Ranking EVERY Legendary Pokémon Theme (Tier list)

[@Brassydoots]

Hey guys! Since I'm still getting comments about this, I wanted to clarify a key factor I used when ranking these: removing the in-game context around each theme. If I were to have considered how well each theme was used in the context of all the moments they were used throughout the games, these rankings would obviously look a lot different! For example, the Arceus themes would end up ranking a lot higher, since those moments in-game are usually pretty crazy. However, I didn't want this list to end up being one where I rank how much I like each legendary Pokémon itself/how much I like the games they are in. Rather, I wanted to just focus on the isolated music to rank these against each other as fairly as possible. If you disagree with this approach that's fine, at the end of the day this video and all the others like it on my channel are just meant for fun and entertainment purposes. I am not the end-all-be-all of Pokémon music opinions, so please know these videos shouldn't be taken too seriously. I appreciate everyone checking this one out though, the support on this video has been unreal, and I've got another tier list coming soon so keep an eye out! -Doots :)

[@browncow5210]

Honestly, the crunchy dogs are even better in the context of Crystal when you find them. You see the screen flash and for a split second expect to hear the standard encounter tune for the umpteenth time, but that first note catches you by surprise and kicks you in the teeth. The Arceus theme includes instruments that cannot be conceived by mortal ears.

[@Brassydoots]

Yeah I ranked the crunchy dogs lower solely to appease the zoomers who do not understand the depth and weight of the theme, honestly just had to submit to their will. Honestly a real banger though, glad you appreciate crunchy themes. Also yeah the arceus (arse-ee-us) theme is hard for our mortal ears to comprehend due to extreme skill issues on our parts. Thanks for watching!!

[@kebegee]

imo with that reasoning you could also put the giratina legends theme a bit higher (one or two places higher) cuz that intro with giratina transforming during the fight was just gass

[@browncow5210]

@@kebegee Yeah, the way they pulled that off with the phase transition and the flatline sound was pretty sick.

[@Brassydoots]

@@kebegee yeah contexts for themes would have definitely changed things heavily if I weighted them more. Like, every Arceus theme would jump up multiple spots at that point haha. Giratina moment in Legends arceus is so sick though so I hear ya there

[@josiahkrodel4656]

unironically best giritina theme is oras

[@v4ltzu739]

Lake guardians theme is severely underrated ⚠️❗

[@Brassydoots]

I really do love the theme, one of those songs that gets stuck in your head easily haha.

[@Taexer]

I can relate to the hour on hours trying to catch them but seeing him put it in anything less than Absolute banger makes me want to flip a table. Its under the trash groundon theme. Table flipped

[@Brassydoots]

@@Taexer LOL flip that table back up homie! That was one of many themes that could’ve been argued to be in absolute banger, but you never want to oversaturate your highest tier in a tier list. There were a lot of A-tier themes in this one that I were hard to leave there, but for the sake of the list, it had to be done 😅 appreciate you watching though!!

[@aidankretzschmar6181]

I’ve always said that the Giratina battle theme perfectly captured the idea of fighting a malevolent eldritch entity from outside of time and space

[@Brassydoots]

@@aidankretzschmar6181 yeah in-context the theme is perfect. They nailed it both in sound and atmosphere. Definitely one of the most deserving high ranks on the list.

[@Eroil]

favorite legendary theme, listened to it so many times I like it less now but still like it a lot

[@DARTZZZZZ]

Ultra necrozma where all your dreams go to die first time i faced it i got swept

[@Brassydoots]

I never quite got to that point in the game but the theme is dope enough that I might have to go back and finish it now...

[@melvondrewhite2674]

@@BrassydootsLook Up His Stats/Lore And Abilities , He Is Literally GOD ! 👑

[@DARTZZZZZ]

​@@Brassydootsthere's a reason anime protagonists win with friendship lmao

[@naeshaunedwards7731]

I had felt so hopeless when going against Ultra Necrozma and lost so many times. Literally it took the power of friendship for me to eventually win 😭

[@melvondrewhite2674]

@@naeshaunedwards7731 The Father Of Pokémon !

[@thebrave9971]

One thing that kinda gets lost in this video is something in the themes for Reshiram and Zekrom, there are 3 versions of that theme, with the changes being extremely subtle, there's Kyurem's theme, which you heard, there's Reshiram's theme, which has the sounds of fire as background elements to the song, and Zekrom who has sounds of electricity in the theme of its battle, it is extremely subtle though and doesn't really change the theme, just gives a bit of extra fluff to differentiate them a bit.

[@Brassydoots]

Hey thanks for pointing this out! I had no idea each one had those subtle differences; you're right that it wouldn't have changed their rankings but I do appreciate little details like that in these songs. Always fun getting to learn new things about songs I've listened to so many times, thanks for checking this one out!!

[@naeshaunedwards7731]

It sure if you played PLA, but for the LA version of Giratina’s theme, it’s more like you just have to play it and get to that part. The sheer terror and moment just made that theme terrifying

[@Brassydoots]

Yeah the moment in the game is really great, I love PLA to death. I tried to remove the songs from the spots they’re used in game for the most part, just so I could make the main focus the music itself. Most legends arceus themes would get significant boosts if I took usage context heavily into account haha

[@malgai]

Finally somebody who likes the Phase 1 Eternatus theme! It's overhated imo, I love the alien feeling it gives off, like it's coming from a Pokemon who doesnt come from Earth (or whatever planet Pokemon resides in). I agree it sometimes tries to do too much, but it is a good theme for who it represents

[@Brassydoots]

Yeah I agree! I think the eternatus phase 1 theme should get a little more attention than it does, I like how different it is and, most importantly, how intimidating it is! Was pleasantly surprised by that one, I hardly remembered it from my Sword playthrough years ago haha

[@favna]

1,5 hours later and I still think I should just get an (electric) drum kit some day again and play some of these songs myself. God it would be so epic.

[@Brassydoots]

Modern Pokémon games but I AM THE DRUMS

[@jonathanflanagan1504]

At least we can all agree that ORAS gave MASSIVE glowups to their legendary battle themes.

[@Brassydoots]

They were COOKING with the ORAS soundtrack in general, but those legendary themes really stood out. Can’t get over how good the Deoxys theme is.

[@croatiancowboy]

nah they ruined deoxys theme. i will never forgive gamefreak for taking out the grace note in the beginning lick. it's like half the charm of the song alone

[@Zyvelteas]

36:25 Junichi Masuda has gone on record to claim the Girtaina's theme is his Magnum Opus -- and I can absolutely respect that decision!

[@Brassydoots]

That’s super interesting actually, I didn’t know that! Can definitely understand him having that perspective if that’s true, it’s an all time banger for sure!

[@cheyanne2001]

Im actually so happy you ranked *ALL* the versions of the beast trios themes so highly! Including the GSC version its so good and i can never explain it cos it just scratches your brain lol

[@Brassydoots]

I absolutely LOVE those ones, it really does just scratch my brain in all the right places hahaha. The HG/SS Entei one was a total surprise too, I hadn't heard it before but I love it now!

[@cheyanne2001]

@@Brassydoots I'm actually happy to see someone enjoy HG/SS Entei cos most people kinda troll it for being a slower variation with Bongoes and a lower pitch but it's so good

[@Brassydoots]

@@cheyanne2001 it’s such a cool twist on the theme, almost feels like it leans into those rock elements a bit more which I’m a fan of! Fits that more fiery intensity that entei embodies imo

[@Preppiecube8347]

I am so happy to find out that I’m not the only one who does the music pitch thing with their hands

[@Brassydoots]

It has simply become a natural thing for me at this point LOL. It’s the only way I can really dance while doing these 😅

[@MintyChipArt]

The funny thing is I absolutely adore the mixing of Gen 6 and Gen 7 songs. I love for my music to feel like it wraps around me and envelopes me. But most music outside of Gen 6 and Gen 7 and especially all switch game music feel a bit distant to me. But hey, we all have our own likes and dislikes

[@Brassydoots]

I think that’s totally fair! That’s the beauty of music; one piece of music may not resonate the same between two people and that variation gives us the wide plethora of music we see today. I actually think a lot of Gen 6 and 7 music is great, it’s mostly the drum usage that will drive me crazy more often than not. Even so, sun and moon have some bangers (vast poni canyon is so good), and Gen 6 has some really fun ideas that you get a glimpse of with the legendary theme. If there’s one thing that consistently delivers each new generation, it’s gotta be the soundtrack.

[@lipika2841]

The boots & cats aren't that bothering if you hear the music w/o the headphones🎧 like I do most of the time.

[@Brassydoots]

@@lipika2841 That is a valid point tbh. I've found it kinda depends on which song it is because some still sound cluttered even without headphones on, but there have been a few in the 3D era that not having headphones on does help it feel less repetitive. I think physically playing the game while listening to the themes can also help with that because then your brain has other things to focus on too hahaha

[@Real_Connor]

The fact you put the BW legendarys so low is crazzzzzy. did have a question, what's the tier-list link, you made me so mad I got to make one of my own. All jokes aside nice to see a fellow Seahawks fan!

[@Brassydoots]

Hahahaha YES SEAHAWKS FAN WOOOOO! There have a been a ton of the rankings that people disagree with, kinda comes with the territory I suppose. BW legendary theme isn't a bad song by any means, but feel free to make your own list if you wanna show me how it's done. Here's the link: tiermaker.com/create/legendary-battle-theme-2022-updated-1464194 Appreciate you checking out the video regardless, hope you enjoyed the goofs and gaffs!

[@guitubagrips9719]

Obviously its your opinion but being "samey" I just disagree with. The tempo changes, having different motifs that stay in the background before becoming the main melody and fading back, and at the very least the sounds of the piano breaking and playing some funky chords. Not sure any other ledgendary theme went so hard the instruments broke ​@Brassydoots

[@raiden2901]

Ngl, ill put LA Giratina into S just for that damn guitar at the start

[@Brassydoots]

The guitar at the start really is sick. One of those themes where I really had to nitpick because I was jamming to it regardless haha. Thanks for checking this one out!!

[@dustinbragg1921]

The number of times a Regi _Struggled _*_itself to DEATH_* has made me intimately familiar with the Regi theme. It is also why I always endeavor to catch Regice in a Dive Ball because after my 8th reset on it Struggling itself to death in Sap version as a kid I started the battle by tossing a meme ball with 0 expectation of even getting a single shake. Caught it first turn in a Dive Ball.

[@Brassydoots]

Sometimes the meme ball just wins the lottery and actually works, and it’s so great when it does. I feel like we all have our fair share of horror stories trying to catch legendaries with how low some of those catch rates are LOL

[@naeshaunedwards7731]

If you listen to near the beginning part of Black/White fused Kyurem (the part after the drums), and the beginning of the Galarian Birds theme after that little intro, I’m pretty sure thats the same. It’s cool how they took that little bit from fused Kyurem’s theme and put it into the Galarian bird theme, and changed it to sound different.

[@CFortune_]

"Might be top of A-tier" No. make a new tier above "Absolute Banger", then make another above that, another above that and ANOTHER above that. That is where Ultra Necrozma's theme belongs. You're welcome.

[@Brassydoots]

hahaha love the passion for the theme! Definitely one that caught me off guard with how good it is. Loved a lot of what they did with that one!

[@melvondrewhite2674]

@1:12:52 His Theme Is GODLY & I Completely Disagree With You’re Take On It Not Being A Banger , He Is Also The FATHER OF ALL POKÉMON ! 👑🌟 - Never Forget That . 😉

[@Brassydoots]

Funny thing is, if you disagree with the ranking, just watch a little further on from this point and you may notice a nice change there. 😉 Thanks for watching!!

[@melvondrewhite2674]

@@Brassydoots Long As You Realized You’re Mistake . 👍🏽

[@HoshiHanabi]

Mostly agreed with you on many rankings there (HGSS Ho-Oh theme is so damn good, my top 1 for sure!!!) but the Tapu theme?! Ah come on it's better than C imo LOL. I can understand that you might get "overwhelmed" with all the drums etc but for me this theme feels very different from the usual legendaries with the polynesian flair/inspiration which I liked a lot. Are you planning on ranking the Elite four battle themes?? I would love to see that in the future!

[@Brassydoots]

Hey thanks for watching!! Tapu theme isn't bad by any means, just struggles when up against so many themes that are already so good imo. Theme fits the Tapus well though and certainly isn't unpleasant to listen to, the C tier songs are still pretty nice to listen to for the most part! I plan on doing Elite four battle themes at some point, it's definitely on the list for future ones to cover. In the meantime, I've covered a bunch of themes in previous tier lists if you haven't seen those already, so those might hold ya over until the next one hahaha

[@HoshiHanabi]

That's fair enough! I'm pleased with your answer haha. I'll be sure to watch the other rankings you've made in the mean time!

[@fabihanudrat3971]

I love your energy!

[@Brassydoots]

@@fabihanudrat3971 haha thank you! These themes always get me amped up!

[@HS-mn6jc]

nahhhhh I ain't gonna take slander for the Primals theme in ORAS, the way it subtly A/B mixes in the original GBA soundfont version to mimic how Groudon and Kyogre themselves are reverting back to their ancient, primal forms is fucking peak like yeah overall the theme still doesn't have a whole lot going on but that alone is enough to put this one into at LEAST mid A tier

[@Brassydoots]

I actually do really like how the original soundfont is mixed back in, definitely made for a cool moment when I heard it for the first time. I don't think the theme is bad but when stacked up against an ABSURD amount of banger themes, it's hard to put it too high over the others. Everything B tier and higher is great tbh so don't think of it too much as slander hahaha. Appreciate you checking this out regardless!

[@elenatrout362-k3g]

The nostalgia for gen 2 and 3 legend music is at an all-time high for me. I haven't even played the games! 😂

[@Brassydoots]

@@elenatrout362-k3g those themes are all so good, sometimes just the soundfont for them is enough to feel nostalgic!

[@coughfee1416]

Zekrom & Reshiram and Xerneas &Yvetul (Yavutal) have some cools themes

[@Brassydoots]

@@coughfee1416 they are cool themes! Not my favorites obviously from where they were ranked here, but they’re still pleasant to listen to in-game whenever they come up!

[@miguelsilva7766]

I love the Dialga and Palkia theme so much. It's the theme I think of when someone says "Legendary battle theme". Maybe it's because I have replayed Diamond more than any other Pokémon game, but it sounds so mysterious and majestic but also urgent and threatning, like you're messing with something way higher than you, perfect for the Pokémon in question.

[@Brassydoots]

@@miguelsilva7766 it’s definitely an iconic theme that’s for sure. Always one I enjoyed when I got to that point in the game, very pleasant to listen to!

[@jonathanflanagan1504]

There's only one legendary theme in XY (not counting the mewtwo theme) Because Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde are literally the only legendaries. lol They probably were going to give Zygarde more themes but they weren't allowed to make a Pokemon Z.

[@Brassydoots]

Yeah XY definitely needed that third version. Whenever I play that gen it feels like there could’ve been so much more done with it. At least the one legendary theme we got from it was decent 😅

[@raiden2901]

​@@Brassydoots well well well...

[@Brassydoots]

@@raiden2901 WAIT HAHAHA OH MY GOD

[@GoomyFan137]

How do you not have at the very least 1k subscribers, I am a huge fan of Pokemon music (and Pokemon in general) and this video is really good, I need to watch your oyher videos

[@Brassydoots]

@@GoomyFan137 this is super kind of you to say, thank you so much! Plenty of Pokémon stuff on the channel and plenty more coming up too! 1k is sure to come soon 🙏 I appreciate you checking this one out!

[@PokeshifterPyra]

All of themes still give me chills

[@Brassydoots]

Might’ve been the most fun I’ve had making a tierlist. I’m right there with ya!

[@afhunts]

a little bummed the violin shrieks and slappin bass from the PLA Generic Legendary theme was cut out of the video because that theme goes so hard!

[@Aalligator_facts]

Finally an ho-oh fan, i swear it's so underrated!

[@Brassydoots]

@@Aalligator_facts I love ho-oh so much, and its theme goes crazy! I’ve always loved how intense it is despite not sounding like many of the other big regal legendary themes.

[@Aalligator_facts]

@@Brassydoots it sounds intense and i love how majestic it sounds as well, beffiting of ho-oh and it makes it a theme i always come back listening to

[@jonasv_gamer]

Hell yeah!!!, asked if you wanted to do this and the legend has done it 🎉

[@Brassydoots]

Had this one in the works for quite some time, happy to finally get it out to everyone! Hope you enjoyed!

[@user-qy3bk1uy2l]

your chat was very strange and rude that stream . wish people were normal about others' opinions, especially something so menial as pokemon themes lol. great bgnoise video for working on my project, thanks bro !

[@Brassydoots]

Hahaha thankfully it was all in good fun, my chat likes to stir the pot a bit but it’s never malicious or anything. Sometimes if they know it’s something that’ll end up on KZbin they’ll get a little extra pep to their step ya know? 😅 Glad you enjoyed the video though, appreciate you checking this one out!!

[@neo_b]

some songs didn’t even get the chance to finish looping

[@Brassydoots]

There was a lot I had to cut out so that the video wouldn't end up being like 3 hours long hahaha, I did end up listening through most of them to let them loop and see if anything was different. I've also had people bring this up in the comments before and I've gone back to double check that I heard any subtle differences when they looped, but most of the time it hasn't affected my opinions on the songs enough to move them on the theoretical "revised" list. Appreciate you checking out the video regardless!

[@Sneavile]

I disagree on what you said about the OG Dialga/Palkia theme-- I think the pomp and elegance of the music serves as a stark contrast the what's happening around you in the game, and I think it actually enhances the terror of the encounter. Like this is some ethereal, holy being, not just a particularly strong animal.

[@Brassydoots]

I can definitely appreciate this perspective and I see where you're coming from! In that context it can certainly do a good job of still being intimidating during certain times in the tune, but there are times where it still just sounds a little too happy and hopeful for my tastes. I do really like the theme though, just had to be pretty picky about rankings for the sake of the video not just being all A and S tier rankings hahaha. This theme will always hold a special place in my heart regardless of its ranking here!

[@TopOfAllWorlds]

1:21:32 Bro YOU DID BEAT THE E4. This is litterally between the E4 and champion! It's happy because this plays right before you win the fight and zamazenta and zacian come to fight with you! It fits the situation so well!

[@TopOfAllWorlds]

For the horse theme, I think you just missed the context and point entirely. The song is broken into three parts. The horse by itself, the rider by itself, and the final song is both of those precious themes added together to make something better. I agree it's not the best theme, but the context adds to it a lot in my opinion.

[@Brassydoots]

@@TopOfAllWorlds I was trying really hard during this one to take context out of the equation when I ranked these, otherwise this list would look VERY different haha. There are many themes that fit their situations well, but as standalone legendary themes they aren’t as good imo. Arceus themes are perfect examples of this, where the theme on its own is kinda ass but works well when entirely in context within the game’s story. Wanted to rank based off the music alone, otherwise I’d start to be ranking how much I like each story more than each song ya know? Hope that helps to clarify a bit!

[@Topfloreboss]

Ugh my goats reshiram and zekrom😔

[@Brassydoots]

Such cool legendaries, if only the theme was better 😩

[@RenoDojima]

This tierlist video made me realize that for USUM, I only paid attention to the Ultra Necrozma theme, the Solgaleo/Lunala theme, Guzma's theme and the remixes for the villain team leaders because I remember NOTHING ELSE from the game. Not even the Tapus. Better yet, I don't even remember BATTLING the Tapus. It isn't even intentional. I cannot for the life of me remember any other music from the game.

[@Brassydoots]

That's so interesting! I forgot a lot of themes over time, but I tend to remember the area themes a lot more often than specific battle themes and what not. Whenever I hear them again I can hum along with them, but with area themes I tend to be able to recall them a lot easier without having to hear them again. No idea why that is. I hear ya on the tapus thing though, I'm not sure if I ever battled any of them besides Tapu Koko, even though I think they're all really cool! Appreciate you checking this one out though, hope it was an enjoyable watch!

[@sadraccoonboy]

I think the least expected one for me here was putting solgaleo/lunala above the UB’s I don’t think I would’ve guessed that placement in a million years lol. It’s so hard for me to pick a personal favorite I feel like I’m more of a fan of upbeat ones like loyal three but there’s just so many other good ones to choose from 😭 also major ramanas legendary sounds soooo much like it would be in monster hunter lmao

[@Brassydoots]

Yeah some of my rankings are apparently surprising compared to popular opinions on them but I stand by them hahaha. The only thing I think I'd change at this point would be putting the Pecharunt theme in the bottom of absolute banger tier because I listen to that theme SO much these days, it's so damn good. Appreciate you checking this out though!!

[@sadraccoonboy]

@@Brassydoots oh dude the Pecharunt theme is so fun I love it so much!!! Also of all the rankings I think it was really just that one that surprised me, everything else while it would be different for my personal list the rankings seemed pretty on point. It was a fun video I love watching people rank themes 🕺💃

[@Brassydoots]

@@sadraccoonboy hahaha RIGHT? That theme is so good! Glad you enjoyed it though, I've got another one coming soon!

[@hexi9595]

IMO Gen 7 music is really underrated. UB team is one that is made so that you grow into it the more you listen, Solgaleo and Lunala themes are good, Dusk and Dawn Nekrozma are also good, Both Lusamine themes are insane. The tapu themes are perfect for chaotic guardian dieties, Rainbow Rocket remasters are all awesome, and to top it all off you have the crown jewel that is ultra nekrozma.

[@Brassydoots]

@@hexi9595 I’m glad that soundtrack resonates so much with you! Overall the sun and moon soundtrack is really solid, I think community-wide it’s actually pretty properly rated. I see it get tons of praise everywhere I go online, though maybe there is more criticism out there that I just haven’t seen. The legendary themes from that Gen were a little hit or miss for me personally, but man, that ultra necrozma theme was a game changer for sure. Gets stuck in my head all the time still! Thanks for checking this one out!

[@EliasMorals]

i agree with the BDSP Dialga/Palkia theme. At about 1m 20s into the theme in DPPt, there's like a heavy back and forth between the snare and bass drum. And even at like 1m 30s, while it deviates a bit with some extra hits from either, it still keeps going back and forth with the snare and bass always landing on 1234. but in BDSP, they keep the Hi-Hat THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DANG SONG. And it's nice for the more upbeat sounding parts, it VERY MUCH does not fit that part. And it even continues into the build up part with the claps. The Hi-Hat is just STILL THERE. In the OG for the clapping part, the hihat is absent for the first part, but it comes in for like a funky jive with the first Tom.

[@EliasMorals]

also, the open hi-hat parts become super predictable and they feel overboard at some points

[@Brassydoots]

Totally agree with you here, the amount of drums used in Pokémon during the 6th-8th generations of games was total overkill and hurt my enjoyment of a lot of the songs that came out during that time, even with those games still having all banger soundtracks. You hit the nail on the head with this example, it’s pretty egregious in the BDSP version lol

[@EliasMorals]

​@@Brassydoots Oh yeah, big agree. I think the drums being a bit obnoxious started with like ORAS. Like i'm listening to the XY ones, they're just there in the background, but ORAS is either fine or OVERBOARD. For the two main battle themes in it (wild and trainer), there's like a open hi-hat on every 2 and 4 beat. I do personally think alola got it a bit better, since it does have some fun fills or heavy drum sections (like the trainer theme having a full on hawaii five-0, or misirlou-esque or the ventures-like solo), and it doesn't shove hi-hat into your face every chance it gets. At least that's my take on it Do you think it might be a Modern Remake thing?

[@Brassydoots]

@@EliasMorals I think it’s definitely most common in the modern remakes yes. It was harder to do the drum stuff with older soundfonts so it’s like they go crazy with it in certain remade tracks to try and make it seem fresh and new, but in reality it just ruins the vibe of some of the songs it’s forced into. Even HG/SS had some of this, though I think that soundtrack used the drums MUCH more deliberately and creatively than the remakes that came after.

[@noahpiekaar9806]

Dialga and Palkia theme should definitely be higher - listen to the whole song, it goes stupid half way through!

[@Brassydoots]

Just went back and listened to it again all the way through to make sure I didn't miss anything, and I think in the video I did end up cutting off the song before it did some of the cooler stuff. Can't remember if I finished listening to it all that day or not but regardless, after going back and hearing it all the way through, I think it'd likely stay roughly where it is for me, maybe would move up to a middle of B tier kind of thing. I really like the theme too! It's one that's iconic for me as I played a LOT of gen 4, but there are just SO MANY good themes out there that it has to go up against that make it hard for me to put it too much higher. Appreciate you pointing this out though, I didn't realize that I stopped it short in the moment!

[@Kyle-zz6mx]

I think you missed the base Calyrex theme and accidentally played the final one twice 😅

[@Brassydoots]

@@Kyle-zz6mx yes that definitely happened haha, a few people have pointed that out in the comments since the video’s release. Thanks for trying to keep me on my toes though homie 😂🤝

[@IntertwiningRoses]

I disagree about the Legends: Arceus Giratina one, but that's only cause hearing it in the moment makes it so much better than most songs on this list.

[@Brassydoots]

It is very cool in the moment that's for sure! That game's context adds a lot to the experience of the themes, but when ranking them isolated from the games, the Legends Arceus themes can be a bit hit or miss. If anything it's a testament to how well crafted that game was though, the themes work so well in almost every context within the game! Appreciate you checking this one out regardless!

[@UnimportantAcc]

If anyone tries to tell you its "ar-key-us" get them to put アルセウス in google translate and press the mf speaker button.

[@Brassydoots]

@@UnimportantAcc I’m forever an Arse man, nobody is gonna take that away from me 😤

[@lipika2841]

I found your hand movements while vibing to the music amusing, especially during the Deoxys theme. All the Kanto Legendary are in low D. Just the intense versions of the wild battle theme & I think that's lazy on FrLg's part (Even the Arceus theme is better while playing the game). BUTT the Galarian birds is str8 S tier. It's so fun & I can listen to it over & over. Groudon/Kyorge is simply generically intense & in only C. Fused Kyurem & Lugia does ferocity much better. It's superior in the remakes, while the music is played in their Primal transformation cutscene. Dialga/Palkia is low A. IDK what you've against happier sounding Legendary themes. If you'd swap it with Solgaleo/Lunala, then I'd be way more satisfied by your ranking. The Lake trio is an instant S. I couldn't believe it's that low. PLA Lake trio is trash. There's nthg to it. PLA Giratina is close to being S. It's amazing in the context of the game where u think u defeated Volo's Girantina, but it's not over cuz it turns into its Origin form. & now you've to beat it too. Tho Origin Dialga/Palkia clearly belongs in S. Sinnoh Regis is the 2nd best Regi theme. In fact, I thought it was the best Regi music until I heard the OrAs version of it. Unova legendaries are high A. It could be my Gen5 bias, but I love them. The Tapus is right below Xerneas/Yveltal. Ultra Beasts intro is good & beginning, but then the rest becomes forgettable & it's also a short loop. Still would put in low B like you.

[@Brassydoots]

Wow, a lot to read through here but glad to see you've got some strong opinions about some of these themes! Definitely some valid thoughts on your end, I'm definitely less thrilled about happy sounding legendary themes than you are but that's just a personal preference thing! Might be time for you to make your own tier list and show us all how it's really done hahaha. I appreciate you checking out the video though, and I'm glad you got a quick out of my silly dancing throughout it!

[@lipika2841]

I mean you asked for "tell me all the reasons I'm wrong down below" at the end of the video & I did just that.

[@zukamimotu..2071]

I didn't see you even touch the Calyrex one later on, but I wanted to say you mixed it up. When you originally listened to Calyrex, you listened to the Mounted Theme. And then you listened to the Mounted Theme again, and rated it higher. Calyrex has a completely different theme when you fight him standalone, without the horses!

[@Brassydoots]

HEY! Thanks for pointing this out, you're totally right and that was a mistake on my end. I just gave the standalone Calyrex theme a listen and I'd say it wouldn't change much from where it's currently ranked on the list, though I did vibe to some of the ideas it was going for. Still doesn't hit the intensity of a legendary theme as much as I would prefer, but I do think the theme itself is nice on the ears. As a legendary theme I think it's worse than the final battle version of it, but I think I'd prefer listening to the standalone version more consistently for enjoyment purposes. Thanks again for pointing this out!

[@zukamimotu..2071]

@@Brassydoots Thanks for reviewing it!

[@Wesker1984]

Up until this generation, my faves were Dialga/Palkia, Deoxys and Solgaleo/Lunala, they've all been knocked down a spot by my new absolute favourite, the Ruinous Quartet. Got to disagree with the best games opinion though, I'm 40 years old, been playing since the start. Contrary to most of my age I'm not a genwunner, my favourite generation is gen 5. And Pecharunt is a better version of the Lousy Three lol.

[@Brassydoots]

Oh man the Ruinous Quartet theme is so great, I listen to it all the time! Just a great theme, the Scarlet and Violet soundtrack has so many bangers! Nothing wrong with gen 5 being your fave either! Those are great games with tons of great qualities! Appreciate you checking out the video!

[@fireballofficiall]

I fucking love all the Alola themes I know, I’m biased, SM were my first games, but COME ON, they SLAP

[@Brassydoots]

@@fireballofficiall hahaha I appreciate the passion and honesty at least. I will at least say that the ultra necrozma theme goes stupid hard, that one STILL randomly gets stuck in my head sometimes.

[@raddious]

You didn't listen to all of Dialga and Palkia's theme and missed a major moment of the song every time you listened to them. Also legends Arceus adds completely new sections to the generic legendary battle theme that significantly improves it that you didn't get to :(

[@Brassydoots]

We’ll typically listen to the full thing on the actual stream but I have to edit the reactions down slightly for the video so that way it doesn’t drag on longer than it already does haha. That being said, I likely did miss some specific parts at some point in a few of these, especially ones that don’t change until after they loop a bit, as there were a LOT of themes to get through 😅 appreciate you pointing it out though!

[@omegaaklx303]

Don't ever let this man cook.

[@Brassydoots]

I’ll have you know I cook a very nice shrimp Alfredo, so you may want to take that back

[@davidwilkinson4634]

​@@Brassydoots😂

[@Brassydoots]

@@davidwilkinson4634 LET ME COOK 👏

[@commonbridge4735]

@@Brassydoots Old comment but I fucking love this reply lol

[@Brassydoots]

@@commonbridge4735 I’m glad people got a kick out of it LOL appreciate you homie

[@edgar8316]

Lake trio original and Deoxys ORAS are my favorite

[@Brassydoots]

Deoxys ORAS goes so hard, it's insane. Lake trio theme also goes crazy, super nostalgic theme for me. Thanks for checking this one out!

[@charcolttheone3492]

The legendary theme from BW feels like iI'm being swept up by a tornado

[@Brassydoots]

Interesting. Always made me feel like I was back in marching band hahaha

[@yuhboidev9457]

reading chat for this video hurts my soul especially with all the shade thrown at hg/ss

[@Brassydoots]

My chat likes to troll me for the things I like quite a bit, I wouldn't pay the on-screen chat too much serious attention hahaha. They know I love HG/SS and most of them do too, at least music-wise. Appreciate you checking out the vid regardless!

[@alt_para]

The koraidon/miraidon theme sounds like it should be in alola

[@Brassydoots]

@@alt_para you know, now that you mention it, I kinda agree haha. It’d fit well there!

[@azzithedemon]

Wdym i can listen to arceus theme all day

[@Brassydoots]

I would potench lose my mind if I had to listen to that all day LMAO

[@azzithedemon]

im just built different, makes good drawing music@@Brassydoots

[@linkkicksu]

Primals theme >>>>>>>>>>>>> regular weather trio theme in ORAS the first time I played it and heard that GBA theme fading in and out it was a transcendent experience for me but maybe that's just my nostalgia bias

[@Brassydoots]

@@linkkicksu I think that’s fair, I do really like the GBA sounds being mixed in as well. It’s super dope hearing it for the first time in-game, it’s mostly just a preference thing upon future relistens. I appreciate you checking this one out though!!

[@Saili_Orig]

Wait the last legends arceus final phase theme was supposed to be like that?? Thought my switch was Tripping.

[@Brassydoots]

It is such a bizarre sounding theme. Super cool in the game but listening to it isolated is uhhhhh, not quite as cool 😅

[@TopOfAllWorlds]

Wtf do you mean, it is very very VERY obvious it's supposed to be like that. How would it glitch to make the song sound like that? That's not how technology works at all

[@monad-1]

You missed the Forces of Natures's theme from Legends Arceus. Also, while I agreed a lot in the beginning, some of the choices and comments you made, especially with the Arceus themes make me genuinely wonder if you get the point. "Experienced, not listened to" yeah, that's how good music works? Finally, could you not hear the bass guitar and different intro in Kyurem's theme? I know others have already pointed out *that* it is different, but I didn't see anyone explain *how* it is different.

[@Brassydoots]

Hey Monad! Thank you for pointing out that I missed a theme, I forgot all about that one in LA! Your point about the Arceus themes has been brought up a lot in the comments, but in short, I took as much of the in-game context away from these themes as much as I could so I could rank them as farily as possible. If I had included the in-game contexts, these rankings would've looked WAY different (Arceus themes would obviously rank much, much higher than they do here). I wanted to try and just compare the music itself and audio experience alone, otherwise I'd be ranking how much I like each legendary/its story/etc more than the music itself. Does that make sense? Hope that helps to clarify! I noticed the slight changes in the Kyurem theme but it wasn't enough to make it stand out much above the other theme, just felt too similar to get any sort of real different ranking. At the end of the day though, it's okay to disagree with anything I say in these! It's meant to just be silly and entertaining, not really supposed to be taken too seriously haha. I am not the end-all-be-all opinion on these themes, so if you like certain ones more or would rank these differently, more power to ya! Appreciate you checking out the video regardless! :)

[@goofygoobers-p4b]

The remix of Reshiram and Zekrom's theme in Super Smash bros for 3DS is much better than the original.

[@Brassydoots]

It's way different, as expected, but I am kinda into it hahahaha. Definitely works better as a smash bros fighting song, would be super out of place in a Pokemon game, at least the crazier parts, but the song overall has WAY more going on that I enjoy. They went off with that one!

[@AdrianCS128]

He did not listen to the Calyrex solo theme right? He listened twice to the Mounted theme (King of Bountiful Harvests) Anyways if he didnt like the mounted theme he probably wouldnt have liked the solo theme haha The Crown Tundra is still really fun tho!

[@Brassydoots]

Yeah somebody else in the comments brought this point up as well, I gave it a listen and gave them my thoughts in the replies, but yeah, not a huge difference maker there for me haha. I've heard the DLC itself is pretty solid though! I'm not a big sword and shield guy gameplay wise, but I might have to give the crown tundra a go sometime.

[@lucasnanami]

Personally, i disagree with the placement of the primal groudon/kyogre theme, i think it's on the same level as the base oras weather trio. i like how it keeps going back to the GBA version (literally reverting to its primal roots) and that buildup at the beginning goes kinda crazy tbh also i actually didnt know there was an un-primal oras arrangement weather trio theme for some reason, i guess i didnt remember it since it's been so long since ive played omega ruby

[@Brassydoots]

Yo Lucas! I appreciate your level headedness here, and I can totally see where you’re coming from. The ORAS theme does do some really cool stuff and looking back I may have underrated it slightly, there are some neat features to it for sure! I also was unaware that there was a separate weather trio theme until I did this video LOL. I only played omega Ruby once all the way through so my memory was a bit fuzzy too 😅

[@jilliangonzales1446]

You’re such a hater for Palkia and Dialga 😭😭 It’s such a triumphant and magnificent theme, like there’s a great amount of splendor and awe in it with just the right amount of “This is beautiful, but they are terrifying gods” and I just love it so much. It feels like I’m having the moment of my life fighting the time and space lords themselves. Like I’d never experience anything like that again, I love it so much

[@Brassydoots]

Honestly, I don’t blame you for feeling that way about the theme, it’s a really cool theme! I might’ve ranked it a tad too low looking back on it, but I probably wouldn’t move it up a ton. I have a soft spot in my heart for it, I LOVE the generation 4 games and that theme is iconic, but when it’s up against allllll of the legendary themes it falls a bit short. That’s more a product of so many legendary themes being INSANELY good more so than the palkia/dialga theme being bad or anything like that. I appreciate you checking out the video though!!

[@Oreca2005]

So no terapagos and pecharunt theme ?

[@Brassydoots]

Hey!! I mentioned terapoagos and Pecharunt on screen later in the video once I got to the gen 9 themes, don't remember the exact time stamp. This was recorded before Pecharunt was available so didn't have a reaction for that one (the theme slaps though)

[@minx6387]

It's sad that you don't enjoy the tapu theme ngl I thought it was so cool

[@Brassydoots]

Hey that's perfectly fine! It's not necessarily bad or anything, there wasn't much on this list that was actually BAD imo, just not enough impact from some of them for what they were supposed to be portraying/emphasizing. In a vacuum, I actually don't mind the Tapu theme, but as a legendary theme stacked up against so many other great themes, it just doesn't do it for me. It's a fun one to listen to casually though imo! Appreciate you checking out this one regardless!

[@JetTheBaron]

Where would you rate Terapogos and Pecharunt?

[@Brassydoots]

Hey! At 1:29:53 in the video I put up my thoughts on the indigo mask themes since this was all recorded before that came out. It's easy to miss though so all good if you did!

[@JetTheBaron]

@@Brassydoots Oh mb

[@rwilks3305]

The time Lugias theme destroyed my whole career💀 Lugia POV:💦🌊🐚 me:dead💀

[@Brassydoots]

Happens to the best of us :(

[@warcherubio3106]

Never usually agree on tier lists but this ones pretty bang on

[@Brassydoots]

@@warcherubio3106 you might be one of the first to comment and not have a major problem with some of the rankings hahaha. I appreciate you checking it out, thank you!!

[@DTOWNRW16]

now gym leaders and champions

[@Brassydoots]

Hey! Have actually already done separate videos on both of those, you can find them on the channel!

[@rikudoublade8206]

I cant agree with lake trio on b but the list is okay

[@Brassydoots]

Yeah that's one I've looked back on and would've bumped it up a bit if I re-did this list. Glad you enjoyed the video though, thanks for checking it out!

[@KeelysMadd]

Hey man. Its me. I know you know who this is man. Good video man.

[@Brassydoots]

WhOMEGALUL even is this guy LULW (but also thanks man)

[@zzeroara9511]

brassy doots, more like brappy toots just kidding, good video

[@Brassydoots]

LOL thank you! Glad you liked it!

[@RandomMarcus92]

GO SEAHAWKS!!!! 😍💚💙

[@SimAbes]

For as bland, and as generic as the Diamond/Pearl/Platinum "general" legendary theme is, I still like it a lot as a guilty pleasure. Just brings back memories of hiding under the bedsheets at 10pm on a school night trying to catch Heatran.

[@Brassydoots]

oh believe me, I definitely understand this sentiment. Had a lot of nights just like that, love those games and memories to death. It's bland, but just like with you does hold a place in my heart.

[@makinyoumad9498]

This dude couldn’t give the fact that he’s a genwunner

[@Brassydoots]

hahaha I put 100's more hours into gens 2-4 growing up than I did gen 1 but go off king

[@makinyoumad9498]

@Brassydoots Oh this made me tear up a genwunner is someone who glazes gen 1-4 or 5 just like you

[@Brassydoots]

@@makinyoumad9498 call me Krispy Kreme then because I'll glaze those all day bb

[@makinyoumad9498]

@@Brassydoots And nobody agrees with your horrible takes

[@runespellbender791]

smh cant believe this was the stream i got permed for not liking the crunchy dogs Kappa

[@Brassydoots]

DESERVED, CRUNCHY THEME SUPREMACY

[@thebluebomberguy1819]

I like this teir list but i have to comment on one thing that i sorely dissagree with, and that's with the enternatus phase 3, i literally cried when i herd this theme for the first time and it may became one of my fav pokemon ost in the entire franchise. But seeing it in low C breaks my heart. Ik u mentoned that u aren't a big fan of happy legendary osts, but come on, can it be at low or hi B at least?

[@Brassydoots]

I appreciate your wording here, I can tell you really like that Eternatus theme! Thankfully, while I may not enjoy it as much as you do, my list isn't the end all be all of rankings haha. I think the song itself is actually fine and pretty pleasant to listen to, I just don't like it specifically as a legendary theme. I'm glad to know that it had a major impact on you though, I've had moments like that with video game music before so I know that moment must've been a big one for ya. Thank you for checking this one out regardless!

[@squirtlestan6498]

Where would rank terapagos

[@Brassydoots]

Hey! At 1:29:53 in the video I put up my thoughts on the indigo mask themes since this was all recorded before that came out. It's easy to miss though so all good if you did!

[@gunslinger9786]

Bro is not cooking

[@Brassydoots]

@@gunslinger9786 nah nah nah let me cook I got this. I make a MEAN pb&j toasted to PERFECTION 😤

[@favna]

BEST VIDEO OF 2024? (Also first)

[@Brassydoots]

I’d hope a tierlist wouldn’t be the best thing I make all year but we’ll see LOL

[@Level7skater]

Didn’t listen far enough into the dialga/palkia theme for the best part, disappointing :(

[@Brassydoots]

Hey Skater, I usually cut down the themes a bit so the videos don't end up getting crazy longer than they already are. I've listened to that theme MANY times all the way through so don't worry, I know what part you're talking about hahaha. Thanks for checking it out!

[@reliczurge]

gen 2 bias is crazy

[@Brassydoots]

Themes were just really good man, even in context against the others they stack up really well. There is a little bias though for sure, kind of the point of the video I suppose LOL

[@Shazam1998]

Arceus themes at the bottom is the biggest L take Ive seen in my entire life. They arent themes youre supposed to listen to on repeat for hours on end. They fit the battle and what youre fighting, and they sound good while doing it.

[@Brassydoots]

Hey Shazam! Totally get where you're coming from, I feel similarly! However, the point of the list was to look at them specifically as musical themes, so while the Arceus themes do a good job of creating atmosphere in the games, they're not musically enjoyable to listen to on their own. These rankings would've been very different if I had been taking their whole in-game contexts into account as well, so I had to try and keep myself from letting that influence them too much. Appreciate you checking out the video regardless (despite the L takes I guess LOL)

[@Shazam1998]

@@Brassydoots That L take line probably sounded more aggressive than I intended it to be, sorry bout that. I guess I get that placement from that viewpoint.

[@Brassydoots]

@@Shazam1998 all good homie! Glad I could better clarify the ranking for ya!

[@TopOfAllWorlds]

Bro just hates gen 4's generic legendary theme. Idk why, I think at least the LA version at least deserved B

[@Brassydoots]

Yeah idk, just never really did it for me. The song never really moves anywhere, sort of just stays on that one idea the whole time, which hey, if that floats your boat that's all good! It still gets the job done in the games but stacked up against the others here, it's just such a high standard to live up to. Just my opinions at the end of the day though, I appreciate you checking this one out! Also yes, I think the Legends Arceus theme maybe deserved a little more love. Not a ton more IMO, but I was slightly too harsh on it in the original ranking.

[@TopOfAllWorlds]

​​@@Brassydoots it might sound like I'm dragging you in this comment section but I agree with a lot of what you say in the video. It's just the odd moments where I completely disagree with you that stand out so much. I don't think song staying on one idea is bad at all as long as the build on it and keep it from getting boring or there's some greater context like different fazes. The thing with some of LA's themes is that they have different fazes and the music changes to add a sense of progression. I feel like due to you probably not listening to that part, most of your LA themes on the list didn't get a fair shake. It's be like only listening to the first part of the gym battles in sword and sheild

[@Brassydoots]

@@TopOfAllWorlds A lot of the different phases didn't make it into the final video due to pacing for video length but I have listened to the different phases for all the songs on here and none of them really moved the needle enough for me to change their rankings much, in my opinion obviously. I talked about this in other replies in the comments section here, but I tried to remove context as much as I could throughout this process so I could focus entirely on the musicality itself. If context were involved these rankings would be WILDLY different hahaha

[@Yanis-choco]

I'm so sad you cut the best part of brillant diamond of the hound legendary theme stop cutting your videos pls 😢

[@Brassydoots]

@@Yanis-choco hey Yanis, as much as I’d love to be able to include the entirety of every theme during these tierlists, I have to cut them down for numerous reasons, one of which being video length. This video would’ve been close to 5 hours long if I hadn’t cut down things as much as I did hahaha. The VOD for this is highlighted on my twitch channel though if you’d like to see it in full, just gotta scroll back a bit to find it on there 😅

[@gustibiri24]

This dude seriously put the stupid frlg themes higher than both the Arceus AND the legendary Legends themes?

[@Brassydoots]

@@gustibiri24 hey! Would highly suggest checking out the pinned comment for my reasoning there. Gives an explanation for why certain themes are lower than you’d think. Just my goofy opinions at the end of the day though so nothing to take too seriously. Thanks for checking it out!

[@aksis2133]

Lugia’s is trash, ngl. It’s just so incredibly messy and it doesn’t even sound good IMO.

[@Brassydoots]

@@aksis2133 I wouldn’t personally go as far as saying it’s trash haha, but I definitely hear ya. Really underwhelming theme compared to ho-oh’s banger of a theme 😅 thanks for checking this one out!!

[@scootermcpeanuts6699]

@@Brassydoots My thoughts on Lugia’s theme is that it’s solid from a music standpoint, but it really doesn’t feel like a battle theme. It sounds way more like something that would play during an intense cutscene if that makes sense.

[@Brassydoots]

@@scootermcpeanuts6699 I can see what you mean and I kind of agree actually haha. It’ll always be wild to me how they came up with such an all time banger for ho-oh but couldn’t do the same for lugia.

[@blasty5935]

as long as you keep this tierlist as only being your opinion we're good cause I'm sorry, but these are some of the worst ratings I've ever seen Edit: also it's so obvious how while rating the third eternatus theme which is easily A tier your brain is like " N-no I can't like this theme it's from a new gen g-gah I'll just have to come up with an excuse, I wouldn't want to admit that a theme from a recent game is REALLY good now would I"

[@Brassydoots]

Hey Blasty! These tier lists are always just my own opinions, I can’t force people to agree with them. If you feel differently that’s fine! The assumption in the second part of your comment is interesting though considering how high I ranked multiple recent themes. Ultra necrozma, ruinous theme, Loyal three and pecharunt were all ranked very high on this. I gave my reasonings in the video for each theme so I won’t re-explain here, but to assume I rank themes based off the game they come from rather than the theme is quite baseless. These are just for entertainment and exposing people to how good Pokémon music can be homie, nothing more. Appreciate you checking out the video!

[@eduardobarranco8605]

dawg what is this tier list 😓

[@Brassydoots]

@@eduardobarranco8605 hey Eduardo, this is a legendary themes tier list!

[@uLtR_Geo]

ARSE e us

[@Brassydoots]

The proper way to say it obv