Randy Murdaugh, Jurors, weigh in on the Alex Murdaugh Conviction | The Emily Show Podcast.

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[@shannap.lawnerd125]

Emily- with AM filing the alibi (Nov 2022) in this case, wouldn’t that cover the State’s statement about “never hearing” his last story? He told cops, lawyers, & the Court that he WAS NOT THERE…until he couldn’t. Just curious how strong of an argument that would be on appeal, especially with his own legal filing to the contrary. Thank you, see you on the member’s only later!! 🤓⚖️💪🏽💋🥃

[@robincraven2911]

I have followed this trail from start to finish. I think it was very hard for Alex to remember times when he did not live a life followed by time. But my real thoughts of this whole trail is the way the Corner handled the time of death. It was not handled properly, and they had proof on the witnesses stand of that. So they do not even have the time of death correct. I believe the murders could have happened as soon as Alex cranked his truck to go to his mothers. This is all my opinion but I started to think differently when the other experts gave proof of how the time of death's should have been proved. They even tested gun shot noise from the kennels to the house. They found know one in the house could not here them. In my opinion I do not believe he pulled the trigger. I know opinions are like buttholes everyone has one. 😁

[@lynnegackstetter2779]

I think the Judge was the one that got closer to reaching Alex's emotions than anyone. Telling Alex he would be haunted by Maggie and Paul for the rest of his life.

[@beachdreamer5034]

I agree but for a different reason. I think it bothers Alex more that he can never be a lawyer again than that he killed his wife and son. He was able to kill Paul and then do it again and drag it out with Maggie. He is heartless imo. He hates losing his job because of his ego. He only cares for himself.

[@jackpack3506]

I agree, Melonie.

[@803_iz_where_i_be5]

My favorite part in the whole trial. I can't stop watching it.

[@jeng9364]

He’s too old to have figured out Snapchat so I think the evidence would have been secure.

[@SKN1763]

He didn’t remain silent. He said he wasn’t there. And he said it to everyone.

[@mecde3109]

Not only did Paul the little Detective provide proof in this case but Maggie's love for the dogs and Bubba being ornery all joined together to solve the crime.

[@charlotte_stevens]

Love this! 💕

[@debstr4897]

Maggie and Paul speaking out about what happened. Without the video or Bubba there probably wouldn’t be a case.

[@joankney8484]

Aw man, this post has me in tears. This trial really affected me. It’s just so, so sad… I’m sad that Paul will never have an opportunity to mature…. And that our knowledge of his life will be limited to a boat crash and his murder. As for Buster….. I wonder about him often and hope he can get his life back.

[@susankennedy7280]

That poor kid solved his own murder without realizing it

[@karenfornea771]

Yep Paul solved his and his Moms own murder!

[@richelle1364]

Bubba is more than the goodest dog he’s an angel.

[@checkersssss9]

And a hero!

[@Amy-bl8sp]

@@checkersssss9 If allegedly hardheaded Bubba never grabbed that chicken, Alex might have never said anything on Paul's video. Thanks to Bubba (and the chicken RIP)

[@daCubanaqt]

And Cash. Paul made the video to show his friend Cash’s tail.

[@SabrinaMeShell]

I heard that Blanca has him. (Bubba) Does anyone know if Grady and Cash are with someone, and being cared for? It hurt my heart to hear the dogs barking and crying/whining on the police body cam.

[@dawnwheeler2649]

I hope someone has been taking good care of Bubba and that he got a juicy steak afterwards for breaking open the case and finding the truth

[@babaluto]

About Alex's brother's testimony: I believed most of Randy's statement about Alex is not telling all he knows. John Marvin on the other hand was being deceptive about having no idea about Alex's pill popping proclivities. Alex, John, Buster and Paul came in to a convenience on a Sunday afternoon early 2012. Alex was absolutely manic, slapping the countertops and demanding service ahead of the other customers. He was loud and beyond happy, almost laughing at himself. John, Marvin stood by, silent and disengaged. Buster stood at a short distance and was aware of the behavior by the expression on his face while Paul wandered towards an aisle, feigning interest in the potato chips. This went on for about ten minutes or so until they were given their sandwich order. At the time, I had no idea who he was, nor did I care, until the murders when I saw his and Paul's pictures. The reason I remembered the encounter was because I was working behind the counter and had a .44 revolver pointed at him under the counter during the first several minutes. There is no way anyone could convince me that John Marvin "had no idea" his brother had a drug problem which leads me to believe there are many more truths to be had.

[@DNLDVID]

Wow! Thanks for the story! I am sure there are many like this & worse, but people have been afraid to speak up due to the high influence in there town.

[@dallasfan24]

Interesting story

[@P.willow]

These are the kinds of back stories that somewhat give a fraction of an idea as to what type of interaction people have with AM.. This for me is what I'd expect from complicit persons attached to his behaviour..they know it's wrong but don't confront it or stop it for fear of the response from a bullish man like him.

[@audreeaudree]

fascinating, thank you for sharing

[@maryannbrown6606]

Very interesting,,,, thanks for sharing this! That family thought they were entitled! And above everyone else! Justice was served, I prayed for the jury, the awesome judge and the prosecutors!

[@auto5man]

Maggie allegedly texted her sister on June 7th that Alex was "acting weird", so she probably DID sense that something was out of the ordinary.

[@jettyoeill]

Correct, I believe she said in her text, “Alex is up to something”.

[@maryj2671]

Always trust the gut!

[@karmad4491]

If only she had agreed to meet him only in a public place!

[@kristenpino4635]

Where did you hear this? I'm very interested in hearing because it makes total sense.

[@djg5950]

@@karmad4491 When you're so suspicious of your spouse that it comes to only meeting them in a public place that's when you get a restraining order on him or her. She might have questioned why exactly he wanted her there that night but no one expects their spouses to kill them except those that are abused and have been threatened before. Some even go back only to be killed.

[@EuropaThePirateTwin3]

Bubba's is the ultimate story of redemption! From being a bold boy with a chicken in his mouth, to being the key to Alex's voice being caught on video! Cash went from "broken tail!" to "fixed tale" in so far as he was the reason the video was made and led to Alex being caught out in a lie!! And Evo is working hard behind the scenes! The goodest boys! This is inspiring me to get drawing! Also, on a more sombre note, it's sadly beautiful that the dog Maggie loved so much would go on to be key in solving her murder....

[@judyaaron4038]

Ml

[@l.baughman1445]

Spirit working…❤

[@mamasuki]

Well said about the dogs’ roles. Your last sentence made my eyes well up.

[@jackpack3506]

So wonderfully said❤

[@susanrussell7304]

Well done Paul, because of your footage at the kennels prior to your demise you got justice for your poor Mum and your poor self.

[@jessicaturner5972]

The puppers and Paul really are the ones who secured this win for the prosecution and it makes me so happy

[@jackpack3506]

Labradors are people dogs. They were so important in setting up the taping of Paul in his last minutes.

[@cindymarie67]

Don’t forget the chicken!

[@aviationfanatic5059]

@@cindymarie67 yes, that chicken didn’t die in vain!

[@jessicaturner5972]

omg yes the chickens! ty moselle chickens for your service!🐔 @cindy

[@imperialgirl4858]

That was the best summation of the difference between AM's emotion versus everyone else - they all tried to hold it in, he was trying to push it out.

[@gulfgal98]

When I served as a juror in a very high profile murder and drug case years ago, our names and faces were public record. A picture of the jury was published in the local newspaper and our names were public record. We were sequestered 24/7 but someone found out where our hotel and rooms were. Midway during the trial, our jury was threatened with being killed. Someone wrote the threat "we are going to kill you" on the window of one of our rooms. At that point, the local sheriff started patrolling the neighborhoods where the jurors lived. My husband started sleeping with a gun next to the bed. For that reason alone, I decided not to talk to the media or attend the sentencing. Surprisingly, none of the other jurors talked to the media either.

[@riossloth]

That’s horrific. I’m so sorry that you had to experience that.

[@SHANNONCHARRIS]

Woah! That is terrifying 😳 I'm glad you are ok.

[@gulfgal98]

@@SHANNONCHARRIS This was decades ago. Hopefully things in my jurisdiction have changed.

[@chelly2468]

I’m so glad someone spoke out on this topic. People on KZbin are stalking buster and his GF all the way to their home, that’s creepy and unacceptable. They even go as far as blasting it on fb, making others believe it’s OK when it’s absolutely not. It’s also dangerous! People have NO boundaries. Armchair detectives have gone TOO FAR.

[@lisak5804]

It's not safe...pretty sure almost everyone in SC carries. FL has the castle law and stand your ground law so these people need to back off for their own safety. It isn't California.

[@djg5950]

They should be arrested for stalking and harassing. Didn't anyone learn anything from the death of Princess Diana ?

[@dianabaker7919]

Thank you for sharing this is very important have boundaries so that everyone is safe. You said it best. I am on your side.. God Bless and please stay safe. Take care of one another.Please send love and caring for everyone.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@chelly2468]

I totally agree with you guys! The media is just so out of hand I really wonder what the future holds for trials like this. People on KZbin twist EVERYTHING this family does. It’s overkill! I want to hear the facts, not what idiots on KZbin mix up and spit out

[@chelly2468]

@@lisak5804 funny I said this same thing on another video. The Deep South stays strapped! (Rightfully so) they need to watch it 😂

[@ourlove1449]

I was hoping you saw Randy's statement yesterday. He was noticeably absent the last couple of weeks of the trial. I appreciate his honesty that he still has questions. I'm sure that doesn't sit well with his family.

[@cathywithac]

Randy had blocked out 3 weeks in his calendar because that was how long the trial was planned to be. During the last 3 weeks, he was in other courthouses doing his job.

[@julielarson3107]

@@cathywithac Thanks Cathy! I was wondering where Randy was.

[@pipinato]

He is a lawyer with a busy calendar. I don't believe it was done on purpose TBH

[@cbtx8615]

Sounds like a CYA.

[@mtngrl5859]

@@cbtx8615 He's been paying people back, none of what Alex did directly had Randy's involvement. Clearly there should have been more oversight of the firm's practice, but he is trying to compensate injured parties.

[@katelynbray5531]

Bubba is the best boy and knowing Maggie loved him so much and he helped with solving her murder is such a great redemption I wish he could know ❤️

[@mykidsmomogx5]

I have a feeling Maggie thanked Bubba from above❤💔

[@Theravensgift]

Do we know where the dogs are now?

[@StilettoCutsQuick.]

@@Theravensgift bubba is with Blanca.

[@katiemedley8366]

❤️❤️❤️

[@StilettoCutsQuick.]

Katelyn Bray I really wonder if Bubba could sense that something was wrong and he was going after the chicken as a distraction. I gave my dog an extra hug after the verdict.

[@scubachix4215]

Gloria Satterfield could never have known her sons are now living a much higher standard of life than Alex

[@mtngrl5859]

Her attorney Eric Bland has already recovered 7 mil for the estate and he is going back to court shortly again.

[@beachdreamer5034]

I think she knows :)

[@lynnhoffmann247]

They always did…morally.

[@JessicaPradoHanson]

I hope she can see them!

[@staciesmom9639]

It made me sick when Harpootlian asked Gloria's son, Tony, on the witness stand if he was in on the plot when Alex stole their settlement.

[@Twinkiedriver27]

Thanks for being REAL and asking the questions.

[@AidaraRose]

The only emotion I believed from Alex was when he would get angry.

[@katiehettinger7857]

Absolutely right.

[@tundrawomansays694]

Yeah, and anger is a least partially about FEAR. Alec had every reason to be fearful because he was guilty as hell.

[@shannap.lawnerd125]

💯🎯👏🏽💪🏽⚖️🤓

[@helmaeijck4246]

I saw real emotions with Alex when Maggies sister told what kind of person she was.

[@lauriedi1]

And that is when I reacted with real fear. His anger is so tangible and deep I could feel it.

[@sharonlee6470]

Between this case and Girardi, I am stunned at the accounting practices of these law firms.

[@lollypop2413]

Yes i am a retired accountant...its almost unbelievable....i dont buy their stories.

[@B_Bodziak]

In Alex's case, he opened up a biz bank account under the name "Forge" and there is a fairy well known , legitimate company called Forge that actually handles lawsuit settlement payouts, often between an insurance company and plaintiffs and their counsel. So, when the insurance company was instructed to send Alex's law firm the settlement checks made out to "Forge", it didn't raise any eyebrows whatsoever. Alex proceeded to deposit those checks into the Forge account he opened at Palmetto bank and from there, he had total control of the money. The reason he was able to open an account under the biz name "Forge" with him as the authorized user was because, of course, he was buddies with a member o the Palmetto Bank's Board and didn't require Alex to present the proper state LLC paperwork and simply opened the account. I do not know if the Board member was in on things or received financial compensation from Alec. This is why he was able to steal so many settlements from cases without the law firm accounting being alerted. As far as they knew, the settlements had not yet happened because they didn't receive any checks for them. The only reason he was caught was when he tried to coerce Jeanie, the firm's CFO, into helping him hide assets from Mallory's family. Had Alex not claimed to be broke and paid the settlement amount to the attorney representing Mallory's family, he may not have ever been caught.

[@sharonlee6470]

@@B_Bodziak I am going to assume that you do not work in accounting. I am a retired CFO and I can assure you that there are accounting practices that are used to ensure that these things don't happen. I will re-iterate my initial comment that I am stunned at the accounting practices of these law firms--it is unethical and illegal business practice.

[@mnpd3]

PMPED made more money than it could keep track of. Hampton is one of the poorest counties in the country, yet right in the town of a few hundred people is a giant law firm with millionaire partners. Tort reform organizations have called Hampton a "judicial hellhole." South Carolina law permits both "forum shopping" and "13th Juror" exceptions to judgments. You can be sued for millions in a South Carolina courthouse for damages that occurred in California, and if the judge doesn't personally like the verdict he or she can overturn or modify it at will. It's a safe bet that the Hampton courthouse hears almost no cases arising locally.... since Hampton juries are known to award huge monetary damages, it's a favorite place for state attorneys to file. Just ask Virginia-based CSX railroad. Walmart refused to even open a store in Hampton - the people are poor because there are no jobs... it's a civil risk just to do business there, so job producing companies pass the place by. Forbes magazine even did a full-sized article on Hampton a few years back about the town, PMPED and South Carolina's laws. Interesting reading that is available free on the web. My take is that there are no heroes there.

[@ej767]

My heart broken when Maggie's sister talked. That was sorrow and hurt.

[@shannap.lawnerd125]

Same. 😢 be blessed.

[@jackpack3506]

I am a big sister, and I totally related to her emotional burden after the facts. Bless her❤

[@maureenc1284]

When your beloved sister marries the wrong kind of guy.

[@sparkycalico1698]

She was grieving, but I think she held back in her testimony. No shade, she answered the questions and she did make a single statement that opened the door to the self-inflicted head wound and the tall tale that led to exposing more lies. Her testimony was restrained answers that kept her from offending Murdaugh family.

[@shannap.lawnerd125]

@@sparkycalico1698 Agreed…but she still has to be able to talk to Buster & I’m sure she didn’t want to burn any bridges that would keep her/other family out of the loop with future info etc. It’s hard when small towns have big problems…local news is NOT friendly, no matter where you are.

[@sarahv311]

When I watched Jeanne S. (CFO) testify I was all about her, but I’ve been binging the Murdaugh Murders podcast and now I have a lot of questions about the law firm. I think there’s a lot of shadiness going on that hasn’t been uncovered and I have a hard time believing that AM was stealing from clients for all those years without anyone at the law firm knowing.

[@elenalile1527]

I have been doing same! I think law firm has some lawyers that do shady things. But that's a long way from stealing millions from clients and murder. And I don't think what Alex was doing had been seen before by her. Her testimony felt true and she seems like type to be a pit bull when she is onto something.

[@tadharsh678]

I agree. I felt the same about Jeanne, who was so competent, but that made me wonder further...how did this guy get away with this so long. I think there was some regular dipping going on at that law firm.

[@kims6888]

Are you all speaking of the “Mandy” (I can’t remember her last name) Podcast ?

[@beachdreamer5034]

I have always felt the same because lawyers hold their trust (client's money) as sacred. HOWEVER, I dont blame Jeanne. I think that old man Randolph was the reason nothing was done. They were terrified of him and could not speak against his son.

[@shannap.lawnerd125]

Ok, I totally understand that perspective, & YES, someone probably noticed fkery before June 7, 2021… However, we have seen that so many outside agencies (Palmetto bank, Lafitte himself, Mr. Parker of PMPED, Chris’s Fleming/Wilson, etc) were entangled in the money grabbing &/or shady lending going on here. If the fees that Jeanne knew were supposed to be deposited WERE, it might not have been easily apparent if the lawyers were taking any further funds. When we see that AM was able to divert money straight into his “fake Forge”, we know that Jeanne wouldn’t have seen anything until he put his required fees amount into the firm’s trust account. I’m sure there have been shady money things going on there for as long as they have been open…but I’m not sure how many of the support staff (paralegals, financial clerks, etc) would have been able- or willing- to speak up to such an intimidating supervisory staff. I might be too optimistic here, granted, but I’m hoping that these people- who helped PMPED become the powerhouse it is- were doing so with pure intentions & an attitude of helping the people they were representing. 🤷🏻‍♀️🍀⚖️🤓 Stay safe out there, be blessed.

[@rak7293]

I so agree with you . Boundaries are needed . Ppl have the right to privacy. It’s super weird to go looking into these jurors past. If anyone’s ever been stalked it’s got certain elements to what we see the media and the public are doing to anyone in the spotlight. It’s extremely disturbing.

[@molliwilson5639]

I totally agree.. it is disturbing

[@iguana6513]

It always feels like there's more laws preventing journalists from gathering information vs tabloid photographers snapping photos through someone's blinds. Imo the guy who was stalking him to the point that he was following him in a car and swerving in the road trying to get a photo should get a fine :/ tabloid culture has always been so toxic, and I hope we start to see it die out.

[@theConquerersMama]

I assumed that the Juror who is doing so many interviews is acting as a spokesperson for the group. One, he has the public speaking skills. Two, he can move back out of the area. Even the other two women jurors are going to have notoriety for years in the town.

[@gerry2223]

Thanks!

[@kelliebarley5285]

I think he totally planned it..Maggie’s sister testified whoever did this was planning a long time… and he totally LURED them to Mosselle

[@connieclarke924]

100%

[@beareeves4923]

Alex actually said whoever did this it had been planned a long time.

[@thisismyinferno]

​@Bea Reeves makes it worse. That when he said, whomever did this hated Paul for a long time.

[@oaksnice]

​@@thisismyinferno It's not a Freudian slip. He was obviously trying to put the blame on someone who had it in for Paul since the boat accident. I don't think he planned it for very long. It would be a terrible plan to use his own gun in his own clothes and do it on his own property. And then presumably hide the evidence at his parent's house. It's just the worst possible plan you can make.

[@katiehettinger7857]

@@oaksnice I want to if or when Maggie had asked Alex for a divorce? She felt comfortable enough with to to talk about it to her nail technician? Was that why her sister needed to talk her into going to Moselle? Was Maggie renovating the beach house to live there permanently, because the couple was separating? Why was she thinking of retaining the services of an investigator?

[@TheleastofHis]

What actually sealed the deal for me was the fact that AM never mentioned hearing 7 gunshots ringing out in the night only several feet away from the house and only minutes after he pulled away in the golf cart! That to me is beyond a reasonable doubt × 10!

[@DD47N1]

2 things I would like to point out. You cannot convict Buster for the sins of his father and you have to assume that much of his own behavior was due to the influence of Alex. Regardless, decent humans should still be concerned for a young man who has lost his entire family under the circumstances he has. Also, I feel like Maggie's family didn't make a victim statement because they didn't want to ostracize Buster. He is the only thing they have left of Maggie and if they were to say something against Alex that Buster didn't like then that could be an excuse for him to no longer be in their lives.

[@ivechang6720]

Very kind and considerate comment. I celebrate your bravery to share this.

[@karensnowdon1002]

I agree, although I hope he wouldn't estrange himself from his mom's side.

[@DD47N1]

@@karensnowdon1002 I don't think he necessarily would, but I'm just guessing that's why Maggie's family didn't make a victim statement. They didn't want to do anything to upset Buster.

[@DD47N1]

@@Stoshnut Oh heck yeah!! The suspicion is strong here too where Stephen is concerned!! But I don't think one necessarily has to disclude the other. I guess I may be wired a little differently than some because I can still look at the past of a serial killer and feel bad for their horrible childhood. That doesn't make what they do/did right but you have to understand that sometimes (not always) they are made to become what they are by neglectful/abusive parenting. I think Buster can be seen to fall into this category. Bad, but 'raised' to be that way.

[@AnneRose-um1mb]

I agree. I think Maggie’s sister made a number of statements during her testimony that, to me, were red flags indicating her wondering about his guilt or innocence. But she never said anything outright that said she had concerns about his role. Hopefully Buster will be able to build a life for himself and with Maggie’s family support and the support of other family and friends.

[@carolhorner7202]

I have the thought that taking a walk around the property with Paul, was Alec's way of 'saying goodbye' to his son.

[@theConquerersMama]

his "empire of dirt"

[@LUTfam4]

Absolutely!

[@anomaxie]

That’s what I’ve always thought as well. It’s a difficult thing to grasp :(

[@yvelaine]

Emily .. you have great style but what I enjoy most of all is your genuine seriousness .

[@myahd5642]

I don't think when the Judge said he didn't believe it was a normal day for Alex that he meant Alex was acting panicked/ strange/ or whatever. I think he was responding to when Alex tried to argue on the stand that his conversation with Jeanne didn't mean anything / that there was no financial pressure on him at all because of it. Alex tried to say it was a completely normal day (so why in the world would he kill his wife/ son) & the judge was just pointing out that there is no way that convo with Jeanne wouldn't have had an impact on Alex, even if only internally.

[@aoefeable]

Not to mention the call about his dad’s health and the call from Shelly saying that his mother was upset. These don’t make for a normal day, at least for normal people. (Plus the recent text about Maggie finding pills).

[@theConquerersMama]

​@@aoefeable add on knowing how close Maggie & Chris's wife were. You can bet once Chris told her about his day, that they were on the financial hook for Alex's drug fueled crimes or else, that she'd call Maggie.

[@aoefeable]

@@theConquerersMama ahhh wow!

[@theConquerersMama]

@@aoefeable if Maggie didn't like the way strangers whispered about the boat case, she was going to lose her mind about the fallout once friends & family, their social circle, heard from Chris's wife.

[@theConquerersMama]

Personally the Dad's health or Paul's feet (cause unknown/effected by stress of upcoming trial?) would make it a rough day in our home. But that's us.

[@Lololeelee]

Bubba and Cash are the real heroes! 🐶

[@antoinettejones649]

...and the chicken...

[@alicemc8774]

Thanks

[@jdr9419]

I think the jurors should go home and back to their lives. There are appeal lawyers waiting for them to reveal some mistake to take it to an appeal.

[@socialsocial8350]

There is a case that the trail was cancelled because one of the jury had criminal record and he didn't said nothing before the trial. They have to be careful because they grab the smallest thing to nullify the trial.

[@loudMouse11]

I agree. Although I will say one thing tho- James gave an amazing interview! Wow! It blew my mind that he was only 22 years old! He is the perfect example the perfect juror. I just hope the others dot I's, cross T's & shut TF up. You know Poot's got a pen in his hand & hanging on to every syllable of their interviews.

[@LCOOKE1]

I heard one juror say the financial stuff showed AM was manipulative or something to that affect. I’m afraid the defense attorneys might say, “uh oh she slipped off the motive only instruction.” What do you think?

[@Remmysage]

@@LCOOKE1 that’s what is called impeachment. That was the whole goal. Why else do you think they asked about the financial stuff? To show his character and how he lied all about that so he wouldn’t have a problem lying about the murderer. That was the whole point. Not sure why you’d think they could appeal on her opinion about his financial wrong doings.

[@LCOOKE1]

@@Remmysage I am just a worrier about AM getting off on appeal. And the judge said you are only to consider the financial stuff in relationship to motive. Yes, the prosecution wanted that in to show how easily he lied to all the people he stole from and he is lying to you too - jury. I heard the defense attorney talking on a show how letting the financial stuff in will probably be their grounds for appeal. I sure Don’t think it was wrong to let it in or that it should be grounds for appeal. I really don’t see how an attorney could agree to defend an obvious murderer. I was just worrying about what lame excuse the defense could come up with for appeal.

[@angierose4920]

This whole case is horrific. I am aware of all of his corrupt and illegal wrong doings…but I was so hopeful that it would be proven that he was innocent of murdering his wife and son. The more I watched the more I saw that he would be shown to be guilty. It’s beyond sad that they lost their lives to someone they loved and trusted!

[@debbie2520]

I do have a couple of misgivings here. Up to right now I’ve been convinced of Alexa guilt. However, is it difficult to imagine that someone or 2, whatever, with a vendetta against Paul could also be able to tell from social media that Paul was down at the kennels and it was dark? Is it hard to imagine this same person could have gone there and stolen the guns earlier when no one was home? If this person knew Paul was at the kennels based on his social media at the time, couldn’t that person have turned up there to carry out the act, not caring whether Maggie and Alex might be there too? They would just have been collateral damage. Alex might have left a bit after 845 like he said, and narrowly escaped being shot as well purely coincidentally. It’s not hard to imagine then that the reasons Maggie and Paul’s phones should no activity around that time is because they were being attacked straight after Alex had left, and therefore they weren’t touching their phones. I think it could possibly have been someone that Paul knew, and that person could see via social media that Paul was at the kennels. Food for thought 💭 ??

[@dominaevillae28]

I think Alex was prepared for that day, it was just a matter of when.

[@Pookies.Cookie]

THIS.

[@katiehettinger7857]

Paul's legal problems were a finance liability and according to Maggie's nail technician she was leaving him and considering using an investigator. Had she talked to Miss Shelly and found out Alex wasn't going to his parents home when he had said that was where he claimed to be? Did he have a well paid mistress or was he meeting with Cousin Eddie to do a drug deal?

[@feliciarizzo6841]

He said whoever did this thought about it for a long time... And he did.....boy did he comfess so many things snd thought he was fooling everyone

[@123marlanamars]

Thank you for still being here for us on this trial. I really have enjoyed you covering and hope you will continue until the very end (this seems like one that’s going to have continuous content).

[@mamasuki]

Bubba is the goodest of the good dogs.🐕💛 I want to give him a hug for helping reveal more of AM’s depraved deception that has hurt so many.

[@CMinorOp67]

And, don’t forget the unsung hero…the chicken. Poor girl gave her life to the cause.

[@tadharsh678]

IT was actually that dog "Cash" who was in the video. Good dog Cash!

[@katherinea.rodgers8366]

Yes!

[@helenfisler-parker9005]

Best not goodest

[@sylvias5087]

Bubba was kind of a bad dog, at least the chickens certainly thought so. It was Bubba’s upbringing I am sure, and deep down he’s a good dog.

[@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468]

Bubba and EVERY dog (and cat) are the BEST. Unconditional love, they don’t hurt us-they are truly angels who walk amongst us and if we are lucky, we have one of them 🐾❤️😇

[@MD.moi-dire]

It's easy to believe that Paul was 'driving' the boat because it was his. They also said in the Netflix doc that he kept walking away from the wheel. I'd say he had care & control of the boat even if he wasn't actually in control because of his level of intoxication. He is still responsible. Reaching over to straighten the wheel doesn't make that person responsible for any crash or consequences.

[@MyOveralls74]

The kids in the boat were immediately yelling at Paul at the scene of the accident. I’ve no doubt he was driving.

[@avamyst70]

I see what you're saying, but Connor, who was the one switching controls with Paul, was also very drunk.

[@EmeraldEyes3713]

@@avamyst70 Yes, but the boat was not Connor’s boat. Even if he were driving it at the time of the crash, he was only doing so because his friend, the driver, was belligerently drunk and assaulting people, and it is his friend’s boat. Paul bears responsibility for being belligerently drunk and unable to operate his own boat. And based on what Connor’s injuries were as a result of the crash, he wouldn’t have been driving, or the wheel and windshield would have broken his fall and kept him from running his face into the side of the boat.

[@xsullengirlx]

That, and the crime scene reconstruction of the people in the boat and their subsequent injuries go to show where they were most likely located when the boat crashed. It's pretty obvious Paul was driving, and all of his friends were pissed at him from the get go for being so adamant about it even while drunk. His friend did try to help, but couldn't even fully take over driving because Paul would push him out of there. It just all points to Paul being the one responsible and I believe they would have proved that in court.

[@Remmysage]

I do think it is telling that they knew how he was and still chose to drink and get on a boat with him. Not that anyone deserves to die or that anyone would imagine they’d get killed from it, there is some responsibility in everyone on that boat for drinking and going on a boat with everyone. If they knew Paul was like that then they shouldn’t have every drank and got on the boat with him. Just saying, you can’t be drinking and be on a boat with someone who gets belligerently drunk and expect that something bad isn’t going to come out of it. Not taking away from anything that Paul did and yes he was completely in the wrong but those kids chose to get on a boat with him and knew the risks of it and still made the choice to get on the boat with him. Hopefully it’s a lesson learned for other people that only you can chose to put yourself in a position to get killed that way.

[@Lumpsypod]

There is still more to this case then we will ever know. There is a deeper mystery hidden away forever!

[@rehab5355]

Not really tho.....The Bible is full of insights on where lives go when they are deceived with wrong thinking, lasciviousness, avarice....The whole book is about the facts of being deceived...how it will take you to hell on this earth and maybe eternity.... There is an explanation...its' just a long & convoluted end we come to if not chked

[@joycewilliams1755]

Thank you Emily for all you do! Breaking the legalities down to us has been really helpful….

[@beachdreamer5034]

Thanks for the update on current issues related to this case, Emily. I totally agree that the jurors and family should be left alone, period. I vote that Bubba is the goodest boy ever. He saved the day. I find it so satisfying that Bubba and the Little Detective solved the murders. Bubba did not let Paul down!

[@BehindtheseEyes]

Bubba The Bestest Boy ! So happy to know Blanca/her family caring for him♥️ now.

[@CMinorOp67]

My thoughts on Jim doing the closing: his performance was like me trying to find my keys.

[@cindymarie67]

It’s gotta be so hard looking the jury in the eyes and defending a murderer! I think Jim had a pretty good idea he was guilty.

[@jennidesilva5995]

🇦🇺 😅🔎🔑🔑

[@chefcindybaanderson415]

EDB - thanks for all you do! You’re TED talk is so inspiring- I sent it to my teen daughters & their friends!!😊

[@jjsmama401]

I love your commentary about boundaries and the necessity to keep the balance between transparency and respect for people’s privacy.

[@Mamataur]

When it comes to witness stand testimonies, Crocodile Tears just dont cut it, it seems Bubba is the bestest boy 💚

[@nocontextwhatever]

This judge was fantastic

[@samkennedy5554]

Emily hope you talk about the interview with Maggie's nail tech as well re: divorce.

[@robinpalmer5380]

Yes! That felt like truth. Significant truth

[@nicolette_black]

Nail techs know all the dirt! Even when it isn’t their client. I used to love just being their and listening to everyone.

[@Pookies.Cookie]

👀

[@elenalile1527]

I had the feeling that Maggie's sister was leaving some things unsaid. And I wondered about Maggie not wanting to go out there that night, and her telling Maggie she should go...that was so she could go see his mom or dad with him, but she did not go. But Alex never said why she didn't go. It just didn't make sense. And I had actually wondered if Maggie was leaving him and sister knew. And she didn't think Alex knew. It would have been hard for Maggie to see a divorce lawyer and Alex not know. And her family may have stayed close to Alex after murder so he possibly wouldn't have found out. I know that's a lot of assumptions. But in these circles, a divorce wouldn't just be taboo in Alex's family. So her family was protecting Maggie and themselves as well.

[@xLAPPUINx]

​@@elenalile1527 the guilt I would feel sending my sister back to him would be tremendous. How they heal from this.

[@Bria_001]

thank you EDB for the reality check apparently many have needed. Peoples' REAL lives are being affected. The parasocial aspects of cases like this lead me to believe, that many view the participants in this trial as non-human. So much respect for continuing to bring up respecting boundaries and humanity. Much love.

[@mjb7198]

Wow finally I caught a LIVE! All I want to say is Emily - even though I watch your lives after the fact - you always make my work day a better day because you crack me up! . I am learning a lot watching you and Peter I feel like a lawyer lol . Thank you 🙂

[@angelacross2216]

Emily your coverage was amazing. I pride myself on my fortitude but even I couldn’t watch the last week. So impressed that you soldiered on through it all.

[@justasub]

I believe that Bubba deserves a lot of credit for his contribution to solving this crime, but I also feel like Paul helped solve his own murder with that Snapchat video!! All worked together to get AM behind bars! IMO of course 😉 Thank you Emily 💜

[@micheledematteis2072]

The "silent witnesses" 💕

[@jackpack3506]

And Cash, too!

[@lindamaisonneuvemiller5953]

Alec was refused his pills, was confronted about the money at work, and Maggie’s manicurist said Maggie was divorcing (outside of trial). His shot to Maggie’s head was pure rage and hate.

[@loudMouse11]

Yes!! And he shot her (I think 5 times?) Her murder sounds like she suffered the most before she passed.

[@amycox2074]

I think it was telling when Alex said he always wanted Maggie with him and told her he wanted her home everytime he spoke to her.

[@rowan3946]

I agree. Maggie was shot in the back of the head when she was on the ground. That’s an execution shot. Neither of them has a headstone yet. Alex’s father died three days after them and he has a vaulted tombstone.

[@stephaniehollier6335]

@@rowan3946 that’s horrible 😢

[@flopsymopsy7088]

@@stephaniehollier6335 This is all NORMAL! A tombstone takes weeks or months depending upon how busy the monument company and how complex the stone is that was ordered. If his father has a vaulted tombstone, that is already in p,ace and his death was anticipated for months..

[@susankleinman]

I watched the whole 6 weeks of the trial with you. I would rush home from work and watch until well after midnight. I agree that I thought he had a normal day but I do feel there is a major lack of empathy within his personality that I believe has always been there. It was such an act of pure destruction and horror that is almost too much to take in. Your analysis and commentary during that trial helped a great deal and I thank you from across the pond in the UK🙋‍♀️🇬🇧

[@mamacitabrady2856]

Bless his heart Bubba is the goodest. I’m so glad Miss Bianca has him.

[@DAVIDFromIOWA]

LOVED the “soapbox”, Ms. Baker! You said exactly what needed to be said. Good sh**.

[@mandyshea7874]

you are so good at explaining things, thank you Emily x

[@spinozareader]

I agree with you. AM is so inured to what is abnormal that *abnormal* IS his "normal." He's become so accustomed to moving with ease within his hall of mirrors that he's completely unbothered with the mental/emotional "gear shifting" that this requires. You can hear this in his conversations with Buster when Alex is in jail. He is intent on Buster getting back into law school and focused on the machinations that that would require. The fact that the boy's mother and brother were brutally murdered--and that that would be weighing on the son doesn't seem to register in any normal way with Alex during those conversations. I think Alex has become very accustomed to, and comfortable with, the "shape-shifting" required to *present* as a decent good ol' boy while in fact being very, very malignant.

[@DNLDVID]

Spot on! Bravo!

[@andreavillei1869]

Yep…..you are 100% correct. That Hall of mirrors metaphor couldn’t be more accurate. I think he is completely selfish, coupled with being completely devoid of true emotion.

[@katherinea.rodgers8366]

It was a long trial and I feel justice was served. And, thank you, Emily for taking us through it all.

[@marygorden2334]

Good boy, Bubba! Best dog ever! Wherever you are, I hope that you get all the treats you want! ❤❤❤ And Cash, you rock!!!

[@beachdreamer5034]

He is reported to be living with Blanca!

[@karmad4491]

He DID kill the chicken, however. Just saying.

[@marygorden2334]

@@karmad4491 🤣🤣🤣

[@marygorden2334]

@@beachdreamer5034 Oh, that’s awesome!

[@aussie.lawnerd]

First channel I have properly joined, so happy to support EDB and be a Law Nerd

[@CMinorOp67]

I don’t think it was a very normal day for Alex, tbh. He was called out, for the first time, on stealing from the firm in the decade he had been stealing. (Which, I still don’t understand how he was able to get away with it for so long. Like…did they have accountants?) He had been caught trying to transfer funds/hide money from Tinsley, in regards to the Beach suit. He had just been told his father was going to die. Paul had his trial approaching in just a few days. And who knows what all else was happening in Alex’s life at the moment. But everything was crashing down on top of him.

[@micheledematteis2072]

And his pills were discovered/found and perhaps confiscated

[@theConquerersMama]

Agreed. If I had that kind of day I would be pouring a drink the minute I walked through the door. He also knew that Chris was going straight home to tell his wife all about it. That they would have to pay from their pocket for his drug fueled crimes. He knew it was a matter of time - maybe hours- before she told Maggie.

[@MedusaEcho]

I am convinced that this whole case only began unraveling. In this small community and such close nit family there’s no chance Alex could’ve kept such secrets for so long. There must be few people who know it but in my opinion I think that a number of people down the line were milking this entire family. Now everyone is at it. Even the nail technician is sharing her story about Maggi under the pretence of not letting Maggi to be forgotten. Paul did drive the boat and he was absolutely of order but those other kids were more then aware of his state. Now they are all perfect, responsible and all are blaming a dead man who can’t defend. For me each and every one of them has a part to play. That gang milked Paul for years and that’s why he was getting away with so much. Also, Maggi was a lousy month, didn’t like Paul and publicly was expecting her irritability with him. Gloria took care of Paul most of his life and was the only person that he loved and supported him. Paul was the one who discovered pills. He was treated like an outcast which lead to his negative attention speaking behaviour. Even after the boat accident Paul continued to drink, drive under the influence, get arrested and so on. Check out Hidden True Crime. Dr John Mathews I think. It’s a couple and he’s very good, forensic psychologis. In my humble opinion one of the best analysis of Murdaugh case. Together with Emily and this one local guy there’s no better. Toodle loo

[@EMartin70]

Emily, just subd. Excellent reporting on the Murdaugh case on Shaun Attwood. Thank you

[@adrianakessler384]

I was watching Alex (online when camera zoomed to him), and when Maggie’s sister was testifying, Alex took a deep, deep breath when she started saying what Alex had told her. I think that was a very anxious moment for him.

[@debbieblair3329]

Rewatch crew! Thanks Emily for covering this!

[@judithgrace9850]

Judge Newman is 72, and his 41 years young son died of heart troubles 8 weeks before this trial. Much respect for the winning lawyers, jury, and Judge Newman. Greedy liars are all over this world.

[@marygraham3189]

You are incredible. Clear direction of your recaps. Easy to listen and understand. I stumbled across you wish I had at the beginning of this fascinating trial.

[@ItsMe-1128]

Did you guys notice Paul called his Grandfather first everytime he got in trouble. He called his dad and mom second. He did that until he's grandfather was no longer physically able.

[@tawnan903]

Emily, your explanations and insight into people are spot on! Found you through Peter last night, TLYK. Fabulous!

[@msjaderoyale]

‼In an interview with Maggie's nail tech she said that Maggie was if fact seeking a divorce and intending to hire an investigator. The interview is on KZbin. ‼

[@beachdreamer5034]

I havent seen that but I have heard it several times. My question is if this nail tech had information why didnt she go to the police and tell them? Would they just consider it hearsay?

[@shannap.lawnerd125]

@@beachdreamer5034 I’m sure that the nail tech had spoken to investigators if they felt comfortable with doing interviews. SLED would have spoken to them as soon as they found out Maggie had been there before Moselle. 😉 (& SLED ppl referred to her nail appointment on the stand, too.)

[@msjaderoyale]

@@beachdreamer5034 She did talk to SLED and Waters but as you said it was just hearsay. Maggie's attorney would have to come forward.

[@tadharsh678]

I read this yesterday, and I just couldn't wait to hear what you had to say about it!

[@Cryptomyboy]

Murdaugh filed a Notice of Alibi Defense on November 17 stating he "was not present at the time, place, and date of the murders. . ." The Judge pointed this out during sentencing. Seems like as of November 2022 he wasn't "trying to tell you, [but y'all wouldn't take my calls]." And if he was really "trying to tell you" then he could have had his attorneys give the prosecution this bit of information. His saying he "tried to tell you, but y'all wouldn't take my calls" on the stand was yet ANOTHER lie; he sounded like a 10 year old child that got caught the way he pointed to anything and everything to save his own ass.

[@marciakoford6245]

Thank you for your plea for boundaries of decency and human compassion.

[@kirsikka1029]

There are reputable criminal psychologists online who have been doctors for years trying to get the why questions answered. Watching their channel has given me insight & the family dynamics of the Murdaughs.

[@khaightlynn]

Got recommendations?

[@christineoosthuizen4388]

@@khaightlynn If I remember correctly... Try Hidden True Crime...

[@marciakoford6245]

Emily, This commentary is you at your best. Yes, you are savvy, you can be shrewd in a court of law. But in this arena, I applaud your sense of human decency. Watching your show, as an 85 yo great grandmother of 5, I can learn much about our judicial system, without feeling like a voyeur or someone who gets their kicks out of other people’s suffering. I may be imagining it, but I see you yourself, growing as a human and as a representative of our beautiful justice system. Bless you❣️

[@peakydene1943]

Marcia, it was great to read your comments to Emily, as I am an 80-year-old grandmother who discovered her on KZbin during the Depp vs. Heard trial and she became my favorite attorney to watch for commentary. Yes, she is shrewd, savvy and tremendously compassionate and decent. She gives a lie to all the bad lawyer jokes 😂. She truly has a good heart and a great sense of humor, as well as a knack for explaining the most complicated facets of a trial and our judicial system. I used to be a paralegal and am now very vested in true crime and watching several of the trials that have been televised. It’s good to know there are other octogenarians like myself who are following Emily and who admire her as much as I do. She is someone every age group can love and learn from. ❤️ (And I love her ginger cats, Fred and George, and their antics, as I too have a mischievous ginger cat named Oliver.😊😻)

[@teresa4565]

Randy knows more than what he's saying too, he's the one who immediately called the Smith family to represent them when their son was killed. As the family said, 'represent us for what?'. Randy is heavily involved in a lot of Alex's stuff mark my words.

[@Candy-O1776]

Hell, he was there where Steven lay dead, he beat cops to the scene…how did he even know he was laying there dead???

[@KayInMaine]

John Marvin is also the Fixer. He swoops in after a Murdaugh crime to take evidence away/clean up the scene.

[@aisforarlene]

I almost spit my food out when you referenced SLED in your Manscaped promo. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kathyolney4083]

Great advertising on the Manscaped!!! I didn't want to listen but you got my attention!!! Well done Emily D. Baker!!💫🥂

[@ruthwarde6057]

Alex murdaugh said he tried to take pulses.. their arms were underneath them , their heads blown apart, nobody asked him how! Why? Thank you for ur hard work❤❤❤

[@LearningVideos24]

The only person who can put this family's minds at rest is Alex. He has the power to do something good by confessing his crimes.

[@tundrawomansays694]

Not gonna happen. Not with his Personality Configuration. He’s not concerned with “doing good,” but rather with keeping his saggy old ass out of prison.

[@ellenlewis9860]

Don't hold your breath!

[@lindsyphillips823]

How could you ever believe a word AM says.

[@sandraspengler4740]

Don't hold your breath. He probably sees himself as the victim

[@eli4delmar]

The description would be so heinous, better not. It could break their hearts even more.

[@veldaaldous9834]

The whole time Alex was on the stand I kept thinking of Clinton's statement, "whatever the meaning of is is." He even had the same arrogant smirk on his face. Wordsmithing might work when you're the attorney, but it doesn't look good on a defendant's face!

[@reginaowens7754]

Respect one's privacy, compassion in times of sorrow ❤

[@GC2024_]

I missed live, thanks for covering randy

[@Sillydk-ot6dk]

Bubba is the goodest boy ever, and he know those chickens are up to no good. He the hero in this story. I hope Blanca spoils him rotten 😍

[@alicemc8774]

So glad that you're continuing to cover this case.

[@shawnmaddox768]

LOVE the new opening.

[@hollyrotella9931]

I caught your "Snake in the wood pile" DMB reference, nice one 😉

[@Das-uo9bl]

Randy was involved in a documentary (48 Hours or 20/20). At that time, before Alex' arrest, he was supporting Alex.

[@theConquerersMama]

A lot came to light after his arrest.

[@kellyoneill-hinckley2955]

It’s very difficult for family members to come to understand and believe the most horrible action of a family member killing another family member -smh, I know from experience it’s very very disturbing and will haunt you forever, the rest of your life you will grieve for all -even the perpetrator 😞

[@theauroradawn7975]

Do you know if the financial crimes will be televised? Thanks for the updates! Your Awesome!

[@dodiatkins4515]

Good morning everyone. There are still too many unanswered questions. Answers will eventually come out. Can’t wait.

[@katiehettinger7857]

After Maggie's nail technician interview, I want to know why she needed an investigator? Did she talk to Miss Shelly and find Alex wasn't going to his parents home at night as he claimed? Was there another woman, or was he meeting with drug mule and go between Cousin Eddie? Will this be the rabbit hole leading to the stolen money?

[@caseydesocarraz5600]

When Alex, within minutes of his mounting on the stand, said Mags & PawPaw I literally thought about throwing my phone thru the window of my office because it made me so disgusted and sick and mad… That was the straw for me. Everything he said and did after that made me that much more sick! I will say that up to that point I was conflicted at times. He absolutely nailed his own coffin when he made such a disgusting attempt to refer to them as if they were “his world.” 🤢🤮‼️

[@louisechopyak2384]

The jail calls to Buster and Randy are odd

[@amykay2781]

I agree! They are almost talking in code!

[@katmiboundgirl7777]

I wonder if the Bubba saw the guns and thought, “Yeah we are going hunting” and he got excited and grabbed the chicken. Our dog gets exited when she sees us grab her leash or flashlight, she knows we are going to do something she loves to do. She gets excited when someone puts on a swim suit she knows we are going swimming. She knows when we put shoes on we are leaving and she might get to go for a ride. Bubba may have thought he was getting to go hunting.

[@susanpoole-pw6qw]

This will tear the family apart, think Randy knows the truth 😢

[@StuckinMO]

I honestly think they all know the truth, but Randy is the only one who won’t follow the family script.

[@chelly2468]

I think he is genuinely confused. Just like he expressed to the public. But for some reason people on KZbin like to completely mix up what they say. It’s bullshit and getting annoying.

[@Evette_Clay]

Your glasses are EVERYTHING!!! 😍 Do you mind sharing the brand?

[@marycahill546]

In Canada we do not televise trials, and jurors are not to talk about their deliberations EVER. Identity of jurors is kept confidential. No circus up here, just get on with doing our duty.

[@GH-oi2jf]

That’s a good policy, but we have a right of free speech in the USA. Speech can be prohibited only in narrow citcumstances.

[@butterbeanqueen8148]

I see the pros and cons of both sides.

[@socialsocial8350]

@@GH-oi2jf But its not safe for them, the family or friend can do a revenge.

[@mtngrl5859]

You sound rather self-righteous. How do you know things are being done correctly? So, you silence jurors in Canada, sounds very democratic. Not quite sure how your "democratic" process works in Canada, when 67% of the people didn't vote for Justin Trudeau.

[@Candy-O1776]

It’s better with a camera in the court, they can’t lie to us.

[@elizabethlander6205]

Came home and had 5 cats on my couch watching Emily. Typically, it's just Barry on his true crime perch. I leave your streams on to babysit.

[@taylorbug9]

Wholesome

[@B_Bodziak]

That's hilarious!

[@someonesgranny5387]

When you listen to the jail calls it sounds like Alex does seem to speak as if he's removed from what's he's done...and that's just the financial crimes. During one call his brother, John Marvin ,asks him if he could say something to take responsibility to help the other lawyers at the company because they were being viewed so negatively. He replies with something like 'I'll see if there's something I can do to "help"'!!? ...like he's doing them a favour, playing a role he'd played previously.

[@elisebarthalow6075]

I agree. Buster deserves to be left alone and this is over the top. It's not ok.I feel this whole story hasn't ended with Alex going to prison.

[@LizzaJo]

The "Smart" devices brought the victory home. It was incredible, to witness his demise. Monsters are very real. Love your channel ❤️ Thank you

[@lindaelmore784]

On star seal the deal no deny that his every move

[@LizzaJo]

@@lindaelmore784 I found the car and smart tech facinating and shocking... "Systems" (tech) that can reasonable trace and record our every step w teal accuracy are frightening because of the potential for abuse. It was brilliantly used in this situation to lock-up a animal but scary all the same. Thanks for your reply

[@krysta9697]

At first seeing John Marvin testify feeling the grief and sympathy that I thought he had for Paul. But after watching the documentary they filmed he not only days later was seen taking guns from the Mossell property but he also was the one that removed the boat from the seen the next day after the crash. I think he is sus .. it is all is still sus!

[@Candy-O1776]

And he messed up both crime scenes too.

[@shannap.lawnerd125]

Ok, that drone footage was taken September 13, 2021, per the photographer; about a week after the roadside incident. I had to ask after I saw it everywhere!! This would have been when it had been publicly stated that AM was in a rehab in Florida- so I can understand the family removing valuable stuff from an empty house. After the boat crash- I wouldn’t have let my boat get hauled away either, but I also would NEVER have let my kids take it out to party, especially after dark when it had NO LIGHTS. 🤨🤷🏻‍♀️ One more thing: many people don’t realize that after a horrific incident, whether a violent crime, suicide, accident, etc, the police DO NOT clean up the scene. After they are done with the initial investigation, take all the samples/pics, etc etc…they just LEAVE. It’s horrible, & usually just one more terrible thing for the family after a long few days of terrible things. (Yes, I personally know.) If JMM was told that SLED was done there for now, I understand why he would want to help clean up the horrific remnants of this tragic incident. Stay safe out there, be blessed.

[@theConquerersMama]

He can be honestly upset at their loss AND an accomplice.

[@mayrarocha1294]

Love you Emily ! Been with you for a long time now ! Couple trails under our belt ! I’m so happy I found you a while ago and be part of this community! Your so wise and funny ! Love it !