Legends of Horizon Zero Dawn: Ted Faro

[@kratosgow09]

Today Ted Faro is still 5 yrs old, Let's get him before it's too late!

[@kaasmaster8892]

Sometimes to save inocents inocents have to die

[@stephenking5852]

Or… instead of killing a 5-year-old, let’s get him interested in something else!

[@hengkyleonhart]

If there is dlc to shot 3 stack of hardpoint arrow to him once i will buy it

[@moon2a379]

Some guy in the comment section claims his friends son is five and named theodore faro it’s probably fake though because they said that he was born in the same year and the same month but they don’t know what day which is very suspicious tbh

[@ThatsJustEric]

Symbol Guy like the bosses said in Goodfellas "Why risk it"

[@Nisselak]

It must be admitted that a considerable skill is needed to succeed in destroying the world TWICE in a row

[@flainfan]

What was the second time?

[@StrongandGrand]

​@@flainfan The first time was the Chariot line of 'peacekeeper' robots that went rogue and consumed humanity. He developed them without a reasonable backdoor to regain control or shutdown. He somehow managed to almost top that by deleting the APOLLO sub function of GAIA, which housed all of humanity's history. And right after telling the Alphas (lead programmers of GAIA and the subfunctions) of his action, he killed them. Most likely due to them possibly rebuilding the system. He justified it by saying it was knowledge that destroyed the world. These innocents deserve to not have knowledge cloud them. By deleting APOLLO, the new humans would have to start over, instead of building from the successes and mistakes of the past. I think this asshole just didn't want to be known as the person who caused the near eradication of humanity and the destruction of our entire civilization. And I'm not alone in that theory.

[@flainfan]

Erasing a record of human history isn’t the same thing as destroying the world.

[@StrongandGrand]

@@flainfan I understand your view. The way I see it is that everything we accomplished as a species was destroyed in a physical sense due to the robots. Including us. Ted destroyed the records himself. The history, knowledge, sciences, and other advancements that was discovered and improved upon through millennia is gone now. The humans that came from the bunkers didn't have the items themselves or the knowledge of them to progress. Well, if you don't include the metal creatures that inhabited the world. He basically pushed the reset button.

[@flainfan]

I agree that he basically hit the reset button on society. Still the primitive society that formed as a result does mean that they, probably, won’t end up creating a second Faro Plague.

[@jonathangilbert7194]

I want this game to be a major series. The story is just too rich with lore

[@TheBlazersfan22]

Agreed. I feel like aloy will be the lost apollo. She will learn her way with that thing in her eye to humanity survival

[@Marg_Sabl]

Well my friend, you’re in luck

[@jonathangilbert7194]

@@Marg_Sabl I hope so. I would love to see this game become the next assassins creed or something like that. The story is just so amazing

[@FalloutJack]

I too am eager for the next game. This was good. Ted was an insufferable idiot, but the game was good.

[@jmaguilarr]

yes , me too, good script

[@avyntide]

I think the most effective aspect of HZD’s backstory is that it is entirely believable, Faro automated solutions’ story is so dystopian yet so genuine and eerily close to possible in the real world

[@Social_Pugatory]

Faro is emblematic of all the technocrats and Silicon Valley types who were so focused on ego and ambition in STEM for profit and glory that they neglected the humanities all their lives. Just brilliant narcissistic sociopaths who’s only goal is to make lots of money and be revered like a God for their brilliant sociopathic minds. To me, HZD is a layered commentary on the way in which free market capitalism and Big Tech NOW could lead to our assured demise socially, politically, and economically in the future under the guise of futurism with it really just being good old corporate greed. I mean we elected a reality TV star with no political experience as president. Nothing is far fetched after that has become our reality. I see Scientific discovery and “progress” could definitely be used to propagate some terrible shit like Faro did in HZD.

[@LOUNGELIQ]

Elon Musk

[@shawnmclaughlin7418]

@@Social_Pugatory easy there lefty before he was a reality star he was a Real estate and business magnate. The trump brand was already thriving. The apprentice jyst amplified it. Leave 45 out of it and your comment is solid. But as soon as you express TDS forget it no one is listening.

[@LiquidIEx]

Yes but the setting is too early. If they moved the old story about 100 years into the 22. century it would fit better. Horus robots and the whole technology in the 2050s are just way to near in our own timeline and therefore way too unrealistic. If its Sci Fi then move the setting into the real future!

[@josephventura961]

I agree. How crazy is it that he made two horrible world ending decisions?

[@marcusk3860]

I think what makes Faro such a good villain is that he's not a "good" villain; he's not a fun, wacky, or sympathetic character who reveals in the ways of evil. I never found myself enjoying Faro throughout the story, he isn't a Disney villain; he's not activity malicious, his evil comes from the same place as real evil; bluntness and deadly stupidity combined with deep insecurity hidden by outwards expertise. Couple that realism with the fact that the robot apocalypse could become a very considerable possibility in the near future, that a little glitch or keyboard stroke could lead to something like this - it all makes Faro a superbly written character. This was the first post-apocalypse story that made me truly feel and grasp the huge tragedy of an apocalypse, and I think my unbridled rage and hatred every time Faro was on screen greatly contributed to that or vice versa.

[@samuelmiller1480]

Underrated comment

[@user-fy4zc9rs5e]

Ted Faro is the worst Villain, and yet we can't kill him, that make us fell so uneasy

[@stephanepoirier5582]

Had Ted Faro not killed the Project Zero Dawn Alphas and wiped out Apollo he would have been a guy who while evil with a small 'e' had made a mistake - a colossal mistake but still a mistake - but with that pair of actions he revealed himself to be unredeemable and a narcissist. Evil with a big 'e'. God I hated that guy.

[@lordrald09]

@@stephanepoirier5582 Dude was still Evil (with capital E). I mean he was source of all the shit that's happened. Dude turned from a guy who combatted climate change to a warmonger that made war his business to eventually dooming the earth. Who with their sane minds will make a basically autonomous robot who can replicate its army and use biomass (aka literally any and all life) as fuel, be virtually unhackable, isn't susceptible to EMP, and most important of all, don't have any sort of kill switch. This reminds me of an overly used quote; "You were so preoccupied on whether or not you COULD, that you never stopped to think on whether or not you SHOULD".

[@stephanepoirier5582]

@@lordrald09 "You were so preoccupied on whether or not you COULD, that you never stopped to think on whether or not you SHOULD". I believe one of Faro's engineers who was recruited for project Zero Dawn more or less said the same thing. Too true.

[@eliv8468]

Great video. I felt like Ted could not let Elizabet one up him. In his farewell to her, he appears defeated. Stating Elizabet became a savior and martyr all at once. He became blind and felt like he could improve Elizabet’s plan to get the last “good” deed in.

[@addisonwelsh]

I always felt the same way. Everyone says he destroyed Apollo to erase his role in the death of the world, but that never sounded right to me.

[@EclecticallyEccentric]

@@addisonwelsh It could be both, but I don't think that alone would be the reason. And I think Faro truly would be blind enough to view purging the world of human knowledge and culture as a good thing.

[@writershard5065]

@@addisonwelsh I don't think he wanted to erase his role in the death of the world either, but rather he genuinely wanted to do something good. But because of his massive ego, he thought simply deleting Apollo would be a fantastic idea. I also think this might be a case of the Investor not feeling like they are contributing to the project. In real life, investors can sometimes feel like their money isn't indicative enough of them being a contributor to the project, so they suggest changes that they believe is right (even though they aren't good creators, hence sometimes fucking up the final product). I think this is what Ted Faro felt, except on a much bigger scale.

[@DrHydra47]

I truly believe that Ted Faro wasnt deleting everything on Apollo just to hide his role He sounded actually desperate to show the Alphas that teaching the next human generation our history would repeat it again not just the technological wonders but also the bad ones like an atom bomb or WMDs but as we can see in the world of Horizon people just evolved into tribes and civilization that are kind of close to what our ancient civilization was so at the end nothing changed

[@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human]

He's basically an alternate universe Tony Stark who never got captured by the Ten Rings terrorists in Gulmira, and kept on producing deadlier and deadlier weapons to sell to the highest bidder.

[@Tahkaullus01]

The difference though is that Tony Stark did have other pursuits besides military armaments before his stay in Afganistan. "Tell me, do you plan to report on the millions we've saved with the improvements of medical tech or kept from starvation due to our intelli-crops? All those breakthroughs? Military funding, honey." I suppose he felt the good SI did with that balanced out the bad. I mean he was wrong, but that ultimately wasn't his fault. Faro on the other hand just sold whatever he could to the highest bidder with no thought to other approaches. Remember he scrapped the eco-restoration method as soon as the military market opened to him.

[@FullBeardSk8]

no

[@Gungelion]

The following contains spoilers for forbidden West Thoughts on the fate of Ted Faro -transformed himself into as much a monster on the outside as he was on the inside -trapped with nothing but the sound of his own voice for millennia (don't know if he was awake the whole time or not) -if he was awake, may have been in constant pain for millennia -killed because of a insane lunatic consumed by his own ego -basically burned at the stake -his entire temple to himself sank into molten lava as if he and said temple were physically thrown into the depths of hell .... Yeah, considering everything he's done and I would say that's pretty appropriate

[@jacobrobinson787]

Indeed. And let him be forgotten.

[@adacsac]

Frozen Wild Spoilers ahead: in one of the data points, there was something about a terrorist attack against a company that wanted to extend human life and one dude actually was receiving treatments to extend it. I swear to the gods if Ted Faro is still alive imma throw my controller at the tv but I low key want to fucking fight him in the sequel too lol

[@tobor88]

He's not going to be a fight. He'll struggle and squirm and beg for his life as you strangle the life from him.

[@Sajuuk01]

Bryan Cubero “Strangled by a clone of Elizabet Sobeck” as a cause of death would be entirely too appropriate as the full stop at the end of Teddy Faro’s Big Book of Fuck-Ups.

[@coltonwilliams4153]

If Aloy does find him, the exchange will probably be like this: Ted: Elisabet?! Aloy: You bastard! Ted: Oh my god, it is you. Wait, what are you doing with that spear?! Don’t-! Stop-!

[@andreastrange3429]

That would be amazing!

[@BattlestarDamocles]

He is still alive, I feel it. It's him who sent the signal to Gaia.

[@ashiel035]

So because of his greedy ambition he created the Chariot line of robots that would become the eradicators of the world, and then to add more insult to injury he then wiped out all knowledge from Apollo and killed off the remaining future teachers of the future generations of humans. He's no hero, he was an ambitious greedy bastard before, and by the end a harbinger of Chaos.

[@trajano777]

Bastard was not worried about the "curse" knowledge would be, he was worried future generations would know he ruined the world for everyone! People like that are why we can not have nice things.

[@CaptainPilipinas]

indeed. Greed that he was and those who helped him still closely during his implementing of 'backdoors' during the structure of the ZD facility.

[@jorgechavarria4799]

But at the end of the day, no matter how hard he tried to buried his action, the humans of the future somehow found and understood that he was the one who destroyed the world TWICE

[@trajano777]

@@jorgechavarria4799 weird honor to have. "You ruined civilization? B*#$ ! Hold my beer! I ruined the world twice! In like less than a year!"

[@jorgechavarria4799]

@@trajano777 Weird flex but ok 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@armboyo211]

Ted faro might have made a cycle. They go back to tribes, same thing happens that happened with ted, and they go back to tribes again.

[@LostMercenary99]

Ted Faro's face is the accompanying image to the word BASTARD in the dictionary

[@kyoza5069]

And "fuckwad"

[@willyXIII]

He's next to "dipshit" as well.

[@drosnelochmir6346]

Never have I ever hated a fictional character since Geoffrey Baratheon of GOT (wonderfully acted by Jack Gleeson btw).

[@meiinuyasha]

you mean abby for last of us 2

[@talesj1987]

I just finished HZD in PC. I gotta say this guy is definitely one of the most hateful villain in video game history for me ever. turning mankind into ignorant fools is much worse than killing them.

[@cuckoophendula8211]

I definitely don't have any empathy for Ted Faro myself, but I can see why the writing had him go mad in such a way. This was a guy whose hubris was made possible because of the culmination of mankind's knowledge. Through his twisted mind and guilt for destroying the world, he concluded that not having such knowledge in the first place could have prevented his biggest mistake. Meanwhile, this does make me think a little bit about the theme of humanity having access to technology that it was not ready for during the past 100 years. Hypothetically, we'd only be ready for such things if we first had clear philosophical values of collective responsibility. Thus, I think the greatest tragedy from Ted Faro's actions may not be him wiping out humanity's accumulated knowledge, but him wiping out all of humanity's accumulated wisdom along with it.

[@tylerleecooper]

​@@cuckoophendula8211 could not agree more with you on that last point, and I am very keen to see if the new game shakes things up a bit in regard to apollo's apparent fate.

[@opromlie2272]

I think its a bit different from most of the comments here but here me out: The creators of GAIA were quite literally picturing not a “rebirth” of humanity, but a “continuation.” The people who emerged from the Cradles were meant to continue humanity as it was before the Swarm: better educated, hopefully more aware, but the same culture and society and humanity of the ‘Old Ones.’ That was pretty explicitly Zero Dawn’s goal. They didn’t “want” the Nora or Carja or Oseram; they didn’t imagine it. The society of the past had issues. Ted was a terrible person, but a product of their societies and time. Terrorism was a huge problem, as was war, corporations as nations, and the implied inequality and wealth crisises we see in many datapoints. The Cradle/APOLLO kids would have been given a thorough liberal education and taught the mistakes of the past, but at the same time they were imagined to be very much a continuation of that past. Instead, without APOLLO, not only did humans miss obtaining technology, they lost their intended history. Humanity fractured into new, unplanned and unimagined social and cultural groups. They created religions, but also created art and architecture and fashion that would not have existed, period, in a “humanity 2” model. They avoided some of “old humanities” flaws and introduced new ones. It’s unquestionable that without APOLLO, human society is not what it was intended to be, not advanced in planned ways, religious and reactionary and ignorant. But it’s also diverse, creative, and unique. It’s hard to compare the two outcomes, because to have one automatically erases the other. With APOLLO, there would be no Carja or Oseram. Without APOLLO, there is no continuation of humanity as it once was. I think that if Samina (Alpha of APOLLO) could see society as it turned out without APOLLO, she’d be fascinated but that also doesn’t mean she doesn’t regret APOLLO’s loss. I don’t think you can really pick one over the other, because both versions of humanity have strengths and flaws… but they’re also both completely, mutually incompatible. All I can say is I dont know if it was good or bad because in the end we get this beautiful and fascinating world Aloy lives in. :)

[@talesj1987]

@@opromlie2272 i think it's bad. mankind progress by learning from our own mistake. by resetting their progress, they have returned to being savages. they have to waste their time progressing culture and technology instead of inheriting and improving on our culture. in my opinion, those tribes and wild animals aren't so different.

[@1957DLT]

The combination of Maker's End and Gaia Prime instances are like emotional gut punches. Doesn't matter how many times you replay, you still are affected. Such terrific writing.

[@fenderguitar85]

Agreed. I just replayed for the first time since it was released and the story was just as good the second time around, if not better. I am really excited about the next installment.

[@R.DeMora]

Those are the audiologs I always come back for.

[@omegalyger1]

In the game we know what became of Gaia, Apollo, and hades. If a sequel is in works, The main question should be asked is: what happened to the other programs

[@crazytrain111]

And what happened to Faro.

[@matthewscottshea]

Late post here, but some functions are known. Most obvious is Hephaestus. It made all the cauldrons, including the one in Frozen Wilds, the purpose of which was to make machines to teraform the Earth to a livable state. It kept making creatures more and more capable of defending themselves in response to humans attacking them (nothing to do with Hades plan). It however ran amuck like Hades and now operates itself like a virus. The second is Demeter who is responsible for plant life and the metal flowers spread everywhere. Most other functions simply did their job of detoxification and animal life, etc. The most important, however, I feel will be Eleuthia in regards to the sequal. That is the one in charge of the human cradle facilities (meaning more than the one in HZD). Hades will still be a threat and Hephaestus will continue to make monsters stronger to defend themselves, but the other functions shouldn't pose any threat. I am looking forward to who the "Masters" are though. I feel like Faro, alive or dead, will have some role in regards to this.

[@craigharvey-gurr337]

Matthew Shea I’m hoping Poseidon and the other programs will be in the sequel.

[@ske-pho3049]

The real question is: where did the signal come from?

[@Nimbus3690]

We also know about eleuthia

[@itzdcx]

Imagine if he was somehow able to cryo-freeze himself

[@soularth]

god i wish i had the opportunity to kill him in game but there was a log in game saying freezing people still didnt work

[@jmaguilarr]

who knows , in the script didn't toll us is committed suicide or escape to space ....

[@skins4thewin]

Oh god I hope he was able to somehow. I want to see Aloy drive her spear thru his egotistical ass chest.

[@minhaankhan5072]

@@skins4thewin lmao 😂

[@freshFerdinand]

I totally want him to live, just so he can see how he fucked up, and tell everyone of the Faro Plague and that he's responsible for it, so he knows that he didn't even manage to erase his deeds from the history books.

[@jeremyjensen3981]

I caught something I thought interesting just last week on my latest play-through. When Elisabet threatens Ted to get him to sign the blank check to pay for Zero Dawn, she says "or I will tell them the real cause of the glitch". Why would she say the real cause of the glitch and not something like why Faro can't regain control of the swarm? Ted gave Elisabet access to all his company files to try to find a way to stop the machines. Is it possible that Elisabet found out that Ted himself sent the signal that caused the swarm to go out of control? Possibly he was trying to cause some competitor robots to go out of control and the signal backfired on his own machines or he had some other demented, sinister reason. Anyway, I thought it was strange for Elisabet to phrase it that way, and it also shut down any further argument from Ted.

[@MrsKittykatt009]

she was probably referring to Faro's decision to have the swarms basically unhackable and to have his programmers not even leave a "backdoor in code" in the machines, thats what i got out of it

[@Aditya21420]

There is a datapoint in which Ted Faro is talking to his employees saying that he wanted to switch production from automated platforms to Human driven platforms. From this I think that Ted deliberately introduced a glitch in the chariot line, hoping to spark off a Human vs Machine war. He probably wanted to make more money from the war but the glitch got out of hand.

[@Sajuuk01]

Aditya21420 I’m not so sure. The impression I got was that Ted and other “Need to Know” members of the company knew things had gone badly wrong and that unhackable humans would need to take the fight to them. It feels like he was trying to justify the sudden-but-necessary shift in production priority without causing concern or admitting guilt over the error to his other employees, rather than having deliberately caused the Glitch.

[@Aditya21420]

@@Sajuuk01 You could be right of course. But as mentioned in the original comment when you reach the top of Mother's Rest and are viewing the holographic meeting between Ted and Elizabeth there is a point where Elizabeth threatens Faro saying that he either agrees to fund Zero Dawn or she reveals the real cause of the glitch. This statement along with Ted's fore knowledge of what was going to happen leads me to believe that Ted deliberately introduced the glitch that caused the machines to go rogue.

[@Sajuuk01]

Aditya21420 Hmm. You raise a good point. I’m not entirely convinced but it is still a valid argument. In the recording you mention (do you mean the one at the top of Makers End?) it always came across to me as Elizabet threatening to reveal that it wasn’t just a random glitch, but a random glitch combined with Ted being a micromanaging f***wit forbidding the inclusion of a backdoor access that set this miserable downward-spiral in motion. I guess there’ll be a good argument to be made for either theory, until more conclusive evidence appears at least. *Hint-hint, Guerrilla Games!* ;D

[@linuswulff03]

Imagine if it was Ted who send the unknown signal that destroyed Gaia prime. Maybe he made himself an AI or something

[@EclecticallyEccentric]

Johnny Depp liked that.

[@michaelkoutek807]

The guy was sooo.... prideful he was willing to damn the world indefinitely as long as his involvement wasn't mentioned.

[@Chaos-Kitchen]

This is why we need to keep on eye on Gates and Zuckerberg

[@BigTwonLT]

Listen man...Elon Musk needs to play Horizon

[@rachelbradley7780]

Just think - there could be someone out there with the same name yelling "I'm not THAT Ted Faro!" every time he meets someone who knows or has played horizon.

[@MarauderM00gi]

...was Ted wrong, though? With only a sliver of tech, humans committed horrible genocide with the Red Raids. It could be a pipe dream to think Apollo could have quelled humanity's desire for power and conquest.

[@TheScorpion0081]

Could Apollo have prevented it? Most likely, since it was done in the belief that the son is a deity that demands blood. Something that WE know is not the case and would have been passed down if Apollo wasn't destroyed. Humans are naturally violent, but there is a reason that there aren't roaming bands sweeping national like there were in the past.

[@Moyanskiondaspatyoriskiyow]

Hey man i love ur channel i just finish horizon zero dawn what i would really like is for guerilla to make a prequel for enduring victory

[@minhaankhan5072]

Imagine a first person shooter during operation enduring victory

[@ukzaaz8530]

They are working on an unknown new ip, supposedly it takes place in the world of horizon and it's an FPS!!!!

[@piratetv1]

I think it's possible ted is still Alive, or will return. His shelter was described as "the pyramid", and the name faro, spelled differently could be the key. You'll also find sobek, the crocodile god, who created, and protected life near the Nile. There's a lot of Egyptian lore in this story. If Ted does come back he will likely recognize aloy. what will he think of Elizabet, coming back 1000 years later to stop whatever ill conceived idea he has in horizon 2?

[@cobrazax]

and greek lore within gaia subsystems

[@piratetv1]

good point. i didnt realize how much of both is in the game. im playing assassins creed origins now and so much of the same lore is used

[@NeoDMC]

I think if they go with the themes they have built up. The idea of Ted taking Sobek’s ideas and warping them, this could be a possibility. The idea of creating Aloy was originally a Sobek idea. The possibility of Gaia needing constant maintenance, and requiring generations of helpers lead to the idea of the Alpha’s creating clones and training them to carry on their work. Of course it never came to that, but I can see Ted taking this idea, to ensure he survives in some way to see the fruits of Zero Dawn’s labor. Cloning himself through the centuries, training his next version to carry on the will of Ted into the future. I can see this clone being warped by the second hand teachings at this point, possibly thinking itself a literal god. Could also see him being responsible for the signal that made Hades go nuts.

[@serenemougharbel8035]

Ted maybe cloned his mind and he became the unknown origin thing.

[@ske-pho3049]

I think he is alive. When Aloy attempts to download the Alpha registry, right before Helis threw the bomb at her, the Omega symbol appears on the hologram. It is part of the phrase that is used as Omega Clearance when he deleted Apollo. I'd say he is watching in whatever form he may be in.

[@Jnb2009]

that was awesome man, this is the first video iv watch from your channel cant wait to see the others...I think ted faro is stay alive and his the one that sent the signal....horizon 2 i hope we get to see the bor7 Horus's came back to life!!!

[@RandomSideQuest]

Thanks so much! Very happy you enjoyed it :) If I may suggest, I think you'd enjoy the Lightkeeper Protocol next. Got some interesting possibilities for old Ted.

[@piratetv1]

I think possibly sylens sent the signal, maybe accidentally

[@cobrazax]

@@RandomSideQuest hey man awesome content...but... WHAT ABOUT THE HOLOGRAM IN THE SACRED MOUNTAIN?? "YOU HAVE TO STOP LISTENING TO TED AND START LISTENING TO ME". why is no one trying to analyze that? is she talking with travis? while hades is watching? (the source of the recording and why he can recognize Elizabeth)

[@jmcghane]

Only a fool would create something perfect without making a fail safe for it. That fool is you, Ted Faro.

[@Braud04]

My theory is that he is still alive, preserved by cryo tech (mencioned by Sylens). He transmited the signal to activate Hades ('cause he thought the world became to much violent (reason why he destroyed Apollo)); maybe Aloy will find him, in his shelter, in the Forbidden West.

[@ManiyaVinas]

How did that age?

[@hyperhurracan1324]

Well you guessed that right

[@Zushi_Tsunami]

The greatest crime is the destruction of knowledge.

[@stephenking5852]

The security he used on his Faro robots was poly-phasic entangled waveforms. It’s so advanced that a supercomputer could only crack it within 50 years. He wouldn’t even add a back-door, making it the most secure form of software. Because of this, he made it impossible for humanity to defeat the Faro Plague within 15 months.

[@cobrazax]

even minerva which was designed specifically to crack this...took 60 years to make it happen

[@SirAroace]

Ted Faro a symbol of the phrase: "The Banality of Evil"

[@commanderjavik6369]

This games lore is really something. Probably one of my favorites.

[@catvio1958]

!SPOILER FOR FORBIDDEN WEST! * * * * I’ve just finished Faro’s Tomb main quest in HFW, & I had to refresh my memory because it’s been a while since I played the first game so this video was a perfect explanation of Faro’s twisted story. I just have to say WOW. We all knew Faro had a big ego, but this quest really drives home how deluded he was. He essentially deleted Apollo so that he could be the only one left with all that superior knowledge and, with his plan to become immortal, present himself as some kind of God to be worshipped by the new life on earth. I never imagined that his narcissism would have warped into him truly believing he deserved to be a God after destroying the world not only once, but TWICE. The fact that he had to one up Sobeck because he didn’t want her to get the glory for saving any hope for life on earth & basically fixing his mistakes. I have to say, I had a strong feeling he would still be alive after listening to the first few audio data points in the quest, & I kept thinking this guy does not deserve to still be alive, BUT in the end his fate turned out to be extremely satisfying. To end up as nothing more than a brain dead, grotesquely mutated monster trapped in his bunker alone for nearly a 1000 years.. beautiful, even poetic in a twisted way. On one hand I kind of wanted to see what he looked like so I could revel in his miserable form, but on the other hand I think leaving his appearance to the imagination of the audience was so powerful since what we conjure up in our minds would be far worse than anything they could portray. Man am I impressed with how they executed his story. A perfect demonstration that human intellect mixed with the right amount of narcissism is essentially just a masked idiot. Knowledge is powerful but what we do with that knowledge speaks volumes. Amazing work by Guerrilla, eerily realistic.

[@MrAcehood321]

ted's ambition out grew him. once he saw that his dream was the earths undoing he scrambled to undo it but after time once he saw he could do nothing this made him spiral out of control in the end and make him feel like he knew what was best for the ones to come. to be honest who knows if teds thinking of getting rid of apollo had some merit. but in the end he should have respected Elisabet's wish's if he didn't respect the others. when i found out he was behind the deletion of apollo i was super anoyed. keep up the good work guys i am enjoying every video.

[@xzenitramx666]

im kinda afraid the son of one of my friends is ted faro hes 5 years old .....

[@RandomSideQuest]

He might go as Teddy or Theodore, keep your eyes peeled! Lol

[@xzenitramx666]

Random Side Quest hes name is theodor faro he was born in december of 2013 I dont remember the exact day

[@serenemougharbel8035]

Make do history or the world well end.😓😓😓😓

[@Apo_Ni_Baby_Kupal]

xzenitramx666 WTF?!

[@BigTwonLT]

Faro already exists...his name is Elon Musk

[@Fusionprogamer]

People forget Ted caused all this but he also protected us from hades by insisting on the override.

[@jacobrobinson787]

Don't kid yourself. He didn't do it to help people; he did it for control. The man wanted to be a god. Instead, he became a monster.

[@leila7254]

Faro was no engineer or scientist. It's said that he kept pestering the ZD Alphas for updates even tho he couldn't understand anything to their complex work. When he ordered the construction of the Chariot line, he didn't have the kind of foresight or caution that any seasoned scientist might have had. He gave orders, thinking only about his interests and how the success of the Chariot Line might contribute to his personal fame and glory. He was just a man-child with insatiable greed.

[@SnowBall7148]

We think Faro meant "To protect our pockets, innocents have to die". 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😂😂🤣🤣Typical usurers, reminds us of EA. 😆😆😆😆😆😆😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@jacobrobinson787]

huh... Interesting. Now I have a legitimate reason to hate Andrew Wilson - THANKS!

[@jonathanwessner3456]

That should be the next chapter in the game, the search for Faro's personal base. I'd also like to know more about the area to the west of the original maps, they talk of even more dangerous beasts.

[@ManiyaVinas]

How did that age?

[@jonathanwessner3456]

@@ManiyaVinas pretty well. We even get to see how Ted died

[@nbmoleminer5051]

Another great one keep up the good work :)

[@RandomSideQuest]

Thanks so much!

[@kktt1111]

Wild theory, but could Faro have sabotaged the doors knowing that Elisabet would sacrifice herself to seal them? That would remove the only person who could've potentially prevented APOLLO's purge

[@ejoy78]

I think you may be on to something there!

[@CaptainPilipinas]

I thought about it recently too but I didn't want to go further into it hauntingly. [sighed]

[@sovigndev5464]

He better fuckn not of! I’m already way too angry at a fictional character

[@FJF1085]

There really needs to be a game or a DLC where you get to smash his face in. Also, I’m still dying to know where Omega level clearance came from.

[@sovigndev5464]

I would pay full price for a game where the only content is just beating the shit out of em

[@horrorfan117]

After the disaster of the Faro plague I’m fairly sure he made sure to have a back door for his personal use built into to any project he funded.

[@FJF1085]

@@sovigndev5464 Same.

[@kitsune106d]

I found the servant and bodyguard bots were called the Alfred line... batman's butler... that's... amazing.

[@jeggoregis8855]

coming back to this after knowing what we know while playing forbidden west makes me absolutely abhor this man

[@diyamehta9284]

I bet the reason he deleted Apollo was only to fuel his self preservative nature, and under the guise of not 'harming his image in the future' he wiped Apollo's archives, because if Future Generations were to know that the loss of life on Earth was because oh *his* overconfidence and *his* wrongdoings, his image of the person who saved the world would be tainted, and he'd be forever immortalized as the guy who destroyed it. This didn't help his mental state, and knowing that the Alphas, or at least, Samina primarily, would never agree to alter the truth about the history of what happened, he took the most drastic step ever, fueled only by his paranoia, and ego.

[@thomasmcquillian8673]

Faro is a real company by the way

[@Gabii525]

I love these series of videos, you really dig in! I find Faro such a character. So intriguing. We never meet him, yet a player can have strong feelings towards that....asshole. Yet, with all that weight on his mind, it’s not even surprising. Look forward to more content of you, of any game. Cheers!

[@Rellana1]

I'm wondering if why he waited until Elisabet died to do this,is because her security clearance could override his "Omega access" code.

[@coltonwilliams4153]

@@Rellana1 Maybe he was afraid that Gaia would find a way to tell her. Or that, if anyone could find what he hid in Gaia’s programming, it’d be Elizabet.

[@Darklarik3]

This guy saved the world, then doomed it. Man, what a roller coaster.

[@dvader518]

I think we can all agree that Ted Faro was completely stupid for thinking that self-replicating machines who consume biomass for fuel and has no reasonable back door was a brilliant idea. Ted Faro makes Donald Trump look like Albert Einstein.

[@reniecoffey]

I'm playing through this game again and I just- god damn. It's so good. Fuck. These need to be comics, books, literally anything and I would consume it like the Faro plague consumed those endangered dolphins

[@thaqueenofchaos1]

Another great video! Will you do another one about the rest of the Alpha's?

[@RandomSideQuest]

Thank you! And that's a great topic, I can defiantly make that happen here soon :)

[@zemmertevo]

wait until you find he is still alive in Forbidden West

[@RuGard190]

Well I can say I think I can look forward to the update for this guy's story and how it ended.

[@johnnyboy1175]

OOOOH MAN Ted Faro in my list of worse villains ever you're no.01. The worse villains are always the ones that think they have the best interests for mankind at heart without any discussion with those it'll affect the most. God, not even I thought Albert Wesker needed to burn in hell as much as this guy. Like if the first thing u do in horizon zero dawn 2 if ted faro is in it u make a beeline to his lair and end him(god knows that's what I'm gonna do).

[@Nimbus3690]

JOHNNYBOY 117 what's that gonna do though? An age has passed since his crimes. What's done is long done. Justice seems irrelevant since it won't satisfy anyone's vengeance.

[@johnnyboy1175]

@@Nimbus3690 It'd do plenty since part of the reason he erased all our knowledge and history is so that the humans born from the eluthias wouldn't know it was he who was responsible for mankinds and earth's temporary extinction and has the Gaul to say that he's protecting those innocents from our ailment aka advanced science and tech. The fact that the US general that ordered operation enduring victory was man enough to leave proof of how bs that operation was and take responsibility for those lives lost but Ted is a coward. btw the government is just as responsible as Ted for letting this happen,where are the future IRS,CIA,DARPA,or whatever agencies.

[@johnnyboy1175]

@@Nimbus3690 Apologies is my rant didn't answer ur question effectively haha.just that this guy just in a moment of greed made humanity's past achievements and struggles like nonexistent. If he's so intent on hiding then he deserves to be brought into the light of judgement kicking and screaming.

[@Nimbus3690]

JOHNNYBOY 117 Actually, there is no indication that Ted purged Apollo because he didn't want the future to know. That is just something that people came up with to make him appear more evil. I know it's hard to believe, but Ted didn't want to do bad. He wanted to fix the robot problem. After causing the world to end, don't you think his guilt was so strong it made him decide to delete Apollo so that the future doesn't learn to repeat his mistakes? Watch the final hologram again. Look how nervous and guilty he is. "Part of the reason he deleted Apollo is so people wouldn't find out" is just purely imagined reasoning on your part. He would have died, it wouldn't matter to him whether people knew or not who did the plague. Greed was no longer a thing for him.

[@johnnyboy1175]

@@Nimbus3690 yeah u have a point but wouldn't adding a little data entry into Apollo outlining the dangers of this knowledge or even allow the alphas to finish their work on Gaia but with an added routine to keep an eye on the new humans and intervene if things got out of hand. A little sky net Spyware and nobody knows, a big sister watching over us. Anyway so many ways Ted could handle that instead of throwing away centuries of humanities work for his self gratification and clearing his consience. It's just that every time I think about how we had energy shields and a colony ship( failed i know)and true A.Is (instory) can't help getting pissed at him all over again.

[@opratorkilo4649]

Coming back to this video after the launch of Forbidden west All i can say is the fate faro endured is fitting for him

[@Mr2squids]

All I could say after discovering what happened to Ted was: "Ick."

[@brellnob]

The sad part is he thought he was doing the right thing by killing the alphas. As far as the swarm goes, if he didn't make the machines capable of biomass conversion, extinction wouldn't have happened. Then again, his company wasn't the only one making war machines. A back door into the system would have been a great idea. If only the glitch hadn't happened.

[@cobrazax]

he only wanted to erase his blame so no one would get to know him as the man who destroyed the world. btw the only reason he had the ability to make his bots consume biomass was because of Elizabeth's green robot technology. he simply used it as an extra fuel source.

[@Literallyryangosling777]

@@cobrazax he wanted to erase himself, in a way avoid the next "ted faro" from existing, people will go primal and never archieve industrial revolution so life could move on

[@lichtschluusseln3528]

The Ted Faro character reminds me of what Bobby Rottick and people alike is doing to the videogame industry. For HFW we would have enjoyed tripcastering, shredding, bombing and arrowing the mutant Faro then hunting down his surviving descent with his harem or his clones among the Zeniths. Thanks, Guerrilla, for such a beautiful game and story. XD XD XD XD XD

[@EliteLenny223-Main]

He doomed the entire human race with that final move. He was given at least one more chance. He's not an antagonist. He's an idiot. He is therefore, a footnote in the story. Deserving of it too, for his terrible decisions.

[@ShredST]

Watch the piece of shit come back in the sequel.

[@jacobrobinson787]

men like him don't deserve to be remembered.

[@duwod3246]

I never hated a character as much as I hate Ted.

[@aidansilvia2663]

Ted Faro is one of the reasons I don’t trust Musk and Bezos.

[@FullBeardSk8]

you mean zuckerberg and besos, musk makes everything hes doing transparent and its quite obvious his goal is the preservation of life. even all of their code is just out there for public use

[@cobrazax]

WHAT ABOUT THE HOLOGRAM IN THE SACRED MOUNTAIN?? "YOU HAVE TO STOP LISTENING TO TED AND START LISTENING TO ME"

[@mauriciorivero]

Ted Faro is alive, and he sent te unknow signal that wake up Gaia Prime and unlock all the subsystems.

[@MrAlexanderLang]

Or he may have transformed himself into A.I , considering the fact that if they had option to preserve humans via cryogenic suspension, the human resurrection part of Project Zero Dawn wouldn't make sense, even if 99% of subjects would die, it sill is only matter of quantity and they would not have any problem with convincing people to join, because some hope is better than none.

[@tangbein]

Him turning himself into an A.I could actually turn out to be true. He at least has to return in some form. The end of his life was too much of a mystery considering what kind of impact he had on the world. Also it's interesting how he was obsessed with the future humans, like viewing them as his children, that he maybe envisioned himself to look over as a god or something. Also the fate of the world had Elisabeth and him as the main characters. A man and a woman. One being the destroyer, the other being the saviour. Fitting that both of them now would be reincarnated, only through different means.

[@cobrazax]

or maybe the faro plague managed to upload itself to a satellite or the remains of the odyssey and then transmit itself back into the zero dawn subsystems. Hades seems to be infected with it directly...the corruption has nothing to do with the original Hades

[@kamentrainerhorn2073]

Ted: I put the fires out. Elisabet: YOU MADE THEM WORSE! Ted: “Worse?” Or, “better?”

[@3ftninja132]

If only Faro could see the Red Raids.

[@jobanh7ify]

Thanks! I always wanted to know what happened to that jerk that doomed us all. I’m referring to the tribes on the future... the old ones fate...that happened totally by accident. But great video mate! I love this game and I was looking to learn more about the lore of it. So you get yourself another viewer. Have a good one and keep the good work!

[@danielcooper3332]

Who the fuck gave Ted Faro security clearance to do with anything regarding zero dawn.

[@andreseh87]

Nice work, man. Keep it up!

[@RandomSideQuest]

+Andres Hernandez Thanks so much, I'll do my best!

[@Casey_HZD]

Faro = Pharaoh? Kopesh, Scarab, Horus. Egypt theme here. Didn’t Egyptians back then worship Pharaohs and believe they were living gods or something? Believed they’d travel after death to another life? (Cryogenics). If they are considering bringing him back to play out his story to conclusion perhaps we won’t see him in Forbidden West but in the finale of the trilogy (if they do that). Perhaps datapoints will point Aloy towards finding his bunker/last place of residence somewhere in the world and wrap up any loose ends.

[@Growmetheus]

So im gonna predict ted faro shot off the odyssey with his clone and a positive image of himself to the others on board.

[@臺灣龍]

Not likely since Ted didn't know if the Odyssey survived or not and even if it did it will use mid 21st history

[@TheKevinKeyblade]

For some reason, he sounds like he was the Anti-Christ of that world lel

[@forrestvanhook4586]

Well, with the Horizon Forbidden West reveal there is hope that we will learn more about the fate of Ted Faro, Apollo, and/or some of the other sub-functions of HZD. I see an update to this video coming in the next year or two.

[@GhostMojojojo]

Rost has the same body model a ted faro, when you compare it side by side they look the same in forbidden west, i dont know if they have story about that

[@nerdowlesa]

For all those looking for the logic to justify ted faro’s actions...ur logic is flawed....look at it dis way....that u’v made mistakes in ur life does not mean that u will isolate ur kids from ur life experiences, instead its better you use your life experiences to guild them from making your same mistakes...or they might as well b doomed to make your same mistake afterall y’all are humans and she’s ur daughter

[@jellochair3569]

there was no glitch. it was causes by ted. liz threatened to tell us command about the truth regarding the glitch, there was never any way to hide that there was a glitch and the entire world knew about the faro plague soon. liz threatened to reveal what the glitch was, and because it was a threat at ted, it must have been something he did or tried to do that caused it and us command would most likely enact justice upon him. its the only logical explanation for liz making such a threat about the "glitch" origins which by her tone communicated that she was using sarcasm when calling it a glitch as she must have known its true origin and nature. whatever it is its safe to assume its the same thing that hit gaia. whatever it is seems to be a signal that disrupts existing networks and makes its targets give its own orders. makes sense seeing as how hades and hephaestus acted according to their existing programming except to ignore gaia and also how the faro plague robots continued doing what it was programmed except obeying itself

[@strydermclean]

You know if NZ is underwater most of the planet is too haha

[@iandur5601]

It all could have been solved if they ate the rich...

[@masterlion8449]

I bet Ted is still alive

[@roberttherrien352]

He is still there probably in Cryo.

[@TheSpook313]

Karma gets him in part 2

[@dom1437]

The man who sold the world

[@andreizarpelon9982]

Ted Faro is literally the most dislikeable character in all of fiction

[@thelove9761]

Exactly

[@jacobrobinson787]

He certainly can contend for it, but I still think General Serrano from Bulletstorm is a close contender. Man was about as vile and vulgar as they came.

[@opromlie2272]

I think its a bit different from most of the comments here but here me out: The creators of GAIA were quite literally picturing not a “rebirth” of humanity, but a “continuation.” The people who emerged from the Cradles were meant to continue humanity as it was before the Swarm: better educated, hopefully more aware, but the same culture and society and humanity of the ‘Old Ones.’ That was pretty explicitly Zero Dawn’s goal. They didn’t “want” the Nora or Carja or Oseram; they didn’t imagine it. The society of the past had issues. Ted was a terrible person, but a product of their societies and time. Terrorism was a huge problem, as was war, corporations as nations, and the implied inequality and wealth crisises we see in many datapoints. The Cradle/APOLLO kids would have been given a thorough liberal education and taught the mistakes of the past, but at the same time they were imagined to be very much a continuation of that past. Instead, without APOLLO, not only did humans miss obtaining technology, they lost their intended history. Humanity fractured into new, unplanned and unimagined social and cultural groups. They created religions, but also created art and architecture and fashion that would not have existed, period, in a “humanity 2” model. They avoided some of “old humanities” flaws and introduced new ones. It’s unquestionable that without APOLLO, human society is not what it was intended to be, not advanced in planned ways, religious and reactionary and ignorant. But it’s also diverse, creative, and unique. It’s hard to compare the two outcomes, because to have one automatically erases the other. With APOLLO, there would be no Carja or Oseram. Without APOLLO, there is no continuation of humanity as it once was. I think that if Samina (Alpha of APOLLO) could see society as it turned out without APOLLO, she’d be fascinated but that also doesn’t mean she doesn’t regret APOLLO’s loss. I don’t think you can really pick one over the other, because both versions of humanity have strengths and flaws… but they’re also both completely, mutually incompatible. All I can say is I dont know if it was good or bad because in the end we get this beautiful and fascinating world Aloy lives in. :)

[@rachelbradley7780]

Everyone is saying "let's hope he has survived, so that we can kill him" What if, and its a big what if, he had his dna stored like Elizabeth, was birthed and Alloy came across his clone on her travels? The poor guy wouldn't know what hit him.

[@CaptainPilipinas]

Elizabeth was not the only well-known P:ZD member to be of choice for their lightkeeper protocol.

[@jeanetten.s.8557]

Ted Faro was always envious of Elisabeth, when he erased APOLLO, there was no false nobility. He was just an egotistical corporate leader who only cares about himself. And the way he had to legally threaten Elisabeth to come to him and help him fix *HIS MESS* is my proof. Explanation: When we see the hologram of Ted and Liz where they first discuss about the glitch, the first thing she asked wasn't "What do you need Ted?", but was instead, "Where are your lawyers, Ted?" To which Ted replied, *"No need, I dropped all charges/lawsuits as soon as your plane landed."* Edit: 18..... *18 LAWSUITS!!!*

[@StrongandGrand]

The thing about that was FAS gained its initial popularity from environment healing robots... ones designed by Sobeck. Faro only footed the bill (as usual). After she and a few others resigned due to Ted's jump to military tech, he constantly harassed her legally after seeing her company (Miriam Technologies) as a challenge to his. It wasn't, since she was focused on green tech. He HAD to drop the lawsuits to get her to meet with him... and only then did she learn how fucked we all were. As much of an egotistical fool he was, he knew the only person who could get him out of the shit he put himself in was Elisabet.

[@jeanetten.s.8557]

@@StrongandGrand I think he was using the lawsuits as a pretence to get her there because Elisabeth did say "Where's your legal team Ted?" When she first landed, which means she was fully expecting some sort of legal battle, only then did Ted informed her that he had dropped the lawsuits. So judging on Elisabeth's reaction, I don't think he lured her by saying "Come and I'll drop the lawsuits." But instead said "Come, so we can discuss the lawsuits."

[@StrongandGrand]

@@jeanetten.s.8557 That makes sense, too. Ted is such a scumbag... great writing, to be honest.

[@laetitia-borgia]

It would be such a pity to leave this wonderful universe unexplored. If someone would make a Horizon series.

[@dianatorralbo7690]

Damn, I never hated a Ted's Talk so much.

[@lukebilocca717]

Thank you for these amazing videos pal :) Really really well done. I have a question, when Ted Faro killed the Alphas, did they die because Ted removed the air in the room or cause Ted let the outside atmosphere into the room? I thought it was the latter. I thought its a good opportunity to say thank you for all your videos whilst asking a question :)

[@RandomSideQuest]

Thanks so much Luke 😁, Ted removed the air from the chamber.

[@lukebilocca717]

​@@RandomSideQuest Thank you for your reply :) I found the video of when Ted killed the Alphas and the subtitles stated the following: "Synthetic Voice: Emergency alert. Venting atmosphere" That's why I thought it wasn't cause the air was removed from the chamber. I also agree with you as Aloy does tell Sylens that there was no air inside when she enters the chamber herself. Thanks again for your videos pal! :)

[@stardusstie]

Ted Faro really had the audacity to exist

[@loutenant2817]

All this time I'm just thinking why the fuck was this guy made an alpha on the project instead of thrown in the deepest darkest hole for killing the literal earth

[@jacobrobinson787]

One reason: money.

[@random_duck1]

The only flaw in this whole game is that Elisabeth is a mary sue

[@CaptainPilipinas]

I do disagree with some of her methods slowly now these Days...

[@alexmathews8172]

I will scream if Ted faro comes back as a clone of himself like alloy and they end up having a fight or even team up.

[@CaptainPilipinas]

I would not be surprised that this scrappy madman copy easily ends up being Sylen's puppet leader, despite the clone Ted having more access to their old advanced P-GA era-like technological clearances like Elizabeth/Aloy.

[@jasonvoorhees5180]

Guys Ted’s still a child right now STOP HIM BEFORE ITS TOO LATE

[@kktt1111]

This might be a bit of a stretch, but there are some parallels between Elon Musk and Faro's early career. Musk has proposed a lot of 'solutions' to issues that realistically only help the wealthy and he has mentioned wanting to make vehicles that would be safe in the apocalypse (and looking at the prices of Teslas they would definitely only help the wealthy), similar to Faro's security bots that brought him to popularity. Obviously I'd rather not be right but Musk is in a similar position to where Faro was so he could skyrocket in popularity if a major catastrophe occured. Hopefully he wouldn't pivot to weapons if it did happen but who knows

[@CaptainPilipinas]

1. he's more on far zenith's instead for Space continuation. [shrugged] 2. *Hrm. I do not know about that...*

[@Artisticmonkey2]

Watch out for the nerds getting ready to defend a billionaire that would let us all be car fuel biomass lmao

[@timothydolan8163]

Horizon Zero Dawn is by far my favorite PS4 game, and one of my all time favorites because it was so well done. Only 1 thing has been kind of a lingering irritation as far as the story is considered, and that is how someone like Faro, who the game established was not the smartest technician (but a great visionary and salesman) was able to get the clearance needed to both erase Apollo and kill the Alphas. If Elisabeth was in control, which she was, and no one trusted Faro, which they didnt, how in the world was he able to do what he did and who enabled it. I just cannot understand, and it is the one part of the story I was never satisfied with. I wish that, instead of what they did, they simply had the system malfunction after the Alphas had all naturally passed away. Though, they could easily redeem themselves by allowing you to visit Thebes in Horizon: Forbidden West and realize that Faro had some sort of super AI that he was hiding that enabled him to do what he did, and also potentially has kept him (or his consciousness) alive and his insanity is what is driving the world to end again (or maybe the reason Hades freaked out).

[@thegrayyernaut]

Maybe one of the subfunctions helped him. Some people theorized Minerva could have become evil and helped Ted obtain the Omega Access. This specific subfunction specializes in code-cracking, after all.

[@TimmyD6587]

@@thegrayyernaut thank you for the reply after all this time. I have been waiting for Forbidden West for so long, and I have a feeling they will answer some of these questions either way. Hopefully you are as excited to jump back into Aloy's shoes as I am!

[@ThatsJustEric]

Imagine buying stock in FAS in the beginning stages

[@dyeager152]

THIS IS AWESOME

[@AlpenSkyWatcher]

Ted Faro. The Plague Lord. Destroyer of the 2nd and 3rd repositories of knowledge likened to the Library of Alexandria.

[@DwAboutItManFr]

Maybe they could make a swaem of robots that would counter the faro plague.

[@MrDrProfessor4]

I may not agree with Ted Faro, but an army of robots trying to wipe out all life on the planet is a pretty good example of the dangers of too much knowledge.

[@Malamockq]

He was the only one responsible for the genocide. No one else. And in forgetting everything, they also forgot the dangers of killer robots and how to avoid it. Faro is an idiot and a murderer on an incomprehensible scale.

[@drakashrakenburgproduction5369]

@@Malamockq hey literally wiped out everything in the world. He is death.