RANKING Every NHL Teams STARTING GOALIE For The 2024 Season

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OhNyquist

OhNyquist

Күн бұрын

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@olivierpeartnoy
@olivierpeartnoy Жыл бұрын
I know the obvious stats paint Sam Montembeault as pretty bad but I'm telling you he was really good last year. He was a legit above average goalie if you look at Saves Above Expected. Most Habs fans will agree he played a big role in us not finishing last and drafting Bedard hahaha
@Taubogason.40
@Taubogason.40 Жыл бұрын
He had a weird season. Kind of played good against the better teams and robbed them of some wins but not that good against medium or bad teams.
@brandontong759
@brandontong759 Жыл бұрын
Panthers legend
@juliefarrell6688
@juliefarrell6688 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, plus he played the entire second half of his first season in Montreal WITH A BROKEN WRIST THAT NEEDED SURGERY. Like, nobody was expecting that to play out how it did, and when the chips were down, Monty put his team above his individual health, reputation, and stats. Could you IMAGINE how embarrassingly that could have gone without him??? There were simply no goalies to be had at that point in time unless you were shelling out top-tier $$$$ (which the Habs were not doing lol). Poor guy couldn't even get a night off; it felt like every time they'd try and give Primeau the start, he would let in 3-4 goals and get pulled less than halfway through the game! (And FWIW, I -like- Primeau, just don't think he's going to ever really be an NHL level tendy at this point.)
@AwesomeZach
@AwesomeZach Жыл бұрын
You should rank every teams best defenseman next.
@Sniperizbak
@Sniperizbak Жыл бұрын
Or do every teams top 4 dmen
@yaslerfuj
@yaslerfuj Жыл бұрын
Or top rookie
@hazelmendoza6863
@hazelmendoza6863 Жыл бұрын
Slavin better be in the elite category if so
@CatherineRivinius-ty3tr
@CatherineRivinius-ty3tr Жыл бұрын
Pelech and pulock would have to be the Islanders most solid d pair there so underrated in my eyes
@Frosty_47
@Frosty_47 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for who he thinks ottawas best d man is Considering you could say any of 3 guys
@pixelj4877
@pixelj4877 Жыл бұрын
Sam Montembault played with 5 rookie d-men in front of him for different stretches this season. An impossible task. Given this, what he had shown in the past, and what he gave to the habs in 22-23 (and team canada after), I'd say he deserves a better fate. He played lights out all year. It was his breakout season, despite what the numbers might show.
@kingmaxey
@kingmaxey Жыл бұрын
Carter Hart can definitely go up to Good/Great if he can get a good defense ahead of him. Certainly not been easy for him the last few years
@jasoncoladonato1034
@jasoncoladonato1034 Жыл бұрын
The fact he still puts up solid numbers on a terrible team gets him to AT LEAST the great tier. Obviously I’m a Flyers fan lol, but Hart is the real deal. Franchise level goalie. Hands down.
@leafsfanforever2896
@leafsfanforever2896 Жыл бұрын
Hart has been hot and cold last season. It was a tale of two seasons (hot first half, cold second half)
@alessandroscuderi7300
@alessandroscuderi7300 Жыл бұрын
@@leafsfanforever2896 Hes been that way the last 3 seasons now. Starts out hot and falls off in 2nd half. Likely from being asked to stand on his head every night.
@leafsfanforever2896
@leafsfanforever2896 Жыл бұрын
The first of the 3 seasons, he was bad, then went worst goaltender in March, but after the reset he improved until he was shut down due to injury. Brian Elliott started strong, then collapsed down the stretch that year (2020-21). tl;dr John Gibson is not alone when it comes to a bad goaltender on a defensively lacklustre team
@alessandroscuderi7300
@alessandroscuderi7300 Жыл бұрын
@@leafsfanforever2896 Yeah its been impossible to play behind our defense in previous years. Especially pre Torts when we had a million breakdowns a game. Hart would play unreal for awhile but eventually broke down when you have stand on head every game.
@Puckrocker
@Puckrocker Жыл бұрын
While I’m a fan of Otter, and definitely think he’s headed in that direction, i don’t quite consider him elite just yet. I’d def have him on the high end of great though
@cristianpena7917
@cristianpena7917 Жыл бұрын
Nah he is Elite.
@ryanross706
@ryanross706 Жыл бұрын
Demko is better than every goalie in the great tier the only reason he was bad last year is he was badly injured and when he came back from Injury he was lights out.
@SNAK0010
@SNAK0010 Жыл бұрын
What a ridiculous position for him. 😂I'm 1000% sure that fans of each of those markets would take demko over their starters in a heartbeat.
@ryanross706
@ryanross706 Жыл бұрын
@ironlungs10 I know I would I'm a kraken fan and I was hoping he would be available for us to select he is a beast easily one of the most underrated tendys in the league
@farkuso
@farkuso Жыл бұрын
I feel like you should’ve accounted for the teams they play on more. Some guys are being overrated because they play on good teams meanwhile others are underrated because they play on bad teams
@alessandroscuderi7300
@alessandroscuderi7300 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Georgiev, Skinner and Vanecek all going into great tier after 1 year as starter with decent numbers behind great teams is bizarre. Not sure how they remotely deserved that. Then a guy like Keumper with a FAR better track record is in good. I have no problem with Keumper being in good, its just you cant put those guys over him ...
@integratedhealth659
@integratedhealth659 Жыл бұрын
Giorgiev was very good in NY. He’s a very good goalie. Descended to be rated this high imo.
@alessandroscuderi7300
@alessandroscuderi7300 Жыл бұрын
@@integratedhealth659 Georgiev had a .905 and .898 his last 2 years in New York ... He definitely does not deserve to be in the "Very Good".
@barkovisthegoat5822
@barkovisthegoat5822 Жыл бұрын
Bob has been so underrated with Florida. Yeah his first season was underwhelming but last year he was above average in save % and GSAA, the year before 39-7-3 record with a .913%, then his huge run last postseason. The panthers defensive core and overall team defense/pk has been below average every year (even during presidents trophy season). I don’t understand how a rookie skinner, georgiev who’s only been a starter 1 season, and vanecek who has under a .850% in the playoffs the last 3 seasons can be above bob. People only compare bob to his contract and look down on him when he has been sneakily really solid
@lomakinalex
@lomakinalex Жыл бұрын
He’s not underrated, the playoff run saved his career. He’s been extremely underwhelming and the contract does not make it look any better for him. He’s still a pretty good goaltender, but he was expected to be much better.
@aarfran
@aarfran Жыл бұрын
Watching Gibson all season he at least needs to be in the Good tier. He had 3-4 50plus save games last season and faced an insane workload. The fact he kept his numbers where they were I think is incredible playing behind the worst defense in the league.
@philycheesecake65
@philycheesecake65 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Gibson got done dirty by the Ducks. We haven't had any sense of a quality defense in forever and I know how bad it will hurt motivation when you know that no matter how good you are.... your team is just not going to win
@magicjohnson-o4l
@magicjohnson-o4l 9 ай бұрын
Gibson should be in bad he has a losing record
@corruptzy73
@corruptzy73 Жыл бұрын
Having Skinner above Demko is crazy.
@bigtimetimmyjim6486
@bigtimetimmyjim6486 Жыл бұрын
Devils fan here, I would put Vanecek in Good, not Great, his play is very similar to Tristan Jarry. Would not be surprised if Shmid ended up starting quite a few games this season, either.
@Ws98811
@Ws98811 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, while Vitek had good numbers this past regular season the team in front of him was really good.
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
Well....here's the deal. Vitek had a career season yet still stunk in the playoffs as per his usual. Personally, I believe he was massively overplayed down the stretch due to the unavailability of Blackwood & was just cooked. Now take in consideration at NJ will have two 19 year old rookies on the blue line next year in Luke & Nemec. Plus Bahl will be looked upon and a first time regular. Safe to say the D will take a massive step backwards. So while NJ is super stacked offensively...the goaltending & young D is still suspect and will need to steal a few games.
@CalvinBiefeld
@CalvinBiefeld Жыл бұрын
Demko should be Great.
@wharpman
@wharpman Жыл бұрын
There is only 5 elite goalies those are Vasy, Shesterkin, Sorokin, Saros and Hellebuyck.
@Jordan_Fish
@Jordan_Fish Жыл бұрын
I personally would replace Saros with either Ullmark or Oettinger
@Something7348
@Something7348 Жыл бұрын
Agree those are definitely the top 5 best goalies right now
@Puckrocker
@Puckrocker Жыл бұрын
@@Jordan_Fishyeah, replace him with Ullmark, Otter is close, but I wouldn’t put him there just yet
@pipoj5
@pipoj5 Жыл бұрын
​@@Jordan_Fish💀💀💀 Saros is the best goalie in the league
@Jordan_Fish
@Jordan_Fish Жыл бұрын
yeah, thats kinda what I was thinking@@Puckrocker
@dino3965
@dino3965 Жыл бұрын
Stuart Skinner definitely played over his head last season I wouldn't put him any higher than average
@shawnthibodeau189
@shawnthibodeau189 Жыл бұрын
Why do you say that? He’s a rookie, there gonna be a few growing pains when he gets into the NHL and he still ended with a .914. I feel like he’s only gonna get better with more experience
@hellodaddy3370
@hellodaddy3370 Жыл бұрын
Thats criminal putting Adin Hill in good with the offseason he had. Logan Thompson also had a all-star season that makes no sense you'd put him with Hill if he was the starter.
@MrSoul227
@MrSoul227 Жыл бұрын
Skinner = Great & Demko = Good. Not aging too well lol
@trevorconnatser6161
@trevorconnatser6161 Жыл бұрын
The list isn't bad, but saying goaltenders like Stuart Skinner and Samsonov are better then Bobrovsky is utterly criminal
@FelineStorm
@FelineStorm Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for ranking the backup goalies! :)
@DneilB007
@DneilB007 Жыл бұрын
Any time you do a tier ranking and you don’t end up with a bell curve, you should always review your ranking criteria. You’re also sabotaging yourself a little bit with the names of your tiers-the “Good” tier is functionally your average tier, but you named the tier below the middle as your “Average” tier, which messes up your distribution. The fourth tier from the top should be “Poor” or “Below Average” or something like that. If you did that, you could probably move a couple of players from your Average tier to your Good tier, which would help you achieve closer to a bell curve. Also, with your Elite tier, you used two competing criteria-good goalies with excellent numbers and excellent goalies with good numbers. If Ulmark deserves to be on the Elite tier because of his numbers, then Vassy should probably be dropped a tier lower because of his numbers. You’re right about this being a tough thing to work out. Anyway, this should spark a good conversation. Nice job!
@TheMTHSYoshi
@TheMTHSYoshi Жыл бұрын
I love vitek so much. Hope he bounces back to live up to the great tier :)
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
V had a career year. Doubtful he would somehow do better.
@TheMTHSYoshi
@TheMTHSYoshi Жыл бұрын
@@yoholmes273 I'm referring to playoffs but he's only 27. Definitely a bunch of great years ahead of him
@yoholmes273
@yoholmes273 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMTHSYoshi Vitek always stinks in the playoffs
@TheMTHSYoshi
@TheMTHSYoshi Жыл бұрын
@@yoholmes273 I have faith in the vitek
@Enraged.
@Enraged. Жыл бұрын
I understand why you didn’t but I’d put Gibson in great. He is a super good goalie that has a team with some of the worst defence in the entire league. He himself is actually a very good goalie, he makes tons of saves but since he has no team infront of him, he faces too many shots to save. If you look back at when Anaheim was a good team, he was stellar. In 16-17, he had a record of 25-16-9. In those games, he had a GAA of 2.22 which is very good and a sv% of 0.924, which is also very good. He has been a super good goalie his entire career but he’s been stuck behind one of the worst teams in the entire league for a few seasons now.
@sully_99
@sully_99 Жыл бұрын
It's been 5 years since he did that and his advanced stats have also been poor, the team sucks but he himself has also not been good
@ballsincement
@ballsincement Жыл бұрын
they need to trade that poor man
@kkerbawy
@kkerbawy Жыл бұрын
oilers great goalie lmao
@tor2886
@tor2886 Жыл бұрын
Demko should be in the great tier tbh, kind of ridiculous to put him in good.
@user-by3nd4rm6c
@user-by3nd4rm6c Жыл бұрын
I know right? Demko has shown lengthy stretches of excellent play, not just brief supernovas
@Artemis_Gray
@Artemis_Gray Жыл бұрын
As a Canucks fan, I don't begrudge your positioning of Demko in the "good" tier, but that's because it's hard for people outside Vancouver to understand what he goes through. The Canucks have been the worst defensively responsible team since the pandemic year, and Demko has done well to make them look even half respectable. As long as he's healthy, with the Canucks new direction in attention to defensive detail, he'll show what he's worth this season.
@user-by3nd4rm6c
@user-by3nd4rm6c Жыл бұрын
Anaheim has entered the chat, Canucks weren't the worst
@NYIhockey44
@NYIhockey44 Жыл бұрын
Love the vids OhNyquist! Just one thing, I recently played where the Devils were practicing and saw some of the team, by the sounds of, Schmid will get the starting job
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 Жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing. He'll get serious consideration, at least.
@sbechdolt
@sbechdolt Жыл бұрын
Update this list.Oiler goalies are complete disasters.they cannot stop anything
@sammy8796
@sammy8796 Жыл бұрын
A starting goalie tandem would be good as well.
@wass241
@wass241 Жыл бұрын
Ranking every teams best defence Pair
@Prime4867
@Prime4867 Жыл бұрын
Vanacek’s reputation was ruined by the playoffs. He still got 3 shutouts in reg season and first Devils goalie to 30 wins in a season since Brodeur. Not bad at all.
@radim5714
@radim5714 Жыл бұрын
Kinda feels wrong having Gustavsson next to the other goalies in great
@peter8367
@peter8367 Жыл бұрын
I think Talbot will play good behind the Kings defense
@pakkajulmu
@pakkajulmu Жыл бұрын
Have you ranked the best defensive players yet?
@Schmeck88
@Schmeck88 Жыл бұрын
Love the tier list videos bro. You should do ranking each team’s captain, and ranking each team’s first line. Both would be sick!!
@generalimlerith8356
@generalimlerith8356 Жыл бұрын
Your faith in markstrom will be rewarded Nyquist he’s a emotional guy with pride he’s gonna be hungry this year plus no more sutter playing mind games with him should help
@RIPJimmyA7X
@RIPJimmyA7X Жыл бұрын
I'm OK with Georgiev being in great, glad to see him getting respect
@Spetsnazty
@Spetsnazty Жыл бұрын
We need ranked equipment guys.
@bc-tt3ui
@bc-tt3ui Жыл бұрын
Great video! Also sounds like you got a new mic! I could be wrong lol
@HockeyFan102
@HockeyFan102 Жыл бұрын
I already know as a kings fan were a F at goalie! Idk why we didn’t trade for a superstar goalie cause our team would be fantastic!
@Ando2k10
@Ando2k10 Жыл бұрын
The GOOD tier is a good place for Jarry after his inconsistent play, last season. He ended up as the 15th ranked starting goaltender, after being a top five goalie in the previous two seasons. Hopefully, he has a bounce-back year, and returns to form. Head-to-head, against all of the goaltenders in the Elite and Great tiers, over the course of his career, his record is 26-19-5, and only has a losing record against Vanecek, Ullmark, Shesturkin, and Skinner. Hopefully, when you do this ranking, next year, his play has warranted inclusion in the Great tier.
@ilai7893
@ilai7893 Жыл бұрын
Coaches tier rankings next? That or prospect pool?
@Habsfan56744
@Habsfan56744 Жыл бұрын
This is a hot take I hope a goalie will win the hart trophy this season it’d be a nice change for the NHL but with mcdavid in the league idk if that’s possible
@arensaraydarian4648
@arensaraydarian4648 Жыл бұрын
I wanna see SoroKING win it because the Isles wouldn’t even be playoff contenders without him. They can’t score and they’re outshot 50-20 every game. Even with the insane amounts of shots against and the lack of goals to support him, SoroKING has carried this team to relevance. He’s the only reason they made the playoffs this season. Last season, on a team that missed the playoffs, SoroKING was 2nd in the league in SV% and shutouts, and 4th in GAA. He beat out big names like Vasey, Markstrom, and Saros, who were all on playoff teams last season.
@Habsfan56744
@Habsfan56744 Жыл бұрын
@@arensaraydarian4648 indeed
@lomakinalex
@lomakinalex Жыл бұрын
Should’ve had one in 21-22, but goaltenders winning the hart trophy is almost impossible at this point. At least Shesty got a finalist spot, but definitely deserved to win given how much he carried the rangers in that playoff run and season overall.
@steelpenpirate
@steelpenpirate Жыл бұрын
Jarry has a career average of .914 and is good, but Skinner has 1 year at .914 and is great.
@jermainerodgers
@jermainerodgers Жыл бұрын
Hes not a starter but hes better than ullmark. Sway is the way
@dimitu_
@dimitu_ Жыл бұрын
There are some questionable decisions, but every tier list is subjective, so everyone please just take it easier
@quentinm4967
@quentinm4967 Жыл бұрын
I’d easily put Veggie in the good tier. As someone who watches Arizona, he definitely has rough nights, but when he’s on, MY GOD is he unbeatable. I’ve watched him most notoriously stump the leafs, but also steal games from a flames team desperate for points, the kings during their great run to try and win the division, the wings :/ dude can turn it on and absolutely take over games, just not every night
@GoatzelEnjoyer
@GoatzelEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
Elite: Saros, Sorokin, Vasy, Helle, Shesterkin Great: Ullmark, Georgiev, Gus, Samsonov, Kuemper, Oettinger Good: Jarry, Demko, Skinner, Thompson, Markström, Vanecek, Korpisalo, Grubauer, Andersen Average: Husso, Gibson, Bobrovsky, Binnington, Markström, Vejmelka, Hart, Montembeault Bad: Mrazek, Talbot, Blackwood, Merzlikins
@4u2nvHock3y
@4u2nvHock3y Жыл бұрын
Why is Monty bad exactly? And why is Bob the same rank as binnington and below markstrom. This is criminal
@GoatzelEnjoyer
@GoatzelEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
​@@4u2nvHock3yI did a few changes as i looked back at it. You can have your own opinion as well :)
@4u2nvHock3y
@4u2nvHock3y Жыл бұрын
@@GoatzelEnjoyer Lists like these are subjective. So I respect it. I personally would liek to see Hart Bob and Husso in good along with Samsonov. But sorry for thr criticism. Just almost never see Monty get respect outside of Habs fans.
@GoatzelEnjoyer
@GoatzelEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
@@4u2nvHock3y Feels like half of these goalies had their performance level all over the place which makes an actual list outside of the elite 5 really difficult to make
@user-by3nd4rm6c
@user-by3nd4rm6c Жыл бұрын
Demko should be in great, Samsonov, Kuemper, and Georgiev should be in good
@jasonc9061
@jasonc9061 Жыл бұрын
Poor John Gibson. He has had zero help in years. Deserves better than this ranking probably but it's hard to justify until he can play somewhere else and really showcase himself.
@Boredhockeytime1776
@Boredhockeytime1776 Жыл бұрын
Hart posted .907 save percentage and 2.96 gaa on a team with a gaa north of 3.6 he was also top 15 in GSAX. Hart has been very very good on a team with a bottom 5 defense. He had risto, Braun, seeler and a horrid season from sanheim as well. Hart was the only reason the flyers sniffed 30 wins he should honestly be in the great tier I don’t think many goalies would post good numbers behind that flyers team. 20/21 was horrible but he has had two good season since for a awful team
@tizzy4400
@tizzy4400 Жыл бұрын
Ranking every teams fan base or ranking every teams projected starting line are some ideas
@spudlump-uu5kb
@spudlump-uu5kb Жыл бұрын
I would like that
@thegreatbadon8033
@thegreatbadon8033 Жыл бұрын
Since fantasy is coming up this is needed lol
@UNISCRlife
@UNISCRlife Жыл бұрын
How about Ranking the Coach of each team?
@happytrails151
@happytrails151 Жыл бұрын
As an Oiler fan I'd drop Skinner to good, with the Vegas goalies. The playoffs cooled the hype on him a bit
@JACKAL747
@JACKAL747 Жыл бұрын
It was literally his first full NHL season and he's 24. Chill out dude.
@derekweaver6384
@derekweaver6384 Жыл бұрын
Carter Hart was underrated here. I get his numbers looked bad, however the eye test tells you that the reason for that was the Flyers defense constantly left him out to dry. The Flyers dont win most of the games they did win without him
@MrGlovesave33
@MrGlovesave33 Жыл бұрын
Great work by one of my fave haligonian hockey content captains. What are thoughts on our mooseheads this season? Take care bro😊
@HumanAction76
@HumanAction76 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you didn't forget TB this time :) Over all the rankings are spot on. Well done. I would like to see you do a tier list for Coaches.
@levth01sct
@levth01sct Жыл бұрын
I think you did your best and I think you are almost 100% exact in your assessment. Good video.
@MatthewKniesEnjoyer89
@MatthewKniesEnjoyer89 Жыл бұрын
i honestly agree with this list. as a wild fan it blows to play against otter and saros lol
@ksamples149
@ksamples149 Жыл бұрын
Soely looking at numbers ok but i cant help but feel like hart and gibson got a very harsh rating, the teams in front of them have been far from defensively solid.
@reyminhas1489
@reyminhas1489 Жыл бұрын
Bro as a leaf fan I'm gna tell you Montembeault is in "good" and if his team in front wasn't trash he'd be easily in "great"
@NYIhockey44
@NYIhockey44 Жыл бұрын
This may be on of the worst takes I’ve heard in a while. He hasn’t proven anything at all yet
@rt3983
@rt3983 Жыл бұрын
I know this list was made at the start of the season but holy smokes some of these got absolutely flip flopped. Talbot? Montembeault? Binnington? Hill? Would love to see these re-ranked!
@Ok0707
@Ok0707 Жыл бұрын
It's hilarious that people say the Leafs have no goaltending. Like where is that narrative even coming from? it's so confusing. Sammy was legit, that injury messed him up going into the playoffs though. Him and Woll is a real quality tandem with very high upside
@Joshua_Abes
@Joshua_Abes Жыл бұрын
Sorokin is the goat
@barzalaep
@barzalaep Жыл бұрын
Fr
@tomblade
@tomblade Жыл бұрын
Last year's "goat"
@kangatoo8646
@kangatoo8646 Жыл бұрын
Their is no way in hell you can call stewert skinny great with a 900% save percentage
@shawnthibodeau189
@shawnthibodeau189 Жыл бұрын
He put up a .914 as a rookie behind Edmonton’s sometimes shaky defence. Idk, I think it’s justified
@hockeyislife7686
@hockeyislife7686 Жыл бұрын
Montembeault is definitely not bad
@sully_99
@sully_99 Жыл бұрын
I would argue that an .894SV% with a GSAx very close to 0 on that Chicago team deserves average for Mrazek
@KyleMacSkill
@KyleMacSkill Жыл бұрын
He was horrid for a good toronto team last year though so bad is where he belongs
@sully_99
@sully_99 Жыл бұрын
@@KyleMacSkill He was bad but he was also injured, the year before in limited action with Carolina he was amazing, whereas we have Elvis somehow not in bad.
@SkyWalkerGaming11
@SkyWalkerGaming11 Жыл бұрын
Man, europe sure does know how to make elite goalies...... canada needs to have a prime price/holtby level goalie again
@OhNyquist
@OhNyquist Жыл бұрын
You got that right, I’m not even sure who would be the choice in net for Canada in a best on best tournament.
@tomblade
@tomblade Жыл бұрын
Really odd indeed to see that Canada doesn't have any elite goalies. It feels like this never happened before. Not sure what the reasons could be...
@ninchubs
@ninchubs Жыл бұрын
kuemper great, 920+ sx% on a bad coyotes team then in Colorado and a sv% close to 920 when Washington actually tried
@sportfanatic9983
@sportfanatic9983 Жыл бұрын
Probably the most underrated goalie in the league
@leafsfanforever2896
@leafsfanforever2896 Жыл бұрын
If he stayed healthy, he could have won the Vezina in 2019-20
@ShowerOrange
@ShowerOrange Жыл бұрын
Have you done ranking starting line up for each team? Ik lines change a lot but it would be kinda sick¿
@Tdawwg18
@Tdawwg18 Жыл бұрын
Korpisalo is way better than average. Last year he showed what he could do while being healthy. Had really good numbers on a shit columbus team and played really well for the kings.
@mattfromwiisports6209
@mattfromwiisports6209 Жыл бұрын
Having Talbot in bad even tho he played in the all star game a coupon years ago is a hot take
@sens_outlook
@sens_outlook Жыл бұрын
Have you seen him last year though?
@arensaraydarian4648
@arensaraydarian4648 Жыл бұрын
Freddy and Bob definitely deserve more love. Bob was a conn smythe candidate for most of the playoffs and despite having some rough patches, he is a two time Vezina winner and a two time winner against the Presidents’ trophy winners. As for Freddy, if a guy like Alexander Georgiev is ranked as great, I think Andersen definitely deserves to be in the great tier as well.
@DJ33970
@DJ33970 Жыл бұрын
Changes I would make is Montembeault moved up to average, Andersen & Keumper moved up to great, Oettinger moved down to great and Skinner moved down to good
@cristianpena7917
@cristianpena7917 Жыл бұрын
Lol buddy, if Kuemper and Andersen are great then Oettinger belongs in the Elite Category 😂
@brendan8637
@brendan8637 Жыл бұрын
European goalies are built different
@travisbouwkamp8273
@travisbouwkamp8273 Жыл бұрын
You should do some ranking all about the red wings. Current players maybe….?
@thathabsfan1431
@thathabsfan1431 Жыл бұрын
As usual you were consistent and tried to be fair. Agree or disagree you are possibly the best at what you do and you also have the best following (and comments)
@OhNyquist
@OhNyquist Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this!
@grandtheftautoandstuff3744
@grandtheftautoandstuff3744 9 ай бұрын
Honestly Mrázek and Montembeault, talbot have all been present supprises
@justinhockey2625
@justinhockey2625 Жыл бұрын
I think should do top line of each team
@user-by3nd4rm6c
@user-by3nd4rm6c Жыл бұрын
Demko being in any tier lower than great, Vanecek doesn't deserve to be in the great tier, and Oettinger shouldn't be in the elite tier, he hasn't shown an elite level of performance consistently enough to be ranked that high, and Samsonov is only good, not great. This is lunacy, come on man, I thought you were better than this
@d4wgie
@d4wgie Жыл бұрын
I may be a little biased but I feel like husso should be in good. He did decent in front of a pretty bad red wings defense especially after the deadline.
@mrshade5701
@mrshade5701 Жыл бұрын
Any Goalie that Wins over 30 games a year? Is Solid! Good/Elite/Great! And of course? It Depends on the whole team aswell?. But if a Goalie is consistent with 20 plus wins a year? That’s pretty decent for this 100 points a Season 2020’s Era. Vasy had been having 30 win seasons consistently, this is basically a Modern day “Roy” “Hasek” “Brodeur” stats!👍🏼🔥.
@leafsfanforever2896
@leafsfanforever2896 Жыл бұрын
Look at Marc-Andre Fleury 2011-12, for example of a poor goaltender
@kevinleahy3489
@kevinleahy3489 Жыл бұрын
Having Hart in the average category absolutely insane.
@alessandroscuderi7300
@alessandroscuderi7300 Жыл бұрын
Skinner, Georgiev and Vanecek in the Great tier is pretty odd. Not sure how they have earned that tier ...
@lomakinalex
@lomakinalex Жыл бұрын
It’s an interesting arrangement, but like otter, ullmark and saros are in elite tier so I think great has some leakage from the better good goaltenders. I’d personally would only have shesty sorokin and vasy up in elite tier.
@alessandroscuderi7300
@alessandroscuderi7300 Жыл бұрын
@@lomakinalex I agree Oettinger and Ullmark dont deserve elite. Saros definitely does tho. Guys like Oettinger and Ullmark should be making up great. Not guys like Vanecek and Skinner.
@noahquesnelle5429
@noahquesnelle5429 Жыл бұрын
I just can’t fathom skimmer being better than Demko
@timitri8
@timitri8 Жыл бұрын
Its so wierd that you put skinner in good but husso and korpisalo in average😂😂
@SaunaPerkele_5
@SaunaPerkele_5 Жыл бұрын
What weird about that. Skinner is good when compared to both of those players. Husso and Korpi are average goalies at least right now. It might change.
@timitri8
@timitri8 Жыл бұрын
@@SaunaPerkele_5 En yhen hyvän kauden jälkee lähtis kehuu tollee, Husso ei ehk niin vahvoilla oo mutta korpi tietääkseni vieläkin hallitsee pudotuspelien torjunta ennätystä ja pelannu tosi hyvin paskassa joukkueessa. On vaa tosi absurdia koska tolla ajattelutavalla Husson pitäs olla samassa skinnerin kanssa, pelas 1 kauden hyvin ennenku tuli detroittiin. Kaiken lisäks se osaa arvioi 1 kauden osalta mutta muissa menneisyys vaikutti, Skinner oli ihan ruikuli ennen tätä kautta , ja tääkin oli vaan sitä että koko joukkue pelas paremmin tällä kaudella
@cheericoke2484
@cheericoke2484 Жыл бұрын
@@SaunaPerkele_5skinner was terrible in the playoffs, id say directly responsible for them losing
@ibrhq6425
@ibrhq6425 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I agree with the whole list.
@treeguy92smith90
@treeguy92smith90 Жыл бұрын
Top six forward group.
@smithryansmith
@smithryansmith Жыл бұрын
Having more goalies in "elite" than "great" kinda defeats the concept of elite. You never have 7 vezina finalists.
@ninjashep5264
@ninjashep5264 7 ай бұрын
Putting Samsonov as Great, to me shows that you did put A LOT of bias on just 1 season not 3 seasons as a whole Since sure he did have that 1 career year… but never proved to be a starting caliber goalie before that And it showed this season where he’d be put in the BAD Tier
@macrolfing1787
@macrolfing1787 Жыл бұрын
Rank every teams spending?
@AChanceToGame
@AChanceToGame 4 ай бұрын
Am I crazy or is there no swayman on this list?
@havokan45
@havokan45 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Flyers fan with with them adding Petersen who i also hopes plays to . The last couple seasons seasons Hart has been way to many games in a row then getting hurt. My hope with Petersen as the backup they don't play him that many games and just see how does i think this season Hart show only get 50 to 55 games and see how he plays . As a Flyers fan i also know the teams defense isn't up to par . It's a rebuild year anyway can't wait for the season also Couturier & Atkinson are the wil dcards depending how much rust they have
@mako_hd
@mako_hd Жыл бұрын
I like how you put Gustavsson in the good tier on the thumbnail just to clickbait people 😂😂😂
@hockeyislife7686
@hockeyislife7686 Жыл бұрын
Levi is gonna be elite
@danevertt3210
@danevertt3210 Жыл бұрын
The kid is a stud
@leafsfanforever2896
@leafsfanforever2896 Жыл бұрын
I think they rushed him, did they? Perhaps sign a veteran goaltender so Levi can be backup or starter in the minors
@sheldontalkshockey7404
@sheldontalkshockey7404 Жыл бұрын
You should rank every teams center core
@joeybourassa3785
@joeybourassa3785 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos ohnyquist but wow that Sammy montembeault take made me screech although I watch all habs game he was the heart and soul and balled out almost daily when he was in that kid has great heart
@zaccoulter8711
@zaccoulter8711 Жыл бұрын
You should do power play ranks, top 6 ranks or top 4 defence ranks
@yelling3874
@yelling3874 Жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see the backups ranked too. Maybe by team
@bigchillinpodcast
@bigchillinpodcast Жыл бұрын
yessss I have Otter for Yahoo fantasy
@karvakasiedward4002
@karvakasiedward4002 Жыл бұрын
I think you are mixing goals saved above expected with goals saved above avg. For example Skinner wasnt 11th in GSAE. He was 11th starter in GSAA. GSAA is really just adjusted s%. GSAE tells how well goalie himself has played regardless of his team.
@LatinxGoyslop1994
@LatinxGoyslop1994 Жыл бұрын
I think Otter belongs in Great. He's more streaky and up/down than the rest in Elite
@LatinxGoyslop1994
@LatinxGoyslop1994 Жыл бұрын
Ulmark doesn't belong up there either. I would have put him in Good but after last season he belongs in Great
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