TV Governor and TV Shane were the best things to happen to this show man. And I love that Shane continued to effect Rick. Him hallucinating Shane as part of the Governor's group always gives me chills
@Logan9122 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, I love that hallucination sequence with Shane after Rick falls off the horse in Season 9, and Shane brings up Rick biting Joe’s throat. “That’s what I’m talking about, man!” Plus, Jon Bernthal went on to play The Punisher in the MCU after TWD Season 2, so win-win.
@braddsfx89212 жыл бұрын
I feel like not enough praise is given to David Morrissey for bringing some much drama, emotion and just pure terror to the Governor, you can understand how Andrea falls for him, how she even has sympathy for him, you kind of see the Governor through her eyes and slowly you see his spell wear off on everyone, and let's not forget that moment when he just guns down all his people.
@Logan9122 жыл бұрын
And, damn, Morrissey is absolutely brilliant in that performance. Like when The Governor calls Rick a liar when he says they’re not too far gone, the contrast between Rick’s hope and desperation (Andrew Lincoln is great as always) and the coldness of The Governor. It’s like you can see whatever humanity The Governor had left just fade away when he decides to kill Hershel. The Governor did give Rick’s group a chance to leave the prison despite not caring that it could be a death sentence for them, but there was always that hint of The Governor suppressing the urge to just roll in and kill everyone anyway out of vengeance.
@marveldcextinctionwrestler77732 жыл бұрын
This Made My Day after a pretty rough and Terrible Day
@Talon_Productions2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see the TV show Governor getting so much love! Hes my favorite villain of the show, and I honestly think that he improves upon the comic version. David Morrissey is so freaking good man!
@ReinEngel2 жыл бұрын
"(The Governor) is probably the best TV villain of all-time." You've got a friend for life in me, pal.
@sx37082 жыл бұрын
@Petnopawn2003 wrong
@sx37082 жыл бұрын
@Petnopawn2003 comic governor is a creep. tv governor is a badass mf
@muaddib.atreides2 жыл бұрын
@Petnopawn2003 freddy, we remember you if you ever come back to discord again we still have your IP address we will find you
@RealTalkOrWalk27 күн бұрын
First off, I gotta say this is probably my favorite video on KZbin period & the most extensive ranking of EVERY Walking Dead villain from the TV series & the comics so I love that. Second I think I’m the only one who realizes that Randall was most definitely a villain. I’m actually rewatching the series for the 517th time & watched 18 Miles Out last night & the scene where Randall is tied up & kills that Walker (“come on bitch, let’s see what ya got!”) definitely shows this dude is unhinged af. He stabs that walker in the head & I counted 8 times before the scene cuts back to Rick Vs Shane. I really don’t think the show would’ve included that if he was just a “good dude” so I definitely think he deserves his spot on this list. Also the way he tries to manipulate Carl & how he tells that story about the two girls & their dad to Daryl, plus he admits to Shane (right before he breaks his neck) that he still knows exactly where his group is & says “they’re a rough buncha guys but you’ll fit in good with them”. But every time ppl talk about him they act like he’s not a bad guy
@Mizono20002 жыл бұрын
Great video! I find it crazy that the guy who shoots Rick at the start of the comics is the zombie who bites Amy!
@Illyriandefense99872 жыл бұрын
Love your TWD content man, you’re one of the most insightful commentators we have and even when I might disagree with your assessment (which is rare), I’m always impressed with your thought process and the amount of work that goes into it. Perhaps you could rank the different communities across the Comic/TV universe as a new project?
@KorotoTV2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the nice words, glad you enjoy my ramblings! 😄 The communities I feel like would be super comic leaning, mostly because of budget reasons, so idk whether I'd have much to say there 😅
@christianmanka38842 жыл бұрын
I kinda loved The Wolves. Lead to one of the best episodes of all time and I liked the kinda feralness. I also loved The Hunters. So I guess it’s pretty obvious what kind of villains I like haha
@noahmagana1372 жыл бұрын
Negan is the best twd villain ever. Governor was great but I think the comic version was more evil and less sympathetic than tv govie. TV Shane was a nice expansion. Terminus was a good remix of the hunters as well as the wolves being a stand in for the scavengers. Both versions of whisperers were scary and liked both versions of alpha but I liked that tv beta got more development than comic beta. The reapers were a nice addition and would’ve been better if they had a season to themselves. The commonwealth is great and to me comic Pamela was more of an antagonist than a villain but tv Hornsby is the breakout villain in season 11.
@kevinmalone5842 жыл бұрын
Tv gov is a better character
@PostCrisisRH2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinmalone584 Tv gov isn’t, Novels and Special comics prove why
@PostCrisisRH2 жыл бұрын
@Petnopawn2003 shut up petno you literally got bullied of discord lmao 💀💀
@PostCrisisRH2 жыл бұрын
@Petnopawn2003 Bro you literally deleted your discord account 💀💀
@thatoneturtle77372 жыл бұрын
@Petnopawn2003 Why is petno here
@dorian6462 жыл бұрын
comic governor is an S tier villain
@PostCrisisRH2 жыл бұрын
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@jjkilhij95312 жыл бұрын
Commenting as I watch: Brandon and Morton (bully’s father) were both pretty meh, but did provide a great moment with their death scenes. Brandon getting taken out by Negan after freeing him and Rick doing his second neck bite on Morton 🙏🏾 Lilly Caul is an interesting case, because I do know that it was being considered to have Lilly from the Telltale games be her (biggest hint is that there was an acheievement for episode 3 originally called “Woodbury Bound” that was changed when they scrapped the idea). That being said, she did kill Lori and Judith (by accident) on Governor’s orders so that’s pretty messed up lol
@Yuhyeauhuhsurebuddy12 жыл бұрын
They already confirmed Lilly in Telltales TWD is not the same as the comic version. The novels are about Comic Lilly’s life after the prison attack. Woodbury is literally a ghost town
@Potatodork642 жыл бұрын
Comic Book Governor is easily an S Villain. There is so much fear brought into the comics when he’s introduced. What he does to Michonne and Rick is absolutely crazy, he’s also the cause of death for a lot of big characters like Tyreese, Lori and Hershel in the comics. Everytime I’ve re-read the comics, getting to that governor arc always gives me anxiety knowing what’s coming, and it’s intensified by the other things he does, like feeding Ricks hand to his walker daughter and then pulling out her teeth and making out with her. The dude is Fking twisted, and I just find him terrifying. I was not as deeply impacted by tv show governor. I do agree though, Shane is definitely one of the best written characters in the show
@kaiyacoxon5360 Жыл бұрын
I haven't read the comics but from what I've heard about the governor he was absolutely sick in the head and I thought the TV show governor was fucked up but the TV show governor had was a richer backstory and motive whilst the comic Gov was crazy from the get go whilst though TV Gov was pretty bad, before we actually how he became a monster
@mitsuruneterra6035 Жыл бұрын
Man governor attack prison kill likes 8 major character lol
@xxac3zn8zxx879 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly in the comics it ain't even his daughter it's like his niece💀😭
@Potatodork649 ай бұрын
@@xxac3zn8zxx87 yep it’s his niece. It’s revealed in the Rise of the Governor book. Which I read and found fantastic
@bens7552 Жыл бұрын
I hope you’re revisiting Season 10 before the retrospective, Dante (show) has one of the most scary reveals all culminating to Rosita having to face zombified Siddiq as the last thing standing between Coco and the dead. Dante (show) should’ve been B at least, imo. Captured a uncommon horror moment.
@MistahJay72 жыл бұрын
Negan is my favorite character but The Governor takes the throne for the #1 Villain in the Walking Dead universe. Period point blank.
@shushupyounaughtyminx48322 жыл бұрын
The early season bias is strong
@KorotoTV2 жыл бұрын
Oh for sure, it's there big time. But hey - not much I can really do about that. 😅
@thefreshprincer55872 жыл бұрын
Shane at S tier that’s wtf I’m talking bout
@Dougball14412 жыл бұрын
Great video man you have solid points of view
@dalton59032 жыл бұрын
the reapers were a bit underused i think. A small group that were amazing fighters. Like Brandon Carver. He is a legend, I would have loved him living and Leah dying, because he was badass.
@jjkilhij95312 жыл бұрын
Agreed that TV Governor EASILYYYY, whoops the comic version, David Morissey killed it!
@Zombrex22 жыл бұрын
I like this tier list, although I think it would be an awesome edition if you would’ve added the telltale game villains.
@mortalhordewarrior92852 жыл бұрын
I'm still not even convinced comic Martinez was a villain at all. What if he actually was going back to woodbury to rescue more people? You've even said it yourself, who would support and help some lunatic that feeds people to walkers?? I believe if he went to rick and said he wanted to leave amd save more people, rick would never have believed him. So he made his choice to be a hero, and died for it.. maybe lol
@jjkilhij95312 жыл бұрын
apparently (according to the wiki) in issue 36’s deluxe edition with color, Kirkman did indeed state that in his eyes Martinez was sincere about bringing the good people but there was also the chance of him being overpowered by the people loyal to the Governor and being forced to give up rhe prison location earlier, leaving the crew with less time to build defense
@realbigflopa3 ай бұрын
If we are ranking Dwight as a character, he is probably top 10-15 for me. I never really saw him as a villain past the Abraham kill
@Ant_Mann2 жыл бұрын
Could you rank telltale the walking dead characters? Like Clementine and Lee etc. (If you ever played them)
@Saadpls2 жыл бұрын
That wallpaper is super cool Anyone know where i can get it?? Ps. Loving the content!
@KorotoTV2 жыл бұрын
You mean the Rick riding into Atlanta pic? I made it for the retrospective a while back. I can post it on imugr or smth and link it if you want 👍
@Saadpls2 жыл бұрын
@@KorotoTV Yes sorry for the confusion, the fact that it’s split into both comic/show rick caught my attention. Id appreciate the link :)
@KorotoTV2 жыл бұрын
www.reddit.com/r/thewalkingdead/comments/yykd6b/ive_made_a_whole_bunch_of_assets_for_my_walking/ Made a reddit post about it - the Atlanta one is in there 👍
@themoongateofficial8 ай бұрын
21:19 *thanks bro*
@jj22ftw2 жыл бұрын
duude scorpion, me and my dad used to watch that show and i liked it haha
@damo.r2 жыл бұрын
Negan is the best,the TV version but the comic one is close behind,but I wish you'd use twd telltales game as well cos I think Carver(even tho he's only in 2 episodes he's great)and Lilly would be S or A at the very least mabey Minerva too
@IIIISai2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@angelinapostorivo66612 жыл бұрын
thank you for this :)
@bishbosh48152 жыл бұрын
Why don't you have TV Pamela and Sebastian?
@darwinaguilero31753 ай бұрын
I think Jared should’ve been on this list. The guy who shot Benjamin and got Morgan back into his “clear” mindset for a while? He, in my eyes, represented the worst types of people that were in the saviors. A complete scumbag, someone who probably would’ve been buddy buddy with Simon/Trevor. Great list, though. Cheers.
@thetf81422 жыл бұрын
I really do think lance tv version is S tier I absolutely love him so far But that’s just recency bias I do love the aspect of lance demonstrating psychological dominance over other characters.
@Mastaace Жыл бұрын
I just started reading the comics again 2 days ago, and put these vids on in the background. You should have had Dexter way higher... He was Imo the first real threat the group faced, and the only reason he lost the upper hand on Rick was cause they got attacked by walkers.... Rick shooting him during the melee was some major character development for him. At least B tier for me. And yea comic Governor is S tier you're crazy lol. He cut off tyreeses head! He's responsible for killing Lori and the baby! That's one of the most shocking moments of the entire series.
@FeralCabbage2 жыл бұрын
YOOO LETS GOOO
@bishbosh48152 жыл бұрын
What Michonne had to do in the episode Scars was fucked up and one of the most dark and horrifying things in the show, but Jocelyn as a character and villain wasn't very good
@mridp7695 Жыл бұрын
Is Gregory that forgettable to most people? I loved to hate that man, even if he doesn't accomplish anything the fact that he's there for so long just trying to ruin everything the group are doing and arguably he got Glenn killed, he's an easy A tier for me
@kurt42 жыл бұрын
I ate the entire rating up like I'm a kid who's being fed with a spoon, but when you said "No one really cared about Dante"... Bro you for real? He was a solid villain idc what y'all say
@marveldcextinctionwrestler77732 жыл бұрын
TV Villains ranked 9. Dawn and The Hospital 8. The Wolves 7. The Claimers 6. Terminus 5. The Whisperers 4. The Governor 3. Pete Anderson 2. Negan 1. Shane
@jonathanmendez310 Жыл бұрын
Ngl I hate that Comic Negan is S where as TV Negan is A. I get it but bruh he's so much better but I get it in a way
@ryanelliott716982 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’d argue comic Governor is overhyped. Outside of his cruelty he’s mostly a one note villain. The Hunters I find were much more memorable and interesting.
@Jackson-jd1um2 жыл бұрын
Comic governor makes literally no sense as a character. He’s quite literally insane how does he run a community at any level
@Jackson-jd1um2 жыл бұрын
@Petnopawn2003 ? Comic wood berry ran like a machine. Everyone who died died because of the prison group
@PostCrisisRH2 жыл бұрын
@@Jackson-jd1um Literally because he saved it in the novel and most people don’t know who he truly is
@PostCrisisRH2 жыл бұрын
@@Jackson-jd1um He’s talking about the novels. You know, the backstory to all of it. Of course just reading the comics isn’t the full story.
@PostCrisisRH2 жыл бұрын
And I’d argue against you since the novels have been out for years. The Governor used to be just like Rick but a bit of a coward, but he had a righteous heart until he lost EVERYTHING. His own younger brother didn’t even respect him as a man, his Niece was murdered. Breaking his mind.
@TheMist3rMan2 жыл бұрын
When he put Dwight on the list we saw a pretty goofy shape 😏
@anthonybell56662 жыл бұрын
Randall couldn't do anything because he was killed before he could lol
@bishbosh48152 жыл бұрын
Michonne can kill kids but can't say fuck 🤣
@bishbosh48152 жыл бұрын
What don't you like about Negan now in the show? You want him to be goofy?? He was a completely one note character when he was a villain, he feels like a real person now, and what would be the point of his redemption arc if he was still an antagonistic asshole?
@johnDeer-oo3fb19 күн бұрын
The reception arc was not realistic and kinda stupid. They just wanted us to make us like him which ruined his character
@sunnydaypickle9392 жыл бұрын
ngl, Bob odenkirk would be a really good actor for lance
@youngmindelevation11762 жыл бұрын
Thomas richards was atleast A tier in the comics
@marveldcextinctionwrestler77732 жыл бұрын
Pete is My Favorite Villain in The Comics
@gfilmer71502 жыл бұрын
Comic Negan is this super interesting villain because you love him so much despite wanting to hate him. Negan in the show doesn't have this affect due to how try hard evil they make him in the show and how inconsistent he is going from Season 7 to Season 8. Gimple was replaced during Season 8 I believe and I feel Negan became more consistent after that.
@civicrepublicmilitary12 жыл бұрын
CRM is a S teir villain
@iistar25532 жыл бұрын
Thank you about Negan.. I find his TV counterpart to be so inconsistent and JDM’s performance is one of the very few reasons Negan is a character favorite. In the more recent seasons, I find his character to be a shell of his old self. It’s so annoying how the show has fully pledged him into this ‘redemption arc’ because much of his dialogue comes off as bad writing. I much rather Negan just stay his old unapologetic self, because that’s truly how he feels at the core. Telling Maggie if he had a second chance at everything, he would’ve just killed them all; just for him to cry about how he changed everytime he’s met with the threat of death. It’s annoying and a waste of character development that could easily be replaced with a badass Negan death, but that’s not gonna happen. Still a fun character nonetheless.
@bishbosh48152 жыл бұрын
He isn't apologetic, he's still an asshole, he's just more sympathetic and he's lost all his power so it's in his interest to play the good guy and help the characters protecting them and making up for what he did, rather than to leave and live on his own or start again. But he did actually do that when he realised Maggie would never forgive him and now I think he just wants to protect his wife and unborn son. He has a redemption arc, why tf would they keep him the same evil villain, that negates the whole point, and they'd just kill him if he was still antagonistic towards Maggie. He's still not actually apologised to Maggie, in 11A he left her to die and then tells her he wished he'd killed all of them instead of just Glenn (and Abraham), and he still has that swagger and is still pretty selfish and pushes people's buttons, but without being the Big Bad Wolf leader of the Saviors, OF COURSE he isn't going to be as formidable and intimidating. I don't really know what you want. He's not a villain anymore, he's an antihero, but he's certainly not vanilla goody goody apologising for everything
@RevohYT2 жыл бұрын
can u do one without the comics now? lol
@Bluerock121 Жыл бұрын
Why would he do one without the superior version of the story
@FlamedSulfur2 жыл бұрын
Reapers A tier
@bishbosh48152 жыл бұрын
You've included so many unnecessary characters 😂
@Bluerock121 Жыл бұрын
Lily killed Lori and Judith wdym she didn’t do anything? Lol
@mitsuruneterra6035 Жыл бұрын
And then kill governor
@sethlast90242 жыл бұрын
Lia is like 4 tiers too low
@Zombrex22 жыл бұрын
I like this tier list, although I think it would be an awesome edition if you would’ve added the telltale game villains.