"The View"--Elisabeth Hasselbeck Attacks Evolution

[@angelofretribution2161]

Whoopi is so creative with her words lol. "Cockroaches are a reminder never to give up" lol

[@blakeharper7]

I love how Hasselbeck uses the same argument for creationism that I would've used in 6th grade. I am not saying that anyone who believes in creationism is an idiot, I'm just saying that she is.

[@mcw8900]

Really annoys me when people dismiss evolution with comments like "It makes no sense to me". Well try watching some videos or reading some fucking books then. There's no excuse to be ignorant with such a wealth of information available to us all for free.

[@mcw8900]

but then they do read books, like the one she quoted. OK i give up

[@Thats_my_opinion_so_chill]

My favorite line of the year “cockroaches are here to remind us to never give up!” - love it lol.

[@CorinMusic2012]

Everything that Elisabeth said, sounded like she'd memorized a page from a book having never read any of the arguments against her position.

[@ericrivera8410]

All her bullet points were written by the producers

[@TheGroucho66]

Did we just witness Elizabeth Hasselbeck describe her "understanding" of Evolution via a designer shoe/bag analogy?

[@DinduMuffins]

Remember, half of the population has a below average IQ. There’s a good chance that she’s legitimately stupid.

[@MoRo1333]

damn...I just came from Dawkins, and Hitchens videos to this and I thought my head will implode.

[@peggyfarrell6991]

I love Dawkins and Hitchens, try out Sam Harris, too.

[@MoRo1333]

Peggy Farrell I know Harris and Dennett and Krauss...all of the bunch. :)

[@moonmaiden-me2bs]

The title is deceiving. She's not even attacking evolution, she's giving her opinion.

[@avocado6623]

moonmaiden6546 She's assaulting our intelligence, that's for sure.

[@moonmaiden-me2bs]

Wulf I can see why you think that but to me it's her opinion and I won't get worked up about it.

[@avocado6623]

moonmaiden6546 Maybe we should get worked up about it. As a society we're spinning our wheels. I believe in human potential. What if instead of being incredibly ignorant like this woman, or being like those people who make a living off instragram, we were a society dedicated to growth and exploration? The fact someone like this exists is sad in its own right. The fact she's given a platform to speak to millions of people that actually believe as she does is down right depressing.

[@moonmaiden-me2bs]

Wulf She has her opinions just as everyone else does. I'm not saying I agree with her, but she was put on the show because she has different views from the other women. I almost feel sorry for her because she is the only conservative, while all the others are democrats. Her potential is probably sharing her views with the world (free speech) and having faith in God. I don't want to get into an argument with you. I respect your opinion and this is mine.

[@melaniemeadows755]

moonmaiden6546 what's the difference?

[@AnnaMishel]

Then who designed the designer?

[@DeesonJame]

The designer's designer.

[@hasseaouled6032]

Deeson Jame lmfao and who designed him? I can't wait to hear your answer.

[@DeesonJame]

Hasse Aouled George Clooney.

[@Daleylife]

Deeson Jame I asked that question at 3. I still don't know, but I still believe in God. If we had all the answers, life would have no point.

[@Daleylife]

Science and faith can co-exist. Don't put words in my mouth. Thanks.

[@Jinda89]

it really bugs me when people use the "Evolution relies on coincidences" argument, because it simply isn't true. Just because we are around to see things working properly (like the complexity of an eye) doesn't mean there wasn't a trial and error period that spanned million of years to make the biological eye what it is today. The eye isn't that perfect anyway. We see ourselves as "perfect" because we don't know how it could be better, and as evolution tells us, it could be infinitely better

[@PeterWatson]

"A child or the human eye"......Clearly have no idea about evolution!

[@dothedeed]

I look at the digestive system of rabbits and I ask "Who designed that?". I mean, what god would force a creature to eat its owns shit to absorb nutrients?

[@kasmacmillan1820]

I'm sorry but this was actually a good talk on ALL their parts. It was a civil discussion and was actually open minded on all their parts Good job gals on the view

[@hooverr1]

Elisabeth is such a nut. Glad she is with her own kind now.

[@PhoenixAquua2012]

you gotta love ignorance

[@blcklivesmatter5114]

If stupid is a drop of water Hasselbeck would be an ocean.

[@debo98433]

Sure, you can believe in a god while also understanding and accepting evolution. However, you cannot accept both evolution and the creation myth in the bible. These are two competing concepts, and one has to prevail. All of the evidence is in favor of evolution. The Adam and Eve story is too improbable to be accepted as factual, based on our understanding of evolution and our origins.

[@emiliasvensson6125]

Couldn't agree with you more.

[@millennialaviation]

Ok so where the the universe evolve from where did animals evolve from where did humans evolve from? If humans and apes are of the same species then apes shouldn’t be kept in zoo’s right? They should be free among us because we’re the same correct?

[@debo98433]

@@millennialaviation Don't be a moron. It's not good for your health. Try reading a book other than the bible. Also, take a biology class.

[@sherrisheppard4599]

All yall realize that you have to have faith to believe in God OR Evolution right??? Either way it still goes back to Faith!!!

[@debo98433]

@@sherrisheppard4599 you don’t need any faith to believe in evolution. DNA evidence alone supports the theory. Don’t equate your childish, evidence-lacking belief in a god with my adult, reasoned, and evidence based understanding of the theory of evolution by natural selection.

[@allessandmegchannel]

Why does the universe have to be "created" by somebody...

[@millennialaviation]

Creating something requires “order” the same way a building requires “order”. That’s why construction of a building or a home requires planning. Look at the universe, look at the distance between the earth and the sun or the order of planets. Can you imagine what would happen if everything was random and not organized?

[@AStoicMaster]

Equivocation error, & false dichotomy @ 0:40. She's talking about Abiogenesis, not evolution. Simply put, evolution deals with changes in the gene pool AFTER life arose; and Abiogenesis deals with life from non life i.e. how we got here.

[@evanmahon4242]

I don't understand why people compare bags, or shoes, or things that are crafted by the hands of man to natural occurrences and biological certainties. Also, Elisabeth says the human eye is perfect, all the while staring down Whoopi who is wearing glasses.

[@PaganCircle]

I guess it's easier to read one book (the bible) than it is to read a bunch of hard books like science and medical text books. Only stupid people believe in a creator.

[@CJMusic2]

Plenty of scientists believe in a creator. Go do your research.

[@PaganCircle]

Chris Jackson Christian scientists aren't really scientists now are they dear? Thanks for coming out tho ;)

[@CJMusic2]

Johnny Topside Haha - if you'd bothered to read my post properly, I didn't even use the word Christian, dear :-)

[@dannoj98]

Chris Jackson "Plenty" is not a percentage. "Plenty" of people have STD's, but that doesn't mean the majority, and if the majority of scientists believed in "a creator", you wouldn't use the word "plenty".

[@CJMusic2]

Dan J Your rather obscure and meaningless comment misses my point entirely. I'm not interested in semantics. My comment was intended to refute Topside's idiotic assertion that 'only stupid people believe in a creator'. I personally know an astro-physicist who, although he doesn't call himself a Christian, believes the universe was created by a higher intelligence. Even if he is the ONLY scientist to believe in a creator, he is definitely NOT a stupid person thus proving JT's 'theory' to be complete rubbish.

[@quantum--infusion6768]

Thank you Jesus for dying on the cross for me paying for my sins in full and giving me eternal life.

[@66Bloodcrystal]

I think my IQ just dropped by 30 points just by watching this video.Elizabeth Hasselbeck compares the evolution of humans to somebody created a handbag.

[@villagekev]

How can someone's strongest argument be "someone invented a designer bag...so something must have designed the universe!" How do you compare an accessory to the universe? Wtf.

[@zerobrainer]

I now fully understand the meaning of the phrase "Bitches be crazy." Thanks, KZbin.

[@donatord]

The frizzy haired girl doesn't know the world is round. True story.

[@mariyaa111]

The "frizzy haired girl?" That is nice, asshole!

[@febthirteen5380]

God didn't create man, man created God

[@Deepbluhuntr]

Thank goodness for Joy, the voice of sanity in a sea of superstition.

[@gregsthrottle]

Poor Joy during this segment… she’s like, “these fools” lol 😅

[@kristibrown6091]

I can’t stand Joy.

[@Steforama]

I can make analogies too Elizabeth. When you look at a rock you never ask anyone "Oh who's the designer?", people would look at you like you're insane and after all the earth is just one giant rock.

[@manwithtwowives]

@4:03'it's actually more believable to think that someone was behind it all' intuitively, yes. we live in a world where most of the things we see are designed by humans. so to see the world and to come to the conclusion intuitively that it must be designed is understandable...when science comes into play, however, we start to look for evidence to either support or refute our intuitional idea. the evidence found by science does not support the idea of a creator, as counter intuitive as that might sound. so yes things look designed but no there is no evidence to support that idea.

[@Subatomic1000]

The View is pretty blind.

[@Subatomic1000]

***** ;)

[@ashkon52]

"Its too perfect.. Someone had to design it... It just cant have 'pfffff' come from thin air" - i just have one question for elizabeth. Who designed god? ... Pfff

[@nacirema2710]

The argument from design again... _sigh_

[@LionovJudah21]

Whoopi is 100 percent correct.

[@randmcnally5572]

What a ridiculous conversation. To deny evolution is to deny logic.

[@daemonicstar]

Wow, that was scary to listen to! Help!

[@GLBizzie]

I always asked myself where I know her from and I finally figured it out: Survivor season 2 lmao

[@jebby16]

Behar gives whole new meaning to the term, "rude".

[@Skier10]

+Buck Weet Sorry but one can only bite the lip for so long when hearing such ignorance being spewed from Ms. Hasselbeck.

[@justordinaryguy1988]

By listening to these ladies talk, it set my IQ back by at least 50 pts.

[@terrysingleton1018]

The reason Elizabeth was fired was because she was an outspoken Christian. There is a perception of people when the C word comes up. Some is valid and some is not. Becoming a Christian is a process a person goes through, a process that is well worth the time and effort. The best part of it is getting to know Christ, hence becoming a Christian. Unfortunately, early on, a lot of humanity gets in the way and it takes time to reach a place of humility which requires a great deal of spiritual strength and patience. The best thing to do is to be still and focus on becoming humble or more Christ-like and seek Godly wisdom.

[@colinc1878]

Fun fact - early editions of the bible were packed with margin notes saying things to the effect of "if you edit this God will smite you." Not sure how many people listened...

[@afvro75]

I’m my goodness so much ignorance in that conversation. Joy was the only one there with some common sense. There is what we know and what we don’t know. That’s it. No need to come up or believe fairy tales because they make you feel better about your own ignorance. It’s ok to say I don’t know when we actually don’t know.

[@AndysEdits]

I can't bring myself to watch this video to the end

[@__G__.]

also please dont say you love me, you dont, you dont know me nor have ever met me. To say you love me demeans what love is. Love is not between strangers on the internet.

[@sammypuro9392]

"Tide goes in, Tide goes out."

[@sha8808]

did Elizabeth say our eyes retract when we go outside?? 3:05

[@dallashazard1828]

The only reason we see "coincidence" or "patterns" is because that's how our brain functions. We look for patterns as a way to understand how things work, but that doesn't mean that this pattern truly exists. It's like if you keep looking at the clock when it's 12:34 over and over and you think "Wow, what a coincidence." it's not because there's something more going on, it means that your brain is recognizing a pattern and is now paying special attention to it. The odds don't change.

[@niklaswikstrom78]

That's the problem though, you are not going with the information available to you, you choose to ignore any information that doesn't assert your christian beliefs. It would be much easier if you would just admit that no evidence in the world could persuade you to change your view on evolution.

[@loser33user]

Why do creationists always cite the eye as an example of God's 'perfect design?' It has a blind spot on the retina that has no explainable use, it's just a vestige of evolution. When so much about this world can clearly be explained and yet people still go back to the old 'God's design' argument, it just shows how immature society as a whole still is.

[@AubreyRobertson]

In science, the word theory has a completely different definition: A body of descriptions of knowledge is usually only called a theory if it has fulfilled these criteria: It makes falsifiable predictions with consistent accuracy across a broad area of scientific inquiry (such as mechanics). It is well-supported by many independent strands of evidence, rather than a single foundation. This ensures that it is probably a good approximation, if not completely correct.

[@evidencebased1]

Elisabeth, we know that handbags are designed because we have learned to distinguish naturally occurring things from man-made. Evolution has a perfectly good explanation how naturally occurring things come about over time. If you say God created evolution too, it would seem that you win that argument, except how can we tell a god-created evolution from a natural one? As far as the universe being created so perfect for life (the fine-tuning argument), if you asked the winner of the state lottery what his odds were of winning and he says "10,000,000:1" is it really so remarkable IF you are talking to the winner? Isn't it far more likely that we are the result of billions of years of evolution in a massively large universe and just haven't found the answer to "Why" we are here yet? No need to make things up. Better to devote our energy to getting along and understanding what we can about our universe.

[@AshleyandJoJo]

Wait, I shouldn't try and be educated on the opposing argument? You should be educated on both sides of an argument, otherwise you have no right to argue... That makes no sense.

[@cg0895]

The very first definition from Webster's is "the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another." That's a very basic way of saying exactly what several others and I have been explaining. A scientific theory is formed based on a large base of evidence (or facts) and used to explain the world around us. The second definition, "abstract through: speculation" is how theory is used more often in common speech.

[@AubreyRobertson]

It is consistent with pre-existing theories and other experimental results. (Its predictions may differ slightly from pre-existing theories in cases where they are more accurate than before.) It can be adapted and modified to account for new evidence as it is discovered, thus increasing its predictive capability over time. It is among the most parsimonious explanations, sparing in proposed entities or explanations.

[@natzeri919]

Why is this titled "The View"--Elisabeth Hasselbeck Attacks Evolution?? I don't particularly like Elizabeth or agree with her point of view on most things, but she in no way attacked evolution. This was a civilized debate where everyone gave their opinion and were heard by their counterparts. "Desperation for likes on my upload" is what this should be titled.

[@morpheus8624]

Is your icon a current picture of you, kefalonia3?

[@arkcorps9138]

I don't understand when they say "believe in evolution". Evolution isn't like Santa Claus or a religion it's a proven FACT. There's no in between. And many would like to debate that evolution is just a theory, but do you really understand what theory means? Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. So Evolution is a fact, but there are various theories concerning the mechanism of evolution. So it will always be true whether you choose to believe in it or not.

[@xradelox]

What really bothers me is that each of them who claimed to believe in God and the Bible and claimed to be Christian kept saying "I think, I feel, etc." Not ONCE did any of them refer back to the Scriptures to reason with. Of all of them, I felt the most respect for Joy because she admitted she didn't know and that she wasn't going to believe in something until she had satisfying answers to her questions. Oh and if anyone wants to know from the Bible where bad things came from, let me know.

[@ChessArmyCommander]

Believing that there is a God who caused Evolution in the first place is smarter than not believing because of a lack of evidence for a God. The reason is, because unlike how it is smarter to require evidence before we believe things in our everyday lives in our World, Its not when it come to the question of a higher power. That's different and it requires faith and most of the time it results in very positive spirituality which can be of great value to the believer.

[@ktrey1981]

can someone explain how can u believe in both

[@nikkfrostt]

I think Hasselbeck displays that she hasn't even looked into evolution because she explains that the result of how natural selection works but can only attribute it to intelligent design. Though truthfully it seems like most people who don't believe in evolution/science listen specifically to people who only agree with them and have equal or lesser knowledge. A key difference in intelligent versus the ignorant.

[@ThaiChinaMalay]

The title of this video is obviously misleading... Elisabeth did not attack anything.

[@unrealeck]

I don't have a proof of what? Many scientific theories were mocked in the past. Possibly because it was a time when religion wasn't as challenged and there was less understanding of the world. Let me know what you're talking about by "and you don't have one [proof] too."

[@mcridiculose]

very nice. i worked four or so years on the HGP back in the nineties when i was living in germany. now i'm a medical administrator for a home health care facility. i guess the subject has shifted off of 'perfect design' now. one more thing, your previous comment where you said complicated living structures wouldn't be regarded by evolutionary biologists as mere chance may be biased towards your profession.

[@Kingsherry]

She actually had a good point behind her statement because what she was trying to say was that if we know that a creator is behind a simple object like a purse or shoes, why should we wonder about a creator being behind more complex things like the earth, animals and humans? It doesn’t make any sense and Evolution is in direct conflict with the bible.

[@SiliconeSalad]

5 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena (the wave theory of light) 6 a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation b : an unproved assumption : conjecture c : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject (theory of equations)

[@pianoman8778]

That's a common fallacy. In fact, people who trash the bible have read ALL of the bible, not just the part that says love thy neighbor. They've read about stoning people, about slavery, about illogical mythology, about condemning homosexuals, etc, etc.

[@krisu5516]

Straight from the Christian Courier's website? I'm not convinced that you have the merit to determine what is or isn't proper research.

[@spacepotato2277]

Boy, you know you're in trouble when Whoopi Goldberg is the smartest, most rational person in the discussion...

[@AccordingToNathan]

Elisabeth isn't attacking evolution. It's really unfair to say that. She's agreeing with evolution, just saying that it took place because of God. To put a negative spin on it is misleading and showing huge bias.

[@NovAaron]

Interestingly, I don't think Hasselbeck realizes that when she says all you need to do is look at the wonderful things blah blah to realize there was design behind it in trying to say you can believe in evolution & that god created it. Then she says the extinction of the dinosaur was because it was an imperfect design. What the heck? She is basically saying here that god is like a scientist himself, creating things, and he made a mistake with the dinosaurs.

[@manwithtwowives]

@1:14'I'm with you ...i think' ..... no, you also didnt know if the world was flat or round. your opinion should be kept to yourself, please. thanks.

[@nicklausoliphant]

I don't see how there's anything wrong with acknowledging evolution but wondering if there is a greater architect behind it. Evolution doesn't disprove God, just some people's interpretation of how God works.

[@deleventy]

It's amazing the phenomenal things people believe without the correspondingly phenomenal evidence to back it up.

[@kubush]

The theory of evolution explains the fact of evolution. You seem to be confused with what the word theory means in science.

[@JGS2295]

You know she's Scientifically illiterate when she uses phrases such as 'Pico-inch'.. hahah

[@jruelas11]

I don't think that belief in a god and evolution are necessarily incompatible. If a god or gods designed the universe with the constants and the scale to render life possible, that would mean that there doesn't have to be any "divine" intervention for life to survive and also explains why religions are wrong. Atheists need to realize that there can be a god outside of religion. It just wouldn't be an interventionist god and it would be possible for there to be a god and no afterlife.

[@283vic]

I didn't believe in evolution until I actually read about it and discovered how much of an indisputably awesome theory it is. Now I can't understand how anybody can argue against it unless they are either ignorant about how it works or are just purely in denial.

[@AubreyRobertson]

The United States National Academy of Sciences defines scientific theories as follows: The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence. Many scientific theories are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially.

[@onceIhadalove]

These outlandish comments on this show made by everyone except Joy are so embarrassing, it is cringe-worthy. Sherri has the dimmest light when it comes to reason and intelligence-based comments and it is baffling that she was allowed to represent a talk show in any form. It's so embarrassing! She had no idea the earth wasn't flat! She believed it was! "I never really thought about it...", she states. Unimaginable ignorance (lack of facts).

[@FruitGod]

hmm I am seeing some missing/misplaced commas and sentence fragments... looks like someone needs some work on her grammar!

[@cg0895]

Again, you are conflating theory used in general conversation and theories of science. Also, do you have a response to the germ theory of disease being "just a theory" if you believe that evolution by natural selection is "just a theory"?

[@LindsayMead]

I wouldn't say that she "attacks" evolution. I would say that she was just giving her opinion. A bit forcefully, but rather polite for Elizabeth.

[@cg0895]

Scientific theory is different from the way that the word theory is used colloquially. The way you are using theory is more closely related to (though not exactly the same as) a scientific hypothesis. Once an idea has graduated to theory in science, it is supported by so much evidence that it is very nearly considered fact. You would not say that the idea that large masses have gravitational force is "just a theory" or that the idea that germs cause disease is "just a theory," would you?

[@SiliconeSalad]

4 a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action (her method is based on the theory that all children want to learn) b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances -often used in the phrase in theory (in theory, we have always advocated freedom for all)

[@kubush]

That's like saying, "in my opinion the world is flat, and just because I hold that opinion, doesn't make me uneducated." Yeah, yeah it does!

[@AnnaMishel]

And who designed god?

[@SiliconeSalad]

I personally have never heard anyone teach in creationism that man and dinosaurs were created on the same day and if someone is then they should be saying that it is their opinion. I for one would not believe that. Your comment that all embryos start out looking the same does not do anything for me really. All clay pottery starts out as a square of clay and yet it can end up a plate, a bowel, a cup or even a clown when its done. Your comparison is still a theory and not a fact.

[@craigmertins6839]

Based on past experience, I'm usually willing to accept a title like the one for this video clip on faith - but this is one of those instances that really torques me off. The views that Elisabeth expressed could hardly be considered an attack, by any stretch of the imagination. Sensationalism is to me even worse then mere stupidity.

[@cool10049]

"Zeus and jesus are as likely as any other myth" No other myth is like the new testament. It amazes me when I hear people on youtube say that. Just look at the history. "Santa and the Boogyman" Is there any good reason to believe santa or the boogyman exist? The thing is, everyone loses their belief in santa at one point. However, many people (like myself) come to believing in God. The thing is, I (like Einstein) believe this universe

[@mcridiculose]

ok, first of all, inversions and deletions are the cause of errors in transcription and translation, so don't call me a fool if you are trying to make sense with your apparent fifth grade education. second, my premise was that a tv can be compared to things like the bombadier beetle, a sentient object, who through variation led out by design from a diety was able to survive. and i was augumenting liz's argument saying that perfect design could be the cause- she didnt want to ask the questions.

[@TooNiceGuy32]

Elisabeth Hasselbeck is one of the people in the universe that believes the complexity of the universe is equal to a bag.

[@jmpinkie]

Elizabeth is a very passionate person and I don't think she was "attacking" evolution. It's her belief. No attacking involved.

[@onceIhadalove]

The idiocy and ignorance smothering the air in that room - Elizabeth and Sherri - is so assaulting and astonishing, even through cyberspace, that kind of stupidity and uneducated vomit being projected across that table makes one great and disgusting stench.

[@MyTeacher7]

Why is it that admitting a designer's involvement in evolution is considered a close minded attack of evolution? How are Elizabeth's comments in anyway construed as an attack? At least she has the honesty to admit that no, she does not have all the answers. The worst type of ignorance is not knowing you are ignorant. In what sphere of discussion was name calling ever considered open minded?

[@sandys1890]

The Bible states that his law is perfect,so why would it change? "I am the same yesterday ,today, and tomorrow "Psalm 10:7 Isaiah 40:8 1 Peter 1:24-25 Exodus 31:15 I'm so tired of you Christians saying God is so wonderful and when we point out all the hateful statements and lies your fallback position is "that was back then and accepted in that time " If that's true then why do you point to the Bible as your reason for not accepting LGTB since it is accepted by society now !

[@trock411]

Sorry Elizabeth but just because you don't understand stuff, the evolution of the eye, doesn't mean that it must have been caused by God

[@Monkeybuisness97]

how do you compare an organism to a object?

[@HansKnockenhaur]

Wow are you confused. Your a christian but call anyone who believes in creation stupid? Maybe if you got yourself educated it would be "explainable" to you and then you would not call people stupid just because they disagree with you. We mock what we dont understand.

[@Marine5484]

The sad part is that many people build their beliefs off people like this.