerapiega]

For a TLDR: Fuck Steven Prator, the utilization of prisoners for cheap coerced labor distorts the moral conscious. I originally made a comment referring to Steven Prator talking about how he was against releasing good inmates on the grounds it was necessary for the state. I wanted to update my comment with sources (i think this deleted my comment). Steven Prator didn't say they need his slaves for the state economy. He said he needed his slaves to save tax payers money and to fund his institutions. This is Louisiana Steve prator is a major figure in sheriff appointed officials. He of course retired from a sheriffs position and became a head of parole boards to prevent future slaves from being released.

[@tuckerbowen4626]

You forgot "student athletes"

[@AkiDave]

My favorite System of a Down song

[@Bionicdodo24]

I mean depending on the crime I can understand still messed up and completely wrong

[@chongwillson972]

@Bionicdodo24 giving judges a incentive for it doesn't help things at all.

[@umjammerlammy9993]

Sure are a lot of confederates in these comments

[@e.a.k923]

butthurt marxist hands write this comment ong

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

America

[@matthewmccoyd2578]

Is it really that hard to find a good therapist? Or is it just hard to USE one?

[@PeterParkerFromEarth1048]

I know this doesn’t have anything to do with the video, BUT I have a question for you, Nora. It’s Synth your last name or something? Why did you choose to use the word Synth in the name of the channel if the voice we hear is your real voice and not a synthetic one?

[@zacharynguyen7286]

I see

[@russianoverkill3715]

Those comics are half cringe, some of them I agree with, others are obviously wrong.

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

:< D

[@derpionderpson1424]

This is like when people claim slavery made America wealthy levels of inability to understand statistics. If slavery is an industrial benefit, clearly it must have been the north who were for slavery and the south who were against it, since the north won the civil war, right? Oh wait no, it was the north who were against it, and they had a serious industrial advantage *BECAUSE* slavery actively block innovation and progress so while the south was stuck in their “cotton is king” mentality, the north steamrolled ahead to the point where the south had no chance of catching up on industrialization before the war was already over. Same shit here. If you look at the finance of prisons, the more prisoners the worse the economics, each prisoner is a cost on the prison that needs further subsidizing to be able to keep functioning. There is no economic boost by having more prisoners, only more costs so just like with where America got its wealth from, claiming slavery here is being illiterate, unscientific and quite frankly conspiratorial.

[@shrouddreamer]

That doesn't explain the high incarceration rate, though. Similar countries don't have nearly the same rate, and yet nothing seems to be done about it. If the US doesn't want this, where's the prevention? The reintegration?

[@derpionderpson1424]

@@shrouddreamer High incarceration and low reintegration doesn’t prove slavery.

[@shrouddreamer]

@@derpionderpson1424 It indicates that there's no interest in solving these problems. But if there's no benefit from prisoners and they only cost money (as you claim), why aren't people doing anything about it?

[@derpionderpson1424]

@@shrouddreamer You realize you are assuming malice where incompetence is a possibility, right? And that even as far back as Napoleon have people known this is a flawed way of thinking, because humans are more likely to simply be incompetent than actually evil. You assume that because you see high incarcerations and low reintegration, that means there is no interest and no attempts, when it is perfectly possible there is interest and attempts, they just aren't working. You need to start out with a willingness to actually follow the evidence instead of being misanthropic and assuming everything humans do are inherently evil.

[@garynumber22]

I don't get it? Are you talking about prison jobs? Because one. It is optional and two. the prisoners get paid. Which is the opposite of what slavery is. I don't see what's wrong with that?

[@aqueous5099]

Pennies for labor that is valued hundreds of times higher. Moreover prisoners collect debt by the day. It is coerced forced labor.

[@garynumber22]

@@aqueous5099 Ok I know that they're payed cheap and I'm ok with that because they living expenses are covered by the prison. But what's this debt thing you're talking about I've never heard of that?

[@aqueous5099]

@@garynumber22 that’s no different than slavery. “I’m forcefully housing you, so you get no real wage.” That’s double jeopardy. You punish someone and confine them and take away their ability to make money, then you financially exploit them and make it so they go further into poverty. Barely any of the money from the labor goes back to the state, most of it goes to a corporation through a contract with the state. It’s not even wage slavery, it’s complete exploitation worthy of the label slavery. Firstly, medical debt. If you don’t have money or someone to support you, you’ll go into medical debt in most states. Secondly, if you are in debt, it continues to rack up in prison and there’s nothing you can do about it, ensuring you to poverty for life, so again, it’s punishment even after you “did the time” only to be enslaved into cyclical poverty, only increasing your chances of recidivism. If the goal is to prevent criminality, it’s a complete failure. Lastly, most states charge you daily for staying in prisons, which becomes debt when you leave prison. The fact a person who steals food and a literal CP will get incurred the same rate is absurd. No wonder America has one of the highest recidivism rate in the world.

[@aqueous5099]

@@garynumber22 1) medical debt. 2) your debt doesn’t pause in prison, so it will just build with no way of paying it off 3) most states have a daily rate for incarcerated prisoners. Taking basically free coerced labor from prisoners and forcing them to collect more debt with no way of paying it off is exactly the reason America has one of the highest recidivism rates. That’s how poverty becomes cyclical and never goes away, forcing people into destitution and desperation. Eternally punishing criminals long after they’ve supposedly “did the time.”

[@aqueous5099]

@@garynumber22 with that said. Slavery is a fitting label. It’s no different than the coercive nature of serfdom. Paying little to nothing, they have no where else to go therefore no choice, and even worse than serfdom because when they do leave, they are left in poverty without end.

[@malickfan7461]

American prisoners are not legally viewed as property and they are still protected by the US constitution same as everyone else. I’m not saying the American prison system is perfect. It isn’t. And I suppose there is a discussion that could be had as to the ethicality of prison labor. However, trying to compare it to slavery is very intellectually dishonest and frankly pretty insulting to the memory of those that actually suffered as slaves.

[@SynthVoice]

You should genuinely look into the history of US prisons using largely black prisoners as slave labor, as well as the horrific "war on drugs" being used to mass incarcerate citizens for that slave labor. This isn't just speculation, here. It's been happening for a long time.

[@aqueous5099]

Please stop. Synth Voice is completely right. policing, sentencing, and incarceration have literally been weaponized and manipulated specifically to exploit and abuse descendants of slaves for countless decades. There is no debating this, we’ve been saying this in the black community since the start.

[@aqueous5099]

Bro, who do you think the prison industrial complex affects. Please stop. I see you are well intentioned, but you really don’t grasp the magnitude of how diabolical the poverty to prison line is.

[@SanvelloSerapiega]

Saying prison slave labor where inmates are threatened with torture or being incarcerated in thinly masqueraded institutions for reform even longer for not doing slave labor that they litterally are rented out to do is not comparable to slavery is fucking repugnantly ignorant.

[@DjDeadpig]

The left can’t meme

[@umjammerlammy9993]

And you can’t get a like that isn’t your own

[@e.a.k923]

@@umjammerlammy9993 i liked his comment , leftist cuck so ?

[@minestar2247]

Everyone else: laughing because the left's memes are hilarious This guy:lalalalalalalala I can't hear anything there is only silence and cricket noises llalalalallalaalalall

[@e.a.k923]

@@minestar2247 didn't laugh and leftist are usually walls of text or out of touch comparaisons

[@DiegoIvanSanchezOrtega]

My GOD I hate this debate No ONE IS FUNNY

[@minecraftsteve2504]

You are the true epitome of "Watching your favorite KZbinr grow progressively more and more annoying, and making the heartbreaking decision to finally unsubscribe"

[@cassie-does-things]

Bruh she's doing the same thing she's always done, dubbing comics. If you can't handle some politics then maybe you should get off the internet.

[@josiadorthestrong1031]

More like watching your favourite KZbinr grow more and more based.

[@cherenkov_blue]

"Watching your favorite youtuber grow progressively more based and make the easy decision to stay subscribed" FTFY.

[@cassie-does-things]

@@josiadorthestrong1031 True

[@umjammerlammy9993]

Did you just say that you think commentary on modern slavery is annoying? Are you like, pro slavery or something?

[@historiasdeinternet2585]

No? It isn't? I'm begging you to go outside and touch grass little homie.

[@yourface2464]

Me when prison overcrowding Me when privatized prison industrial complex Me when overly harsh sentences for non-violent/victimless crimes Yeah, sure it isn't little homie

[@aqueous5099]

lil bro doesn’t know prisoners are coerced into forced labor for literal pennies 😂

[@coledoe1030]

The constitution literally says slavery is still allowed as punishment for crimes

[@yep-v7d]

​@@aqueous5099Ikr? Bro is speaking about a topic he knows nothing about, tf he means by "go touch grass" 😭😭😭

[@aqueous5099]

@@yep-v7d lmao, bro needs to go touch a history book 😂