Building a £200 Gaming PC in 2024...

[@marknewellmusic]

No matter how good Icebergs RGHD impression was, the lack of seagull was noted...

[@JezyYT]

Yeah, where fudge is dave?

[@Hostyl176]

After seeing his first, I half expected you to use *his* intro style. 😁

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Haha I used the end instead 😁

[@BREEZYM6015]

Whose intro style?

[@mbibe]

@@BREEZYM6015 Iceberg Tech's

[@oj2416]

me too😂

[@lebedev6954]

​@@RandomGaminginHD bro 32gig is overkill you could get a 3300x instead or something

[@jonpeley]

I really liked this small saga with Iceberg Tech. I watch your videos since about 2-3 years, but I started watching his videos some months ago. Both styles are completely different, yours, more sober and the other with a more uplifting vibe. I specially love the music of those videos.

[@TheChiro2000]

Iceberg is really, really good

[@jonpeley]

@@TheChiro2000 yep. I really like his style. And that voice is quite easy to understand for us non native english speakers.

[@TheChiro2000]

@@jonpeley Yep he has that "TV" voice 🤔😂

[@MasterCog999]

"The Rivals", I feel like that callout makes you winner by default lol

[@RandomGaminginHD]

😁

[@adamkamieniarz9223]

you can drill through bolts, but removing cages may compromize structural integrity of the whole case a bit

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Ah good point

[@janemba42]

Highly unlikely considering the size of the cage in comparison to the case. But this is something to look out for.

[@H31MU7]

Not bolts, rivets. Still surprised he didn't drill them out so he could plug them in though.

[@darthwiizius]

A couple of little 90 degree brackets would take care of that, but for a box under a tenner who cares?

[@CataclysmZA]

That drive cage isn't doing anything for the chassis rigidity, it can be drilled out just fine.

[@emdotrod]

The AM4 will be the new meta of building budget gaming PC in the future. The boards and processors are getting cheaper, and with the right board you can upgrade it all the way to Zen 3 processor so it will still age very well. Even if you start with quad core Zen 2 processor like this, the performance is still decent enough for gaming as long as you set your expectations.

[@droson8712]

They should honestly keep Zen 2 or 3 around as a good budget option, I don't think it would hurt them in any way and is great for budget buyers

[@da1punisher]

Yup. Choosing AM4 made Steve the CLEAR winner in my book. Regardless of game performance with the present configs. Iceberg has no CPU upgrade path with that old platform. Where as Steve's will take a 5800X3D for top shelf gaming, or a 5900X/5950X for a good blend of productivity and gaming performance. Having 32GB of DDR4 3200 is another great benefit for the price tag. I'll put it this way: if I was choosing between them, I wouldn't even give Iceberg's a second glance. Steve's is good enough now, with room to improve massively as funds become available. Iceberg's OTOH, I'd have to completely replace the guts. Have to ding Iceberg for not having full windows 11 compliance and requiring InSpectre to turn off security mitigation. Neither are a big deal and easy enough to get around, but still have to deduct points IMO.

[@droson8712]

@@da1punisher The MSI VDH is also a great motherboard that could definitely handle a 5800X3D given enough wattage as a sort of final upgrade

[@brokeandtired]

@@OV3RDRIVE24 built a Ryzen 5 5500 PC early last year, now with a RX6650XT (Christmas purchase ) it's a beast.

[@darthwiizius]

@@OV3RDRIVE24 My current PC is a 5500/2060Super build. It's all I need ATM.

[@Blazepointfive]

The backyard never ages 🗿

[@RandomGaminginHD]

😁

[@burrfoottopknot]

@@RandomGaminginHD Could you include your pet dog in a video please, he / she looks like a real computer geek that loves bits and "Bytes"!

[@manuelhernandez2017]

Ryzen 9 Sticker = Free Performance Love that shit!!!

[@RandomGaminginHD]

😁

[@technologicalelite8076]

Edit: Lol, love the mockery of "The Rivals". Just came from Iceberg's video, was glad to see you uploaded just an hour ago. 2 of some of my favorite budget baller reviewers doing quite the collab! (Though I am not a budget baller, bout to get a 4080 S, It is very interesting to see what older hardware can do). I'mma watch the rest of the video, but I would love to see more collabs and more creators like Dawid Does Tech Stuff!

[@nikkoman857]

Dang that motherboard and cpu deal is crazy. I got a 1500x for 25 bucks and thought that was good

[@Monarchias]

I love that CPU. First of it's kind, and it's still giving. And has 16MB lvl3 cache, just as the 3100. Also 1500X has 384KB lvl1 cache, 1.5x more, than the 3100. But around 3 years older CPU.

[@darthwiizius]

@@Monarchias That's quite interesting about the L3, I had the R7 1700 and that had 16MB which means the 1500X never had any burned out from the two core complexes. I can see uses where the 1500X will beat the 8 cores purely through it's per core cache availability, or at least give it a damn good run for it's money.

[@Monarchias]

@@darthwiizius I am not sure it could beat the 1700. I wonder if the lvl1 cache, because it's 1.5 times more allocated than what we have in the 3100, could beat the 3100. It might be a relevant point in a comparison. Or not.

[@darthwiizius]

@@Monarchias It's a bit faster on the base clock than a 1700 but who runs the base clock? I suppose they'd run basically the same on low core leveraged stuff, but you might be able to get a bit more from the boost clock, my 1700 could get up to 3800Mhz but I ran it at 3750 because it started getting hotter than a fission reaction above that.

[@EhEhEhEINSTEIN]

I hope both of you keep these machines. Would be cool to see ver 2 in 6 months with another 200 for upgrades

[@TheChiro2000]

That's a good idea

[@darthwiizius]

£200 on this box could make a huge difference, I'd just change the GPU personally because by the time you sold this one off you could replace it with a 2080 and still have a few shekels to add a bit more cheap storage. Of course, in 6 months you'll get more for your £200 but less back for the GPU.

[@Ciffer-1998]

but that would be unfair as the goal here was just getting the best stuff you can get for the money, so one of them has an easy upgrade path while the other would need to change half of the stuff

[@xrror]

Just a heads up, that power supply that was originally in the donor case is a Delta, which are pretty much one of the top tier PSU makers. Worst case check to see if it has any bulging capacitors in it, replace em and then load on the adapters to re-use lol. Back in the day, the unicorn PSU was trying to find anything they built as the OEM for any consumer PSU brand, but sadly it was very rare. They just don't seem to have much interest in dealing with the end-user market sadly.

[@blakecasimir]

FSP make some non-oem units, they are also a stalwart PSU maker. The issue with the Delta in that case was only really it simply didn't have enough grunt for gaming.

[@xrror]

@@blakecasimiroh yea, for sure probably not the best match for this build. Was just trying to say it's not totally junk, and could be still be useful for another budget build. Also looking at the label on that PSU, that'd be a retroPC beast - check out the amps on the 3.3v (20A) and 5v (16A) rails =D Though I doubt RG is going to be doing much OG Athlon Slot A testing ;)

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

Nowadays just get a Corsair rm850x and call it a day.

Try making a $100 Gaming PC next time but the video production was amazing!

[@dlmunlimited]

That is a really a though challenge. He would have to skip the dedicated graphics card and go for a cheap APU, and at that level I am not sure you could call it a "Gaming PC".

[@aleksazunjic9672]

@@dlmunlimited 3200G probably 😁 Well, it could still run games from PS4 era at 720p, but I'm not sure $100 would be possible even with this.

[@misterhoudi2824]

Facebook marketplace.

[@sihamhamda47]

@@aleksazunjic9672 3200G is still around $50 today, so building it with only $100 would be almost impossible. I think i5 4590 with GTX 750 is the best bet for $100 budget

[@RobertFixit]

Check out my $100 build. It was really difficult!

[@pharmdiddy5120]

That was some impressive bargain hunting for both of you!

[@BrandanFischer]

Something interesting about 500 series chipsets is that they actually do support older Ryzen CPUs. I managed to get an ASUS TUF A520 motherboard to work perfectly with a Ryzen 5 2600x. I was under the same assumption that previous gen Ryzens didn't work but to my surprise it did for me! My assumption is that some manufacturers put out BIOS updates for 500 series motherboards later on that brough support for older processors, very interesting.

[@toomanydogs1527]

I ran a R5 1600 on the same MSI A520M-A PRO I'm using now with a R5 4500. So yeah, they go even further back.

[@uglybob7505]

Loving the "old school" front of that case. The optical drive is great looking in my opinion as are the front facing ports. I quite fancy doing a sleeper build that looks like that style, thanks for sharing mate 🙂

[@HarimeNuiChan]

I love both channels im very happy you guys worked together for a friendly competition

[@iitzfizz]

Always impressed at the parts you find at such great prices. Being in the UK I know that parts usually aren't as plentiful as in the US or other places so kudos!

[@Michael-dm6hb]

I haven’t kept up with the whole PC scene since about 2017 and watching what is considered budget now to back when I was into computers is crazy. Offtopic but the fact I can get a used 1080 for 150 is crazy to me

[@RealEclipsed]

He may have forgotten about this challenge, but he still managed to do it within 2 days of the iceberg one.

[@Agh0sty]

Iceberg definitely deserves all the communal love he is getting. And so do you RG! Two awesome creators

[@NukaOrQuantum]

The performance is quite solid for the price. I can't believe such a small price would have remedied my issue of not being able to play games on a 10700 iGPU all those years, lol.

[@Holycurative9610]

The RX580 is fast becoming my goto card for budget builds as it's great performance for between 60-75 GB£ and a lot easier to source than a low profile card for an Optiplex build...

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

It's just annoying seeing how much power that thing draws for the performance, not amazing efficiency lol which is kind of a big deal in the UK with electricity costing what it does. My undervolted 4070ti consumes only 25w more power than a 580 for reference.

[@nesyboi9421]

By the way, random tip if having to source a GPU for Dell optiplexs or similar, the WX4100 is great price to performance, has more VRAM than a low profile 1050 at 4GB instead of 2GB, and only takes the one slot so it fits in those ones where the X16 slot is the lower one for some reason. It may be a workstation card but I got it to play most of the games I play on my actual build, though with reduced settings. Performed very similarly to my old GTX 1050 4GB laptop. It is also priced similarly, or lower than a GTX 1050. The main things holding it back are that the stock fan curve is really bad at keeping the card cool, so you have to run a program to ramp it up higher, the noise from said fan change, and workstation drivers do mean you are losing out on performance, otherwise I think it would perform better than a 1050 4GB or 1050 ti as opposed to rivaling it.

[@dvolutionz6950]

Iceberg tech !

[@jayshannon9577]

I’m glad you tried the R3 3100. I just found one for $30 in my local market and paired it with a 5700xt I found for $100 and a B350 motherboard. I think it’s a fantastic little chip.

[@kenos6939]

I luckily found a 3300x with the cooler for 35 euros

[@itsdokko2990]

that AMD card is stupidly good for the price. Best purchase i've done in a long time

[@kierenalvarez]

5700xt won't run at full potential with a 3100 behind it. Even a nox xt card will be bottle necked. 3500 is really the minimum for the xt if you want the most from it. Especially if a background task decides it needs some core time! For 30$ though... it's fantastic chip! Hopefully it tames your space heater a little!

[@xtzyshuadog]

I'm impressed by what you can find when buying used. The lowest prebuilt I've gotten refurbished was an HP Victus with 5600G and RX 6400 at $250. Generally I see sales at retailers at $700-$900 for laptops with mobile 4050s and desktops with 3060s. I can't believe you can reach such FPS with £200, I remember seeing a laptop with GT 750M for $1000 ten years ago and you've beaten it for a fraction of the price. Time flies, and part prices sure do go down to my applause.

[@xtzyshuadog]

Or going into console, a deal for a new Xbox Series S with controller for $150. But the freedom a PC OS gives is magical.

[@AlexHusTech]

*Icebreaker...shots fired lol got my popcorn ready* 🍿👀

[@shieldtablet942]

For the HDD cases that usually block GPUs, you can use a small drill on the rivet and it will come loose very easily. Just use low speed, wear some glasses and keep your hands away from the drill. Usually you just have the case's own weight holding it and securely hold the drill with both hands. This is vary soft aluminum on the rivet and a mm or two will set it loose. Do it with an empty case and thoroughly shake the debris of.

[@jonathan1583]

This collab session is the best I've seen well done Steve

[@MoniFps]

"The Rivals... i mean, The Finals" I see what you did there.

[@bluej511]

Damn nice build Steve. I still have an x370/470 boards laying around.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Great boards :)

[@jamesherman3750]

KZbin hasnt been recommending me your videos lately..... Glad that you're still uploading

[@tyre1337]

iceberg's motherboard and ram swap was not fair, you win

[@ilovelimpfries]

If you're on budget, rx580 is the only option. These things are ridiculously cheap. You find them for less than $50 easily.

[@Zola_RSN]

That GPU holds up surprisingly well, i recently played Callisto Protocol on it, medium-high settings with FSR on balanced and with RT Reflections in 1080p, it was at 60FPS for the most of the time, with dips to 45FPS. I was very surprised.

[@Swept69]

Finally you uploaded your vid on this 😭

[@RandomGaminginHD]

😁

[@MSB-Benchmarking]

@@RandomGaminginHD Can you do the cheapest laptop to run Spiderman remastered? At like 30-40FPS at Low. My parents are running short on money and I don't want to be a burden

[@GulmoharBloom]

​​@@MSB-BenchmarkingI can give some recommendations, but whats your budget? Like the min and max?

[@conorf8091]

@@MSB-Benchmarkingget a ps4….

[@ausnorman8050]

You can build some nifty machine's if you wait n shop around. My experience after just finishing a budget build myself, R5 3600 + 512gb WD Green M.2 for $160, 16Gb 3200mhz 8x2 for $55, Case with 550W PSU $40 and a 1660Ti for $150. Total of $415 AUD or 215 Pounds! Loved the video and great machine!

[@couriersix2443]

Way to go! I was hoping I’d get to see the response to his challenge video lol. And I’m glad to see that the ~$200 price range has a “consistent” performance level (more or less)…considering that’s also all I had to work with for my wife’s “starter” build I put together for her as a Christmas gift. It consists of an i7-8700 (had the stock cooler, but I replaced it with a Vetroo one for $18), 16GB (8GB x 2) of DDR4-2666, and a Asus B360M-A mobo. The GPU was a 1060 3GB (unfortunately this is the “weakest link”, but it was all I could find in time for Christmas for

[@Miauterminds]

I love this channel so much, it is like an archive that we can look back to at what type of system we could get for what price Never stop making videos!

[@denikec]

glad to see a collab with Iceberg! love both channels :)

[@lanelesic]

I am building with a loose 300 euro target. The 200 GBP(not good boy points) budget just forces some compromises I am not willing to take and that are detrimental overall when selling the computer later. Imagine having a 5700xt instead of that RX580, everything else the same. Or an R5 3600 instead of the 3100. 300 is the sweetspot.

[@XxmatixX6videosdiariosdenadav]

For 320 I built a pc with a 4790k and an rtx 2060. It's excellent

[@marius0448]

a 300$ build with 5700xt and 3600 would be crazy

[@lanelesic]

@@marius0448 its OR not and. Lowest I can find the R5 3600 was 65 euros and the 5700xt are above 150. With a b450 mobo, 16GB of ddr4 3200, and everything else it gets to 370 euros or more. Thats too much.

[@markbrettnell3503]

Finally your reply to Iceberg Tech! Been waiting for this.

[@rickh8380]

Nice friendly budget build. I'd be proud to own it with a better case. Thanks for sharing. Cheers

[@fooferbob9230]

No metal cutting needed. Just put an 1/8 inch drill bit through those rivets and the unwanted parts are out. Easy peasy.

[@ezecskornfan]

when you have patience and knowledge (which counts as preparation to make luck works) you always can pull put some magic here. Great job.

[@TheInnerHalo72]

I would love too see you organize a scrapyard wars type event with all the budget builder KZbinrs you can get ahold of. Maybe something like tech yes city's aeries where hes trying to trade up to a high end pc. Everyone could post weekly results over a 2 month span and see who has the best rig at the end of the "season"

[@Trick-Framed]

Great build for the money! I am mostly impressed. The only thing that I would change is the GPU. An RX 580 2048sp? You can get the RX 580 8GB used for $50 (£40) I found one on marketplace a couple months back for $40. I scooped it up.

[@AdamAmbrus]

4:18 others have probably long chimed in, but you can remove the rivets with a drill, the holes are then really clean :) i did this with my old cooler master silencio 550

[@Machistmo]

the 3600 sells for 50 Dollars US here in the states. That 90 MM fan in the back will do wonders for the noise profile.

[@Dr1ftop1a]

Nice! ,,The Rivals" have stood up to the challenge! GGWP :D

[@Artemis_WR]

the patience there is insane i went starting from the prebuilt route, and managed to get a 4790k + 32gb ddr3 and a gtx 1660 for a similar price, and this includes the 700w mwe v2 psu and 256gb ssd (+ i kept the 1tb hdd the pc came with)

[@Holycurative9610]

I got a similar type build, only 16gb of ram and a 1050Ti tho, for about GB175. The fact that we manage to find and build decent starter gaming rigs for under £200 proves it can be done but people nowadays want their 1st PC to have 8TB of storage and a 4090 in🤣🤣

[@Artemis_WR]

@@Holycurative9610 yea 🤣

[@maurice5402]

Crazy how good this thing performs. Better than my legion 5 laptop I bought for 800 a couple years ago

[@Lurch-Bot]

Your drive caddy is riveted in with pop rivets. You need a drill bit the size the stem of the rivet which is probably 3/16" or 5mm. Drill through the heads of the rivets (you see the backside or 'shop head' of the rivet when you look inside the case). You'll have to pop off the back panel and front panel to get to all of them. BTW, the RX580 and RX5500 have almost identical performance. I don't think you could get more GPU power in a build at this price point unless you lucked into a 'parts only' GPU that just has bad fans or something like that. You got really lucky with the board. I don't think the person who sold it knew what they were doing.

[@jozopako]

After one or two years, you can go for Ryzen 5600 with RX 5700 XT together for 100-150 dollars.

[@andrewszombie]

4:30 sometimes theyll just give you what they have in stock. I ordered a bunch of 16GB usbs and got 32GB usbs instead it was really sweet.

[@cairnex4473]

What a completely novel and unexpected concept for a video... I think you both did a great job.

[@TheSpotify95]

Also, I wouldn't be chucking out the Dell Optiplex any time soon, because they can still be useful machines if you just whack in a new GPU. Turning prebuilts into budget gaming rigs can still be useful.

[@xrror]

He probably knows that - what's nice is that the Vostro 230 (which pretty sure is what that was) actually uses standard mATX form factor and case connectors, unlike pretty much all of the Optiplex series. So you don't need to find and chop up old mobile PATA adapters to make ends to use things like the power button and case LEDs like you do on Optiplex cases, and it's not some franken puedo BTX mounting patten ;)

[@mtcoiner7994]

Fun collab. Everyone loves budget build show downs. You guys should do an FPS target video. Pick a few games and bench marks. Set a target frame rate and score. He who reaches the targets at the lowest price wins nothing. Could be a cool idea.

[@muqtadirshah7317]

TO be honest I did a 250 pound build here in australia, and I think it is much better than this build so consider this before you consider this one: NEW PARTS: Ryzen 5 5500, 77 pounds 16gb DDR4 Kingston Fury, 28 pounds b450 max 2, 46 pounds thermaltake psu, 25 pounds Second hand parts: 1660 super 67 pounds pc case 7 pounds

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

Me: Haha a 200 pound build let's see how that goes! Also me: *Slowly realizing my own specs are about the same +- 5%*

[@csgosniperelitepro]

FYI you can just use a small drill bit to pop out those rivets and that hard drive cage should come out

[@MrSamadolfo]

😀 eh buddy, those are Rivets, take the front cover off, then from the outside with a drill and a small drill bit drill out the center of the rivets, turn the case upside down and drill out the rest of the rivets, its best to take out the build before, don't risk metal flakes ending up in ur parts, afterwards wash out the case with soap n water and dry it

[@johneralddayrit7833]

I might say, your build (though has lack some performance) has some future proofing in mind, Ice's one has the Performance in hand, but lack of future upgrade paths. both builds are crazy for how cheap stuff you can get secondhand these days.

[@LORDOFDORKNESS42]

Honestly, for a budget rig, I'd personally kept that hard-drive holder intact. They're so much cheaper per megabyte, even if they're slower, so it's IMHO worth having at least one or two HDs even nowadays just for file storage.

[@1pcfred]

I like the case. I need SPDIF audio out. That's a limiting factor in hardware selection for me. As the feature only comes on premium motherboards. I've been thinking about just getting a sound card with it.

[@teaspoon966]

Two of my favorite channels. I hope you'll make more videos together.

[@TheKormor]

What i did for my my little brother for under 200£ -Antec AX20 -RX480 (Basically a lower clocked 580) - ASROCK P67 Mobo - i7 3770 - 500GB SSD Sandisk - Noctua NHU 12S - 16GB 1866 - CX450 Corsair PSU Runs like a charm for that price. With 20 more pounds i would have get him a 5500xt.

[@AllAloneInUK]

Have you overlocked the cpu? Those free additional 400Mhz on all cores did wonders for me:)

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Nice :)

[@TheKormor]

@@AllAloneInUK Do not wanted to go for extra steps, GPU is already maxed out in many games and i already took many hours trying to make 3rdGen I7 working on a 2nd Gen Mobo. But good to know !

[@evers6214]

Im really impressed by the motherboard, cpu, and ddr4 ram you found. Solid good deals

[@triptogenetica]

Viglen Genie cases make for a solid mATX build, and the front USB3 is nice too. If only the back panel came off, for easier access to mobo backplate - that's my only criticism! (The HDD mounting point is still worth using for a couple of Sata drives, so not sure why that was criticized here).

[@toufusoup]

Fantastic video, the collab we all needed. Cheeky little comment there about the “spray paint,” mate 😂 You know what’s weird? Ryzen 2000 works on B550 boards. They just never say they do. I plugged in a 2700X and it booted. Unsure if that was a fluke but to anyone that can’t score a R3 3100 it could be an option.

[@DemiGGawd]

U can’t OC it but yes it’s compatible.

[@makedaevilmage]

4:15 I usually just use a small drill bit to drill out the rivvets.

[@MUSiCK9]

This is the way to go. I had to drill out every single rivets on a HP Case that was made to not be upgraded at all and man. It was actually really fun to do that.

[@DeadPixel1105]

I follow your channel and Iceberg Tech. Nice little cross-over.

[@Trick-Framed]

I watched that documentary. They took the same route as the Endurance. It was a good one. They found her wreck a while ago.

[@micheledelmoro5898]

hello random gaming, heard the video at 7:15: i have a a b550 gaming plus from msi running fine with a r5 2600 even though it only states 3000 series and future processors. Maybe also your motherboard supports 2000 series ryzens. Still the 3100 is a great choice

[@HardWhereHero]

Challenge accepted, I think I got you both beat, but that's only because goodwill recently dumped off a bunch of "broken" hardware on us and a ton of it was actually working. We got a founders edition 980 still in the damn box, a GTX 1070 ti and tons of other stuff for under $100 bucks, we also found a NZXT Apollo in orange. I'm gifting it to my son when its finished. I might actually upload a video for it. For once. I am good with PC hardware but recording videos and editing them are not a strong suit. You and Iceburg are on the same level with me, we absolutly cannot stand to see usable hardware go to waste.

[@Personalinfo404]

just got a complete build with a i3-10100f and a 1070 for 250$. I think budget builds are going to be more readily available and for 1080P gaming will get more people into the PC gaming space.

[@jap7384]

keep the icebreaking quips coming stevie, I think they are really cool! lol

[@The_Did_it_to_Em_Society]

you should add armored core 6 to the test game lineup. runs very well despite being flooded with impressive effects.

[@BillyBoy444]

10:15 those old PSU's were probably buklt a lot better than some of the modern one. I can't say the same for the Chinese RX 580's though. My one had a noisy fan bearing out of the box and after a heaven benchmark run it developed a black screen 😩

[@1pcfred]

ELSA was a German company and was bought by the Japanese.

[@LurkingLarper]

Killer setup for the price. Makes me sad that the second hand market here in Finland is in such a sorry state compared to the UK. Well, at least I can dream of building an affordable PC for myself/someone else in the future through your videos.

[@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung]

I bought a Viglen Genie the other month, but it's a small form factor unit with an i3 7100. £40 on eBay and slapped a GT 1030, 1TB SSD and a DVD drive in it for a grand total of £116 Never heard of Viglen until then, but once I saw them the first time, they started popping up everywhere.

[@NeverGoon_CM]

Hope you upgrade soon. I had a 1030 and oh god did it perform like crap. I now have something better and the difference in games is insane. From 30 fps with minecraft shaders to 60fps, running assetto corsa at really medium garbage ish settings (compared to the other settings) at 30fps vs running with extremely high settings (shadow resolution and other stuff at near highest settings) at 30 up to 40fps, running some roblox games at max settings but max 40fps vs running at 50fps on those same settings (cpu bottleneck is the cause of there being such a low difference here. These fps are with both gpus on an i5 2400s and ddr3 ram. Plus they were on a pcie 2.0 bus instead of the 3.0 and 4.0 supported by the 1030 and my newer gpu) That better gpu : the rx 6400. Just like the 1030 it doesn't require power cables from the psu since it consumes less than the 75 watts the pcie slot provides. It also has low profile variants. Since it is an amd gpu that means you can use the adrenalin drivers which also allow you to use afmf frame gen unlike nvidia that absolutely requires a gpu from the latest generation to use its dlss frame gen. Plus you get fsr and a few other fun amd technologies that nvidia has an equivalent of but of course, only on the latest, expensivest gpus they have.

[@ELUSIVETURTLE16]

There’s a smaller YT channel that’s doing this exact thing in response to you and iceberg but on the US used market to compare.

[@eldibs]

Hey, now I'm not the only one who was accidentally shipped double the RAM. I got some DDR3 back in the day off eBay, I was trying to upgrade to 16GB from 8GB, so I ordered what was supposed to be 8GB. It wound up being 16GB, that was pretty cool. I actually still have it in a working computer too, it works great for my niece.

[@InitialiseDisk]

I built a really similar PC but used an i7 4770k, DDR3 and a hard drive. Looking back at it I could definitely have made improvements by not buying the prebuilt that I sourced some parts from. Built for around £220.

[@adam_s_brookes]

Z420 workstation with 64gb DDR3 1866, 250 SSD 1TB HDD for 72 pounds. 1680v2 for 28. Stable at 4.2ghz on stock cooler. Have ordered the Z440 cooler which is twice the size for 9 pounds. 100 pounds left for a GPU although my 1650GTX is working great using the Firepro v3900 that came with it for frame gen (running 40fps up to 60fps in Cyberpunk)

[@ignaciotomasi]

4:18 you could maybe drill the bolts, i think that might be a better solution than cutting them

[@MattTheriot]

Impressive! Especially the case and ram for the price.

[@thesaviorwolf8601]

Glad the RX 580 is still kicking. Ran that in my system with a Ryzen 2600 for 3 years. Good for 1080p but falling behind in new games and needs FSR. Got a 6800xt and a 5600x now and loving it for 1440p gaming.

[@kalliste23]

You should be able to drill out the rivets to get the drive cage out. Shouldn't take long.

[@notluminaire]

Don't even need a drill. Just use a flathead screwdriver and a small hammer

[@Farquid]

A wonderful place in everyones heart, what's considered e-waste is someones home museum. I love these types of build. Love the videos my guy.

[@ebm3199]

8:55, When I watched the Iceberg video yesterday I noticed he said The Rivals lol

[@paulisthebest3uk]

Fantastic video love these videos about benchmarks etc. I notice this pc HP S01-aF2004na is new pentium in Argos would love to see a video how that run games be interesting

[@justincase2312]

I've watched and enjoyed both videos. I do prefer this build. Even if the raw FPS number will be lower due to the GPU, having a system on a modern platform is a huge plus. When considering connectivity and upgradeability. And having a bit more trust in the motherboard compared to the X99 Chinese salvage parts.

[@Holycurative9610]

I bought my son a PC with a MSI mobo, i5-4690, a 1050Ti, 4 x 4GB DDR3 ram, a 512ssd and a 1TB HDD for about £160 (plus £15 delivery) then we stuck a wifi dongle on it for £7. He has already priced up some upgrades at his local CEX... He has played some AAA Steam games with the settings lowered and he's now found a good use case for Xbox cloud gaming. I think it would be nice to run some cloud gaming on these cheap systems so people know it's a viable alternative if you have a sub to Xbox, Nvidia etc. cloud gaming services. He gets about 50Mb on his dongle so plenty fast enough to play in the cloud.

[@johnnycarrotheid]

Well the 1050 and throw in an rx580 8gb. I have this as one of the systems in my house, it's frighteningly not a bad system at all

[@nenoman3855]

For the price, im surpised you didn't go for a case with a relatively more "modern" interior layout. I think i'd prefer the cheap flimsy aliexpress cases (a few of which have mesh front panels for airflow) without the annoying drive bays over the office boxes from the early 2000s bundled with sketchy PSUs.

[@popolkupol6948]

yeah the original random gaming in hd is always better on parts selection, so many upgrade path for future also

[@christianmino3753]

I have the same holder for my screws. The little tackle box thing. Is that standard for technicians? Lol

[@dgorry]

The rivets can be drilled out. The cage should be able to be removed once rivets are gone.

[@cj_zak1681]

great deal on that motherboard! All round, a great system for the price

[@fattomandeibu]

I think the issue with the second hand prebuilt is that these days it costs almost £200 to get one that isn't SFF and/or nastily proprietary.

[@kepler104]

I remember this case, I still have it, my first ever self-bought pc had it, which was i5 3470, 8gb ram and a 750ti. (the gpu was added later by saving more money)