I recently bought a fairly modern HP Omen Gaming PC for just £50 (£58 including postage) on eBay. Today we're unboxing it and taking an in-depth look at the specs, and the problems... Thanks for watching :)
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@balaam_70873 ай бұрын
I love how you always show the computer bits and chips and stuff against a backdrop of foliage. That juxtaposition of high tech and natural beauty is strangely appealing.
@zXTyRaNTXz3 ай бұрын
I do this on eBay when I sell tech parts and notice that those listings are always absolute bangers that sell for the nice price - you're right about it having a strangely good effect
@azeke83 ай бұрын
@@zXTyRaNTXzThat’s because the buyers know that you touched grass.
@CruzGD3 ай бұрын
True
@mrmarr83083 ай бұрын
Why is everyone using 'juxtaposition' all of a sudden
@bulletgaming57123 ай бұрын
I believe he does it throughout the seasons depending on weather
@ilovelimpfries3 ай бұрын
AMD used to be team green. Until they adopted ati identity, they became team red.
@BenAkenobi3 ай бұрын
yeah, athlon xp family had green logo, got a sticker hanging on my desk from - oh the time flies - 20 years ago
@betag24cn3 ай бұрын
that was so long ago, another life back then i dont remember them being called team green, that was nvidia
@BREEZYM60153 ай бұрын
Is that good or bad?
@RemoWilliams12273 ай бұрын
First pc I built when I moved out on my own was an Athlon xp3000+ with 512mb ram and a 9600pro.
@lucasrem3 ай бұрын
The OMEN theme was all RED, not related to ATI at all.
@Trick-Framed3 ай бұрын
You can coffee time those boards and socket up to a 10th gen processor on it with some simple modding. For reference.
@astoraan60713 ай бұрын
I had a 25L specced with a 5700G and 6600XT, great system as a foundation to start upgrading as it does not have any proprietary parts, the only issue is the limited HP OMEN Motherboard BIOS and the fact that a HP BIOS Update bricked my motherboard (still salty to this day lol) great machine otherwise.
@keyzeyy19582 ай бұрын
Hello RGHD, any chance you'll do a video about the Lossless Scaling app and its Frame Generation feature?
@xILLxChronic3 ай бұрын
there are dozens of omens on ebay that people bought just to yank the card out and are reselling without said card
@wass773 ай бұрын
love the thumbnail 😅
@anurbanpenguin88903 ай бұрын
Good buy. This week I picked up a Lenovo Think Centre P320 with; - i7 7700 - 16GB DDR4 2400 - 512GB SSD - nVidia Quadro P2000 (5GB GDDR5) - 400w Platinum PSU for £41. Think I did quite well!
@RandomGaminginHD3 ай бұрын
Very nice!
@anurbanpenguin88903 ай бұрын
@@RandomGaminginHD the Quadro card makes the deal on its own tbh. Got a machine with a dying 660ti that only gets used for office / multimedia stuff so it'll go in there nicely and use a bit less power. Rest of the machine I think I'll try and hackintosh as a bit of a project with something like an RX560 for compatibility reasons.
@AlpineTheHusky3 ай бұрын
Dude the Platinum PSU alone is worth near 40 quid
@JacobPaul-ix7oc3 ай бұрын
My specs are very similar to yours. I have an older HP Envy with the 17 7700, 16GB DDR4 2400, but with a 2TB hard drive (I'll get an SSD eventually), RTX 4060ti and RedDragon 600w PSU (it's four years old and still works great). I just thought I'd let you know that you can get a much better mid-range GPU down the road without their being a CPU bottleneck. My CPU usage varies between 60-85% with the higher end being in highly populated areas of CP2077 and RDR2. I don't know where you live, but when I had to replace my dying RTX 2060 a couple of months ago, I found the RTX 4060ti was only $50 more than a RTX 3060ti while also using less power. If you can, get at least an RTX 4060 to take advantage of DLSS3 in some games. (CP2077 in particular off the top of my head.)
@maybacher3 ай бұрын
daaaaaaaamn! Thats like what I build for people on pc building simulator 2! pretty new intel cpu, for where you're digging! that is insane for 41 pounds! and is it really a platinum psu? or just white? still amazing!
@mk_scorpion_3 ай бұрын
0:01 Nice Ventriloquism act lol
@RandomGaminginHD3 ай бұрын
😁
@Br0ken_playz3 ай бұрын
Bro looked kinda disappointed ngl.
@ddevin3 ай бұрын
😶
@istvancsap35132 ай бұрын
@@RandomGaminginHD anybody ever told you, you look rather british? ;)
@Rapscallion20093 ай бұрын
Bang in a used GPU - perfect budget gaming rig
@ScreamingTc3 ай бұрын
Great for Indie gaming, too. As long as you stay away from AAA gaming, it'll last for years to come.
@AntiGrieferGames3 ай бұрын
Some Indie games works on potato @@ScreamingTc
@ScreamingTc3 ай бұрын
We've all played Portal 2.... I hope.
@Rapscallion20093 ай бұрын
Yep. Some AAA would be fine on low settings, too.
@L4ftyOne3 ай бұрын
With a rx 580 its a crazy cheap 1080p high /medium pc
@infinity2z3r073 ай бұрын
getting that much dust inside a pc is a skill. i don't know how ppl do it haha
@Ivlodded3 ай бұрын
those pre builts are for people buying the spec they need, get used, and sold when replaced all that for a good price, so why bother
@chillhour61553 ай бұрын
people with carpets my guess..thick carpets
@mrmarr83083 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you live in the dusty city and never dust your house
@Ivlodded3 ай бұрын
@@mrmarr8308 thats not city dust thats textile Usually when you change clothes in the same room or dont vacuum enough
@awesomeminecrafter86763 ай бұрын
I'd leave for college and every device in our house would look like that by the end of the semester. No one wants to know how to maintenance or work on the magic black boxes, they just want them to work lmfao
@hatchetman36623 ай бұрын
You should place RAM sticks based on what the motherboard manual says. Not your personal preference. It absolutely does matter.
@christianmino37533 ай бұрын
Listen man, you have one of the most wholesome channels on this platform. Please don't get yourself involved in controversy, lol. This platform needs you legit. Much love bro.
@balaam_70873 ай бұрын
Dude is the Bob Ross of computer stuff. Oztalkshardware and him doing a video together would be epic
@christianmino37533 ай бұрын
@@balaam_7087 Agreed, along with Daniel Owen. I feel like the toasty bros are just as wholesome, but when it comes to the quality of their content, it seems like they unfortunately, pump out what feels like the same video over and over again and that their channel really is built for people are looking to put together a build as opposed to us tech enthusiasts (which is absolutely okay, they just target a different, although overlapping, audience) I mean I watch every one of them lol, and they seem like great guys judging by their attitude and how they helped that streamer who was going to sell his gaming set up to help his child afford treatment for an illness or something like that, and instead of taking the money, they GAVE HIM MONEY AND LET HIM KEEP THE PC, and I respect that because it feels genuine too, they get more than enough views on their videos so it wasn't for clicks, but I feel like tech KZbin is actually in a fantastic place right now with a lot of great content creators getting involved. I think I'm gonna dip my toes in the water so, but my job requires me to not use my actual name or face, so I need to learn how to be anonymous, and still monetize my videos. Guess I'd have to use an alias, but I build and sell computers as a side job, and a lot of the time I'm doing OptiPlex retrofits, and I'm very outgoing and have a personality for it as I'm a performer and used to be the frontman of my old band back in high school, so I think I can make some great content.
@christianmino37533 ай бұрын
@@balaam_7087 Agreed, along with Daniel Owen. I feel like the toasty bros are just as wholesome, but when it comes to the quality of their content, it seems like they unfortunately, pump out what feels like the same video over and over again and that their channel really is built for people are looking to put together a build as opposed to us tech enthusiasts (which is absolutely okay, they just target a different, although overlapping, audience) I mean I watch every one of them lol, and they seem like great guys judging by their attitude and how they helped that streamer who was going to sell his gaming set up to help his child afford treatment for an illness or something like that, and instead of taking the money, they GAVE HIM MONEY AND LET HIM KEEP THE PC. I've got to respect that. It feels genuine too, they get more than enough views on their videos so it wasn't for clicks, but I feel like tech KZbin is actually in a Fantastic place right now.
@prashantmishra99852 ай бұрын
And zwormz gaming
@santino1483 ай бұрын
The unbuttoned polo shirt showing your chest hair really suits you, makes you look like a character from the Sopranos
@Kanivalos803 ай бұрын
he knows a guy who knows a guy lol
@RandomGaminginHD3 ай бұрын
Haha thanks. Amazing TV show!
@jessragan67143 ай бұрын
I was thinking he looked like Matthew Perry, the late Friends star, myself.
@zye.3 ай бұрын
He reminds me of Michael Schumacher for some reason
@Lurch-Bot3 ай бұрын
That wasn't my impression. Last time I saw someone dressed like that was at a gay bar.
@nintendoatarikiller3 ай бұрын
thumbnail got me thinking you started an OF page
@pokepokepoke643 ай бұрын
He should
@stephenclark99173 ай бұрын
@@pokepokepoke64 Nice british tan.
@BREEZYM60153 ай бұрын
😂😂
@RobHickman3 ай бұрын
there are a lot of fans in this video...
@ironv81213 ай бұрын
@@pokepokepoke64 That's creepy and weird of you to say that you weird person.
@NegativeROG3 ай бұрын
I watched you years ago when you had a few thousand subs, and now to see you over half a million is amazing! I'm so thrilled for you, bro. You should be proud.
@GeForce2103 ай бұрын
single best guy who truly uploads for budget gamers
@Bembika093 ай бұрын
I did not thought this was rx 580. I thought it was maybe rx 550 looking at the size of gpu
@RandomGaminginHD3 ай бұрын
Yeah seems to be hp exclusive. I’ve tested the 8gb one before but this only has 4
@lucasrem3 ай бұрын
@@RandomGaminginHD HP makes their own GPU's, just a Dual RTX 580 4Gb as others did sell back then. The cheaper RTX 1080 cards.
@chloeprice83 ай бұрын
@@lucasrem theres no such thing as an "rtx1080"
@interceptionunit66663 ай бұрын
@@lucasremthere's no such thing as rtx 580 either
@macblink3 ай бұрын
@@lucasremRTX 580 and RTX 1080.. what the hell are you smoking bro 😂
@Mox20773 ай бұрын
Have you considered baking the GPU in the oven? Longer process but more efficient than the heatgun trick ... most likely the "stripes" are due to some soldering not properly connecting, most likely on the video memory, so worth a shot.
@Zerbey3 ай бұрын
My usual test is to first see if any capacitors are domed, in which case it's a few cents to fix (pennies for our good friend in the UK), then carefully look everything over with a magnifying glass and look for dry solder joins or broken traces, which are also simple to fix. If that doesn't work, time to break out the thermal camera to see if anything obvious is overheating. Things get a bit complicated from there, but sometimes you get lucky. Not sure how much time I'd put into an RX580, it's not a bad little card but they're not exactly expensive to replace.
@Lurch-Bot3 ай бұрын
You have to hit at least 220C to melt lead free solder, at which point your display ports will start to melt. So you have to remove them regardless. Someone else commented here they baked theirs at 190C and it worked. But this means the most likely scenario was that the DP or HDMI port was worn and baking caused enough deformation of the plastic to tighten it back up and make contact. They definitely didn't melt the solder at 190C. Anyone with some board repair knowledge would never bake a GPU. And it isn't that hard to reball some VRAM chips. Of course, you would run a VRAM test to identify the faulty chip(s) and just do those so you might be reballing one or two chips. It is also important to keep in mind this symptom could be caused by a faulty VRAM chip or maybe something else, like a bad capacitor or broken trace. You might look at the board and see a blown capacitor and the fix is way easier than baking a GPU in the oven. Could even be that someone broke off a component or two somewhere along the way. But it is your GPU so if you want to go straight for the nuclear option, that's your choice. It is also worth noting that most people report baking their GPU as a temporary fix and a lot of the time it doesn't work at all. In fact, if you successfully get the solder melted, you can end up with components shifting or even falling off altogether, thereby compounding your issues.
@Mox20773 ай бұрын
@@Lurch-Bot If you have the knowledge and required tools to fix it "properly" then sure, that is the better option, but I've had a couple of cards fixed with the oven trick that was showing a very similar behaviour to this one (weird colours and stripes all over the screen), and they went strong for years after that, so seems like people have very different experiences. If the alternative is to scrap the card (which is sort of hinted in this video) then I'd definitely consider the Bake before chugging it in the bin. It's a quick'n'dirty (potential) fix but if you want to consider return on investment there's also a limit to how much time it's worth spending on investigating individual components for a fairly obsolete card - unless you do it solely for the challenge, of course.
@Trick-Framed3 ай бұрын
@@Mox2077 Agreed. They sell many products and adhesives that you can wrap around heat sensitive components to boot. I have done this to great effect while I had no solder station, decent multimeter or desolder kits from vacuum to wick lol. Now that I have them again, I tend to skew towards finding the issue and solving it however when I thought it was just a loose component while not having testing equipment, and loose is usually the case, the oven method will fix it.
@mountainclimbr3 ай бұрын
Been following for a while but haven’t watched your vids in a year or so, I can tell you’ve lost some weight! Keep it up my guy! Nice review too 👍
@RandomGaminginHD3 ай бұрын
Welcome back!
@thealien_ali33823 ай бұрын
@@RandomGaminginHDU indeed look very good keep up the good work buddy
@linux420692 ай бұрын
The 7700 is the most valuable part of the system! Even used they fetch over 100 bucks. I missed a pretty good deal recently and have been kicking myself since
@wmp00742 ай бұрын
Kicking myself over a deal I found June 19th. A working MSI Cyborg 15 A12VF for $70.99. I didn't have money in my paypal so I asked my friend to let me borrow $100. By the time they responded the laptop was already sold. lol
@firstname43373 ай бұрын
why is Matthew Perry making a video about gaming pcs?
@lostskull74673 ай бұрын
Too soon
@scott_harrison3 ай бұрын
What air duster are you using, I've been wary of buying one of these as I didn't think they were very powerful but the one you are using seems good
@TheTyfreeman21 күн бұрын
Ive actually been pretty curios about what the 7700 non k can do. Theres not a lot out there on youtube. I "built" my nephew a little starter pc a couple years ago, just an optiplex with a 7700 16gb ddr3 and an rx 6400. Im curious what i could sneak in there that would be worth the upgrade. Power supply being the biggest thing holding me back. Been thinking of slapping my old 2060 in there, but i think im more interested than he is 😂
@playeronthebeat3 ай бұрын
That'd be a dream system for my server stuff. Putting Proxmox over it, slapping in a small GPU like an Intel Arc 310 or 380 and have it run things like immich, Plex/Jellyfin or small game servers - that CPU would be very capable for that.
@BREEZYM60153 ай бұрын
Interesting take. I might have to learn immich, Plex and Jellyfin.
@Lurch-Bot3 ай бұрын
Arc sees a massive hit to performance without reBAR. AMD RDNA2, not so much. You won't get much running well, game wise, and would be better served with an RX6600.
@playeronthebeat3 ай бұрын
@Lurch-Bot never did I say I'd be running games on this configuration? Game servers are dependent on the CPU, not the GPU, thankfully, and the transcoding is not really dependent on ReBAR. For AV1 support, it's way cheaper than any other card out there.
@Readesu3 ай бұрын
Do you drive a Jag. You look like you drive a Jag.
@ivangerginov56483 ай бұрын
That's a nice find! Recently I saved my dead GPU by putting it in the oven for 10 min at 190 C. Worked wonders, a month later it's still perfectly fine.
@notFoxils3 ай бұрын
It will 100% die sooner or later
@krypton12603 ай бұрын
That doesn't fix the issue. Something needs to be reballed. A "reflow" is just a temporary fix. Like putting a black sticker or electric tape on the "check engine" -light on a vehicle.
@ivangerginov56483 ай бұрын
@@krypton1260 Yeah, I get it. I know people call it a temporary fix but I've seen comments online where people say their cards have been working for years after they gave it an oven session. So far it's performing fine so I don't expect it to die again soon after a month of daily use.
@level84733 ай бұрын
@@krypton1260 It doesn't need to be reballed, the issue is with the chip's inside itself.
@chloeprice83 ай бұрын
nice.. now enjoy whatever food you put in that oven. with all those solder fumes it should give extra taste to it 😂
@manassable3 ай бұрын
Since I moved to Germany, I tried my luck on Ebay - kleinanzeigen and I got a used PC for 200 Euros - Core i5 - 6500 - GTX 1060 - 6GB - 16 GB DDR4 RAM - 512GB SATA SSD I am very much happy with it, atleast I can game for few years and then upgrade to better system once I am settled.
@Lurch-Bot3 ай бұрын
4c non HT CPUs are really sucking for recent games. The 1060 lacks DX12U support, which will be necessary for a lot of AAA releases moving forward. That will be more of an issue than only having 6GB VRAM because you can always use lossless scaling to improve your results and stay within the VRAM limit by simply rendering at a lower resolution and upscaling. I'm currently playing Forza Horizon 4 at 1440p60 on a 4th gen i7 and a GTX 670 SC 2GB. The GPU is actually rendering the game at 720p30.
@Trick-Framed3 ай бұрын
Great deal. So long as it makes you happy, that's all that matters. If you are daring enough and have a motherboard that will work with it, you can use Coffee Time and place up to a 10th gen Intel processor in your motherboard, so plenty to upgrade too! Good luck and enjoy your machine!
@jonnyc4293 ай бұрын
Maybe it had a bird inside. That's why it was going cheap. I'm here all week
@hawkdeathpawp60213 ай бұрын
hello again :D
@RandomGaminginHD3 ай бұрын
Hello there!
@hawkdeathpawp60213 ай бұрын
@@RandomGaminginHD also btw that monitor you have does it auto switch inputs as i saw "hdmi"
@UnmatchedSkills3 ай бұрын
that 580 might of had its bios flashed, it was a thing some people where doing during the crypto mining phase.
@Totyamuri3 ай бұрын
Tip: never use air blower when the fans still plugged in to the motherboard, they can generate electricity if the fans starts spinning and can short the mb and kill it
@JordanPlayz1583 ай бұрын
I was concerned about that as for some reason I thought this was an old PC but nowadays, if the mobo manufacturer doesn't have protections in place for that.... That's like bare minimum or should be nowadays
@johnwohlheter6013 ай бұрын
9:18 - Not a good idea to blow that much dust around with that open CPU socket.
@jxun4l3ht103 ай бұрын
Modern gaming PC for a cheap price? That's an bad omen.
@ThisWontEndWell3 ай бұрын
I guess with just a year left of Win 10 support Intel Gen 7 and lower systems are only going to depreciate in value
@My_Old_YT_Account3 ай бұрын
You can upgrade them to 10 LTSC for support until 2032 or 11 LTSC with a still unknown support window
@SlimCognitoyt3 ай бұрын
Can you test a fx 8300 and 960 combo? Thanks big fan
@desktopstu41453 ай бұрын
I have an FX 8350 with RTX 2070 Super, anything in particular you are looking to test on the FX8300/GTX960?
@ARTala883 ай бұрын
He needed a big fan for this PC 😉
@michaelthompson97983 ай бұрын
Honestly.... what a great score imo!!! Awesome looking case and I'd do a motherboard / cpu / gpu etc upgrade and put in new LED strips fro the lighting. I love the pc case has 2x Hotswap HDD bays too :D
@ConfusedStu3 ай бұрын
Leaves the CPU socket pins fully exposed, then hits the PC with the air duster and throws years worth of unspeakable 'bits' at it - RGinHD really is a realm where older machines go to be brutally tested, and only the strong survive. Exactly as it should be!
@ridhwanrazali93633 ай бұрын
Gaming PC and touching grass Bro is living the life
@alejoyugar3 ай бұрын
That's a total bargain tho 50 eur for a rx 580 + cpu + ram + etc
@HaakonHaug2 ай бұрын
My favorite channel to be honest. I am done though with salvaging parts as i have done for ages like this. I scored a 12400 with 8GB and 512Gb for £150 some weeks ago brand new in an Ideacentre 3 i just won't bother with older machines anymore even if it's fun. It's replacing a vanilla i5 2400 running Mint but i have more powerful machines as well.
@prashantmishra99852 ай бұрын
And also ZwormZ gaming
@rathstar3 ай бұрын
Brilliant find. A gtx 1070 would make a great pairing for the i7-7700 and can be found for around £85 now.
@JeaneGenie2 ай бұрын
Try the heat gun on the ddr chips and see if that sorts the graphics card.
@enderlore13373 ай бұрын
"Bro you're not lagging" The lag: 10:30
@orrode23 ай бұрын
What's the brand and reference of the air duster?
@jjlambonscloudyproductions3 ай бұрын
Great thing about your channel..I get to see someone die in game more than I do lol. Man you got a great pick up on that Omen. Great video as always. Stay Blessed and much love from here in Tennessee.
@christianmino37533 ай бұрын
I didn't know Count Dooku made GPU's. Must have been during his jedi days. It would be an Nvidia GPU had he already turned to the dark side. Little known fact, it was actually Palpatine who designedt the RTX 4090. UNLIMITED POWERRRRRRRRRRR!
@veedee53 ай бұрын
More like Bad Omen.
@Jomenaa3 ай бұрын
Oh man those HP Omen xxL prebuilts... they are made to suffer. Got one to diagnose and it had 5900X cooled by 120mm AIO and it was overheating. RTX 3080 HP OEM model, man just google those, their cooling is insufficient without some tinkering with thermal pads and/or paste. Hotshot jumped to 104c when gpu temp was 70c and it ran like 1500MHz from the start and slowly throttle more to 1200MHz D: And I mean these weren't the problems why it came in, it just shut down while gaming or benchmarking. It had 750/850W HP Platinum rated PSU but all these things and 3080 transient spikes counted it, it just couldn't handle. Kernel Power 41 (63) error came everytime it shut down itself.
@Taorakis3 ай бұрын
Considering the RX 580 is an OC's RX 480 I can see it giving up at some point. I sadly have the same issue with GPU's I do bake them in the oven and it works sometimes, but 2 of the 3 successes I had stopped working again some months later again. It's never a permanent fix, and I can't do resoldering myself. >.< Also afaik Ram-Slot 2 & 4 are the one's shorter connected to the CPU, as the traces then go from slot 2 to 1 and from 4 to 3, so if you use 1 and 3, you use just a bit longer traces to get to your ram modules.
@mazz85-3 ай бұрын
I would always upgrade the cpu cooler for gaming computers tbh, and maybe the case fans too, additional RGB maybe, they will find a way to glow even from solid cases. Or would you mod the sidepanel for tiny window ? Get your money with simple mods.
@UToobSteak3 ай бұрын
I have the same Omen. It came with a ryzen and a gtx 1060 3gb. The storage expansion on these omens is pretty cool
@sheepgti3907 күн бұрын
I loved this little cleanup vid. Am a fan since 2018 and would like to know if you have any really really cheap parts or systems i can buy from you for 20euro or under
@GDI2213 ай бұрын
Honestly that 3050 isnt that limited i think these 2 parts are a pretty good match. Also 8:00 thats not a preference thing but you probably know that but in case you dont you should always refer to the manual which ones to use first. But yes in modern times it often is the slots further away. That being said, nice video and cool find tho!
@_Zardari_3 ай бұрын
who is this handsome lad? 00:11
@its44813 ай бұрын
Hey, love your video! Could you tell me which Airduster you are using? Im looking to get one, but most seem to be the same from chinese brands that break after a couple of uses.
@gmuge73 ай бұрын
It looks to be the same one I have, an IT Dusters CompuCleaner. Can thoroughly recommend, different sized nozzles for different "amounts" of air at a time.
@its44813 ай бұрын
@@gmuge7 Cheers, mate! Gonna take a look at it.
@wigg19873 ай бұрын
What air blower model is that. I need to purchase one
@federicocatelli87853 ай бұрын
Yeah It looks mighty
@JacobPaul-ix7oc3 ай бұрын
Try it with an RTX 4060ti. I have an older HP Envy with the same CPU and RAM as the PC in the video. I recently replaced my dying RTX 2060 with an RTX 4060ti ($370 on sale at MicroCenter) and I am able to run most AAA games at 60fps 1440p with High/Medium settings (some games like CP2077 with DLSS3, but it still does a good job).
@Pre.C_King2 ай бұрын
Love making these wicked bargains! Bought a brand New HP Pavilion (i5 10400,8gb ddr4 and a 512gb m.2) for less than 100$ U.S.. put PSU dual sync board in to use a secondary PSU in order to feed the GPU.. dude was selling it as defective because when be put in his GPU it wouldnt work.. (The scent of brand New electronics quite literally oozed out of it when first opening the Chassi..) Electronics can make for the Most insane of bargains due to people being oblivious to technology.. and computers in particular. Kinda like people tossing their desktop because of a fried HDD.. A far from uncommon occurance..
@Lurch-Bot3 ай бұрын
Tom's Hardware was just raving today about an MSI that came in a bag with handles like it was a new thing. Looks like they didn't do enough research. Oops. For the price you paid, you would have been better off spending the extra $10 for an i7-4790(S) and H81 MB. Actually recently got a Z87 for a second gaming desktop for $25 with tax and shipping. The CPU was about $30 IIRC but I bought that a while ago. Put a $25 GTX 670 SC in it and have been playing Forza Horizon 4 on it at 1440p60, thanks to Lossless Scaling with 2x scaling and 2x frame gen, both in performance mode. I was shocked, to say the least, and have been competitive in online racing with it. TL;DR, I wouldn't have bought this even for $50. I would just build a better budget rig from the ground up for a little more. You got an i5-7400 and a 4790S will blow it out of the water. A 4 core non-HT CPU is pretty much worthless for modern gaming so it represents negative value here. If you think a proprietary 7th gen MB, crappy case with poor airflow and an also ran PSU with a limiting capacity is worth $50, you do you. But I would advise against it. Edit: someone already upgraded to an i7 but when I looked up the part numbers on the board, it indicated this should have an i5-7400. I guess they didn't put model specific part numbers on the MB, which is not something I'm used to seeing on OEM boards. all my old Optiplex machines have model specific part numbers on the MBs.
@yogibear2k2203 ай бұрын
Great video as always, Steve. You mentioned that you sell stuff on Ebay, and I was very interested to hear that as I buy loads of stuff from ebay, and find it very difficult to find a very reliable UK seller. Would it be possible, pleease, to have your ebay seller name? Thank you.
@waffleurr3 ай бұрын
Yeah, if the GPU chip isn't dead, it can be a cheap fix, unless the PCB lines are damaged, of course. If it is dead, then it's not even worth replacing it, because the cost of the fix and the chip itself would probably cost more than what you got this system for.
@Zerbey3 ай бұрын
For 50 quid you got a deal for the i7-7700 alone, I would no longer recommend people buy this venerable chip for a gaming PC in 2024 as Windows 11 doesn't support it (officially anyway). For a server or Linux workstation, it'll be a great choice especially at that price!
@jessragan67143 ай бұрын
You paid what, $80 American for this? That's not a bad deal at all considering what was in the system. 16GB of DDR4 RAM, a solid state drive, a seventh gen i7 processor, and it was all functional once the GPU was replaced. I'd say you did pretty well for yourself.
@josephkokkinos93263 күн бұрын
This is, far and away, the coolest ~12 minute video on KZbin.
@dronesoarАй бұрын
You have me searching Ebay for parts now. I custom built mine in 2015 and still rocking a 3770k and 16 gigs of ram. I have a very limited budget so I hope I can find one of these deals that I always seem to miss. Dust is a killer of boards, especially in damp areas as the damp will cling to the dust. Not so much a problem when it is running all the time, but when turned on after extended period of time of not being used it will tend to short circuit things.
@thomaslayman94872 ай бұрын
oh nice, the 7700 runs at almost exactly the same frequency as the i3-12100! i'm pretty sure you've compared the 7700k and 12100f before but it's interesting to consider the non-k 7700 with the slightly lower clocks.
@meister5503 ай бұрын
I had one of those 6pin 4gb rx580. It was the only "gaming" gpu for adequate price during crypto fever, but that thing was just bad. It was definitely abused and barely working
@archgirl3 ай бұрын
Yeah, if I remember right, the RX580 was something of a favorite for miners during the chip shortage. Then after the bubble burst, they were _everywhere_ in more conditions than I can describe.
@RobGMun3 ай бұрын
11:05 With a i7-7700 the 3050 is not limited, you won't hit a bottleneck with this CPU. A 3060 12Gb is the ceiling with this processor and with that combo it's perfectly balanced with both hitting 90% utilization.
@bob233012 ай бұрын
I had one of these and had a ton of issues, the HDD only had 666 meg, the cpu and memory were both stuck at 666mhz, and they keyboard only had 1 key that worked, the number 6, oh and when it was on it would seep blood after 6 mins........but apart from that and the voice that told me to "GET OUT!", everybtime i took the side panel off, it ran quite well.
@andreewert65762 ай бұрын
While i wouldn't want anyone to have to game with 4 cores these days, it is totally acceptable in many games still. Not all gamers are interested in AAA titles anyway, i know a few folks who only run WoW or Genshin Impact or League, that's it. So this box coupled with a working 570/580 for another 30 pounds would totally keep them happy for another year or three.
@UzY3L3 ай бұрын
Maybe it helps in the future: random stripes/artefacts are usually the GPU's RAM chips that need a reflow. Try that next time. What's gonna happen? Not gonna work? :) Also: try not to blow air into a system with the CPU removed
@gianlucapanattoni66523 ай бұрын
Hi there! I have a similar system, maybe a bit more recent. with i5 8600k, aio liquid cooling (single fan), 8 gb ram, etc. First off I guess you already noticed, but the correction about air duster instead of the heatgun was misplaced in the time line, being on 8:20 instead of 8:54. Also I wouldn't suggest to blast air on the motherboard when the CPU is not installed, debris could an happily would get caught on the socket pins...
@joey_f4ke2383 ай бұрын
With socket 1151 you can get newer 6 or 8 core cpus working in some cases if the bios is moddable, either with some chinese frankenstein cpu or some tape mod on regular cpu (don't quote me on that, haven't tried that one). Right now i have what is essentially a 6 core 8th gen i7 running at 4.3ghz max on a 6th gen mobo, with the added benefit of being direct die cooled so a simple low profile cooler is perfectly capable of keeping it in check. A worthwile jump from an i5 6500
@tragixCSGO2 ай бұрын
Today I finally upgraded my personal system from i3 12100f to an i512100f and holy cow it runs so much snappier now (not relevant to the video but thought I’d share what made me a happy man today)
@darkmadrap2 ай бұрын
Times do have changed , when a 50 gpu gets bottlenecked by an i7 , you know the cpu aint good anymore . Im just curious tho , would the 3050 be a good paring with a i5 8400 ? Would like a bench of that for sure😊
@ironv81213 ай бұрын
I thought the GPU had to be either the R9 390x or RX 480 or RX 580, looks like it was the RX 580 which are very common and good value mid/high range GPU for its time.
@WesleyF199317 күн бұрын
That gpu was blown, thats the only reason why it changed colour after you heatgunned it. Green to red is practically digging the grave and burying it :(
@FacialVomitTurtleFights3 ай бұрын
hold up... didn't you used to have like 1/10th the subscribers... I swer i member u making it to 40-50k.. anyway GRatz
@jayb27053 ай бұрын
I'd be curious if an AMD gpu would be less bottlenecked than the 3050 as they run better on older hardware. Something like a 5600XT/5700 might do a decent job
@weejay286023 күн бұрын
No need fancy studio or offices, just a beautiful backyard is good enough. Love your channel since 2019 😁
@aliz333 ай бұрын
Iv got Omen gaming laptop and cant recommended it. Like most other ppl got a lot of problems (like random crash in games) with graphic drivers, bios.. ect.. In overall specs looks aveseome/price but in real life..sux, next time.. i will pay a bit more for Dell or Alienware. Cheers.
@Ivy-pe2wz2 ай бұрын
the RX 580 has a dead VRAM cheap. Surprisingly common failure mode with those generation of cards mostly due to bad build quality. You can use an industrial machine to desolder and replace the memory chips, but that sounds like a tiny bit outside of your usual works
@hakkuri78762 ай бұрын
Dont know if you did this to your 580, but i always go at the top of the card with Isopropyl alcohol and wipe it off with a toothbrush that i use for cleaning. And if i find any other parts of the card that are dirty, i clean it too. It amazes me how much dirt and crap that sticks to the top of the card, getting sucked in the system and just exhumed from the CPU cooler right down on the GPU. Have saved countless cards with this simple fix. :)
@TheNiteNinja193 ай бұрын
You can get a lot of enjoyment for $50 + a cheap GPU. And I'm pretty sure that's an ATX system so with a little ingenuity, you can reuse that case. Those hot swappable drive cages are sweet
@zimbu_3 ай бұрын
I would say "Ladies, find yourself a man who looks at you like he looks at a £50 HP OMEN gaming PC", but realistically not a lot of women in the audience here.
@Filthy8162 ай бұрын
I feel like lenovo had some allround decent deals fairly often, couple months back i got a decent ryzen 7/rtx3070 build for around €850, served me well so far
@Mr.1.i2 ай бұрын
thats all its worth really with microsoft ending support for win 10 next oct....its not a viable choice even for todays 2nd hand market ,if your buying a second hand system besure its win11 compatible otherwise its a bad purchase if its lower than 8th gen...i bet the mountain of computers that cant run win11 will be astounding
@SuperLittleTyke2 ай бұрын
1:14 That is one ugly looking PC! What's with the sharply angled front panel? Awful. And some of the internal components have had to be crammed in because of the slant.
@agame-jv6zv2 ай бұрын
Hey dude have you ever tried the x99 e5-2697 v3? It supposedly has equal gaming performance to the ryzen 5 3600 when full turboed and undervolted about -90 iirc and you can make like a 300 dollar gaming pc with that and a gtx 980 or ti. We have come a long way since you were making budget pentium and core 2 quad videos
@r34ztune113 ай бұрын
Was very surprised to see that's an RX 580. With that small cooler, 6pin power connector and short length, I was thinking it's an RX 560.
@richardpage94742 ай бұрын
Had the same problem with an Omen I bought new. The 2060 in it just died for some reason after a year or so. I've upgraded to a different system now, but the Omen is now resting in a closet.
@josenunez74223 ай бұрын
Those were artifacts at first glance. All the work on that gpu was for nothing. Only work in a gpu if you can repair it. Finding the bad memory module and replacing it. With the specialized tools.
@ZaberfangX3 ай бұрын
So many pc going be in the e-waste by end of 2025 due to windows 10 unless people turn it in to a server, emulator or linux people gaming or not. I did pick up a hp 2400g amd for $100 usd turn it in to a cashyos steam os box so far so go even with in steam a banner saying the gpu is unsupported but it works.
@simpernchong3 ай бұрын
This machine has gone through a war..haha.. so dusty.
@GGigabiteM2 ай бұрын
With the color stripes on the screen, I'm guessing the card has one or more bad RAM chips, or chips with broken BGA connections. Also possible the GPU ASIC has broken BGA connections from being overheated due to the dust. Reballing it and replacing the RAM might revive the card.
@RoswelliVideos3 ай бұрын
I have one of these HP Stock RX 580s. I used mine in a Shuttle PC because it's compact and only needs 6 pin power, but I've recently upgraded to a 1650 Super to replace it with. If you're looking for this replacement part for a fully stock system, message me and maybe we can do a swap or something.
@csh98533 ай бұрын
looks like the i7 can handle a better gpu.
@JacobPaul-ix7oc3 ай бұрын
It definitely can. I have an i7 7700 paired with an RTX 4060ti and the same RAM in this video. When I run MSI Afterburner, the CPU usage is usually lower than the GPU, even on newer titles.
@thisguy29583 ай бұрын
For 50 this aint bad for a casual gamer. Anything that came out 5+ years ago will run fine. This is coming from an antiquated gamer with a massive backlog of titles to play from over a decade, albeit.
@tontitontito3 ай бұрын
I have PTSD with this PC. My brother had one in this case and was a pain in the 4ss doing any kind of maintenance (not to mention the lack of a switch in the stock PSU and proprietary MOBO)