Ranking EVERY Karate Kid/Cobra Kai Fighter || The DEFINITIVE Tier List (2023)

If you disagree with my takes feel free to come debate me or leave a comment below.
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[@jadonpollard5537]

“Hawk doesn’t show any feats that make him deserving of being above Tory in season 3” Are we forgetting that this man nearly beat a guy to death and broke Dimitri’s arm? Not to mention that when he switches sides in the house fight, the tide shifts because he is the power move that you play to put things back in your favor. The guy was literally carrying cobra Kai on his back in season 3….

[@Jhogoat44]

What resistance spells does Brucks have?Tory with a kick was able to knock Robby down,being relative to Sam S3 since she still fought on equal terms against her while Hawk with Rickenberg help couldn't handle it+Tory in her S2 version already unmascked this feat of breaking the arm because this is Technique that does not require Strength but Rather skill

[@stuartaguimun6666]

Nah quit yapping bud hawks better tbh​@@Jhogoat44

[@Jeezweez56Junior]

@@Jhogoat44by the end of cobra Kai season 3 hawk should be above s3 Tory as he landed a hit on s4 Robby in the tournament which s3 Tory was unable to do

[@Jhogoat44]

​@@Jeezweez56JuniorHawk S4≠Hawk S3+Robby S3 ep 10≠Robby S2

[@Jeezweez56Junior]

@@Jhogoat44 ik

[@jayden-se8di]

Saying Kenny season 4 is stronger then a well trained season 3 hawk is unanswered

[@GattsuOfficial]

Never let this guy cook again, bro burnt down the whole fucking kitchen

[@idrinkfood9761]

Fr💀

[@jamieclements7293]

Ong😂

[@bell5248]

he did great until S tier

[@GattsuOfficial]

@bell5248 Stating that the cobra kai cast is 10x above the KK Characters is idiotic, I'm not a diehard Stan for the original trilogy, but it's stupid when you just say that the entire original cobras are fodder, I will say that the Cobra Kai cast /IS/ definitely stronger, but that's because there's more scenes and more ability to do scaling.

[@bell5248]

@@GattsuOfficial they are robby in season 1 is stated to be above daniel in kk2 and they get massively better

[@jd.gsus.]

I never understood why they nerf Sam so much. Sam is the only kid that has trained with her dad her whole life and was already a top tier fighter since day 1 of the show. I find it insane how quickly Tori caught up.

[@JonasRosado]

Tori already had previous fighting experience and it's clear that she has motivation which is something that Sam doesn't/hasn't have/had and that does definitely make a difference. Also some people are just like that. Edit: Sam at the time of s1 also has not fought for a few years at least

[@Sono_zeraiah]

Tory was never on sams level until s4. Every other fight they had where they were fighting on equal grounds is when Sam has a heavy mental nerf

[@starwarsgaming8767]

Tory had fighting experience before and Sam quit when she was 8-9

[@69ner]

68

[@ashunifallstevity8323]

She took an 8 year break

[@lankychild3346]

Always get frustrated when people talk about Shawn being stronger than S2 Robby 1 on 1 cause he beat him in their first fight but they ignore that he got jumped. Good to see someone picking up on that. Good video.

[@julianmoney9956]

Never let bro cook again

[@robtheservantof6257]

😭😭😭😭

[@BaulFoodmanedits]

Fr. When Daniel beat Silver he was tired asf bro

[@bell5248]

again he did good until S tier

[@journaiistic1395]

Finally someone debunks the "eLi OnLy uSEd MiYagi-Do aGAinsT MiGUeL" bullshit

[@user-qs1zs8we7p]

its true

[@kidrichye2.084]

​@@user-qs1zs8we7p ?

[@kidrichye2.084]

​@@user-qs1zs8we7p *Not

[@kidrichye2.084]

@@user-qs1zs8we7p its not

[@Dinetioneditz123]

@@user-qs1zs8we7pit got debunked

[@kyleb7974]

Finally, someone who doesn't care about scaling the background characters, who are literally just stunt doubles.

[@thegamerword.9739]

“Irrelevant because of No mercy amp” is the goofiest thing i’ve ever heard.

[@Sono_zeraiah]

how tf else is he supposed to explain it?

[@jamieclements7293]

Never let bro cook again😭🙏🙏

[@johnnyhammitt4543]

Bro change your fire alarm battery, can't listen to your video without it going off every 30 seconds

[@namaj3122]

Lost me at the “it doesn’t matter if terry was exhausted from fighting chozen. He had a no mercy amp” uhhhh huh? Silver was also trying to kill chozen and terry wasn’t fatigued there. And he still lost to chozen. So how is Daniel above chozen? You contradict yourself and the scaling is off.

[@obey2263]

replace the batteries on yo smoke alarm goofy ah

[@ty.00464]

😭🙏

[@k_wl]

havent even watched it but i know how pissed off im boutta be about how high up kenny gonna be

[@Navi-.]

Bud finally got the thumbnail 😂

[@dumitriuflorentina6137]

RANKING EVERY KARATE KID/COBRA KAI FIGHTER || THE DEFINIVE TIER LIST (2023) 🐍

[@tomwhite7022]

Tier lists like this don’t make any sense

[@gg41451]

Hey don’t worry little kid he’s changed his opinions for the better

[@ccl7983]

I love this scaling , btw could I get your opinion on this team up fight I had in my head : The Karate Kids: KK1 Daniel, S4 Miguel & S4 Robby Vs The Former Karate Bad Boys : KK1 Johnny , Young Mike Barnes & S4 Hawk

[@Goot-him]

Kk1 daniel,miguel s4 and robby s4 win.

[@Dinetioneditz123]

@@Goot-himno

[@Dinetioneditz123]

@@Goot-himMike negs

[@Dinetioneditz123]

@@Goot-himMike negs Daniel idk why you’re even on about that

[@Goot-him]

there is only one strong opponent on hawks team and that's hawk

[@HARIFYXEDITZ]

bro these takes are Fucking hilarious but still your recent edits are really good

[@Sincere392]

Finally someone who knows there facts and isn’t biased

[@target9180]

In teens best fighter(main fighting characters) power scaling Ss- Kwon s6, Robby s6, miguel s6, hawk s6 S- Miguel s5, Robby s5, Sam s6 , Tory s6, Hawk s4, Robby s4, Yoon s6, Sam s5 A- Miguel S4, Tory s5, Shawn s6 , Demetri S6, Sam s4, Kenny s6, Robby s3, Devon s6, Tory S4, Kyler s6, Hawk s3, Kenny S5 , Demetri s5 B- Sam s3, Kyler s5, Miguel s2, Shawn s3, Robby S2, Devon s5, Demetri s4, Miguel S3, Kyler S4, Kenny S4, Tory S3, Sam s2, Chris s4, Mitch S4, Piper S4 C- Hawk s2, Brucks s6, Devon S4, chris s3, Tory s2, Demetri s3, Kyler s3, Mitch s3, Aisha s2, Robby s1, Miguel s1, Mitch s2 D- Chris s2, Demetri s2, Hawk s1,Xander s1, Aisha S1, Anthony s6,Nate s6 ,Sam S1, Bert s6 E-Kyler s1, Brucks s1, Anthony s5, Bert s2, Nate s2, Bert s1

[@HawkieVFX]

But wasn’t S5 Hawk shown to be relative to Robby and Miguel when they sparred against Chozen?

[@Mr70s-80s]

Peak S5 Hawk is way above Kenny silverbullet because of how relative Miguel, Hawk and Robby did against Chozen, Miyagi do hawk is relative to Kyler and Kenny I would also put rage Johnny above pressure point Chozen and rage amped Silver but Daniel is above them all, even prime Kreese and Silver

[@deadmoon8507]

I don't think Daniel would be above prime Kreese and Silver

[@DAVIDJACK-62]

@@deadmoon8507he will be above prime silver but not above prime kreese imo

[@Spaaron]

W video but why do people believe Hyan woos statement means terry can beat all the fist at once, terry still out scales Johnny but idk why that’s the interpretation

[@tigerclaw9754]

FR! Everyone twisting that statement like a pretzel. At best hyan woo implies that silver would beat them in 1v1’s

[@iludhuka1211]

Kenny and Kyler should not be above the main characters of S4 or S3 but maybe scales similar to S2

[@xopokery]

do you have any proof of this? because based off literal feats kenny and kyler both scale above every s4 and s3 character

[@iludhuka1211]

@ pokeryy the only good feat Kenny has is the silver bullet other than that his base self is better than his s4 self ofc but not that much of a buff also u can clearly tell they nerfed Hawk and Robby cuz plot is guaranteed to have something to do with it and the S3 and S4 characters actually have strong feats unlike S5 Kyler cuz he didn’t improve much from S4 and barely shows any skill. There’s a reason why they made cobra kai seem like a threat to Miyagi Fang cuz they had ass fighters other than Tory who was defecting also Kenny and Devon who aren’t rlly ass but not that good compared to the main characters from S3 and on

[@xopokery]

@iludhuka1211 everything u said is either blatantly false or literally does not prove how s3 or 4 characters scale above kenny or kyler. do u want to add me on discord and debate this?

[@abdullahkun9787]

​@@xopokery bro the writers favour Miguel they sould make Robby or Hawk better next season

[@CloxxyCobraKai]

@@xopokery I think Kenny does but idk about Kyler even though he head-slammed hawk

[@CoachingbyCade]

Wow, I like your tier list. You give good arguments for and against. I like that you put S5 Daniel at the top. Everyone always says Jonny rage amp is better than S5 balanced Daniel but I genuinely thought Daniel was the goat of the season beating terry and it’s nice to have validation on that thought 💪🏼

[@hakaidagoat]

I have never agreed with a person more

[@Red.SkullYT]

Hawk was only using Myiagi Do against Kyler in the finale. Hawk has shown that he could do his best with just Miyagi Do with his fight against Kyler and the other two background characters and when he told Miguel that he is not holding back in the All Valley. Hawk went all out with the defense that he knew without using both styles so he could have killed Kyler if he wanted to and Hawk is even with Miguel and Robby especially since they did not train after the all valley so they would have stayed the same and Robby even said that Hawk beat him fair and square. Hawk should be in front of Sam and Tory and if you put him below Robby that's fine but he is at least in the top 3. Hawk getting beaten by Kenny while only using Miyagi Do only shows that Kenny is Better than Kyler since Kyler was so called even with Hawk while he used only defense.

[@xopokery]

saying hawk only used miyagi do against kyler is headcanon you could literally never prove that💀 also they do train after the all valley and robby, miguel, sam and tory are all better. if u want to debate me u can add me on discord

[@angryhyperski6176]

​@@xopokerydimitri states that hawk was going all in on miyagi do in the tattoo scene did you not watch the show

[@xopokery]

i said that it doesn’t prove he only used miyagi do vs kyler can u read? ur using a throwaway statement from episode 3 to scale him in episode 10

[@angryhyperski6176]

@@xopokery a statement that remains consistant with hawk wearing all miyagi do colors and not striking first at all

[@xopokery]

@angryhyperski6176 u don’t have to strike first to be using ef or ck that’s a dumb argument

[@prodigypixel7103]

W no complaints you’ve been saying what I’ve been trying to explain to the comment section warriors for months 💀

[@FlyHenryFly]

underrating mike barnes. yes, skill > ap, but mike's feat of breaking bricks is literally more than double that of anyone in the CK show other than tory. and also saying mike has no skill is stupid when he was a national champion, one of the best in the world. (if you think he can be a national champion with no skill idk what to tell you)

[@tejasiyer1923]

S3 Robby does not train or improve. Do you not remember his conversation w Kreese and how in his second fight w Shawn he stopped relying on Miyagi do and started striking first?

[@duces4185]

Heavily agree, I hate when people overrate people like Hawk because he’s their favorite character but underrate Sam because she’s annoying, when in reality personality ≠ skill level

[@AugustTulinius]

You have a lot of good reasonings in this vid, but you sometimes pul random shit to make your vid make more sense. The entire baseline and criteris in this vid is skill right? Then why do you say kk3 terrie is above terrie in s5? Skill in this Universe is everything, therfore chozen should scale above everybody else. Chozen never stopped training. The only reason for his nerf is plotarmor. Also miguel in the end of s3 is way weaker than him pre injury. Also Mike barnes is a 10th degree blackbelt. Just think about that. The entire universe gets ruined when you try to rank/scale feats. Yes Miguel trained in S3 but does make him stronger than him pre injury, NO. It litterally make no sense!

[@DAVIDJACK-62]

He changed his mind now s5 terry is above kk3 silver now for him

[@HawkieVFX]

Not saying you are wrong. But if what you said about them considering Hawk for the Sekai Takai only for his All Valley status, that is just a really dumb move. Does status matter? Better to just send the best fighter, which is Miguel. Since Robby will hold back against Kenny even more than Hawk.

[@fifaboieditz]

The only reason why Johnny says that miguel has the (potential) to be better than he (ever) was is because peak kk1 is not his strongest version as proven in the fight with kreese which is literally like 2 days before he says that to miguel kreese says "I taught you everything you know" but johnny is still able to land hits on him and in the S5 fight between miguel and robby at first he says "is that all you got" Well I think if you take these scenarios with context I'm pretty sure you can make out that johnny probably trained in his 20's or just picked up some new moves and that version could be relative to S4 miguel

[@Goot-him]

We never seen it never heard of it and if that was true we have no proof

[@ezanamelekot6796]

Kresse is very old and he is way out of his prime in plus if you notcied Kresse was holding back everytime the have fought because he didn't really wanted to hurt him.

[@Goot-him]

@@ezanamelekot6796 except season 3 ep10 when he tried to KILL him.

[@fifaboieditz]

@@Goot-him but johnny was destroying him before that

[@Goot-him]

@@fifaboieditz I'm not dumb he said kreese never went all out.

[@rodneyrosenberg9435]

Haven’t watched the video yet but here’s my list. I’ve had this for a long time and haven’t changed it for a while. I’m 100% confident about it. Miyagiverse Characters ranked at their best: 1. Mr Miyagi (The Next Karate Kid) 2. Kim Sun Yung (Season 5 - Flashback) 3. John Kreese (Karate Kid 1) 4. Terry Silver (Karate Kid 3) 5. Daniel Larusso (Season 5) 6. Chozen Toguchi (Season 5) 7. Johnny Lawrence (Season 5) 8. Mike Barnes (Season 5) 9. Kim Da Eun (Season 5) 10. Sato Toguchi (Season 5) 11. Hyan Woo (Season 5) 12. Min-Jun (Season 5) 13. Vicario (Season 5) 14. Suk-Chin (Season 5) 15. Vincentte (MMA Fighter - Season 5) 16. Odell (Season 5) 17. Captain Turner (Season 3 Flashback) 18. Colonel Dugan (The Next Karate Kid) 19. Morozov (Season 5) 20. Miguel Diaz (Season 5) 21. Robby Keene (Season 5) 22. Hawk (Season 5) 23. Sam Larusso (Season 5) 24. Tory Nicoles (Season 5) 25. Kenny Payne (Season 5) 26. Demetri (Season 5) 27. Devon Lee (Season 5) 28. Julie Pierce (The Next Karate Kid) 29. Ned (The Next Karate Kid) 30. Piper (Season 4) 31. Chris (Season 5) 32. Shawn Payne (Season 3) 33. Mitch (Season 5) 34. Stingray (Season 5) 35. Doug Rickenberger (Season 3) 36. Steven (Season 3) 37. Paul (Season 3) 38. Bobby Brown (Karate Kid 1) 39. Dutch (Karate Kid 1) 40. Tommy (Karate Kid 1) 41. Jimmy (Karate Kid 1) 42. Mikey (Season 3) 43. Aisha (Season 2) 44. Xander Stone (Season 1) 45. Daryl Vidal (Karate Kid 1) 46. Bert (Season 5) 47. Nate (Season 5) 48. Dennis (Karate Kid 3) 49. Trey (Season 3) 50. Cruz (Season 3) 51. Sarah (Season 3) ----------- (Uncertain Order) 51. Jimmy Robertson (Karate Kid 1) 52. Eddie (Karate Kid 1) 53. Don (Karate Kid 1) 54. Alan (Karate Kid 1) 55. Peter (Karate Kid 1) ------------ 56. Brucks (Season 3) 57. Snake (Karate Kid 3)

[@fifaboieditz]

Mr Miyagi was imo strongest in kk1 because his moves in The next karate kid are a bit sloppy compared to him in kk1 or 2 or 3 he catches an arrow but he could do that in the other movies too and kreese is strongest in kk3,also who is vicario?

[@rodneyrosenberg9435]

@@fifaboieditz Firstly, Mr Miyagi being sloppy is just based on the actor, Pat Morita. His fight in KK1 was a stunt double, and there’s nothing to suggest that he got worse after that movie as he had more feats. You can only say a character got worse if they mention it themselves, or if they struggle, which Miyagi doesn’t. Secondly, you can’t create assumptions. You have to see it to believe it, so to say that he would’ve caught the arrow in the previous films is just an assumption, you need evidence. Thirdly, Kreese is stronger in KK1 cos he never trained in KK3 nor the events building up to it. He lost all his students and struggled to pay bills then he went to Tahiti. Lastly, Vicario was one of ‘The Fist’ Senseis (Sensei Kim’s Senseis). I meant to replace him with Morozov (another sensei) so I’ll have to change it.

[@jacobtove6763]

​@@rodneyrosenberg9435How do you rate the Fist? Using feats?

[@rodneyrosenberg9435]

@@jacobtove6763 The fight against Johnny and Chozen at the end

[@ezanamelekot6796]

@@rodneyrosenberg9435 What about Miyagi's father and Shimbo sensei?

[@timi2435]

Season 3 Robby is 1000% above season 3 Sam, he beat Tory far more convincingly, Tory was able to block some blows and show reactionary feats to sam, where as she was negged by Robby who had already fought his way through the cobra Kai dojo

[@xopokery]

robby never attacked tory. sam used a more offensive approach while robby defended and countered. sam also was never hit by tory once so their defense is most likely on the same level

[@timi2435]

@@xopokery lol cope

[@xopokery]

@@timi2435 “cope” so u have no other argument💀

[@timi2435]

@@xopokeryn the dojo when Robby was teaching miyagi do, he negged Tory with 2 offensive moves, so Tory is fodder for him and easier for him to beat than Sam would be able to regardless of using defense or offense, So I’m a leave you to keep simping over the fat thot Robby > Sam forever

[@xopokery]

@@timi2435 he didn’t neg tory lmao she was still perfectly fine and got right back up💀 and lands a hit on him

[@hookey2688]

Opened my mind on a few things good list

[@darth_vedant669]

"Low difs Terry". Terry was quite literally fatigued bro had a sword fight with chosen which quite literally TO THE DEATH, plus he is shown drinking before chosen enters the sword room. You can't argue Daniel was the same because Daniel had a drink prior to the limbo being taken over which was prior to Chozen going to silver. You can make the same argument for Daniel in their first fight.

[@gg41451]

Irrelevant he never got stabbed even if u want to say he was tired so was Daniel he had to run a mile without water and he was drunk

[@darth_vedant669]

@@gg41451 Firstly, Daniel literally got picked up by Stingray and was sitting his car right after and was given refreshments so that literally isn't even true lol. Fighting someone to DEATH is way more tiring than running. Legit look at Daniel and look at Terry when they confront each other. Terry is clearly more tired and drained out while Daniel is more in his right sense of thinking. You can't say irrelevant when it's a massive factor that you can visually see.

[@gg41451]

@@darth_vedant669 Again he never got stabbed he only got kicked and Terry also sat in his car on his way to the dojo are u sped? The blood on his Face is Chozens blood as when we see Chozen having him on the ground with the sai next to his face he had no blood on him. And Daniel got attacked by Mike so yeah both had disadvantages but Daniel ended up winning badly so there’s no reason to assume Terry would win.

[@darth_vedant669]

@@gg41451 I never said he got stabbed. Just by using visual inference you can assume that Terry was more tired then Daniel, just compare Terry's performance earlier in the season to when he fought Daniel later. He's clearly nerfed up. You did not just bring up the 2 sec Mike fight that was literally bro taking him out of the car, if you think that's more tiring than having a full on sword fight to the death with Chozen then I know why you think Daniel would win.

[@gg41451]

@@darth_vedant669 visual appearance is literally not him being beat up lmao the blood on his face is from Chozens. Both used energy both sat in a car both fought Daniel low diffed. Him having a “fight to the death” shouldn’t be that tiring when it lasts like 2 minutes and you never get injured only kicked once and hit once with a handle of a sai something that should not affect you hours later.

[@AugustTulinius]

WTF is a no-mercy amp😂 Even if this was a thing, wouldnt he have the same “amp” against Chozen.

[@nathanbrown3794]

i agree, but replace the batteries in ur god dam smoke detector ffs lol

[@AfnaanWIS]

My scaling of the teen fighters: Tory s6>Miguel s6>Robby s6>Sam s6>Miguel s5>Robby s5>Sam s5>Tory s5>Hawk s6>Dimitri s6>Kenny s6>Shawn s6>Kyler s6>Devon s6>Kenny s5>Hawk s5>Devon s5>s5 Dimitri>Miguel s4>Hawk s4>Robby s4>Sam s4>Tory s4>Kenny s4>Devon s4>Kyler s4>Piper s4>Miguel s3>Sam s3>Robby s3>Miguel s2>Robby s2>Sam s2>Shawn s3>Hawk s3>Tory s3>Dimitri s3>Kyler s3>Hawk s2>Tory s2>Dimitri s2>Sam s1>Robby s1>Aisha s2>Miguel s1>Hawk s1>Xander s1>Aisha s1

[@AfnaanWIS]

Also scaling of s1-3 might be controversial

[@OminousAFK]

Tory😂😂😂

[@AfnaanWIS]

@@OminousAFK Bro does not know the new meta.

[@nimerawis]

miguel s2>Sam s3>Robby S3

[@AfnaanWIS]

@@nimerawisI respectfully disagree

[@fiddlybiddly]

You replace the batteries in your smoke detector yet?

[@timi2435]

Rickenberger > Tory, Stiven > Tory, Stiven was injured when he fought Tory, uninjured he negged Paul while fighting hawk at the same time which puts him above Sam and Tory Hawk > Robby > Shawn > Rickenberger > Stiven > Sam > Tory

[@xopokery]

do u wanna debate me on this topic? i’ve seen this scaling before lmao

[@agnikaineverdies7646]

I agree with the scaling Rickenberger is underrated

[@alanchamberlain9902]

Tory slammed Stiven already and Rickenburger is below the girls bro cmon don't be daft.

[@DAVIDJACK-62]

He was not injured he just got a glass slammed to him but then he recovered it and Try to fight tory and get negged rickenberger is fodder he is not above tory

[@jasongotcello]

Chozen beat Terry Silver while Terry Silver was still in a better mental state, while Daniel beat an unbalanced and unhinged Terry Silver

[@iludhuka1211]

Chozen and Mike Barnes always better than Silver also S5 Kenny and Kyler scale to S2 characters I hate when ppl say they’re above S4 characters cuz they ain’t and Kyler mostly shows the same wrestling skills

[@xopokery]

if u watched the video you’d know i went over why the terry who fought daniel was no different from the terry who fought chozen (also if anything he’s literally rage amped)

[@jasongotcello]

@@xopokery here's the thing, when fighting Daniel, you can clearly see how sloppy his movements were, it's because he was not focused the same way he was with Chozen

[@nicholausbell2749]

​@@xopokerythe only reason Chozen got sliced by silver was because his back was turned looking for his friends

[@xopokery]

idk why ur telling me this like i don’t have chozen above silver😭 that also doesn’t change the fact that daniel beats silver easier than chozen did

[@theman0110]

2:20 I believe he was talking about being better than him morally since he was mad about Miguel fighting dirty

[@dreytonbaker7962]

W video people crying over your top tier scaling and insult you cause they can’t debunk it W video 🔥

[@tnt6546]

No offense only half of this video is correct, the rest is horrible

[@xopokery]

if it’s horrible then debate me on it and please prove me wrong lmao

[@tnt6546]

​@@xopokeryToo much texting, ill only debate you in vc

[@xopokery]

i only do vc debates anyway idk who told u i don’t💀

[@xopokery]

@@tnt6546 btw my server is in the pinned comment and my discord is pokery

[@irvinalexanderflores]

The narative that miyagi do only uses counter moves is oñe of the dumbest things ever whencthey literally have punches and kicks and such someone tell me the defence only part of the crane kick? A kick to the face with your hands to the side isnt a counter

[@user-tu9nn5rd8i]

Putting Johnny in F tier is a hate crime

[@Peak_WIS]

Nope this is old as well Miguel S1 is above all kk characters

[@user-tu9nn5rd8i]

@@Peak_WIS you have definitely never watched the kk movies

[@Peak_WIS]

@user-tu9nn5rd8i I have, Robby S1 learned everything Daniel kk3 did and more eg 2 legged kick. And Daniel kk3 is above every other antagonist in the entire trilogy. Making Robby S1 above all kk1-kk3 characters who are all trash. Even Hawk S1 is above them all bc he lasted longer against kata than Mike did.

[@theman0110]

​@Peak_WIS robby couldn't have learned everything all in 1 season that's like saying myagi taught Daniel everything in the first movie

[@theman0110]

​@@Peak_WISbut a kata isn't a fight your talking about the tournaments not any real fights with no rules

[@timi2435]

I don’t see any inconsistencies in the scaling for background characters besides Stiven getting clapped by Tory which isn’t even that much of an inconsistency since Stiven had a vase shattered on his head and was only just getting back to his feet when he fought Tory

[@xopokery]

there’s multiple clips of stiven outperforming hawk in their fight😭 but then the final shot of their fight shows hawk no diffing stiven and toying with him. that’s the definition of incosinstent

[@timi2435]

@@xopokerythat’s just how fights go, In season 5 you saw scenes of Robby outperforming Miguel but at the end of the fight, Miguel just starts pummeling him without Robby being able to do anything, fights can go back and forth It just seems like you’re looking for excuses to not scale background characters because it either debunks your scaling or you’re just lazy

[@xopokery]

@@timi2435 u just compared a fight where miguel is going all out to me saying hawk no diffed stiven while not trying. are u retarded?

[@timi2435]

@@xopokeryhawk no diffing Stiven just proves he’s above him therefore better than the fighters I listed that were below him Plus Sam’s fat

[@xopokery]

@@timi2435 my point is that it’s inconsistent since stiven is shown to be flat out better than hawk up until that final clip

[@starwarsgaming8767]

*Sam breathing hard* she is fatigued. *Terry actually being fatigued* it doesn’t work

[@kyriecarter9836]

S2 Demetri over any version of Daniel is so laughable what a terrible video

[@josh8267]

Shouldn't mike barnes be above the teens because he got hits on adult chozen with his skill and it was the same since he didn't train after kk3 and daniel beats him so daniel and mike kk3> ck kids?

[@Goot-him]

No the kids out skill him still and also mike was enraged and kk3 mike was never really enraged and if he was adult mike just slaps him bc he would get stronger and bigger throughout his life as we see and also Daniel kk3>mikebarnes at both their peaks and daniel won so daniel kk3>base adult mike Barnes in skill btw and miguel s2 slaps bc he has relative skill to robby and season 1 robby is sated to be above kk3 Daniel in skill and miguel s2>robby s1 in skill:proof miguel is relative to robby s2 in skill and also robby s2 should up scale learning the wheel technique in s2 so thi is the chain Scaling for skill everybody at their peak Miguel s5>robby >s4 Miguel>Robby s4> s3 Miguel>s3 robby>s2 peak miguel>s2 enraged robby>s5 pressure points chozen> balance kk3 daniel> s5 enraged mike drunk>s5 base drunk chozen>s5 base Miyagi do+tang soo do choze>base s5 mike>peak kk3 mike Barnes.

[@josh8267]

@@Goot-him that cobra kai guideline isn't true and also it was talking about s2 robby not s1 as we never even seen anybody do kata lmao

[@xopokery]

robby literally used kata in season 1 what are u talking about💀

[@Goot-him]

@@josh8267 so if you think it isn't true so how was it talking about s2 if u believe it wasn't true plz make sense 🤣🤣🤣

[@Goot-him]

@@josh8267 and if you watched the season u would see in season 1 he was training with daniel and they were both using KATA in season 1 so again not making sense then if u type in robby using kata in season 1 it shows u a vid of him using and learning kata with daniel retard.

[@spudo6]

Bro saying kk1 2 3 every fuckin 2 seconds is so jarring

[@KEFD8200]

Everything sounds great except for s4 Miguel being above s4 hawk and Robby

[@Red.SkullYT]

Hawk even said at the tattoo shop that he is a different person when he covered up the reaper with the lotus flower

[@Lankiller100]

The s5 tier ranking is bullshit for me for the teens 1. Miguel 2. Robby 3. Hawk ( when not nerfed by the show and plot) 4. Sam 5. Tory 6. Kenny with the silver bullet was able to beat hawk because of the tournament if you based the tier on a street fight not in a tournament way there is no doubt in my mind that Kenny can't use it especially when hawk goes all out even in the fight against robby he had to charge it because it requires focus that's why people had to distract Robby so he can land it and it is not canon then argue this

[@Lankiller100]

I dare you to argue Kenny vs Hawk

[@crugerr]

Amanda Larusso SSS tier cuz she can beat anthony who can beat miyagi

[@MrFlamer825]

She Slapped up Prime Kreese and Rizzed up Adult Daniel + Was relative to him before Cobra Kai so she scales above Kk3 Daniel and Kk3 Mike Barnes + All the Teens and Adult Mike because he is relative to Tang soo Do + Miyagi-Do Chozen and Chozen S5 > All the Adults because he has the most experience and Slammed Silver Easily and Daniel beat him because he was Tired + Mentally Nerfed + Plot armoured and Terry S5 > Johnny. So Amanda feat wise Beats everyone in Cobra Kai due to her scaling to Kreese in AP and Post Kk3 Daniel in Skill. Sources : Trust me Bro, 100% not a Troll

[@MrFlamer825]

@@godspeededitor And she can use the belt to one shot Miguel.

[@Goot-him]

Toddler Sam low diffs bc she is a kid and if they hit her she will use the Amanda signature attack " I'm calling th cops" and then since she has a restraining order from kreese and since kreese and toddler Sam knows karate that means that she is kreese friend and since they are friends they hangout and since that is true than when they hangout Amanda will get arrested since she is friends with someone who has a friend who has a restraining order. W Scaling so toddler Sam is above.

[@Dead-u4h]

@@Goot-him💀

[@GGj3uj2j3]

W

[@theman0110]

Chozen from kk2 broke stone with a kick and trained the military

[@LovelyEVERYBODYLOVESONIC]

Fun fact: he said kk 276 times

[@starwarsgaming8767]

THANK YOU S4 HAWK ABOVE S4 ROBBY FINALLY

[@cloudy6711]

Plus season 5 hawk was out from a silver bullet. Robby after a silver bullet still holds up blocking strikes from Kenny and 2 fodder

[@Navi-.]

Hawks leg is injured meaning he can’t stand and Robby’s leg is fine are u slow

[@cloudy6711]

@@Navi-. are you slow? robby mainly used hands to block. Plus hawks leg was injured bc he was weak enough to let it get to that point

[@Navi-.]

@@cloudy6711 he’s stated to be mentally nerfed during that fight anyways bud and he stated it was a off guard

[@cloudy6711]

@@Navi-. still doesnt cover for the fact that robby used mainly his hands and also has had biggest mental nerfs with him going against his student

[@Navi-.]

@@cloudy6711 that’s not a mental nerf it’s called holding back and using your hands or doesn’t matter 😂

[@diegoblaksley4219]

That ending made me sub 😈😈

[@bobgog1232]

The Kenny stans are wild

[@theman0110]

4:00 but mike barnes was one of the best in the nation😭

[@user-sh1gy2oe5f]

You forgot to rank season 5 kreese, I guess it’s hard given his feats in season 5 but I guess he’d probably be rusty or just as good as his season 4 self which is hard to rank cause he didn’t fight from what I remember.

[@trxe2793]

Only in 1 real fight w a bunch of prisoners

[@user-sh1gy2oe5f]

@@trxe2793 yeah I know

[@Usernamelol45]

BROS PROMOTING MY SERVER HARD nah fr great commentary and greay vid despite me banging my head i lost in these debates 😭👌

[@alanchamberlain9902]

His video is awful

[@gjjijji]

What F*ck is a “no mercy AMP”?

[@ivancastro365]

Idk what’s going on with cobra Kai. Why was Daniel the guy at the end? Isn’t this Johnnys story?

[@DAVIDJACK-62]

Yeah but he added Daniel clip at the end because he wants to

[@ivancastro365]

@@DAVIDJACK-62 huh?

[@DAVIDJACK-62]

@@ivancastro365What “HUH”?It is his video that’s why he wants to include Daniel’s clip what’s your problem with that?

[@ivancastro365]

@@DAVIDJACK-62 I’m taking about the series. I think it’s a strange choice

[@reylovsk1y]

Hawk season 4 is A tier

[@calebpark665]

Johnny never said Miguel would have beat Hawk in the semi’s your just making shit up

[@xopokery]

@@calebpark665 i said he implied it i never said that he said it

[@jeffkaplan6284]

Scale jackie chan, cheng, and jaden smith too

[@alanchamberlain9902]

Very poor video, guy clearly has a bias, he only started watching the show post S4 btw he wasn’t an original fan.

[@xopokery]

if i was biased i’d have hawk over robby every season, have miguel as the best fighter in the verse, and wouldn’t put daniel over johnny lmao

[@alanchamberlain9902]

@@xopokery that comment just proves your bias but ok

[@xopokery]

@@alanchamberlain9902 how? are u illiterate😭

[@timi2435]

@@xopokerydon’t you have Miguel as the best fighter though

[@timi2435]

@@xopokery bro you literally hate hawk so there’s no point trying to pretend otherwise

[@GoofyEditsYT]

W finally someone who realizes Mike is so overrated. The amount of times I’ve heard “Miguel wouldn’t be able to land a hit on Mike because his AP is superior and he is far too durable” people bring up AP as it’s the most important thing. Skill>Ap

[@Usernamelol45]

Mike is more skilled then Miguel

[@GoofyEditsYT]

Interesting, explain pls

[@Usernamelol45]

@@GoofyEditsYT Mike in S5 who hasn't been training in 30 years can fight relative and land a hit on a S5 Chozen meanwhile we have all the kids in S5 mind u combined who couldn't land a hit on him despite ganging up on him

[@GoofyEditsYT]

Yo fair enough. So you believe Mike kk3> all Miguel’s?

[@Usernamelol45]

@@GoofyEditsYT yessuh

[@Goot-him]

W vid fr

[@MegaBizMan]

List is okay. Shouting down the mic makes me not want to watch anymore your videos. Sort of thing a child does.

[@Dinetioneditz123]

Prove he’s shouting

[@DAVIDJACK-62]

I still agree with this TL

[@Patbenvin0996]

Is it just me or did he say kkk characters at 6:29

[@cobrakaibro685]

S tier: robby s5,Miguel s5,hawk s5 A+ tier: sam s5,tory s5,kyler S5 A tier:shawn,stingray s5,Demetri s5 B+ tier:Kenny s5,Devon s5,rickenberger S3 B tier: Chris s5,xander s1,Edwin s5,aisha S2 C+ tier:big Red,dieter,Paul C tier: mitch E+ tier: nate,bert

[@Dinetioneditz123]

Switch Robby and Miguel

[@nicholausbell2749]

Lemme guess u didnt put KK1 kreese up there because he didn't fight anyone? KK1 kreese is either S or A tier since he is still in his prime also u forgot sato

[@xopokery]

i didn’t put kk1 kreese cuz wtf is the point💀 i already had kk3 kreese there. like there’s literally no point of placing him. and sato literally has no scaling at all and if anything miyagi implies that kk2 daniel is on sato’s level so i don’t care about scaling that fodder

[@nicholausbell2749]

Good point but sato was literally trained the same shit by Miyagis father Miyagi just used it way better then sato and Miyagi only said that to Daniel to make him feel good Sato is around an SS tier he can whoop everyones ass except Miyagi

[@xopokery]

@@nicholausbell2749 u literally can never prove anything about sato because we’ve never seen him fight and we don’t have any statements confirming that he was taught the same things as miyagi or is even on miyagi’s level. your placement for him is headcanon

[@nicholausbell2749]

​@@xopokeryin season 3 it is indicated that sato taught Chozen the whole offensive side of Miyagi do even the pressure points so yea sato did know everything about Miyagi do This is something he's learned for like 40 years plus he never fought in the movie because because he didn't have a beef wit anyone but Miyagi because he felt betrayed of his best friend leaving him so his only beef was with Miyagi till he learned the error in his ways but let's say he did fight Is terry silver beating him nope is John kreese beating him fuckin Nope is anybody not named Miyagi Older Chozen or Season 5 Balanced Daniel beating him TriTriTriple nope

[@xopokery]

once again you haven’t given any reasons for him to scale above any characters. u keep saying he beats these characters but it’s all headcanon. just saying “he taught chozen” doesn’t mean he scales above the characters ur claiming he does

[@sga1ac3]

cats go meow meow

[@felix-rb1oe]

silver is the best fighter

[@JordanWilliams_Link7702]

Dainel solos

[@nopeopleallowed6475]

Bert in ss teir

[@rixenraid5158]

hawk scales way above kenny tory and sam

[@xopokery]

we can debate that

[@DAVIDJACK-62]

18:21 😂😂

[@joeygelander6363]

What does fodder mean?

[@xopokery]

it basically means they’re weak

[@user-sz6wu6rt3r]

Insignificant

[@thekaratekai]

W video

[@DrakoTheArtist]

Slide TL list

[@mlbye6343]

L ,Tory is the best fighter of s5

[@xopokery]

how

[@mlbye6343]

@@xopokery you say her hand doesn’t matter when it does, she doesn’t use it at All and Kim seems to be focused on Tory the entire fight

[@xopokery]

her hand wouldn’t have made a difference regardless. she still wouldn’t be able to land anything on kim 💀 and my point was that the injury doesn’t cause her to regress in skill since she can still use the arm

[@xopokery]

join this server if u wanna debate me lmao: discord.gg/84Jnxxxf (beat me and get 50 dollars😫)

[@LimitWIS]

give me thubmnail credits or i will eat you

[@alanchamberlain9902]

This guy is a liar and will never pay up

[@xopokery]

@@alanchamberlain9902 i’ll pay if u beat me….

[@alanchamberlain9902]

@@xopokeryYou won’t you are a coward , so many people would beat you and you would be out of money very fast 😂😂

[@timi2435]

@@alanchamberlain9902, he will use ratty scaling or make you violate debate rules that nobody will be bothered to read

[@MartnMann]

Theres still time to delete this

[@louiebenson1177]

YES THERE IS!!!

[@gG51515]

What is the point?

[@sportcenter7739]

Never rank again

[@Atomic_am]

W