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@muhammied Жыл бұрын
ezreal explaining how ezreal is hard to play makes me chuckle😶🌫
@CreatureCM- Жыл бұрын
he's not even remotely hard to play either
@SirArtorias Жыл бұрын
@@CreatureCM- He's easy to play since he has a low skill floor, but his skill ceiling is high and he's impossible to play perfectly.
@oskariilola2819 Жыл бұрын
Aphelios is easily the hardest adc for my opinion even harder to learn than azir without feeding. Only champ who beats those 2 in difficulty is riven.
@muhammied Жыл бұрын
@@oskariilola2819 draven is the hardest by far imo
@oskariilola2819 Жыл бұрын
@@muhammied it took me 4 games to learn draven
@giorgio1826 Жыл бұрын
As an ADC main since season 4 I don't really agree with all the placements. Aphelios requires more effort, for the same reasons of Hwei, while I don't think Kai'Sa is that hard: yep, she has a short range, but she has like 2-3 combos, her trading pattern is really simple (Q+aa or Q+W+aa for all-ins). I would also put cait in hard tier, because she's easy to pick up but hard to master: you need to be able to exploit her range advantage and her mechanics are harder because they revolve a lot around the traps placement.
@aaronblasco5190 Жыл бұрын
This ranking is skill floor based, not skill ceiling
@hero55555f Жыл бұрын
I personally dont get how Jhin is hard to pick up, legit half of my friends have Jhin as pick if they get autofilled to adc
@Faber117 Жыл бұрын
@@hero55555f He aint hard, the best kiting + CC + dmg so hes the best to fill
@crisnmaryfam7344 Жыл бұрын
gotta remember this is all from one (or maybe even more) persons point of view, you may be better or worse with a particular champs kit and thus is feels more natural to you and easier to pick up, Some find irelia hard, some easy. Most however agree shes designed for a more experienced player.
@Yokai_Yuri Жыл бұрын
Cait? the champ with the longest aa in the game, low mana cost for her abilities, point and click super long ranged ult. Has a get away mechanic that slows the enemies that hit and empowers your next A.A. She can also put traps that last forever. That cait is hard to use and master?
@theemsho10339 ай бұрын
Never saw a good Yasuo with only 25 Games.
@Mepho51755 ай бұрын
You could stop your sentence with "Never sawa good yasuo"
@shingekinokfc89265 ай бұрын
There is a reason there is saying " there is always a feeding Yasuo" cuz that champ is hard. I don't play anymore but during my 9 years of playing on my free time I played Azir, Zed, Lee sin, Thresh, Yasuo... Even when I got mastery 7 on Yasuo I still sucked, it took me at least a year on free time while I was doing school to get used to actually play Yasuo and not be busy focusing how to dash properly on a fight. You literally need to think +10 moves ahead in an instant during a fight while dashing/AA in the right angle and execute the right combo for the right situation with finger muscle memory. To look anything close to PZZANG (the goat) at least +3 years or more of experience.
@DelsinekАй бұрын
Never saw a good yas with 1000 games nor 10000
@Lacerationlol Жыл бұрын
when making a tier list on difficulty you either rank by skill floor which is what you did or skill ceiling. skill floor is how long it takes to average a 50% winrate on certain picks(which indicates moderate proficiency) , skill ceiling is how hard it is to master them to the point where you can play every aspect of the champion perfectly everygame. For example champions like Zed, irelia, yasuo have skill ceilings so high it's practically unattainable to reach perfect play on those champions. You should change the title to specify this list is about hard hard it is to pick up these champs not master them.
@xctkillaprodigyx2586 Жыл бұрын
Oh shit what's up laceration? When you going to drop a new vid man I been missing your content. Im finally enjoying Zed again this season and feel like hes somewhat getting back to his former glory. Hope to see some stuff from you soon bro. Much respect!
@AsirIset Жыл бұрын
Very much agreed. Quite useless list honestly. Although Zed isn't actually that hard at all comared to Ire and Yas. Honestly he has very straightforward playstyle with some harder combos you would use less frequently
@Zedthality11 ай бұрын
drop new videos broooo
@gryphonschnitzel71408 ай бұрын
Katarina has the highest skill ceiling in game.
@deauriba5292 Жыл бұрын
Okay so this may be a hot take, but i don't find hwei that hard. He is mecanically demanding, but his game plan is really simple and so is his laning phase: you just perma push with rumble's R, do not has mana problem bc of his e. His mana management is way better than the average mage, and you can spam spells on cs or oppo. From the start of the game he can lane bully really hard thanks to all of those things, and whith R, bite and bolt has significant kill pressure. His teamfights aren't hard, easier than most mages imo (except for the mecanics required). I started playing him and have better results than char like anivia that i play for a longer time. Even in the mu against assassins which are supposed to be hard there isn't much trouble, bc you have the constant wave pressure and with their poor wave clear they can't do anything, if they roam they loose tons of cs, even if they all-in you just fear them and out damage them. The only mu that i find hard are zed, fiz (permaban) and xerath bc of range
@yuzu8059 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I would also add Irelia to champions I personally struggle against as Hwei. He is unique but once you get the grasp of him, he is a very reliable pick at least for me. Positioning is key I would say since his abilities have different range and ult was hard to land before recent buff, now he is kinda easy for me. Insane poke in lane and sustain from we, also nice tempo due to wq, easy to dodge ganks with using qe wq and e that fits the situation the most.
@chriswilliamson9993 Жыл бұрын
If he's so easy then why is his win rate so low? IMHO, there are several things that make him hard. Firstly, his early game cooldowns are really long, and good opponents will punish those. Engages and ganks will be timed for when both his Q and E are on cooldown, and he needs to deal with that. Secondly, whilst it's easy to select the right spells to use in normal situations, correctly picking the right spells to use and not panicking in chaotic team fights with all sorts of stuff happening around him is pretty damn hard. His success is also massively dependent on hitting his ultimate, and correctly landing that skill short probably has more impact on the outcome of a team fight than almost any other skill in the game (possible exceptions - Rumble and Orianna R).
@eebbaa5560 Жыл бұрын
@@chriswilliamson9993his winrate is low because he sucks hope this helps
@nogamenolife7407 Жыл бұрын
Easy af to dodge all his spells he sucks that bite is so easy to dodge
@0hmeg4 Жыл бұрын
@@eebbaa5560 Ah yes the classic "It's the champion that's bad, not me". Let me guess, it's also your teamates fault you're hardstuck iron?
@firestorm8265 Жыл бұрын
Me seeing ezreal in Expert but not Aphelios.
@fatum857311 ай бұрын
Only braindeads thinks what Aphelios is hard 🗿 Just read his skills and autos
@ZMJJKK-t4i9 ай бұрын
yes i agree ezreals skillset is higher than aphelios. The only thing aphelios is hard at is to get in to, rest is easy af
@alexandergotesson79219 ай бұрын
@@ZMJJKK-t4i Aphelios is actually harder than ppl think he is tbh he is alot squishier than other champs and its hard to use ur weapons well but he def is easier than ez
@hyytuy9 ай бұрын
Aphelios is just use your Q then auto attack nothing to dificult, funny to see people saying that champs that have Q W E R less dificult than Q R from aphelios
@user-qb5pq2yb3o9 ай бұрын
Came to comments just to see if someone said this 💯 even draven or vayne seem too low tbh
@Crescendobro Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that Draven deserves to be in the Expert tier too, getting used to his Q mini game is really tricky especially since you need to learn to manage axes properly without throwing yourself into an unfavourable position and getting caught by like a Blitz hook or a WW ult
@ruven782 Жыл бұрын
Draven axes gets really easy if you stop thinking about it. It was designed to land where ure going
@greenstrawberrygaming11 ай бұрын
ive played about 3/4 games with draven and i dont find it hard at all sure i miss a couple of axes but it isn't that tricky
@Crescendobro11 ай бұрын
@@greenstrawberrygaming its not hard at the start, when it gets hard is micromanaging a triple axe juggle while activating W to maintain move/attack speed while deciding when u can snag an axe or if it would put u in a position to eat a fight losing CC like Blitz Q, Morg Q, Naut Q, Leo E, Etc…
@deividasrunca359611 ай бұрын
I disagree with draven its no so easy at all you need just good reaction. To be honest for me Lucian is even harder
@ruven78211 ай бұрын
@@deividasrunca3596 it becomes hard if you try to control them.. if you just walk itll usually do its job by itself when kiting
@rivencarriedu5690 Жыл бұрын
i almost spilled my drink when i saw Ksante in Expert and Fiora in Hard.
@BPFACTS885 ай бұрын
some of these placements are a joke. Jayce also in expert lol
@BrownGoatEnthusiast5 ай бұрын
K'sante is one of the highest skill floor champs, as shown by his wr
@BPFACTS885 ай бұрын
@@BrownGoatEnthusiast for sure but Fiora has the highest skill ceiling in the game, maybe next to gp and riven
@BrownGoatEnthusiast5 ай бұрын
@BPFACTS88 yes, champs like yas, gangplank, fiora, and even K'sante have never truly been played to their maximum potential.
@_zero88 Жыл бұрын
i main hwei and i can say with confidence that azir is leagues above hwei in difficulty
@Milchschnitzel7 ай бұрын
Yes i maen for hwei you just kinda remeber 12 abilitys and at azir its another thing(shuffle bb)
@_zero887 ай бұрын
@@Milchschnitzel azir kit is simpler and hwei well is hwei , the problem is how you apply those abilities and when , hwei is much more forgiving if u make a bad decision azir is not , use ur E wrong or Q on cd ur dead . if its about how creative u can get with a champion id say shaco is the toughest one , ur only limited by , well , you .
@30socks56 Жыл бұрын
Another thing that's incredible simple to do as Heimer support is ruining the state of the minion wave. I have yet to play alongside a Heimer support that didn't force you to be constantly pushing unless you want him to get all the CS. He may be easy to pick up, but to use him effectively, I'd say a some experience is required...
@dripszn673210 ай бұрын
This is about picking up the champion so he is easy but hard to actually master
@hptr8 ай бұрын
This is one of the main reasons why heimerdinger support should not be in the easy tier imo
@layanmorningstar Жыл бұрын
Mostly agree but... I would say that so many champions have so many cute little tricks and secrets that make them pop off, like a Sion for instance. You can have 100 games of Sion and still not play him like the baus. Even the simple champions can require many many games for you to play them well. But nice video!
@georgeromain2274 Жыл бұрын
the bausffs skills is not related to the champ at all, he just completely masters the wave management and completely understand how bountys and splitpushing works
@vinaayagamkarunagaran3439 Жыл бұрын
@@georgeromain2274 although i agree with this, what he said is true to an extend too, you can see how much a player knows the champion based on little things even if its a simple champion, like auto W R animation cancel on Renekton or E flash on Urgot kinda shows how much that player is trying to take advantage of the champion's kit
@layanmorningstar Жыл бұрын
@@georgeromain2274 I agree with you, his skill on other areas of the game -definitely- help him shine, though I still think that knowing how to play your champion is still important. There are so many pixels he uses to Q out of vision, saving his W AFTER he has taken damage, using E right before dying so people is slowed for the passive, using ult to ignore CC, there are SO many little interactions that you can only learn with 100+ games that will make a sion completely take over a game, compared to "just an average tank"
@layanmorningstar Жыл бұрын
@@vinaayagamkarunagaran3439 Exactly. There are so many pixels he uses to Q out of vision, saving his W AFTER he has taken damage, using E right before dying so people is slowed for the passive, usin Q + R + Q to ignore Sion camera displacement on the ult... So many tricks, that turn sion from a tank to an actual beast xD
@foximou Жыл бұрын
I think we should see this more as skillfloor than skillceiling.
@kakashilegend8262 Жыл бұрын
hwei difficulty is hella overrated
@Tr1niTtyy9 ай бұрын
true
@Anton-n4n5n8 ай бұрын
Yeah he is 100% not as hard as people say, you have your basic abilities for fights and after five games you know what you are doing you don't have to watch that much stuff
@madeinheaven12348 ай бұрын
@@Anton-n4n5nyeah but hwei just isnt strong maybe thats why but in general if they would put some buffs in for hwei he would be alot easier
@hnice58 ай бұрын
@@madeinheaven1234 As a Hwei main, he is INSANELY BROKEN. And he does have hard stuff such as EQ+QW (practically a quadruple-cast) and not spamming WE
@zen58828 ай бұрын
@@hnice5 What's the point of EQ and WQ? Why not just EE at that point
@sonnenblume4 Жыл бұрын
shaco support mention, nice. The hardest part about the pick is your allies flaming you when you pick it. And then they never respect your champ's cooldowns or set ups. But when they actually do play with the boxes or bait people into your set ups it's so rewarding. Having a lot of fun this season controlling objectives with shaco support.
@chriswilliamson9993 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen Shaco support getting flamed. However, in my experience, if you pick Seraphine bot lane in low ELO, then you have more than a 50% chance of your support flaming you before minion waves crash - and that's despite her averaging a 53% win rate in the role.
@sonnenblume4 Жыл бұрын
@@chriswilliamson9993 high win rate but low pick rate. i outdmg sera adcs on support shaco every time so idk, i personally don't like it because most of the time mid is ap, i'm ap if on main but most supports are ap. We need a solid ad for a good comp. i'd rather have a lethality adc right now than a a sera but its personal taste. especially with all the mr items that were added in the game, playing 3 ap champs is very bad. of course you can pick it only when your team goes ad mid ad jg ad top but most of the time you gotta first pick adc/support so mid and top get last pick so its hard if nobody hovers.
@chriswilliamson9993 Жыл бұрын
@@sonnenblume4 It's not that unusual for a team to show a whole load of AD champions in select. Last season I'd pick Ziggs to fill that hole, but the new items don't suit Ziggs, and his win rate has plummeted. Sera is a much better choice for that niche.
@eebbaa5560 Жыл бұрын
if you pick shaco anything you deserve to get flamed
@sonnenblume4 Жыл бұрын
@@eebbaa5560 hater 🥰
@alexanderassigal1384 Жыл бұрын
The basic viego kit is simple but to use the abilities of your enemies efficiently you gotta learn alot of champs. You could say he has an infinite skill sealing because you won't be able to master every champ to its maximum potential.
@Tobias_THFC Жыл бұрын
In theory yes but you literally just click all their buttons and ult again in practice and go back to statchecking with your big sword
@giovanni9682 Жыл бұрын
or you just learn to master one champ and pick Viego only against him hehe
@zuiplap040 Жыл бұрын
what an absolute bullshit xd
@risy95 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the skill ceiling of champions weren't on focus here, it's about the skill floor. I main Zyra, she has a pretty low skill floor as I see a lot of people succeeding with her in low elo. But at the same time even high elo players may not use her plants optimally.
@craftinteemo7055 Жыл бұрын
The biggest pitfall as viego is accidentally taking the soul of someone with terrible items and getting one shot the second you're able to be hit lol.
@Accelerant216 Жыл бұрын
aint no way qiyana isnt 50+
@blipbloup7168 Жыл бұрын
fr bro no way qiyanna is as hard as ziggs
@Accelerant216 Жыл бұрын
@@blipbloup7168 fr the mechanics u need for that champ are no joke, especially with how weak she is late game
@NewaZusa Жыл бұрын
Sona is also as hard as Zyra and Heimer is as braindead as a Yuumi. 💀💀💀
@gabimarius772 Жыл бұрын
the only reason to watch this channel's videos are to literally see how braindead and bad their takes are every damn video.
@pyrefly7575 Жыл бұрын
This list is total bullsht
@thareap3r93 Жыл бұрын
I mostly agree, but I think Blitzcrank is actually way easier if you have general game knowledge. You have pressure by just standing in range of your Q, you dont even need to hit anything, you simply have to exist in a place where enemies can be scared of your hook
@tera4408 Жыл бұрын
U know what a skill floor tier list is right
@h4jk3rn2 күн бұрын
Shaco main Support player here and I think it took me about five minutes into my first game trying him as a Support, for me to fall in love with his kit and his playstyle, I used to play a mix of Blitzcrank, Alistar, Morgana, Zilean and Soraka, but ever since I picked up Shaco, I haven't played a single game with a different champ and I'm about 200+ games in since then.
@SumThingFawful Жыл бұрын
Got wipelash seening Asol as easy. Remember when Asol had the worst learning curve in the entire game.
@Pyngpong_ Жыл бұрын
nah u coping
@gjenkn9 Жыл бұрын
@@Pyngpong_ old asol with the rotating orbs
@Pyngpong_ Жыл бұрын
@@gjenkn9 ye I missread that
@mr.joesterr53599 ай бұрын
new asol isnt easy. He is a pure macro champ where you have to have amazing spacing and fundamentals to see any success on him
@Pyngpong_9 ай бұрын
@@mr.joesterr5359 nah he is easy to play because litteraly every other champ that are similar have to play macro a lot more effectively while not having the privilege of infinite scaling, insane waveclear and a braindead safety tool (i.e azir,anivia,...)
@drewtw98 Жыл бұрын
Hwei is honestly not that hard. After 5 games you get used to where all his abilities are and he's just a standard mage at that point. Orianna, zed, qiyana are all harder imo
@ziggs123 Жыл бұрын
Zed😂
@jollygoodgaming2296 Жыл бұрын
hwei is braindead not hard in the slightest
@drewtw98 Жыл бұрын
@@ziggs123 playing zed at a mediocre level isn't too hard but he's one of the higher skill capped champs, no?
@sirhellsing9 ай бұрын
@@ziggs123 When I started lol, he just felt that hard since I need to execute my combo very quick with everything being a skillshot, I'm horrible at skillshots
@aguauga9 ай бұрын
As someone who plays Swain and Hwei mid, Swain should be considered medium (e and w can be quite tricky). And Hwei should be in hard instead of expert, his huge ability pool gives him a lot of options without being a headache after some games
@vini-ix8yt13 күн бұрын
Velkoz expert tier lmao. I literally started random playing him and climbed out of bronze into gold with him.
@avocadodealer6291 Жыл бұрын
yone in hard tier? yone..?
@_ramiks_07096 ай бұрын
True. Medium is the highest tier for him
@NotSoSocialBorys Жыл бұрын
Imo Lux on mid deserves to be easy tier, just hit q at least 50% of the times. Q + e + r takes 50%+ of enemy hp usually. E has huge hitbox Q might be a bit more difficult to hit, but still easy And r is just r...interstellar beam that has almost no cooldown, huge range and is easy to hit There is a reason as to why they offer you Lux as one of the picks in tutorial
@ziphrox11 ай бұрын
whole lotta yap
@NotSoSocialBorys11 ай бұрын
@@ziphrox or just good arguments
@harshabhigyan9289 ай бұрын
Exactly. Cant get any easier. U dont even need wave management you have your ult. Positioning doesnt matter cuz u can stay out of the screen all the time. Its the same level as Annie. Atleast Annie has to get close
@antistraightmen8 ай бұрын
@@NotSoSocialBorys bad arguments, she has 4 skillshots and is easily countered, her difficulty comes from positioning and managing enemy cds.
@antistraightmen8 ай бұрын
@@harshabhigyan928 yeah and annie has a farming tool and better defence against everything
@ericli5549 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Ahri and Syndra are more of 10-25 or even less, they are similar to Lux or Ori. Qiyana and Irelia are way harder to play.
@amitsraier852 Жыл бұрын
saying that yasuo is easier than jayce is WILD
@aaronblasco5190 Жыл бұрын
Yasuo itemization is kinda the same for almost every match-up for the first 3 items, + you always buy boots first, so you just need to know how the passive, W, Q and E works science R is really easy to underestand. Also underestand that he scales harder as the game goes on and only need 2 items to dont care about being behind anymore
@LickMyBox66665 ай бұрын
Jayce is GP level difficulty. Yasuo is anime looser baby difficulty
@ElReyDeNoche Жыл бұрын
I'm confused on how Xerath got placed in the hard tier. He's one of the less interactive champs in the game similar to Ziggs.
@criticalrevel Жыл бұрын
All of their abilities ALL are skillshots, which means that if u dont land then u DONT deal damage no matter how fed u are. U can be fed af in a game but miss all your skillshots in a tf and suddenly u are worth less. And they do also as most champs have clear exploitable weaknesses (Hard engage cc)
@guzvar Жыл бұрын
@@criticalrevel I've been maining Xerath support and mid, yes his kit is all skillshots but they are not hard to land at all, maybe the ult but no way you need 50+ games to master it, also his passive makes missing some skillshots more forgiving
@ElReyDeNoche Жыл бұрын
@criticalrevel I recently played Ziggs. As long as you have a brain you can legit just Stomp games through poke and farming. Both can AFK farm and hard engage counters any immobile camp many with less Range and safety than Xerath or Ziggs. Skills hots are not the biggest deciding factor. That's why I pointed out both can be highly uninteractive in lane.
@Aschuff229 ай бұрын
@@guzvaryou probably aren’t a very high rank to be honest. Xerath abilities are so easy to dodge is almost comical. It’s actually one of my favorite champs to lane against, because you buy boots, and watch as he drains all his mana either trying to poke you but miss, or just farms and leaves you alone and is basically a walking 300 gold for assassin mids/ jgs
@tommyhoskins43429 ай бұрын
Hwei is SO easy lmao what
@pugify5879 ай бұрын
I can’t tell if ur lying
@phqnomenon7 ай бұрын
i played her first time in aram without having read the skills descriptions and after about 20 minutes i understood the champ quite intuitively. i'd say 25 games for getting good with hwei is appropriate?
@Dreams2T Жыл бұрын
qiyana's one of the hardest to pick up tho
@ziggs123 Жыл бұрын
Overrated
@2prominent Жыл бұрын
read the abilitys and know how to hit vayne's E and you're good to go
@peashootar Жыл бұрын
bro really put himself in expert
@TheGamer-pt9cy Жыл бұрын
I love how they put yasuo in 25-50 games required
@DamianSlayr11 ай бұрын
9:23 "No other adc has a reload mechanic" Ahem, Graves?
@PAULvst8 ай бұрын
what part of an adc havent u understood yet?
@DamianSlayr8 ай бұрын
@@PAULvst Almost as if he's an attack damage carry and scales off crit. Dumɓàss.
@elohitman60267 ай бұрын
@@DamianSlayr so is yone. I guess yone is an adc.
@DamianSlayr7 ай бұрын
@@elohitman6026 That is exactly what I just said yeah
@nathanjonns3626 Жыл бұрын
I was watching the old video for this lately. Fantastic timing!
@LevelForge Жыл бұрын
Ziggs is literally first timeable tho like yes he has skill shots but even after 100 games u won’t hit every and u don’t need to since he is very forgiving cause he has such low cds and most of time only spams the abbiltys onto the wave
@skoooter2 Жыл бұрын
Back when I was bronze, I played Velkoz supp as autofill. It was quite good.
@philipposmalliaris4623 Жыл бұрын
it still is good
@chriswilliamson9993 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my time in Bronze shortly after the Gangplank rework. I used to play him top lane without the slightest clue as to his real potential. No one had even heard of a triple barrel back then. As for Vel'koz, playing him well is, IMHO, one of the hardest things in the game. Not only does he have quite unique skill shots, but the ability to early cancel his Q brings him to a whole new level - getting the time consistently right on early Q cancels in order to hit people behind minions is exceptionally hard.
@philipposmalliaris4623 Жыл бұрын
@@chriswilliamson9993 play velkoz with malignance, shadowflame, rabadons. Mid. Unless you are against an assasin like fizz you will have a blast dealing huge amounts of dmg.
@falcoatilla3620 Жыл бұрын
vel'koz is one of the hardest champs in the game, especially on midlane
@philipposmalliaris4623 Жыл бұрын
@@falcoatilla3620 I think having m7 on him, I know how hard velkoz is.
@pfft57958 ай бұрын
There are 3 ADC champions who deserve to be in Expert difficulty - Kalista, Aphelios, Draven and that's it. Kalista was explained in the video, Aphelios has one of the most confusing kits for a beginner and trying to manage Draven's axes during fights is one of the hardest things to do as one mistake could literally cost you an entire fight. Ezreal? I mean I get that you're biased, but this is arguably one of the safest ADCs which gives you more breathing room to get used to it, there aren't many things you need to keep in mind when playing him, I'd feel safer if I had a first time Ezreal on my team than I would with a first time Kalista,Draven or Aphelios which kind of contradicts your "first time test" theory. Kalista and Draven are oddly similar in the sense where you're basically forced to move around if you want to be even slightly useful and it's very easy to get into a bad situation.
@mvh-11 ай бұрын
I’ve been trying to pick up ezreal recently as a very new player, I only play bot lane. For me kiting and positioning is super hard so far but the skill shots aren’t so hard, I think it’s because I can pretty freely hit new players that don’t really sidestep etc. I’ve been having loads of fun on him and can’t wait to get even better. He has ironically been my most successful adc so far. I’m used to Jinx, Jhin and MF. And also am finding a lot of success on them more so jhin than the others
@aetarz2 ай бұрын
Garen has been the go to for my friends who stared a month or so after me if they want to play top hes simple enough were they dont need to worry too much about the character and can focus on learning other aspects of the game whilst having impact
@peterozx Жыл бұрын
Seeing Quinn in easy tier is an instant end of watching the video. Considering the fact that you need to play around harrier procs, space correctly, and a lot more. You literally put her and Garen in the same tier, like cmon
@titoluizpereira6281 Жыл бұрын
And unlike most top champions, any Quinn's mistake is very punishable. There's so little room for mistakes with her, you misscalculated an E or miss a Q and you die.
@JohnSmith-zp8pn Жыл бұрын
ok buddy, quinn is braindead easy, quit coping, ur just bad
@dragonteam4208 Жыл бұрын
YONE HARD CHAMP SURE IS SO HARD TO PRES E AND START BEATING YOUR LANER
@CreatureCM- Жыл бұрын
Seeing Jayce on expert for top lane on this list kind of made the opinions useless
@НавьСВ6 ай бұрын
U play it jayce?
@sprinklesandtrumpettoots715111 ай бұрын
As a Blitzcrank main, it's nice to see them in a higher tier when most of the community seems to see them as a beginner champ. Sure, Blitzcrank is mechanically pretty simple, but also very punishing if played sloppily. You have negative lane pressure if you miss your hooks and the self slow on W can get you in serious trouble. Plus knowing when to ult immediately vs when to hold it for the extra dps. And don't get me started on hooking the wrong champ at the wrong time. Nothing feels worse than when your adc dies and it's all your fault.
@petercserkuthy3292 Жыл бұрын
I am missing irelia and gangplank from the mid expert tier, I think irelia is so damn hard mechanically ( specially if you want perfect aa cancel with all the spells and movement ) , and for gangplank mid, it is hard to play vs mages, dodging and timing barrels make or break the matchup.
@nimrodszocs2795 Жыл бұрын
gp mid vs mages is about the same as any ranged matchup top. They only put it lower bc gp is weaker early and mid is a bit safer for that, ither than that it’s the same. It’s just a bit more forgiving
@petercserkuthy3292 Жыл бұрын
Nah top is easyer, more melee matchup, and mid gets ganked more, and gp has no mobility so it is way harder( at least for me, i hate to ply gp to ranged matchups thoo) and as a fun fact, you are a sitting duck on mid, because you dont want to roam a lot, to get to lvl13 as fast as possible, but he is pretty good vs yone yasuo and other melee champs
@criticalrevel Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah its so hard pressing Q key and then right click a target to 100 - 0 a target or at least blow summs ... Ppl whining bout irelia being hard ... The même xd
@petercserkuthy3292 Жыл бұрын
@@criticalrevel I think you misunderstood, In Irelias case ( and gp also) starting to play the champions is not the hard part, it’s pretty easy. As Irelia you can get away with that, until you reach a certain level. Then, people will not let you do that. The hard part of Irelia is to reach 100% dps consistently with aa cancells, to trad on a low hp caster, q execute the caster you aa the enemy and then q out and you will have to do it as fast, that the enemy doesn’t hit you back ( for example,as gp it is timing constantly, to hit the barrels when it has 2 health and it ll reach 1 when your aa gets there) and you can play gp as ok flash basic q on the adc in late game and delete her, but that is far away from what is the max potential of the champ. I advise you to watch an Irelking clip and see what it looks like when played on a high level .
@AbcDef-nd3gk Жыл бұрын
I mean if my adc says he is autofilled, i would tell him to pick ezreal. They wont get 100% out of him, but they will still play easily at least decent. Everyone who played league of a while, no matter what lane, can play ezreal. Its just skillshots. Legit a no brain champion, just need aim. Zeri is a entire new playstyle you have to get used too. Kalista too. Draven too. Aphelios too. This should be expert tier. i would put ezreal at medium. He needs some mechanical skill, but literlly 0 knowledge. Vayne is way harder and has not an entire new playstyle like the other i named, but still, using her ult, understanding you invisibility and using it to the fullest at stressed situations, is way harder.
@ziggs123 Жыл бұрын
Agree. Champs like Kalista/Draven are probably the hardest adc floor and ceiling
@TheOzumat Жыл бұрын
You are what tanks the champ's win rate.
@ezrealislife8694 Жыл бұрын
Only ppl who have no idea how Ezreal works will say something like this😂
@Jonkronn9 ай бұрын
I still remember back when Cassiopeia was pretty much the unanimous hardest champion. Then ones like Orianna and Anivia were close behind
@AmberSweetPea Жыл бұрын
Really disagree with mid. Hwei shouldn't remove a whole hoard of champs from the 50+ category when that's where they 150% belong. If anything make a special category or mention for him, but lying about a handful of champ being 25-50 when they're 1000% 50+, just because the new champ is harder to you, is wrong imo. I also don't think Hwei is as hard as people think he is. Aphelios is way harder to manage as his guns each do something completely different, come with a different ability, and different ult interaction. Hwei has three category of spells...all the spells inside that category are related to each other n terms of purpose and the icons are VERY clear and helpful in reminding you what his abilities do. And then Ez in 50+? Lololol
@choubatsu58605 ай бұрын
id say trundle is easy to get a "baseline" output from easily. however your pillar really takes work. stopping zac or lee sin jumps with it takes a bit more practice
@Jellypeño611 ай бұрын
After playing the new season for 2 months i can confidently say that hwei does not belong in expert-tier. He might have 10 abilities but its not like he has any hard to execute combos like jayce or azir. instead you press q-e on the wave. and a couple of seconds later you do the same thing again. Get minion demat and you will pretty much oneshot the wave at lvl 8/9. Being able to get prio against champs like zoe (who is one of the strongest early game mages) in the early game should just not be a thing. zoe, azir, ryze are just a couple of examples that are 100% harder to execute than this bs champion. Champ has basically everything you would want from a control mage. CC, zone control, high dmg, high range, utility and even free mana sustain.
@_ramiks_07096 ай бұрын
Azir, Talia, Le Blanc>>>>>>>Hwei In my opinion Azir and Talia is 2 the most difficult characters in the game, just because of balance. You can do the best combo in your life and do less damage than some AP Malphite that just one shot you with 25 sec cooldown ult. For Adc: I can't believe my eyes... Jinx - one of the most bad balanced characters. If your support doing shit, you can never carry the game. Others adc can. Start for Jinx - is the most difficult part of the game
@MrBodeci Жыл бұрын
just wondering who the one trick is there that plays Udyr and wanted him as high tier and not easy tier.
@ayouneii365911 ай бұрын
I'd hate to see a first time Kayle in my ranked games, it's not that the kit is hard, it's just a whole different way of approaching the game and it requires quite a strong mental because the champ has so little agency (and it tilts your allies to oblivion when you can't roam in the enemy jungle to invade with them at level 3 against a lane bully, for some reason)
@notlisztening98219 ай бұрын
I disagree with hwei being so difficult. I don't think you actually tried that champ. You really get a feel for his abilities quickly and can commit them to muscle memory with 10-20 games. His problem is, that his damage output falls off rather hard late, so it's difficult to have an impact even if you are ahead. Champs like Zed and kata aren't less mechanically complex and they have no cc. You need much more macro knowledge to pull them off and if you fall behind you have no utility/cc to help you stay relevant.
@Theo-ev6yu Жыл бұрын
As a level 7 bird watcher, I am shocked that Quinn is considered an easy top laner. One mistake in the entire laning phase can easily mean being behind the enemy top laner for the rest of the game.
@semerkosa Жыл бұрын
Wdym bro... You mainly face melee bruisers/tanks and easily shut their engage with an E + Q. One mistake on any champ can throw your lane, so that's a bad argument.
@user-jz1hx6qp2o Жыл бұрын
How tf is ezreal harder than Draven. Draven literally has no escape if you misplay, less range, a mechanic unique to him which makes him more predictable and add to that is generally harder to position with in teamfights because you dont have a free blink.
@ziphrox11 ай бұрын
womp womp
@Remyueru5 ай бұрын
Maokai easy tier for top jungle and support lol. That click to stun is OP lol.
@prvsgen42349 ай бұрын
NAH aint no way aphelios isnt in expert tier and people underestimate how high caits skill ceiling is why do you think gumayushi spams her. the difference between a good cait and an expert cait is night and day she gotta be minimum hard tier
@lzy88999 Жыл бұрын
How is Ashe in the same tier as Miss Fortune? She's one of the hardest ADCs to deal damage with and in terms of power her ult is not comparable to MF's at all
@The_oli4 Жыл бұрын
yea true ashe ult is way stronger and just is a free kill on her ult cd
@ljames9772 Жыл бұрын
@@The_oli4facts. Plus her perma slowing which basically makes kiting the equivalent of riding a bicycle with training wheels.
@Tobias_THFC Жыл бұрын
Lol
@andrewg6057 Жыл бұрын
Hey, have you guys thought about making some Wild Rift content? I love casually watching LoL pro play, though most of my gameplay is on Wild Rift. I really love your content and would really appreciate some WR stuff
@Phallen69 Жыл бұрын
if this dude sneaks in a "who needs a map" i'll sub ;p
@Ignaz40857 ай бұрын
thresh should be in a hard difficulty, because its a first support that I have played and it wasn't that hard learning him, but some new videos about thresh still suprised me with new mechanics earlier
@risy95 Жыл бұрын
When Hwei came out I decided to learn him. I played at least 20 arena games got better and better. I won a lot on SR, but I still forget to use some skills and it's funny when I panic and press buttons in the wrong order. :D For me he's as hard as Aphelios, because I'm more confident with mages.
@eebbaa5560 Жыл бұрын
he’s way easier than aphelios it’s not even a comparison
@risy95 Жыл бұрын
@@eebbaa5560 Skill floor or skill ceiling?
@eebbaa5560 Жыл бұрын
@@risy95 both. skill ceiling might be comparable but he’s actually a deceptively simple champion. there are some mechanical requirements but nothing nearly as hard as playing an adc, especially one as involved as aphelios. hwei’s skill floor is actually super low; he has 10 abilities but they’re all pretty straightforward. the hardest thing about him is having both the situational awareness and the apm to play him in teamfights, but even then, he’s still easier than aphelios.
@risy95 Жыл бұрын
@@eebbaa5560 I agree on player skill. But the video also seem to calculate champion knowledge. On the long run Hwei is much easier than Aphelios, but not at the moment for me. You can play Aphelios like any adcs. Obviously not good, but you may beat worse players. If an average player plays Hwei without any knowledge, he will be useless. Only from this viewpoint, Hwei is the hardest and most confusing champ.
@FantasticKruH Жыл бұрын
@@eebbaa5560exactly, hwei is actually super simple with no unique tricks, no difficult combos. All of his spells are pretty straightforward.
@shtumfin11 ай бұрын
When it comes to Hwei its not really that difficult to memorize the abilities, the difficult part is mana managment and knowing what ability is the most useful in certain situations. Its very easy to missclick or accidentally use the wrong ability and its very punishing in 1v1s, especially since his R is easy to miss for newer players
@levox746 Жыл бұрын
Shaco belongs in the expert tier. Beeing the only Champion that can build anything for specific situations is a feat that you have to learn for a very long time. Nidalee is definently easier to improve on than him and I main both of them arround mid to high dia.
@jmm947 Жыл бұрын
i think this scuffed list is mostly just referring to skill floor
@MrCornholio18124 ай бұрын
Nilah, Draven and Aphelios are way harder than Kalista, Kalista just needs the click and move mechanic but it is not conditional like Draven, Draven has same mechanic but depends on not missing an axe to deal damage
@starr68489 ай бұрын
Aphelios not being expert tier is criminal
@tbone94747 ай бұрын
As a hwei main, i dont agree he's harder or even as hard as azir. Azir has a lot more combos and split second inputs required. I put hwei in mid range hard tier
@AkhilRamalingam Жыл бұрын
briar being on hard seems crazy but the average game sense makes it understandable
@adambartone9193 Жыл бұрын
Dude yeah I was really surprised by that.
@Ranked_Journey2 ай бұрын
Could use a meta agnostic version of this video. At least a season 15 video next year.
@danielkovacs50617 ай бұрын
Riven: -Minimum games required 50+ My 2nd game with her: A-
@twilightflux6287 Жыл бұрын
Qiyana should be of a higher difficulty in mid lane, possibly in Expert tier and I'd argue Zeri too. Qiyana's combos need to be fast not to mention knowing where to click to get the element with her W, and with Zeri, I'll gladly say that she is the most skillshot reliant ADC not to mention Riot completely made her ultimate punishing if one runs out of that super charged state
@augustindurocher824711 ай бұрын
Okay so why is Aphelios lower than Ezreal in ranking? Like his kit is waaayyy harder than Ezreal. Like Ezreal is landing skillshots but have you seen like the 200 years worlds? Like everyone was saying it would take 200 years to understand Aphelios. So he should have his own class over the expert tier. Also to be good with Aphelios it takes more skill than to be good with Hwei.
@Aschuff229 ай бұрын
First off, you completely misunderstood the 200 years meme. It had absolutely nothing to do with how long it would take to understand him, the joke was that riot made a video saying they had a combined 200 years of developing and balancing experience, and then aphelios came out and was one of the most broken things ever released. That was the entire joke. 2nd off, it really comes down to the player, but the reason you could have ezreal higher than aphel is because almost 100% of his damage comes from hitting skillshots constantly, like more than any other champ in the game. And I think some people forget that when you get past gold elo, people know how to sidestep abilities. Plus mechanically, aphelios is extremely easy to pull off, he’s just much more about champion specific knowledge. At the end of the day, some people find it harder to know how to use and manage a bunch of weapons efficiently, and some people find it harder to land 50 skill shots in 1 fight
@0neleft69 Жыл бұрын
hwei is def not expert tier. ppl saying using 10 abilities is way harder than 4 have like 2 fingers on both hands. the only "hard" decision on him is "to play defensively with WW or aggressively with WE" (in reality you just WEEQRQQ one target or the same with QEEE on crowd, woah big brain goes brrr)
@doriangray8032 Жыл бұрын
9+R abilities but when comes all to it's just QE WE EE (3+R) no point risking QQ in lane just QE Rumble R on low CD
@gabrielschumacher3625 Жыл бұрын
What’s your thoughts on twisted fast?
@gigaknight9485 Жыл бұрын
I think Zeri and Aphelios need to be placed next to Ezreal and Kalista. They aren't easy even for the first 25-50 games.
@Bruschetta602 Жыл бұрын
You can master them in 25 game even less, they have some particular spell but they are not that hard
@skyflakes145 Жыл бұрын
Yea ive playing zeri for some games, it took me 10~ games to finally understand the champ
@madeinheaven12348 ай бұрын
for anyone yall gotta notice in higher elo everything needs skill its just the time u gotta spend on a champ to perfectly play it!
@66.6howl Жыл бұрын
I would switch Rengar with Elise. Her mechanics are really not that hard, meanwhile as Rengar you have to pay a lot of attention to optimize his micro and a ton of games til you start clearing and fighting just as effectively as an easy-medium jungler
@dr00skee47 Жыл бұрын
Soraka is absolutely medium at minimum. If you just sit back and heal you’ll run yourself out of HP. You need to be getting Qs and your E takes a good anoint of game knowledge to use it for peel effectively
@giovanifelix-ruiz52604 ай бұрын
Im sorry no she’s easy lol. Yeah you run out of HP but two items in and you’re good. She’s easy
@gorm3-8878 ай бұрын
Having yasuo top not expert is crazy margins for error is probably the lowest of them all.
@inferno141428 ай бұрын
"Ezreal and jhin are very skillshot reliant" - excuse me, what about zeri XD
@do0mageddon-j8l8 ай бұрын
Isn't hard to auto and spam Q my dude lol.
@blitzer75787 ай бұрын
But kiting is hard
@motivatedvergil9145 Жыл бұрын
I'd argue viego is much harder since you need to know at least the basics of each champion in the game to make the most out of his passive.
@seedem7861 Жыл бұрын
Nah, Viego is very overloaded, and even with no understand of his passive, you'll still do better than you would with most other junglers.
@arturdemedeiros413119 күн бұрын
Kayn not being in easy is insane
@deirasjankauskas3381Ай бұрын
Kled is probably the probably the hardest champ since you need to calculate damage so much to demount correctly and be in a good situation to dismount. Since dismounted Kled can never increase his max health and if you increase your health max health damage just kills you even harder. If u have lets say 5k hp and dismount at level 18 u only need to get hit with 30% max hp to insta die at 10k 15% meaning you are loterally losing dismounted Kled tankiness by getting more health. Jinx R. Jhin 4th shots, garen, urgot and any missing health damage kills dismounted kled harder when he has more health from items it.might be possibly be better to never get any bonus hp from champs with max healthn or percent missing health ults or abilities
@werewolf74 Жыл бұрын
I find Sivir harder to play than Vayne. The only issue I have with Vayne is her Ult. It can be hard to know when you use, and balance when you use Tumble to vanish ... also getting used to her auto attack turning off after you vanish. Heck I even find Ezreal easier. I also find Nami and Lux support (who no one plays for some reason) Blitz is not that hard people just think the ONLY way top go in is a hook. You can dash in and pop them up, get them running for an easier hook. Taric is also not hard, the problem with Taric is, your own team has no idea how you work.
@BadAtNami Жыл бұрын
Agree, Nami isn't that difficult it's just that generally she's weak in meta so you can get better results with less effort on other enchanters. Bubble is the only "hard" part of Nami, but it depends on enemy skill and once you recognise that it should only be used as follow up CC against targets that have significantly impaired movement it's much easier to land. Especially so since whenever Nami gets in to a decent state it's as an E bot, and nothing is uniquely hard about having decent support positioning and pressing one button on a carry. She's not Yuumi/Soraka easy, but definitely a medium tier champ.
@2prominent Жыл бұрын
if you think ezreal is easier to perform on than sivir you have a rod piercing the frontal lobe
@jadenanjara Жыл бұрын
As a 2.5M Vayne player (Diamond) I’d say Ezreal isn’t easier. Sivir is hella easy basic kite and then just use Q and W to shove and poke, repeat. For Vayne, having a good use of the invisibility is something I only mastered recently, the AA cancel on invisibility only messed me up like 10 times at most in all history. Ezreal has such a complex DPS output, every Q needs to land and weaving the AAs in between and always making sure to keep an eye on your CDs to send them the second they’re off (I mean at some point it’s just instinctive) is harder than Vayne without a doubt
@hugocoolerkanalsmal3172 Жыл бұрын
As an Elise/Nidalee twotrick who also can play Lee sin, Elise is by far the easiest out of those, and Nidalee should be in a completely own tier. She is arguably the most elo deflating champion in the game
@adambartone9193 Жыл бұрын
I think elise has the lowest skill floor, but her skill ceiling is still pretty high. Not nearly as high as nidalee though to be fair.
@bakad5458 Жыл бұрын
Lux should be higher, people think she’s easy but once you start getting into the higher ranks it is SO much more difficult to actually hit anything because people know how to dodge her stuff. Combine that with people getting items to counter her, like edge of night/zhonyas/merc treads etc, and it’s really hard to do anything really.
@theproletariat7983 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I think she isn’t higher bc her kit is still extremely simple, and 99% of what would make a player good with her once people are dodging skill shots and just generally playing better involves general skill, but specific high octane lux mechanics.
@bakad5458 Жыл бұрын
@@theproletariat7983It’s a simple kit but it’s hard to use it correctly. She is essentially useless if you can’t hit anything, and while climbing I have seen A LOT of useless Lux players who cant hit anything. I’ve seen people say she’s a noob friendly champ but I have seen more useless Lux players than good ones, in any rank.
@mister6091 Жыл бұрын
@@bakad5458 shes an easy champs thats why its hard in higher elo. with easy champs like lux and garen you will ofc have a harder time in high elo because of how simple they are. that proves why lux shouldnt be put higher
@criticalrevel Жыл бұрын
Mister thats such bronze reasoning
@mister6091 Жыл бұрын
@@criticalrevel lux has a very low skill ceiling
@thediamondgauntlet88882 ай бұрын
Nahhhh Yasuo is one of the hardest champion to master. It requires ungodly amount of time to perfect his combo and skill
@DreadnThis3 ай бұрын
I didn't realise Ziggs was an ADC, who knew
@vinicastro9292 Жыл бұрын
as a main ww 450k mastery, briar is a much better warwick, she can keep up with enemy, she can do damage, she can heal more, better ult, less bugs
@sirhellsing9 ай бұрын
I don't have as much mastery but I just think Briar is too feast or famine, also you need ur R (which good players can side step). I like Warwick's w better since I can run really fast across the map anyways
@hayden67009 ай бұрын
I disagree with Quinn being easy tier, yes she can impact games very well but she puts her team at a disadvantage comp-wise and you have to employ very specific mechanics for each matchup and have insanely good spacing and kiting
@aatogamer1 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who ranks aphelios difficulty correctly
@diffrent-boi2687 ай бұрын
I personally expected rammus support to be ranked, but appereantly no. Rammus support has become so off meta it didnt get ranked in somewhere Twitch, leblanc and sylas is ranked
@MouldyCheesePie Жыл бұрын
Azir isn't that hard. Qiyana should be expert, she's truly awful if you don't have a lot of games. LB, Yas and Yone are horrible without experience too, and Irelia Jayce, probably expert. For bot I'd add Hwei.
@jollygoodgaming2296 Жыл бұрын
yes to everything but yone being hard wihtout experience
@Aschuff229 ай бұрын
@@jollygoodgaming2296yeah as someone who mained yone when he came out, then switched to yas, yone is for sure a lot easier in lane. Outside of lane, he can be pretty tricky cause he’s very squishy and can’t stack q’s easily, but he’s definitely not on the same level as qui yas and them
@knightxstrike-51358 ай бұрын
Aphelios hard Ezreal expert Nice Joke Next Time put yuumi in impossible
@Zobuyta10 ай бұрын
as a thresh main and a shaco support enjoyer I agree
@harrycrime8836 Жыл бұрын
Kayle is NOT an easy tier game champion because while she's not the most mechanical, she's one of the most micro demanding champion and you cannot play her reliably without knowing her matchups. I would rather someone first time a riven in my game than a Kayle tbh
@YACO898 ай бұрын
Jayce top: Expert Jayce mid: Hard 🤔🤔
@michals1108 Жыл бұрын
Hi there could you add names not just icons as I have no clue which is which . Playing lol from time to time along with other games so not an expert
@TheRotundRodent3 ай бұрын
I feel like some of the mid lane difficulty’s are just… wrong? Maybe I’m just weird, but I feel like hwei should be in medium, and Orianna should be in hard? I mainly play hwei, ori, and viktor, and I’ve always felt like viktor and hwei were both about medium difficulty and orianna was like high medium/low hard.
@RelaunchAfter30Ай бұрын
Kayle might have a simple kit, but I would never want to see someone playing Kayle for the first time in my game. I would say she is expert tier because of how patient and careful you have to play before level 11
@kakarottuzumaki4346 Жыл бұрын
3:52 Min.: Vi is here missing. She is realy easy. Her ganks be basicly: Press R. And her clear is stup!dly fast plus she gets because her passiv realy healthy out of it ^^