For the people who clicked on the video just to skip to the end to see the full list: I'll put my thoughts on Emilie in this pinned comment after she comes out so check back in a couple weeks :)
@verzetta4 ай бұрын
A lot of people who skip the entire video and only see the final list will surely misunderstood about the niche tier and comment in disagreement with it.
@FormerEmiliaBestWifi4 ай бұрын
Why everyone plays Firefly when I was waiting for that video for so long 😢
@valentinnoguera55894 ай бұрын
Idk why some people do that, the video is literally about your opinion on the characters
@kadeno9254 ай бұрын
watched all w evaluation
@flamestorm314 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure she is niche because her gimmick is burning.
@headerkokab4 ай бұрын
The fact that there's not a single Cryo in the top 2 tiers... I really hope Snezhnaya brings some serious love to that element
@agiant57154 ай бұрын
Hopefully with natlan rumored to have mechanics that buffs melt/vape reactions, cryo may have a comeback the same way dendro made alot of electro characters turn from niches to must haves
@Otherface4 ай бұрын
I still remember when Cryo was the beta was in 1.x-2.x. Coming back to the game after so long and realizing Cryo's poor state was shocking.
@TacticalDimples4 ай бұрын
Cryo has the worst reaction in this game-superconduct. Electro is easily one of the best in the game and running a cryo unit causes weird anti-synergy. Another problem is dendro requiring far less investment value vs hypercarry comps. The fact that cryo, like geo, has limited and weaker elemental reactions is also holding them back. They need to rework both cryo and geo, but this is Genshin side of HoYo, they’re some of the most stubborn devs in gacha.
@DGS_ZERO4 ай бұрын
@@TacticalDimples who knows maybe a cryo support that buffs superconduct or freeze might come out just like what thay did to overload with chevruse i think hoyo is trying to make all niche reactions relevant
@PopersIRL4 ай бұрын
ya we have melt (natlan) and cryo archon coming. honestly keeping it weak for now is good as a precaution considering harbingers will be on the way
@Slayloy694204 ай бұрын
THE SILENCE WITH ALOY LMAOOOOO ITS TRUE THOUGH AHAHAHHA
My life is yours now, thank you for your commitment 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@aaeve56764 ай бұрын
@@olixil68....Itto
@kamilkarwowski55794 ай бұрын
I feel like niche category should be above decent. Those characters are less versatile but in practise way better then those in decent tier.
@lillyie3 ай бұрын
thats... literally what niche means. being good at one specific thing and that specific thing only
@MarwinMalijan2 ай бұрын
@@lillyiexiao niche? How? Xiao can insert on sunfire or double geo like zhongli chiori xiao the creators team knowledge is not that good
@ISMythixАй бұрын
@@MarwinMalijanxiao in sunfire and double geo is far worse than his premium team he is definitely niche lol
@THE_Dr_Nguyen4 ай бұрын
wtf? This is blatant propaganda. Aloy is an easy s tier. 100% fact checked by the enigmata.
@jonathan02254 ай бұрын
🤣keep smoking my dude, aloy who?
@namelessunnamed65444 ай бұрын
Bro missed the joke
@Biohacker7774 ай бұрын
Bow Greatest don't aloy Aloy the abyss spiral @#8#;! Most why cryo -however+% single a0e target charging -The Riddler
@jonathan02254 ай бұрын
@@namelessunnamed6544 i get the joke dude, she's always been. 😆 guy is definitely in it.
@cayz44744 ай бұрын
Followers of Enigmata spreading misinformation yet again... Y'all should follow Nous instead
@WatasyWahyo4 ай бұрын
I would Switch Klee and Yoimiya. Yes Yoimiya is single target, but she is so easy to play, she attacks so fast that you almost don't need to move around to clean multiple waves of enemies. On the other hand, klee is too clunky to play. Even though I switched my yoimiya for arlechino for every much all the content, yoimiya has been cleaning all the content for me for the past 2 years
@TheJH10154 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! The only thing you need to do with Yoi is throw a shielder on her team, put in an Anemo shredder and a Hydro applier for Vape, and you can wreck anything without worrying about animation cancels, HP levels and whatnot. She's SO comfy.
@yashtandon74604 ай бұрын
Yoi is pretty much meant for bossing and there are many bosses in abyss. Also, her teams are very flexible.
@captainburger86104 ай бұрын
@@TheJH1015lyeny is better bennett witch everyone has a shielder and xiangling boom everything is dead
@kawaiimika79744 ай бұрын
I will not read the rest of your comment. No, JUST NO! Klee is way more powerful than Yoimiya 😭 It doesn't matter how "comfy" she is when she can't clear anything that introduces a DUST of AoE. If you don't like Klee, that's fair, but she's better than her and so is every other Pyro DPS. And you have so many to choose from too! You have Diluc, Gaming, Yanfei, Hu Tao, Arlechino, Lyney and obviously Xiangling. You can even play DPS Bennett and he would be better than her 😭
@AJ_._._4 ай бұрын
Having to kill every enemy one by one wastes so much time. You need to deal way more damage for it to be worth it
@Yippiribi4 ай бұрын
Aah the state of Cryo as a element is awful rn.
@1norwood14 ай бұрын
I started playing after a long break (I stopped playing around when Dehya came out) , my best team was Ayaka+ Shenhe freeze team. Since I stated playing again I hardly use that team at all. Luckily I have Nahida so now I just play hyperbloom for everything it is crazy to me how bonkers dendro element is.
@lunaredelvour29724 ай бұрын
I knowwwww I'm still sobbing about it, all my favorite go-to characters are cryo and if it's not cryo it's hydro and I'm so sad about it. I came for the exploration/story, but I stayed for Kaeya - he was my first main and I love him to pieces even now. Wriothesley was my first 5* and I also still love him to pieces. First real shielder I built and began to use reliably? Layla. First 5* healer that I got and built and used? Qiqi. I don't know why I have such a soft spot for cryo characters, but I do love all my cryo children and I am still waiting for the day cryo and freeze (my favorite reaction) finally get some love and attention
@flamezforthegamez10564 ай бұрын
One is that it has an inherent link to physical which is in a terrible state [if only superconduct shred both phys and cryo; could eveb sub for VV eith superconduct], freeze being exclusively focused on raw dmg carried by MVs and buffing them, and melt having a dependence on the very fee pyro applicators we have and only one good pyro sub dps OPPA
@davinlee34124 ай бұрын
We'll have to wait for Snezhnaya to make Cryo meta again
@cloudunderweather95543 ай бұрын
well not being able to work with dendro hurt them a bunch...
@googlrscholar4 ай бұрын
even though explained that the "niche tier" can still be top tier, seeing childe xiao and nilou below the entire "decent tier" and even some on the "excellent tier" just feels so wrong lmao
@Riwul4 ай бұрын
Thats because they need very specific teammates while the decent tier works in a bunch of teams. for example can run melt, vaporize, vaporize plunge or mono pyro. Vaporize plunge is far superior to the others but there are options. Childe can run international or taser effectively but is a worse taser driver than sucrose. Nilou has by definition no options beside her nieche and xiao really got it rough if you dont build specifically his best teams nowadays. Faruzan and or xianyun are kinda required which heavily limits his teams aswell.thats right there. Is the definition of niche.
@wilburforce80464 ай бұрын
@@Riwulthis is such a nothing bagel though. Playing a B tier team isn’t flexibility you are just choosing to be weak. Varrs rated the higher tier placements by the strength of their best teams. Do you really think zhong is S in a world where Neuv doesn’t exist? No. So Zhongli is “niche” as a nuev bot from a meta strength perspective. This flexibility cope is only relevant if you have a weak account with limited options. Nilou for example can sometimes have more real team options then someone like hu tao because of how many dendro and hydro units she can use. So is hu tao niche now? It’s all just laziness on y’all’s part to have a niche tier.
@kaizu83264 ай бұрын
tbf both childe and xiao require very high investments while still not being top dps. Childe is only as good as your Xiangling, and Xiao is very dependent on a set that no one should really be farming, and again the damage aren't the most impressive
@MortisTangit4 ай бұрын
@@wilburforce8046 IMO Zhongli isn't niche. He's a top tier option for Neuvillette (at c0), and he's still a premium option in many cases for Hu Tao, Arlecchino, and others. So yeah, without Neuvillette, Zhongli would still be S both for strength in role and flexibility. Just like with every version, I'm sure there will be meta DPS in Natlan that also prefer Zhongli on the team.
@simonditomasso98684 ай бұрын
That’s because the niche tier shouldn’t exist. If a character’s niche, just rank them based on how good the niche is, simple as that
@theampeel4 ай бұрын
Emilie will probably go in niche because of burning teams only
@stop83884 ай бұрын
anemo traveler underrated as hell, burst single handedly carried my baby acc through the current slime spam chamber
@agiant57154 ай бұрын
+ dont forgot about how his skill and burst were the easiest way to break abyss mages shields in the early game without needing to swap teammates (plus needing to build said teammates with low resources).
@sb18wlc4 ай бұрын
This, I was able to 36* the remainder of 1.X patches since 1.3 because of Anemo Traveler. Her Tornado Burst blocked by a wall deals so much damage as well.
@MSSProductions14 ай бұрын
omg this is actually so helpful, i didn't even think of that
@haidithizhar54074 ай бұрын
Chlorinde's main advantage over cyno is bcs she is a skill dps imo. I have both cyno and CL with their sig weapons, and CynoBaizhuFurinaNahida did more than CL overload. However, one uses burst while the other uses skill. So theyre kinda very similar in terms of overall dmg output but CL is slightly more efficient bcs she doesnt suffer from er issues. And i love them both!❤
@ranjithrasu8962Ай бұрын
Swap ur cyno with tf clorinde, you'll see whose better
@haidithizhar540725 күн бұрын
@@ranjithrasu8962 bro didnt read thru my comment lol
@kim56684 ай бұрын
I think the niche tier kinda ruins this list. There are too many overlaps between the tiers when you put all these characters in niche. Xiao/Bennett teams deserve to at least be in decent if we are comparing to standard 5 star characters in decent tier. Childe being in niche while lyney is in two tiers above is very inconsistent as they both use the same characters and lyney has more dps loss with his charge shot playstyle. Both of them should at least be decent tier and held to same standards, according to your rules. I think this is probably just recency bias. Nilou is “niche” but is still powerful and extremely accessible compared to any other dps. She can run completely f2p characters and still do good damage without farming high quality artifacts and investing in talents. That is enough to make her excellent for anyone who pulls her.
@FormerEmiliaBestWifi4 ай бұрын
Furina is still the best character ever both story and gameplay-wise and I refuse to believe any of the Natlan characters will top that. (Let me cope)
@French_Hellmo4 ай бұрын
Its crazy how dori solos
@RicardoGutierrezNavacerrada4 ай бұрын
Can I cope with you pls
@leonziedrich40934 ай бұрын
@@French_Hellmodori? Is that a new character?
@animecrystl4 ай бұрын
Lets see if mavuika can compete
@EmperMiner19904 ай бұрын
Let me cope with you, please!
@itslikeameatyexplosion4 ай бұрын
Vars you should start a book reading/asmr channel. your voice is just so pleasant to listen to
@devam81924 ай бұрын
The only point I would disagree with is Childe being powercrept by nuvie considering there teams dont even clash in anyway. If anything Nuvie increased childe usage a lil bit by making him a support.
@googlrscholar4 ай бұрын
exactly. neuvi is literally all about raw hydro damage while childe is all about hydro application. both unmatched in those respective categories
@tuguldurm93024 ай бұрын
Childe is used in international cuz he has no icd
@ThieuAnhDuong-we2zc4 ай бұрын
Childe and neuvi arent even sharing a role
@usmanya51104 ай бұрын
i think the one who suffers from powercreep from neuvi is ayato since childe has that a team where he works best in while ayato doesn't(maybe nilou but kokomi is also there.)
@santi32564 ай бұрын
Well, Childe is a one trick pony, he is only great on National in any other team he is below average. So yeah they definitely dont clash cause Childe better in national (and that is mathematically talking, in actual gameplay i would say neuvilete is better even in national, so basically better than him in everyithing xd).
@enderboy45474 ай бұрын
Yes the 4 star tierlist is in demand!! I love this type of videos I hope you make more😊
@botondnyitrai31284 ай бұрын
To be fair Keqing's main selling point is her excelent uptime. Her dps is not reliant on her burst like Cyno, and its CD is low enough to accomodate to the current mutivawe content in abyss. Clorine does more damage, but without the OG electro artifact her CDs can be a bit iffy. If they ever release a character that can reset Skill CDs that might be Childe's ticket back to the meta. I would definetly had put Yae one tier lower. Her kit is way too clunky, and considering she is supposed to be an off field character, she is out way too much. Putting down all 3 turrets, then ult, then putting them down again...
@bachy49754 ай бұрын
Tell me you've never played childe before without telling me you've never played childe before
@botondnyitrai31284 ай бұрын
@@bachy4975 I did play him. And found his long skill cd pretty restricting. Always getting forced into a quickswappy playstyle
@Marz3334 ай бұрын
No Yae is arguably the best electro for her versatility, she has 100% uptime and huge range especially at c2 and if she’s clunky for you that’s skill issue because all yae users know not to “eeeqeee” and you can use her e to dash from atks easily, don’t even compare keqing to the limited line up she just doesn’t compete in all their best teams like cyno quickbloom, clorinde aggravate and yae in general out dps any of her teams and ofc if u have multiple cons on her she would feel better than a less invested electro dps. Yae is the most flexible electro dps we have since she can also be sub dps and she’s very future proof in that regard
@botondnyitrai31284 ай бұрын
@@Marz333 Yae's problem, is that her E dash is not just slow, but it doesn't give you I-frames either. If you wanna use her on field, then she is subpar bcs of her weak normal and chrged attacks. If you wanna use her as an off-field dps, then she takes too much time to set up correctly. Fischl is almost always a better choice, bcs you can just press one buttin and she is basically at ful usefulness. Yae is nowhere near being the best electro, stop simping. Cyno quickbloom is just an okay team. His burst cancels if you swap out, so any time a new set of enemies come you will fck up your rotation bcs you will have to put dendro back on them. You can either use DMC, but then you are just back to circle impact and fcked the moment an enemy goes outside of it, or pull for Baizhu, who is just not worth it to be honest, not to mention his ult does not have that consistent of a dendro buildup. Funnily enough Clorinde quickbloom is better bcs all of her attacks are aoe and her cooldowns are much more friendly then Cyno
@bachy49754 ай бұрын
@@botondnyitrai3128 I guess you haven't played him well is a better way to put it. His skill CD is fine and lineup with the team rotations anyways if you stayed on field with him for the right amount of time. Which is 9 to 11 seconds that is the same as most on field carry like hutao,yoi,wrio,raiden,Itto,diluc,klee who all stay on field for 9-11s and i don't see people complain these characters are quickswap. If anything childe is more flexible in the fact that he can extend his skill to match 15-18s like xiao,cyno, or reduce it to 5-8 navia,clorinde. Mainly what i want to say is that his ticket back to the top meta is a better xiangling and/or bennett so that his team can do more dmg. His skill CD is something that you as a player can easily work around. But doing more dmg is not
@Tam-lv1mp4 ай бұрын
I'm Pleasantly surprised. probably the best tier list I've seen to date. there isn't any glaring issues, while I do disagree with a few choices, there is nothing sacrileges Great Work Vars II
@TundraRage4 ай бұрын
(Me sitting here hoping for a Childe rerun because I joined in 4.1) TvT
@_.___.._4 ай бұрын
Here before people come crying over their characters not being rated as top tier
@Nggiigi88-5564 ай бұрын
Fr 😂
@FormerEmiliaBestWifi4 ай бұрын
NOOOOOO HE DID AYAKA DIRTY WHY IS SHE NOT SSSSSS TIER 😭😭😭
@bruh33694 ай бұрын
Real😂😂
@joakinsane4 ай бұрын
@@FormerEmiliaBestWifibecause she needs a lot of resources invested to do the same dmg as hyperbloom teams for example
@FormerEmiliaBestWifi4 ай бұрын
@@joakinsane it's obviously a joke to follow OP's comment lol
@rona04274 ай бұрын
Pretty good tier list all things considered. The “niche” tier kinda makes zero sense; I get that you felt like you had to add it because the list has no stipulations, but some of the characters in niche can easily be added to other tiers if you just built in stipulations to the list. Since having Itto and Xiao in the same tier is both confusing and not really good design; Xiao being by far and away the better unit when both have their premium “niche” teams.
@Asle_Kaspersen3 ай бұрын
Itto is actually better than Xiao , dont know what shitty teams u are using
@fredthewreckyt4 ай бұрын
neuv didn't powercreep childe. he powercrept ayato. childe is still preferred for internat even if neuv has greater value overall whereas ayato's final niche is bloom which neuv isnt far behind
@TheJH10154 ай бұрын
Neuvillette didn't even powercreep Ayato since Ayato has a COMPLETELY different role than Neuvillette. Neuv is a hypercarry. Ayato is an on-field Hydro *drive* and off field *AoE Hydro applier.*
@gizdra11284 ай бұрын
Neuvilette did not powercreep childe, he powercreeped the entire international team xD in speedruun I have seen better times from neuvilette teams than international teams today. but come on, it's a 3 or 4 year old team that has aged well.
@ambervaldez48444 ай бұрын
Let's face it, Neuvillette powercrept everybody.
@AmbroseVermillion3 ай бұрын
Facts, Neuvillette made Childe super useful as a support. Lvl boosting Neuvi talent is optimal Childe abuse
@ESCStroopwafel4 ай бұрын
I believe that Raiden's got ideal versatility for electro in general. Her E ticks with so many different kinds of attacks, I personally really love using the combination of her with Nahida and Neuvillette for extremely easy hyperbloom reactions, have the 4th slot be Zhongli for the sake of having a strong and dependable shield, and boom. Strong team that can take down almost anything. Given her burst, using Nahida's E makes it a healthy alternative for anything immune to hydro in case Neuvillette can't take it down.
@FinnHuman63784 ай бұрын
You know how they can fix Cryo? Release a character that increases Shatter Damage multiplyer like an Overload for Chevy or Bloom with Nilou. That way players are incentivise to do freeze shatter without making freeze overpowered.
@agiant57154 ай бұрын
Maybe would have been better if you waited intill emile's releases so it becomes a whole up to ver 4 list but no biggie
@deepblueh71724 ай бұрын
Lyney really is a beast of a dps but most people dont like his playstyle (or just dont like him) making him one of the five stars with lowest owner rate. Its so fun to one shot bossess with him and actually he's okay with aoe too because his best team is bennett xiangling and kazuha which most of us already have
@bruhmomento60573 ай бұрын
I havent played this game since enkonomiya released, alots changed. Ganyu and ayaka not being a or s tier really surprised me.
@perishing4 ай бұрын
I love your tire list, it's really useful for knowing what is worth pulling or not ❤.
@tomato52503 ай бұрын
I believe that snezhnaya will make my ganyu useful and powerful again 😭
@adlynadhif4 ай бұрын
actually a pretty good tierlist. there is some character who i think miss a mark, but its not that far off. pretty suprising for a genshin tierlist who normally put anything in S
@DefinitelyNotAFerret4 ай бұрын
Can you do a tier list on the best characters to pull for each element theater? I assume it would be characters who don't rely on other characters to function at the top
@agiant57154 ай бұрын
That's a fun idea especially if in the future they increased its difficulty so non dps oriented characters cant cheese though it. A good example of someone who has a different standing in theatre compared to other game content for me atleast was venti. Many chambers had only suckable mobs and especially in the defense of the monolith one he was a much greater use even compared to my top dps arlecchino (basically solo-ed 3 chambers with only his Qs).
@Camelia4374 ай бұрын
@@agiant5715 They can't inscrease the difficulty if we have to play 3 dps on the same team and you are forced to play trials characters (look at their builds) if we don't have them too. For now, everyone can be good enough. The best are the one who can be play on field and off field, because they will be great if you don't have a dps or if you have to play 2 or 3 dps together.
@pagauthier30794 ай бұрын
Thanks for confirming I pulled the right characters!
@a_person._.72144 ай бұрын
Please remember with this, pull for who you want. If you love a charachter, pull for them and use them. For example, I like to use dps Kirara. Is she the best dps in the world? No. Would Alhaitham or Tighnari or (fill in the blank) be a better dendro dps? Probably. But don't consider those questions unless you want to dedicate your playstyle to highest numbers possible. I like Kiraras playstyle, her charachter, and story. Remember, Genshin Impact is a game. So PLAY it and ENJOY it. And if someone else says "that charachter is garbage this one is so much better" blah blah blah, don't listen! Enjoy the game and the characters you love, don't feel ashamed for doing so!
@VrtielA63004 ай бұрын
We need to blame them back..! Because for me... It's for Keqing...
@hohoho6203Ай бұрын
??? why do you feel so attacked? this is literally a tier list on meta gameplay, not waifu value he literally said there's a thing called waifu over meta
@yaemikoshandler4 ай бұрын
The dehya ranking is soooo outdated 😭 sure she's still bad but she's not QIQI or ALOY level bad she can actually be a decent pyro defensive option for neuv, wrio, arlecchino, chlorinde and lyney, this I feel makes her at least above the bottom tier. Assuming with cons also, furina buffs the hell out of her damage so she can be used as a decent on field dps
@lafeechloe69984 ай бұрын
She almost always weaker than thomas...
@aaeve56764 ай бұрын
Unless you're the geo archon, the best defence in genshin is always a amazing offence.
@michaelhan22913 ай бұрын
I think she also allows for a Ganyu team without Zhongli (burnmelt)
@imo0987652 ай бұрын
@@aaeve5676 except for teams that need HP fluctuation Need pyro off field application, pyro resonance for Arlechinno trigger burning, Burgeon while still being alive
@Kat.x32 ай бұрын
She is also now best inslot with Mualani and The natlan dendro dps. There is no way she is on par with qiqi and aloy
@kian-ganji4 ай бұрын
I haven't watched the video yet but If Neuvillette doesn't have his own DPS tier then the list isn't listings
@magiclover93464 ай бұрын
I moved Nueve down to excellent. He's clunky on controllers which is how I play. No spin to win and quick reposition. But yeah can't argue with S on keyboard and mouse
@creepyasgramdpa99163 ай бұрын
Another thing I like about Xianyun is her 2 big plunge skill damage plus faruzan. She can go 100k per plunge.
@readmuvluv4 ай бұрын
20:28 "We could put him (Lyney) in niche but who doesn't have Bennett and Xiangling?" But Childe is niche tier apparently? Even with the exact same circumstances? So much for consistency.
@VarsII4 ай бұрын
In fairness, in the Childe section I had the same thought of putting Childe in excellent too. Also, Lyney can use a range of supports to round out his team while Childe can only use bennett/xiangling/kazuha to complete International. He can't swap out any of them, whereas lyney's only obligatory pairing is bennett (xiangling is paired because she's bennett's best friend). And finally - as a reminder this tier list also takes pull necessity into consideration. Childe international is one of those teams where OG players who already have him will use him, but I don't think it's really a team you want to go for in the modern day anymore.
@zedith60454 ай бұрын
@@VarsII it's most definitely a team that you still want to play. look up Childe international speedruns in abyss. it's still one of the strongest and most consistent teams in the game. Lyney is far more niche because not only does he require the same teammates to do good damage but he also has to worry about not being interrupted so he often performs a lot worse than he does in sheets because you either have to replace Kazuha with Zhongli which is a huge DPS loss or you have to dodge which is also a huge DPS loss
@torbjornlindholm40984 ай бұрын
Childe isn’t niche he can also be used as a Neuvillette support
@AJ_._._4 ай бұрын
@@VarsII The only "range of supports" is Kazuha and Zhongli. That puts him 2 tiers above Childe?
@Camelia4374 ай бұрын
@@VarsII The only reason why now I can imagine skip Childe is because we still don't have any support or sub dps pyro so I skip everyone who use Bennett or Xiangling. I don't regret having him, but I am so bored of Xiangling and Bennett. I know a characters who need a pyro support/sub dps will not improve as much as others characters because they have a obsession to only release pyro on field dps. I didn't realise before. Hu Tao got better supports everytime because she use hydro sub dps instead and she doesn't use Bennett or Xiangling. So no, Lyney is a hard skip and he is harder than Childe to play too.
@lastchance90002 ай бұрын
The FF14 music is amazing! I love FF14 and your tier list is good, I appreciate the explanation of each character to know who to pull.
@yourlocalhuman31074 ай бұрын
I sometimes question why youtubers always put it as kindly and lightly as possible when a character isnt in the top 2 tiers but then i feel myself getting so mad at yoimiyas spot 💀
@asuradexterosity65124 ай бұрын
Thank you for ur annual updates on character tier list VARS. I agree with the pros and cons of each character you highlighted I truly agree But in d end, i will always say WAIFU>META
@Foxfire-chan4 ай бұрын
This is the most cooked tier list I’ve seen in a while. The bias is so palpable that the accuracy rating is deplorable.
@axen_fire4 ай бұрын
Not trying to start an argument, but could you please explain which part is biased? Cus i've seen lots of similiar comments so i want to understand better
@axen_fire4 ай бұрын
Yk to get a better view of the feeling of the community on this topic and things like that, since i usually stay away from comparing characters
@bonk83114 ай бұрын
really? i'd love to hear your opinions on what you don't agree with like the other person in this reply chain said because i agree with this list except for a few placements
@briecarla5564 ай бұрын
Why? I agree with most except for a few characters
@PoyoPoyomfs4 ай бұрын
6 hours and you didn't explain what is exactly biased.
@jart3724 ай бұрын
Overall a decent list, but I strongly disagree with puting baizhu and xianyun as top tier. If you compare them to other in that list, nahida neuvilete, furina, they are not even close. Baizhu is more like a comfort pick, he is not core for any meta team. Xianyun enables weaker character, but thats it. Im not even sure if they deserve to be in ''excelent'' tier.
@akumatsubasa67274 ай бұрын
I mean, Furina doesn't work without a healer especially in C0 ^^
@gharbisyassine75764 ай бұрын
Baizhu’s value is huge , he’s op with neuvilette , with all dendro teams , in superbloom , with clorinde , in burgeon , in meltburning , he’s really as useful and powerful as nahida , and this is also from my experience and the experience of his havers
@predation64564 ай бұрын
@@gharbisyassine7576 lol baizhu really eating good in S tier. He have the best team in the game. Neuv. Furina and kazuha. I'm lucky I pull for him
@caturday17244 ай бұрын
This. I like Baizhu and use him a lot, but he's not as game changing as the other units at the top.
@Dakyi4 ай бұрын
You say this as if any other character didn't have a condition to even be used, Furina's condition to be used is to have a healer, for Nahida it is to have a type based on proficiency and strong elemental reactions related to dendro, the value of yelan in a team that doesn't take advantage of its potential is simply ridiculous, and you can extend this to all characters, the fact that Furina's condition only requires a healer to work 100% is actually to its advantage, as the healer just allows her buff to work better and more consistently, which makes her the most versatile character in the game, entering LITERALLY any composition, from solo hydro with a hu-tao to an arlecchino or Nilou, they may not be teams that take advantage of 100%, But they are strong enough teams just because of Furina and a he@@akumatsubasa6727
@zegrathbloodshade57854 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for a Star Rail version, tho we already know who are the top tier already
@OtavioRubin4 ай бұрын
For me, it's just a bad approach calling itto/xiao niches. I mean, if you say so, why is Ayaka not niche as well?? She has one viable team, Wich is freeze. She can play at melt as well xiao can play taser, but they are just bad at it. You can change the hydro/cryo.options, the same way you can change between xianyun/zhongli/furina/bennet in xiao teams. It just not make sense at all to call xiao/itto/Klee niche and then put Ayaka at not niche
@OtavioRubin4 ай бұрын
And then nilou?????? If the criteria was having only one team, this just not make sense at all, I'm sorry. Okay, nilou is "stable" and has a solid team, but the others as well. And is also only one team
@Tam-lv1mp4 ай бұрын
I think the problem with the niche tier is where it is placed, characters in the niche tier seem to be a majorily better than the characters in decent so I think if he swapped the tiers it would be pretty much perfect
@rajaryan-fe1oy4 ай бұрын
"How hard do you wish to offend every single commenter" Vars: Yes
@saif-gv6gl4 ай бұрын
it's not hard to do so tbh, you can literally take a picture of a glass of water, send it to hoyolab, and people would argue about it. This community is full of snowflakes who are offended at anything that isn't in line with their views. Shit's Twitter but with anime and horny weebs
@adamling47374 ай бұрын
The four star tier list would be incredibly helpful, hope a video is made soon
@Spawnamvs4 ай бұрын
Ive had a question about the communities stance on Zhongli being a dps loss Is the dps lost so drastic that it negates the fact that you not longer lose dps when dodging and can focus your full rotation on the enemy while having def reduction?
@agiant57154 ай бұрын
Sadly many people are still thinking with spreadsheet numbers mindset. Nvm how the people most expert in the theorycrafting part of the game are usually the same ones that find joy in doing crit fishing showcases with like 10:300 ratios so they are biased in having high tolerance to restart a domain/abyss chamber 10s of times if they fail a dodge or 2. Reminds of the saying of take caution when asking a pro player about a non pvp game meta as their advice may actually lead you to have a worse experience overall.
@Spawnamvs4 ай бұрын
@@agiant5715 I've always wondered that. His dps loss can't be so bad that it isn't made up for by the benefit of not having to dodge or not being staggered. Unless having that 3rd buffer makes your team THAT much stronger, but I'm not deep in the community so I'm genuinely curious
@zedith60454 ай бұрын
he doesn't reduce defense he just lowers resistances by about 15% iirc. and yes if you are a good player the amount of time that it takes to dodge a few times or just time your bursts right so that you can abuse the I frames on them is so little that it actually does make Zhongli a pretty significant damage loss. There are some characters however that really want to finish an animation that they can be interrupted during like Eula, Wanderer, Yoimiya, etc. but that's part of what makes them so bad in the first place.
@zaboono4 ай бұрын
I think it kind of depends, there are characters like yoimiya who have their strongest basic attacks at the end of their combo and having that resistance to interruption will help you get that, if you’re using characters that don’t have this issue it’s probably just better to run something else
@Spawnamvs4 ай бұрын
@@zedith6045 I do agree that better players will be better off not using them since I've gotten accustomed to dodging and i-framing (thanks Bloodborne and Souls games), but I think that lies on the rng you get that specific run. My main thought is that the convenience of his shield makes up for it due to not needing to use as much stamina, consume resources (like burst and healing), and having continuous pressure makes up for the loss of dps, but I do understand what you're saying. It's more like a case-by-case thing, but stronger characters don't necessarily need him (Edit) Zhongli reduces all resistances by 20%
@flowingwater80204 ай бұрын
Very good tier list
@silverX38704 ай бұрын
Putting Klee above Yoimiya and Eula is insane to me 💀
@carlos2villalobos2764 ай бұрын
Klees main problem was the fact that she cant vape, cause of the stupid amount of hydro she applies, now with kasuha,benneth,xiangling,furina,yelan etc. She is really good, plus her c2 makes her one of the best supports for showcases
@agiant57154 ай бұрын
Eula sadly suffers alot in AOE content maybe thats why atleast? Got a freind who c6-ed her (his only c6 so not really a massive whale just a diehard eula main) and took 2 days to 36* this abyss with her because of how bad she did in the waves chambers. Im sure klee with that much investment what have no problem 36* both AOE and sgt stuff atleast.
@mohamine.t4 ай бұрын
@@agiant5715 i have ayato and childe i think childe is better by far
@Fr00stee4 ай бұрын
@@carlos2villalobos276you mean pyro not hydro
@agiant57154 ай бұрын
@zhuofanb childe is ofc better. The only content in the whole game his national team is remotely checked by is golden wolf cus u are forced to run a geo guy to break the mask phase. Otherwise no elemental check/dmg check/health check/aoe check thing can beat him.
@yellyhayce96124 ай бұрын
As a triple-crown diluc main, thank you for putting him in the decent tier. I've seen so many diluc haters throughout the years that keep calling him trash all because they lost their 50/50 to him. I never really liked hu tao, lyney, and yoimiya's playstyles which kept me from pulling for them. ever since I started the game until now, I still use diluc and he fits right perfectly in the tier that you put him in. also I find it kinda funny how most of the units I play are all on the decent tier
@ZECRA6024 ай бұрын
Nobody show this video to Zyoxxx
@ednatopg30744 ай бұрын
To be fair he said that xiao is top tier with his premium team
@pukipuki67124 ай бұрын
for chiori you can run her in double geo comps alongside zhongli and use that as a core for a bunch of teams like with hutao and yelan, neuvillette and litterally anyone, tighnari and yae miko, dehya and bennett, heizou and furuzan, yoimiya and xingqiu, keqing and nahida, raiden and kujou sara,tartaglia and xiangling, xianyun and diluc/xiao/itto, ganyu bennett or shenhe, aloy and bennett, ayaka and kokomi(youll need to build crit ayaka), gaming and bennett, yanfei and xingqiu, ningguang and bennett, darksouls beidou and fischl, arlecchino and bennett, ayato and xiangling/bennett, xinyan and bennett, ayaka and rosaria, amber and bennett, klee, diluc, eula, wriothesly, lyney(id save him for the other half of the abyss) and theres prob more that i missed. Now by no means are these the best teams but ive gotten 36 stars using most of these teams with the chiori-zhongli base. so if you started resonantly and found yourself the proud owner of a chiori dont be discouraged and think you made a bad choice by this video.
@blastzd3 ай бұрын
as always vars tierlists blew our minds how stupid it is
@ChatoandGravy4 ай бұрын
Character tier list from a feels crafter? Now that's interesting 🤔
@PizzawurmV14 ай бұрын
Overall a good list, but some things i would change are: -Baizhu should be in niche. For most dendro teams he is never bis because he offers only defensive support (his application is too bad and reaction buff too insignificant). He is only bis in the premium c1 Neuvillette+Furina team and there are a lot better dendeo drivers (Nahida/Alhaitham). -Clorinde and Yae Miko should be in decent. Their damage compared to other dps characters is not very high and they are usually carried or replaced by Fischl. -Nilou should be in excellent for the reasons you mentioned. Her team building restriction is not hindering her pull value, in fact she is one of the most f2p friendly characters. -Klee should be in Average. Her damage is too low and her playstyle too clunky, even in her better teams she can be replaced. -Sigewine should be subpar. She is basically hydro Qiqi. She has basically no application, insignifficant damage and offers nothing but healing. Her synergy with Furina is pointless when their teams are still worse than other Furina teams.
@AlwaysThirstys4 ай бұрын
Don' forget according to tgs calcs zhongli is an upgrade in the neuv team.
@briecarla5564 ай бұрын
I agree with klee. She’s strong with new units and is flexible in multiple pyro teams but learning her cancels puts her lower imo
@ryancorro-sp6gv4 ай бұрын
Actualy, baizhu is onenof the best healers for teams with furina lol, jean competes with kazuha for the anemo slot, same for xianyun, so yeah
@AlwaysThirstys4 ай бұрын
@@ryancorro-sp6gv Problem is all baizhu gives is minimal application and buffing which is comparable to sigewinne's. He is more so on the level of jean where they both provide healing but jeans larger VV buffs are contrasted with biazhu's inter res and more.
@michaelhan22913 ай бұрын
Klee's clunky because of easy animation cancels?
@mariandumitru44693 ай бұрын
Man, I just started my gacha journey 100 days ago with afkj and added hsr, then wuwa, zzz and now that I’m up to date and only on dailies on them I’m interested in starting genshin lmao. No more space on my tablet tho so I will play on ps4😂 this list is something to think about
@anass35014 ай бұрын
nonsense to me, tarta niche and liney excelent, both need bennet xiangling (and anemo but easy to have any for international ) and international is less restricted by having 3 elements, if any element appear it is pretty much ok but if just one pyro ennemy is in a room you are stucked or loosing lot of dps with liney
@b.r.524 ай бұрын
As a Klee Main who equally enjoys Nahida, Furina and Navia, I respect the comments regarding the characters. Being a Klee main for so long, actually taught me to be more patient with DPS usage and character building. So, I am now honestly just sitting on some primogems waiting for Natlan.
@verzetta4 ай бұрын
13:43 Aloy part
@WangerZ32914 ай бұрын
yup
@VrtielA63003 ай бұрын
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@ignorantfoolartur92424 ай бұрын
Both my mains, Diluc and Ayaka, are in the same tier. That's nice (also Cyno)
@holywitch134 ай бұрын
Me, who was carried by Yoimiya since I pulled her in 2.0: interesting
@kutkuy14 ай бұрын
nice tier list 👍👍
@lastorderx200014 ай бұрын
Does he even know what niche means?
@jasonhogan16144 ай бұрын
While you're at it, try his definition of average
@sfgiants39434 ай бұрын
Yeah, the niche category kinda ruined this tier list. He put way too many in there
@alatusedits4 ай бұрын
Real. Xiao is stronger than hu tao at c0 in their best teams, yet he's two tiers under which is wild.@@sfgiants3943
@SaeroneScean4 ай бұрын
Niche means specific. They're good but in particular situations.
@alatusedits4 ай бұрын
He doesn't. Xiao is great in ALL scenarios, unlike Nilou who's only good for AoE. Xiao shouldn't be on the nieche tier
@theeskrungly4 ай бұрын
Remember when people said Clorinde was a worse Arlechinno? Im glad I didnt skip her ❤
@lemonjoyce30184 ай бұрын
I really hope tsaritsa will be able to freeze boss enemies as well. She could impose a thing like zhongli petrified, but it could count as freeze
@GabbsBrea4 ай бұрын
your voice is so smooth I love it
@kurookami28303 ай бұрын
This stupid dude put diluc in decent and xiao in niche when they both use xianyun hahaha
@chi78324 ай бұрын
I hope you also make a 4-star tier list !
@hellofriend27993 ай бұрын
don't let bro cook again
@Tiepo014 ай бұрын
13:43 amazing in depth analysis!
@buttermanaws46934 ай бұрын
Lets see how many wars get started over this
@Otherface4 ай бұрын
One thing for sure: everyone agrees on the Aloy tier.
@tealiussylphide56714 ай бұрын
I feel like niche is not the right way to describe these teams (Nilou in particular). I feel like the word ‘Specialist’ comes to mind, because all her teams can compete with the top teams in the game consistently. While her team building is restrictive, her teams absolutely are not niche or situational: they’re great for all sorts of content (except where there’s Dendro immunity or a cryo shield involved). To me, niche is more describing specific content the team/character excel in, not the specific or restrictive teams they excel in. But that’s more just a reframing of the word niche cause I’ve just seen a lot of people say niche characters aren’t good to invest in because they’re niche, but in reality those characters or teams excel in all the end game content.
@fashlimakarim67574 ай бұрын
I don't think Xianyun is must pull unlike the other top tier in your tier list Yes she's strong, but must pull and build? Idk, maybe Excellent tier? Her buff isn't as universal as Kazuha and Furina. But Baizhu is still top tier even though he's niche character because his dendro reaction dmg amplify is absurd, has a shield and also healing your team at the same time (100% damage boost for dendro core damage and 40% damage boost for quicken is crazy).
@kutkuy14 ай бұрын
Xianyun is too overrated
@fashlimakarim67574 ай бұрын
@@kutkuy1 fr, I know she's strong. But the only thing that she provides is plunge attsck damage bonus. Which isn't that much because not everyone could use it. Neville? Catalyst plunge damage is low Alhaitham? No Arlechinno? Nope Hu tao? CA cancel do more damage because of Vaporize Childe? Heck he can't even do plunge attack
@karantej67023 ай бұрын
@@fashlimakarim6757 alhaitham can do plunge same goes for neuvi i think you dont have xianyun.
@fashlimakarim67573 ай бұрын
@@karantej6702 Yes alhaitham can do plungne attack but sacrificing his constant 3 chisel mirror combo for plunge attack? nah. Also Neuvilette plunge attack? like fr? Do you know that every catalyst character has the least plunge attack damage? Also I have Xianyun and she's only good with Polearm and Claymore character. Most polearm character are playing charged attack so.... The only character that fits with XIanyun are Diluc, Xiao, and maybe eula? but she need constant hit to maximize her burst so yeah... only Diluc and Xiao
@karantej67023 ай бұрын
@@fashlimakarim6757 you are forgetting thats she is healer but still does more also she increases plunge crit rate too I said almost of the dps can plunge. also she can vv shred too, good in openworld.
@arcofhell4 ай бұрын
i think u should make a 5 stars tierlist separated for f2p and low spenders, cuz depending on ur account, a character pull value can vary. For example xiao is arguably one of the worst dps for f2p, but also one of the best dps for low spenders. The criteria for the f2p rankings should be based on: - The account are on assumption that they can't get many 5 star units and weapons - Characters are max at C0R0 - Characters needing niche 4 stars supports are penalized with lower rankings - Characters needing other specific/niche 5 stars units to perform well are penalized with lower rankings - 4 stars teammates and weapons accesibility comes into consideration The criteria for low spenders rankings should be based on: - The account are on assumption that they can get many 5 stars units and weapons and can afford for more vertical investments - Characters are max at C1R1/C2R1 - The account have many niche 4 stars with high constellations
@agiant57154 ай бұрын
I had a similar chat with an irl freind once but we reached an outcome of that not alot of characters suffer from the "low dmg floor, high dmg ceiling" investment problem like your honestly excellent example of xaio. From what I can remember from the top of my head atm are wanderer, chiori, clorinde, wariothesley and ayaka mostly cus either they need c1 to work great or need a 5*/c6 4* support todo dmg other dpses can do at much lower investment. This list i feel isnt a bif enough difference from a normal tierlist to justify a video but I would like if you can share other examples you cam think off.
@arcofhell4 ай бұрын
@@agiant5715 someone i can think of is xianyun. She's more of a situational pull for f2p, not many dpses can work with her and not many dpses perform well/better in a plunge team. As far as i know, the only dpses that can do well with her are xiao, gaming, diluc, hu tao, and navia (but more of a meme team). If an account doesn't have any of those, she's pretty much just a better jean (she can hold ttds)
@AlwaysThirstys4 ай бұрын
@@arcofhell She is just a full team healer that can buff with viredescent and provides plunges as an extra.
@arcofhell4 ай бұрын
@@AlwaysThirstys her plunge is not just an extra, it's her gimmick, her whole identiy, she's the core of plunge teams that makes her greater than jean if it can be utilized. It enables many team, look at how many people unbenching their diluc to play with her. She's somehow universal but at the same time is not.
@AlwaysThirstys4 ай бұрын
@@arcofhell I called it an extra because she is just a jean replacement in a sense. Jean herself is already very good which makes her be pretty universal when used with furina. Her plunges being extra is because not all teams with her need to plunge.
@Pliskplask4 ай бұрын
A friend of mine got huge value from Venti in some of the imaginarium theatre rooms, and I'm really hoping for Venti to make a comeback in swarm heavy rooms in this new gamemode. Would honestly be on par with the Keqing comeback back in 3.X if it were to happen.
@Otherface4 ай бұрын
I'm kinda surprised that Traveler wasn't even considered, but Aloy, a 3* character, at least made a cameo.
@kwayke94 ай бұрын
H*dro tr**eler would be 2 tiers below Aloy (censored because he's that bad)
@Otherface4 ай бұрын
@kwayke9 Ehh... I don't know. I still consider Aloy as the only 3* character. Hydro traveler at least has constellations. But Aloy? If you don't like her kit but want it to be better... well "f*ck you"
@Dia_D_Auth4 ай бұрын
@@OtherfaceC6 hydro traveller is worse than aloy
@VrtielA63003 ай бұрын
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@natewalker97904 ай бұрын
Great List. Only push back would be on Dehya. Only because she made Dragonspine Soooooo much easier to explore with her not being able to die in the Cold and heal herself. I would bump her up one tier just for that.
@pradyumnarout84024 ай бұрын
Eula was done dirty sadge
@NoYuumi4 ай бұрын
He’s not wrong tho Eula isn’t good anymore
@xslite3004 ай бұрын
@@NoYuumithey're probably talking about how mihoyo did her dirty
@VrtielA63003 ай бұрын
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@j.a.martin37344 ай бұрын
Hi! I've been a longtime follower and I've always loved hearing your videos; I am boycotting Hoyo games for the foreseeable future so I'm not going to really watch them anymore, but I wanted to let you know that it has nothing to do with you personally, and I think you do a great job explaining things concerning the characters and mechanics!
@GlowstickX1574 ай бұрын
IN CHILDE’S DEFENSE! Most dps’ got power crept by neuvillette
@peterparker12624 ай бұрын
Feeling daring today aren't we.
@harrygreenhalgh89294 ай бұрын
i feel like nilou shouldnt be considered niche seeing as she is one of the only 5stars who can make an amazing team with exculsivley free characters
@ultimateobsesser4 ай бұрын
I think she's put in niche because her most comfortable position in any team is bloom, yes she utilizes a lot of free characters and there are a lot of options considering dendro and hydro are stacked, but they're still dendro and hydro, and that really is the only place nilou will thrive
@santi32564 ай бұрын
@@ultimateobsesser Like team building is niche but at the same time is not. Like yeah she needs only hydro and dendro but she can use a lot of them there are more than 10 characters no doubt. Insted Xiao for example, what can u use? Fischl, Furina, Bennet, Zhongli, Xianyun, Faruzan, Albedo (not too good of an option tho), Jean with C4 and maybe that's all?. Like everything else u put there is kind troll, maybe some side option like rosaria+diona combo (for 15% crit and diona shielding) or yelan but it's a lot of power lose. Since Nilou's team almost work by only having dendros and hydros u can use almost all of them and the team damage will not vary too much. Furina, kokomi, Ayato, Candace (with a character using bassic attacks to apply hydro like yao yao which is really good here), xingchiu, yelan are all viable hydro applicator, even neuvilette is good cause he heals himself to survive the bloom explosions xd. For dendro u have Kirara, Baizhu, Yao yao, Collei, dendro traveler, Nahida and Kaveh. Idk i feel like Xiao is way more niche if we talk about making a team that can pass the abyss.
@Tam-lv1mp4 ай бұрын
She is Niche in the broadest since of the term because she can only be used with dendro and hydro characters and only functions in one team. She is probably the most niche character in this list but I disagree that the niche tier is placed where it is. It should be more a separate and isolated tier that isnt comparable to the other tiers. What I mean by this is I don't think by any means Diluc, keqing are better than her tartaglia or xiao.
@MrSquishy04 ай бұрын
I think Eula should go in niche with Itto because they have almost the exact same issue in terms of needing supports, their teams perform similar in terms of dps and lets be real, geo is just yellow physical.
@whoknows7894 ай бұрын
you did yoimiya so dirty 😔😭
@darron134 ай бұрын
Appreciating the FFXIV music
@tama27744 ай бұрын
Furina, Neuvillette, Nahida, Kazuha, Zhongli The Generation of Miracles in GI Meta
@kutkuy14 ай бұрын
Zhongli🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮
@VrtielA63003 ай бұрын
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@saimfaisal67954 ай бұрын
I feel you getting more and more confident, and by an extent more accurate, with your lists. I actually really like this. Here's mine (in no order) S- Some of the best. Alhaitham Arlecchino Baizhu Kazuha Furina Nahida Navia Neuvillette Shogun Yelan Zhongli A- Really good at what they do Ayaka Chiori Hu Tao Jean Kokomi Lyney Miko Mona Nilou Shenhe Venti Wriothesley Xianyun Xiao B- Solid choices. Maybe a couple internal problems, but worth your while Ayato Childe Clorinde Diluc Ganyu Tighnari Wanderer C- Mid. Not the best, but not the worst Albedo Cyno Eula Itto Sigewinne Yoimiya D- Not that worth imo. Could be good, but harder to pull off Dehya Keqing Klee Qiqi Traveller (Dendro) F- Not worth Aloy Travellers
@TheJH10154 ай бұрын
I would put Geo Traveler higher especially now with Navia and Chiori who both benefit from a lot of stuff Geo traveler gives (Geo Resonance, Crit Rate buff, Geo application etc)
@saimfaisal67954 ай бұрын
Really? I don't really know the travellers that well, all I know is that they're never the best option@@TheJH1015
@TheJH10154 ай бұрын
@@saimfaisal6795 oh they're absolutely not *the best* option at all, but Geo traveler especially gets kind of slept on. Their only downside is that they limit movement with their constructs. But Geo traveler is pretty useful with Navia and Chiori.
@VrtielA63003 ай бұрын
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@pankace32964 ай бұрын
Bro put Ayaka, Kokomi, Yae, Jean, Ganyu, Tighnari, Cyno, Lyney, Chiori, and fucking AYATO AND WRIOTHESLEY ahead of Nilou, Childe, and Xiao. And Baizhu in top tier?? Baizhu has like one maybe two optimal teams. How the fuck does this channel survive
@kutkuy14 ай бұрын
baizhu is still in top tier long time ago. you don't know because you don't have him and see baizhu's doompost in community too much
@pankace32964 ай бұрын
@@kutkuy1 I do have him. I got him for Neuvillette and Alhaitham teams and then realized there's no reason to use him over Zhongli or Nahida in their teams. He's best in slot for what, Cyno? Lmao. If you're so confident he's top tier and has all these great teams, name one he's best in slot for.
@ednatopg30744 ай бұрын
He said xiao and nilou are top tier niche characters
@pankace32964 ай бұрын
@@ednatopg3074 Yeah, thats my problem. This tier list is so subjective. Baizhu is also a top tier niche character. You could argue the same for someone like Kokomi. Ayaka's best team includes 3 5 stars making it at least as premium as Xiao's.
@lj.6193 ай бұрын
@@ednatopg3074 Nilous nicheness is way less restrictive than xiao though
@bldflop4 ай бұрын
this is completely random and unrelated to the video but... you play ffxiv?? omg you should make ffxiv tier list and ffxiv related content!! would love to support your ffxiv stuff too haha
@stigbroe03034 ай бұрын
I disagree with a lot of things in this tierlist but i like the fact that at least you made it instead of going like "I don't like tierlist, tierlist bad" and stuff like a lot of ccs do, so cheers. Also i think the niche tier is kind of a nuisance and it would be better if you just rank the characters based on how you think they perform in their respective niches, basically like how you were commenting along the way in the video
@tetsuclaw4 ай бұрын
I have been finding good use for my Sigewinne on my acc but I do agree that her pull value for most people is rather low unless you can't resist her cuteness (in a non-creepy way). I do have a c4 Furina and c6 Yae Miko and I managed to get c1 Sigewinne so her buff is even stronger. She isn't useless but if you are in a situation like me she adds a high level of team comfort without punishing my damage too much or at all.
@pitaya_is_cool14084 ай бұрын
Nilou should definitely be above niche, assuming it’s more about having to pull for characters to make them work rather than what characters are available to them in general. There’s plenty of only 4 star teams you can use that can relatively easily clear abyss 12 (dmc/collei/barbara, yaoyao/candace/collei, etc.) and while she is relegated to just dendro and hydro characters, you can still use pretty much any of them as long as you have the proper teammates. You could even argue that she enables more teams than she disables, considering the way her elemental application and damage works to begin with. Also healers are given way too much preference solely based on the fact they enable furina, when they’re kinda mid otherwise (the most flagrant offense in this list being Xianyun). That being said, it’s basically impossible to make a perfectly unilateral list when you consider pull value and dps contribution/general efficacy at the same time (nilou being the biggest indicator of this, I don’t think anyone’s gonna argue she doesn’t still have tier 0 teams), especially when you don’t play certain characters a lot (idk how much you play nilou, but it’s one of those things where you really have to love the playstyle and have a ton of experience to have a complete grasp of her flexibility and damage), but I think you did a very good job for the most part. Tl;DR: niche tier kinda nuked the list, but you still did a good job in spite of that
@NarutoNandaime4 ай бұрын
Chiori is more useful than the niche category, I would say. Sure, her only meta team at C0 is Itto Mono Geo. However, she is definitely not restricted to that alone (or Navia teams). Case in point: I can run Zhongli and Chiori as a Double Geo pair in almost any team and clear the hardest content. I find them particularly useful for Vaporize teams when paired with Yelan and [Insert favorite Pyro DPS here]. Chiori does a TON of off-field Geo damage when her two dolls are active-hence why Zhongli is such a good partner for her since he creates constructs to bring out her true potential. I’ve even run Double Geo Double Hydro or Double Geo Double Pyro and done well. This tag team Geo pair is really slept on imo.
@sara-qy8vc4 ай бұрын
Do part 2 for 4 stars
@lbomb11214 ай бұрын
I think it’s so funny to see the Yoimiya lovers tryna cope. You are perfectly allowed to like the character while also knowing she just isn’t that great to pull for
@jorgetoledo63584 ай бұрын
At this point you should just erase the niche tier, you're using it for the characters that only have one popular or meta team but thats the same case for most of the characters in the game, even the ones that you have on other tiers, for example Alhacen/hyperbloom lyney/monoPyro (Ayaka, Ganyu)/Freeze Diluc/Plunge (Keching, Yae)/Aggravate Cyno/Hyperbloom Hu Tao/ Vape Xianyun/plunge Tignari/Spread. And its the same case for the lower tiers. Also, I think that you're overating Jean, she is decent but she is only usable with Furina and even then she is never the option that you want to use. On mono hydro you better use Kokomi or Siswine as a healer in order to have kazuha for VV and for raiden doble hydro or any other team Xianyun with TTDS will be better even if you don't use any plunges. And Sayu does the exact same job Jean does
@eh03942 ай бұрын
IS THAT MUSIC FROM THE BLACK SHROUD
@wilburforce80464 ай бұрын
“Niche tier” is such a copout for lazy people. You know dang well S tier is based on some imagined restrictive OP meta team core that just gets the pass. Zhong is literally there with Neuv in mind.